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167: How Dr Andrew Cohen Discovered the Quantum Biology Approach to Reversing Sleep Apnea · The Reverse Aging Club with Meredith Oke

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Doctor Andrew Cohen, welcome to the QVC podcast.
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Thank you for having me. I am so excited to be here. Okay. I'm excited
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to be here, too, because you have one of those stories where you started to
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tell it to me, and I was like, what? So let's
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just start there. So we're going to rewind. I'm
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going to set the stage. You are a practice. You have a
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thriving dental practice. You're busy, you have
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kids. Everything's good. And your health starts to take a
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turn. Starts with chronic fatigue and then mild sleep apnea. And because
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you're in the dental world, you have access to all the best experts.
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So you're like, I can deal with this. Because clearly, I'm connected.
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I know all the people, I know all the things. What happened?
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Okay. So I'm going to actually go a little bit back, even just a touch
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more. Okay. Because I'm a big why guy, and
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my story really starts with why. So
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my best friend who I went to dental school with,
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and we practiced a quarter of a mile from each other,
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he came to my house, he. In
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2007, and he told me that he
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was just diagnosed with multiple myeloma. And it was,
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like, crushing. We were 34 years old. We were just starting to have
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kids. We vacationed together, we played golf together. We were our
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sounding boards in dentistry. And he actually. I was
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really about to quit dentistry. I was,
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like, 38, and I just. I didn't have a voice.
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I felt like every time I was telling a patient that they needed to do
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something, they were questioning me. And I was really lost, and I
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just really depressed and burnt out. And he begged me to go
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to a continuing education center in Arizona called SPEAR Education.
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And he literally dragged me there. And within five minutes of being there,
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I was like, I knew that this was my education home, and it
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changed everything for me. I fell in love with dentistry. Could you
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just say what it was about that program that was different from
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what you'd previously? Yeah. They helped me find my
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ability to talk to patients. And that's where I
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learned co discovery. And literally, on the
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flight home from Arizona, I revamped my entire
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practice on the plane, and I implemented it that Monday morning,
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and I haven't looked back. And now my
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whole makeup and the whole foundation of both my
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dental and my sleep practice is. Let me explain the
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etiology to you. And if you understand the why,
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then the how and the what becomes easier to
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follow through. Amazing. So this program,
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this beer program was for
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dentists or medical professionals? Dentists no, it's an
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advanced dental education center. So
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it's where dentists. If there's a couple in the country, there's
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Spear, there's a place called Coy's and Pankey and Dawson.
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Unbelievable. If you want to learn advanced
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both dental skill and running a business
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and patient communication, you really need. You just don't learn
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enough in dental school. You have to get that extra education. And it's one of
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the top places. So they gave you a training and a framework
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to relate and communicate with your patients. And that's
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what transformed everything. Yeah. And as you've seen, like
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firsthand, so good. I like jump at it and
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I like dove headfirst. So. Yes, you are. You're a keen
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learner. Yes, keen learner, Dr. Andy. Awesome. Okay,
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so fast forward a couple years. He was really struggling with his
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treatment. He was on a lot of medications and trouble sleeping.
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And, you know, we were really trying to enjoy as much time as we could
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together. And so we would share a room. One it was
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because we wanted to make sure we made it to class together,
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so. But my snoring had really become a problem and I was
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afraid that I was going to keep them up. So I made myself a snoring
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appliance and I woke up the next morning and I was like,
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oh my God, that's what it's like like to sleep. And I
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just like recently I was at a Cirque du Soleil show in Vegas and I
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fell asleep in Cirque du Soleil. That's how tired I was all the time. So
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it turns out my first patient was a board certified sleep
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pulmonologist. Okay, so just to recap, so you were sharing a
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room with your friend who was unwell. You were worried you would keep him up.
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So you're like, I'll just create a device for myself to stop
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myself from snoring. Yeah. And it worked. And you were
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like, oh, this is what it feels like to be well rested. Yeah, I had
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no clue. And then my first. We don't know what we don't know, like normal.
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I mean, like our normal is our normal. I just thought, you know, I
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young kids and I worked a lot, like crazy hours, and
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I just thought I was tired. And my first patient today was a
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sleep physician and he said, let's get you sleep tested. And I had mild sleep
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apnea. So I treated myself with an appliance
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that brought my jaw forward. And when you bring your jaw forward, your tongue
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comes with it and it opens up my airway. And like, I was great for
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a couple of years. My wife is happy cause I wasn't snoring anymore.
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But then like a couple years later, I started to snore again.
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And now my blood pressure was going up and I was gaining weight
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and like nothing really had changed and I didn't understand it.
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So I, like, I dove into sleep medicine, ultimately
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becoming board certified in 2019. And
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I was going along this. At first when I started, I was like an
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appliance dentist. I would make an appliance. And then I started learning at
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SPEAR education, where I was faculty too, that
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there was an anatomic component, you know. So what is it? I started learning about
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nasal breathing and expansion. So it tones
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and lifts the soft palate. Okay. So it
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opens up the airway. But it's not like a permanent fix.
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It's kind of like going to the gym for your soft ballot. Okay. And.
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But if you don't use it, you lose it. So you have to do touch
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ups. But it worked great. I mean, my VO2 max
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improved. During the day, I could work out. I mean, I could. I just felt
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like I could breathe easier. But then again, year
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goes by and now my blood pressure starts creeping up again.
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And they went from one medication to two medications and they said, oh,
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take another medication. It's fine. We got you managed. And that
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was like, it. I've had reflux my entire life. I was worried about being
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on protein pump inhibitor and what it was going to do to my kidneys and
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my bones, but I could not get off of it. What's a
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protein pump inhibitor for? For the reflux. Like,
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so it literally stops the production of acid in the stomach. Okay.
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And. But it has kidney and bone issues, like side effects
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to it. And I mean, I've been on it since I was in my 20s
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and if I missed a day, it was just so painful.
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Okay. So I just. So you're on the medication for the
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reflux, then they add blood pressure,
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then they add another blood pressure, and then there's like an annual
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laser treatment to open the airwaves. Yep. I just want to get a full
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picture of all the full picture interventions happening. And the
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reflux thing had been like. Sounds like most of your adult life.
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Yes. And I've been. And I was tired my whole life.
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Like, I. I was that person that would hit snooze 11
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times and all my roommates would want to kill me because I just
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kept hitting snooze every nine minutes. I couldn't get up. Yeah,
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I relate. Yeah. For now, it's 2022.
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I am wearing a bra strip, mouth tape,
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and appliance. I've done laser treatments, and
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I'm still snoring. I'm still feeling tired. I'm never feeling rested.
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So I decided to do maxillary expansion, where I
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literally separated and expanded my top jaw at 53 years
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old. What is. Okay, what does that look like in practice? Is.
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Is that a procedure or a device you put in your mouth?
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So I had eight implants
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inserted into the roof of my mouth like a kid would do,
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like a palatal expander. But when you're an adult, you need to
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anchor it with implants. And then I had to crank myself open
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until I separated. And I separated the day of
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Thanksgiving on my mother in law's couch. I heard it snap and it
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was. Oh, God. Oh, God. I'm sorry.
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That sounds awful. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't fun.
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It wasn't, you know, it wasn't really, like, painful. It just, you
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know, you lisp a lot. It's uncomfortable. But I had to fix
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myself, right? And everything that I had been told up to that
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point was the only way I could fix myself was fixing the anatomy.
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Okay? That is how we are trained. Fix
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the anatomy, fix the flow, and you will
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improve. Six days after I opened. I have never
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breathed so well in my life because I have a deviated
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septum. Okay. And when I started widening. Your
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maxilla is connected to the nasal bones, so they
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were widening too. Okay. I have not been
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congested or stuffy in a year and a half. I mean, that was like
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the single best thing. I can breathe all the time. So you might. So
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that you did that expansion and it was like
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new breath. Like, oh, my God. The breathing ways you could never
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have. You weren't able to breathe before. I thought I was fixed.
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I really thought I was fixed. And then the summer after,
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I had that taken out, six months later, now I'm in
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ortho to get my teeth aligned. I did a
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sleep study at a course that I was in in California to
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learn how to do a tongue tie release, which is really important to create
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a proper seal for nasal breathing. And they make you do sleep
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studies there to see how you're doing. And I went from mild to
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severe, and I was like, what? So you did
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this rather complex
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intervention to widen the anatomy of your jaw.
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Yes. Which did bring a lot of relief and did improve your
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breathing in many ways. Yes. But then you went and did a sleep study
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and your sleep was worse. Yes. Okay.
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Crushing, chronic Illness is so complex, isn't it?
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Like, it is not necessarily a straight line. Okay.
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So all of my colleagues told me, well,
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you know, that your jaws are both set back
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this way, so you need to now break both your jaws and move everything
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out. And I had to do something because I was
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desaturating below 90% for over an hour, which is
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like, what does that mean? So my oxygen levels
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were dropping into the 80s for over an hour while I
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slept. That makes you at a really
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high risk for stroke, heart attack, and
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there's. It's supposed to be, like, in the high 90s. Well, I mean, ideally, like,
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if you were to test it right now, you would be somewhere around 96, 97,
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98. Okay. So when you're in a hospital and you're wearing the pulse Ops on
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your finger, the bells aren't going off when you go below 94.
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But no, nurses come in. They don't come in until you go below 90.
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When you start going. Going below 90, they come into the room, they put
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oxygen on you. Like they're trying. Like, being below 90 is
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bad. And you are dropping below 90 every. Night for
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over an hour. Which is over an hour. Yeah. Which is
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terrible. I mean, you're talking about, like, high risk for cognitive
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decline, inflammatory issues. Like, bad.
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I had to do something. So from class,
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I called the number one oral surgeon in the entire country.
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His name is Mike Gunson in Santa Barbara. And I said,
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I'm in big trouble. And he said, and I scheduled for December 11th.
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And then I said to myself, well, maybe I can, you know, get myself a
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little bit healthier before I do the surgery, which will improve healing.
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And someone had mentioned about sugars, and that's kind of how I entered
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the circadian and quantum realm was
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I got a constant glucose monitor, and even though I wasn't diabetic
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or pre diabetic, my sugars would go out of range. So I
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started wearing a constant glucose monitor to just keep myself in
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range. And I started to see that I was doing
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better. But that's when I heard the podcast with
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Jack Cruz and Max Gohane, and I was like, whoa,
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I'm really missing the boat here. I'm doing exactly
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what healthcare is doing. We're looking at people from a macro
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standpoint, and we need to look at people from a micro standpoint,
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because the cellular issues that people are having,
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the energy issues, or in my case, the energy
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brownout that I was having, an exponential effect on all of
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my systems. Fatty spots on my liver,
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creeping high blood pressure Triglycerides that were high,
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sleep apnea, they're all inflammatory diseases. So
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about three months after I started. Okay, one quick
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sec. So when you listened to the podcast with Dr. Gulhane
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and Dr. Cruz, like, just summarize one more time,
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like, what the paradigm flip was for you, because so
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you were. You were like, macro to micro. Yeah, well, I mean,
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in transparency, I listen to that podcast, like, four times to start
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to understand it. Okay, well, yes, everyone does.
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That's, you know, I mean, that's part. Of the course
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cycles. And, you know, I learned it in dental school, but I just learned it
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till I could pass the test. I didn't really understand, you know, the
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implications of how your mitochondria is really the
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light water magnetism. And it was hearing that for the first
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time, for the second time. And lucky for me, my
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best friend in Las Vegas, his name is Doug Sanquist, who's also a
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dentist, he was about a year ahead of me in this journey
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and had been telling me, and he was an advocate for me, he says, andy,
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I really don't think you should do surgery. I really think you need to learn
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about Redox, and I think you need to learn about how to improve your energy
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system. And when I first heard him tell me about this,
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I mean, I thought he was nuts. And, you know, we joke about it now,
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and it was probably a month later, I'm like, wow. Like, I'm
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really, like, I feel better, you know? And it was the
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summer, so it was so easy for me to just spend more time outside.
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Okay, so you listened to this podcast. It flipped, and you were
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like, oh, maybe I start with my mitochondria instead of just
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doubling down on the anatomy. Correct. I didn't want to do the
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anatomy. Well, yeah, that sounds really awful.
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Yeah, I really didn't want to do it, but I felt like I had no
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choice. It was the only option that was given to me. Right, and so in
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the paradigm that you were working out of and that you're
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all of your colleagues work out of, it's an anatomical
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issue from beginning to end. That is what their
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working theory is. That's what they work from. And so you
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opened the aperture a little bit because you're like, I really don't want to break
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my jaw and have this surgery. And started to
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bring mitochondrial function and
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perhaps like, a bioelectric
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paradigm into the picture. Yep. Okay. And
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so then how. What did that do? Like, how did your behavior. Like, what did
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you start to do once you were like, okay, if this is True. I'm gonna
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try like, you just like going outside or like, what were your.
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Right, so. Well, I have a tendency, as you know, to jump
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all in. Yeah. But this is a hard area to jump
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all in on because it requires a lot of discipline.
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So I started with, you know, for me, the easiest thing to
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do, the easiest metric for me to check was a constant glucose monitor.
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And I started to make like really big changes. And then
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I started to see that I would have a night with
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no snoring. And then if I had like pasta or
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pizza, I would snore terribly. And I'm like, okay,
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so there's an inflammatory component here, the sugars, like. Cause
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I literally was tracking, was using the app snore lab
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and I was tracking when my sugar went
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up on my cgm and when I snored, they went
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up and down together. It was amazing. So. But then
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daylight savings happen. So in that first three months,
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I went from severe back to mild with just getting
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out into the sun during the day. I did not understand
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all the different spectrums of sun. I didn't understand red light at that point.
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And uva. I just started mitochondria doesn't care what you
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understand, it just cares. You're outside. Yeah, I
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wasn't blocking blue light at that point. I just kind of was CGM and
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getting outside really dark in uvb, which was great. I mean, I felt better
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when I was in UVB light. And then the sleep apnea went from severe to
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mild. Then daylight savings happened. And all of a sudden it was like I
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took a massive step backwards. That was my aha moment.
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Because what changed with daylight savings was my light.
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So everything else was the same, except now I was
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completely missing. All my signals were messed up. And I was
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talking to my friend Doug and Doug's like, I
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think you need to start getting more of these light signals into your
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system. And I did. I went all in on light and
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I started seeing the sunrise every day. So I would sit out in front
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of my office for 20 minutes every morning at sunrise.
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Then in between patients, I would, if I had like a five or ten minute
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break, I would walk outside during uva and then I would
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come home and I would eat my lunch outside. And you know,
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during uvb, I bought my first two pair of
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blue light blocking glasses. I bought a red light panel to
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help me use as an adjunct because I do believe that there's no
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replacing the sun. But sometimes, like, you know, right now it's what, 10 degrees where
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we live, going outside is kind of hard. So we have to, you
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know, see where can we meet our patients, where can I meet myself?
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And that's really what my focus is as I started working with
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patients back in April. Like, I want to meet my patients where they're at.
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I had blood work done in the beginning of January, and
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a lot of it wasn't all that great still. And
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I started asking them for specific tests, and they
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said, my physician, why do you want those? And I said, well, I
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wanna understand my inflammatory component. I wanna understand my
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leptin. And he's like, well, what would you do with that? And I said, well,
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I would get more red light and more sunlight and block more blue. And he
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laughed. And then three months later, I came back. My triglycerides went from
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170 to a hundred. My A1C went from
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5.7, 5.3. My vitamin D went from
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47 to 66. So. And
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now, a year and a half later, I have no apnea.
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0. I just tested it two weeks ago. I'm on no blood pressure
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medication. I am on no reflux medication.
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And I can't remember the last time I said, oh, my God, I have to
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take a nap. I mean, if I want to take a nap, I choose to.
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But before, it was like I had to schedule my whole day around the nap.
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I lost 40 pounds. I have put 10 back on since the winter,
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just because it's. I think, you know, my wiggle room, I think that's
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really the key, right? So my wiggle room with my anatomy
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is small because my anatomy is still off, right? It's still
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set back. But if I control all my factors, then my
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anatomy is not a component because I'm fixing my energy
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system, I'm reducing my inflammation. And I
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just said this to a patient that I had a consult with yesterday. Actually, excuse
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me, it wasn't a patient. I was speaking down at Temple University Hospital to the
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sleep fellows. I did a presentation for them explaining the dental
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components, the anatomy, how they need to look at their patients very
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simply to say, okay, is there an anatomic issue that could be contributing
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to this? And I said to them, I said, well, let me ask you a
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question. I said, if you twist your ankle, does your ankle get bigger or smaller?
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They said, bigger. I said, if you have heart disease, does your heart get bigger
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or smaller? Bigger. Someone who has type 2 diabetes, do they get bigger or
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smaller? Bigger. I go, why would the soft palate, why would the nose, why would
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the pharyngeal region act any different Tissue is tissue. If you're
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inflamed, it's going to get bigger. If it gets bigger, it's going to get closer
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together. You're going to snore, you're going to have sleep apnea, and then you're
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missing. The most important time for your body to heal
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and repair itself is sleep, because you're not getting into the proper levels of
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sleep to allow that to happen. So this never ending
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wheel that you're on, you're inflamed at night, you're inflamed during the day,
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your signals are getting messed up, your signals are messed up at night. So
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I open their eyes to make them understand that
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there's a lot of factors. And I've gotten a lot of
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pushback in the dental community because I'm coming at this
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and they think I'm trying to say, oh, the sun is going to fix
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all your problems. No, that's not what I'm saying. What
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I'm saying is that if you just fix
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anatomy and someone has a metabolic issue,
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you have the potential of making them worse. Because the body,
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when it's inflamed, does not want more oxygen. It
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wants to get rid of oxygen. Ho, ho, ho, ho. Okay.
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This is big. That is a big statement. Yeah. The
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body, when it's inflamed, does not want more
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oxygen. This would speak to people who have adverse
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reactions to hyperbaric oxygen treatment, which happens.
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A friend of mine had that happen with a family member.
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They were all excited. They thought this was gonna really help this
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person recover from a complex series of illnesses and
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surgeries. And he nearly died.
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So when you're opening people's airways and doing all of
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this anatomy, the thought is more oxygen is better.
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But if you, what you're saying is if you don't understand the metabolic piece,
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more oxygen is not necessarily better. Boom. So why would that
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be? One of the biggest reasons is when the body is inundated
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with inflammation. Blue light, non native EMF.
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Iron in its natural state of iron +2 goes to iron
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+3. And iron +3 can't carry oxygen in the
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body. So you become hypoxic. The body's trying to get rid of the
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oxygen, it needs more electrons. So we all
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know that free radicals, which is free oxygen,
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is what is a marker for cancer. So you know,
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or if you look at the definition of inflammation,
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it's fire. How do you make a fire flame,
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build, burn bigger? You add oxygen to it, you add
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fuel to it. So if the body is not
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reacting well, if apoptosis and tigathy are not working
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well, if we're not having enough energy to make
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melatonin to that gets your free radical,
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you are just making inflammation worse. So
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I think it's important component and what I'm trying
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to get across to the dental field or the
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sleep field is that these patients
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absolutely may need anatomic fixes.
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But, but let's see how much better they can get. If you fix
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root cause problem, which is inflammation.
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That's the etiology of every disease we have is based in
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inflammation. If you have someone that is on high blood
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pressure medication and their blood pressure is managed and you take them off
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the blood pressure medication, what happens to your blood pressure
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goes back up. Because you haven't fixed the etiology, you're managing their
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problem. If you want to try to resolve disease, you have
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to fix things at a foundational level. And that's why I
27:44
was attracted and for the last year and a half
27:48
been studying quantum and circadian biology because that's
27:52
root cause issues. And the issues that you
27:56
make on a micro level have an exponential
27:59
effect on the body. And when I was presenting yesterday,
28:03
I said, you, you remember when you were a kid and you took a microscope
28:06
and you used to, you know, get the sunlight and you would burn
28:10
blades of grass and they all laugh because they're like, yeah, we were
28:13
doing like bugs and stuff. I'm like, look, I know, but I was trying to
28:17
keep it, you know, on the download that we were just burning grass.
28:21
And I said, well, that's the same effect that you can have
28:25
when you get your energy system in your body working bright. It's
28:28
exponential. You're focusing that energy into the body.
28:32
So the body's processes are doing everything that they need
28:36
to do to run effectively and efficiently. And that's I think,
28:39
a critical piece to this puzzle. So
28:43
it's not that metabolic will fix sleep apnea.
28:46
Metabolic is an adjunct to some of the anatomic
28:50
fixes that we can do. We need to be able to offer
28:54
both, that's true informed consent. And that's my
28:58
frustration with my colleagues, is that
29:02
we're too procedure based. And in order for a patient
29:05
to have true skin in the game, they have to understand
29:09
all of their options out there. And that's my goal when I'm working
29:13
with patients to say, look, we have two boxes that we can work with.
29:16
We have an anatomic box, we have a metabolic box, and we can work
29:20
on them both together we can work on one
29:24
and then maybe switch to the other. But I don't
29:28
think just looking at anatomy and
29:32
ignoring the metabolic, we have to be able to at least
29:35
inform our patients on how they can get their
29:39
foundational energy system working better and make them understand
29:43
how important that is. And, you know, sometimes it's as
29:46
simple as making them understand that wearing sunglasses in the middle of the day is
29:50
telling your brain it's nighttime, and using blue light at nighttime
29:54
is telling your brain it's daytime. You're all of the signals that
29:58
our body is supposed to be doing at those specific times
30:02
are getting. They're in chaos. And when
30:06
you first hear about this, it's very difficult to wrap
30:09
your head around it. But then when you start to see the evidence, when you
30:13
start to understand what we're really talking about, the change
30:17
is profound. And I think I proved that in myself.
30:21
Where, I mean, look, my trouble foods are the three Ps.
30:25
Pizza, pasta, pretzels. Can't walk by it without eating it.
30:29
Okay, well, it doesn't mean I can't not eat it. I eat it all the
30:32
time. I just now know that if I eat it, 30 minutes later, I go
30:36
out on a walk and I use up my sugar so it doesn't get stored
30:39
as fat. So it's knowledge. And you
30:43
know, how you can make simple changes in your life, but the simple
30:46
changes take dedication to follow through. And that's
30:50
the challenge. This is quite the journey you've
30:54
been on, Andy. Like, truly. And then.
30:58
And to already be out in front of your peers and in front of your
31:01
colleagues educating on this and bringing that piece in.
31:04
For somebody listening to this, where, let's say this is their first time
31:08
coming in contact with this info. You know, talk to me about the
31:12
sunglasses during the day and the blue light at night. And that's throwing my body
31:16
into chaos and causing me to be inflamed, blamed, and causing
31:19
me to potentially present as needing surgeries and all these other things,
31:23
like, because of the light. Like, how is that so
31:27
reorient me if I'm in a paradigm that just doesn't.
31:31
Right. Well, it's like the current paradigm is just like light.
31:34
So what? Like it's nothing? Like, it doesn't matter. Our paradigm
31:38
is that our biology is programmed by light. So talk to me
31:42
like I'm in that first category and it's how do you
31:46
talk to your clients and your patients? Yeah, that's the challenge, isn't
31:49
it? So, you know, when you start talking about light, it seems so
31:53
insignificant. Yet we are creatures of energy
31:57
and Light. And if we don't get that system working
32:01
properly, we're doomed to fail. So what
32:04
I try to do is I try to make
32:08
analogies for patients so they can better understand when
32:12
I'm talking about sunlight. I will tell them that red light
32:15
or the sunrise, which anchors your circadian rhythm, it
32:19
gives your. It's basically resetting all the clocks in our body.
32:23
And at 8 o' clock in the morning, maybe our liver
32:27
is supposed to work. At 9 o', clock, our pancreas is supposed to work. At
32:30
10 o', clock, our heart is supposed to end. Every clock in our.
32:33
Each organ has a specific time to run a specific
32:37
function. And what we need to do is we need to turn the hands back
32:40
of the clock and get it set up every day. So we're maximizing
32:45
the process of when it's supposed to happen. Because if we miss it,
32:49
then we've missed it for the day, and then we don't get the benefit of
32:52
that function within our body or if it's going to
32:56
work, it's competing with another
32:59
bodily process. So now you're competing for energy.
33:03
So it's kind of like trying to do two tasks at the same time.
33:07
That's why it's really important to try to align your system every day. And
33:11
sunrise does that. It anchors it. It tells your body,
33:14
okay, it's time to get moving. Stop producing
33:17
melatonin, stop producing cortisol. Let's go, let's
33:21
conquer the day. And what I say to patients is sunrise
33:25
is literally the keys to the car. UVA light,
33:29
which is one hour after, is where all of our important amino
33:32
acids are signaled to be made. That's the gas to the
33:36
car. And UVB is the engine.
33:40
Well, if you miss any of those signals, the car isn't running. And
33:43
here's the key. Blue light at nighttime, after the sun
33:47
goes down, is popping a hole in your tires. So you can have
33:51
your gas, you can have the keys, your engine can be running well.
33:55
But if you have flat tires, you're not going anywhere. And that's ultimately what
33:58
blue light does. It breaks the
34:01
metabolic signals in our body so we don't
34:05
produce the necessary fuels to run our body
34:09
properly. And there's a lot of science that goes involved in that. And
34:12
depending on how much a patient or a, you know, a
34:16
client or another doctor or colleague wants to hear about it,
34:20
that I can start diving deep into that.
34:24
Blue light interferes with. Blue light causes the
34:28
calcium channels to stay open. And when a cell gets flooded with
34:31
calcium, it makes Peroxy nitrite, which, you
34:35
know, causes cellular damage and DNA damage and
34:39
cognitive problems. And what does all that lead to?
34:42
Inflammation. Point out that blue light. There are tons of
34:46
studies about the incidence of blue light in breast and
34:49
prostate cancer. Why is this not being talked about? Why
34:53
are people getting sunburns during the day? Because they're not
34:57
getting their exposure to the sun done properly.
35:00
You know, most people think of melatonin. They think of, oh, that's going to help
35:04
me fall asleep. And yes, that's true. The brain makes
35:08
melatonin that gets deposited into our
35:11
bloodstream at night to help us sleep. That only
35:15
counts as 5% of our melatonin that our body makes.
35:19
The other 95% of melatonin is made
35:22
in our cells and in our mitochondria. And the purpose
35:26
of that is it's an antioxidant. It actually seeks
35:30
out excess oxygen which is free radical. It
35:33
binds to it and it prevents inflammation and
35:37
breakdown of the body. So how do we make more
35:40
melatonin? We need UV light. Well, that goes against what all the
35:43
dermatologists are telling us, that we need to avoid UV light. But
35:47
then you look at when did skin cancer really start going up? And it was
35:50
1980s. So what happened in the 1980s? We became
35:54
inundated with technology. There are, there was a study that was
35:58
just released, it's pre printed, so it hasn't been peer reviewed
36:01
yet. And one of the contributing authors was a
36:05
dermatologist. I think it's the first article that I've seen a dermatologist be
36:08
associated with. They studied 419,000
36:12
people and found that increased
36:15
UV exposure decreased cardiovascular
36:19
and non skin care mortality with no increase
36:23
in skin cancer incidence. That's a pretty
36:27
powerful study. So going outside caused
36:31
incidences of all disease to go down.
36:34
Yes. And did not raise skin cancer incidences.
36:38
Correct. And that's it. That's the second study. There was a study in
36:42
2014 called the All Cause Mortality Study
36:45
that most of us have been using. This is why this
36:49
second study is so exciting, because it's even on a bigger
36:52
scale that has shown. They did a study of 29,000 people
36:56
in the Scandinavian countries and they had less
36:59
mortality when they were outside in the sun more. So we have to
37:03
start asking. Glenn Jeffries is a prominent physicist.
37:07
He does research. Yeah, he's a research scientist. Research scientist.
37:11
And he just had an unbelievable study that came out about the benefits
37:15
of red light and how it improves mitochondrial function when done in the
37:18
morning. Doesn't have the same effect. In the afternoon. What does that tell
37:22
us? It tells us that light signaling and the timing is
37:26
so critical to better health. And it's when you first
37:30
start, you know, when you start to hear these things and you, you start
37:33
to see the breadcrumbs that are being laid out, you can really start
37:37
to fact check all of this on your own. And
37:41
we just need to have more people start to understand
37:45
the implications of this. And why is it not
37:49
being talked about? And I think it's not being talked about because the sun
37:52
is free. It doesn't cost any money to go outside.
37:57
Yep. I think big Pharma would rather us have
38:00
Ozempic, which again is a drug that
38:04
just manages a problem. It does not fix
38:07
etiology. No, it does not. And I think
38:11
you mentioned earlier when you bring, you brought up metabolic
38:15
health and circadian and quantum biology to your colleagues and
38:18
what you were saying was we need to look at the metabolic factor.
38:23
And what they heard was what we do. You're saying what we
38:26
do, it doesn't matter and we should get rid of it. And it's like
38:30
that is the thinking that I hear every single time
38:34
someone brings up light and whatever the person's area of
38:38
focus is. If you say light is fundamental to human
38:41
health, they hear. You're saying, my thing doesn't matter. You're saying
38:45
food doesn't matter. You're saying exercise doesn't matter. You're saying
38:48
like no one is saying that.
38:54
No one is saying that. Right. It's an and. And, and
38:58
I'm taking a lot of bullets from people that I really,
39:01
really cared about and who were some of my mentors.
39:05
And all they're hearing is, I'm saying, oh, blue light
39:09
is if you block blue light, you're going to take away sleep apnea. And
39:13
that's not what I'm saying at all. You know, what I'm saying is
39:16
blue light's going to make your sleep apnea way worse. Blue light's going to
39:20
cause inflammation. Non native EMF is going to cause
39:23
inflammation. You know, it's, it's interesting. I have a friend, so
39:27
I was visiting faculty at spear, so I would go and mentor
39:31
other dentists from around the country. And one of them called me up
39:35
and she had been sick for the better part of four years
39:39
and she's been going to the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota
39:42
and they have not been able to help her. I mean, it's one of the
39:46
top out there. I can't tell you how many times I've heard that
39:49
a version of that story. Oh, like, name the top
39:53
clinic in the country in the US and they
39:57
got nothing. So I'm talking to her, and I don't know
40:00
anything about where she's from. All I know is that she's from
40:04
North Dakota. And I said to her, I go, is there any
40:07
chance that you live near a military institution? And she left.
40:12
She almost dropped the phone. And she goes, I'm in the national
40:15
reserve. I was transferred to North Dakota, and
40:19
that's where the third arm of our nuclear defense is housed.
40:23
So she's inundated with radar. So I instantly told her, I said, you got to
40:26
get a tri fold meter and you got to see what's going on. There's
40:30
not a safe place in her house except for one place, her basement, which is
40:34
underground. If she goes outside in the middle of her yard, the
40:37
electromagnetic forces in her area are nine times the safe
40:41
dose. She has no opportunity to heal. And
40:45
she literally called me. She's been doing so much better. She's been driving, like,
40:48
you know, in the warmer weather. She's been driving, like, two and a half
40:52
hours away from where she lives with her kids to, you know,
40:56
get outside whenever she can. And she was doing well,
41:00
but she realizes she has to move. Yeah. And
41:04
she called me the other day, and she goes, what do you think? And I'm
41:07
like, well, I kind of told you in the beginning, like, this is, you know,
41:10
it can't be good. We talked about getting a building biologist, but where she lives,
41:13
it's hard to get a building biologist out there. And, you know, if
41:16
you can't make your sleeping environment as safe as possible,
41:21
then you can't heal. And if
41:25
that's why this is so connected to what I
41:28
do. Yes. Because my field isn't. Is
41:32
critical. I have to get patients to sleep
41:36
because that's when they're going to heal. And if they're not getting proper
41:40
sleep, then their body's not healing, and they're set up
41:43
the next day to just rinse and repeat. Yes.
41:47
It's all connected. It's all connected. The
41:51
light in the morning is connected to your sleep that night is connected to.
41:55
To all of the symptoms that you're experiencing
41:59
that a person is experiencing. It's funny when you point things out. Well, it's
42:02
not funny, but you know what I mean. Yes. When you point things out to
42:05
people that are just so. Like, they never connected the dots. So when I
42:09
tell people, have you gone down for, like, a beach vacation? And
42:13
they're like, yeah, and I'm like, if you're in the sun all day, aren't you
42:15
exhausted at night? And they're like, yeah, like, I just thought it was the
42:19
sun. I'm like, well, it is the sun that you. You've been producing melatonin all
42:23
day long. Like your body has gotten all the proper signals. And
42:26
then it says, okay, I'm done for the day. Let's go to bed. Yeah. And
42:30
then you wake up and you feel amazing and you're like, oh, it's because I'm
42:33
on vacation. Right. And it's not. I mean, that's a component.
42:37
Yes. You know, we get to live in a fantasy land for a week where
42:39
we don't have any stress, but it goes. You know, maybe the
42:43
reason why you feel amazing is because if you get the proper light signals,
42:47
your brain starts making dopamine and serotonin on its own.
42:51
And now you don't need to get an external stimuli from
42:55
like an electronic or a food
42:59
or whatever somebody's doing because you're making it naturally.
43:02
And that's what is so crushing to me to
43:06
see all the kids across the country battle
43:10
anxiety and depression and have learning
43:14
disorders when so much of this is tied
43:17
to light. And the studies are all out there
43:21
about how blue light contributes to depression. Yeah,
43:25
there's the blue light studies showing that's true. And then
43:29
there's the teenage health studies showing that
43:32
being on your device is leading to all these terrible mental health
43:36
outcomes. But they don't connect the dots. The
43:39
conclusion on the kids mental health studies is, oh, they must be
43:43
watching stuff that's making them sad or something. And
43:46
it's like. Or it's the device itself. I don't, you
43:50
know, I'm not going to disregard the idea that there's terrible content out there that
43:54
is children. You know, that's not having a good effect. But
43:58
you could be conjugating Latin on your phone. But if it's 10
44:02
o' clock at night and the phone is on factory settings, you're still
44:05
destroying your brain and your ability to function.
44:09
And that's exactly when I mean that I meet my patient
44:13
where they're at. Okay. If they're not going to not
44:17
scroll on their phone before they go to bed, then the workaround
44:21
is just wear blue light blocking glasses. Yeah, but we're the red
44:25
ones, so we really block out and maybe lower the
44:28
lux on the phone a little bit so it's not as bright. And I guarantee
44:32
you if you're scrolling and you have blue light blocking glasses on
44:35
45 minutes late, you're going to be tired because the blue light
44:39
signals are not. You're gonna start producing melatonin. But
44:43
if you just try to put a filter on a phone, that's not enough. You
44:46
have to block the blue light. And it's. You know, they're being told, oh, I
44:50
know I shouldn't do screen time, but they're not being told why.
44:54
And that isolated frequency is so damaging
44:58
to our metabolic health. Excuse me. Not frequency, wavelength. And it's.
45:02
That's my job. I mean, I'm so excited. I have a platform.
45:06
Next week, I'm speaking in Las Vegas. And, you know, the first
45:09
half. Yeah, the first half of my talk is on anatomy, and
45:13
the second half is all on metabolic and. Oh, Andrew, that
45:17
is so good to hear. Is this like an industry
45:20
conference? It is. It's called the Breathe and Thrive
45:23
Symposium. So it's a lot of dentists who are treating
45:27
kids, who are treating adults with sleep and airway issues
45:31
and all the different. There's my functional therapists that are
45:35
there, and it's an exciting time, but I also
45:38
have to do it in a way where, you know, unfortunately,
45:43
I don't. They. I need to present it in a way that. That they can
45:46
hear it. Yeah. And so it's to
45:50
start with telling a story, and then if they want to
45:54
hear more, I think, you know, this. I'm making a mini
45:57
residency for dentists and anyone in the dental field that's starting
46:01
in April that dives deep into this so that they can
46:05
learn how they can act as an advocate to their patients,
46:09
give them strategies to help them start to overcome their metabolic health.
46:13
And so they can, in conjunction with their anatomic
46:17
procedures that these patients still need, we
46:21
can now really try to get to the root of the problem. Fix
46:24
foundational help. Yes. And it's tough sledding, but,
46:28
you know, I'm. Yeah, people want this. I
46:32
mean, you know, if there's anyone listening who's in this industry,
46:36
there is a holistic dentist about an hour from me.
46:40
And people drive from all over
46:44
to go there because they don't want
46:47
to go straight to throwing train track on their little children's mouths.
46:51
They want something that takes in to account
46:55
the entire child. Now, they don't have the light piece,
46:59
but they have the anatomy, they have the breathing, they have the food, and they
47:02
at least, you know, they're on the right track. And because they're using that word,
47:06
holistic, they're open to widening their scope.
47:09
And medical people, dental people, the
47:13
Public wants this. I have lost
47:17
count of the number of conversations I've had that start
47:20
with exactly what your friend. My child had these
47:24
symptoms. I had these symptoms. My parent had these symptoms. We went to every top
47:27
clinic in the country. No one could help. And that because none of
47:31
them asked, where do you live? What do you like? What?
47:35
They don't even think in those terms. But I'm. There are so many
47:39
people who want this. So anyone
47:42
listening? If you're a dentist, if you know a dentist, send them to
47:46
Andy's program, please. Your practice will explode
47:50
like, the public is waiting. We're waiting.
47:55
We are reached a turning point. And there's so much
47:58
frustration out there. There's so much chronic illness,
48:02
and there are so few answers. And it's interesting how you
48:06
even just phrase that. So I can't tell how many times I
48:09
went to the physician and I know everybody. I mean, I tell this story and
48:13
patients laugh all the time where they said, you know, if you could just lose
48:16
10 to 15 pounds, you would be so much better off. That is an
48:20
absolute fact. Okay. You lose a little bit of weight, it's
48:24
going to have a beneficial effect. But what happens when they finish that
48:27
statement, okay, we'll see how you're doing in six months. How are they supposed
48:31
to implement it on their own when they don't even understand what the problem
48:35
is? They think that diet and exercise is going to get them there. They're
48:39
like, okay, I guess I'm just eating broccoli and chicken breast for six months. And
48:42
then it's not sustainable because that's not where the
48:46
change happens. The change has to happen at
48:50
leptin. Leptin is the most important thing that we need
48:54
to fix in order to really bring about proper health
48:57
to your system. Right. Which is start. Which means the change
49:01
happens at light. Yeah. And let me just back that
49:05
up just a hair and say it's not the most important thing.
49:09
I don't want to sound dogmatic, and I tried to avoid making
49:12
statements like the be all, end all, but that's an important
49:16
piece to the puzzle. And diet and exercise is a little bit more
49:20
downstream. Still important. Just like anatomy. Still important.
49:24
But if I want to try to make a profound change,
49:28
if I can get my light environment, both good light and
49:31
bad light, if I can get my sleeping environment better,
49:35
those have such profound impacts that the other things
49:39
sometimes will take care of themselves. And that's awesome.
49:43
It's great to watch that happen. One patient I was working with,
49:47
she went from an hi in three months working
49:50
with me from 7.1 to 6.1. And
49:54
I know in three more months of working with her, I could get her down
49:58
into the mid fives and then she won't have to take, you know,
50:01
medication anymore. That's awesome. It's awesome. Yeah, I mean
50:05
that's. I did a whole episode on the cholesterol
50:08
medication situation, especially for women,
50:12
middle aged women being prescribed that. I have so many
50:16
totally healthy friends and they get their
50:19
cholesterol measured and it's like, oh, it's up, better take this. And
50:23
they're like, okay. And then you ask them and then they feel bad.
50:27
They feel, not only that, do they take it. They also feel slightly guilty, like,
50:30
oh, I must been, do I must be doing something wrong. My cholesterol is going
50:33
up. Not as healthy. I'm not being as healthy as I thought I was.
50:37
Right. Meanwhile, cholesterol is really important for brain health.
50:41
Let's knock that down. And what's happened since statins
50:45
became the number one prescribed medication in the world, or I should say the
50:49
United States? I don't know if it's the world, but the United States and
50:52
cognitive decline has exponentially
50:56
increased. So, you know, we have to start connecting dots.
51:00
And look, you know, I understand the struggle out there. My sister
51:03
is head of internal medicine at Penn Medicine in Philly. And you
51:07
know, this is like taboo subject. We don't, we, in order for
51:10
family function to happen, we kind of have to leave our
51:14
camps and leave them at the door because she has a very
51:18
centralized approach. And I just try to
51:21
chip away, chip away, chip away as much as I can and show them.
51:25
And when people are ready to hear it, especially like you were talking
51:29
about the average, you know, the patient, they want answers,
51:33
right. They want to have to be dependent upon medication and just
51:36
constantly feeling sick. Yeah. They don't want to take their 19 year old
51:40
daughter to a world famous clinic and be told, yeah, it's
51:44
probably just going to get worse and she's going to be in a wheelchair in
51:47
10 years. But that's just what it is, is what it is.
51:51
You hit on what I fight for and that's time. As Uncle Jack said,
51:55
the greatest commodity in life is time. And I fight for time.
51:58
Make your time, whatever we have, the most
52:02
productive, the happiest, the best quality
52:06
and the rest takes care of itself. And you gotta do a lot of
52:10
the little things in order to make that happen. Yeah. And it, you know, as
52:13
you said earlier, it's a big shift, you know, when we're new to it. And
52:16
we all started with baby steps and we're like, oh, oh. That actually
52:20
made a difference. Oh, okay. And we added a little more. We added a little
52:23
more. And, you know, it's all good. That's. I was talking with
52:27
someone recently. I'm like, you know, like, even a little bit of morning light is
52:30
better than none. And they were like, yeah. It's not like having celiac disease
52:34
where you have one, you put your finger in gluten and you're toast. It's
52:38
not like that. Yeah. You know, it's like if you go. Outside when you wake
52:41
up, you miss sunrise. Just go outside. You know, over time, you get into a
52:44
different habit. Absolutely. I mean, look, when I drive home and
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it's 10 degrees, I blast the heat in my car and I open the sunroof
52:52
and for that 20 minutes, I'm getting direct sunlight. And
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when you blast the heat, it's good. So, you know, I don't have to just,
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you know, sit outside, I walk the dog, stick
53:03
your head out the window, crack the window. There's all these different things that you
53:07
can do to get even a little light is better than
53:11
no light. Yeah. Which is like the great good news. Right.
53:14
It's like, oh, by the way, the thing that's gonna move the needle
53:18
the most is free outside every day of your life,
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even when it's cloudy. Like, I can't think of better news than that.
53:25
Right. It's easy. You just gotta walk outside, take your phone
53:29
that you wanna scroll and check out Instagram and all that
53:33
stuff, which, hey, look, I am guilty of doing that, but just
53:37
do it outside. Yep. And then it's okay.
53:42
I just want to circle back to one topic before we wrap up,
53:46
which is snoring. So you
53:49
mentioned that you started to notice a relationship between your blood sugar and
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whether you snored at night. Yes. Is there any. Is
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snoring ever normal or is snoring always
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a sign of something? Yeah, so I'm going to come
54:04
at that. So there is a spectrum of sleep
54:08
disorders. And at the most left would
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be like, insomnia, late onset
54:15
insomnia. Then you would have benign snoring, where it's
54:19
not causing a sleep disturbance per se, to
54:23
systemic snoring, to urs, which is upper airway
54:26
resistance syndrome, to sleep apnea, to like, you're not
54:30
waking up in the morning. So there's a spectrum. And it
54:34
goes back even further if you go to children,
54:38
which would be your child, that's a tornado sleeper, where
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they wake up with their head at the bottom of the bed or they wet
54:45
the bed past the age of four or you hear them grinding their teeth.
54:49
I know up until 2017, I thought when
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a parent came to me and said, my kid is grinding their teeth, I'd say,
54:56
don't worry, they'll grow out of it. Well, yeah, they grow out of it, but
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what have they grown into? So any child that makes
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noises at night, that's a sleep disorder. And
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yes, they get bigger. But how many nights of
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improper oxygens supplied to their brain is too many
55:14
for your child? For me, it's one. Right. I want my child to be able
55:18
to breathe properly. And this watchful waiting
55:22
is not helping anything because they're just growing more into the
55:25
problem. So when it comes to snoring, if you're snoring,
55:30
download the app Snore Lab. If it's over 10,
55:33
follow up, because the question would be, why are you
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snoring? And there has to be some inflammatory component
55:40
where the snoring noise is made. When the soft tissue is too close together,
55:45
the air becomes turbulent and it makes the snoring noise.
55:49
Are you doing it because you can't breathe through your nose? Well, if you're not
55:52
breathing through your nose, you don't filter the air, so you're getting more
55:56
pollutants through your mouth. If you're a child and you're breathing through
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your mouth, you grow vertically. And when you grow vertically,
56:03
the towel gets more narrow and then the soft tissue will droop.
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So there's a lot of cause and effect. The tongue is
56:11
critical in growth and development for a kid. As an
56:15
adult, once you've missed that window, your tongue
56:18
can't make a proper seal. So you never do nasal breathing and you
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do mouth breathing. And then when you fall to sleep, where's your
56:26
tongue go when you get on your back, goes in the back of your throat,
56:29
can't breathe, you become more inflamed and this never ending
56:33
cycle starts. So snoring, to try to
56:36
answer your question without going off on too many tangents, which I
56:40
tend to seem to do, snoring is a sign of a potential problem.
56:44
Let's figure out if it's something that's benign or it's
56:48
something that's causing an issue, and most people think,
56:51
oh my God, if I go find out that I have a
56:55
sleep issue, they're going to put me in that cpap. Well, no,
56:59
that's not what I'm recommending. I literally had a woman that
57:03
came to me that's been in a cpap. She just had a sleep
57:06
study. And her sleep study showed that she had
57:10
moderate sleep apnea. And when I did my examination on
57:13
her, she couldn't breathe through her nose. And I told her, use
57:17
intake breathing and a little medical mouth tape. And the last three nights she
57:20
hasn't started at all. That was her fix. Nasal breathing and
57:24
mouth tape. But she had been given CPAP for the
57:28
last year and she feels awful on CPAP
57:32
sometimes. The answer is the solution is simple
57:35
if we know where to look. Correct. And that's what I
57:39
hope to give more information, you know,
57:43
starting in April. It's at Airway Health Solutions.
57:47
The course just went live, so we're doing it
57:50
on April 17th. Okay. And this is the dental
57:54
residency. Yeah. Okay. So for all the
57:57
dentists out there are the dentists. If you know a dentist, you have a dentist
58:01
in your life. Say the link again for the dentist. It's at
58:05
Airway Health Solution and it's a solution.
58:08
Airway Health Solutions. And it's not. It's
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myofunctional therapists, speech therapists, sleep
58:15
physicians, dentists. They really. Oh, wonderful. Okay. Oh, yeah.
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It's not just for dentists. It's anyone who is in the field
58:23
of treating any type of sleep disorder. Okay.
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So sleep disorder residency. You want to bring this into your scope
58:31
of practice. Excellent. Now, what if someone wants to
58:34
work with you as a client? Where should they go? Boy, that's a good
58:38
question. So you can reach me on Instagram. That's one place.
58:42
Which is Andrew Cohen, dmd. You
58:46
can reach me at my office website, which is
58:49
sleephealthypa.com and there's
58:53
all information to work with me and then I can reach out with you. And
58:56
I have a whole separate platform that we do,
58:59
zooms. I provide information and education on
59:03
how I can help. Be an advocate for you to start
59:07
walking down and getting answers through code
59:10
diagnosis. Fantastic. Andrew, thank you so much for the work that you
59:14
do. I also want to mention we're delighted to welcome Andrew onto the faculty
59:18
at the Institute of. Of Applied Quantum Biology. He will be
59:22
doing live calls going forward. And just, you
59:26
know, it's so great to see you put your tremendous energy
59:30
and intellect in this direction. It's so needed and you're going to make
59:33
such an impact. And thank you. Oh, it's my pleasure.
59:37
I was so looking forward to joining you. It was just
59:41
a great time. We're going to have to. We'll probably do it again. It sounds
59:44
good. Oh, yeah. For sure.
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