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#198 – Jimmy Yates: Knuckle Up Texas & Houston’s Drift Culture · After-Hours with Faction! Motorsports

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I was broke. So you spend a lot of time
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studying. That's why money can't buy style
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because if you have money, you're not sitting there in your
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free time studying because you have time, you don't have money.
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So you spend your time studying, developing your style.
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And that's why the best cars come from the brokest people.
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Al you have to dress for the job that you want, not for that job
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that you have. That's why I like now in my
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drivers meetings, if there's cars that pull up, like I
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literally tell media, don't take pictures of the cars.
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I will pay you not to take pictures of the cars that show
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up. What's going on, everybody?
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Welcome back to the After Hours podcast.
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This is episode #3 from our Texas series.
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We took a trip down to Houston, meet Eddie and Carl, and got to
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do podcasts with a bunch of people that we've been meaning
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to. And Jimmy Yates was one of the
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ones that we wanted to do for like the last three years, ever
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since we started this podcast. So getting down to sit with him
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at his garage, seeing his cars, hanging out with a bunch of
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people. Damon was there.
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Camry on bronze. You know, we met a lot of
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different people as well. We also met Harris Lynch, his
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teammate from Team Essence. And Harris was actually in the
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background during this whole podcast.
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Kind of weird. You're probably going to be
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like, who is in the back eating a cinnamon roll?
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But yeah, Harris was there, probably the best live audience
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we've had in a long time. So Jimmy runs Knuckle Up down
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there in Texas. It's a drift organization
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basically focusing on styled cars, clean drifting, stuff like
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that. Check them out.
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Knuckle Up Texas. Pretty much if you if your car
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is up to the standard of that organization, then you can drift
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there. And some people would call this
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gatekeeping it. That's probably because it is
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gatekeeping. But I think it's for the right
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reasons. And you guys will find out
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during this podcast why it's set up like that.
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Jimmy is one of the reasons. Houston, TX drift culture is so
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stylized right now. All the cars are looking really,
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really good coming out of that area.
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So he is pretty much the reason, not just he, he didn't say that
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himself. Other people have told us that
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he is the reason why everything's going on down there
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right now. So really wanted to do this
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podcast and find out what, you know, the secret recipe was for
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what's going on in Houston right now.
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There's a lot I can say about Jimmy.
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There's a lot of beautiful things I can say about Jimmy.
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There might be some bad things I can say about Jimmy, but I'll
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tell you one thing, he's a good dude.
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I'll let you all figure out the rest 01 more thing.
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OK, well, I just got to RIP this quick intro.
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Welcome everybody to the Faction After Hours podcast.
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We're here to bring another episode.
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We've been rifling through these, but now we have Jimmy
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Yates, the world renowned Jimmy Yates, everybody.
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There we go. Oh.
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Wait. That was the live crowd, man.
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What is? That.
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Come on. Thanks guys.
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Dude, thank you so much for that.
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Yeah, no problem. Opening your doors and spending
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some time with us here just because.
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Yeah, this one's a long time coming.
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So I appreciate you guys coming down.
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Yeah, dude, like, OK. How did you bring drifting to
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Texas? Yeah.
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Can we just start with this? I did not bring drifting to.
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Texas, we know you didn't bring it, but we know you brought
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something. All right, so how deep do you
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want to? Go pretty deep.
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Like, OK, all right, so origin story.
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So I had a 350Z at the time, and at the time I had a Grady
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exhaust on it, like the big Grady Evo 2.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like dual canister, you
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know, And at the time I was on my 350Z forum with Harris and
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the group of guys that we were like chatting with, they're all
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track guys. And so I wasn't really into
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drifting. I love drifting, but I was like,
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dude, I'm in college. I'll wreck my shit.
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This is my only car that I have. I can't do it, but I would I
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still want to do something Motorsports.
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So I was like, oh, we'll do a track day.
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So the guys are like, all right, you know, like, you know, weight
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saving stuff like that and you know, whatever.
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So I was like, all right, well, let me get rid of this greedy
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exhaust. And I wanted a single, but I was
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very particular. I didn't want like a single
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exhaust that was like cocked like everything else.
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But JSE magic made the their Titan exhaust or whatever that
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came straight out. So it was like an old like S30Z
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where it was like straight exhaust out.
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It was like perfect. It was the only one for 350Z at
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the time. That what?
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Year was this about? This was 20/10/2011.
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I started drifting late. Like I didn't start drifting
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until. Like I started drifting.
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How old were you when it was late?
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2021 because I, I didn't do it in high school.
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I still had my ZI had my Z since I was like 17, but I never like
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all right, we'll back up even more.
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My ZI got arrested and went to jail because I went street
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racing in my Z and they, they made an example out of me and
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booked me, impounded my car and was trying to charge me for
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felony like evading the cops and racing stuff like that.
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And so that that happened the night I had won district for
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tennis in high school. And so like it was the first
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time we'd won district in like 10 years.
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I was like team captain, like I brought the school back.
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It was a super cool like moment for everybody.
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So that night like, oh, let's just go out and like people were
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like, hey, let's just go like go the drag, the street racing spot
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that we all go to because I grew up in West TX.
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So it was all like drag race stuff and I had the Z and I was
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like yeah, I'll go hang out or whatever.
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And my buddy like called me out like yeah fuck it, let's just
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run 1 real quick. So we ran one and the sheriff
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jumped out of the fucking field behind me in the truck and we
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just ran it and they pulled me over, booked me, all that other
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stuff. So after that I was fucked
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because I was on probation and the deal was that if I stayed
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out of trouble until I turned 21 in my record be wiped.
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So I was like, OK, fine, I'm clean, whatever.
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So after that I didn't want to St. drift.
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I don't St. drift like I'm I'm not the one any of that shit.
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So I was trying not to do anything in trouble or whatever.
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So that kind of like kept me away from drifting.
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So in college I got into the 350Z stuff, wanted to track my
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car because I was like, OK, you know, I can probably do like a
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track event every once in a while.
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So anyways, I had this evo exhaust for the Grady, but I
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wanted to lighten up my car so I was getting rid of it.
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So I posted it and I was like, Hey, does anybody have anything
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to for trade? And Justin Rogers at the time
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also had a 350Z. So Justin Rogers essence garage.
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He had the red Coqui S14 that was like Sylvia, one of the most
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one of the more popular cars on Sylvia back in the day.
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It was it was on the like the bronze battles and stuff like
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that. There's a really famous picture
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from back in the day of him downtown Houston.
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It's like on the street, like super clean.
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So Justin had crashed that car, sold it, got a 350Z and he was
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drifting his 350Z at the time. So he had he had post me up.
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He's like, oh, I'll trade you my JSC for the Gretty.
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I was like, all right, cool. So that's.
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Where you wanted anyway. Yeah.
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So it was like perfect worked out.
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Yeah, it was perfect. So I drove downtown.
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I was going to school probably, right.
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It's probably like 30 minutes outside of Houston.
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And he was all the way, like closer to Galveston.
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So I drove all the way down there like on a Saturday morning
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and we're going to trade exhaust.
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So we jacked both cars up, we're trading exhaust, doing all that
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stuff. And by the time it was done, it
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was like 4 or 5:00 in the afternoon.
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It was like 8 hours of swapping these fucking exhausts and like.
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Using an adjustable wrench and like a hammer.
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Yeah, dude. Absolutely.
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It took fucking forever. Like hours.
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For a cat back is. Well, no, yeah, it was like
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fucking forever. Like I don't know why it took us
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forever. We were just fucking around and
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stuff like that. But anyway, by the time, yeah,
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but by the time I finished, you know, we chit chatted.
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I'd never met him. And I was like, yeah, I like,
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you know, drifting. I knew.
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I knew some stuff, like some shit that we used to download
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off of like Limewire, like whatever back in the day.
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Videos. Yeah, videos and stuff like
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that. Like I was like all about it,
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but like just wasn't, didn't have the confidence to go do it.
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And these dudes were like, dude, yeah, you can go drifting like
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you won't crash. Like we drift parking lots, like
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it's no big deal, like yadda, yadda, yadda.
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So I was like, OK, cool, so let me let me give it a try.
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So we that that day they're like, hey, you want to, you
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know, just hang out before you drive all the way back to
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school. I was like, yeah, cool.
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So like we were just hanging out at Justin's apartment and like
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watching Dora 10 and shit like that.
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I was like, oh fuck, this is cool.
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Like really started to deep dive into things and I was like, all
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right, cool. So I kind of just like threw
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some rack spacers on my car, some tie rods and just kind of
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kept the same thing. The car had like a VLSD in it.
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I already had like RPF ones on it because it was like, still
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like, I want to do tracks. So those wheels kind of work and
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yeah, I started going to Lone Star Drift stuff like back then
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and started drifting. And so then I started hanging
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out with Essence Garage guys and like just kind of like they were
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already kind of into the whole Japanese drift.
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So they were already a a thing. Yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah. So they had started years
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before, like probably Kev. I think Kev knows the actual
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date, but probably like 2007, 2008, that's whenever Essence
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Garage started. And so I came in probably 2011
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or so. And so I was like, they like
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brought me in and like we started drifting and stuff like
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that. And that was like blog era.
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So like I was like super new and super excited.
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So I wanted to start doing the blog.
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So I took over the Essence blog and posting on that.
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I had my own blog at the time and all that stuff, so that's
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kind of. What is Essence Garage for the
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people who don't know like me? Like for me, I thought essence
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was literally just the ones that I see the the ones that I knew
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or what have you. What is Essence?
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So Essence, so Essence, it started off as Essence Garage
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and it was three members, Justin, Emron and Andrew and
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those guys, they kind of just all were like very similar, like
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minded, like Japanese. They like the, like the cool
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shit that we all like, right? And they didn't really have a
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A-Team name, but they went to an event one time and there was a
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car that they all liked. And one of them was like, dude,
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that car just has the essence and they're like, Ding, that's a
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sick name. So like, boom, that was team
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Essence, right? And Essence Garage, because at
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the time they had a, they had a shop, they were, they were all
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using their shop. So they had Essence Garage.
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So Essence Garage, they were building their cars out of it
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and stuff like that. And then I came in, I was like
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the 4th member. And then kind of over time those
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guys got older and kind of just got out of it.
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And then I just, I just kept running with it.
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And I've kind of been doing it for a long time.
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Did they got out out or? Yeah, so Justin had AZ and then
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sold the Z and went back to an S14.
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He's always been known for S14. He bought like a Navan S14 with
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like AS15-SR in it. It was like super fucking clean
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car had that was Zinke converted to Cokie like D Max type 3 like
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we like essence has always loved MCR factory like Yokoi's car
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like D Max type 3S14 zombie thing like LMGT 4's that that's
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like the. Tracky era.
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The D1 SL like that's that's drifting like that's what we
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love. And then Andrew, Andrew had the
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BNL Tesla IS300, right? So Andrew was like the first
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person in the United States with BN.
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He's actually the reason why. What's the copy?
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Durflex has BN for Altezza. Yeah, yeah.
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Like if it wasn't for Andrew, no one would they.
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He sold his kit and the guy got a hold of it and copied it.
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So Andrew's the reason why everyone has BN Altezza IS300
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because he imported it like 15 years ago and he got it.
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He sold it because at one point we're on a big kick of OEM plus,
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so we did like OEM whip kit sold his BN.
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We did like R3 threes like all kinds of shit like that.
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So anyway, that's side note so y'all can thank him on that.
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But and then Emron had like a one JS 14 and then he had like
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sold that and got like a Nismo 350Z, which was like pretty
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crazy. It was like a track car.
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Yeah. That was.
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Just like, and like this was 2011, 2012, 2013.
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So it was like 4 or five years after the Nismo had just like
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finished coming out, excuse me. And he drifted that a little bit
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and then after that he started family and stuff like that.
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So he's out. Justin, whenever he built his
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white S14, he was getting it tuned and it rod knocked and he
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was just kind of like was fed up with it.
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So he he got that. He got out of South Fourteens,
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he got A-5550 Mustang and then just started like, yeah, that's
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total right. Well, he tried to do an FRS and
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like that was right whenever they first came out and he was
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just getting like kind of haggled by dealerships because
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they were new and they weren't like they were trying to do
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markup and shit like that. And he not really, so I didn't.
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Even know they did that for the yeah it.
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Was like really hard to get 1. And I think because we went to a
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Twitter dealership together, he test drove 1.
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He was like kind of, he was already kind of buying parts for
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them. And then I guess he just kind of
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was like, you know, like for the same money I could probably get
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like an S550. So we got like a EcoBoost 550
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and then like was going to drift that and like put a bigger turbo
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on it and like whatever started having issues.
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And then he went through this whole thing of like selling that
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one, getting AV81 like AGT and then doing like a crazy NA
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build. Made like 500 horsepower NA.
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And then he got rid of that and got or got rid of the NA stuff
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and did like twin turbos and made like 1000 horsepower.
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And then he got sold that car and then he did like a Camaro s
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S and this is a. Wild.
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Sperm. It's crazy like.
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Completely what is happening? Right now, yeah.
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And then and then he did like a Camaro that did like crazy
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horsepower and then got rid of that and then he's like hasn't
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bought a car since kind of thing like that like that was kind of
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like. And so.
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The two like original guys. Yeah, kind of.
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So Andrew still has his car, Like his car, his car is still
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being, it's on Minervas. It still has the B in livery.
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Like it's just tucked away, just collecting dust.
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It's it's sick. It's a relic now.
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It's kind of like a sick thing because now maybe years or
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whenever that happens, that is going to get uncovered and like
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awoken and then it's literally a time.
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Yeah, he'll drift like once every, like I would say every
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once a year now, but usually it's like two or three times,
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like once every two and three years or something like that.
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But he still has his car. Enron sold all his shit off.
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He has a family and kids and stuff like that business owner.
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So he's kind of just out of it. So yeah, I'm kind of like the
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last. I'm not, I don't consider myself
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like first Gen. essence. I'm more like second Gen.
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But like, yeah, I'm the one that's the one that keeping it
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going. Yeah, yeah.
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So that's kind of how that all began.
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And I've just been doing that ever since.
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But yeah. And who is it from?
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From SO. Now it's it's me, Kevin, Jacob
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and Harris. OK, so and that's the, that's
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the starting 4. Was it always an S13 right from
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the RIP once you were? In essence, no.
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Well, yeah, because we we. Oh wait, no, R32 R 30.
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Two well, actually I had an S13 before that I built a like a
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Cokie 180 like oh, OK, Type X car, yeah.
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That was after the Z. That was after yeah.
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So I have the Z and OK so my S13 story.
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Why did you just hit a little smirk right?
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Because so that's 13 story growing up there, we ride our
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bikes in the cul de sacs, alleyways, all that shit.
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And one time looking into a garage, I saw this S13.
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I was like, holy fuck, what is that?
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I was like, this is cool. And so this was probably, I was
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probably 1012 somewhere around there.
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And so I was like, dude, this car's sick, this car's sick,
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whatever. So when I started to get 16 to
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get a driver's license, I went to the neighbors like, hey, you
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know, because they lived a couple of streets down.
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I was like, hey, is that car for sale?
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I want to buy it. Like, no, it's our son's don't
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want to buy it. Da, da, da, da, da.
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I was all right, cool. So then I went to college and go
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get an internship during the summer.
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And every summer I'd come back and I'd go with the neighbor,
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like hey, because I'd have some money.
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Hey, is that car? For sale yet car for sale yet no
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no son or whatever yeah so after I graduated college, I think it
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was after I graduated college I visit home right I was like dude
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let's go let's go see about that car so.
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Ding Ding, Ding. Hey, Mr. Cooper.
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Hey, I remember you. Was it yesterday?
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Hey, you ready? You ready to sell that car?
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Let me talk to my son. This is the first.
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I was like, all right, cool. He's like I'll.
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Let you know tomorrow. That's right.
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So. After you had AZ already.
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Yeah, I already had the Z, Yeah. And I was already like drifting
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the Z, So I was like, all right, like Z is cool, but like it, it
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doesn't scratch the. It's like I need, I need like
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S13. I need like some Japanese shit.
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You had the influence already. Yeah, I order like because, All
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right, so side note, I was broke.
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So you spent a lot of time studying.
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That's why money can't buy style, because if you have
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money, you're not sitting there in your free time studying.
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You're right about that. You're not.
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Right. You're right about that So.
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You're not. You don't have money.
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You have time, so you spend your time studying and you're
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developing a style. If you have money you can just
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buy whatever. The fuck you want?
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And you fuck it off, right? So money cannot buy style.
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And This is why. Because you have time, you don't
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have money. So you spend your time studying,
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developing your style. And that's why the best cars
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come for the brokest people. Ow ow.
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That's a real. It is so anyways.
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That's the nicest way I've ever heard that point.
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That's how it goes. So the car I I'd studied, I was
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like, all right, this is what I want.
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I want. I lived on Sylvia Cokie 180
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thread. Yeah, me too.
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That's what I fucking wanted. I wanted all the OEM arrow, all
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that. Shit all dude.
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Literally all the people. That we need a single one of you
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guys are birth from the same. We're literally birth from the
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same thing. So that like that, that's what I
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fucking wanted. I wanted Cokie Arrow TE SR30
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Threes Sr. That's what I wanted.
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So my internship, I had one. I made really good money on an
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internship and I was like, all right, I got some money like I
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can buy this thing. So I go ask him.
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He's going let me go ask my son come back tomorrow.
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I was like all right, cool. So I come back the next morning.
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All right, if you just push it out of the garage's chores, I
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was like done 91 SE, so like all electric stuff, sunroof, manual,
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dual Cam everything free white, my favorite fucking like white.
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So that's what we did, flat tires, everything.
19:35
We pushed it. I pushed it down the fucking
19:37
block by myself like 3 streets out of the garage, down the
19:40
alley, down the street into my parents driveway.
19:43
Boom. We like try to fix it, whatever
19:45
got it so. That is.
19:49
Yeah, that is my first S 13 was free.
19:51
It was. It was mint, dude.
19:52
Fucking mint. And it was at a time when people
19:56
kind of knew that there was money, but not completely.
19:58
No, this was probably. 20/13/2014.
20:03
That was like right when people were starting to catch on.
20:05
Yeah, so got that and then I think at that point I was I had
20:11
the car stored at my parents and then I was just like collecting
20:15
stuff. So I like got like my our best
20:18
friend Lou. Lou went to lives in Dallas and
20:22
I found some dude on Craigslist had Cokie side skirts.
20:24
He picked them up 200 bucks brought them to me in West TX to
20:27
my parents house, slapped those on.
20:30
I was in Atlanta. I so if I I bought this Cokie
20:33
front bumper for like 200 bucks in Atlanta because I was living
20:36
in Alabama, I think. So this was I probably had the
20:39
car for a year now and it was at my parents and I was like
20:42
collecting parts and got like Cokie front bumper like 200
20:47
bucks in Atlanta. I did like a fiberglass front
20:49
lip because I couldn't find like a a real 1.
20:53
I think on Zilvia. I got like the rear spats.
20:57
I think the same dude that had the side skirts had the wing so
20:59
I got the wing. So boom, kit done done right.
21:03
I bought like a bride Zeta 2 and of.
21:06
Course you got a build thread on Sylvia.
21:07
Yeah, it's all there Yeah, it's still on my blog and stuff like
21:09
that. So the timeline you probably way
21:11
more accurate on that thing. But yeah, I like built the
21:13
fucking just cookie 180 car coilovers like stance coilovers.
21:17
Well fine battle version arms like very Sylvia like you know
21:23
Yeah. So that was the first car and I
21:26
bought ASR for it, swapped it, drove like two or three events
21:31
and then rod knocked it and I'm a spreadsheet guy.
21:34
So like I kept spreadsheets of everything and at that point, so
21:39
this was probably 262014 2015 2016.
21:43
So 25 year old started rolling in.
21:46
So S thirteens were available, R30 twos and stuff like that.
21:49
So I was like, and I was seeing how cheap these cars were going.
21:51
I sell how much money I had already dumped into the S13.
21:55
Because the spreadsheet. Spreadsheet I was like, wait, I
21:58
could part this bitch out right now and import a car and pocket
22:00
money in my like pocket money. So I was like, all right, we had
22:05
a friend. Anthony Pitino, D ROM has a JZX.
22:10
Oh yeah. 90 right, Yeah. So Logan's, Logan's teammate,
22:13
right? So me and Pitino have been
22:15
driving together forever, but he always had this 90 it's JZX 90.
22:19
It was not legal whatever, but it was like dude, I want a sedan
22:22
like drift car it's so cool. But I was a Nissan fanboy so I
22:25
couldn't get I didn't want a JZX.
22:27
So skyline 32 was like my only option and I was like all right,
22:31
cool like ABBA moon, super fucking cool BN I love BN.
22:36
So I was like all right. So I parted out my S13 after the
22:39
rod knocked motor I parted it all out and then I imported the
22:42
skyline. I think I got the skyline for
22:44
like 8 grand imported landed everything and I think I parted
22:47
out the S13 for like 15 K so I pocket 7 grand and the fucking
22:54
R32 showed up and it was like 2 ALSD coil overs.
23:00
It had like some arms in the rear, had a bucket seat, some
23:02
gauges. Were you just like, because this
23:05
is kind of a weird thing because you were pretty obsessed Cokie
23:08
arrow thread this and that that's the car you saw when you
23:10
were a kid this and then all of a sudden you're like, yeah, I'm
23:13
spend a lot of money on this. Let me go to a skyline.
23:16
Yeah. Was that kind of?
23:17
It was, it was more of like a business thing.
23:19
Yeah, it sounds that way. Yeah, 100% because I'm like.
23:22
Wait, dude, I could. I could fucking part this bitch
23:24
out and literally get a car that's super fucking cool and
23:29
pocket a bunch of money. Like motherfuck, not so that's
23:32
what I did. Part of that shit out got
23:34
because I I always I'm always one that like I want to do stuff
23:37
that no one else does kind of thing, you know, or like my wife
23:42
always gives me shit about it, but like she always has to make
23:44
me. She always thinks she has to
23:45
convince me it's my idea to do. Something.
23:47
Yeah, Yeah. You know, right.
23:48
Yeah, so. That's a smart lady, man.
23:50
She's. That is, she knows you.
23:52
She knows. Me really knows.
23:53
You. Yeah, 17 years deep right now,
23:55
so she knows me. So yeah.
23:57
Anyways, it was like, yeah, like I have to and get this 32
24:02
because no one else has one. It'll be cool.
24:04
I'll make it sick, like DN, whatever.
24:06
It was black, whatever. And I had like a checklist.
24:08
I was like, all right, I want a black one.
24:11
It has to be sedan. And now you're veering away from
24:14
the OEM stuff. Is this your first?
24:16
Like I'm going to make a boy car, right?
24:19
Now, yeah, I wanted like that big shit because like, for me,
24:23
like, I love being being cool. That's just, I love being.
24:27
But I love fucking Cookie 180, yeah.
24:30
That's. Dude, nothing is better than no
24:32
half. He wasn't smiling when he said
24:34
the first part, by the way. No, but we literally just talked
24:37
about this with Kevin. We were like just talking about
24:40
how it's weird how we're all in the same thread.
24:42
Yeah, but we all like VN sports era too.
24:45
Yeah, It's like we took a little piece of that thread.
24:47
The spectrum like I love 180, like Cokie Arrow.
24:50
Yeah. And the fucking other spectrum
24:52
being, yeah, there's no in between.
24:54
Like big body kid break. Only the only other middle thing
24:57
is D Max Tech 3. Yeah.
25:00
I think that's like maybe that's what it is.
25:02
Maybe it's like OE arrow like I love TRD IS300.
25:07
I think that's a sick kit, like seventeens like.
25:11
Very. Do you mean like the Altezza?
25:12
One yeah, the Altezza TRD kit, the lip kit.
25:14
I think that's that's fucking perfect on those cars because it
25:17
reminds me of like a Corolla esque kind of thing, right.
25:20
It's like simple low maintenance, but like it looks
25:21
cool like Cokie 180 like that's like Nissan nailed it.
25:26
D Max type 3. I think that's like the perfect
25:28
mid range aero kit, you know, like it scratches that.
25:32
Like I want to be professional but like I'm still just
25:36
grassroots, like just getting by, you know, kind of thing like
25:40
that and beings like I'm letting my nuts hang, you know.
25:44
Like. That's.
25:44
Just how it goes. That is the I was against the
25:47
whole being not against it, but in my mind I was like, I can't
25:51
drive with all that on my car. I'm going to blow it up in New
25:54
Jersey on a fucking. Second yeah, 100.
25:55
Percent. That is the point and.
25:57
Yeah, that's the whole fucking point.
25:58
Nothing makes your Dick bigger than be like I got this shit.
26:02
It looks fucking meant the first lap.
26:03
I'm blowing that bitch. Up like literally the rear
26:05
bumper there just like that's the best part of the car dude.
26:07
The whole, the whole other side's blown off because someone
26:09
hit me. You a fuck.
26:10
I'll swipe again, buy it, fix it, go.
26:12
In the in the podcast studio, I'm only looking at Frankie's
26:16
car on the whole fucking wall. We brought this up the other
26:18
day. It's like a shrine.
26:19
Yeah. And the entire time I was like,
26:21
if I try to drive with Frankie and my car isn't that low on the
26:24
ground, it's gonna look retarded.
26:25
Yeah, you have to be pretty low with BNBN is not like right
26:29
away. Yeah, which is funny because it
26:30
was probably designed to do the opposite, but you know, it just
26:34
looks good when it's low. Right.
26:35
Yeah no like even this car like I've noticed whenever I bought
26:39
the BN fenders, the radius on the front fenders is higher than
26:42
the radius on the rear, so you can actually run the car kind of
26:46
high that's why the gap is like that so you have clearance yeah
26:51
yeah yeah it's really weird cuz I was like dude why the fuck in
26:53
the front of my car so high it's because the radius of the
26:55
fenders and I think they changed the design they.
26:57
Probably did, yeah. I mean.
27:00
Yeah, but it is what it is. But but yeah, like that's just
27:03
how it is. I don't know that's.
27:04
It's just so. It's just so weird.
27:06
I, like some of us, are in the same exact mindset.
27:09
Yeah, this is how it is. And you are?
27:10
All meticulous as fuck. Everybody.
27:13
I'm not. Jimmy.
27:16
This is not it. I put a lot of effort.
27:17
Put this card again. You should ask the boys.
27:19
They're like, dude, Jimmy, like, so.
27:21
All right, You know Ilia, right? Yeah.
27:23
There's a joke that I have with Ilia that Ilia like is like 85%
27:27
guy right, So he had this fucking a 31 Sephiro right and
27:32
he put IS300 side scripts on it. If you ever saw them, it looks
27:36
like he to cut them to fit thing.
27:39
He was like blinds like just cut that shit because it was like
27:42
all haggard like missed cuts like this.
27:44
But it's very Ilia esque right, ask Canvan and Damon.
27:48
I'm not OCD like them, like my shit looks good on the Internet,
27:51
but you could probably go and be like OK like this guy did put
27:54
some more effort in like fitting the kit and like trying to get
27:57
out of that. There's also.
27:58
Like an art, though with some people that they know they're
28:01
not perfectionists, yeah, but for some reason they execute
28:04
everything perfectly. That's I'm not a perfectionist,
28:06
that's. Mine.
28:07
I know that I'm not going to spend the time because it's not
28:09
the the investment isn't worth the return.
28:12
It's just not the return on investment.
28:14
The ROI is just not there. So I'm not going to spend the
28:16
extra like two hours to make something fit whenever it fits
28:20
decently right now. And I know that I'm either going
28:22
to hit something, fall off, it's going to look good on the
28:25
Internet, like it really doesn't fucking matter.
28:28
Anytime you dirt drop the back end of the car and then a piece
28:32
of the bumper kind of just. That shit looks so fucking.
28:36
Oh yeah, like in videos. Yeah, yeah, it's letting the
28:39
nuts hang. God damn.
28:41
So I don't know, I, I at the a lot of things that I talk about
28:44
on here, I feel like a lot of people find relatable.
28:46
So that right there is pretty fucking.
28:48
Reliable. Yeah.
28:49
It's just normal shit dude. Because like.
28:51
People glorify people all the time.
28:52
We're just normal people. It's really I'm no different
28:55
from anybody else all the time. They just put people on
28:58
pedestals and they shouldn't. What made you go back to this
29:01
style? So the the D Max car the D Max
29:05
car, I wanted to try something different.
29:07
I had the opportunity. The R32 is a very quick cutter
29:11
car. You have like 2 kits B in
29:13
vertex. PS Deuce is pretty much vertex
29:16
right? OEM shit on 32 sedan is kind of
29:19
but that. Car was fucking good man that
29:21
R32. But yeah, like you, just like
29:26
you didn't have very much to explore.
29:28
And like I said, your Koi D Max Type 3, like I wanted to do
29:32
that. I wanted to make AD1SL car.
29:34
That's what I wanted. And I was kind of at the time
29:37
keeping up with the Joneses, right?
29:38
Like I saw a bunch of shit. I was kind of getting trying to
29:41
get myself out of the comfort zone.
29:42
So I wanted to like, you know, like do what front St. was
29:46
doing, you know, kind of drive like I did.
29:47
I could do that. Like why the fuck can I not like
29:50
and make a push and like drive like these guys and do that
29:53
stuff and. What were you?
29:54
What did you think you were missing?
29:55
I don't know I, I don't know. I just.
29:57
Like why do people think? I don't know, it was just kind
29:59
of like, I saw what they were doing.
30:01
I was like, dude, that looks like a lot of fun.
30:02
It was the yeah, they, they. Changed their because they were
30:05
into exactly that shit too. Like low everything and then
30:07
they made it. Work yeah.
30:09
And so it was something that I've never done.
30:12
So like, I was like, let me try the high car thing.
30:14
Like, but I know I can make it look cool.
30:17
Like I can make it work. Like, it's not hard.
30:19
Like all I do is find a cool car that I've seen in a magazine,
30:23
like in a door tent and just copy it.
30:24
Yeah, I'm not original at all. The cars look good.
30:26
I just study. Real spot.
30:28
Yeah, I'm not original. A little bit like a little bit
30:30
of your. There's a little bit of my touch
30:31
here and there, but like, like this car, like okay, it's just a
30:36
fucking blue deep BN car from years ago.
30:39
That's all it is. To me this is just your R32.
30:41
Yeah that's the whole thing like the the the the yellow R32 yeah
30:47
was my yellow 350Z that I could never like I never felt
30:50
accomplished never did right that yellow 350Z OK so I painted
30:54
the R32 yellow cuz I felt I. The fact that the Z was yellow
30:57
was awesome. Yeah, yeah, one year 05, that's
31:00
the only year that came yellow. So you like round tripped on?
31:03
That well, because I didn't I didn't accomplish the Nismo like
31:06
my my ZI wanted to do Nismo V3 yellow with like Tes, like
31:11
that's what I wanted to do because they never did a yellow
31:14
Nismo and like yellow was the color and like that's what I
31:17
wanted to do and I never accomplished that color.
31:19
I never conquered it, so whenever I did the BN yellow
31:22
with the tribal and all that shit, I was like, oh I nailed
31:24
it. I accomplished yellow.
31:25
I was so mad as fuck because I missed the red so I remember
31:28
that well. The car's getting painted red
31:29
again. Yeah, so, but the the R32 red
31:33
BN, like, I mean, Justin's car was red Essence had always been
31:37
known for red. I love red.
31:39
So the idea was like, all right, well, let me do our red R32
31:44
because no one's ever done like a really the the pictures of the
31:48
stock pictures of Vertex for R32 arrow is red, but it's like kind
31:52
of shitty because it's like a stock body kind of thing.
31:54
Like whatever. I was like, I can make a better
31:56
red R32. So that's what I did.
31:58
You know, I just made the VN red, you know, like no one ever
32:00
did that. And then the R32 is yellow and I
32:05
was like, oh dude, I really like the red.
32:08
So then I was like, oh, I'm just going to do red now because
32:09
that's like the essence color. Tev had painted his car red to
32:13
match my 32 debut. Yeah, dude, that was the that
32:16
was the real shit ever. He.
32:17
Was like it's. Red, Yeah.
32:18
I was so high because he was like, I was like, don't fucking
32:20
tell me. I was like, if you want to paint
32:22
your car red, that's fine. I don't want to pressure you,
32:24
but paint it red if you want to, whatever.
32:26
But I knew he was like, at the time wanted to do like black.
32:29
He was kind of considering maybe keeping the OE blue, like
32:32
whatever. And I was like, do whatever you
32:33
want. I don't want to pressure you
32:34
because painting a car's a big deal, especially him at his age.
32:38
I was like, I'd really love for you to be red so we can match.
32:40
I'd be sick, but like, don't because I you know who you know
32:43
because. Then you feel like you're.
32:44
Yeah, because then I feel guilty because yeah, he like, oh, it's
32:47
kind of red. It's not really my car.
32:49
And then he'll like not be into it.
32:50
But anyways, y'all, y'all heard that story.
32:52
So I painted the this car red because I felt like I scratched
32:57
the X it the itch for the the pink car, you know, it was like.
33:01
You got that out already. Yeah, like that car.
33:03
Was sick too though. And yeah, it was cool.
33:06
I drove sick. I just didn't feel it was mine.
33:09
I kind of just like made it mechanically, right?
33:11
Because I wanted like a driver's car, like the R32, you, you can
33:17
make them drift fine. They're it's fine, whatever.
33:20
But I'm like, let's actually see what a real proper setup car
33:24
feels like. That's what I wanted to try.
33:26
What did? What were your fine like did?
33:28
What were your? Was it worth it?
33:32
So, so when I, when I first did it, I was like, oh fuck yeah, I
33:35
get this. This makes sense.
33:37
Like it works, right? So I drove all last year.
33:39
I was sick. 230 fives in front, 260 fives in back works and
33:42
stuff like that, Right. So the reason why I didn't feel
33:47
like the car was mine was because I built it mechanically.
33:49
But aesthetically I let desire do everything.
33:52
I was like, here, here's a clean slate, here's a checkbook, do
33:56
whatever you want. I want something cool.
33:58
I like your style. Let's create something.
34:00
So that's what we created. But at the end of the day, I
34:03
didn't feel like it was really my car.
34:06
You know, I think it was someone else's colours.
34:08
I mean, I I I was like, Oh yeah, yeah, the pink works like Harris
34:11
was like, dude, you should do this pink.
34:12
I was like, yeah, this cool, this is cool pink, let's do
34:14
this. But it wasn't like, OK, like
34:18
let's do like yellow because I think I was originally doing
34:20
yellow. I had that car in like every
34:22
colour like yellow, blue, white like the white D Max coupe or
34:27
the Sylvia that has the 1 via front.
34:30
Yeah. You'd you'd recognize when you
34:33
see it. I wanted that car, but it's
34:35
Sylvia. That was like the idea.
34:37
Yeah. Yeah.
34:38
So anyways. And that's a Is that a different
34:40
car than this or is this the same?
34:41
Car. This is the same pink car?
34:42
I thought so. Yeah.
34:42
Same pink car, Yeah. I feel like the the designing
34:45
part of it at least since we're DIY people, if there's something
34:49
that you can learn or teach yourself before you pay somebody
34:53
else, it's not about the pay thing.
34:54
It's about the I could just learn this on my own type thing.
34:57
So I feel like that's where I would feel like since I didn't,
35:01
I didn't draw any of this. And maybe that's not even to the
35:03
fault of the designers either, which makes it even shittier
35:07
because you don't even know why you don't like.
35:08
It man, No, no, no. It I mean, it was cool because
35:10
like, we would go back and forth and like, all right, let's
35:11
change this, change this. Like at the time I had my
35:14
daughter, her name's Lily. So we put like Lily flowers on
35:18
it. So the flowers on it, those are
35:19
Lily, right? So it was like sick.
35:20
Yeah. So like that kind of stuff.
35:22
We did that kind of stuff. And I like I definitely put like
35:25
some effort into it, but it I don't know, I think I just
35:27
strayed too far away from me, but it was cool.
35:33
Like that car was sick. It looked the that's why I'm
35:35
acting. It looked.
35:36
The part it drove, the part it did, it did it, but it just
35:39
wasn't me. So it was me and Kev just
35:43
bullshitting. And Kev was like, dude, you
35:45
should just go fucking be in again.
35:47
I was like, all right, fuck it, let's go.
35:49
And so that's what I did. I just went back to being in
35:51
red. I was like fuck it, let's just
35:53
do it. That's why everyone was so
35:56
geeked and that you were back. Yeah, that's what I did.
35:58
And then like I tried to sell these wheels for like 4 years.
36:01
They just sat in the attic and no one fucking bought them.
36:02
I was like fuck it. But wait, the car was set up to
36:05
drive really well this and that, but then you ended up bringing
36:08
it back down. Just dumped it on.
36:09
It's fucking nuts. Dude didn't touch.
36:11
Anything else? No.
36:12
I didn't even align it for the last year.
36:13
I finally had the first alignment.
36:15
All I did was paint the bitch red, throw all the BN catalog on
36:18
it, dump it on Chrome wheels, and it drives better.
36:21
Naturally. I don't I Well, the only thing I
36:23
did do is I changed tires. I went to a 2:15.
36:26
I've always ran like a sticky front.
36:28
So I used to run like Falcon 6 Fifteens.
36:31
Yeah, or I ran. Everybody.
36:34
Or I ran the Valeno O8 Rs OK, like a stickier tire because I
36:39
love the grip. I was like, let's try to loose
36:41
the car up. Let me try that this year.
36:42
So I just put like Acceleras in the front.
36:45
Sick car snaps. Yeah, a mine drove really good
36:48
on Acceleras. Too.
36:49
I like it. I like it in the front, like
36:51
less grip. It's a little bit more snappier
36:53
like. The first thing I noticed too
36:54
was the wheels, because I'm on some like, I am the poor guy.
36:59
I don't think I've built anything really really super
37:01
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37:04
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And I was like, fuck yeah, yeah, somebody's rocking something
38:28
that nobody does. Nobody knows how much those are.
38:30
What? The.
38:31
Deposit, it doesn't matter. I literally can't.
38:34
Like I don't even know how the fuck I.
38:36
With the caps too. Yeah, they.
38:38
Like they look good? I don't know how, see how did I
38:42
find these? And they're wide, dude.
38:44
A lot of those wheels don't you typically.
38:46
Come like, no, they're not yeah, they're like the perfect spec
38:49
they're. Here here's some here's some
38:52
wheel spec stuff. Check this out.
38:54
This is a real fucking flex. So yeah, you can't find them
38:56
because they're monoblocks or they're like 2 piece welding or
38:59
whatever or whatever, right? But you can't like I've asked
39:02
the local wheel guy, he's like, dude, I don't want to rebuild
39:04
these things like whatever. Like because I've I've tried to
39:06
find like spares 17 by 9, like plus 24 sick 18 by 10, like +2
39:14
or +8 or something like that. Like you can't get anything
39:18
better than that. And I still run.
39:19
So this car, like it's still the same setup as B knuckle.
39:23
It's still B knuckle car. It still has you can check it's
39:26
like double stack spacer. I think it's like 40 mil.
39:28
Spacer I do see. It it's, it's the same thing.
39:30
It's just dumped. And it probably works just.
39:34
It drives so. Good.
39:35
It drives. So I watched it drive.
39:37
Yeah, it's. Sick and 265 is still on.
39:39
The route, well, I just went to 260 fives.
39:41
OK, I've been 230 fives. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
39:44
I went to the tire shop and they just put 260 fives on accident,
39:47
so I just drove 260 fives. So.
39:49
Two 15265. South, you lowered it, change
39:52
the colour, did all that and downsize the tires.
39:54
Yeah. And then went back.
39:55
That's it. Yeah, just loosen the car up.
39:57
That's all I did. And yeah, I drive sick.
40:00
They set you up. They were like no, no, no, no,
40:02
no. Give them.
40:02
Give them. The no they just because I
40:04
assume everybody runs 26 fives. I was like oh fucking whatever.
40:06
They rent 26 fives all double cup.
40:07
It was fine. Yeah.
40:09
Man, yeah, that's all it is. All I did was lower it.
40:10
I didn't align it. I didn't do nothing.
40:12
I just maxed out the coilovers. What is the engine set up on
40:14
this thing? It's a fully built SRS 15 Sr.
40:18
like 4 draws Pistons. Yeah.
40:20
Tomei Cams S15 turbo E85 power FC.
40:28
Is that the club T-28 Origin? Yeah, T28I was gonna nothing
40:34
more. There was a brand new one in a
40:36
box at Faction before we left to come here and I was like, I
40:40
gotta take a picture of this video.
40:41
Jim, you want me to bring this? Yeah. 28 Yeah, no, yeah, that's
40:47
all it is. It's it's.
40:47
That's not the same motor from your Skyline.
40:49
No, no, no, no. The Skyline still has S15 motor,
40:52
but it has Tom's old 3071 set up on it.
40:54
Oh, really? Yeah.
40:55
So the skyline makes like 407 horsepower.
40:57
Why are there pieces of Tom all? In Oh no, Josh is Josh is not
41:00
Tom's. OK.
41:01
That's because when we were at Kevin's house at right at the
41:04
end, Kevin was like, Oh yeah, that was Tom.
41:08
I was like, yo, you got fucked. Your car got fucked up here.
41:10
He's like, yeah, that was Tom. I was like, of course.
41:11
I was like, we're. Pretty far from home to here.
41:14
Yeah, no, no, I the sees garage set up 37 one like that's their
41:18
tried and true. And I love sees garage.
41:20
I fucking love sees garage SO371 set up like that was the dream
41:23
Turbo and Josh was, you know, doing whatever gay shit.
41:27
So I was like send that shit to me.
41:30
So I put it on the skyline. GG.
41:32
Series G Series. Shit so.
41:35
Is that is that the argument right now and you guys?
41:37
Is no, it's fine. Yeah, it was.
41:39
The only thing that I hate about the G series is that the
41:41
intake's 3 inch and not 4. That's the only thing.
41:44
Because on a 3071 it's a 4 inch intake.
41:46
So you just have that big Dick intake and 3071 you have the
41:50
skinny pencil Dick shit. And then if you try to put the
41:52
coupler that goes from three to four, it just looks stupid.
41:54
Yeah, that would look worse. It looks gay.
41:56
So yeah, that's that's my whole gripe with the new shit, because
41:59
I don't mind technology. That's cool.
42:01
Like do whatever. But I it.
42:02
Doesn't look as it. Like it just doesn't look as
42:05
cool. 37 one is like proportionately sized turbo is
42:10
Sr. Like it looks good.
42:12
Like in the bed, it looks good. Yeah, sizing matters.
42:15
I fucking love it. Here.
42:16
I mean, Josh doesn't like it either.
42:17
Yeah, we're being honest. Like, no, Josh doesn't like it.
42:19
Yeah, he just knows that it works great, you know, So so.
42:22
What's the TDO 6 obsession? Classic era, like just classic
42:27
Japanese. That's what everyone ran like.
42:29
But also that turbo and so laggy.
42:32
Yeah. So like, it's Sr. safe.
42:34
That's what it is. I never thought about that.
42:35
Yeah. The torque is like later in the
42:37
power band now down low so you're not blowing shit up.
42:39
So if you can just drive with a laggy turbo, which is possible,
42:43
you're not gonna you're it's Sr. safe.
42:45
Yeah, I don't. I never get when people are like
42:46
safe, you know, I need a low end torque.
42:48
It's like. No, that's what damages the
42:51
motors. Yeah, I'm like, you don't really
42:52
need that at all. I don't know if you've gone
42:54
drifting before. Someone has told me that it was
42:56
like oh it. It sounds quite fun.
42:58
It works at peak efficiency for Sr. and I thought they're
43:01
bullshit and they'll. Tell you what, they're.
43:02
Yeah, that's probably what they're.
43:03
They mean yeah, yeah, I think yeah, it works.
43:05
I mean, but in drifting you're at fucking higher RPMS anyways,
43:07
Yeah. And if you're like in a dead
43:10
corner, you just gotta do good footwork and keep the RPMS up,
43:12
yeah, and you're fine. It's the same reason why people
43:14
like blow gearboxes and shit like that.
43:16
Tom yeah, we've talked about that lately too, because they're
43:18
just like, what the fuck is it with Americans and just blowing
43:21
these? Transmissions, yeah, Because
43:22
they're like BOM, bom, BOM. They're not just like slipping
43:24
the clutch, working it. That's all it is.
43:26
It's footwork. It's just not studying.
43:28
You think? There's nothing not being broke.
43:30
Yeah, something as much as like, do you ever see when though when
43:34
Tom or Josh drive and shift something, you know what I mean?
43:37
There's like a little bit of a when you're watching the old
43:39
videos. When you're watching the old
43:41
videos, they're like not fucking jamming that shit in a.
43:44
Well it's also but like Tom has a fucking dog box.
43:47
Doesn't he? No prior, prior.
43:48
I'm talking prior. Prior the dog box was a result.
43:50
Of all of that, shit's probably rusted up in fucking Jersey with
43:53
salt and shit. No, it's hell over there.
43:55
It's OK. Yeah, that's, you know, whatever
43:57
We don't have the. Day.
43:57
It's literally a frozen hell right now, Yeah.
43:59
So that's probably why they do not.
44:01
Want to go home? But no, like, I don't know, it's
44:04
just driving. Because I was in, I was in Japan
44:06
that time with them and we're and the Japanese dudes were
44:09
like, I was looking at their cars and I was like, what is
44:11
this fucking thing? It was like a breather thing for
44:13
the trans. I was like, what is this?
44:15
They're like, oh, that saves the transmissions.
44:17
I was like, oh, we'll find out this weekend.
44:19
Oh yeah. Because I was like, you brought
44:20
the best people to test this and they just blew every trans up.
44:23
I was like. Whatever they did, what was it a
44:26
couple years ago when I went to Japan, Yusuf took me to B West.
44:32
Where you're talking. To a chunky buy and he was like,
44:34
he was just giving me tips on stuff and I wrote it all in my
44:37
notes and stuff like like that. The breather on the gearbox,
44:41
you're supposed to like run a catch can and you run that line
44:44
from the gearbox up to like the corner of the course port and
44:48
you fill it from there, but you're supposed to fill it up
44:50
some. So you're using the breather
44:52
line. As an as.
44:53
A reservoir as a fluid and then on the gearboxes Z32 boxes that
44:59
mid plate mm Hmm. Over time it gets heat
45:02
distorted. So you're supposed.
45:03
To replace that. Yeah, they're actually, I
45:05
learned in Depends, yeah. So you need to replace that.
45:08
So there's like a bunch of tricks that they, those guys
45:10
have known and like nothing's published.
45:13
Yeah, you won't know until you go over there and talk to.
45:15
Someone you have to like, figure it out and try it out and do it
45:19
and shit like that is. That plate, that plate's also on
45:20
the RB trans. Yeah, they're all the same.
45:22
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We just got out of.
45:25
Z32RB trans. You got to replace that plate
45:27
over time or like, yeah, or I've had it, or I've had like people
45:33
who don't use dowel pens on their gearboxes.
45:35
So your alignment's not right, so your motor's going to sag a
45:37
little bit and it throws the pitch of your middle.
45:41
Like the? Dowel pens on the bell housing
45:43
and shit. Yeah, what?
45:44
Yeah. You mean have both of them so
45:47
that your motor doesn't like sag a little bit after like bolts
45:50
and stuff like that, so that your middle driveline rod
45:52
doesn't have like whatever or it'll snap, like wear shit out.
45:56
There's like little stuff like that.
45:58
I'm telling you, you have to listen to the engineers and
45:59
manufacturers. Yeah, They designed it for a
46:01
reason. They tested it longer than you.
46:03
You don't, you know. Yeah, even that little plate
46:05
might do something in between. Yeah, it really will.
46:07
I don't know. Everyone's like, yeah, fuck
46:09
that. Fuck the top bullets.
46:10
Fuck this. I'm like why?
46:11
Don't we try to put it back in the way it came out first?
46:14
Absolutely. We kind of covered a lot about
46:16
the car and now I kind of want to bring up something that
46:18
Frankie's been talking about, which is like that this is the
46:21
new Style Haven. Dude.
46:23
OK this. Is yeah, this is yeah.
46:26
How did you quit? I'm calling this the new
46:28
Chicago, basically, yeah. He has been.
46:31
That was all it was. Yeah, it was the first one
46:36
about. I was like, I have to go.
46:38
I went by myself, I flew up there, met everybody.
46:42
I probably met you around. The time I think so.
46:43
I think we met at about 1:00. We did the same thing.
46:45
Me and my buddy, we we drove there with Boss Town.
46:48
Didn't even know them. Yeah, just like went up there,
46:50
got in the car and went across the country.
46:52
Yep, that's what I did. I was like, at the time it was
46:56
lazy rocket. Yeah, because we both had ZS.
46:59
OK, so we're like the only two, Like what I felt at the time was
47:03
like too cool, like Z guys that like new Japanese drifting and
47:08
like loved that era. But we knew we had ZS.
47:10
We knew we weren't like we couldn't achieve that with AZ,
47:12
but like we couldn't get out of the Z.
47:14
We needed the Z to like go to work and school and shit.
47:16
So me and Corey linked up and I just rode with him and he was
47:21
from Chicago. So went to final, first, final
47:24
bout, and that's where I met Damon and Teddy and everybody
47:26
else and then that kind of thing.
47:29
I was like, dude, this is what I want to do for the rest of my
47:32
life. Like this, this drifting.
47:34
That first final bout trip for a lot of you guys was so neat to
47:38
me because you all congregated there and now it's years down
47:42
the line and we're still doing it.
47:44
Yeah, I haven't missed 1 yet. Yeah, like that's, that's insane
47:47
to me. And that was an era where how
47:49
are you guys even learning about?
47:52
It was just like. Everyone's Instagram.
47:55
Was yeah, but like you, just. Followed certain people and.
47:58
You. Knew that stuff and then final
48:01
bot 2 I had the 32 and like Revgasm had been like Revgasm
48:06
had followed me because of the 180 or my S13.
48:11
Oh I just call S13's 180's because the hatches.
48:13
Right. Yeah.
48:14
Yeah, yeah, there used to be a big fight about.
48:16
I think everyone gave up on that now.
48:18
I think so too, but. Like finally.
48:19
Yeah, anyways, patches are 180's.
48:22
So my 180, I had that and Josh was like following me on
48:25
Instagram, I think about it. And then I had the 32 and we
48:29
made like some comments or something like that about like
48:33
final bout, like bringing this to final bout or something like
48:35
that. And I was like Josh, I will just
48:37
find about. Let me know.
48:38
So then, yeah, at the time front about two we drove, it was me
48:43
and Andrew, Justin and Enron had kind of like nod about it.
48:47
So then we pulled Patino D R.E.M., Petino was our third and
48:50
that was essence for front about two.
48:52
So it was all sedan. I remember that.
48:54
It was all sedan, Yeah. And we joked around.
48:55
We were like all our cars for sale.
48:57
We put for sale signs in in the pits.
48:59
So then I drove final about two. White JZX.
49:02
And. Then yeah, it was your.
49:03
Car was black. My car was black, Andrew's IS
49:06
was 3 was silver and then Pitino's JZX was maroon.
49:11
Did you have T37? Though I had blitzo threes, OK
49:14
blitzo threes be in and I St. drove it from here to Chicago
49:17
for final bout and drove it back.
49:18
I heard about that, that that is your MO.
49:20
You like to drive it around, which is.
49:22
Great. Not anymore.
49:23
I don't do that. Shit, that's all.
49:24
Fine, yeah, fuck all. That is that where you're what
49:26
hair? That's where all the hair was.
49:28
No stress. No, that's watching kids.
49:32
But yeah, I did that. That was final about two, final
49:34
about 3 went back and that was like the big one.
49:36
That was like. About 3.
49:38
About 3 was a big one that was like the the conjugation like
49:41
everyone messed up, like we all. It was like the alumni for fun
49:46
about 1 and find about two. We weren't like driving.
49:49
Some people were driving, but we're all like this big group
49:51
chat. We rented out Chief Keefs house.
49:55
Yeah, I remember that. One yeah, we did the big party
49:57
for like 3 days. What?
49:58
What? What?
49:59
You didn't tell me any of it. Yeah.
50:01
We did. No, you don't.
50:02
Listen now. Yeah.
50:04
Never I would have heard you say the words, Chief.
50:06
Keef, I didn't. I didn't rent it out.
50:07
I was just we went there and. Yeah, yeah, Fresh tree showed
50:10
up. Oh, you guys showed up.
50:11
We. Cranked the heat up and then
50:12
left and and locked the thermostat.
50:13
Yeah, shot the dice in the basement show like that.
50:17
Yeah, it was. It was that whole thing, the
50:19
whole fun about 3 that was like the big one that kind of
50:21
solidified that like core group of fun about.
50:23
Like OGS? I remember that.
50:24
Yeah, the photo on the stairs. The photo on the stairs like
50:26
that was us. Dude, I feel like I'm there
50:29
right now. That was probably so fun.
50:32
Yeah, it was sick. Like because now you had to, you
50:34
had the opportunity to look back at 1:00 and 2:00 because now the
50:36
third year that happened already.
50:38
That was the one where me and Josh raced St. raced in some
50:41
side street in Chicago and our fucking body kits are like
50:43
coming off and like flapping and we're just like.
50:46
Yeah, so like there was that one and but at final about 3, Simba
50:51
and Ilya were like, we're done, we're done doing final about
50:54
like we're going to move on doing stuff like that.
50:56
But like we're all sitting there and Simba and Ilya were like, we
50:59
want you guys to like take what we did here and like take you
51:02
back to your places and plant the seeds and stuff like that.
51:05
And so at the time, I think it was probably about final about
51:09
two era. We're still doing Lone Star
51:11
Drift and I was like, all right, there's a group of us inside
51:16
Lone Star that like, like this shit, let's just do our own
51:19
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51:22
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51:24
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So here's the here's it is I had commissioned do from the East
53:40
Coast fortune. He's a graphic designer.
53:46
I think he's a black dude. Voyager.
53:51
Fuck. Where from the east you think?
53:54
Like I'm thinking like maybe not New York, but like maybe more
53:59
like Boston, MA or. Something.
54:01
Like that? Yeah, maybe.
54:02
We just don't know. Him.
54:03
It's like Fantastic Voyage, something like.
54:05
That sounds familiar. Right.
54:06
I hope. Yes.
54:08
Oh, what? I think so.
54:10
So. I used to talk to him and I was
54:12
like, dude, I have this idea. I want to do Texas street legal
54:15
but I want the D1 SL banner. And he was like, oh that's easy.
54:19
So we just changed D1 to TX and it was street legal.
54:22
And my idea was that we were going to run like this
54:24
underground secret Japanese St. thing inside Lone Star Drift and
54:30
it would be a communal judge each other like, OK, this event,
54:34
you were the best driver this weekend.
54:36
Here's your trophy. Very like, you know, like the
54:38
little Japanese trophy, like just a bro thing that like all
54:41
the style guys at that time would just be like, let's run
54:45
this banner. Let's just do Texas street
54:46
legal. We have all street legal cars.
54:48
Like we wanted to follow like D1 rules, like we wanted radios
54:52
registration, like run the cat catalytic converter just like
54:56
D1S. Oh, D1 lights.
54:58
Yeah, yeah. And just do that and like just
55:00
have our own gentleman's agreement.
55:02
Well, as soon as I built that, coincidentally, Aaron Lossy just
55:05
happened to be like, hey, drifting pro AM is getting a
55:08
little bit too expensive, let's start doing a street legal.
55:10
And I said lossy, I already have this.
55:13
Here's the banner. Let's do it.
55:15
But please just make sure the cars like have all their panel
55:18
because that was like in the middle of the missile crisis and
55:21
I was like, please just make sure all the cars are clean,
55:22
stuff like that. He's all right.
55:23
Cool. So we did that and we all
55:25
competed and it was kind of cool, but it he he just took it
55:29
a different direction and I'd already kind of did a rookie
55:32
mistake and gave him like. Some sort of a creative right
55:35
type of? Deal.
55:36
So I lost Texas street legal. I was like, all right, whatever,
55:38
fuck it. So at that point, that's
55:40
whenever we started to not drive Lone Star and we started
55:45
driving, we started trying to do our own events at the police
55:48
Academy and stuff like that and trying to recreate that
55:51
ourselves. And how many of you were there,
55:54
you think? It was really essence of fat
55:55
cats at the time. That's it.
55:56
OK, so not too many. No, it was like.
55:58
Enough to start, dude. Yeah, I think maybe like. 10
56:01
Because fat cats was deep. That cats was like Mike, Josh,
56:05
Zach, Eddie, Casey. Who else did they have?
56:10
Yeah, we're about to meet them tomorrow.
56:11
Yeah, I think that like, like those guys, and it was like me,
56:14
Harris, Kevin, there was a couple other outliers that
56:18
didn't really have teams or maybe they did, but like they
56:21
were the only ones driving. But like it was really like 10
56:24
or 12 of us. That's it.
56:26
And you know, we rent, Mike rented out like police Academy
56:30
for us because he knew like the cop there or something like
56:32
that. And we do that kind of shit.
56:34
And that's whenever we, one of the Lone Star guys that we knew
56:41
had driven speed sports because they were doing like track
56:44
events. Normal track grip driving thing.
56:48
And his name is Brad. And Brad had went out there and
56:51
drifted because he knew the guy who was running the grip thing.
56:55
And I messaged Brad. I was like, dude, please.
56:57
Like whenever you go out there, let me come drive.
56:59
Like, I just want to come drive. So he's like, yeah, yeah, I'll,
57:02
I'll put a good word in for you. Whatever.
57:03
So it was like me, Andrew, Zach Triggs.
57:07
And who else went Brad? I think that's it and we got to
57:13
go drive speed forts and I posted a clip and this was like
57:16
2019 at this point. I had thought that this was all
57:19
like a a long no, dude, this that's kind of recent.
57:23
Yeah, it. Was like. 20, 2018-2019.
57:25
Dude. So this was like, OK, so fun
57:27
about, let's see, first fun about was. 14. 14 fun about two
57:32
is 1516 so like 1718 arrow was when we were like in limbo.
57:38
This street legal thing is not really working.
57:40
The R32 is like in paint jail for a year, so I didn't drive
57:43
for a whole year. And then that's whenever we're
57:46
like, dude, fuck it. Like let's try to try to do this
57:48
like style, like cool, like what we like kind of thing.
57:54
So then we did like police Academy a couple times.
57:56
I drove speed sports Simba and I think Simba or Ilia at that
58:00
point were like, dude, where the fuck is this track?
58:02
I was like, dude, it's in Houston.
58:04
You know, it's like kind of owner whatever, and then Simba
58:08
was like, yo, we're going to start doing these like special
58:10
stages and this is going to be perfect for like the South.
58:12
I was like, all right, cool, so this is what we're doing.
58:16
Simba had got into contract with the track owner, did all that
58:20
and set up like find about South and I like seems like, hey, I
58:23
need help, like who's in Texas, who can drive this stuff, yada,
58:26
yada, yada. So it was like me some and Ilia
58:28
like trying to put on this special safe S to like try to
58:32
get the first event going. I was working at like this big
58:37
off like warehouse and. I remember seeing the photos,
58:40
yeah. So we get like shipped shit.
58:43
Like we just like shipped all the final bout stuff to my work.
58:45
Like we brought all the cars in, like all that other stuff, got
58:48
everybody ready and like did the first special stage and someone
58:51
was like, dude, you have to keep this track to yourself.
58:54
Like you have to keep doing. The liaison be the leader
58:57
because dude, you have an info everybody I got to attend one of
59:01
the events. Everybody there like has just an
59:06
an obscene amount of respect for you.
59:08
That's pretty fucking rare. It's pretty sick.
59:10
That's really rare. It's really sick, like rare as
59:13
fuck. Well, I don't know.
59:15
I did. I wasn't even supposed to be the
59:17
one. I think Simba and Ilia went to
59:19
like Fat Cat Mike and was like, you should do this and kind of
59:23
thing because at the time I put like a lot of effort into S,
59:27
like especially S the first one. And I didn't feel I got the
59:30
recognition for it like from Simba and Ilia.
59:32
Like, like, it's like Simba, like Ilia was here in 3L, They
59:36
like, stayed at my house for a week and all that other shit.
59:39
And I just didn't think I got a proper thank you.
59:41
So I was super pissed. Yeah, I was like, really fucking
59:44
pissed. And I was like, yeah, maybe I
59:48
was just being a bitch in my feelings or whatever.
59:49
No, yeah, it kind of just stings a little.
59:51
Bit so, you know, it's more on me maybe, but yeah.
59:56
And so Simba was like, hey, you have to do this.
59:57
Like, dude, I'm not fucking doing it.
59:59
Like I'm about to have a family. I don't have time to fucking run
1:00:01
events. Like fuck all you guys.
1:00:02
I'm not doing this shit. That was like March.
1:00:06
In like May like two months later, I like I was like.
1:00:10
Dude. All right.
1:00:11
Yeah, sure, I'll do. It and.
1:00:13
So you're. Such a piece of shit.
1:00:15
I'm such a piece of shit dude. And.
1:00:17
So like Mike, they they like told the fact that Mike like,
1:00:20
hey, you should do it da da da da.
1:00:22
And Mike's like, I have a business.
1:00:23
I can't, I don't have time to fucking do this.
1:00:25
Yeah. And so like, dude, you can you
1:00:27
do it like you should you have something special here, because
1:00:30
we, you know, we, you know, put some effort and kids were
1:00:32
starting to build stuff like oblivion.
1:00:34
It started, you know, shit like that, like a bunch of teams are
1:00:38
like like starting to get built up and stuff like that.
1:00:41
And I was like, all right, fine, whatever.
1:00:44
So I started to knuckle up and yeah, I just been doing that
1:00:48
ever since. I just wanted to create the
1:00:51
easiest way to explain it is to find about feeder series.
1:00:54
That's that's that was the goal because I everything that I
1:00:56
wanted to do and find about, I was like, I want this at home
1:00:59
all the time. I want to experience this.
1:01:00
I'm like chasing that high all the fucking time.
1:01:03
And now that you explain it, it kind of makes sense, yeah.
1:01:05
Dude I would love. So that's that's all knuckle up
1:01:09
is, is that it's a final bout fetus series I want.
1:01:12
And it kind of started from final bout because 100.
1:01:13
Percent, yeah, that's what it is, Yeah.
1:01:15
Yeah. Like we started with those HPA
1:01:19
days with fat cats and then we started knuckle up and then like
1:01:23
just kept in there and I kind of faltered like 2 years ago.
1:01:26
Kind of like, OK, let's like let more people in but OK.
1:01:29
At this point it's like Nah fucked up.
1:01:31
Yeah, because that is, that is a big thing about those events.
1:01:34
Like you don't. It's kind of like based on
1:01:36
selection almost, yeah. So it's there's a criteria.
1:01:39
You just have to have a cool car.
1:01:41
I used to be the one that was like, no, you're in or not.
1:01:43
And people were fucking hating me.
1:01:45
They're like, dude, you're a piece of shit, yada yada yada.
1:01:47
I was like, fine, fucking put it to the community.
1:01:49
So then we do Instagram votes and I just post their car and
1:01:52
let the people that yeah. And then people get fucking
1:01:55
dogged. Yeah.
1:01:56
That's kind of a. Perfect.
1:01:58
Way to do that, it's best. It gets me pressure off of me
1:02:00
because, you know, people don't want to know that I'm the right
1:02:02
person. Yeah, and then and then everyone
1:02:04
can see that the the community agrees.
1:02:06
Yeah, that your car's shitty, Yeah.
1:02:07
It's easy as that when I visited that day with Brad, like my
1:02:10
Brad, there's. This Brad?
1:02:13
Yeah, this Brad. Oh shit.
1:02:16
What? Up Brad.
1:02:17
But he was like, we're going to go see some cool cars today.
1:02:20
I'm going to bring you here without saying we were going to
1:02:24
go somewhere else to go see other cars.
1:02:26
But I went there and as soon as we pulled up one, that facility
1:02:30
has a gas station within a pebbles throw. 711. 711 a super.
1:02:37
J Yeah, I. Forgot.
1:02:39
Was it Domino's? Taco Bell.
1:02:41
Yeah, sorry, I was both. Yeah, it's both.
1:02:43
Yeah. That's the first thing he told
1:02:44
me about. 7-11 with the Taco taqueria in it.
1:02:47
Yeah, it has a food court zone. There's a McDonald's and a
1:02:50
fucking water park across the. Street.
1:02:52
You said McDonald's on there. Real like that is a it's the
1:02:55
Mecca. It's the Mecca.
1:02:57
That's why the Mecca. That's why I gatekeeper dude.
1:03:00
Yeah. It is what it is.
1:03:02
You don't want to see some crazy cars there.
1:03:04
Well, no, I mean, it's a professional shifter car track
1:03:06
first and foremost. And so like, that's what brings
1:03:09
the money to keep that track alive.
1:03:11
Yeah. So if we let anybody in to fuck
1:03:14
the track up to. Dirt drops everywhere.
1:03:16
Well it's not even that. Like if you just have a bunch of
1:03:19
shitty cars, the people that are there day in day out, like the
1:03:22
shifter card people, they're like, I'm not going to go to
1:03:24
this track. They let these shitty cars on
1:03:26
track. Like I don't want to be shifter
1:03:30
card. That's big money dude.
1:03:31
Like. That's that's literally like a
1:03:33
feeder series than a fucking formula whatever.
1:03:35
Like there's, there's like like the Astros, their, their kids
1:03:41
are out there racing like millionaires.
1:03:44
They have their kids racing stuff like that.
1:03:45
Those people don't want to see shitty fucking cars on their
1:03:48
track that they're raising their professional racing kids on it.
1:03:51
Spilling fluids on the surface. Right, and just not giving a
1:03:54
shit. So like you have to dress for
1:03:56
the job that you want, not for that the job that you have.
1:04:00
So you can't just have some shitty car out there and then
1:04:03
having a bad impression because media is going to show it and
1:04:06
then speed sports will get a bad name or like a.
1:04:09
Bad image, That's your name too. Yeah.
1:04:11
Absolutely. So.
1:04:12
And that's why I like now in my drivers meetings if there's
1:04:15
shitty cars that pull up. Like I literally tell media
1:04:18
don't take pictures of the shitty cars.
1:04:19
I will pay you not to take pictures of the shitty cars that
1:04:21
show up. I love you.
1:04:24
I will. I I even called myself out.
1:04:29
I'm like, dude, I don't have a front bumper.
1:04:30
I don't want to see a picture of my fucking car today.
1:04:32
Yeah, because then it's going to, it's the same deal.
1:04:33
Like I'm not up to par, but I'm here.
1:04:35
But like, you know, because I used to be a real stickler about
1:04:39
it and just be like, everyone should have their car on point
1:04:41
all the time. Anytime you start to hit a
1:04:43
little smile, I know there's some sort of memory back there,
1:04:46
but. But you got too much shit for
1:04:48
that probably. No, it's, it's I, I got older
1:04:51
and I knew like not everyone is financially, yeah, yeah, not
1:04:57
lucky, but like. I don't want to be the bear like
1:04:59
that doesn't even make a ugly car.
1:05:01
Yeah, but no. But like, no, not an ugly car,
1:05:03
but like if I blew all my arrow up and I couldn't afford to
1:05:07
replace the arrow. I made the car cool once, I just
1:05:09
can't financially make it again right now.
1:05:12
But I can't. I still have it.
1:05:13
It will be good again, right? But I shouldn't take away from
1:05:17
people that really put in effort, made a really fucking
1:05:19
sick car, blew their shit up because of one mistake, and then
1:05:23
banned them from drifting until the shit's right.
1:05:24
So what was it like back then when you were a stickler about
1:05:27
it? You'd show up with like a broken
1:05:28
bumper and you're like Nah bro. Instead, you're banned from
1:05:30
drifting. Yeah, no, I would.
1:05:33
No, because I would be like I I used to be the guy.
1:05:35
Like if my bumper fell off I'd pit my shit until I got my arrow
1:05:38
back on. I would not do a lap without
1:05:39
flare. It's so crazy.
1:05:41
No, that is shut up. That is what you told me and
1:05:45
made. Me do it like rear bumper all
1:05:48
the time. That is.
1:05:49
No parking. That is what run across the
1:05:51
fucking. Track I would still.
1:05:52
I would still drift. I would still drift.
1:05:54
I would not do a lot like he's. Taking it to a next level, yeah,
1:05:57
yeah. Which is.
1:05:58
One time I saw Frank, this was one of the first early times I
1:06:01
knew Frankie and I didn't talk to him because he was pissed as
1:06:03
fuck. He had a brand new BN kit.
1:06:06
He was coming into E town, the bank.
1:06:08
He was inside and he dips it and the BN bumper blows the fuck up.
1:06:13
He comes in, you would think you'd just take it off.
1:06:16
No, I think you had a second bumper.
1:06:18
No, no. I had a splitter thing under it.
1:06:20
I remember this because Justin was behind me.
1:06:22
Flips go. Yeah.
1:06:23
And he and you repaired it and went out.
1:06:25
And that was my first time when I was like, why did he fucking
1:06:27
fix it just to go? Back.
1:06:28
Oh, OK, cool. Yeah, Yeah, that's a good
1:06:30
example, yeah. But you talk if I.
1:06:33
Have it, you know, like if I have it and I can fix it, but
1:06:35
yeah, but like, if I'm on the track already and my bumper's in
1:06:38
the middle of the track, I'm still gonna drift, you know what
1:06:41
I mean? That's what, that's what I yeah.
1:06:42
I'm not gonna stop stop mid lap, but.
1:06:44
Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. If someone's like, hey, your
1:06:46
bumper's missing, oh fuck, let me pull off, let me go get it.
1:06:48
Slide back on. Yeah.
1:06:49
And you probably, it's probably a little easier at that track
1:06:51
than it is a. Oh yeah, 100% yeah.
1:06:53
I mean it's a shifter car track. Like we only drift.
1:06:56
It's a pretty gnarly shifter track. 4-5 chart cart track.
1:06:59
It's cool. That's straightaway's longest
1:07:01
buck. Imagine if you were in a shifter
1:07:03
cart ripping down that like. Oh, dude, they're they're going
1:07:05
serious. They're.
1:07:06
Going. Every time I see those things
1:07:08
I'm like just waiting for one to flip.
1:07:11
Dude I saw one one time. So we have a garage at the shop
1:07:14
where or at the track where we keep like all the event stuff
1:07:17
and whatever. And I'll go there to like unload
1:07:20
shit or like pull wheels because like all my tires and stuff are
1:07:23
there. And one time I'm like watching
1:07:25
people drifting or carting and this dude fucking goes wide and
1:07:31
rolls his shit and you see him fly up in the air.
1:07:33
It was the sickest shit ever. It was so fucking cool.
1:07:35
I waited for him to fucking like walk back to dude.
1:07:38
He was hurting, right? I mean he was walking, but like
1:07:41
I was like, holy shit. I was like walked up to me.
1:07:43
He's like Brazilian. I was like, that was the coolest
1:07:45
fucking thing I've ever seen in this track ever.
1:07:47
I was like just if you do that every lab that be sick.
1:07:50
The guy actually is torn. To pieces.
1:07:52
Yeah, like he was launching there.
1:07:54
He was probably like 6 feet in there.
1:07:55
It was fucking cool. I just always look at those
1:07:58
things and it's like a wide ass cart and then just a human body
1:08:01
sticking out and I'm just picturing it flipping and just
1:08:04
crushing. Everything because they don't
1:08:05
have seatbelts, they're not holding in, so they're just
1:08:06
going to fly, OK right? But dude, it was fucking cool.
1:08:09
Just rag dogs his ass. It was sick.
1:08:13
They do that at E town too at the in the parking lot, but the
1:08:15
parking lot is so shredded like if you.
1:08:16
Fall and flip something in that parking lot, your face and skin
1:08:20
and arms, whatever is. Brutal fucked.
1:08:23
Up. That that track I hope.
1:08:26
Is everything OK there now? Yeah, so it's just for sale.
1:08:30
They're really adamant on selling it to another car owner,
1:08:35
so they want too much money for it to be really like to buy it,
1:08:40
demolish it and put like a warehouse or anything on it.
1:08:43
So I think it'll wind up just trading hands to someone else
1:08:45
that keeps it a cart track and then they'll just keep operating
1:08:49
like that. They just landed a contract to
1:08:51
have the largest shifting cart series in the nation there, so
1:08:55
that's why they're doing it. They're having races January,
1:08:59
February, March, like the whole series is there.
1:09:00
Do you think that we'll have a positive or negative on Knuckle
1:09:04
Up itself? I don't it won't affect it at
1:09:07
all as long as it's like that series is pretty big.
1:09:12
There's like 3 big series in the nation.
1:09:14
Two of them transferred from Florida to Texas.
1:09:17
So they're driving them January, February, March.
1:09:19
So that's good. It's more money for them.
1:09:22
It just means we're going to be able to keep driving there and
1:09:24
just keep doing our thing for longer.
1:09:26
So I was. I went to the one and then all
1:09:29
of that, like rumblings and stuff started happening and I
1:09:32
was like, God damn it, yeah, it's just Internet.
1:09:35
Like bullshit. Like people were like, oh, it's
1:09:37
closing. We had to go drive it and shit
1:09:38
like that. And.
1:09:39
They just don't fucking know. Like I see it all the time, like
1:09:43
whatever. And I almost caved in and was
1:09:46
like, all right, speed sports is like in jeopardy.
1:09:49
Let me just open the floodgates and let more people drive.
1:09:51
Like, no, fuck that. Just build your cars.
1:09:54
You'll have time. It's not going anywhere.
1:09:57
You'll have plenty of time you. Still like gone to businessman.
1:10:00
Yeah, I'm. Just going to die on the hill.
1:10:03
Like I hate, I hate to say this, but I think the gatekeeping is
1:10:07
really helping create. You know a.
1:10:09
Lot of events do that now, right?
1:10:11
Yeah, well, I. Like they, they do the they vote
1:10:14
drivers in, you have to apply. They don't let anybody in
1:10:16
anymore like. It's a good idea.
1:10:18
That's the only way because drifting is so mainstream now.
1:10:21
Like it's access to everybody via social media.
1:10:24
You just get people that are in it for like a year or two
1:10:26
because they see it on the Internet.
1:10:27
I want to try this. I'm going to swipe.
1:10:28
And you got like the takeover kids going.
1:10:30
Right. And it's just like, OK, cool,
1:10:33
you're going to have these shitheads come in and ruin it
1:10:35
and then they're in and out and they don't give a fuck because
1:10:37
they're just wanting to experience it, which is cool.
1:10:39
But like they're not in it for the reasons we're in it.
1:10:43
And so why, why bring those people in?
1:10:45
There's other events. Texas is very lucky.
1:10:47
We have lots of events, lots of organizations.
1:10:51
There's an organization in San Antonio.
1:10:54
There's one here in Houston. Actually, there's like
1:10:56
technically 3 here in Houston. There's like so Lone Star Drift
1:11:01
does Vince in Dallas and in Houston Knuckle ups at speed
1:11:05
sports, IAIAS does events at Houston police Academy.
1:11:13
There's the used to be called loose San Antonio, but now it's
1:11:17
River City drift. So they still do stuff in San
1:11:19
Antonio. And then there's there's a
1:11:22
couple like smaller organizations in Dallas.
1:11:26
Dreamers of drift is in Austin and so they you have
1:11:30
organizations that drive all over River City, San Antonio,
1:11:35
anybody can drive there. Austin, anybody can drive there.
1:11:39
IAS they do have an application process.
1:11:40
I've never really looked into it to see what they like abide by,
1:11:43
but it's kind of like that Lone Star drift.
1:11:46
Anybody can drive Lone Star and there's like a kind of this
1:11:49
thing for everything like Lone Star.
1:11:51
If you want to go compete, that's where you go.
1:11:53
They have Street Legal and they have Pro AM I, I did Pro Am a
1:11:57
couple months ago. Fantastic.
1:11:58
It's great. It runs smoothly, everyone's
1:12:00
welcoming, it's fun. Like I drove this thing in Pro
1:12:03
AM. I was about to ask, what are we?
1:12:06
Driving in Pro AM I drove this thing?
1:12:08
That's gas, yeah. It's fine, you know, like
1:12:10
everybody, it was fine, you know, So I, you know, I did
1:12:13
that. It was cool.
1:12:14
It worked. You know, if you wanted to do
1:12:16
that, if you just want seat time and stuff like that, IAS is
1:12:18
where it's at. You can go to HPA, you can go
1:12:20
drive. They're welcoming.
1:12:22
They, they have like a training course, They can drive the big
1:12:24
track. So like and then knuckle up.
1:12:26
If you really want the cool shit, then you can just apply
1:12:29
and come drive with us. So there's all facets of
1:12:31
drifting here in Houston. So if one of them is
1:12:34
gatekeeping, it's like, all right, dude, it's fine.
1:12:36
Yeah. And like people are not a big
1:12:37
deal. Like you, like the people that
1:12:39
Dr. Knuckle up have no interest in driving anything else and the
1:12:43
people that aren't allowed to drive Knuckle.
1:12:46
Up are mad about it. Well, no, but like, but they,
1:12:49
they can go Dr. HPA, they can go drive, they can go drive all
1:12:51
that other shit. Yeah.
1:12:53
They have more opportunities, really.
1:12:54
You can go to Austin, go drive. You know, you can go to San
1:12:56
Antonio, you can go to Dallas, all that other shit.
1:12:59
It just always seems like they're always someone's always
1:13:01
mad. About they they, they're, it's
1:13:03
the glass half full kind of shit that's all.
1:13:06
Or half empty. Glass half empty.
1:13:09
Or they just and they just don't understand it for some.
1:13:11
Reason and like they get it. Like for the longest time,
1:13:14
people would like be pissed off and I would just here's my phone
1:13:17
number. Call me, let's discuss.
1:13:19
I don't want to bullshit through DMS Call me because you can feel
1:13:22
the emotion and I'm going to explain to you exactly what it
1:13:25
is. And I've had dozens of people
1:13:27
call me and I explained to them I'm like, they're oh, OK, I get
1:13:30
it now. Yeah, because you can't get the
1:13:32
emotion through DMS. I'm not being a Dick head and bullying
1:13:35
you. I'm saying, well, I am bullying
1:13:36
you, but I'm not, I'm not being a Dick head, being rude.
1:13:39
I'm just saying, hey, look, this is what we want.
1:13:41
This is what we're trying to keep.
1:13:43
If you were passionate and wanted to keep the thing that
1:13:46
you love, you know, pure, then you would do the same thing.
1:13:49
Yeah, dude, I like the text and app, not the text.
1:13:51
And I like the the voting application process.
1:13:54
Yeah, because like, now what, are you gonna fucking yell at
1:13:57
these 83 people that just voted on your shit to not come in here
1:13:59
because it's ugly? That's 83 people.
1:14:01
That's that. No, that was the major key
1:14:04
solution to a. 100%, yeah. That's kind of fire.
1:14:07
Yeah, absolutely. Let's community though, let them
1:14:09
do it. So how do you throw those up?
1:14:10
You just throw it up one day like yo.
1:14:12
No. So we just started our hold on.
1:14:14
Get the tiki torches bro. Yeah.
1:14:16
Yeah. Pitchforks No, no, I we just
1:14:19
started. So I do.
1:14:20
I used to do individual applications all the time and
1:14:24
people would be like, oh, can I apply?
1:14:25
I'm like, all right, kind of like whatever, Oh yeah, your
1:14:27
shit's cool, come on in. Because again, money can't buy
1:14:31
style. So if you have a cool car, we
1:14:33
can teach you how to drift. You can get better at drifting.
1:14:36
I haven't really seen too many people that have gotten better
1:14:39
with style. Yeah, it's definitely harder to
1:14:41
go that way. It's way harder.
1:14:42
There's a couple guys that are like, OK, cool, you turn the
1:14:44
fucking leaf. That's sick.
1:14:47
So I'd rather have a really cool car on a shitty driver than a
1:14:49
fucking sick driver in a shitty car, yeah.
1:14:52
Yeah. Right.
1:14:53
I like it dude because I feel like what people forget is that
1:14:56
drifting is a visual sport. No, no, no.
1:15:00
Yes, I like looking at. No, no, no.
1:15:03
It's an art. OK, yes.
1:15:05
It's not visual. It has to abide by all the
1:15:08
senses, has to hear, sound, cool.
1:15:10
Sound cool? That's why no one likes fucking
1:15:11
V eights. Everyone likes turbo shit.
1:15:13
It sounds cooler. Has to look cool, right?
1:15:17
It has to feel cool. You have to be, you have to be
1:15:19
in the cars. That has to feel cool.
1:15:21
Smell good, right? Squash fresh air and shit like
1:15:24
that. I was thinking tires, but yeah.
1:15:25
Tires. That's fine too.
1:15:26
But like, it has to abide by all the senses.
1:15:28
It's art. It's not just it's a figure
1:15:30
skating and Motorsports. Yeah, the art is yeah.
1:15:33
It's not. It's not visual, it's all the.
1:15:34
Senses. It's visceral as fuck and I love
1:15:36
that. It's all the sensories.
1:15:38
Yeah, that's what you have. To I never really thought about
1:15:40
that, but yeah, it's 100% accurate, yeah.
1:15:42
But damn dude, like sometimes I forget people know that we have
1:15:46
to look at it. Too.
1:15:47
Yeah, like. God damn it.
1:15:49
Man, and there's no, there's like, I get it.
1:15:51
Some people just want to do the act of drifting.
1:15:53
I get it. Like there's some people, right?
1:15:55
There's some people that just want to drive SIM and stuff like
1:15:56
that and they're fucking sick at it.
1:15:58
And like that's just what they do.
1:15:59
That's cool. It's like that's they want to do
1:16:01
the it's the art versus the act. That's what I always compare.
1:16:05
You can have the art of drifting this or the act of drifting,
1:16:08
which is like everything else. Yeah, I've never understood that
1:16:11
second one. The act of it.
1:16:13
Like I never understood, like I can't get my mind in that.
1:16:16
I'm just. Like I can, I mean, it's the
1:16:17
same thing. Like it's like any other sport,
1:16:19
right? It's like someone who just wants
1:16:21
to be good at a sport. Basketball, golf, it's.
1:16:24
Weird. It's like, it's like I don't
1:16:25
view it as a sport. That's what it is.
1:16:27
I feel like I. Don't know, man.
1:16:28
Well, you're. Thinking, yeah, I mean, well,
1:16:30
it's not like that. It's just a sport is something
1:16:32
you're just like there's a winner.
1:16:34
Yeah. That's all.
1:16:36
That's why drifting. And there's never been in my
1:16:38
mind for drifting. Right, so that's why it's art.
1:16:41
Yeah, and art, you're never stopping your craft.
1:16:45
You're getting better at your craft every time you.
1:16:47
Perform something different every time.
1:16:48
Yeah. Every lap is different.
1:16:51
Yeah, it is. I mean.
1:16:54
I don't think. You know why?
1:16:55
You know why? I think it's been a while since
1:16:57
you've had a session of drifting where you're like, really just
1:17:01
throwing it as much as you want until your heart is tired.
1:17:05
I mean, there's definitely those moments.
1:17:06
It's been a while where like I'll be doing one turn over and
1:17:10
over again, but that's because I'm trying to hit it a certain
1:17:12
way. Sure.
1:17:13
And that's practice, Yeah. And that's the act of drifting.
1:17:15
Yeah, but if but if my car looked like shit I wouldn't be
1:17:18
doing it. There you go, you.
1:17:19
Know what I mean There it is. Like I would not be doing that
1:17:21
your friend. Was like craft.
1:17:22
If someone like yo, you want to drive my fucking V8, this this
1:17:25
thing wheels good. I'd be like, no, yeah, but I'll
1:17:27
do it like you do it for free. I'm good.
1:17:29
Yeah, like I just don't care. I don't know.
1:17:32
It's just different. Dude I want to hear like
1:17:34
repetitive revving and dumping the clutch mid corner at this
1:17:38
moment. Yeah, exactly.
1:17:41
Yeah, God, it's been a while and it's cold and we have a little
1:17:44
whiles to go. All right, well, let's.
1:17:47
Keep. Going.
1:17:47
That was a great little break. All right, good.
1:17:49
That was nice. We enjoyed.
1:17:50
That more often we just had a steak dinner.
1:17:52
Yeah, the cinnamon rolls was. All right, so we talked a lot
1:17:55
about the past. Yep.
1:17:56
I want to talk more about where you want to go.
1:17:58
I want to retire you. Want to be.
1:18:00
Cash out the checks. Fucking done dude, I got kids.
1:18:04
Because like. No, you.
1:18:05
Don't want to. You don't want to run this
1:18:07
forever. You know what I mean?
1:18:08
No, I have to. You have to.
1:18:09
I have to cuz if I I have to look at the bigger scale, if I
1:18:13
quit then the community quits and it all falls.
1:18:15
So like I have to self sacrifice and.
1:18:18
You did chosen. You did chosen.
1:18:20
Yeah, he's the glue of Texas. Drift.
1:18:22
He kind of is right now. Yeah, I have to, yeah.
1:18:24
Sorry about that my extent it's just.
1:18:27
I've thought about it and I'm like I could, but like there's
1:18:30
probably other like effects like the butterfly effect that would
1:18:34
just it's. Going to Ripple.
1:18:35
Yeah. And I, I can't do it.
1:18:37
So I'd rather just like me, just take, take the L and then like
1:18:40
everybody just. Keep it on, it sounds like
1:18:41
nightmares haunt you about. This.
1:18:43
No, not really because there's just moderation.
1:18:45
Like we just had DC5. I haven't done anything in
1:18:50
January. Like I literally just announced
1:18:51
the new driver thing. That's the only thing I've done
1:18:54
this month. I took the whole month off just
1:18:55
like chill from KU like prep or do anything like.
1:18:58
That. Yeah, you got to take a break.
1:19:01
And oh, what you were saying about offseason and stuff like
1:19:03
that. Technically, no, we don't have
1:19:05
to. Usually I have summers off.
1:19:08
I usually take summers off because it's too fucking hot.
1:19:11
So we don't have any events. But with the current speed
1:19:16
sports situation, like whatever, I was like, well, let's just
1:19:19
have months there have events all the time.
1:19:21
So this summer we're going to bring back the event or like the
1:19:24
the comp series, we called it Summer Saga a couple years ago,
1:19:28
but now we're just going to call it KU Lights as a play as D1
1:19:30
lights and we're going to try to run the event at night so it's
1:19:35
cooler. So then.
1:19:38
We so that's going to be a hit. Yeah, I think so.
1:19:41
I think the drivers have gotten better now over the years, so
1:19:44
the competition will be better. It's no fault of you, that's
1:19:49
that's you. Yeah, I know.
1:19:50
You know what I mean? Like dude, it's just.
1:19:52
Time Now you're going to start a.
1:19:53
Comp Yeah, it's going. To be a small thing, it's not
1:19:55
it's going to be friendly like bro thing like it's nothing
1:19:57
crazy No, like I haven't even decided on what we're going to
1:20:01
do for prizes this year. Like we did checks like money,
1:20:04
like last time when we did the series and that brought out some
1:20:08
people that like. Brought like super overbuilt
1:20:11
cars. You know, and it's like I.
1:20:13
Mean like, I get it, the car is really nice quality built.
1:20:16
It does kind of fit, but it was just like.
1:20:18
Too much. They thought it was more than
1:20:21
what it was like, oh, comp series.
1:20:23
OK, yeah, let's do it. It's like, no, this is just a
1:20:25
chance to like mix up drivers, Yeah.
1:20:27
And just have fun driving against each other.
1:20:28
It's. Like comp.
1:20:29
It's like final bout comp. Yeah, like early final bout
1:20:32
comp, not like current final bout stuff, you know?
1:20:34
Yeah, because I was going to say the current final bout comp
1:20:36
stuff will have somebody getting pissed at themselves.
1:20:40
I don't know, and it's not. Final Josh pissed.
1:20:43
Off all the time. It's not Final Bout's fault,
1:20:44
it's just. No, it's just natural
1:20:46
progression. That's all it is.
1:20:46
You can't hate it so, but I think it's a good excuse for if
1:20:50
people do want to keep taking the summers off, then they can
1:20:53
because they don't want to keep compete.
1:20:56
But if you do, then you guys compete and let's get better
1:20:58
practice kind of thing like that.
1:20:59
So it's kind of like our offseason.
1:21:00
You train in the offseason, let's have some fun, do a comp,
1:21:03
we'll figure out some cool prizes or something like that.
1:21:06
And then yeah, just. I like the comp because I all
1:21:10
right there's I know you don't like.
1:21:12
Really. I fucking hate competition.
1:21:13
Yeah, there we go. There.
1:21:14
We go, that's fine. For me but.
1:21:16
I feel like your your style stuff would probably be.
1:21:19
It's a good comp, yeah. It's just to make, it's not to
1:21:21
make sure, it's just to get a little check in of where you
1:21:24
are. How much did I develop?
1:21:26
Like or like. Can I do this right?
1:21:28
But. It depends on the mindset that
1:21:30
someone comes in like they can just come in like, all right,
1:21:31
this comp, I'm just going to book in work on this.
1:21:34
Yeah. Or it gives people a chance to
1:21:36
like work on something specific for Tandem that's all.
1:21:40
Like, hey, I'm going to dive into people more.
1:21:42
Or I'm going to like not pussyfoot off the line and try
1:21:45
to jump people off the line and get a little bit faster so the
1:21:47
Tam's closer. So like that, like people can
1:21:48
use it for that. More of an expectation.
1:21:51
Yeah, or they can just be like, hey, I've never driven with.
1:21:53
So this person, this person, this person, maybe this is my
1:21:55
chance to mix in and be able to drive with those people at that
1:21:58
time. That's.
1:21:58
All and you have that little bit of little bit of pressure to
1:22:01
make you yeah. KU.
1:22:03
Lights. Yeah, KU Lights.
1:22:05
So we'll do that. And you know, we'll, we'll play
1:22:07
the part, we'll do the banners and we'll do the cool stuff and
1:22:10
maybe I'll get little trophies made and.
1:22:12
Are you going to do the same rules radios?
1:22:15
No. I don't think so.
1:22:16
I mean, I think everybody kind of already fits that already.
1:22:18
I don't need to imply those rules.
1:22:19
I. Love.
1:22:20
I love the registration 1 though.
1:22:21
Yeah, registration's cool. I would fail this.
1:22:23
Car's I know. That's why I was like, he's not
1:22:25
doing it, Yeah. Why wait?
1:22:27
Why? Before he was like registration.
1:22:30
Yeah, this car's not. Registered yet?
1:22:31
Oh, like street. Yeah, yeah.
1:22:34
Grandfathered. Grandfathered.
1:22:37
The only cars that are grandfathered in is Corolla's
1:22:40
for KU. Like I don't care.
1:22:42
Like I've I used to own 28 sixes way way back before my last
1:22:46
thirteens. I.
1:22:46
Was like what the hell? Yeah, way, way back.
1:22:49
So Corollas have a soft spot in my heart, and Corollas are the
1:22:52
only ones that get grandfathered in.
1:22:53
So I don't care if it's like the shittiest Corolla, if it's the a
1:22:56
A6, you're in KU. Damn, yeah, so it is more rare
1:22:59
to find it really. Yeah, I mean, those cars are
1:23:01
like 40 years old, dude. Like what do you expect?
1:23:03
Yeah, and then people are clutch kicking them and throwing them
1:23:05
in. Yeah, and they're.
1:23:06
Shitty and most of them that they come drive like once or
1:23:08
twice and they drive again because they're like, oh, I'm
1:23:10
not really good. Yeah.
1:23:11
So it takes a lot to drive those cars.
1:23:13
They suck. I hope that the turn out.
1:23:15
I mean, I think you're I think it's the opposite.
1:23:17
Now you get like literally too much of A turn out and now
1:23:20
you're get to filter it hopefully.
1:23:22
Yeah, I mean, I think my current mailing list for qualified KU
1:23:27
drivers is like over 200. Holy shit.
1:23:30
That's a big. But there's a lot of people that
1:23:32
applied in their first because we started in 2020.
1:23:36
So this is our sixth year, I guess, but a lot of people when
1:23:39
they first applied, they were like all over the US.
1:23:40
So there's people that are on the emailing list that are like
1:23:42
Chicago or like West Coast and shit like that.
1:23:44
And they just applied just a they thought it like they wanted
1:23:47
to be. A lot of people use the
1:23:48
application just to feel accepted.
1:23:51
And I could feed or filter out the bullshit like this person
1:23:53
never fucking drifted or like there's no point for you to
1:23:56
apply like you're on the East Coast or whatever.
1:23:59
You're never going to come drive KU.
1:24:01
You used to want to be accepted, and so that's just kind of what
1:24:04
it is. So weird.
1:24:05
Yeah, it's like really weird. I could see that though.
1:24:08
Yeah, it's it's kind of cringy. It's like, I don't know, there's
1:24:11
so many different ways to go about drifting.
1:24:13
Like there's, there's people that are into this that
1:24:16
literally have no friends. Like they never found a
1:24:18
community, you know? Yeah, And I've been to events
1:24:21
where it's like, I don't know anybody.
1:24:23
I'll show up and drive because I'm like, I want to go drifting.
1:24:25
And it's the worst fucking event for myself.
1:24:27
I'm like, dude, I, I can't, like I can't go to an event that I'm
1:24:30
not with a group of friends. Because you.
1:24:32
It's you. Lose social drifter, I guess,
1:24:34
yeah. But you lose the fun, yeah.
1:24:36
And a lot of a lot of those people listen to this podcast
1:24:39
too. Like people have said that
1:24:40
before. They're like, oh, I wish I had
1:24:41
this. I wish I had that.
1:24:42
Like I wish I had a group of friends that you guys do this
1:24:44
because it's hard to find that shit.
1:24:46
Yeah, you used to have to interject yourself and, you
1:24:48
know, be part of the community. IA lot of people that have that
1:24:51
look at KU and like, oh, I want that.
1:24:53
It's like you can have that. It just takes time.
1:24:55
It's not going to happen overnight.
1:24:56
You have to build it. Yeah, you know.
1:24:58
And so, you know, there's people that have like drift orgs and
1:25:01
like like kind of like the like towards the West Coast or
1:25:08
something like that. And they're like, oh, dude, we
1:25:09
wish. We just start.
1:25:11
Dude, you if you have a core group of people, just start and
1:25:14
people will like see it and want to like begin it and build on
1:25:17
it. And look at the Internet now.
1:25:19
Yeah, absolutely. Like you guys were doing this
1:25:21
stuff when you had to probably make a flyer like without AI or
1:25:25
any of this shit and. Oh yeah, like I don't use any AI
1:25:28
stuff. Martino.
1:25:29
Martino does all my art. Yeah, still like.
1:25:31
I love Martino, missed that guy by the way, it was his birthday
1:25:34
recently. Yeah, so Martino does all the
1:25:36
art, but like, yeah, it's just you just have to start.
1:25:40
That's all it is, That's all. God damn it, you built this.
1:25:45
You really built this shit. This is this is this is you.
1:25:47
Yeah, don't. Don't be smiling there like
1:25:49
you're not the king, bro, You're saying.
1:25:50
Not me, you're saying? Yeah, I was.
1:25:52
Going to say me don't blows. No no, no dude, just cuz I.
1:25:55
Don't give a shit. People used to say I just
1:25:58
haven't you go I don't care. You can say haven't you or not.
1:26:01
Facts are facts. Dude whatever man, it's going to
1:26:05
grow forever. Yeah, I mean I.
1:26:08
Don't know, I wanted it to grow like super big and be like, I
1:26:12
wanted to be like the third pillar, like find about super D
1:26:15
knuckle up. But I don't know.
1:26:17
I've I've started to think I kind of like how underground
1:26:21
knuckle up still kind of is and you need those underground
1:26:23
stuff, you know, so I kind of put the pressure off myself and
1:26:27
stopped trying to like compete with that kind of stuff, you
1:26:30
know, so. I wouldn't even necessarily call
1:26:33
it competing. You're just growing it, yeah.
1:26:35
But I don't know, it's funny because we're like, I just
1:26:38
thought about it last year. We kind of hit our second
1:26:41
generation of KU drivers. Yeah.
1:26:42
What do you mean like? So like the core group that was
1:26:45
first there, everyone's got older, they're not driving as
1:26:49
much and stuff like that. But now we're starting to
1:26:50
getting the new kids and the new kids are driving like Fr s s and
1:26:54
GS and shit like that and whatever.
1:26:56
So it's like it's cool because they still have the same
1:26:58
passion, but they they're not, I don't think a lot of them aren't
1:27:02
into like S thirteens, S fourteens, stuff like that.
1:27:05
It's harder to get, it's harder to get financially and they can
1:27:07
get into an FRS for like 8 grand and then like dump it on wheels
1:27:11
and like it. Looks cool.
1:27:12
It's cool you. Know and they're driving and
1:27:14
like that's their core group of friends now so it it's cool to
1:27:19
see like the second gin rotating out.
1:27:21
Most people will just like, oh this sucks you got to stay true
1:27:24
and try and stuff like that. But like, if I don't have that
1:27:26
second gin, Katie's dead. Yeah, you can't do that.
1:27:28
It's it's done because it's so hard to maintain these pieces of
1:27:31
shit now. Although we do say that like you
1:27:33
can't do that. But then it's like, well.
1:27:35
You do that, but how bad do you want it, you know?
1:27:37
Yeah, you managed to find all of these kids now with like two 40s
1:27:40
and whatnot that are. Yeah, I.
1:27:41
Started it, yeah, true. And we still have a bunch of
1:27:44
like Sr. cars. It's fucking sick.
1:27:47
Where? Are you guys all getting these
1:27:50
dude? Because there's none at the
1:27:51
depots by us. No, no, we.
1:27:53
Have a guy locally that builds our motors and like my motors
1:27:58
built Kev's motors built by the same guy.
1:28:02
Let's see who else a couple other drivers and stuff like
1:28:04
that. I think we just have the the
1:28:07
formula now and that's why push Club T 28.
1:28:10
Like we don't need anything bigger.
1:28:12
Speed sports is to me an equalizer.
1:28:14
You could have stock KA with A46 where you could have a 400
1:28:19
horsepower Sr. or Jay-Z and you're still going to like be
1:28:23
able to tandem with each other. That's the perfect place for
1:28:26
yeah. So like there's no point to
1:28:27
overbuild your car if you're just driving KU and stuff like
1:28:30
that. T 28 and it keeps it the budget
1:28:33
low like the the cost of running a machine like that is cheap
1:28:38
like you can do it on 225 tires, you can do it on A265 tires.
1:28:44
It just keeps budget easy because it and it's going to
1:28:47
work. It's factory fucking turbo.
1:28:48
What are you really guiding these kids like when they come
1:28:51
in? Or do you have to like really
1:28:53
not usher them, but like kind of like, hey, don't do that.
1:28:57
Maybe I want to try this? Time and time again I've seen
1:28:59
people just jump head deep into shit and they just, it was a
1:29:04
real big problem back in the day when like people want to do pro
1:29:06
AM and shit. Just build the shit out of the.
1:29:08
Car build the. Shit and like just go crazy debt
1:29:11
and like put the. Radiator in the back.
1:29:13
Well, not even that dude. Just like I want to build, I
1:29:16
like I have to have a 400 horsepower Sr. or like I need a
1:29:20
600 horsepower Jay-Z. And now it's much easier.
1:29:22
But back then time and time again, people would just go into
1:29:25
debt and just like ruin their fucking lives to go drifting.
1:29:28
And it doesn't have to be like that.
1:29:30
You can. You can do it way cheaper and
1:29:33
operate way less and get the exact same enjoyment if you just
1:29:36
keep it real simple. I feel like you just described
1:29:40
me and all my friends, like we just went into crazy debt and
1:29:43
yeah, that's how it felt. All the time.
1:29:45
And I, and I preach it all the time.
1:29:46
You have to have a good foundation.
1:29:47
Don't start drifting unless your life's set up.
1:29:50
And I think that helped me because I didn't start drifting
1:29:52
until after really college and I got a job, start a career, then
1:29:57
I started doing all this dumb shit.
1:29:58
And most people are like they catch on like 1617, they're
1:30:01
still in high school trying to do shit.
1:30:04
And you know, they go to college or like not even go to school
1:30:06
and they're like a fucking credit card swipe all that shit
1:30:09
and they're in credit and they're like fucked up.
1:30:11
So they're not playing the long game.
1:30:13
That's just how it is. So a lot of times I'm like,
1:30:15
dude, you don't need that much. Like just drive this car.
1:30:19
Like that's why Fr s s they're sick.
1:30:20
Dude. Just put wheels and tires on
1:30:22
that shit and like it'll drive. It has a DIF just manual.
1:30:26
Just enjoy it, maintain it. Done.
1:30:28
Same thing with like Z's and G's.
1:30:29
It's just maintaining it. Like stuff like that SRT-28, you
1:30:33
don't need no crazy turbo stuff like that.
1:30:35
I mean, unless you're like someone that's travelling around
1:30:38
driving all these crazy tracks. But like, I drove Polecat in
1:30:40
this car twice. Probably fun as fuck too.
1:30:43
So fun, top of third, just ripping like 300 horsepower like
1:30:47
it's the best time of life. That's the best place in the
1:30:48
world. They're doing another one in.
1:30:50
March. Yeah, we're going in March.
1:30:51
Are you really fucked? Yeah.
1:30:53
I heard that track's like the one of the best ones.
1:30:55
Yeah, it's probably the best track in the world.
1:30:57
In the US, it looks and flows. It's like playing a video game
1:31:00
in real life. Race car, race tracks.
1:31:03
I felt good that you said you could do it with AT28 because
1:31:05
everyone was making it seem like it was crazy.
1:31:07
Yeah, I I was, I was like, dude, I don't know, I've done it in
1:31:09
the pink car and this car and it, it, it drives just as fine.
1:31:12
Dumped on its fucking nuts. It drove better.
1:31:14
Yeah, I love how you call it the pink car in this car.
1:31:17
Yeah, pink car and red car. That's the easiest way.
1:31:18
This is the same car. It's the same seal.
1:31:20
Yeah, it's the same car. It's just different setups,
1:31:23
right? One was tall, one was low.
1:31:25
They drove just fine. I didn't change engine.
1:31:27
No, nothing. I really want to drive that
1:31:30
track. You should.
1:31:31
That's it. It's a great track, but yeah,
1:31:32
like if you're not driving like comps or like LZ War torch kind
1:31:38
of shit, like travelling around doing all that stuff, like
1:31:42
there's no point for crazy horsepower.
1:31:44
Like you're going to spend more time driving your car on the
1:31:47
street if it's like set up right than on the track.
1:31:51
So just set it up for a street and just enjoy it.
1:31:53
That's a like we talk about it all the time, but that taking
1:31:57
your car out on a morning to go get coffee.
1:32:00
I don't know you guys drink coffee in the morning, but like.
1:32:02
Tomorrow morning, take. It go to the coffee shops like 5
1:32:05
minutes, 10 minutes, whatever it is down the road.
1:32:07
And in that 5-10 minutes, that's like when I'm loving on my car
1:32:11
the most. Sometimes you just have a chance
1:32:14
to just like, appreciate it a little.
1:32:15
More You're going to spend more time doing that than drifting,
1:32:17
so might as well just make it simple, reliable, all that stuff
1:32:20
I. Don't know.
1:32:21
Some people don't even care about that anymore.
1:32:23
Not what? Not anymore.
1:32:24
But like, some people just don't care about driving on the
1:32:26
street, ever. No, and that's fine.
1:32:27
Like I don't really drive my shit on the street anymore, I
1:32:29
just don't have time. But.
1:32:31
I just can't understand it. You know it is what it is.
1:32:33
I'm like, that's like the best part of having a car.
1:32:35
Yeah, I don't know if this helps you out, but like when they do
1:32:37
the the little, they do a competition on the car track at
1:32:40
English Town every year. There's no prizes.
1:32:43
Oh, really? There's they're the steering,
1:32:45
like the prize for everyone at the end.
1:32:47
Top 3 is a steering wheel from Grip Royal that Chris gets.
1:32:50
From I don't want those, Scott, but it's I'd rather have
1:32:52
something cool. It's not the that's not what I
1:32:55
was like kind of getting at, but it was the fact that at the
1:32:57
drivers meeting in the morning, when it comes to like disputing
1:33:00
a win, he's like, there's literally no disputes.
1:33:02
You guys win nothing. You guys are getting a steering
1:33:04
wheel. Why are we arguing about this?
1:33:06
This is supposed to be fun. Yeah, absolutely.
1:33:08
So like I feel like if it's not the check, think of something
1:33:11
make. It fun?
1:33:12
No, it'll be something. Make it fun.
1:33:13
Stupid like. Like a body kit.
1:33:15
That's a lot of money. Bro no, no.
1:33:18
I mean, I like the big like billboard checks.
1:33:20
I think that's funny. Oh yeah.
1:33:21
Or like little small trophies like they do in Japan.
1:33:24
An SR20I. Mean yeah fuck it right?
1:33:27
No, all my drivers already have SRS.
1:33:28
They. Don't need another one.
1:33:30
But you know, just something, something like a gimmick thing
1:33:33
I've always been big on like puns and gimmicks throughout
1:33:36
Knuckle Up, like a lot of stuff, like no one really gets.
1:33:39
It's only dumb shit that I thought of so.
1:33:43
Now, now I'm going to pay attention just that little.
1:33:45
Bit there's a lot of little stuff like.
1:33:46
Oh yeah, you're going to pay attention, A.
1:33:48
Little bit more. If you ever go back and look at
1:33:50
shit like the Summer Saga stuff like years ago, those were all
1:33:54
based off of old WWE wrestling, like Flyers, like all that
1:33:59
stuff. The first couple of Double Cup
1:34:03
stuff was like copies of like old Houston mixtapes.
1:34:08
So Houston people wouldn't know that, but like the general
1:34:11
public wouldn't. No, that I think that that's
1:34:14
fucking brilliant. Yeah, it's just what?
1:34:16
It's just a yeah. It's just like little dumb shit
1:34:18
like that. It pulls and shows like you
1:34:21
more. It's just like I'm just copying
1:34:23
other people's shit. That's all I do and put my twist
1:34:25
on it. I'm not original.
1:34:26
I'm taking. It out, it always feels, yeah,
1:34:29
when you're doing something, yeah, it's like, yeah, someone's
1:34:31
definitely done this before. Yeah, I mean that's how S
1:34:33
thirteens are like everyone's done every iteration color body
1:34:36
kit of S13 like. You're like, I gotta be
1:34:38
original. But then you see.
1:34:39
Something and you're like, it wasn't done yet.
1:34:43
I know and I know. You're like shit.
1:34:44
Yeah, and that looks like shit. You like pushing an?
1:34:46
Envelope too though, and doing things that people haven't done
1:34:49
yet yet. So like, are you getting tired?
1:34:51
Do you? Are you running now?
1:34:53
Mean there, Yeah. No, there's always another dumb
1:34:56
shit like you can pull off. Honestly, you know, I don't
1:35:00
know. Are you liking your car right
1:35:01
now or are you thinking you're going to change it?
1:35:03
No. I'm not changing it.
1:35:03
I was going to say I'm waiting for the next.
1:35:05
Development. No, the only.
1:35:07
Thing, the only thing that I'll do on this car is put the LMGT
1:35:10
fours on and GT wing because there's a there's a, we call it
1:35:14
the pink Tierra car. And it's the exact same arrow as
1:35:17
my car, but it's green. It's a green car.
1:35:20
It's raised up a little bit, big tire and it has AGT wing, like a
1:35:22
gross wing. And I like got really obsessed
1:35:26
about this car and I always give Josh shit.
1:35:28
I'm like, all right, Josh, like when you're ready to drive, I'll
1:35:30
build this pink Tierra car. So our cars are similar kind of
1:35:33
and then I'll do that. But yeah, the like the wing, the
1:35:38
trunk painted already. The wheels are ready.
1:35:40
That's all it is. It's just whatever.
1:35:42
But this car just like drives sick as it is, and it doesn't
1:35:45
need to change. So yeah, it's timeless.
1:35:47
I'm just maintaining it. It's fine.
1:35:49
Yeah. So.
1:35:50
It looks like a magazine car to me.
1:35:53
It's sick. That's why I like it so.
1:35:54
Freaking much? Yeah.
1:35:56
What? Good.
1:35:56
Is that anyway? It's an M Sports Rep.
1:35:58
It's a Modello Dr. It's really fucking good.
1:36:02
It looks pretty solid. It's really good.
1:36:06
I did buy be in hood so being I'll put a be in hood this year
1:36:10
on it. It's going to look exactly like
1:36:12
the fucking demo car. Yeah, yeah.
1:36:15
And I and I, if I would have had the Garsons, yeah, it would have
1:36:17
been that car. But I sold them off.
1:36:19
Damn. Yep.
1:36:21
Do we post questions? Yeah, we got questions.
1:36:23
Oh, nice. All right.
1:36:25
Yeah, now I'm curious because I wonder what kind of questions
1:36:27
Jimmy's going. To they're all going to be
1:36:28
bullshit. No, they're not.
1:36:30
I bet I bet those fucking ask question suits are useless.
1:36:33
No, we. Oh no.
1:36:33
Sometimes they're they work. Sometimes, and then, I don't
1:36:37
know, sometimes they ask you what your favorite fucking
1:36:39
animal is. That's fine.
1:36:40
I don't care. Don't burn through them.
1:36:43
Fuck yeah. What do we got all right?
1:36:47
Fucking same bullshit from last time.
1:36:48
Yeah, of course. Fucking what's your Taco Bell
1:36:50
order fucking. Taco Bell orders the same as
1:36:52
Kev's number 7 chicken quesadilla, double meat.
1:36:58
That's different right off the. That is different though from
1:37:00
yeah from other ones because. Kev put me on the double chicken
1:37:02
on the quesadilla. OK.
1:37:04
Yeah, that's a different. Everything else sucks to talk
1:37:06
about. Run trap supreme.
1:37:08
Nah, damn. No, dude, I used to be big Taco
1:37:10
Bell. And then like, I like, didn't
1:37:12
have it for a while. And then I had it and I was
1:37:14
like, dude, this shit's dude, like.
1:37:15
Yeah, your stomach. Cannot not even that like I have
1:37:18
an iron gut like I can I'm a garbage disposal.
1:37:20
All fucking say everything still, Yeah, like.
1:37:23
To this day, 100% damn. Yeah, but like, talk about just
1:37:26
like, dude, this shit, like why? It's the it's the same seven
1:37:28
ingredients packaged 8000 different ways.
1:37:31
Yeah. It's ass and you guys actually
1:37:33
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1:37:35
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Like sometimes we'll be like, yo, you guys want to get crazy
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Dude, I'm trying to go that halal guys with you.
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Oh, the real, the real one. Yeah, yeah, that.
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Would be but with the D cars and then we hit the yeah.
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Whatever, I don't care if the one the one in the things.
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Yeah, I always remember that video.
1:40:14
That's the first thing I think of.
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Frankie is like, oh dude, I want to go the whole.
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That's so funny. I'm glad, yeah.
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That's the spot because you can like pretty much throw a
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So then it's like a nice little place to meet up.
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Then you go have a law guys and. Dude, that was like when we used
1:40:31
to drift in Queens and shit. Yeah, dude, that was the we
1:40:34
drive our cars over there, like drive down Manhattan, like
1:40:37
fucking breaking everything. Yeah, it was good.
1:40:40
It was awesome. That's awesome.
1:40:41
Anytime you're over there for sure.
1:40:44
Someone said how tall are your parents?
1:40:46
Oh my pops was 5 five. I should say like 5-8.
1:40:52
OK, that's that's strange. We and my mom is probably 59510
1:40:56
maybe. What happened?
1:40:57
What, what, what did? What did you mean side of the
1:40:59
family? They're all all the men over My
1:41:01
mom's side of the family are over 6 three.
1:41:03
So like my uncle's 63. My great uncles was like 6465.
1:41:09
I'm 66, so yeah, that's just, it was just on the mom's side of
1:41:13
me. We're all like Nordic.
1:41:14
Or something taller than me. Yeah, we're all Nordic or some
1:41:17
shit, whatever those Viking people are.
1:41:18
Yeah. Yeah.
1:41:20
That's why, that's why. Everyone was trying.
1:41:22
To put me into perspective, like damn, I forget that I'm kind of
1:41:25
short. That's why so many people were
1:41:26
fucking scared when those yeah, no, absolutely Vikings came,
1:41:29
yeah. Yeah.
1:41:30
Dude W you you you lucked out on?
1:41:32
That I did. Sure did.
1:41:34
Another one Why are you so tall? We don't need to do that 225
1:41:38
tire cap when. Oh, that's probably Adolfo's
1:41:41
post. It is.
1:41:42
Yeah, it is. He preaches 225 but all his car
1:41:44
is like 500 horsepower burnout thing.
1:41:46
Is that the? 235 is not the right number,
1:41:50
it's 2. 2540. It's 235 probably.
1:41:53
No, but he wants a 225 tire cap. They do another.
1:41:57
What if you have seventeens? 45 you can't do a 225 because
1:42:01
they don't make one in 17 yeah but everyone runs eighteens yeah
1:42:04
Dolph was like that all the time he just runs like a stock
1:42:06
quarters 500 horsepower RV cars and like.
1:42:09
That's kind of cool though, that.
1:42:09
Just does like rolling burnouts during drifting.
1:42:12
That's kind of. Like it sounded insane.
1:42:14
At T5. Yeah, yeah, whatever.
1:42:20
But dude, like there's we have a buddy that we met in Japan and
1:42:23
he drifts in Spain and their comp there is 225 really St.
1:42:28
tire. So it has to be like a a like a
1:42:30
like a street, like all season something.
1:42:33
And then it kind of forces everybody to find somewhere else
1:42:36
to get an edge. And it makes it pretty
1:42:38
interesting from when they were talking to us. 235 is pretty
1:42:41
fair I think. Yeah, I think.
1:42:42
That, that's crazy, 'cause really there was Team Orange.
1:42:49
It just slid my mind. The guy runs team Orange.
1:42:53
Kuma Kumo, yes, Kuma Kumo. He, I think that's who he said
1:42:57
there was like there's no difference between a 235 and 265
1:43:01
because technically the ratio is about the same. 265 is heavier.
1:43:05
So if you run a 235 on a 9 1/2, you might have a little bit more
1:43:09
like patch, but it's really similar based on the ratio.
1:43:14
So if you run a 235, it's a lighter tire, you'll be faster
1:43:17
than a 265. I just know I never had any
1:43:19
fucking grid with a 235 but it also had shitty tires.
1:43:22
The ratio what like diameter? Yeah, to the.
1:43:25
Contact patch Yeah, 'cause on a 23540 your sidewall is a little
1:43:30
bit taller than a 265, but your 265 is wider, But like, there's
1:43:36
really not that much wider. But because it's wider tires,
1:43:39
heavier or something like that, it's probably some old myth just
1:43:45
nerding out. RIP let's.
1:43:50
Go a lot of shoe shoe on head stuff.
1:43:52
Oh yeah, of course, yeah. Shoe head shout the shoe head
1:43:54
chat. Yeah.
1:43:55
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you and. You.
1:43:57
I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.
1:43:58
Yeah, they have a Hatch group chat.
1:44:00
Too. Oh yeah, I know.
1:44:01
I started that. Oh, I heard about that recently.
1:44:04
Me and Logan Davenport started the 180 chat and then the Sylvia
1:44:09
chat started because the 180 chat.
1:44:11
Someone found out like that but I left the 180 chat after I sold
1:44:14
my 180 and then. Honorable.
1:44:17
That was an honorable. Yeah, of course.
1:44:18
Yeah, Yeah. That's Sepika.
1:44:20
Oh, that. Yeah, perform.
1:44:22
Yeah. So I left and then the Sylvia
1:44:26
chat started, and then the Sylvia.
1:44:27
Chat seems a lot more reckless. Dude, Sylvia chat's sick, dude.
1:44:31
It's so good. I don't know if I've used the
1:44:33
word sick, but there's. 180 chats full of pussies
1:44:35
apparently. Yeah, I guess.
1:44:37
Yeah, that's. Like cuz Kev will tell me and
1:44:38
he's like, dude, we're nowhere near like that.
1:44:40
I was like, yeah, we're fucking sick.
1:44:41
Yeah, where you have a mole in there.
1:44:44
Beating you info. It's all right, I got moles in
1:44:46
the 180. Chat, it's fine.
1:44:47
Josh has a mole for the Sylvia chat.
1:44:49
Yeah. But yeah, then the Sylvia chat
1:44:51
boys, they added me after I built this thing and whatever.
1:44:53
So it's, it's pretty funny. I was like, I'm only here
1:44:56
because I started that and it's like kind of.
1:44:59
Weird. And someone was like, yo,
1:45:00
there's a lot of people in here. I was like, what?
1:45:01
And I looked at it and I was like.
1:45:02
Dude, Yeah, yeah, it was nothing at one point.
1:45:05
Yeah, it was cool. Cuz I remember when it was like
1:45:07
pretty. Tame but.
1:45:08
When did you make that the? The one I ate chat so I put
1:45:13
together Let's see so I OK here's the story.
1:45:17
So I part out and bought. A bunch of parts, right?
1:45:19
That was the whole thing. I did also hear that.
1:45:21
Yeah, that was that too. We can go into that.
1:45:23
That's money. Money's money, man.
1:45:24
That's. Money's money, but I I had tried
1:45:28
to. What was I doing?
1:45:31
I'd, oh, I'd gotten a S13 patch shell and I need an Sr. and the
1:45:36
only way to really get an Sr. is to buy a car that has one, take
1:45:39
it out, part it out, make it out, and you usually end up with
1:45:41
a free Sr. That's usually how that works.
1:45:43
Ideally. Yeah.
1:45:45
So there's one that was probably about an hour and a half away
1:45:49
from here and went and go looked it up.
1:45:51
It was like S15 swapped, like swapped way back in the day.
1:45:54
Very cool. And the guy was like kind of
1:45:56
bullshitting on pricing. And I was like this kind of
1:45:59
issue, yada, yada, yada. And anyways, I end up buying
1:46:04
that car, bringing it here and it was after looking through it,
1:46:06
the bones were way better than the shell I had.
1:46:09
So then I put like all my stuff on it, so it was like full Cokie
1:46:13
180 again. Quickly.
1:46:14
Quick bronze to E 171818 perfect spec GTR spec.
1:46:20
It had a Maxis and a bricks. It was like perfect.
1:46:24
Me and Damon put together the car like Z32, brakes,
1:46:27
everything, it was perfect and it was just a paint job away.
1:46:32
And then I went off to the deep end and stripped the whole thing
1:46:34
down like I was going to do like whole interior paint, exterior
1:46:38
paint, all that stuff. And I gave it to Logan to paint.
1:46:42
And Logan like sat on it for like a fucking year and didn't
1:46:44
do shit. And I was like, I have to have
1:46:45
this car before my kids born or I'm not going to put this thing
1:46:48
together. And it just never happened.
1:46:49
He just never did it. And so I sold everything.
1:46:53
I kept that motor and eventually all the parts I had leftover
1:46:57
from like the thing I built this car, but that was whenever I
1:47:02
left the Soviet, I had that car and built the 180 chat because
1:47:05
me and Logan were like trying to like do this cool.
1:47:07
Like very 2001 period, correct. 180.
1:47:11
Yeah. And like Logan was like, hey, we
1:47:13
should kind of like get everybody together and do this
1:47:15
chat thing. And I'm like, OK, I sure.
1:47:17
Like he's like, you know, a bunch of people.
1:47:18
It's an article. He is like one of the people
1:47:20
that talks the most in that chat.
1:47:21
I was. I'm sure, yeah.
1:47:22
I mean. Yeah, it's like Kevin too.
1:47:25
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. So anyways, yeah.
1:47:26
But after I sold in part of that car out, I left the chat.
1:47:29
Yeah, it's honorable. I get it, man.
1:47:31
But what year was that? 2019?
1:47:33
I'm trying to remember when the fuck I even joined that shit.
1:47:36
Yeah, probably around then maybe.
1:47:41
Yeah, maybe 20-20, something like that, yeah. 180 chat
1:47:48
favorite. Gucci Mane song.
1:47:53
Let's see, let's see. Let me check.
1:47:57
OK. Because I can tell you right now
1:47:59
there's a couple I didn't. Realize you were, that is.
1:48:03
That a regular play in the Sylvia while you're drifting.
1:48:05
No, dude. That's what I just go.
1:48:08
Right now, Gucci Mane was just plain going in.
1:48:13
Let's see, what is my? Let's see, I'll tell you right
1:48:20
now, Gucci Mane. I'm reading these questions
1:48:23
right now. All right, good fuck.
1:48:29
First date out always classic. Those are good noises.
1:48:37
Yeah, I'm. Like that?
1:48:39
Trying to think about it here, going through my thing.
1:48:41
You're a freak for that. Let's see, let's see, let's see,
1:48:45
let's see. Going through my playlist here.
1:48:49
Lemonade and the yellow Z was. Probably lemonade was.
1:48:52
Kind of cool. It was really cool.
1:48:53
So at college I went to an all black college at HBCU.
1:48:58
Interesting. It was sick.
1:49:00
And so I at that time, like Gucci Mane had just came out and
1:49:04
stuff like that, like out of prison and stuff.
1:49:06
So that was really cool. So there was like a lot of Gucci
1:49:09
stuff. Like a lot of people were like,
1:49:10
hey, what's like, they always ask me like, what's your
1:49:13
favorite music? Stuff like that.
1:49:14
I was like Gucci Mane, Like, no fucking.
1:49:16
I'm like, shit, dude, fuck yeah. Man, I don't.
1:49:22
Know there's a lot I'm trying to figure out my library here we go
1:49:27
ah here we go now we're getting here servants pretty good that's
1:49:30
probably one of my favorite ones Gucci two time every time I'm
1:49:35
listening Gucci two time is pretty my favorite 1 because
1:49:37
every time I see it I just like I'm ready to just fucking load
1:49:40
the AR up and just shoot a block up dude I'll fucking.
1:49:42
Yeah. Commit felonies.
1:49:44
I don't fucking. Curious.
1:49:47
That's some Texas shit. All right, there's not too much
1:49:52
in here because we posted this too late, but Kyle Allen says
1:49:56
just sending love to JY. I watched that hatch back into
1:49:59
you and I kind of cried. Oh, yeah, What the fuck
1:50:02
happened? Someone crashed into you.
1:50:04
Yeah, maybe that is that team Berserk Kyle.
1:50:06
No, no, this is a, this is a person from where we're from.
1:50:09
Alan Kyle. Alan Kyle, they're.
1:50:12
That hatch into me? What the fuck?
1:50:14
I don't know, I watched that hatch back into you and kind of
1:50:17
cried. Maybe.
1:50:18
I don't know. He's probably.
1:50:19
Did you get hit by a hatch? Maybe.
1:50:22
I don't know dude, why does Alan?
1:50:24
Wait, is he talking about the raffle?
1:50:26
Oh. I don't know, Alan.
1:50:29
Back into. You you should hatch that back
1:50:31
into you bro. Yeah, I don't know.
1:50:34
What the fuck? He means, or maybe get the hat,
1:50:35
maybe buy another hatch or something, I don't know.
1:50:38
Yeah, he probably spelled something wrong or something.
1:50:39
Yeah, maybe. He wants you to get the Hatch.
1:50:42
Back in you. Oh, maybe.
1:50:43
I don't know. I don't know.
1:50:44
No, that's not what he is. He he fucks something up, but
1:50:46
yeah, that's fine. Well, either way, you got some
1:50:48
you got some fans on the East Coast.
1:50:50
So yeah, yeah, Josh is in here not saying anything of relevance
1:50:54
of. Course.
1:50:55
No, no, no, no. No.
1:50:56
What did Josh say? No, no, no.
1:50:57
Yeah, Reed. Reed would.
1:50:57
Say it. My FN That's right, I knew he.
1:51:03
Was going to be FN dude, I'm telling you he's Josh in A.
1:51:05
Lot, dude. I talk to Josh regularly
1:51:07
whenever I have an idea, and you'll either be a really long
1:51:10
tangent or it's a like the message and then it's next.
1:51:13
Dude, yeah, me and Josh are like you'll never.
1:51:16
I know he always talks about you bro.
1:51:18
Again, I know the bromance is real.
1:51:20
They're just talking shit about you.
1:51:22
Yeah, I know, I know. I.
1:51:23
Know that, Josh? Don't know.
1:51:24
It's not just Frankie, actually. Not really about Frankie.
1:51:27
Really. It's just about everybody else.
1:51:28
It's awesome, Yeah. Well, you found your soul mate
1:51:31
there, dude. We are fucking Class 1 haters.
1:51:34
Yeah, it's Josh has always he's been the number one hater by us,
1:51:38
but it's it's a good time. It always is VHS refresh said
1:51:43
looked like you were keeping up with the higher powered cars at
1:51:45
final bout pretty well. Wait, I might have fucked that
1:51:50
up. He said keeping up with the
1:51:51
higher cars at final bout pretty well.
1:51:53
So maybe he meant like. Yeah, the higher car, yeah.
1:51:55
Like the car seemed to be working pretty good.
1:51:57
If I'm about the when I had the pink car, that was like the
1:52:02
first time I left final bout like happy with my driving after
1:52:07
9-10 years. Damn.
1:52:09
Yeah, it took me a long time because I never like, never felt
1:52:12
like I was like, OK, this works, this works.
1:52:13
This, yeah. And that was the best set up car
1:52:15
probably. Yeah.
1:52:16
And then this last year was by far my best year.
1:52:19
Of driving, yeah. Wow, you like?
1:52:21
It was sick like. Everything, the car just worked.
1:52:24
It was low. You kind of disproved the whole
1:52:25
high car thing 100%. I'm 100% and I preach it now.
1:52:28
I'm like, dude, like it just I don't.
1:52:30
All I did was lower the coilovers.
1:52:32
I did. I set the car up perfectly for B
1:52:34
knuckle like well, not maybe not perfectly, but like where I was
1:52:37
happy with it like everything. And then I just went smaller
1:52:40
tires and lowered it and it just drove fine.
1:52:42
And yeah, it like worked. I was super afraid that going to
1:52:47
find about like this low like going on entry and like scraping
1:52:50
everything. But like the stance coilovers,
1:52:52
like I literally sold my XR ones like the D1 spec ones and just
1:52:56
went basic stance. Oh wow.
1:52:58
These aren't the ones with the extra little.
1:53:01
No, because they won't go low enough.
1:53:03
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I just sell them.
1:53:05
I sold them and then bought these.
1:53:06
So they're just basic stance and they like.
1:53:09
There's car. Yeah.
1:53:10
Night and day to something else. Oh yeah, 100% And like the car
1:53:12
didn't scrape on anything. It was like perfect.
1:53:15
I didn't crack a Fender. The only reason the Fender is
1:53:17
cracked is because I hit people like it doesn't hit on tires or
1:53:22
anything like that. Like it just works and that's
1:53:24
like fully compressed it found about.
1:53:26
This is the formula that I'm trying to make for my car
1:53:29
without. S13.
1:53:31
No, no. No, you're trying, you know,
1:53:34
it's the same shit that everybody else has to do with
1:53:36
like. Josh is clapping right now,
1:53:38
listening. Big kits on Fr s s and shit like
1:53:40
that. Stop trying to make an S13.
1:53:42
Just build an S13. No yes they drive different
1:53:46
that's all it is. Stop.
1:53:47
I just want it to be a little better.
1:53:49
It's OK, but it's never going to be an S13.
1:53:53
It's him. And Josh go back and forth.
1:53:55
It's just. I argue with Josh about the same
1:53:57
shit, yeah. Because it's it's.
1:53:59
I'm right. I'm right?
1:54:01
It is the best car. I mean sure, but like I'm not
1:54:04
even saying it's the best car, but like it's going to drive.
1:54:06
It's going to drive. Let's talk about drifting.
1:54:08
It's not like you're going to go get a fucking Jay ZX100 and it's
1:54:11
going to drive like an S13. It just doesn't.
1:54:13
You're expecting. And you kind of do have that.
1:54:15
Well, no, the the thing that I'm missing is I feel like my car's
1:54:17
just it was from me being poor for like and never.
1:54:22
OK, what do you want to? What do you want to?
1:54:23
Do. Move like a JZX that I rode in
1:54:27
and drive in around but for some reason I'm missing something in
1:54:30
there. OK, I don't really what did JZS
1:54:32
have? A1J but.
1:54:35
Yours has one J, right? Yeah, yeah.
1:54:36
OK. What turbo?
1:54:38
Same factory, OK boost up. Are those wheelbases the same?
1:54:41
No. Yeah, I didn't think.
1:54:43
That's all it is. It's not the same car.
1:54:45
Yeah. Same subframes.
1:54:47
It doesn't matter, it's just not going to be.
1:54:49
It's also driving style. That too.
1:54:51
So that I know I'm I'm like never really happy lately with
1:54:55
my driving. I tried to be the like I tried
1:54:58
when the pink with the car to be like the aggressive driver, shit
1:55:01
like that and like like hard flicks and stuff like that.
1:55:04
And it's just like that's just not my style.
1:55:06
Yeah, I'm real floaty. Let's like do that.
1:55:09
Like that's fine. Like I'm.
1:55:10
That makes me feel really nice that you said that.
1:55:12
It's just not like I tried it. Nothing wrong with it.
1:55:15
I'm not knocking it. I wanted to try it, see if it
1:55:16
works, stuff like that. I just maybe I could do it with
1:55:19
more practice, obviously, but like, what's the fucking
1:55:23
difference? Yeah, you're.
1:55:24
Making a square into a circle. Dude, I drive a fucking car
1:55:27
track 10 times a year. Yeah, at the end of the day,
1:55:30
come on now. Like why am I trying to do stuff
1:55:32
that's? Pole cat though.
1:55:34
Pole cat. Yeah, I'm, I'm pole cat sick.
1:55:35
Dude, that is. Not a car track.
1:55:37
Dude that track is fun. Dude, I cannot wait to go.
1:55:41
I just that car is a good lead car because my friends
1:55:44
appreciate that the line is usually smoother.
1:55:46
That's just how I learned how to drift.
1:55:48
I'm the lead car, yeah, I just go wide and just float it.
1:55:50
Out. That is usually what I'm doing.
1:55:51
Yep. And like, don't spin.
1:55:53
Yep. That's.
1:55:54
It don't do anything special. Flip your rearview mirror up.
1:55:58
Don't worry about it. It's their job to follow.
1:55:59
You don't care. Hey, good luck.
1:56:02
So we were talking before in the kitchen and we were talking
1:56:05
about whatever we were talking about before we did the break.
1:56:08
The art versus act and the acting of drifting.
1:56:10
Yeah. And I was like, I was like,
1:56:12
dude, sometimes I'll just be at the track and like someone will
1:56:14
come up or they'll be talking to you and they're like, and you're
1:56:16
looking at their car and they're like trying to relate to you or
1:56:20
something. And like, yo, yeah, dude, I
1:56:23
think I'm going to do this. And I'm like looking at their
1:56:24
car and I'm just like, you just don't get it.
1:56:28
Nope. But that's okay.
1:56:29
No, yeah, 100%. But like, you just don't get it
1:56:31
right. And I feel like Josh in that
1:56:33
moment because that's how me and Josh are.
1:56:35
But like, do you ever run into that situation?
1:56:38
Every day. And like all the time, you feel
1:56:41
like an elitist in the moment almost.
1:56:43
But it's like. Well, Jimmy knows he's right,
1:56:46
dude. Yeah, well.
1:56:48
At. The end of the day, whatever
1:56:49
those people are going to do aren't going to affect me.
1:56:51
Like, you know, they're just not going to execute whatever they
1:56:53
right. That's what I mean, big talk and
1:56:55
like, I know what it takes to get this kind of quality car or
1:56:59
build the car or anything like that.
1:57:01
And like just based on what? Maybe it's just fucking
1:57:04
judgmental, whatever. But like based on like their car
1:57:06
and what they look like, it's like, dude, you're not capable
1:57:08
of it. Yeah, you know, like I'll, I'll
1:57:10
do lip service and say OK, yeah, cool.
1:57:12
You know, good luck you. Know exactly if you.
1:57:13
Need any help please reach out I'll be more help you to guide
1:57:16
you whatever but like you know fucking 9 times out of 10/10
1:57:20
times out of 10 in six months to a year they're not even in
1:57:23
drifting or they have a different car ready or.
1:57:26
Yeah, or the LSA is already swapped in.
1:57:28
Not even that. Or like they say they're going
1:57:30
to do this this and this or they like have this half ass Sr.
1:57:33
swapped and like, oh, I'm going to clean up the engine, babe, do
1:57:35
you have to do all this stuff? And like, yeah, yeah, it's two
1:57:37
years and the same thing. Looks it looks the exact same
1:57:39
fucking. Thing I feel like they're
1:57:40
overwhelming themselves with being like I need.
1:57:43
They just don't like. They don't know how to project
1:57:45
advantage, they don't have a good foundation and live set up.
1:57:47
Well, and before all that, I think they're just missing
1:57:50
something that other people have that they just don't have what
1:57:53
the extra. Cromie.
1:57:54
It's just the execution. What like they're just not gonna
1:57:57
be able to do it. They don't.
1:57:58
Have the drive, they just see it.
1:57:59
Maybe they just like doom scroll all the time and they just.
1:58:02
Like they, yeah, like they see what they like and I'm not.
1:58:04
Like don't know how to work towards it or anything like
1:58:07
that. And they never set real goals.
1:58:09
Like, I don't know. But yeah, I, I, there's a lot of
1:58:11
people that come to me at events and say I want to drive knuckle
1:58:13
up. This is my goal.
1:58:14
Like da, da, da, da. I have this, this and this.
1:58:17
And I'm like, all right, cool. Yeah, yeah.
1:58:18
And eight times out of 10, it'll be like you're you're never
1:58:22
going to make it because you're, you're going to, you're nowhere
1:58:26
near it. Like they have either like a
1:58:29
Hyundai Genesis, a Corvette Mustang, and you should see the
1:58:35
DMS that I get all the time, like, Oh yeah, I'm going to make
1:58:37
KU. I'm going to do it like this or
1:58:39
like, hey, what do I need to do to get into KU?
1:58:42
I'm like, have you not fucking scrolled to the page?
1:58:45
Have you? Do you not understand what we
1:58:47
post? Like what we're looking for?
1:58:48
Like, is it not that obvious to show you like?
1:58:52
That's the first problem, yeah. And they people are just
1:58:54
oblivious. They are just oblivious and they
1:58:56
have no idea. I don't know if it's lazy.
1:58:59
I think they're just. I think they're just, no, I
1:59:02
don't think it's laziness. I think people.
1:59:04
Are no, it's not laziness, it's stupidity.
1:59:06
Like it's something. I wouldn't even say stupidity, I
1:59:07
think people are just unaware. They're just unaware like this.
1:59:11
This Instagram. I literally got, I literally got
1:59:14
Adm. I literally got Adm like hey,
1:59:16
when's your next event? I don't see anything on your
1:59:18
page on when the events are. Our yearly calendar is pinned.
1:59:22
It's the very first post on the page.
1:59:24
God bless you, Jimmy. That's all I'm gonna say.
1:59:27
It's every day. It's every day there's at least
1:59:29
one DM where it's like. If anyone that calls you an
1:59:32
asshole or anything like that, they're not.
1:59:34
They don't understand. They don't.
1:59:36
Because that's why I give people my phone number to call me and
1:59:38
talk. To me.
1:59:38
Which is. Crazy.
1:59:40
That's awesome. I.
1:59:42
Don't know. Assholes don't do that, I know.
1:59:43
But it's whatever. But I've, I've been through the
1:59:46
mud. Like there used to be a time
1:59:48
where, you know, we were in Facebook battles and talking
1:59:51
shit and people were like style versus driving and da da, da,
1:59:54
da, da. And I like, you know, that was a
1:59:56
big problem for a lot of years. And then you know what it is,
1:59:59
what it is but. I want to, I want to bring us
2:00:02
back to something because we were talking about them not
2:00:04
getting it or whatever. I can relate this to another
2:00:07
thing that would happen a lot right when final bout started.
2:00:10
We'd have like dudes from club loose or like other just
2:00:13
drivers. Like they'd come up or like hang
2:00:15
out with us and like while we're hanging out, they'd be like,
2:00:17
yo-yo, I'm going to, I'm going to put a team together, this and
2:00:20
that or some shit. And I'm like, right, yeah, Like
2:00:24
I'm sure you are in my head. I'm like, I'm sure you are.
2:00:26
They never do, no. Ever And I, I told Simba, I
2:00:29
said, hey, anybody that starts off team, they have to be a team
2:00:32
for two years before they drive. Please, please two years minimum
2:00:35
because there's like I will call people out.
2:00:37
I call people out for team hopping.
2:00:39
Dude, yeah, that's what they all did.
2:00:40
And I was like, that's not a, that's not the.
2:00:42
Point you're on one team and then this team and that team
2:00:44
like. And if you don't have a team,
2:00:45
that's fine, yeah. You don't need a team stop.
2:00:48
It needs to be organically the people that have teams or like
2:00:51
created teams just for fun about they never last.
2:00:54
Yeah. Yeah, that's.
2:00:55
It works really shit and I'll call you out on it.
2:00:56
I don't care like it. That's not part of it.
2:00:59
Like you have to be a fucking nerd.
2:01:01
Yeah, literally. To do the team thing.
2:01:03
It'll lose its luster if it's just.
2:01:07
It's not like I like Willy nilly.
2:01:09
No, I I definitely told Simba a couple times joke, I mean
2:01:12
jokingly, but like still like, dude, teams have to be two years
2:01:15
before they compete. Fun about.
2:01:16
I think you can't just round out a team and fortunately I've been
2:01:20
involved in fun about and Simba's has been like, Hey, you
2:01:23
know who's who, you know, hey, what about these people, these
2:01:24
people, and I'll start to tell them they literally just created
2:01:27
a team for this. Like don't.
2:01:27
Let them. And just to continue my rant of
2:01:30
bitching real quick on my final thought, you so you want to
2:01:35
create a team? You want to do?
2:01:36
Yeah, me and so and so, yeah, yeah.
2:01:39
Yo, I have a crazy idea. Why don't you just fucking try
2:01:42
to join one of the other ones that's already a team and we all
2:01:44
live close to each other. Oh, you.
2:01:45
But you, you can't let your ego down, dude.
2:01:48
All the time. And I'm like, because if someone
2:01:51
came up to us when we were in the peak of it and they wanted
2:01:53
to do that, we probably would have been like, yeah, please.
2:01:57
But it's like always, no, I need to start it.
2:01:59
Yeah, no, no, like, and that's like I said, final out or
2:02:02
knuckle up, Final out, feeder series.
2:02:04
You can start a team Dr. knuckle up, practice, get good together.
2:02:08
Our rulebook is the exact same as final out.
2:02:12
And you can beat. You're literally getting groomed
2:02:14
to make sure that if final out is your goal, you're going to
2:02:17
achieve it and you're going to be able to go.
2:02:19
That. Dude I don't know how you
2:02:21
fucking did all this shit but like thank God.
2:02:23
Dude, I I just wanted to bring home final bout to here because
2:02:26
I I loved it so much. You didn't run out of air to
2:02:30
keep. Preaching.
2:02:31
The same shit it's I don't. Know I'm just like I'm stubborn
2:02:35
Bless you bro like. I would get.
2:02:37
To this that's. Exactly what I'm thinking and.
2:02:38
Then I would end up like walling myself off to just be able to
2:02:43
even enjoy. Something yeah, I've I've been
2:02:46
burnt out and I was at the I was like, dude, I I think this I'm
2:02:49
going to give it one more year. Yeah, I can only imagined.
2:02:52
And, you know, and then I took that you're kind of chilled a
2:02:55
little bit more and not really put as much effort into it and
2:02:58
stuff like that and like, took a break and, you know, whatever.
2:03:00
And then, yeah, I just, I don't know.
2:03:03
Now I think being a dad helped because it's like, I can see the
2:03:06
bigger picture. More people were dependent on
2:03:08
me. So I can't just like, be selfish
2:03:10
and be like, OK, let's just end it.
2:03:13
We're done. Yeah, that was the other.
2:03:14
Thing there's way too many people that are like, they
2:03:16
don't, they don't want to go anywhere else.
2:03:18
They don't have it in their place to go the the friendships
2:03:21
that have been created. The.
2:03:22
Relationships, like, if you look at the bigger picture, it's
2:03:25
pretty fucking crazy what like Knuckle Up has done.
2:03:29
Yeah, like as far as like that. Looks crazy to us.
2:03:32
Yeah, and it's cool. Like it's cool to see because in
2:03:35
my eyes it's really not that big, but I think.
2:03:38
You just told us your mailing list is 200.
2:03:40
Drivers well. Yeah, but like our driver are
2:03:42
like. Spread out, yeah.
2:03:43
But like our events are usually like 4050 drivers.
2:03:46
It's really not that big. For the longest time I I kept it
2:03:50
at 40. I didn't want more than 40
2:03:53
drivers. That's a nice day.
2:03:54
Yeah, it's never been about the money.
2:03:56
Yeah, it never had. Like I could open the
2:03:58
floodgates, let anybody fucking drive and fill that bitch up
2:04:01
with 100 drivers every fucking time if I wanted to.
2:04:03
Yeah, but it's going to look like Mad Max.
2:04:04
It looks like shit. I don't want to deal with it and
2:04:06
all this other stuff. And like I'm pretty sure all the
2:04:09
drivers know each other. I know every driver like I can,
2:04:12
you know, everyone says hello. I say like I'll stop drifting in
2:04:15
the middle of the day and like go get on the golf cart and go
2:04:17
drive around and say hey, check on everybody.
2:04:19
Make sure stuff like that. Like because that's more
2:04:21
important to me than just like have an event and just have
2:04:24
people show up and drive and whatever, like.
2:04:26
I think it's pretty important that not.
2:04:29
I think it's crazy and good that you grew in a way where now, I
2:04:35
don't know, sometimes that friend group is at that event
2:04:37
and then let's say you just actually did get burnt out and
2:04:40
stop. Those friends might have stopped
2:04:42
drifting too, or like kids in the area would just not that
2:04:45
that at the time what was cool now that it's gone so quick to
2:04:49
them. Yeah.
2:04:50
And they might not have anything.
2:04:51
Yeah. And then you move on and do
2:04:53
other stuff. That's fine.
2:04:54
But. But yeah, no, go back to your
2:04:56
question about having people ask stuff all the time.
2:05:00
It's just most of the time it's never going to happen.
2:05:04
And I will spend all the time to like, help develop someone.
2:05:08
Those people never come back and ask, yeah, there's only been a
2:05:11
couple people that have been like, oh, hey, I'm thinking
2:05:14
about doing this and do this. And 10, dude, I hate when people
2:05:17
ask for my opinion and then don't fucking do it.
2:05:21
And then they do something else and I'm like, what the fuck do
2:05:25
you expect? Yeah.
2:05:26
And then they finally go back and do something because like so
2:05:28
and so told them the exact same I fucking told them six months
2:05:31
to a year earlier. Oh yeah, it works.
2:05:34
I'm like, dude, I've been doing this a long time.
2:05:36
I'm trying to make sure you, you like skip go and collect $200.
2:05:41
Stop going around the fucking Monopoly board.
2:05:43
And it's just infuriating. It's such a dad thing to do.
2:05:47
Me asking about S chassis making my car.
2:05:49
Better don't stop fucking dumb. I had like Carl.
2:05:54
Also has he has a tendency to do like we'll tell him to do
2:05:58
something and he'll be like I. Believe I'm right right then and
2:06:01
there. I'll fucking burn through the
2:06:03
fire. Yeah, before I tell you I'm.
2:06:05
Wrong. And then a year later or and
2:06:06
then I'll do it and then he'll do it.
2:06:08
I. Will say I will admit I'm wrong.
2:06:11
Every time if I, yeah, if I call you out every.
2:06:13
That's good. Yeah, he'll he'll say all.
2:06:14
Right. I'm sorry there.
2:06:15
You go, that's all that matters. Yeah.
2:06:18
Uh oh. I, Lily Bell, you.
2:06:19
Want to come sit down? You want to come hang out?
2:06:23
Told you the kids are going to come in here.
2:06:25
This is my daughter. Her name is Lily Ray.
2:06:27
Hi, Lily. Can you say hello?
2:06:30
Did you have a good time at the mall?
2:06:34
I like your. Ears.
2:06:35
Yeah, you can. Ears.
2:06:36
These are new, huh? Frankie has the same ones.
2:06:38
Probably do. You got a new tattoo?
2:06:41
Excellent. Told you she'd be shy.
2:06:44
How old is she? She is 3 but she's about to turn
2:06:49
or I told you she duck her head I.
2:06:51
Told you it was close. It was.
2:06:52
Close. Yeah, my sweet girl.
2:06:54
That's the best. Yep.
2:06:55
Dude, that's what it's about right now, yeah.
2:06:57
I think that's why you have so much patience for these people.
2:06:59
DM. 100% yeah, yeah, like. Look how calm you just became
2:07:03
because you knew when it was. You got to.
2:07:04
Yeah. Right.
2:07:05
You want me to fix your ears? You got it.
2:07:08
OK. You want to be on the podcast?
2:07:09
Do you want to say anything on the mic?
2:07:10
Yeah, you could say something to the mic.
2:07:11
It's sweet, girl. How many kids you have?
2:07:14
2. OK, I got a boy and a girl, I
2:07:17
got Lily and then I got Otto. Is he in the cars yet?
2:07:21
Dude big into cars. Dude.
2:07:24
It is awesome. Hot Wheels.
2:07:26
He just carries Hot Wheels around all the time.
2:07:29
They love the JZX. They play in it all the time.
2:07:32
The JZX, the back, the back seat, it like folds down like
2:07:36
the center and they can crawl into the trunk.
2:07:38
So they just crawl from the back seat to the trunk, hop out of
2:07:40
the trunk, swing back around, uh.
2:07:42
Oh, uh oh. Auto.
2:07:45
Hey, buddy. Hey, you want to come?
2:07:49
Come. On we're talking about cars.
2:07:50
Yeah, You want to come talk cars?
2:07:54
Hi, Mom. Oh.
2:07:58
Oh man. Yep.
2:08:00
So yeah, Otto's super into cars. Lily, she likes cars too.
2:08:06
She we watch drifting a lot. Yeah.
2:08:09
So we watch like like shirts tucked in the animal style stuff
2:08:15
like. Old Doryton stuff just planting
2:08:18
like oh. Dude, it was.
2:08:19
So funny we. We were.
2:08:21
Were we coming? Back from Chick-fil-A the other
2:08:23
day and we, we talked about the broken BMW.
2:08:26
Was that right? Yep.
2:08:28
So we were like, we were underneath the highway.
2:08:31
Yeah. And there was like a guy in the
2:08:33
the turn around, like the roundabout, and he was just like
2:08:37
revving and doing his bubble tone.
2:08:38
And Lily was like, Daddy, I think that car's broken.
2:08:42
I was like, yeah, they, they tuned it to sound like that.
2:08:44
It doesn't sound good, Huh? It's like, no, I think he needs
2:08:47
to take it, bring it over and we can fix it for him.
2:08:50
And I was like, that's right. We sure can.
2:08:53
Right. Double you.
2:08:55
Double you. So it was it was pretty funny.
2:08:57
That was that was a pretty funny one.
2:08:59
Or like, I mean, you'll probably see it like in KU clips, like
2:09:02
the kids are always riding their golf carts and like, we'll just
2:09:05
take them around and like. So you bring them to the events
2:09:07
and. Everything.
2:09:07
Oh, they're at every event. That's memories that they'll
2:09:10
like. Yeah.
2:09:11
Hopefully it'll like just kind of be like, why do I like?
2:09:14
Being here or like, like, I don't know, I always talk about
2:09:16
how they'll never what their experience is super rare.
2:09:21
Yeah, you know, like who's dumb enough to bring kids to a
2:09:25
different all the time. That makes no sense.
2:09:27
But yeah, they're they're at every event.
2:09:30
They're not big enough to ride in cars yet, but eventually they
2:09:32
will be. But I mean, we'll, we'll pull
2:09:35
the cars out and like cruise the neighborhood and like just do
2:09:38
stuff like that. Yeah.
2:09:41
But yeah, she she's been to every event or every event for
2:09:45
the last three years or so. They come out all the time and
2:09:49
be. Drifting soon?
2:09:50
Maybe the pink car was hers. That was that was the whole
2:09:53
thing. That was the Lily mobile.
2:09:54
She let me borrow it for a year and then we painted it and
2:09:57
changed it and now it's back mine, right?
2:10:00
She had a friend of ours had a baby.
2:10:02
Now she's a kid like a Now she's 7.
2:10:04
When we met, she was like 4. Yeah.
2:10:06
So during the course of the time, Quan, during the course of
2:10:09
the time, you just see them grow up and then they grow up at the
2:10:11
track and then they. Learn to.
2:10:13
They learn to be at the track. Yeah.
2:10:15
And now Stone bag, she's just walking around checking tire
2:10:18
pressures and spraying water on the tires and just being a part
2:10:22
of it. And it it's just insane to me
2:10:25
that like, time flew like that and a human grew.
2:10:28
It's a Motorsports kid. Yeah, for sure.
2:10:31
It's like we went to mid pawn 2-3 years ago or something like
2:10:35
that. I think Lily was like 1/1 and
2:10:37
1/2. She was like walking and we were
2:10:39
like teaching her how to do lug nuts on the wheels and like she
2:10:42
was like just helping and stuff like that.
2:10:44
Or like auto when I'm working out in the car, if I'm like
2:10:47
changing wheels or like checking something, he'll just do like
2:10:49
the like the JDM squat, you know, and then he'll just tap me
2:10:53
on the back. Like good job, you're working
2:10:54
hard, good job. Thank you.
2:10:55
And like always helps out and stuff like that.
2:10:57
That is, that is a good man. Oh yeah, the kids, the kids live
2:11:00
in the garage. Like I always get upset because
2:11:02
the house is full of toys or but any as soon as I bring a car
2:11:06
home or something like that, that's all they want to play
2:11:08
with. Like the if the trailer and
2:11:09
truck is outside, they only want to play on the trailer.
2:11:11
I have to bring the ramps out because they'll run up the ramp,
2:11:14
play on the trailer, run down the other ramp and just loop
2:11:16
like that. It's almost like they're related
2:11:19
to you somehow. Yeah, somehow.
2:11:21
Right. They transferred over.
2:11:23
But like, I was like, dude, we can get rid of all these toys
2:11:25
and I can buy like more trailers and cars and stuff like that and
2:11:28
just have the cars play with the kids, play with that stuff.
2:11:31
Right. Would you want that?
2:11:33
More cars for Daddy. Right.
2:11:36
Yeah. Oh yeah.
2:11:37
Oh. She's walked in, we're on.
2:11:38
What are we doing? Yeah, what are we doing?
2:11:40
Should we get rid of some toys and get in another car?
2:11:45
Yes, she's like. She's locked in.
2:11:46
You're winning. Yeah, but but yeah, no.
2:11:49
And like, yeah, you just got to have to do it.
2:11:52
I get that comment a lot. Like, how do you balance, like
2:11:55
driving cars and stuff like that?
2:11:56
And like it's just support system like.
2:11:58
How hard was it at first I? Thought I was going to have to
2:12:01
quit. Honestly, that's why I didn't
2:12:02
want to start KU because Kayla, my wife, she wanted kids.
2:12:05
Like she was adamant like that's she grew up in like a kind of a
2:12:08
large family and stuff like that.
2:12:09
So she like wanted kids. And I was like, I cannot not
2:12:12
give Kayla kids. Did you want kids the whole
2:12:14
time? I never wanted kids.
2:12:16
It's. Funny, because right now you'll
2:12:17
like And I'm hearing you talk, Yeah.
2:12:19
Because I have KUI have about all those.
2:12:21
Those are all my kids. Yeah.
2:12:23
That's pretty much how I treat them.
2:12:25
Yeah. I never wanted kids.
2:12:26
Kayla wanted five. My wife.
2:12:27
Oh, and I was like, this isn't going to work.
2:12:31
Like, we're going to have to just end the relationship.
2:12:33
So Otto Vado, you want to come buddy you?
2:12:35
Want to come save my lap? Go get it.
2:12:43
Yeah. He's such AI, call him Titty
2:12:45
Boy. He's such a dude.
2:12:48
He's such a mama's boy. He's about to turn 2.
2:12:52
He's about to turn 2. And we're we're doing his
2:12:54
birthday party. It's too fat or too.
2:12:56
Yeah, too fast, too furious. And it's, we just used AI to use
2:13:00
the original Fast and Furious. Oh, my gosh.
2:13:02
And we took away everybody's face.
2:13:03
It's just Otto's face. Like we're like Paul Walker's
2:13:07
face is it's sick, dude, Dude, yeah, 2 Fast, 2 Furious, it's
2:13:11
sick. We're going to have all the cars
2:13:13
here and stuff for him. It's really cool because he's
2:13:15
super in the cars, but. I'm glad that you became a dad
2:13:18
because literally this is pretty fitting.
2:13:20
For you, yeah, it's pretty natural.
2:13:23
But yeah, a lot of people would like ask like how do you balance
2:13:25
and stuff like that? It's just a support system.
2:13:27
Like my wife's incredible. Like she, she mends the the
2:13:31
house and watches the kids and stuff like that.
2:13:33
When I'm like off and about, like find about or like the pole
2:13:36
cat events or even just regular KU's, you know, she's, she's
2:13:41
always taking care of the kids while I'm running this stuff.
2:13:43
So that's, that's like the big thing.
2:13:45
I think a lot of people don't have that when they have kids
2:13:47
and they're trying to still do any kind of like extracurricular
2:13:50
activities. Yeah, and drifting is such a big
2:13:53
commitment. It is.
2:13:54
It's a lot, not only financially, but just like.
2:13:57
And a lot of people don't really understand it's it's a hard
2:13:59
thing to understand. I feel like for the for an
2:14:02
average user on a car, yeah. Yeah, Why would you want?
2:14:05
Yeah, because it's a complete waste of everything.
2:14:08
It's really just out of pure enjoyment.
2:14:10
But you know, it's just like the one escape I have, essentially.
2:14:15
And yeah, and I try to incorporate the kids as much as
2:14:18
possible. Do you have other hobbies or is
2:14:20
it drifting your? Driftings.
2:14:22
That's it. Yeah.
2:14:23
No, not anymore. It used to be video games I used
2:14:26
to play. Me and Harris used to play tons
2:14:28
of games, that's it. Like what?
2:14:31
Dude, all kinds of stuff. Name it, we played it.
2:14:33
Call of Duty. Yep, that's the only game I
2:14:35
cared about. Oh, really?
2:14:35
No big Halo used to play a lot. Of Halo, yeah.
2:14:39
Destiny 1-2 like I probably have.
2:14:41
Damn wait, these are getting into the long?
2:14:43
Thousands of hours of that stuff, God.
2:14:45
Dude, like when I hear that stuff, it stresses me out
2:14:48
because I'm like, yeah, I'm just thinking thousands of hours and
2:14:51
we're talking about drifting being nothing.
2:14:52
It's like no that. Yeah, like any kind of battle
2:14:54
Royale, like during that era of like, like Pub G or like.
2:14:59
So you and Damon be running. The streets.
2:15:01
No, I don't. I don't play with Damon anymore.
2:15:03
Because Damon I. Play with Damon like one time.
2:15:05
Like I played like Fortnite at launch, but I haven't played
2:15:10
like anything after. That I didn't know anything
2:15:12
after. That, yeah.
2:15:13
And then it. Came out, so you had to try.
2:15:14
For me to play, it was Call of Duty.
2:15:16
Call of Duty Battlefield, those are like the big like
2:15:19
multiplayer stuff. Yeah, but like played like all
2:15:21
the fallouts. Me and Harris play like a lot of
2:15:26
like Co-op. What do you even call them?
2:15:28
Like campaign. Not even campaign, just like
2:15:31
open world games, yeah, like RPG open world stuff like we'll just
2:15:35
sneak like 40-50 hours into one and just like.
2:15:38
Saying bro. Crazy like whatever.
2:15:40
World or whatever. Yeah, my dad, my dad broke me
2:15:43
when when I was young with video games.
2:15:44
He completely shattered it because like every time I'd be
2:15:47
playing a video game game would just walk in, look at me and be
2:15:49
like, what are you doing? Yeah.
2:15:52
And I'm like playing with my friends and he's like.
2:15:56
Did you grow up only child? Only child.
2:15:58
No. OK, so I was only child, Yeah.
2:16:00
So yeah. So my parents were just like,
2:16:02
and my parents were a little bit older and so like video games
2:16:06
were just like the thing to do because I didn't have anybody
2:16:09
else to like play with at a time or like.
2:16:10
Yeah, my dad would just look at me like I was a failure.
2:16:12
Yeah, like. Completely no my my parents.
2:16:15
Were OK. Like I played tennis in high
2:16:17
school and college. So like I had the rotation of
2:16:19
like when we were to school, we did tennis practice and then
2:16:24
before we had jobs, because we all had jobs in like 1617 tennis
2:16:29
practice. And then we come home and play
2:16:30
Halo 2. Halo 2 was and that's all we
2:16:32
did. And then we do.
2:16:33
We had. We'd be up at night at my
2:16:35
friend's house playing. This we, we had like school from
2:16:38
8:00 to 4:00, whatever tennis practice from 4:00 to 6630, eat
2:16:43
dinner and then either we had like private lessons or groups
2:16:48
tennis till like 9 come home and then from like 9/30/10 to like
2:16:52
1-2. It's Halo.
2:16:54
Yeah, you can't stop. And then we go sleep and then go
2:16:56
school and that all the time. And then when we had jobs, it
2:16:59
was like school, tennis practice jobs, Halo.
2:17:03
And that's what we did from, like, fresh, like all through
2:17:05
high school, yeah. And that's what we did.
2:17:07
And then that in college was the same thing.
2:17:09
Dude Halo was so huge back then. Dude like I how?
2:17:12
How old are you, Jimmy? I am I turned 35.
2:17:15
In orange. So we're the same age.
2:17:16
Yeah. Yeah.
2:17:17
It was the same video games. Yeah, yeah.
2:17:18
I. Had PlayStation so I could never
2:17:20
fucking play. Everyone was playing.
2:17:22
Halo two and three, but like. Halo two and three I bought.
2:17:25
I waited in line, bought the Xbox 360, got it at launch just
2:17:29
to play Halo two more because Halo 3 didn't come out and
2:17:32
that's all I literally like I was like, oh, Halo 3's gonna be
2:17:34
coming out. I gotta keep.
2:17:35
I gotta get this. So I like.
2:17:36
I wonder when it turned into Call of Duty.
2:17:38
It probably. Probably whenever.
2:17:40
So like. Most.
2:17:40
Yeah, Modern Warfare, yeah. So Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare
2:17:44
was O seven OK same year as Halo 3 or yes?
2:17:49
I think black because. 360 came out in O 6.
2:17:51
The first Black Ops was the one for me.
2:17:52
I was like, this game is addictive.
2:17:55
So like that, the Fallouts, I mean, even before that I played
2:17:58
like all the news for Speed Underground.
2:18:00
Oh yeah, yeah, 1 and 2 Carbon, Midnight Club, all the Double O
2:18:03
Sevens back then, like the night game, like night Fire and stuff
2:18:07
like that. So, PlayStation 2.
2:18:09
That you had. Me wanting AZ 8.
2:18:10
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know why I wanted.
2:18:12
A car, but it was. But then like a lot of stuff
2:18:15
online back in the day, it was like we played like GTA5 when it
2:18:18
came out, played tons of Minecraft when it was out, just
2:18:23
all that stuff. Are you laughing any?
2:18:25
And then like, Minecraft, my guy's good, dude.
2:18:29
So yeah, we used to do that all the time.
2:18:30
Then kids came around and I kind of had to quit, yeah, quit video
2:18:33
games to keep drifting, keep going and stuff like that.
2:18:35
But. Yeah, video games is one of
2:18:38
those things where it's like I even find like if I start
2:18:41
playing another one, I'm sitting there now I'm a grown ass man
2:18:43
alone and I still, I feel my dad like looking over my shoulder.
2:18:46
Yeah, no, no, me and Lily just finished Pokémon ZA on the
2:18:49
Switch. I was going to say, we just
2:18:50
played the new Pokémon game. Dude, it's like always in my
2:18:52
head. Right.
2:18:53
We caught all the Pokémon. Yeah, we did that just recently.
2:18:56
Well. When you have a kid, when you
2:18:57
have kids, it's even better because you're like.
2:18:59
Well, yeah, but like I try to like make sure like with the
2:19:03
like Pokémon, we went in and like I read out the story and
2:19:06
like, Oh yeah, let's go, we're going to go catch this Pokémon
2:19:09
now, let's go find it. And so like, you're not.
2:19:10
Just playing it to play for. No, like I try to like make it
2:19:13
somewhat educational as corny as is, but just have them involved
2:19:16
because. Corny, you're being a fantastic.
2:19:18
But still but. Yeah, we do stuff like that.
2:19:22
We haven't really played much else, but they'll get to the age
2:19:25
where, you know, I'll probably get back into it and we'll have
2:19:28
like 3 systems or like something and like.
2:19:31
Now you can have a. Squad.
2:19:33
Yeah, have a squad and we can go play together and stuff like
2:19:35
that. That's the end goal because then
2:19:38
I can just like, relax and like, all right, kids, you better eat
2:19:41
all your dinner. We got to go play, you know,
2:19:43
squad or like go start a Minecraft server and we're like
2:19:46
building houses and stuff. Together like.
2:19:48
The Yates. Whatever, that'd be super sick
2:19:51
so. Yeah, that was all the
2:19:53
questions. So I mean, we're pretty much
2:19:54
good. I mean, this is one of my
2:19:56
favorite podcasts. Good.
2:19:58
I'm glad dude, Jimmy, it's been a.
2:20:00
It's things were nice to finally get to meet, like we've got to
2:20:03
only meet passing before. So I was like really?
2:20:05
I hope I get to do a pod with them sometime.
2:20:07
And I've been trying to do this for a while.
2:20:08
Yeah, I know. I like I used to manage a a shop
2:20:11
in Boston and I'd fly out to Boston every quarter and I was
2:20:15
trying to like this is I or I got like go last year January of
2:20:21
that job, but I was like trying to always like, oh, maybe I'll
2:20:24
just fly in like a weekend early and go to fashion because I
2:20:27
always like Jimmy was like, hey, you should swing by.
2:20:29
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like all.
2:20:30
Right. Yeah, I'm that would be fun,
2:20:31
dude. Yeah.
2:20:31
And just do like that whole thing.
2:20:33
But I I never like this. Yeah, just like hang out because
2:20:35
I fly into Logan all the time. And then Jimmy's shop was like 2
2:20:41
1/2, three hours. Maybe you're away from Boston or
2:20:44
something like that. Yeah, I'm like, I was like
2:20:46
thinking I'm like, you should come out for an event one day or
2:20:48
we'll all plan to hang out. But I know it's, you know, you
2:20:51
got kids and. Everything that's tough, yeah, I
2:20:53
got to bring them around. The faction demo.
2:20:56
Oh yeah, Carl's been wanting me to do an event for the last two
2:20:58
years. But only in what did you say you
2:21:02
no sign up? There's none.
2:21:04
No, if I'd only that's how it was.
2:21:06
Oh yeah, The first KU was like that because the, the KU was
2:21:09
going to be like Texas All Stars instead of Kansai All Stars.
2:21:13
And it was, I invited like the coolest, like the, I think we
2:21:17
only had like 20 or 25 cars that I really thought were like super
2:21:21
cool. And I invited them all out.
2:21:22
And that was the first KU and it was sick.
2:21:25
Like it was all the coolest cars that we had at the time.
2:21:28
And that's like set the foundation.
2:21:30
For it. But you should do the same thing
2:21:32
like. I got to talk to you about it,
2:21:34
yeah. Let me know I can help, I always
2:21:36
do. Like we're starting to dive into
2:21:39
this a little bit, yeah. Yeah, like the same thing with
2:21:41
the Chase based stuff, like I hope with all the chase based
2:21:43
Polecat and. Oh really?
2:21:44
OK, I didn't realize. That yeah, yeah, we go through.
2:21:46
Two comp that like saw you in the little.
2:21:47
But like, we went through driver applications and like, you know,
2:21:51
like, no, we can't have this car.
2:21:53
That's awesome, that. Stuff like no.
2:21:54
No, yeah, I got the e-mail the other day and it was like, you
2:21:56
know, the car's got to look good, this or that, Yeah.
2:21:59
And then he, you or whoever worded it pretty well.
2:22:01
They were like, you know, we want the cars to look good
2:22:04
because people are watching and you want to inspire the next.
2:22:07
Exactly, yeah, you got to you got to make sure that you, you
2:22:10
know, set up an example, you know, for the next generation
2:22:14
because people are watching and you if you there's a lot of just
2:22:17
like brain rod on the Internet. So you just got to make sure
2:22:21
you're not part of that and you can just set a good example and
2:22:25
like inspire the next generation so that you can just keep the
2:22:28
dream alive. I think you're doing a pretty
2:22:29
good job of that. Yeah, you're definitely doing
2:22:31
good. Yeah.
2:22:33
Frankie said this place is Chicago style haven for the
2:22:35
past. Dude, that's I literally, like I
2:22:37
said, I'm not original. I just copied Chicago.
2:22:39
That's what I saw and I wanted to bring bring that back down
2:22:43
here. I was like, yeah, we can have
2:22:44
that here. Well, that's because.
2:22:45
Everyone was like Chicago's number 1.
2:22:47
And I was like, yeah, it is. It's it's super sick.
2:22:49
And that's just what I wanted, because that's like, I went to
2:22:51
Chicago and I felt. It.
2:22:54
Yeah, dude. And I like I want this feeling
2:22:56
all the time. How do I get this feeling all
2:22:57
the time? Like the meats before the final
2:22:59
bout when you go out the. Whole time and you're like.
2:23:01
What is going on there now? Like how are all these?
2:23:03
Cars are just out. Yeah, there was, I don't
2:23:06
remember was which one was the one that we did where we ran
2:23:08
into Alexi. Like First off the was that 7.
2:23:12
That was recent. That was about 7.
2:23:13
Yeah. 7 So 7 there was that meat at the wrap shop.
2:23:17
Yep. And that meat was crazy too.
2:23:19
Yeah, dude. I just remember we were driving
2:23:22
down it was a left to go down the street to go where the rap
2:23:25
shop was and driving down the full block.
2:23:28
Yeah, was D car, yeah. And I was like.
2:23:30
Whoa no way. Have y'all ever done like the?
2:23:33
The RIP from the meet to the the post meet like through the city
2:23:36
with all the cars like the like the probably gone.
2:23:39
Runs. I probably have at one point,
2:23:41
but I was never that. Deep like that, The gallery.
2:23:46
One that's so cool. The gallery one, That was insane
2:23:51
because like that one, there was no one winning.
2:23:54
There's no comp. It was just like the coolest
2:23:56
cars in the nation going to find them out and drifting.
2:23:59
And like we did that Chicago run from the preemie in in in the
2:24:03
city, dude. And it was.
2:24:05
I've never felt that ever again. Yeah, I I remember being at that
2:24:09
event, but I don't. Know if we were on that one, it
2:24:11
was just like that was whenever the car was red and it had the D
2:24:14
magic livery and like we were bombing and just the cars around
2:24:20
us. I was like.
2:24:21
And like, if someone saw this right now, like, they'd be like.
2:24:24
What? Yeah.
2:24:24
We're like, what? What are these nerds doing?
2:24:26
But like, someone that, like is into this.
2:24:28
Yeah, they're like, whoa. Like what?
2:24:30
Oh my God. I.
2:24:32
Remember last time we went to find a bell?
2:24:33
We were at that. We just got to the hotel and
2:24:35
everyone was meeting up at one of those spots and like, our
2:24:38
hotel always overlooks us, the main highway.
2:24:41
And you just see like Simba and like all these dudes drive.
2:24:44
I was like, this is crazy. And that's, that's like, that's
2:24:47
the feeling that I'm chasing and I'm always trying to recreate
2:24:49
it. And I thought.
2:24:50
That's all it is. Well, you're doing a good job,
2:24:51
man. Thanks man, I appreciate it.
2:24:53
Thank you again for do you have? Anything else that you want to
2:24:55
add or put out there? Not that you didn't put all of
2:24:57
that out. There, just now you know.
2:24:59
But no, I just want to like, thank everybody.
2:25:03
Thank my wife for sure. Number one.
2:25:05
Yeah, my family, friends, everybody that comes to KUI
2:25:10
really appreciate it. The spectators, all the drivers,
2:25:14
speed ports for putting up with us, you know, and then like
2:25:18
everybody that's like helped out, you know, like Corey Rat
2:25:22
has helped out, Stance has helped out, USF thrash racing,
2:25:28
and then we got some other stuff cooking up this year.
2:25:29
I'm pretty excited for it. Yeah, it should be a good year.
2:25:33
26 is a good year. It's going to be a lot of
2:25:35
events. KU Lights.
2:25:37
Hey you, Light's gonna be cool. T5 Double cup.
2:25:41
That was fun. One we got some yeah, Brad, Brad
2:25:45
won the first one yeah, legend yeah, that was like our first
2:25:48
viral viral clip like Brad's big entry was the very.
2:25:51
That's the one you showed me the.
2:25:53
Other it was the first one that we hit like 100K.
2:25:55
Before I met Brad, I was just talking to him and then we're in
2:25:59
the same Discord chat and I'm like, dude, the only thing I
2:26:02
know about Speed Sports or Knuckle Up is there's this white
2:26:05
BRZ I've seen that does a pretty crazy entry there.
2:26:07
And then Brad just goes, Oh yeah, that's me.
2:26:11
Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, it was cool.
2:26:14
And everyone was just so hyped. That clip is so freaking
2:26:18
genuine. Yeah.
2:26:19
Yeah, it's cool, yeah. Yeah, cuz I treat T5 like just a
2:26:24
skate session. Yeah, that's all it is, perfect.
2:26:28
And guys who want to try it out and go for it, Drivers that
2:26:31
don't come hang out and cheer on your boys.
2:26:33
And you can see, Kevin, we're all drinking seltzers and stuff
2:26:37
and just like watching people just attack the corner and just
2:26:40
getting hyped and we're throwing our hands up, throwing our
2:26:42
that's cool, dude. And like.
2:26:43
Dude, yeah, that's. It, you know, Yeah, he was.
2:26:45
Telling me about that the. Car is coming around, there's
2:26:47
one person just is throwing their hat.
2:26:50
On Harris, Harris throws a snap. On the ground I.
2:26:53
Was like, yeah, we're like, that's it.
2:26:55
That's like the best trick. It's it's the best trick
2:26:57
competition for T5. That's all it.
2:26:59
Is such a hype clip. Yeah, it's, it's sick.
2:27:01
It's so good. So yeah, just like everybody, I
2:27:03
appreciate everybody and stuff. Well, everyone appreciates you
2:27:06
too. Thanks.
2:27:06
I appreciate it. All right guys all.
2:27:08
Right. Thank you, Jimmy, and thank you
2:27:10
for having us in your space. This has been another great
2:27:12
episode of the Texas series. We're going to keep hanging out
2:27:15
and get you some more. Hopefully get some BBQ.
2:27:17
Thank you, Eddie. Thanks, Eddie.
2:27:22
God that was awesome. Thanks man.
2:27:24
Yeah, dude, absolutely. I'm sorry.
2:27:25
I outed your ordinance. So that's Jimmy Yates.
2:27:39
Jimmy Yates. Yeah, Guys, I hope you enjoyed
2:27:41
that episode out of our Texas series.
2:27:45
Frankie's not here right now. He's on a little trip.
2:27:47
So it's just me and Eddie on the outro right now.
2:27:50
But yeah, thank you, Jimmy Yates, for, you know, recording
2:27:53
this podcast and having Carl and Frankie and Eddie hanging out in
2:27:58
Texas at your house. Great podcast.
2:28:02
Great podcast. Thank you, Jimmy.
2:28:03
Yeah. Thanks for having us.
2:28:06
So I liked the Kevin's girlfriend.
2:28:08
She made those cinnamon rolls. Oh.
2:28:11
Yeah, y'all are raving about the cinnamon rolls.
2:28:14
They had crack in it had. Crack straight crack.
2:28:17
Cinnamon rolls are crack. Yeah, Jimmy Yates, ringleader of
2:28:23
Knuckle Up. So if you guys are mad your card
2:28:27
didn't get in, that's the guy to fight.
2:28:30
They just, they just had a, an event this past weekend, right?
2:28:34
Yeah, I think so, yeah. Today is April 8th, by the way.
2:28:37
Yeah. But yeah, thank you, Jimmy
2:28:40
Yates. Hopefully we make it out to
2:28:43
knuckle up one of those events sometimes in the near future.
2:28:47
Texas seems like the hot spot for drifting.
2:28:49
A lot of stuff going on, a lot of stuff going on out there.
2:28:53
So what we got going on? What do we got?
2:28:56
This month we have our new raffle.
2:28:58
Last month was the Thrash Racing giveaway.
2:29:00
Congrats to that winner. If you want to know who won, go
2:29:03
check out Hot Lap Number. What was it?
2:29:06
One O 5. Hot lap number one O 5 this
2:29:09
month. Our raffle is a set of stance
2:29:14
coil overs of your choice. XR1 stance XR1 coil overs to be
2:29:20
exact. Stance is one of the best
2:29:25
coilover brands you know in in our realm of the car culture.
2:29:31
A lot of drift teams run stance. If you guys don't know stance is
2:29:36
ran and owned by Toge factory and Toge factory has been been
2:29:41
around forever and they make great products, great
2:29:45
everything. So stance suspension.
2:29:49
Yeah. And to enter on our website, you
2:29:51
just have to spend $5 and you're you have one entry.
2:29:55
Yeah, 5 bucks. 5 bucks. And if you want double entries
2:30:00
or triple entries. Double entries if you buy
2:30:02
Faction Motorsports products and triple entries if you buy Stance
2:30:07
suspension products. Yeah, Stance also sells like
2:30:11
oversized water pump pulleys for SR20.
2:30:13
They have subframe bushings I believe.
2:30:18
And we're slowly adding. We're going to be adding a
2:30:20
little, yeah. We're going to be adding stuff,
2:30:22
adding more stuff. If you already have stand
2:30:24
suspension, they also sell coilover covers that are only
2:30:28
like 100 bucks. So you want those add those to
2:30:31
your cart, get some extra points.
2:30:34
What else? How's the shop doing?
2:30:37
Shop is very busy. Frankie is on a we'll call it a
2:30:41
midlife crisis. Nah, he's.
2:30:44
A side quest. Yeah, he's on a side quest.
2:30:46
He found a motorcycle that he's been, you know, his dream is
2:30:51
basically his dream motorcycle. He found it in California and he
2:30:55
flew out there and now he's riding it back.
2:30:57
Well, it was in Nevada. Yeah, it was in Nevada.
2:30:59
But yeah, so it's just the boys here running the shop.
2:31:03
No, boss. So yeah, Chop is busy.
2:31:07
It's a terrible time for him to leave.
2:31:09
Thanks, Frank, but we're holding it down.
2:31:12
Other than that, get your car in here if you need some
2:31:16
maintenance. Their driving season is coming
2:31:18
up. We have definitely noticed the
2:31:20
influx of appointments. Definitely gonna need that
2:31:23
alignment. Yeah, once everybody got a taste
2:31:25
of that cold, that warm weather, those opening club loose events,
2:31:30
people have been scheduling appointments.
2:31:32
So if you want to get in here, call us ASAP because as of
2:31:36
recently we've been about a week out for scheduling appointments.
2:31:43
And if you'd like to see updates of the shop, check out our
2:31:46
YouTube. Eddie uploads about 3 YouTube
2:31:48
videos a week of shit that goes on here at the shop.
2:31:52
How are we doing on the YouTube Ed?
2:31:54
YouTube has been popping off lately, a lot of people tuning
2:31:58
in. Yeah, yeah.
2:32:00
I feel like we're finally like, you know, cracking down on that
2:32:04
algorithm. It's our videos are getting
2:32:07
pushed to different audiences, new, new audiences.
2:32:11
We got a lot of unique viewers engaging in a lot of engagement.
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Yeah, and he gets a little bonus if he hits a certain number of
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All that all that money in the Patreon goes straight to those
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what what you're putting in your body, AG1 is the way to go.
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I hope Frankie brought the travel packs with him.
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Yeah, I think he did. Literally right before he left,
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he got a travel, a box of travel packs delivered straight to the
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door. He shoved him in his book bag
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and he was good to go. Super convenient.
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Guys, if if if you're typed to be on the go, AG one has travel
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packs already, already portioned out.
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Pop it right in the cold water bottle first thing in the
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morning. You're good to go.
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Thank you, AG One for sponsoring the podcast.
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And if you'd like a welcome pack, go check out our link in
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the description. And enjoy.
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All right, see you next time, guys.
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Thanks for listening. Thank you.
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Bye. Bye.