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NFL Week 15 Recap, Big Injuries, Dane Mizutani talks Vikings & Wild & Scott Reister on the KCCI Toys for Tots Drive · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  All right, good afternoon. Welcome, Miller and Condon on a
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  Tuesday, The Iowa Sports Radio Network back at it for the next
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  6 hours, two of which will be manned by Trent Condon and
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  myself, Kevin Miller. We will take you until 2 off the
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  bench, coming up two until 5:00 and then overtime.
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  Iowa. Here's what's coming up on our
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  program today. We're going to check in with our
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  friend from the Twin Cities, Dame Moussutani covers the
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  Vikings. Vikings are the playoffs, but I
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  think their story is still valid here locally.
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  A lot of interest, obviously in the quarterback in the steps
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  that he seemingly is taken. They'll be on the road against
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  the Giants and then they finish in the division, right?
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  They've got the Lions, and then are they the Bears final
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  opponent of the Packers? No, the Lions and Bears play the
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  final week of the year. So we will be the Packers.
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  Oh, it's the Christmas afternoon game against the Lions.
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  Lions in the middle of the afternoon, 330 for that one.
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  OK, well, we're going to talk about the Vikings.
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  We'll talk today. And he was in Dallas on Sunday
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  night. We'll get his take.
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  And this Scott Reister, our sports director over at KCCI
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  Reister, Fred Jackson, what a nice long NFL career.
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  And of course, Santa's going to be there as well.
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  So we'll get the Scott Reister in here to help him promote that
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  at about 10 minutes before 1:00. Then Elliot Clough, he's up
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  next. We'll talk Hawks with Elliot at
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  1:00. And then Bill Bender on college
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  football 130. Trump will make some play circus
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  sports sponsor those and we will make way for off the bench with
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  Lucas and Sean. So another week of the NFL has
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  come and we've gone. We've closed the books on Week
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  15 with a a cold Monday night or last night as the Dolphins fall
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  to Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh now back on top in
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  the AFC North. You know, when you look at these
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  divisions, as I was last night or during the game, because the
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  game was brutal, really was Tagliovo, they got a problem.
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  There he is. They had Justin Herbert.
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  We can say there's a lot of times.
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  Right, but you do that too much. Sure, but they could have, and
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  they decided to go with him and they have to be well, not
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  pleased with their decision. He's awful.
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  He is not good. Aaron Rodgers, I don't want to
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  say he's turning back time, but looked pretty darn good last
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  night. It was adequate last night.
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  Not putting up the numbers. Obviously in his prime if you do
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  at his age. But the Steelers, look, I give
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  them absolutely no chance if they get in.
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  I just don't see it right now. They would play, they would be
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  the four seed. So they'd be looking at a five
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  seed and Los Angeles Chargers come on down.
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  So we'll we'll see. There's a lot of a lot of work
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  left to be done in the AFC West, but last night's game was a
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  stinker. But but back to my original
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  point, I was looking at the divisions and trying to figure
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  out the playoffs, etcetera. There's I think you can make a
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  case that seven of these 8 divisions are still up for grabs
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  and the one I'm not putting up is the NFC East, 'cause I think
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  the Eagle, I don't see the Eagles winning out.
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  I don't see the Cowboys winning out.
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  Eagles have to lose every game. That's not going to happen.
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  Cowboys have to win every game. I doubt that that's going to.
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  Happen. You don't see the Commanders
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  getting the Eagles twice. How far back are they?
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  It would take that. It does take the Eagles losing
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  out in the Cowboys. Winning and Daniels is done.
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  Yes, he's OK. Yeah, he's OK.
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  No, I don't. I don't see that happening.
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  But the other divisions, they're wide open.
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  Aren't they now? Wide open.
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  But the Bills are only a game back.
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  Baltimore and Pittsburgh still have to play each other again.
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  That's a game separating those two.
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  Houston, don't look now. They've one game behind
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  Jacksonville. Denver's a couple of games up on
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  the Chargers. They still have yet to play.
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  Denver's doesn't have an easy schedule, though.
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  We've got a little softer with Bohm's injury news.
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  They've got the Jags this weekend and then on the road, on
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  the road to Kansas City before playing the Chargers in Week 18.
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  Philadelphia, I think that one's over.
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  Your Bears are in front, but they have a huge game Saturday
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  night. Tampa and Carolina are are are
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  actually tied and they'll play two of the three final weeks.
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  How about that for the schedule and then the Rams.
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  This is a three team race out West I think.
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  Oh, absolutely. I I don't see how you can.
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  We know one of the two teams is going to take a loss in two
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  days. Yeah.
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  So all right, put that in there. Now, of course, you go the other
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  way. One of the two teams is going to
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  get a win, but the 49ers schedule the rest of the way
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  sets up in a way where I think absolutely, as I said, a game
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  back in the division. Can they go 3 and O?
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  Well, it starts at Indianapolis against.
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  Philip Rivers, right? Yeah.
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  And that's one. Is that Monday night?
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  That is Monday. Night.
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  Monday night, yeah, I'll give them I.
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  This seems like a win to me. Then the following Sunday night,
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  they welcome in the Bears. That's.
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  A back-to-back prime timer for the Niners.
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  I love it. Sunday night against the Bears
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  at home, Niners or what? Point and a half, 2 1/2 point
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  favorite, something like that. And then you wrap up at home
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  against Seattle. Oh boy, what a game.
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  That might be where NBC is. Yes, absolutely.
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  There's so many maturations of this schedule at this point.
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  There are so many directions. It does this feel, it feels like
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  at this point, normally we haven't narrowed down to a
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  couple of games you'd point to, if you like, it's going to be
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  one of these, maybe 3. Right.
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  One of these eight, I mean, what do you look at the Week 18
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  schedule? Let me get it in front of me
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  here. What could be on the line?
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  We talked about the bears and lions.
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  And what we're talking about is NBCS going to flex a game to
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  Sunday night. The Sunday Nighter game.
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  What is the what's the number? It's the final game of the year
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  and it's game. Game 256 does that.
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  And I think it might be higher now because we got 17 games.
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  But yeah, yeah. But that final game of the
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  season, Lions, Bears, absolutely could be, could be a winning in,
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  losing out. Those are the games that they
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  love. Packers.
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  Vikings. Probably not.
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  No. Dolphins.
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  Patriots. No.
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  No. Titans, Jags.
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  No. No.
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  Panthers. Bucks, Absolutely.
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  But you know what? That's the least attractive.
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  It is national recognition. But you're right.
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  I mean, if they're forced to take it, Yep.
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  Yep, that's true. Cardinals.
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  Rams. Probably not.
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  No. Colts.
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  Texans. Possibly.
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  Maybe. There's a maybe there Eagles,
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  Commanders, No. Cowboys Giants, No.
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  Browns Bengals, No. Saints.
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  Falcons Highlight No. No.
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  Raven Steelers? Yes, that went on the list,
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  absolutely. Jets.
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  Bills. Probably not, no.
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  Because you want both teams. Chiefs, Raiders, cross it off
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  Chargers, Broncos, absolutely. That's five.
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  And then Seahawks, Niners. So that's a half dozen games
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  that all could have major ramifications either division
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  could be. In in.
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  Seeding. Playoff positioning.
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  By for the one. Seed and there's been I believe
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  two different times where they haven't flexed because there
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  have been there's a 2 or. One I remember 1/2, has it been
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  2? Because the last time it
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  happened, we went back and we looked and there was another
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  time that it had happened, yes. And that's the only reason I
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  remember that because I had a faint memory of it happening.
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  I don't know what the new TV contracts now, if it's an
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  automatic now, if they regardless, we're going to get
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  one of these. But regardless of that, it has
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  happened. Not going to be the case this
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  year. There's going to be something
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  with some huge ramifications. The Kansas City Chiefs there's
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  there's conflicting reports. Do you follow the the NFL former
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  doctor on Twitter? I don't, but I see him.
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  I see him. You're right, I see him a ton.
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  I want to get it's it's Pro Football.
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  Let me forget his actual pro Pro Football doc.
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  And this is this guy's resume. Ex NFL head team doctor for 17
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  plus years. So he's been, you know, on the
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  sidelines. He believes that Mahomes tore
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  both his ACL and his is it LCL lateral collateral ligament and
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  the with with Mahomes having two ligaments that were torn.
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  You know what, let me just send this to you.
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  It's a minute and 30 seconds. I'm going to direct message this
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  to you. Let me just send this right to
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  the right to you so we can hear from the doctor himself and
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  rather than me try and explain it.
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  Because he believes that there's a chance that Mahomes isn't
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  going to be back until maybe even the 2027 season because
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  it's a 2 lateral 2 ligaments were torn.
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  And the fact is he is under the impression it's his professional
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  opinion that the reason Mahomes underwent surgery as quickly as
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  he did because this just wasn't a stand alone ACL.
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  You know, your run-of-the-mill ACL.
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  He thinks that this one was actually 2 ligaments being torn.
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  And for that reason, he's very concerned that Mahomes aid.
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  He might be able to, you know, get back on the field.
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  But if he does, as you're going to hear in the sound bite, it
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  may be Patrick Mahomes pocket passer, and that's not his
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  strength. Do you have a trend?
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  I think I have the right one here.
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  Twitter's giving me problems, but yes, I think I have it all
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  right. Confirmation of our suspected
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  LCL injury for Patrick Mahomes means the Chief season will be
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  significantly impacted in 2026. There is no way for him to be
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  100% healthy for the start of next season.
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  This is doctor David Chow at sports injury central.
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  The lateral collateral ligament and the ACL confirms it was a
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  multi ligament knee injury and that's why repair was done early
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  the day after the tear itself. The comp here is Carson Wentz in
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  2017 initially reported his ACL then later confirmed his LCL as
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  well. He underwent surgery a couple
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  days after his December injury when he was with the Eagles.
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  I'm not suggesting it will derail Mahomes career, like it
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  in some ways derailed Carson Wentz's career, but once even
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  says it was an 18 to 24 month recovery.
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  He did not start the season for the Eagles the following year.
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  He played quickly but then developed other injuries.
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  Patrick Mahomes is unbelievable. He played through a high ankle
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  sprain in 2023 Super Bowl 57 and beat the Eagles.
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  No one's doubting him, but the fact is when you tear the LCL
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  and ACL, have the LCL repaired and the ACL reconstructed.
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  This is a higher bar than simple ACL reconstruction.
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  Can he play from the pocket? Sure, but it might be 2027
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  before he's fully mobile. Patrick Mahomes like before.
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  Wishing him the best of luck, but this news is significant for
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  the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes. Go to
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  sportsentrycentralsicscore.com for all the latest.
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  All right, so this is a guy that's been in operating rooms
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  and he's done these procedures before.
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  I'm going to defer to his opinion.
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  Not that he's, you know, been there.
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  He wasn't in the room yesterday in Dallas when Mahomes underwent
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  the surgery. But that's certainly far better
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  than a couple of knuckleheads from noon to two trying to
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  figure out our way through this thing.
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  Here's this is this is big on a couple of fronts.
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  Obviously the head coach, Andy Reid, does he want to come back
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  and go through this again and cross his fingers that his may
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  be the best quarterback to ever play the game?
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  And that pains me to say because I'm an Elway guy, but the and
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  and obviously Brady was pretty darn good in his own right.
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  And there's been a bunch of them, right?
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  Errors are different. I get it.
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  But this guy's at the absolute pinnacle of his powers right now
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  in Patrick Mahomes. And if he can't come back next
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  year, what does he do? What does Travis Kelsey do?
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  How is this team going to look the final three weeks of the
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  regular season? I mean, this is uncharted
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  territory for this roster, Trent.
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  They've never been in a spot. I mean, how many of them are 11
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  year vets, Kelsey and that it on this team.
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  How are they going to handle these next three weeks?
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  Probably not. Well, I wouldn't anticipate
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  you're going to see a real inspired group at this point in
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  time. But can we stop the narrative
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  out there that the dynasty is dead?
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  No, it's not. Over as soon as he gets back
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  under center. I mean, thumbs the thing again.
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  The the simpleton thinking about this, that this thing is over
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  and that it's going to end. And do you see that guy?
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  Do you have you watched Patrick Mahomes for the last eight
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  years? Absolutely.
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  I don't understand the thought process and the people that are
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  just throwing out and I know it's the hot taker and it drives
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  me nuts. And people just go out there to
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  say those kind of things and say inflammatory things just to say
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  them because it's not true. People.
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  How many times during Brady's career did you hear that?
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  It's not going to happen, right? It's not going to happen, right?
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  It's not going to happen and it continually happened.
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  You said it every August. And the belief is for me with
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  that front office, with that guy quarterback, that this is going
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  to be an organization that is always at minimum going to be
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  there. Is this a blessing in disguise,
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  Trent? They draft 29303132 every year,
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  usually 31 or 32. No, because guys, you miss it
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  32. You miss it 12.
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  I, I yeah, but you got, you got more guys that you can miss on
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  at 12 than you can at 32. No, because they've drafted
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  incredibly well. They have to.
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  That's my point. So IA blessing of disguise.
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  No, they want to be there. They want to be in the playoffs.
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  I absolutely can't go down that line.
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  Well, no, of course they want to be in the playoffs, but it's
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  not. They're going to have to reset
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  the roster, whether it be next year or whether it be 2027.
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  I mean, the offensive line, they need, they need some help.
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  They absolutely need running backs in the worst way.
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  But the kid from Notre Dame love I would we look in a freaking
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  chiefs uniform. The the offense of the defensive
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  lines not getting any younger. Harrison Butter, who was
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  automatic for how many years he's not, you know, failed kind
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  of dropping off a little bit here.
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  So we'll see about this team, but this is certainly something
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  to watch. I think the biggest thing to
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  watch, obviously is what does Andy Reid do and how did this
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  team react after Andy Reid is gone?
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  Can't coach forever. 67 years old, got a bunch of grandkids.
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  Does he really want to go through this again?
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  Is, you know, his his next stop is is Canton in the Hall of
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  Fame. We'll see where it goes.
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  Let's take a couple of calls, Anthony and then Nate in that
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  order. Anthony, thanks for being
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  patient. How are you?
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  I'm. Pretty good guys.
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  Merry Christmas to you all, Merry.
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  Christmas. Yeah, guys talk about my cheese
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  and they're saying, yeah, it's a bummer this year, but pressure
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  tooth is or does. How do you guys on that veteran
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  or veterans right now? This has age has finally caught
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  up with the Kansas City cheese. I know these guys in the mid
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  early 30s I think if I believe if I remember right.
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  And how many free agents are there to be losing here as you
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  go on to next season? And another question is I have
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  for you guys, do the Chief really need to tool up and
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  rebuild that season as you're looking forward into the draft
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  next year? Hey, guys.
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  I'll hey listen to go Chief. Thanks, Anthony.
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  I appreciate the call. Yeah, I think they do.
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  And we got, you know, just kind of identified some of the the
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  spots the offense was not great this.
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  Year it was not. By by a long shot.
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  This was not your typical. And they thought they had a cast
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  of receivers and truth be told, so did I that this team was
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  absolutely going to tear up the competition week in and week
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  out. Travis Kelce's numbers are back
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  to where he was when he came into the league.
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  He's still a nice player, but you know, 12 months from now or
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  whatever it is, what does he don't lie.
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  So eight months from now, does he really want to be, you know,
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  he's getting married this offseason, You know, is the
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  training, is the offseason training going to be there?
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  Is he going to really want to run this back?
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  I'm not so sure. The the receivers that were, you
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  know, the greatest thing that they've greatest core of
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  receivers ever assembled didn't materialize.
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  Offensive line couldn't keep Mahomes upright.
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  A lot of time defence is getting older.
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  We'll see. And you say all these things,
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  Ken. They're sixth in defence,
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  they're 7th in offense in the NFL.
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  It seems like they're down. It is one score games go
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  through. They had a historic run last
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  year, score victories and it dated back to the year previous
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  where they won all the one score games and you don't do that, but
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  it normally normalizes and this year they are I think one in
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  seven. Well, Denver's done it this
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  year. Right.
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  And that'll normalize next year and they'll take a step back and
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  you'll be freaking. Out going to do that right?
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  Yes. Yes, not them.
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  That's what happens, That's what has happened.
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  You're #1 Minnesota Vikings and Kevin O'Connell.
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  What happened? They won everyone score game and
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  they're great. The next year, guess what
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  happened? It regressed.
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  They didn't win those one score games.
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  They missed the playoffs last year.
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  What happened? The Vikings won all their one
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  score games. What's happening this year?
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  They didn't win their one score games and now they are going to
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  miss the playoffs. That is the NFL and for the
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  Chiefs. Did they play a lot of 1 score
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  games this year in Minnesota? Not as many, but just in
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  general. You understand the thinking
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  here. This is year in, year out.
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  You want to look at something. Look at one score differential.
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  Those are the teams that regress.
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  Those are the teams that take a step forward.
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  It normalizes year after year after year.
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  And what do you go through? And you look at the Kansas City
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  Chiefs A1 score. Loss last week to the Chargers,
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  A1 score. Loss to the Cowboys, A1 score.
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  Loss to the Broncos, A1 score. Loss to the Bills, A1 score.
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  Loss to the Jaguars. A1 score.
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  Loss against Eagles, A1 score. No loss against the Chargers.
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  Boom. Listen, there it is.
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  Listen to that schedule and. Then you got that too, right?
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  I mean, it's one playoff team after another.
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  Let's get Nate in here. Nate, how are you?
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  Then we'll get a break. We're going to talk Vikings with
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  Dame Mosutani. Where do they go?
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  They found their quarterback. What are they seeing out of JJ
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  McCarthy? I'll tell you what I saw.
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  I saw a quarterback that looked like maybe he's got a chance.
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  I'm not going to get ahead of myself, but last Sunday night
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  was certainly a positive. Hey, Nate.
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  Hey Ken, your favorite Chiefs fan?
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  Good to. Hear from you.
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  Hitch is a couple numbers real quick.
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  That's going to be really tough for them next year.
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  They going to have to knock the draft out of the park.
• 18:18
  You I'll leave the number one cap hit alone for what?
• 18:22
  What's on the books next year. Want to take a guess what Chris
• 18:26
  Jones is his cap hit next year? Oh God, Cap hit next year?
• 18:31
  4 million. It's how many?
• 18:34
  44 million. 40, that's quarterback cap hit money.
• 18:38
  Wow. I guess what the quarterback cap
• 18:40
  hit is next year without I mean it's, it's going to get
• 18:42
  restructured and stretched out. So it won't be this, but 78
• 18:46
  million. Jesus.
• 18:48
  I'm looking at it down. I mean, it's it's.
• 18:51
  And what that 10 year contract was meant to be, they, they kept
• 18:54
  Reese, you know, every the first couple of years they
• 18:56
  restructured, restructured, restructured.
• 18:58
  Well, you do your signing bonus, you spread your signing bonus
• 19:01
  out every year. And now the bills coming to get
• 19:04
  paid. I mean, it'll get restructured
• 19:06
  down to a management level. But I'd argue with you on the
• 19:09
  offensive line though. It's just been injuries this
• 19:11
  year. They drafted their left.
• 19:12
  I like Simmons a lot. I like Simmons a lot.
• 19:14
  Yeah, obviously Simmons and Trey Smith and Creed Humphrey, those
• 19:18
  are three, I think, elite pieces.
• 19:20
  They're their draft pick from last year that they thought was
• 19:23
  going to be a left tackle is turning out to be an awesome
• 19:29
  left guard. So there's four years.
• 19:31
  Which one the the, the guy the the Hawaiian last name?
• 19:34
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Kingsley, Kingsley, Sue
• 19:37
  Kingsley. And then now they've got Esta
• 19:40
  pole from Washington State that they cut for some reason, went
• 19:44
  to The Jets, got cut. He's now playing left tackle and
• 19:47
  is not doing too bad. Yeah, they pointed that out
• 19:53
  there. I think they're during the
• 19:53
  broadcast against the Chargers that they were happy with his
• 19:56
  production. So, yeah.
• 19:57
  All right. So there, I mean, played right,
• 20:00
  played right tackle a little bit at Washington State.
• 20:02
  So your offensive line might be OK.
• 20:05
  Yeah, No, I know they like Simmons a ton, As they should.
• 20:08
  Juwan Taylor's getting a little old, isn't he?
• 20:10
  Always gets that, you know? Goes bright before, is it?
• 20:15
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's cap next cap at
• 20:18
  next year's outrageous and it's like 5-4 or five million in dead
• 20:23
  cap to cut him. He's there's no way he's on the.
• 20:25
  Team and what's the injuries? Moore is that his name?
• 20:28
  The guy that was, he was kind of really more yeah, yeah.
• 20:31
  He'll be next year. I mean, he's going to be a $15
• 20:34
  million swing tackle or him. And at Chipotle, that'll be the
• 20:37
  right tackle. Nate, thanks for the call.
• 20:39
  Appreciate it. Good to hear from you.
• 20:41
  By the way, Mitch Holtis will join us tomorrow at 12:45, 12-50
• 20:45
  ish. Look forward to catching,
• 20:46
  catching up with Mitt. It's just going to be, it's just
• 20:48
  weird. It is.
• 20:49
  How's this team going to get through these next three?
• 20:51
  Would you bet on them? Would you bet against them?
• 20:54
  They're oh, per game. Yes, I know they'll get up for
• 20:59
  Denver on Christmas night because it's a divisional foe
• 21:02
  with a pulse, right? They won't against the Raiders,
• 21:04
  even though that's a great rivalry.
• 21:05
  These the Raiders are they're terrible.
• 21:09
  They got the Titans this week, right?
• 21:11
  By the way, Speaking of that game, we'll get the Dame
• 21:14
  Mazatani a second here. What's I know the map is not out
• 21:18
  yet. Take a look at CB S S early
• 21:20
  window on Sunday. NFL schedule Week 1.
• 21:30
  What do we get to Week 15? All right.
• 21:33
  Week 15 or 16. 16 There you go. 21st CBS has got Chiefs of
• 21:37
  Titans, Bengals at Dolphins, Bills at Browns or Jets at
• 21:47
  Saints. What a load of crap.
• 21:49
  We'll get Kansas City. We'll get Kansas City.
• 21:51
  Yes, and probably everybody in the state will get Kansas City.
• 21:54
  The only other game would be Buffalo at Cleveland.
• 21:57
  Yeah, but they won't give us that.
• 21:59
  Stone game. Fingers crossed, yeah.
• 22:02
  It's Terry. What is Fox got in the early
• 22:04
  window. That's where the everybody in
• 22:06
  certainly central I will be, I would assume.
• 22:08
  I'm going to guess we're going to be served up Vikings, the
• 22:10
  Giants, because it's either that or Tampa Carolina, though for
• 22:13
  division supremacy or the Chargers at Dallas.
• 22:17
  But at least they got options. I think they'll probably give us
• 22:20
  the two non playoff teams because again, it's Fox, it's
• 22:24
  KDSM. And what the Bears and Packers
• 22:27
  playing on Saturday night? That takes away 2 locals there.
• 22:31
  Not a great, not a great Sunday. It's good Sunday to have the NFL
• 22:34
  Ticket. And even.
• 22:35
  Or YouTube TV. I mean, the late afternoon
• 22:37
  window, it's two teams with a pulse.
• 22:39
  The national game is going to be the Steelers at the Lions, and
• 22:42
  it's just kind of OK. Yeah, it's not great.
• 22:45
  No, because Denver hosts Jacksonville at the Three O 5
• 22:48
  spot. Three O 5.
• 22:50
  Brutal. Dame Mazzutani next Miller and
• 22:52
  Condon. Glad you're with us.
• 22:53
  It's the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 22:58
  I just passed 1230. Millory Condon, Welcome back,
• 23:00
  Iowa Sports Radio Network. We'll catch up with the sports
• 23:03
  director at KCCI Channel 8, Scott Reister.
• 23:06
  He's got a big event tonight. Toys for Tots Fairway on oral
• 23:09
  labor in Ankeny from six until 7.
• 23:12
  Let's head north. Dane Mosutani.
• 23:14
  He covers the Vikings for the Saint Paul Pioneer Press,
• 23:17
  twincities.com. That's Dane's primary beat.
• 23:20
  He was a Jerry World on on Sunday night to witness the
• 23:24
  Vikings takedown the Cowboys. Dane, thanks for jumping on with
• 23:27
  us. Always appreciate, appreciate
• 23:28
  your contribution to our program.
• 23:30
  Obviously, the JJ McCarthy arrow, at least after this past
• 23:34
  week, seemingly pointed in the right direction, pointed up.
• 23:38
  How did the giddy go over with his team mates and then with his
• 23:40
  coaches? Was that looking at the two
• 23:43
  different lenses perhaps? You can talk about the gritty on
• 23:47
  the way. Yes, Sir.
• 23:48
  Yes, Sir. I don't think the coaches liked
• 23:51
  it, I think his team mates did. I don't know, I thought that his
• 23:56
  comments after the game kind of made me laugh.
• 23:59
  You know, he he made clear he was told not to do it in
• 24:02
  practice and kind of like a little kid, you tell not to
• 24:05
  touch the stove. He he did it in the game.
• 24:08
  So I guess when when you're scoring ball fake was very good
• 24:13
  overall, the performance was very good.
• 24:14
  So when you're when you're walking into the end zone, I
• 24:17
  guess you earn your earn the right.
• 24:20
  But yeah, I think they'd, the coaches would probably prefer
• 24:23
  more of a Barry Sanders like finish where you just run and
• 24:26
  you give it to the ref and you go to the side.
• 24:28
  Goes hand in hand and Collinsworth was talking about
• 24:31
  this a lot. Everybody in the organization,
• 24:33
  they want it to happen. For McCarthy, his personality
• 24:36
  seems different. He he seems weird, little odd,
• 24:39
  tough guy, sometimes weird. The others, it just tell us
• 24:42
  about his personality and it just he seems different than, I
• 24:46
  guess, your prototypical NFL quarterback.
• 24:49
  Yeah, I was born in 1992, so I think I'm a consider to be a
• 24:53
  millennial. JJ McCarthy is is a Gen.
• 24:57
  Z quarterback through and through like he is.
• 25:00
  He is online. He is all about that.
• 25:02
  Like he like a lot of the things he does.
• 25:05
  Like it feels like we're kind of created in the lab to, to go
• 25:10
  viral on social media. So I think that is like kind of
• 25:13
  part of his personality. And I don't think he's he's
• 25:16
  trying to to be somebody that he's not.
• 25:19
  I think that's who he is. Like if this kid grew up on
• 25:22
  social media, he's 22 years old, he's Gen.
• 25:25
  Z, he's as Gen. Z as it gets.
• 25:26
  And I think at times that can manifest itself in the ways that
• 25:31
  that make people laugh and sometimes manifest itself in
• 25:34
  ways that make people cringe. But all of it I do think it is
• 25:39
  him being authentic to who he is just might not be for everybody.
• 25:43
  So I like it. I think the slagger is something
• 25:47
  you need to succeed, especially at that position.
• 25:51
  I would probably like to see a little bit more production
• 25:54
  before I see some of the other, you know, extracurriculars that
• 25:59
  are going on on the field. But again, I think that's who he
• 26:02
  is at his core. So I can't hate too much for
• 26:04
  that. Is the game you keep hearing
• 26:07
  about quarterbacks, young quarterbacks, game starting to
• 26:09
  slow down? Is that where McCarthy's at now?
• 26:12
  He certainly has looked better since he's got back in the
• 26:15
  lineup. And I and Dallas's defense, they
• 26:17
  were bad early. They're better defense now at
• 26:19
  this point of the year than they certainly were earlier in the
• 26:22
  season. Is the game slowing down?
• 26:23
  Is McCarthy starting to look more and more like they thought
• 26:26
  he was going to be when they drafted him?
• 26:29
  Yeah, I think the game, it would be fair to say the game is
• 26:32
  slowing down. I think some of the improvement
• 26:35
  has coincided with a change in messaging from from Kevin
• 26:39
  O'Connell and the coaching staff.
• 26:41
  It was for a long time. Let's focus on the mechanics.
• 26:44
  Let's focus on, you know, the base and body at the top of the
• 26:47
  drop and, you know, your feet and eyes when you release the
• 26:50
  ball. And in about the past few weeks,
• 26:54
  it's it's turned into more just just go out, make good decisions
• 26:58
  and go play. Now it is a chicken or an egg
• 27:01
  situation. Is the recent success because
• 27:05
  they have said, you know, screw it with the mechanics.
• 27:08
  Let's just go be who you are and we'll fix all that other stuff
• 27:12
  in the offseason. Is that why it's contributed to
• 27:15
  improve play? Or is it simply that the last
• 27:18
  two weeks he's played the Washington Commanders and the
• 27:20
  Dallas Cowboys have two of the worst defenses in the league?
• 27:23
  I think it's probably a combination of both, but I, I,
• 27:27
  I'll say like, if you go back and watch that Green Bay Packers
• 27:29
  game, a lot of the game plan, a lot of the way that the the, the
• 27:33
  plays were called is a lot of the stuff you saw against the
• 27:36
  Washington Commanders and the Dallas Cowboys just looked a
• 27:39
  heck of a lot different when you're going up against an elite
• 27:42
  defense on the other end. So I don't want to take anything
• 27:44
  away from what JJ McCarthy has done.
• 27:47
  He's been impressive. He's showing improvement.
• 27:49
  It's what you need to see out of a young signal, call it, but I
• 27:54
  don't think it's the simplest thing.
• 27:56
  Well, see, they were over coaching him and now they're
• 27:58
  letting him beat him and he's fixed.
• 28:00
  I think some of these things that have been issues in the
• 28:03
  past need to get fixed still because it's not going to work
• 28:07
  when you're not playing the Commanders and the Cowboys of
• 28:10
  the world on the defensive side of the ball. 6 catches for 37
• 28:14
  yards. That's not Justin Jefferson in
• 28:16
  the first half. That's his last three games.
• 28:18
  He has two touchdowns this year. We know wide receiver is a
• 28:22
  position where you get people with some personality and a lot
• 28:25
  of frustration that comes along with it, and we've seen
• 28:27
  frustration at times. What do we anticipate the
• 28:30
  offseason and could there be a push by Jefferson asking his way
• 28:34
  out of Minnesota? No, no chance.
• 28:37
  I, I, I would be absolutely stunned if if that was even
• 28:42
  remotely something that gets talked about 1:00 because it's
• 28:45
  Vikings will never do it. 2 He's locked into a contract that is
• 28:48
  extremely untradable. And three, and most importantly,
• 28:52
  that's not who Justin Jefferson is.
• 28:54
  Like he has not at any point this season and the door has
• 28:58
  been open to do it many times rolled JJ McCarthy under the
• 29:02
  bus. He is not criticizing the
• 29:04
  coaching staff. He is not at any point made this
• 29:06
  about himself. And he he could, he could, he
• 29:11
  has earned the right the cachet to after catching 2 passes for
• 29:16
  22 yards the other day to say like, throw me the Dang ball.
• 29:20
  He doesn't do that. And then he never had in his
• 29:23
  career. And we've talked about this this
• 29:25
  year just kind of different, you know, channels.
• 29:28
  But if it was going to happen, I think it would have happened
• 29:31
  already. And in that at Justin
• 29:33
  Jefferson's core, he's a happy go lucky kid who loves playing
• 29:36
  football. And yes, he loves producing
• 29:39
  yardage, touchdowns, catches, all of that.
• 29:43
  But I think when he was already team captain last year, that
• 29:46
  ignited something in him. He understands his position on
• 29:49
  this team where he, you know, shows up and it's not always on
• 29:54
  the stat sheet. I think he takes being a leader
• 29:56
  really, really seriously. And then leadership, he said
• 30:00
  this last week, leadership is is is showing up when it's hard.
• 30:03
  And it's been hard at times for Justin Jefferson this season.
• 30:06
  But at no point do I think he is he has personified the diva
• 30:11
  mentality that that that tends to kind of come with that
• 30:14
  position that he plays. So I got nothing but respect for
• 30:17
  for the way he's handled himself and like I said, I would be
• 30:21
  absolutely stunned if it results in any sort of drama this
• 30:24
  Aussie. The respect that you talked
• 30:26
  about when it comes to the fans of the Vikings when they when
• 30:29
  they watch Adam Thielen seemingly trying to blow up the
• 30:32
  relationship as he got to Pittsburgh and said some glowing
• 30:35
  things about that locker room conflicting with the 1 he was
• 30:39
  just in. This wasn't.
• 30:40
  I don't have to tell you, this guy was amazingly popular as a
• 30:43
  Viking. They wanted him to stay.
• 30:45
  They were. They were giddy when he was able
• 30:48
  to come back to begin this year. Obviously it didn't work out.
• 30:52
  But why did Thielen feel compelled to take the shots?
• 30:54
  Or did they? Were they seen as a shot across
• 30:57
  the bow in the Twin Cities? I didn't like it personally and
• 31:00
  I'm not a fan. I wonder how the fan base was.
• 31:03
  Yeah, I don't think the fans liked it at all.
• 31:06
  This is a guy who deserves a ton of respect for the career that
• 31:11
  he's made for himself and just kind of trying to see things
• 31:15
  from his perspective and have some empathy that way.
• 31:17
  Like, I think he made it as an undrafted free agent out of
• 31:22
  Minnesota State Mankato because of the the intestinal fortitude
• 31:27
  that he has, because of the belief he had in himself.
• 31:30
  And I think you see this with athletes sometimes when when
• 31:34
  it's nearing an end, I think it can be tough to accept that you
• 31:36
  are what you once were. I think that's what's happening
• 31:39
  with Adam a little bit right now.
• 31:41
  I think he believes deep in his heart that he can still
• 31:44
  contribute at a high level. And he wasn't contributing at a
• 31:47
  high level really at any level with the Vikings this year.
• 31:50
  So I think that kind of manifests itself and some of the
• 31:53
  comments he made. But yeah, the fan base didn't
• 31:56
  like it. You say you didn't like it.
• 31:57
  I didn't like it. This guy is a as good as
• 32:02
  receiver the Vikings have had, and they've had a lot of good
• 32:04
  receivers in their franchise. He has established a legacy
• 32:08
  here. And while I don't think those
• 32:10
  comments tarnish it, I think they certainly kind of just make
• 32:14
  you look at him a little sideways and say, like, what the
• 32:17
  heck. Like, this could have been his
• 32:19
  career is going to be done. I would be pretty surprised he's
• 32:21
  announced that that he's done at the end of the year, could have
• 32:26
  gone out in style with the Vikings, with your hometown
• 32:28
  team, and instead you're going to go finish it out and I guess
• 32:32
  Pittsburgh might make the playoffs.
• 32:34
  Is that team contending for a Super Bowl?
• 32:35
  Like, I don't think it was about ring chasing for Adam Thiel, and
• 32:38
  I think it was about him feeling appreciated.
• 32:41
  And even though he's extremely appreciated here, Yeah, I think,
• 32:47
  I think he missed the mark on those comments.
• 32:48
  And I think down the road he might regret what he said.
• 32:51
  Final thing for me, Dane, when you look at this team, the way
• 32:54
  they're set up, KO, CS not going anywhere.
• 32:57
  Defense coordinator Brian Flores is not going to be opportunities
• 33:00
  as as toxic, unfortunately for him as things are to become a
• 33:03
  head coach again. Quincy no Fomenza what the GM?
• 33:09
  I don't think firing after the year but maybe hot seat going
• 33:13
  into 2026. Yeah.
• 33:16
  I mean, I guess to a degree, we'll see how the final season
• 33:19
  or final three weeks finish out. You would have told me when they
• 33:23
  were four and six that they were going to finish four and 13.
• 33:26
  I would have said, yeah, I think somebody probably has to pay for
• 33:29
  that. If they can kind of continue the
• 33:33
  the positive momentum they have established in in this soft part
• 33:36
  of the schedule and finish let's say 8 and nine, shoot, maybe
• 33:42
  they went out and go nine and eight.
• 33:43
  Like, I don't think anyone's necessarily going to get fired
• 33:46
  for that, even if the Vikings vastly underperformed their
• 33:50
  expectations by missing the playoffs with a month to play.
• 33:53
  But yeah, I think Hot Seat's probably fair to say if that's
• 33:57
  how we want to classify it. I think he has to have a good
• 34:00
  draft if he's going to be here through this offseason.
• 34:04
  I think we see documents that has to nail this draft.
• 34:07
  He has not nailed a draft yet. So I think that is definitely
• 34:11
  something that that he needs to kind of prove himself with.
• 34:14
  But you know, a lot of these times, if I can talk about it,
• 34:18
  like the collaboration, it's not just place you making these
• 34:21
  decisions, it's everybody making these decisions in concert with
• 34:24
  each other. Now when they don't work out and
• 34:27
  then your job is to construct the roster.
• 34:29
  Like, obviously you're going to be the person that bears the
• 34:32
  brunt of the blame. But yeah, look, it's not quasi
• 34:35
  just going out here and drafting JJ McCarthy, who had a say in
• 34:39
  the JJ McCarthy pick, Kevin O'Connell.
• 34:41
  So like, all of these guys are connected.
• 34:44
  But yeah, I think with the drafts that Quasi's had, he
• 34:46
  certainly has something to prove heading into this all.
• 34:48
  Give me 30 seconds on this. Your former beat the Minnesota
• 34:51
  Wild. My God, David.
• 34:53
  Yeah, we got to get to that. Quinn Hughes, he is a superstar.
• 34:57
  Other than Kale Makar, I'm not sure there's a defenseman I I
• 35:00
  appreciate more. I love Morrissey with Winnipeg,
• 35:02
  but this Quinn Hughes is something they had to give up a
• 35:05
  ton. The Wild were 30 to 1 to win the
• 35:07
  Cup. I know the division's
• 35:08
  unbelievable. Obviously Dallas and Colorado
• 35:11
  reside there. I thought they got a lot better.
• 35:13
  That was a that was a hockey trade.
• 35:14
  Dane Moussatani and. I was wondering if you want to
• 35:17
  bring that up. Yeah, Look, I know people fall
• 35:22
  in love with their prospects. It's part of being a fan.
• 35:24
  You you like seeing guys get drafted and developed and and
• 35:27
  you fall in love with that kid and you hope that they can be
• 35:29
  one day a superstar. So people are upset with the
• 35:33
  Hall. They had to give up.
• 35:35
  And I think that was the immediate reaction, losing Marco
• 35:37
  Rossi, losing people. You could be elite at the top of
• 35:41
  his his level if he reaches it and losing Liam Ogren in a pic
• 35:46
  like people were saying, oh, we gave up too much.
• 35:48
  No, you didn't. You make that trade 100 out of
• 35:51
  100 time. You make that trade 1,000,000
• 35:53
  out of a million time. Quinn Hughes is the second best
• 35:55
  defenseman in the world right now on the planet.
• 35:59
  The first best defenseman is Caleb Makar and he has a chance
• 36:02
  to be the greatest that's ever done it.
• 36:04
  Quinn Hughes makes this team exponentially more dangerous
• 36:07
  than they were a week ago. They're legitimately Stanley Cup
• 36:12
  contenders now. I don't think they were a week
• 36:14
  ago before making that trade. So phenomenal job by Bill Garen.
• 36:19
  And then people of the cynics are saying, well, he's just
• 36:21
  going to leave for New Jersey in 18 months maybe.
• 36:24
  But if if they can make a push this year, nobody's leaving a
• 36:27
  team that they think can win the Stanley Cup.
• 36:29
  Great stuff, Dane. Appreciate what you do for us.
• 36:31
  Thanks for doing this. Happy holidays.
• 36:33
  Merry Christmas. We will talk to you down the
• 36:35
  road. Thanks, Dane.
• 36:37
  Anytime, guys. Yeah.
• 36:37
  Good to talk to you. Dane.
• 36:38
  Mazatani on the Vikings and just a massive hockey trade.
• 36:41
  We'll take a time out. Come back.
• 36:42
  Scott Reister's next. Miller and Condon.
• 36:44
  Iowa Sports Radio Network. Miller and Condon, welcome back.
• 36:47
  Wasn't expected Christmas music here, TC.
• 36:50
  Throw you off a little bit hard. It did.
• 36:52
  Let's get right. Scott Reister.
• 36:53
  We're up against time because like 3 1/2 minutes left.
• 36:56
  Scott Reister joins us. He along with former NFL running
• 36:59
  back Fred Jackson, who Co college graduate spent most of
• 37:02
  his career in Buffalo before finishing up in Seattle, will be
• 37:07
  at the Fairway store oral labor tonight.
• 37:10
  It's Toys for Tots. You've done this a lot over your
• 37:12
  career, Scott Reister, and you're going to be back out out
• 37:16
  tonight with Jackson and Santa and yourself.
• 37:19
  Tell us all the details. What time will we be there?
• 37:22
  Yeah, fire trucks. Sorry, getting attacked by a 12
• 37:26
  LB dog right now who wants to bark everything.
• 37:29
  Yeah, it's going to be super fun.
• 37:31
  Alright, let me go outside. Great timing, right?
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  Yeah, there's going to be a fire truck out there also full of
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  toys. It's the KCCI Toys for Tots Dr.
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  There's been drop off locations all day.
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  Ankeny on or Labor Rd. you can go right now, drop it off.
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  Also Prairie Meadows, if you head to our KCCI app, you can
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  sell the drop off locations. But really the highlight is
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  going to be yeah, Fred Jackson's been involved for a couple years
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  now. I think it's the fourth year
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  he's coming out and he'll be there at 6:00.
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  I'll be out there a little bit before that doing the newscast
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  at four or five, six. We'll be out there on the air
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  till 7:00. Fred brings his little family,
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  usually they donate a bunch of toys.
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  So yeah, he signs autographs, takes pictures.
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  It's just, you know, a great feeling everybody has by
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  bringing a new unwrapped toy to drop off for kids that need it
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  and just, you know, hang out with Fred and do whatever.
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  And then Santa's there. Then the big fire truck full of
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  toys comes. It's been picking up left from
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  all the other toy locations across the metro that that we've
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  been collecting. So you could not be in a better
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  mood after after this. It'll all be on TV on KCCI.
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  So like kind of a neat random thing that Fred Jackson's been
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  living in Iowa all these years and he's really jumped on board
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  and added some star power to it. Absolutely and his son over at
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  the University of Iowa just completed his true freshman year
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  red shirt of this year and see if he's been toting the rock
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  here of next season. The next couple for the
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  Hawkeyes. You mentioned the connection
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  that you guys have Toys for Tots.
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  You've been doing this for a number of years.
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  You know, we had an opportunity last week working with variety
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  to do it. Just the stories that I'm sure
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  Scott, you hear some of those stories and these, these
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  youngsters out there that I don't know if there's going to
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  be anything under the tree or maybe not even a tree at their
• 39:05
  house. What Toys for Todd does here for
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  our community? Oh, it's unbelievable.
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  It's AUS Marine Corps program and thank goodness there's
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  programs like this, because many of us are blessed not to even
• 39:15
  think twice about the ability to go out and, you know, buy some
• 39:18
  presents for everybody. But the reality is to borrow
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  what Matt Campbell ISM, you know, that's not that's not how
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  it is for a lot of people. And Fred Jackson, one of the
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  reasons he's great is, you know, he was one of those families
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  growing up and he always been one of the reasons he comes out
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  every year, he tells the story, you know, he was in that family
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  growing up that he knows what it's like not to have anything
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  on Christmas. And now that he's, he's, he's
• 39:40
  big time, you know, he loves giving back and loves being able
• 39:43
  to provide that, that moment for those kids.
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  And so you look at these just absolute mountain of toys that
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  pile up over the day. And it's really neat to see and
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  and and really the worthwhile 'cause.
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  I got only 30 seconds left. Scott Six to seven tonight, a
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  fairway oral labor role. But where?
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  Where on the app can you find out?
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  KCCI. You can find out all the drop
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  off locations in central Iowa. Where should people go?
• 40:07
  Yeah, absolutely. Just home Casey style, see right
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  there. We're also going to be at the
• 40:10
  Waukee Waukee Northwest basketball game at Washington
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  Northwest High School for that showdown and have drop offs
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  there. So they're having a nice
• 40:16
  competition between the two schools.
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  So thank you guys so much. I appreciate it.
• 40:19
  Good stuff. Thank you, Scott.
• 40:20
  Appreciate Scott Reister, KCCI Channel 8 Sports Director over
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  there Toys for Tots. Outstanding work by that group
• 40:27
  and Scott mentioned the Marines very much involved in that
• 40:31
  charitable organization. Our number 2 Elliot Clef will
• 40:35
  kick it off Bill Bender on the upcoming College Football
• 40:38
  Playoff round #1 Miller and Condon are on the Iowa Sports
• 40:41
  Radio Network.