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Utah Jazz Losing Culture, Holy War Preview & MLB Salary Cap Drama! Free Agency Starts · DnA Sports Recap

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  SPEAKER_03: My name is Darren.
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  SPEAKER_03: That is AJ.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was just amazing.
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  SPEAKER_03: We we have to ruin a perfectly good opportunity to win this in regulation and and have it go to overtime.
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  SPEAKER_03: Celebrating like we hit a game winner when there's still four minutes left.
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  SPEAKER_03: All right, man.
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  SPEAKER_03: So let's go ahead and get into our first subject, man.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_03: No point in uh waiting on this one.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, we need to talk about uh the Utah Jazz and while we're watching this game and a game they should have henally won uh in regulation, AJ.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, we are now staring down the barrel in overtime uh in New Orleans.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_03: Uh they don't like calling it NOLA.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_03: It's called New Orleans, in case you didn't know.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um that makes sense.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_03: Even though they had uniforms that said NOLA on them.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_03: But anyway, anyway, folks, uh, we wanted to talk about, we kind of hit it about it a little bit earlier, and this is something we actually talked about a little bit.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_03: So uh for me, AJ, what we want to talk about, first subject is gonna be uh I mean, it's not looking good right now, my friend.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_03: Uh the hardest part of a rebuild, AJ, is learning how to win again.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_03: In a previous episode, we've talked about the challenges that this team faces in spending a better part of the last three seasons intentionally losing games.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_03: The idea was pretty simple.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_03: Accumulate all the draft picks, land those coveted lottery picks that you wanted, develop the young talent, and eventually put yourself in a position to compete.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_03: The key word is eventually.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_03: While the Jazz spent the last three years doing exactly that, they've accumulated draft picks and got their young talent and hopefully identified their core players in Ace Bailey, Keontae George, and Darren Peterson that they believe they can build a foundation around going forward and moving the franchise towards, you know, being a competing team.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_03: Um losing, though, uh has become a habit for this team.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_03: And not just a habit, part of its culture.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_03: Just because you've acquired the talent uh does not mean that you will automatically undo the bad habits that you've created over the last three years.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_03: In fact, I think this transition from tinking to competing could be the most difficult part of the Utah Jazz's process process.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_03: Now, this team is expected to close out games, defend consistently, um, execute in crunch time, and understand what it takes to win in the NBA.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_03: The excuses that came with being a rebuilding team are starting to disappear.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_03: Development is still important, uh, but your fans, uh, to your fans, it's not the most important thing going on right now.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_03: It's not just players either.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_03: It's something that I've mentioned before on different episodes on this show, time and time again, that uh coach Will Hardy, uh, what will he do late in games when his team has the lead and then they get punched in the mouth?
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_03: How will he react?
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_03: Will he make changes?
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_03: How will he stop the run?
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_03: When this team is sitting at one and six, uh, fifteenth in the West, AJ, there's only 15 teams in the Western Conference.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_03: That's correct, yes.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_03: You can easily see that we could be easily three and four right now.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_03: And if, you know, it's not like I didn't say it enough.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_03: This team has a losing culture that spent three years developing.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_03: Um, it's early, but the early results show that it's not looking good right now, AJ.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I mean, and I I just think it's really important to to kind of remember that rebuilds take time.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_01: And even though even though the Jazz have a roster that I honestly, I honestly felt like this team could compete right out the gate.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I I said it like I I mean I'll I'll go on.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_01: I was on record saying the Jazz could win 50 games this year.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_01: I did back back off a little bit, and then I stepped up, beep.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_01: It was it was a whole ordeal, but um you you can't you can't just discard the fact that this team actually hasn't tried winning, you know, a game for three years now.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_01: That that is very difficult.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_01: And I I think the best way to look at it is if you you know you went to work every single day and you're you sat at your desk and your boss was just fine with you playing on your phone for eight hours a day, and you showed up and you went through the motions, and then one day the fun's over, and all of a sudden all the stuff that you were supposed to be doing is supposed to come to fruition.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_01: Uh that's where this team is, man.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_01: For the last three years, this team's been sitting on the bench, they've been going through the motions, they've been being NBA basketball players on paper at practice, but when it came time to actually be a basketball team, they didn't have to perform.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_01: And now they have to perform, and that's that is tough.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_01: That's where this team is.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_01: And um it it's time for a U-turn.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_01: Like this team has to make a U-turn.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um and and it's gonna be more more like uh more like a like a U-turn in an 18-wheeler versus a Geo Metro.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's gonna take a little bit of time.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um so I love the analogy there.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the the sky isn't falling.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_01: We we we do have a really, really good basketball team, and uh we just we just don't have anyone on this team that's been expected to win recently.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um and the players that we that we really we need that, you know, this this winning stream has to start with a trickle, and that trickle is going to start from a player, and the players that we've got to lean on have got to be Keontae George and Laurie Markinen.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, we see Coach Hardy in some of these situations, and I think some of his his issues early have been the rotations of players that are out on the floor because Coach Hardy has struggled putting out rotations that are effective together, and it's like I'm not sure why Coach Hardy thinks that some of these combinations are good, but you can see on the floor that they're not.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't know why Bryce Sensibaugh is still getting a ton of playing time.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know why Josh Okogee's playing over Josh Green.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I like the Jackson Hayes move.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_01: I like some of these rotations.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_01: Isaiah Collier is probably getting a few more minutes than he needs.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's just been really weird rotations, and and I'm hoping that Coach Hardy is narrowing down some of these rotations because it we're still playing losing basketball, and we've just got to get away from it.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, we've got to get Ace out there more.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_01: He's got to be on the floor.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_01: Ace has done a great job contributing in all the minutes that he gets.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_01: Ace has been out there doing a really good job playing with defensive effort.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_01: He can score tough baskets, um, tons of energy, ton of passion.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_01: I've loved Ace Bailey this season.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, he's absolutely proved I, you know, we did a video that he was gonna be the sixth man, potential sixth man of the year.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_01: Ace Bailey's proved both of us wrong.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_01: I think he he definitely deserves to be on the NBA floor all season.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he he's gonna make the Jazz better.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, his his play is what the rest of this team needs to play with.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like I said, energy, passion.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's just it's contagious.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that's the way you kind of get the the culture turned around and and back to a winning culture for this team.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, man, I have to agree with you on on a few of those things there.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_03: Um, primarily when it comes to when you talked about uh Ace Bailey, um, when it was clear that we were not signing Walker Kessler back, that was the moment that the team should have made it very clear that Ace Bailey was gonna be in the starting lineup.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_03: The team needed to back your boy up, and they did not.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and they, you know, didn't have him start.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_03: Uh can you imagine not starting Ace Bailey?
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_03: Like it's just mind-blowing.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, at this point, it's it's absolutely mind-blowing.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was a choice for sure.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, and then now we're finally deciding to start running through the hot hand of the game, Larry Marketing, when it's about seven minutes too short.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, so we'll see how this one ends um as we come down the stretch here.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_03: Dude, that Derek Queen guy is just having a game.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_03: Or was that that wasn't Queen?
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_01: No, that was Bay.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, still a bunch of big dudes on that team, man.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_03: Holy cow.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, man.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_03: It's uh it's it's pretty interesting there.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, again, we're sitting right now at a possibility of this team going one and nine in their first ten, which by the way, AJ, is a worse starting uh than this team has had when they weren't trying to win games uh through the first 10 games, which is really not something you want to see.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_03: Uh it's getting to the point now where you have to decide, okay, where when is it, right?
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_03: When is this whole thing?
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_03: And I mentioned that this, you know, we may have cued up like, oh, are the jazz in a losing culture?
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_03: Is this a losing culture?
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't matter.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_03: If you're losing, you were in a losing culture.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it doesn't matter.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_03: You can say, Oh, well, you know, there weren't trying to do it.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it is what it is, right?
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_03: Your record is what it is.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_03: Um, the jazz need to figure out a way to overcome this, and whether it's and it starts at all levels, man.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_03: It starts with roster building, it starts with and then it goes to coaching, and then it comes to the players accepting accountability, you know.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_03: So we'll have to see what happens when it comes to the Utah Jazz and whether or not they establish that.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_03: But as it says right now, there's not a whole lot of indicate of strong indicators pointing in the right direction.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I totally agree.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_03: Coach Will Hardy did mention that he said that he was gonna experiment for the first 20 games of the season.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, why he didn't do this in fall camp and preseason, uh, you know, blows my mind.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_03: But in the same token there, he mentioned that the first 20 games were gonna be where he's gonna be experimenting with the lineups.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_03: And I just honestly think that this was the plan all the way.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_03: Whether the first 20 games, he was gonna throw these different lineups out there, experiment with the roster, figure out what he's gonna do.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_03: And wins and losses weren't necessarily gonna be the priority uh for him at this point.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_03: I think it was gonna be more in along the lines of find the um find the roster you want to play with, you know.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and the rotation.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so I say, you know, another 10 games, you know, we'll start seeing what this team actually does, um, if they're we're turning things around or not.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so we'll see.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_03: Speaking of which, AJ, uh speaking of lineups when it comes to that, it's fair to say uh that uh this is something we're gonna need to discuss and it's gonna come up quite often.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_03: Um we've talked about it a little bit, we've actually hinted about it a little bit.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, but this is if this is the team that we have right now, and this is the way this team's gonna be, um, you know, we're not setting the world on fire right now.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_03: This is the way we're playing.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_03: Um I supposed to be keeping this one up, or is this one supposed to be your?
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_03: You are.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, because I can't see it because we've got the we got the game going on right now.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_01: We can probably flip the jazz game off.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, probably not that big of a deal.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, fair point.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_03: Fair point.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but yeah, so AJ, when it comes to that, again, like I mentioned, um, I do seem to remember that it wasn't too long ago where our team like the Utah Jazz was uh before.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_03: I remember it was not much longer ago when the Utah Jazz gave a stung, uh young stud guard the keys to the car and let him ran.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_03: Um breaking the franchise's rookie scoring record with a scoring 41 points uh in the first two months of the season against these very Pelicans um as a welcome to the NBA type game, right?
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_03: We could have had that same type of game for another player uh for the Utah Jazz in the first five games of this season, uh, but we didn't do it.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_03: It happened right on this very set uh last week, where we did not have uh our key players out on the court when we were playing against the Western Conference Champions and projected to be the favorite to win the NBA this year, uh, the finals this year in the Spurs.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_03: Um late in the fourth, we didn't stick with our key guys, Keontae George, Ace Bailey, and DP.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, no, no, no, AJ.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_03: What we did is we had Isaiah Collier and Bryce Sensibaugh losing an OT by four five to seven points.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_03: Same thing happened against the Lakers, and then again against the Gridleys, and then again and again and again after that.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_03: Um now I get that there's other players on this team, AJ, right?
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_03: That need to get minutes too.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_03: But if we are going to be this bad, and when we're trying, why not lose with our core on the floor, right?
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_03: If we're gonna lose to the Lakers and we had our core guys on the floor, I think every jazz fan out there would have been fine with it.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_03: But that's not what we're doing, AJ.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, it's not, and and I think that's kind of kind of what's really tough.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, this uh, you know, when when you're talking specifically uh core, I mean I think my my my main person here is is Darren Peterson, right?
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_01: And I think we need to start leaning into Darren Peterson as soon as possible because we need him to continue getting quality minutes at the NBA level against NBA players.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_01: We need him to learn while he's on the court, we need him to ask questions, we need him to just make uh himself better in every single one of these situations.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_01: DP is a really special player.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_01: He is a player that uh we probably didn't have any business getting at two because in any other draft he goes number one ten times over.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_01: So we got lucky, we got DP at two, uh, but we've got to invest a ton of time into him.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh you know, you you watch, um, uh you listen to these interviews, and and all the players and all the coaches talk about how invested he is and how he's been training to be an NBA player for a really long time.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_01: DP puts in the time.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_01: This team has to invest that same amount of time back into him to make sure that he's getting the most out of these opportunities.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um and then and then you team him up with Ace Bailey, who's also a really special player that we that that really slid down to five in a move by his management that again, we had no business getting a player this good at that position.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we we just shouldn't have had him.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_01: So the jazz got lucky.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_01: The the you know, to have these two guys young on the roster, um, and then especially at the same time.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_01: They're both in their their early years of their NBA careers where they can learn together.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but the jazz cannot shy away from letting these guys grow and learn together.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_01: It is so important.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_01: I just I can't stress it enough.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_01: They just they need to be out there at the same time and they need to be getting coached consistently and asking questions and watching tape.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_01: These guys are NBA infants.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_01: Like they're they're as young as you can be in the NBA, these two guys are.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_01: And if we don't let them get soak up all of this time and lose, then then when it comes time to to really expect them to shine, they're not gonna have enough experience to be valuable in those minutes.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_01: So um, I don't care if we lose a close game on a last second shot, but you know, how did the team bounce back the next night?
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_01: How did those rookies, who did they go talk to?
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_01: How did they, you know, what did they review in those last closing seconds?
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_01: How could their defensive assignment been better?
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_01: You know, that that kind of stuff is the stuff that we really need to see from this team.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know, man.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_01: Uh this is uh we've got to lean into these guys early.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_01: Uh that's that's just a hundred percent my opinion.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_01: We've got to go in on DP and we've got to go in on ace and let let Keonta, who's been in the league for three or four years now, help coach these guys, just gonna be important for this team moving forward.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, absolutely, man.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_03: In case for those uh new jazz fans out there that don't understand what I was talking about earlier, uh that was when we got Donovan Mitchell as a rookie.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_03: Uh we didn't think this team was gonna win.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_03: There was very little expectations for this jazz team to actually compete in the playoffs without Gordon Hayward on the team.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_03: When we lost him, we thought, you know, our team, you know, our team was gonna need to rebuild, right?
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_03: And we got this kid named Donovan Mitchell, and it was December 4th, by the way, that he broke the rookie scoring record for and scored 41 points.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_03: We had an opportunity to have a welcome to the NBA moment for DP or Keontae George uh against the Spurs, the defending Western Conference champions, and get that win and have that.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_03: But we decided not to.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_03: We decided to try and do something different and get creative with the lineup.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_03: Stuff's gotta stop, man.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_03: Like, and I don't know if it's something we're gonna do now, but like you mentioned there, I think it's a perfectly example of what this team needs to do.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_03: And if they're gonna go all in and develop on the players, we we need it's like my favorite saying is what do you ever what eventually you have to do?
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_03: If you have to do how does it say what needs to be done, what needs to be done eventually needs to be done immediately.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_03: So if this team wants to go all in on their core, we need to do that now.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_03: Win or lose, we need to go in now on ace DP Keontae George and develop that rest of the team around him, because I think that's what's gotta be.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, this this kid DP is gonna be an all-star.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_03: I think Keontae has potential being an all-star too, don't get me wrong.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_03: But this kid DP is gonna be the future of this team, and we need to sooner rather than later go all in and lean in on them.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yep, I just I totally agree, man.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_01: It it's it's gonna be vital to this team's success, and it's gonna be sooner rather than later.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, absolutely.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_03: If you want to hit some of these comments, man, let's get start off with Karen for Darren.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I would even love a J-turn.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, J turn would be fine.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, that's also an acceptable answer, Karen for Darren.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for the comment.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Mammoth Undertaking Mo Bama, uh Mo Bamba, Les Hayes fouled out.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, that's uh, you know, again, that's the kind of the same problem.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_03: We're trying to piece together the center position at some point, maybe again.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_03: Uh as we're sitting jazz fans, let me know in the comments down below if you're watching this live.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_03: Let me know in the chat.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_03: Um, is you know, Walker Kessler looking bad at 30, what, 33 million right now?
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_03: Like, right?
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_01: How much deep how much different does this team look with Walker Kessler?
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, is that 33 million dollars worth of?
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, also we're supposed to get Nurk Batch, and he's supposed to be Nurk Nurkic back.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_01: He's supposed to be re-evaluated next week.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, maybe we only got another week or so of basketball without Nurkic.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: He is he a great defensive player, no, but does he add some of that stability and ball handling and the ability to spread the floor?
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_01: He will find the open man.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_01: Nurk will help us in all of those things.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and he's a big body down there, you know what I mean?
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_01: Like that that guy that we were just watching, Derek Queen.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_01: He he doesn't push Nurk around like that.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_03: No, he doesn't you know what I mean?
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like that that's all there is to it.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: So you're missing that yeah, you're missing that big body center that can that can just body up some of these guys.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, uh we're we're missing him.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_01: We're missing him real bad right now.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, there's room to be optimistic for this team, absolutely.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, but again, folks, we want to uh err on the side of caution that this rebuild process is not gonna hope now happen overnight.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_01: It takes time, and then stay positive.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_01: This is our team.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we'll get there.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_03: We'll get there.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_03: Car Watch Channel, uh tanking continues.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_03: We've got uh Ivan, uh uh Cone Joe, 89, 88, 91.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_03: I thought we was uh hella team, right?
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_03: Well, it's good good point.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_03: Um we could have been, but you know, yeah, losing streak continues.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_03: Losing street continues for sure.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_03: It does, it does.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_03: It did, it for sure does.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_03: Uh again, caking continues and the losing streak continues.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_03: You got it correct to the case.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_03: He actually said lozenges.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_03: Lozenges.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, either way, clear the throat, clear the clear the losing culture out of there.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_03: Pacific Northwest Ute.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, at least Jackson uh got to swap jerseys with Zion postgame.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my gosh, that happened.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, wow.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, find find the find the silver lining wherever you can find it.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, hey, you know, we're right there.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_03: We're right there.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_03: Uh we got Austin Pole.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, this is disgusting and pathetic.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_03: I am so sick of the jazz announcers saying, wow, look at the effort from the jazz, and the jazz keep embracing themselves and the fans every time they play.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_03: Embarrassing themselves, not embracing themselves.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_03: Either way, embracing and embarrassing themselves.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely, man.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_03: It's it's there was so much of that.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_03: We're like, you know, let Keontae hit that shot.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_03: Remember, no, yeah, he shouldn't have been shooting that shot.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_03: There's a lot of possessions on this team on this game where I'm like, okay, Laurie Markin is the one when you do a screen and roll, right?
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_03: A pick and roll, and the big pops out to shoot a three.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_03: There's in no reality should be Keontae George be pulling up and taking that three when you have Laurie on the wing.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_03: Who's literally that's what he's built his career on doing.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_01: But also remember that um Craig Bowlerjack and Thurrell Bailey are paid by the Jazz to be enthusiastic about this team during the broadcast.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_01: If you'd like an uh a more or a less filtered uh version, this is why you come to us, because the jazz haven't been good, they've sucked, and they need to get better.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_01: I love this team and I want they to want them to win, and I think they're going to be a really good basketball team, but right now they are really bad.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_01: And their effort, the the jazz announcers can say all they want that this team is trying, but trying doesn't mean wins.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_01: That's no, you know what I mean?
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_01: Like trying to getting close enough is only good in a couple of sports, and basketball is not one of them.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, trying doesn't mean you're ex.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: Executing at a you know at an NBA level, and which is where the jazz need to be.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_03: Trying does not mean that you are a team that is making good shot selections, that you're rotating appropriately on defense.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_03: All this stuff is falling on on really on Coach Hardy's shoulders right now.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's that's this next comment.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_01: Can't continue with Hardy.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_01: Anthony OU812.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't know if it's time to pull the plug on Hardy because Hardy has done I think this is just my opinion, but I think Hardy is in a very, very tough situation with these players.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_01: Again, he hasn't had to have them win.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_01: And you he's instilled his culture, but now he's got to instill winning culture.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_01: It is not something that can be done in seven or eight games.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_01: It is something that is going to take some time.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm not saying it's going to take a full season, but give him a few more games, give him a chance to show this team that this team can, you know, they can still play together, they can still be successful.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_03: Same comment here from um Adam King, 6645.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_03: Is everyone sure we have the right coach?
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I think it might be too early to say we have the right coach, but it's also too early to say that he's the wrong one.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_03: Uh it's definitely worth questioning though, Adam.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_03: I have to agree with you on that one.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_03: There's definitely cause for concern there.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_03: Uh again, instilling a losing culture is hard to undo.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_03: So we gotta see, we gotta see if we can do it.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um, let's see here.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_03: We got, oh gosh, I love this car off channel.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_01: I guess Jess going one in 81.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_01: Very unlikely.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_01: Let's hope not.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, let's let's really hope.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_01: This was the game.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't even I wouldn't even have said that out loud, man.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_01: I'm too I'm too worried about the mojo.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_03: This was the game I was expecting them to win on this road trip.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_01: I did, I was hoping for a win tonight, that's for sure.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, Austin Paul.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_01: Clearly, our coach is a let down.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, we at as it sits right now, you're not wrong.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, if bowler is a jazz apologist, we deserve an apology.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, that is that is correct.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, bowler, bowler should get on against your Twitter or Instagram.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_01: I don't give a shit which one it is, but bowler needs to apologize to all of us because this team's been bad.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we're 50 minutes and we can get we can drop an S bomb.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_03: Perfect.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_03: When it comes to that, like before we move on, I want to go back to that uh when it's talking about apologists there.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's not even just them, even like the the radio, like David Locke, man.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_03: He was talking about the$50 million pro problem.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_03: If$50 million of your roster is on the IL, you know, you really don't, you know, you really have a built-in excuse.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, I don't want to hear that, dude.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_03: Like, yeah, Triple J went down.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_03: Like, yeah, if you have, but he's got like$48 million.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_03: He's one player.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_03: We didn't have him for half the year, and we had a better record than we have now without him on the floor.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yet we have all the talent we need right now, you know.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_03: I'm sure Larry Marking was out for a game or two, you know.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, I again it just teams are getting paid by the I mean, people are getting paid by the team are gonna have a lot of things to say where they're gonna be super optimistic and find the the, like you said, the silver lining, and it's just that's not gonna be here, guys.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_03: So appreciate it.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you guys for joining us on the show.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm and I'm the optimist, the eternal optimist.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_01: The Mr.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_03: 50 wins guy right here.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, I'm with you, man.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_01: That's okay.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_01: We're we're we're right here.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_01: Come watch, we can cry together.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm embarrassed to be a Utah Jazz fan.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_01: The Jazz need to start handling out brown paper sacks to all their fans before each game.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_03: I like it.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_03: I like it.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_03: Future Toyota Cup uh Toyota Club giveaway.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if Flaming Hardy is fair to the Jazz tonight.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_01: Had so many open shots and they just could not make a three.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: McKinley, thanks for joining, buddy.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_01: That is exactly, I mean, Darren and I were watching the game before the show started, and we just couldn't buy a shot for a team that we both, I think both thought was gonna not have as many issues scoring the ball.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_01: We were really worried defensively whether we could get stops and rebounds.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_01: The team's actually been pretty effective defensively and rebounding.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_03: Rebounding has been a huge surprise for this team so far.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_01: But our but our offense has been atrocious.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't understand why we can't make very wide open shots.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, not even super contended.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_01: We're just we're struggling to generate offense.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if it's even that.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's just bad shot selection.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_03: I'm tired of seeing the straightaway three with 15 seconds left on the shot clock.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I am tired of seeing that.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_03: This team is not that team.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_03: We don't have a bunch of 40% three-point shooters all around the team.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_03: You know, we wanted to build shooters, but guess we don't have the rebounding.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_03: We should not be taking that shot.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_03: I agree.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_03: It's just not the right shot.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_03: So again, that would fall on the coach, on the coaching staff, and maybe the players for not running the set offense.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and the front office injuries don't help.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_01: We have a starting center.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_01: We don't have a starting center right now.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, yeah, the system seems to be working pretty well.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_01: Open shots and defense has been better than average.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_01: The last four games we've been holding teams below league average.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah again, defense has been effective.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_01: Defensing and rebounding.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: And the shots don't look bad.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's the shot like what is that?
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_01: The shot making percentage.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like they just aren't making them.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_03: So it needs to take a lid off the rim.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's not that it's not that they're not getting generating open shots, they just can't make them, which I would argue that some of the shot selection's not great.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_03: I would argue that you don't need Isaiah Collier going up against three bigs trying to get a layup and try and draw a foul.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, especially putting your shoulder down and going to the basket.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm okay with Isaiah doing that one-on-one on a fast break and putting his shoulder in and you know what I mean, like muscling up.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_03: You've got three big guys on you, somebody's open.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, somebody's got it, you gotta make a better read than that.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_01: Jazz management should have planned the offseason for us to need a backup center because what they've been putting on the floor is ridiculous.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think they did plan for the backup center.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_01: I just don't know if I I think originally.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_03: Triple J was the backup center for this team.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_01: No, I think Nurkic was the backup center.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_01: Triple J was supposed to be out there to start.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, Nurkic was the backup center.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, to um to Walker Kessler.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_03: And then when they didn't sign Walker Kessler, they're like, okay.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_01: And then they picked up Hayes, and it's like, okay, well, this is our backup center.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_01: And now we've got both these guys that are, you know, pretty much in starting position, which is just not not the best thing.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_01: Uh this reminds me of the Pistons when they were losing.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_01: You can tell they have talent, they just need time to put it together.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, I mean, that's that's not a that that's a great comparison.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_01: And the Pistons are a good team now.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, they ran into the playoffs.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_01: It did take him a couple of years.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, Cade Cumm Cade Cunningham went, you know, he became he became a player that was helping that team win.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_01: And and I think you're right, this team just they just need some time to mesh and and and grow and learn where each other's gonna be on the floor.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_01: Don't give up, jazz fans.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_01: This this is not the time to give up on this team.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_01: I know it's frustrating because I was with you.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_01: I thought we were gonna win 50 games, but this is still our team.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_01: Those are still our guys out on the floor.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_01: We've got to continue to go out and support them.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_01: Uh anyone that is saying coach Hardy has been a good coach, has been paying attention.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_01: Being a nice guy doesn't mean you're a good coach.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_03: I agree.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_03: We're not saying he's a great coach, we're saying it's too early to call uh to say that he's not he's not the right coach.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's it's more like it's yeah, exactly.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_03: It's too early to say proud Ajax there.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I missed that one.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, um key over dribbled at the end and wouldn't pass.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_03: Will needed to call a timeout.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_03: There's there was um, and again, uh same situation when it came to endoregulation.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_03: That running that uh that pick and roll there and then not passing the ball and pulling up the three-pointer, contested three-pointer at the top of the key, which is you know, most people tell you that's the worst place for to shoot a three, you know, contested at the top of the key at top of the key there.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know, man.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_03: I just on both sides of it, you're right.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_03: I think we need a little bit more ball movement.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_01: I wanted to throw up that yeah.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_01: Jack Snake's doing a jersey swap of Zion after we lose.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_01: I wanted to throw up, get that bum out of here.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_01: We didn't see it if we we flipped it off after the game ended.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we we didn't see it, but I I definitely agree with you.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_03: Uh you know, you need to start be taking you need to start taking those losses a little bit more personal.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and that's that's where we've got to get to, right?
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_01: You you've got to take winning personal, and the only way you can do that is to take losses personal.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_01: You you've got to be upset that this team isn't winning basketball games because as fans, you can see from the comment section, we're disgusted that this team needs to win.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_03: That's all there is to it.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_03: Jackson Hayes doing a jersey swap.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_03: What you know, yeah.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_01: Only if he had that shot off point two seconds sooner.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_03: Again, over-dribbling to you know, Ajax's point.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_01: He took he took one too many dribbles.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, keys key's gotta be aware of that, dude.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_01: You've got to have a timer in your head.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_01: If you've got 3.2, you're counting to three before you shoot.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_01: You're not taking another dribble on three to try to get that shot up.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_03: Uh uh back behind the back pass to Larry Market in the game's over, the jazz win.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_03: Like I said, it's it was it was trying to be the hero, you know, and I get it.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_03: You know, he's his contract's very incentiving.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_03: He feels like he's gotta be the leader of this team, he's gotta take the shot.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_03: I get it.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_03: But you know, being the leader of the team is you know, getting the other players involved too.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, thanks for not being jazz PR personalities, a la David Locke.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, I love Locke.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_01: I I love Locke, but yeah, sometimes his opinions they are frustrating because he is so pro-Jazz.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's his job.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_01: I get it.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_01: The Jazz don't pay me.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_01: I am just a Utah Jazz fan, just like all of you guys.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_01: I love having these discussions with you guys.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_01: That's why we do the show.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely appreciate that comment, Austin.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_03: That was that's great, dude.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_03: Appreciate it.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because yeah, it's tough to find um, you know, biased, you know, unbiased, you know, takes on the internet.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_03: That's why we want to do this, because again, we're not out here to be, you know, NBA insiders, we're not here to be, you know, stat professionals.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_03: We wanted to create a show where folks could go and have a conversation with somebody like them, like-minded fans like them, where you actually might know something we don't know and we want to hear it because that's literally what this is supposed to be.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's supposed to be a give and take with your buddies uh on on sports.
• 31:17
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• 31:18
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• 31:20
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• 31:21
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• 31:26
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• 31:34
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• 31:38
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• 31:41
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• 31:43
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• 31:45
  SPEAKER_03: We're gonna hit a few of these comments here on the way out.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_03: Uh we see here love you, uh, love the show, you guys.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_03: Thanks for being honest at least.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, absolutely, man.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_03: Appreciate you.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you very much for um for uh the kind words there.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_03: Got another comment here from Adam King, uh 6645.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_01: What if I want to give up?
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_01: The front office ruined this team over a draft pick and can't figure out how to put it back together.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_01: The Jazz need to be making the playoffs again.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_01: Stay strong, Adam.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_03: We've been spoiled as yes, stay strong.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we that's that's exactly the problem.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_01: Is we had a couple really good seasons where we were the best team in the regular season in the NBA.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_01: And we were we had and we had some really good players and we had a really good core.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_01: And you know what I mean?
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_01: We we had a really good coach uh in in Quinn Snyder that you know, we were we were so close to putting things together, but at some point you've got to turn the ship.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_01: This is the ship that's been turned, you know, now we're jumping back onto the ship.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_01: We've got to be we've got to be jazz fans through and through.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: So don't give up, buddy.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_01: We're we're here with you.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um come join the comment section and we'll we'll discuss it anytime you want, man.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, man.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_03: I I'm right there with you, man.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_03: I it's something that we've I've said at least.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know, AJ the Eternal Optimist may not have agreed with me on this one, but don't think for a second that that that this front office, this ownership group, uh, or these players have done anything to prove that they're capable of being good stewards of this franchise yet.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, the the front the angels inherited the team and they did the easiest move in the in that they can think of trade away our top talent.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_03: They didn't figure out a way to make it work with them, they didn't just trade a key piece or keep one of them.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_03: No, they traded everybody to rebuild.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_03: Rebuilding was the easiest step to do.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_03: It was a necessary one to do, but it was also the easiest move to make.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_03: Um, the team has been Ryan Smith inherited a great team and hasn't done anything with it, did not uh expand on it, didn't go into the luxury tax threshold or go into like whatever the apron was at the time uh to improve the team when it needed to be done uh to make the push in the playoffs.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, so this team has it, this iteration of this team has not done anything to warrant to oh to earn your trust that they've done it right.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_03: They need to do it right first, and uh yeah, we're right there with you.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_03: We want to hear from you folks, let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_03: Again, appreciate everybody joining us live here.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_03: If you're watching this uh on YouTube afterwards or listening on the podcast, we appreciate you as well.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you guys for tuning in, and uh yeah, we'll see you again next week.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you guys so much.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 33:59
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• 34:03
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• 34:10
  SPEAKER_03: Right, that's not what we do here.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_03: We go we do one more.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_03: Let's hit this comment while we're waiting.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_03: Uh for the most for most teams, it takes longer than five years to get back to the playoffs.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_03: The jazz have been unusually good at that.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_01: Uh at getting good again fast.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_03: Well, not this year, not this time.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, but yeah, well, once again, folks, appreciate it.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_03: We'll see you next week.
• 34:28
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• 34:29
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• 34:37
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• 34:40
  SPEAKER_03: That's right.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_03: All right, man.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_03: Lots to get into, man.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_03: Um, tough on the jazz there, but let's go ahead and pivot on over.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_03: Let's go ahead and talk some youth.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_02: Let's do it.
• 35:05
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• 35:10
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• 35:14
  SPEAKER_01: Make sure you smash that like button for your boy Darren.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_03: That's right.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_03: All right, man.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_03: Well, this dude, it is the week, AJ.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_03: It is rivalry week for the Utah Jazz, the Holy War.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_03: The Utah Jazz?
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_03: Sorry, I did that again.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_03: Dang it.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_01: It's okay.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_01: It's okay.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_01: It's the Utah Utes.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_01: Is that what we're doing here?
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_01: Let me look around.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_01: Is it?
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, right up.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's it's all around us.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, it's right up there.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_01: Just gotta look at it.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_03: Just gotta look at it.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_03: Um, all right, folks.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_03: Well, once again, uh, before we get into the week, before we jump into the holy war, let's go ahead and quickly recap Utah versus Cincinnati.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, the Utah Utes uh put together an arguably one of their most complete performances of the season on Saturday, AJ.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_03: Uh dominating win against Cincinnati against the Bearcats, 49-25 on the road.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, the then ranked uh sixth nationally.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_03: Uh the Utes came out firing and delivered on an incredible first half, uh taking a commanding 42-6 lead into the locker room.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_03: Quarterback Devin Dampierre threw for 260 yards, including three touchdowns, while Hunter Andrews had a breakout performance with 112 receiving yards and two touchdowns as well.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_03: Uh the defense also was very impressive, scoring twice, once in the first half on a 51-yard fumble return uh by Rabbit Evans, and then a 30 39-yard interception return by Elijah Davis.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_03: Walker, uh sorry, Weyshawn Parker, and Daniel Bray also helped uh power the running game.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_03: Cincinnati showed some life in the second half, um, outscoring Utah 7-19-7 uh in the second half, but the damage was already done.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_03: The Utes improved to 8-0, 5-4 in Big 12 play, continuing to establish themselves as the team's top three team in the conference, in the country.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, not just the 5-0 in uh Big 12 play.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_01: I think you said five and four.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_01: But five and oh in Big 12 play.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_03: Five and four.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_03: How have they played nine games in conference when there's only when they're eight and now?
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_01: That's what you said.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I heard.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe you guys let me know.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_01: Anyways, yeah.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_01: Five and oh five and oh conference play.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um, really, really gun fun, really fun game to watch for Utah.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_01: Uh the offense was moving the ball really well, uh, very effective in all of their offensive scoring drives.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they just they just moved the ball every single time they had it.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_01: The defense did a great job, like you mentioned.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I also really liked what I saw from Hunter Andrews.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um, he's really played kind of a utility tight end most of the season.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he's done a bunch of blocking, he's run the ball a few times.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but it was nice to see him get a couple of touchdown passes in this game that really just gave defenses of the future one more thing to worry about.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like all these teams, like you've seen Noah Benny go out there and score a couple touchdowns as a tight end.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you've seen Braden Pagan, he's like our big, our big threat out there.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, Larry Simmons has been great at the wide receiver, and now it's just one more thing for future defenses to worry about.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_01: If Hunter Andrews is on the field, he can catch it, he can block, he can run the ball.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_01: So I love that um for Utah.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_01: Daniel Bray had a great game, burst out.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um he's got such great speed.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, when he gets into the the backside, you know, if he gets into that secondary, chances are no one's catching him, and he's getting a big gain.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_01: So it's been really fun to watch Daniel Bray.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um, just love what I saw from the youth, man.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_01: Go on the road, get a win.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_01: They needed to win this one in dominating fashion.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_01: They did.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, you saw it fall off a little bit in that second half.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_01: Really tough to keep 21-year-olds engaged, you know, when they're up 42 to 6 at halftime.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so yeah, Cincinnati did score some points in the second half, but this was a Utah team that looked they looked to go win in dominating fashion, and that's exactly what they got accomplished.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'd have to say, yeah, you know, and obviously uh Coach Cali Wagon in the game said that he really wished they would have done a lot more in the second half to tighten it up, maybe put some more points on the board to kind of establish re-establish dominance there.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_03: But um, yeah, I think you're right on there, man.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_03: At that point, you know, it was pretty much it was it would have been I don't know.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_03: I think they did enough.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they did uh to prove it.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, I what would you want to do in there?
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_03: Did you want to run uh Bird Flicklin out there for and to kind of push him to get it to run out the score a little bit more and risk?
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_01: I wish that Bird would have been in there earlier than he was.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's kind of how I was it.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, why is why yeah?
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just kind of like, why is Yeah, I I I I could have seen Bird in there for the probably the last three offensive drives versus the last one.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, not a big fan of that one for sure.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_01: Give Devin a few plays off.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_01: Even if it's eight, nine minutes of game play, you know, the youth the youths didn't need offensive production at that point.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_01: Let Bird get some some live reps and you know get a chance to move the ball, give him a little bit of confidence going into a BY game, B BYU game where you may need him to make some throws and make some runs.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_01: And but yeah, hey, it's over now.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's over now.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_03: They got the dub and they did it in convincing fashion.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_03: Again, my continued concern that I've had all year is that this team needs to do a lot better about making sure that they're keeping their quarterbacks healthy.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, and running them both at the same time in the same place, are probably not the best way to do that.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_03: It's you know, I don't know.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_03: I think that's that's kind of my my nitpicky thing there on this one.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, like you said, rather have seen uh Devin M Pier out there, not even now in the second half, probably at all.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, but here we are.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_03: Uh like this comment from Pacific Northwest Ute.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_03: There's more jazz about the Utes, anyways, with two Z.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_03: Appreciate it.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_03: Like what you did there, and thank you for bailing me out on that one.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_03: I appreciate it.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_03: We want to hear from you folks.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_03: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below when it comes to uh Utes um convincing win over Cincinnati this week.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_01: Last week.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_03: This last week.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_01: This last week.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because yeah, I mean, I guess yeah, technically Saturday was last week.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_03: Dude, this guy, I swear.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just picking him apart, man.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_03: That's all I do.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I do all day, too.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just over here like, hmm, say it wrong again.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_03: Say it wrong again, see what happens.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's good.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_03: It's good.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um, here for this is not a professional operation, so you guys get what you get.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_03: That's right.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_03: That's right.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_03: Got another comment here from Karen Fodaron.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_03: Who imagined that the youths wouldn't would have had fewer losses than the jazz have wins at this point of the season?
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_03: Definitely not me, man.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_03: Like, you know, I just what a great point, though.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_03: It's a fair, fair point, man.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_03: You know, it's it's really tough, man.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_03: Uh um, but yeah, so the youths have been doing great.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, great uh win here.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_03: Let's go ahead and jump into our preview of the Holy War AJ BYU at UTA at Rice Cycles.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_03: Let's go ahead and get into it.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, um, so let's go ahead and break down arguably the most important offering the Holy War has ever had in its offing.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, you have the number seven ranked BYU Cougars coming into Rice Cycles Stadium to defend their recent winning streak over the Utes.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_03: The Utes haven't beaten the Cougars since 2019.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_03: However, AJ, our number three ranked Utes are coming in with an 8-0 record and this season and have a five and a half point favor um on this contest.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, the game is gonna be at a 10 a.m.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_03: kick, uh, which will be played at Prime College Football uh watching slot on the Big Boy Network, which is ABC.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_01: And that's it's funny because us as youths fans, we've been really upset about this time slot because the game starts at 10 o'clock for us.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_01: But but really for the rest of the country, this is right in the middle of the day, man.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_01: Like you're you're right in there in prime watching hours.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_01: This game's gonna get a ton of viewership.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_01: The holy war, it's just gonna kind of help ramp it up and teams to see how how great of a football matchup this really is.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um to go into it offensively, BYU is a very talented team.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I would say they are a lot better than the 77th ranked passing offense that is generating 222 yards a game.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_01: Their rushing offense is ranked 44th, that brings in 175.4 yards per game.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_01: Uh their total offense is ranked 56th and averaging 398 yards per game.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_01: Statistically, the youths have beaten two better offenses with Cincinnati and Houston both still ranked in the top 20 uh for offense this year.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_01: So the youths have beaten teams better statistically.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so that's kind of a great, great way to kind of see where our defense, you know, could potentially be.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we all know that their uh their star quarterback, Bear Bachmeyer, he's been fantastic.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_01: And it's not just this year or last year, he was great.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, I think he's lost a total of like three games with BYU and his total time there.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um so he's thrown for 1,750 yards, completed 63% of his passes, thrown for 12 touchdowns, as well as rushed for 336 yards and ran in seven touchdowns.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so a lot of their offense has come from bear.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_01: That the the the Cougars have battled.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um they got obviously they got their current seven and one record with that tough loss coming in at UCF.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um Still uncertain on LJ Martin whether he'll be available or not.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_01: He does still lead the team with 344 yards, even though he has been out for multiple weeks.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_01: Since he's been out, BYU has leaned on a combination of Preston Rex and Jerny Tonga to kind of carry that running back load.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_01: But Bachmeyer's favorite receiving target has been Legend Glasker, who has 585 receiving yards.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_01: He does target Kyler Kasper quite a bit.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_01: He's also got 430 receiving yards.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_01: So it's a well-rounded offense, man.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_01: And this is one that, you know, beat a really good Notre Dame team that is still in the top 11 after the college football playoff rankings.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_01: So this Utah defense is going to need to attack, you know, they're going to need to continue to apply a ton of pressure to Bear.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_01: Make sure to contain him when the pocket breaks down.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_01: You've you've got to make sure because he will make you pay with his legs.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_01: I think your question there is how much do the Cougars want to put on Bear Bachmeyer without that number one running back option there.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you know he's going to be the key to this team being successful, and you cannot afford Bear Bachmeyer getting hurt.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, you definitely not.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_03: Um on our on defense, um, our top players to watch there for the Couggs are going to be the linebacker.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_03: And forgive me on some of these pronunciations.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_03: I am not good at these.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_03: Doing my best here.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_03: You can roast me in the comments.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_03: I I will gladly appreciate it.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but on the coups, man, we got linebacker Cade Ulave.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_03: Um, he is a Cal transfer that leads BYU in tackles with 52 um uh altogether, uh, which is uh four tackles uh for losses as well.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_03: Uh he's gonna be important in trying to contain the Utes uh ground game by limiting Dampier's abilities to uh extend plays.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_03: Edge rusher, uh Tala CE Akana.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_03: Just brutal for me, man.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_03: Brutal for me.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_03: Um, he's also gonna be a problem for the Utes.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_03: Uh six tackles for losses this season, as well as three and a half sacks um uh on their team.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_03: Uh he's probably their best pass rusher when it comes to production.
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_03: BYU is coming off of a really strong defensive performance against Arizona State.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_03: The Cougars uh recorded six sacks uh and held ASU to 279 total yards and forced a fumble that led to an early scoring opportunity for the Couggs, uh that's which was a significant bounce back win after their loss to UFC.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_03: If Utah establishes the run game and keeps Ocana um off and keep Ocana off their pass rushers from teeing off on Devin Dampier, I think the Utes have a significant advantage on this one.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_01: I agree.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I think Utah, and I I couldn't say this super confidently last year, um, because BYU looked a lot better than Utah did last year.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_01: But this year I do strongly believe Utah is the better football team.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_01: I think they are better offensively, I think they are better defensively.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they still got a task though, and I think this is going to be a really tough, really hostile environment for BYU to be coming into.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I think that was some of the reason the BYU won the game last year was obviously Utah had to go into a really hostile environment.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um Lavelle Edwards Stadium is is is just as rowdy, um, maybe not quite as rowdy as Rice Eccles.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_01: I've been to Rice Eccles, haven't been to Lavelle Edwards.
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_01: I don't I don't know.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_01: I have not been to Lavelle Edwards.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I do have it, I do have to go to Provo tomorrow, but um not super happy about that.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_01: Throw a prayer up for your boy over there.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_03: I was at the I was at the BYU Utah game where it was zero to three where it's snowing sideways, and that was like the end of the game with zero three.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Urban Myers kept running the kept running the same play over and over again.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_03: The only score was a field goal by the Utes.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_03: We got hit with two snowstorms.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was insane.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_03: People were buying four dollar hot chocolates just to melt the bleacher so they could sit down.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_01: That's insane.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_03: It was a crazy, crazy game.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_03: And yes, the BYU Cougar fans get really loud there.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_01: I know, and I totally believe it.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_01: And I and I think that's I think that's some of the reason.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's the reason they pulled off the Notre Dame game.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, they're they're a good home team for that reason.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_01: So, but the youths have that advantage this week, and I am very happy that they do.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm happy that they'll be in a place that we can cheer for them and help them as much as we can.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the youths have everything on the line this weekend.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_01: Everything's on the line as far as conference standings, as far as um college football playoff standings.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_01: You know, this is this is one of the games that everyone says Utah hasn't played anybody.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_01: You know, even though we beat a tough Cincinnati team on the road that had just beaten an undefeated tech team, even though we beat Houston at home, it hasn't been enough for all the national standards to get a win at home against a top 10 BYU team, is exactly what this program needs to be continued to be thrust into that national spotlight.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_01: So um I know they can win this game.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_01: And uh the offense has been electric, the defense has made opportunistic plays when it's needed, and uh I just I think Utah's got a really good chance.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna call Utah on this one 35 BYU 21.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_03: Awesome, man.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_03: Awesome.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_03: Uh McKinley, you want to we want to jump in, jump in there and give us your score.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_03: Pacific Northwest, we want to hear from you as well on what your prediction is for this one.
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_03: Everybody who's watching us live in the chat, jump in, give us your screen.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_03: Throw it in there.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_03: I want to hear it.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um told me how dumb I am.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, for those of you who don't know, uh McKinley Cutler is our uh resident uh BYU fan here, uh, who is uh channel uh a friend of the channel for for us here.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_03: Um the over-under on this one on this one, AJ, is 47.5.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_03: Um two great defensive teams.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_03: My concern is that Utah's ability uh to have a short memory and remember what it's like to play a team that plays good defense.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so I don't think the Utes get to 30 points on this one.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_03: Um however I do think they come away with a win.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_03: Uh in traditional holy war fashion, it's gonna be a difference of one score, and it's gonna be the last drive of the game that's gonna decide this one.
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_03: I think the youth are gonna take it 28 to 21.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't mind that.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't I have seen I've watched quite a few BYU games this year.
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_01: Their defense this year is not as good ahead as good as it has been in past years.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_01: I will be very curious to see how they stop this Devin Dampier led offense with so many weapons on the field.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I just definitely think they're a lot better than Cincinnati.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_01: Uh but Cincinnati has a top-ranked rush defense.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, but the like their their passing defense isn't great, and that's where that's where the youths got them.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_01: But but Cincinnati's rushing defense is actually better ranked than BYU's is.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_03: Right, right, which you did say there in the earlier part.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_03: I just like I said, uh I just think that this team is a much better team.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_03: Uh their offensive line, their their defensive line is much better.
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and again, we're gonna see some challenges there.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_03: I just hope the youths have a sore memory so we can see what happens.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_03: Um, because yeah, love to see it.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um I'd love to see, I'd love to be wrong on this one, but I definitely think this is there's nothing that tells me this isn't gonna hold court to a standard holy war where we're gonna see them be, it's gonna be the last stride of the game that's gonna decide this one.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_03: I just I just don't see how that's not gonna be the case.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_01: I just figured that BYU can't score if they can't hear.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_01: Like I I know that I'm willing to sacrifice my voice for a Utah win in this game.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_03: Nice.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_03: Did we get confirmation that LJ's back uh the LJ's uh I know he's questionable?
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_01: He is he is questionable.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_01: It said that the the last update that I saw right before the show was if he does play, it will be in a limited capacity.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, we got comments here from McKinley Cutler saying he made his call there uh with LJ BYU uh 28 to 24 without LJ, uh it's gonna be 14 to 31.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_03: Interesting, interesting.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_03: You think he's gonna have that much of a say in this one?
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's what he said in the next comment.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_01: BYU without LJ is just such a different team.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, they are, they are, and and it and it's because you put so much more on Bear Bachmeyer to be effective and move the ball up the field.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_03: You know, they did with they they beat um they beat Notre Dame uh without him, right?
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_03: And then they also had a decisive they had a pretty decisive winning against Arizona State.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, they weren't showing great in the first half, but the second half they they they kind of came in.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_03: I just I guess you know, obviously McKinley you've watched a lot more BYU than I have.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_03: So but uh for me when it comes to that man, I just I th I think he, you know, is that is that not selling them a little short considering what they've been able to do without him?
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_01: Like I I think the Cougars have been good, but I I do think that um Utah's just gonna be able to capitalize.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_01: I think Utah will be able to capitalize.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_01: I think the environment will will play a huge part in this game.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_01: Like I I really do think that that could be the reason that the youths take this one.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_03: So nice, yeah.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe I'm just one of those folks who just have a hard time believing, you know, when we have a nice thing, I just can't accept it, you know.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, yeah, we're ranked number three in the nation right now, but at the same time, like, did we earn it yet?
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_03: Kind of thing.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_01: In the past two games, youths declawed the Houston Cougars and the Cincy Bearcats.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_01: Next felines up.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_01: Let's get it.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_03: I like it.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_03: Pacific Northwest youth's always good with the puns, you know.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_03: Always, dude.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_03: I looked at I gotta say, I do look forward to them each week.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_03: Every single one.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_03: No pressure.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_03: Karen Fidarin's jumping into your territory a little bit, though.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_03: We have seen a few of them.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_03: He does got some good stuff, yeah.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_03: It's coming for sure.
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_01: It's been appreciated too.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, we got one more.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_01: Uh to make it to Rice Hycle Stadium by 10 a.m., BYU fans will have to rise and shout.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_03: I like it.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, absolutely.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_01: They they will need to be too doing a lot of rising and shouting.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's uh yeah, a lot of day drinking for you fans, so that's gonna be kind of tough.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_01: I think the last two weeks showed that teams figured out BYU can't run the ball without LJ and our scheming for that.
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_01: I I agree with this.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_01: I think that teams are putting Bear in a situation where he is going to need to throw the ball.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, this is a very opportunistic Utah defense, right?
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_01: We do play man.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um BYU's got some great receivers.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_01: He will complete some passes that will put the Utes in questionable situations.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_01: But when when you're playing man defense, you're willing to bend and not break because you can't run down the field when there's only 25 yards ago, right?
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're willing to push them into field goals.
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_01: So um, yeah, I teams have been able to make BYU more one-dimensional.
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they do got a great offensive line, but you know, how much can you lean on Bear Bachmeyer every single week in, week out?
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_01: It'll be such a great game, man.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_01: I'm so I'm so excited.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, definitely looking forward to it, man.
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_03: It's gonna be a good one.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_03: Same thing can be said about the the youths man.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_03: The way Devin Dampier goes is the way this team goes.
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_03: So absolutely, you know, it's definitely kind of a it's it's it's eerie how close these teams are measured up, right?
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_03: They're both in the same position.
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_03: Wait, no, BYU ain't to number two in the rankings.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_03: But it's very funny how they both got into the top three this year.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, still both two top teams.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, we want to hear from you if let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
• 54:49
  SPEAKER_03: Is this the most important uh BYU Utah rivalry game that we've had uh in recent memory?
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_03: I know it's been since I've been around for sure.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_03: Uh we want to hear from you, let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_03: Drop it in the chat, let us know what your prediction is for this game.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_03: We want to hear from you, let us know in the comments down below.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, do it.
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_03: All right, man.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_03: Should we go ahead and move on over and talk a little bit about Major League Baseball?
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_02: Let's do it.
• 55:19
  SPEAKER_03: But first, before we get into the content, folks, we'd like to encourage you to join the conversation in the comments down below.
• 55:24
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• 55:31
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• 55:32
  SPEAKER_03: All right, man.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_03: Well, once again, man, another week, AJ, and another proposal for Major League Baseball.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, absolutely.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um Major League Baseball just made they just made a major another move in this salary cap battle, which has just been this kind of ongoing whirlwind.
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, so recently they proposed to delay the implementation of a salary cap um and floor until 2028.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_01: But let's be clear, MLB isn't backing away from the salary cap.
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_01: All they are doing is giving teams more time to prepare for a salary cap or salary floor.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_01: How nice of them.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the latest proposal includes a$180.2 million salary floor and a$258.2 million salary cap.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_01: MLB says this is about competitive balance, Darren.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_01: Isn't don't you just love we keep hearing competitive balance?
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_01: But the players association believes that it is an attempt to limit players' salaries and protect ownership profits.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_01: I am curious to hear your thoughts on that.
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_01: With the collective bargaining agreement expiring December 1st and another lockout very much looming.
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um I mean, my question is small market teams, Milwaukee, Tampa Bay, we keep talking about this.
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_01: They can compete with the Dodgers, Yankees, you know, with what's in place right now.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_01: You know, does baseball need a salary cap?
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_01: What are your thoughts on this proposed salary cap delay, Darren?
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so first off, I want to talk, I want to bring up one thing that absolutely nobody's talking about when it comes to this, right?
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so there are a few talk talk takeaways.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_03: The first one for me, AJ, is gonna be um we've talked a lot about how most players are going to want to sign a deal before the lockout, right?
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_03: Uh getting their deal done in the books during the current CBA and not for the next one, right?
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_03: That's basically what we're seeing.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_03: That's basically what we were expecting.
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_03: Well, AJ, with this proposal, it basically states that that doesn't matter.
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_03: Your team will need to be in compliance with the salary cap by 2028, regardless of those contracts that you have on the books right now.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_03: So that means, AJ, that currently there are eight teams that need to cut their payroll at the by the beginning of the 2028 season.
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_03: Those are the Cubs, the Red Sox, the Padres, the Blue Jays, the Phillies, the Yankees, the Mets, and the Dodgers will all have to cut their payroll to get to the projected cap of 258.2 million.
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_03: So when we're talking about this whole free agent signs, frenzy so they can get underneath the CBA, they just basically came out and just said right in there, right now, that's not the case.
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_03: You will need to be compliant.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_03: Every team will need to be compliant with a new salary cap by the beginning of the 2028 season, which is something I don't think people are making enough noise about.
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_03: Because that to me, that's huge.
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_01: It is, it is, it plays a ton into what this season, what this next season is going to be, and and and how much influence that would have in major league baseball and major league baseball in general is ridiculous.
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like, oh hey, you guys, you're over the cap.
• 58:34
  unknown: Yeah.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_01: Go ahead and slash some salary.
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, with the nine players the Dodgers have on payroll right now, we still wouldn't actually even be underneath that 258 million.
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, and so you're you're what forced to trade somebody because they're they're they're not doing like a um luxury tax or anything like that, right?
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_03: No, it's not there's not a there's not a like uh any type of grandfathering anybody in there's none of this.
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_03: They are basically and maybe some of the deferred salary, we haven't heard anything on that yet, which is interesting.
• 59:03
  SPEAKER_03: The fact that they haven't mentioned that yet.
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_03: They've literally mentioned everything else.
• 59:05
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you know why they can't mention deferred salaries though.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_01: Because Shohe Otani is on a deferred salary, and he is the face of major league baseball right now.
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_01: So, what are you what are you going to do?
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_01: Are you going to talk about deferred salaries and piss off every single major league baseball fan across the world?
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_03: I guess most major league baseball fans are really against the whole deferred salary, even though I guarantee you your team has some deferred salaries on it.
• 59:28
  SPEAKER_03: But my point is here is AJ is they they've had re increased uh growth in the sport of at least 4% year over year over the last four seasons.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_03: Apparently, the MLB Players Association and not necessarily the Players Association, but more the MLB itself and its owners don't really give a rip about pissing off the fans or ruining their products.
• 59:49
  SPEAKER_03: They are going to implement a lockout and they're going to tank that growth overnight.
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_03: And it's going to be really, really sad to see.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_03: My second point, AJ, is that the cap is going to be subject to revenue, right?
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_03: Uh meaning that as revenue goes up, salaries will go up.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_03: The salary cap will go up too, right?
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_03: If the baseball is at a bad year in revenue, salaries will drop.
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_03: Salary cap will drop, right?
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_03: That sounds fair, right?
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_01: No, that sounds a hundred percent, one hundred percent changed for owners.
• 1:00:17
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:00:17
  SPEAKER_01: Well so that their valuations don't change as salary fluctuates.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_03: I I really like where you're going with that, but let me kind of go into where I think that's actually gonna be the problem, right?
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_03: So, you know, if the salaries go up, right, the salary cap goes up, right?
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_03: So, like if revenue goes up, salary cap goes up, right?
• 1:00:32
  SPEAKER_03: And if if salary goes if revenue goes down, then you know salary cap's gonna go down for that year.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_03: That seems fair, that seems logical.
• 1:00:40
  SPEAKER_03: However, who's doing the reporting on Major League Baseball's revenue?
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_01: Major League Baseball.
• 1:00:46
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_03: So are you think they're gonna go against their own self-interest to keep their numbers honest?
• 1:00:51
  SPEAKER_03: No, AJ.
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think they will.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_03: We already have how many teams that are crying poor every single year when if you pay any attention to this, you will know that Major League Baseball starts their season with 100 million, every team starts with$100 million in the bank before a single ticket is punched.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_03: They are already in the black there before the season even starts when it comes to the shared revenue.
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_03: You know, the Dodgers are paying$150 million in luxury tax payments that goes out to every other team, right?
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_03: So the fact that they're complaining about this kind of stuff and crying poor, what do you think is gonna happen when they're gonna when it's like, oh, okay, well, we had record revenues, but you know, obviously with the cost of everything going up and inflation, the light bill was a little more expensive this year.
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_03: We really didn't make as much money as we thought we did.
• 1:01:36
  SPEAKER_03: Concessions are down because we marked up the hot dog to$35 a dog, you know.
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_03: So like all this stuff is gonna start piling up and they're gonna have every excuse in the book to basically just lie about the numbers.
• 1:01:47
  SPEAKER_03: They already do it, so that's my other concern on this one, is that they're trying to tie it in fairness.
• 1:01:53
  SPEAKER_03: If everybody's being honest and being fair and actually caring about putting out a quality product, this wouldn't be a problem.
• 1:01:59
  SPEAKER_03: But unfortunately, half of the coin doesn't want to do that.
• 1:02:02
  SPEAKER_01: But but also, if you're talking salary cap jumps, they would have to put some sort of cap on how much that can jump, right?
• 1:02:09
  SPEAKER_01: Because is that going to go up 50 million in one season and then down 50 million in another season?
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_01: Because that is that is cutting a whole player's salary annually, right?
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, they're like, hey, we had a really good year last year.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_01: Last year wasn't as great.
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_01: You six teams need to cut somebody.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_03: Or like maybe they do what a lot of the NBA does with their contracts and say your contract's tied to the percentage of the salary cap.
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and but and obviously the players are never going to agree to that.
• 1:02:39
  SPEAKER_03: No, see, that's the other part, is the language of the statement that MLB's representatives seems to be making is that it's clear that the salary cap is going to be part of baseball going forward, whether we want it or not.
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_03: Every single one of their proposals have mentioned it.
• 1:02:51
  SPEAKER_03: There seems to be a hard line in the sand.
• 1:02:53
  SPEAKER_03: Major League Baseball Players Association made their highlight hard line in the sand on this one, too, where they said they're not agreeing to any salary cap of any kind, which is you know scary.
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's terrifying.
• 1:03:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:03:06
  SPEAKER_03: We got a couple comments here we want to hit on that one, uh, McKinley.
• 1:03:10
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I like this.
• 1:03:11
  SPEAKER_03: It's about what we were talking about previously, but still got to go up.
• 1:03:14
  SPEAKER_03: Uh McKinley Cutler, uh, changed my opinion.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_03: Top three is cursed.
• 1:03:18
  SPEAKER_03: Utah is definitely losing.
• 1:03:20
  SPEAKER_01: Disagree.
• 1:03:22
  SPEAKER_03: We got a comment here from uh real Zachary Roy.
• 1:03:24
  SPEAKER_03: What up, gents?
• 1:03:25
  SPEAKER_03: This isn't fun.
• 1:03:27
  SPEAKER_03: Uh that's either you're talking about what we're talking about or it's talking about the Utah Jazz video.
• 1:03:31
  SPEAKER_01: It's gotta be Utah Jazz, man.
• 1:03:32
  SPEAKER_01: And you're right, it's not fun.
• 1:03:34
  SPEAKER_01: But um you'll have to go back and watch the Utah Jazz video because we we've got to be.
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_01: We were right there with you.
• 1:03:39
  SPEAKER_01: We were right there with you.
• 1:03:39
  SPEAKER_01: We spilled our hearts for you, buddy.
• 1:03:41
  SPEAKER_01: Appreciate you tuning in though.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we got a comment here from Temi Price, friend of the channel.
• 1:03:44
  SPEAKER_03: Uh exactly, uh exactly.
• 1:03:46
  SPEAKER_03: They hide revenue numbers now.
• 1:03:48
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly, they do.
• 1:03:48
  SPEAKER_01: It's really it's not helping anything.
• 1:03:50
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, hmm, we'll tell you what the revenue numbers were.
• 1:03:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we'll honestly report it, right?
• 1:03:55
  SPEAKER_03: You know, school being down and all, you know.
• 1:03:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the CEO definitely got a$50 million raise last year, so that brought revenue numbers way down.
• 1:04:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and we're gonna need everyone to cut$10 million off their salary tomorrow.
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the$100 million that we got had to go into the minor league's uh front office uh staff's buildings.
• 1:04:11
  SPEAKER_03: We had to put a you know swimming pool in the executive's uh suite there.
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, prices minor league baseball's a tough league.
• 1:04:17
  SPEAKER_03: It really is, it really is.
• 1:04:19
  SPEAKER_03: For me, AJ, man.
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_03: Uh the only criticism I have on this one, and this one's gonna be pointed towards the Players Association.
• 1:04:24
  SPEAKER_03: At this point, man, all they're doing is releasing statements to Major League Baseball's proposals.
• 1:04:30
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, ever since their first one before this, they did release a proposal, right?
• 1:04:34
  SPEAKER_03: And ever since then, since MLB have countered, all they've done is release statements against striking that down, saying you're not you're not our you're not um negotiating in good faith with what you're saying here, so we're just not even gonna we're not even gonna talk, right?
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think that's the problem, you know.
• 1:04:50
  SPEAKER_03: Well, let's not wait for the lockout to be here.
• 1:04:52
  SPEAKER_03: Let's get our hands, let's get our hands dirty here, M L B PA.
• 1:04:56
  SPEAKER_03: Let's get it, let's sit in the room.
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_01: The players association is losing the press battle in this one for sure.
• 1:05:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, they're allowing they're allowing the major league baseball to control it.
• 1:05:05
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, and also they're just simply just not doing anything to help their situation, right?
• 1:05:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 1:05:10
  SPEAKER_03: If you want to play baseball games, you can't be the person sitting on the side of the dance floor with your arms folded, not unwilling to dance until you start to hear the tune that you want to hear, right?
• 1:05:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 1:05:20
  SPEAKER_03: Uh you not are not negotiating at all.
• 1:05:23
  SPEAKER_03: Propose something, counter something, do something because AJ, the clock is ticking.
• 1:05:29
  SPEAKER_03: Sure is.
• 1:05:30
  SPEAKER_01: Sure is.
• 1:05:31
  SPEAKER_01: October's over.
• 1:05:32
  SPEAKER_01: We're in November now, and baseball is supposed to start in four months.
• 1:05:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:37
  SPEAKER_03: Well, we'll see.
• 1:05:38
  SPEAKER_03: We'll see.
• 1:05:39
  SPEAKER_03: Speaking of the clocks ticking, AJ, let's go ahead and jump into some free agency chatter, shall we?
• 1:05:42
  SPEAKER_01: Let's do it.
• 1:05:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:05:44
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, the first I I think the first big free agent that we we kind of wanted to talk about, and then we kind of picked one from each one of our teams that we wanted to discuss.
• 1:05:52
  SPEAKER_01: But the first one, uh, you know, during during the week, I I I asked the question where does Tarek Scooball end up?
• 1:05:59
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, he's a number one free agent, obviously.
• 1:06:02
  SPEAKER_01: You know, had a had a pretty successful season with the Dodgers, not as successful for Dodgers fans, but um, you know, at 30 years old.
• 1:06:09
  SPEAKER_03: And the Tigers, he was only in there for like what?
• 1:06:11
  SPEAKER_03: He only had like what five starts for the Dodgers.
• 1:06:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:06:13
  SPEAKER_03: So he had a good year with the Tigers.
• 1:06:15
  SPEAKER_01: Had a good season.
• 1:06:16
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he had what 2.72 ERA and 26 starts.
• 1:06:19
  SPEAKER_01: That's not bad.
• 1:06:20
  SPEAKER_01: Not a bad.
• 1:06:21
  SPEAKER_03: That's not bad at all.
• 1:06:21
  SPEAKER_03: So wouldn't kick that out of bed.
• 1:06:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh, you know, two time rate two-time American League Cy Young Award winner.
• 1:06:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um is the most valuable player available this offseason, and he's he's absolutely in a position to challenge Yoshinobu Yamamoto's$325 million pitching contract.
• 1:06:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um Yankees, Mets, Cubs, Padres are all among the teams that are kind of reportedly monitoring his market value.
• 1:06:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um what do you think?
• 1:06:54
  SPEAKER_01: Did do the Dodgers try to resign this guy?
• 1:06:56
  SPEAKER_01: Where does he end up?
• 1:06:57
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I actually do.
• 1:06:57
  SPEAKER_03: I absolutely do believe the Dodgers will try and resign this guy.
• 1:07:00
  SPEAKER_03: And I absolutely do.
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and I honestly don't think their contract value is gonna be less than anybody else's.
• 1:07:07
  SPEAKER_03: I just think the difference is gonna be how they structure it, and we'll see and we'll talk about that.
• 1:07:10
  SPEAKER_03: Side note, before we get to that, AJ, something I want to ask you, and this is this is in for the chat for you guys as well.
• 1:07:17
  SPEAKER_03: Uh let us know in the comments down below if you're watching live, appreciate it.
• 1:07:20
  SPEAKER_03: Jump in the chat, let us know what your thoughts are on this.
• 1:07:22
  SPEAKER_03: And if you're watching this live on YouTube, jump in the comments because I want to hear it.
• 1:07:27
  SPEAKER_03: What do you think of prediction markets giving us stats over like the standard sports books and stuff like that, odds bet odds makers out there?
• 1:07:39
  SPEAKER_03: Because I what I'm seeing in this AJ is I'm seeing things like Calchi and Polymarket saying, like, these are like you're not competing against the house, you're competing against other people.
• 1:07:49
  SPEAKER_03: You're competing against the common folk that may not be the best baseball fans out there.
• 1:07:54
  SPEAKER_03: What do you think when it comes to using prediction markets as a way of evaluating the statistical outcomes of potentials versus the standard bookmakers?
• 1:08:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I think it is risky business because standard bookmakers, as crazy as some of their predictions may seem to look on paper, they get it right a lot.
• 1:08:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:15
  SPEAKER_03: You know, look to Utah Jazz DNA and some of our predictions against what the house was on that one.
• 1:08:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:08:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:08:20
  SPEAKER_03: But anyway, man, I just want to say that because when it comes to this, uh, this is coming from some a couple of prediction markets.
• 1:08:25
  SPEAKER_03: Obviously, right now the Mets are still, according to prediction markets, the head option of over 50% odds of winning the Terry Scuball sweepstakes.
• 1:08:35
  SPEAKER_03: I think that percentage is ridiculously high.
• 1:08:37
  SPEAKER_03: 50% is a little too high for me.
• 1:08:40
  SPEAKER_03: The Dodgers are coming in second at 25%, and then the Cubs are third at 18%, according to at the time of recording.
• 1:08:47
  SPEAKER_03: However, the New York New York Yankees have been seated as a top candidate as they are making a late push as they're rumored to be the heavy pursuant of the two-time Cy Young two-timer AJ.
• 1:09:00
  SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah, I don't know, man.
• 1:09:02
  SPEAKER_03: I think the Dodgers, what the Dodgers are gonna go with is they're gonna go with a$300 million contract, and they're gonna offer it to him five years.
• 1:09:13
  SPEAKER_01: So you think they're gonna offer him less than they offered Yamoto?
• 1:09:16
  SPEAKER_03: No, because well, yeah, I think they're gonna offer him.
• 1:09:19
  SPEAKER_03: Let me resate, let me rephrase that.
• 1:09:21
  SPEAKER_03: So I think what they're gonna offer him is they're gonna offer him sixty million dollars a year on a short-term deal.
• 1:09:25
  SPEAKER_03: So they're gonna offer him a four-year, sixty million dollar contract.
• 1:09:29
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I think the Dodgers are gonna offer, which is gonna be pretty much what they're gonna offer, what ABA is gonna offer them on a six to seven year contract.
• 1:09:36
  SPEAKER_01: Right, because Gamamoto's is a lot longer contract.
• 1:09:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, his is a 12-year deal.
• 1:09:39
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, 325 on 12.
• 1:09:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:09:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:09:41
  SPEAKER_01: So he's making like 300.
• 1:09:44
  SPEAKER_01: Is what you're thinking.
• 1:09:45
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
• 1:09:45
  SPEAKER_03: So I think the AAV is gonna be double.
• 1:09:47
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I think he's gonna offer the Dodgers gonna do exactly what they did with uh Kyle Tucker.
• 1:09:52
  SPEAKER_03: They're gonna offer him a ridiculously high AAV.
• 1:09:54
  SPEAKER_03: They're gonna give him the same high, same high AAV, but on a shorter term deal.
• 1:09:58
  SPEAKER_03: That way, if he wants to re-enter free agency in three years and you know, and go for that another bag, they're gonna offer him the opportunity to go so now.
• 1:10:05
  SPEAKER_03: Does he take that?
• 1:10:06
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 1:10:07
  SPEAKER_01: I I think it'll be really interesting to see kind of where Tarek Scuball's mind is, right?
• 1:10:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um, does he want to go somewhere that he can get paid or does he want to go somewhere that he can win?
• 1:10:17
  SPEAKER_01: Because why not do both?
• 1:10:19
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
• 1:10:21
  SPEAKER_03: Dodgers will give you both.
• 1:10:22
  SPEAKER_03: And then in three years.
• 1:10:30
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know, man.
• 1:10:31
  SPEAKER_03: I I think if the Dodgers offer you$60 million on a four-year deal, you're gonna take that versus you know 30 million dollars.
• 1:10:37
  SPEAKER_03: Versus the Mets versus 35 over five.
• 1:10:39
  SPEAKER_03: 35 million over six or seven, which the call total contract may be worth more.
• 1:10:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but you know, but but I I I think you're right though.
• 1:10:46
  SPEAKER_01: I think there's more value into entering free agency at age 35 versus entering free agency in age 37.
• 1:10:54
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:10:55
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 1:10:55
  SPEAKER_01: Like there's not very many, and I always have to throw my guy out there in every single episode.
• 1:11:00
  SPEAKER_01: There's not very many Chris Tails out there that are going to have an uh a great season past age 3637.
• 1:11:08
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:11:08
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 1:11:09
  SPEAKER_01: And and Tarek Scuball throws hard and he's been really effective for the last couple of years, obviously winning multiple Cy Young awards.
• 1:11:16
  SPEAKER_01: You've got to be concerned that you know, at at age 36, 37, you're not going to get the contract value that may be looking at.
• 1:11:23
  SPEAKER_01: So do you do you try to get into free agency a little bit sooner and push for one more big contract, you know, or one more contract?
• 1:11:29
  SPEAKER_01: 150 million, 200 million dollar contract.
• 1:11:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:11:33
  SPEAKER_03: I think I think that's exactly what you do.
• 1:11:35
  SPEAKER_03: Because honestly, I mean the Mets are gonna need more than Tarek Scuball.
• 1:11:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like if they sign a lot more.
• 1:11:40
  SPEAKER_03: If they sign Tarek Scuball, there's gonna they're gonna need a lot more than him.
• 1:11:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, and they already have Juan Soto, you know, they're paying 985 bazillion dollars, right?
• 1:11:49
  SPEAKER_03: None of it deferred, yeah.
• 1:11:50
  SPEAKER_03: Like I did that team, no favors, and they're known to be dysfunctional in the locker room, known to you know, they missed the playoffs, what, two years out of the last five?
• 1:11:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and they have one of the top five payrolls in baseball.
• 1:12:01
  SPEAKER_03: Like, if you want to win, if winning's important and getting paid's important, there's one team that's gonna give you both.
• 1:12:08
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:12:09
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, he's gotta look at it.
• 1:12:11
  SPEAKER_01: He's gotta look at it.
• 1:12:12
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, and then there's gonna be other teams like the Yankees that are obviously gonna pay you as well, but wherever Aaron Judge goes, that team goes, right?
• 1:12:19
  SPEAKER_01: So and you saw that this year, yeah, exactly.
• 1:12:22
  SPEAKER_03: You know, it's it's really kind of tough.
• 1:12:23
  SPEAKER_03: So you want to hear we want to hear from you folks so let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below when it comes to this situation, when it comes to Terry Scooball, where do you think he ends up?
• 1:12:31
  SPEAKER_03: What contract do you think he takes?
• 1:12:32
  SPEAKER_03: Do you agree with me when it comes to that the Dodgers are gonna offer a ridiculously high AAV on a short-term deal that's going to be, you know, in comparison to the Kyle Tucker contract, or do you see him taking something like a long-term deal with the Mets?
• 1:12:44
  SPEAKER_03: We want to hear from you.
• 1:12:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yep, absolutely.
• 1:12:46
  SPEAKER_03: All right, so we want to go ahead and jump in.
• 1:12:48
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna let you lead on this one on some of our key free agents.
• 1:12:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:12:52
  SPEAKER_01: So the next key free agent that I wanted to talk about was uh my guy, um Mauricio Dubon, who just he had such a good defensive season, um ended up winning the utility gold glove uh for the Braves this year.
• 1:13:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um he's 32 years old and uh you know traded from the Astros last year.
• 1:13:09
  SPEAKER_01: Just just played great everywhere we put him.
• 1:13:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um he's kind of he's kind of one of those players that you just can't beat his versatility to play seconds.
• 1:13:17
  SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
• 1:13:18
  SPEAKER_03: Who did he get?
• 1:13:19
  SPEAKER_03: Who did he which team did you get him from?
• 1:13:22
  SPEAKER_01: The Trashros.
• 1:13:23
  SPEAKER_03: There you go.
• 1:13:23
  SPEAKER_03: Sorry, my apologies.
• 1:13:24
  SPEAKER_03: My apologies.
• 1:13:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:13:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but just just one of those players you can't beat his versatility, right?
• 1:13:29
  SPEAKER_01: Play second, short, he can play anywhere in the outfield.
• 1:13:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, even played some third base.
• 1:13:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like the guy can just go anywhere.
• 1:13:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um he's not he's not a huge offensive upgrade.
• 1:13:39
  SPEAKER_01: Like Marie Mauricio Dubon had some good at bats for us, um, had some key moments where he came up with a hit when we needed one, but the defensive flexibility that he offers um is something that is just second to none.
• 1:13:52
  SPEAKER_01: And and to win that gold glove just says everything about what he did for the Braves this year.
• 1:13:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um the Braves got a decision to make, you know.
• 1:13:59
  SPEAKER_01: I think I think they've got to try to get this guy re-signed.
• 1:14:01
  SPEAKER_01: They need they need Dubon at shortstop.
• 1:14:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they've really struggled at shortstop over the last couple of years.
• 1:14:06
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we were looking at the MLB list, and like four of the eight guys on there had played for the Braves, and it was like Jorge Solaire, um Haas Young Kim, DuBon was on there, who's the last one?
• 1:14:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, anyways, there a bunch of them, right?
• 1:14:22
  SPEAKER_01: So the Braves have just they've had this this carousel of rotating shortstops, and they haven't been able to find one that's been super effective that that they really could just lean on defensively.
• 1:14:31
  SPEAKER_01: The rest of their infield is really good.
• 1:14:33
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, having you know Matt Olsen at first, who also just won a gold glove.
• 1:14:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um, obviously obviously Ozzy Albies at second, you know, he's solid.
• 1:14:43
  SPEAKER_01: He's just he's just solid every single year.
• 1:14:45
  SPEAKER_01: The shortstop's really been our our our our our our blind spot, right?
• 1:14:50
  SPEAKER_01: And we went out and got Hasian Kim thinking, hey, the guy's a great defensive shortstop.
• 1:14:54
  SPEAKER_01: He played terrible.
• 1:14:56
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he didn't even play defensively great.
• 1:14:58
  SPEAKER_01: His bat was worthless.
• 1:14:59
  SPEAKER_01: They could have given him uh like a pixie stick out there and he would have hit the exact same percentage that he hit.
• 1:15:05
  SPEAKER_01: The dude was just bad.
• 1:15:07
  SPEAKER_01: So um the Braves have got to bring gotta bring Duban back.
• 1:15:11
  SPEAKER_01: I hope he doesn't end up anywhere but in, you know, I hope the Braves give him a four or five year deal.
• 1:15:15
  SPEAKER_01: I understand he's 32 years old, but give him four or five years, pay him 10 million a year, and go get the guy that you can you can lean on to to rotate in and out of all these utility positions.
• 1:15:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you can move him over to second if if he gets a little too long of the tooth, you know.
• 1:15:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:15:29
  SPEAKER_03: You know, he can't handle the you know, shortstop after a while.
• 1:15:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I love that idea.
• 1:15:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, give him a five-year deal, keep him there for sure.
• 1:15:35
  SPEAKER_03: I like it.
• 1:15:36
  SPEAKER_03: We want to hear from you folks.
• 1:15:36
  SPEAKER_03: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below when it comes to that.
• 1:15:39
  SPEAKER_03: Um, my player that I'm gonna be picking there, AJ, is gonna be one that's gonna be familiar with his channel, as we have brought him up often, which is ironically, was the first time that this player was brought up, was actually brought up by you and he wasn't even a Dodger.
• 1:15:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he brought up Kike Hernandez when he was with the Boston Red Sox when he had three errors in a single game, um, which basically proved the fact that he's probably not an everyday player.
• 1:15:59
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, did not have his best year, but did ball out for them in the postseason.
• 1:16:02
  SPEAKER_03: And yeah, my guy again is Kike Hernandez.
• 1:16:05
  SPEAKER_03: He's an unrestricted free agent.
• 1:16:06
  SPEAKER_03: Now, in the past, you a lot of folks have just assumed that Kike would be with the Dodgers.
• 1:16:10
  SPEAKER_03: He'd reassign with the team no matter what.
• 1:16:12
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, the only real thing was whether or not they had a roster spot ready for him, you know, in the in with the 60-day like the CDIL and all that stuff cleared up and whether or not the numbers worked for him, right?
• 1:16:22
  SPEAKER_03: You just knew that Kike was going to be a Dodger.
• 1:16:25
  SPEAKER_03: The Dodgers and Kike go together.
• 1:16:27
  SPEAKER_03: Um, he's known as Keek Tober for most Dodgers fans.
• 1:16:30
  SPEAKER_03: Um, he's been a mid to below average player, but really turns it on in the postseason.
• 1:16:34
  SPEAKER_03: Um, really has helps the Dodgers.
• 1:16:37
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but again, um he is a year older and he's had a terrible regular season this last year, real with injuries.
• 1:16:45
  SPEAKER_03: And this postseason, while he did have some key at bass to hit a home run in the postseason, um, he's definitely not making up for it uh for his lack of ability to perform in the regular season in the postseason.
• 1:16:55
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so I think the Dodgers may be looking elsewhere for a utility guy this year.
• 1:16:59
  SPEAKER_03: Now that doesn't mean the Dodgers are going to close the door on Kike Hernandez.
• 1:17:02
  SPEAKER_03: Andrew Friedman did say, was famous for saying, the door will never be closed on Kike.
• 1:17:07
  SPEAKER_03: And with Miguel Rojas uh retiring, uh you may need a guy like uh Kike.
• 1:17:13
  SPEAKER_03: Uh internal options like Tommy Edman, who are still under contract.
• 1:17:16
  SPEAKER_03: We also have a a Kim under contract as well.
• 1:17:20
  SPEAKER_03: You know, maybe the decision to move on from utility guy like Kike Renez will be internally.
• 1:17:25
  SPEAKER_03: But then again, AJ, maybe not.
• 1:17:27
  SPEAKER_03: The Dodgers have been connected with rumors uh for an outside target.
• 1:17:30
  SPEAKER_03: According to DodgersNation.com, Yahoo Sports, and Belize report, the Dodgers have been linked to Mauricio Dubon.
• 1:17:39
  SPEAKER_01: I knew you were gonna say that.
• 1:17:41
  SPEAKER_01: You know what's funny is I actually saw this article when researching this, and I was like, I will kill someone.
• 1:17:51
  SPEAKER_01: But I mean it can you blame the Dodgers?
• 1:17:54
  SPEAKER_01: He just won a gold glove as a utility player.
• 1:17:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and if you know you're gonna outbid a team, the Braves are definitely a team that you know you're gonna be able to outbit.
• 1:18:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:18:02
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, I don't know.
• 1:18:03
  SPEAKER_03: I thought it'd be funny.
• 1:18:04
  SPEAKER_03: Wanted to end it on that note because I just thought it was funny.
• 1:18:08
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, we'll probably do another episode where we talk about all the players that we know that are not gonna join our team.
• 1:18:12
  SPEAKER_03: We want to hear from you folks.
• 1:18:13
  SPEAKER_03: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below when it comes to your team.
• 1:18:16
  SPEAKER_03: Who's a key free agent that you feel like your team needs to resign or uh one that you feel like needs to be let go?
• 1:18:23
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, we want to hear from you, let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
• 1:18:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yep, absolutely.
• 1:18:27
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• 1:18:32
  SPEAKER_03: With all that said, my name is Darren.
• 1:18:34
  SPEAKER_03: That is AJ, and this has been an episode of the DNA sports recap.
• 1:18:37
  SPEAKER_01: Till next time, guys.