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Ask Anything Episode: The Incarnation of Jesus · Tabernacle Talk - A Bible Study Podcast with Pastor Bryon Self

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Welcome to Tabernacle Talk. Tabernacle Talk is a Bible study
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podcast brought from Tabernacle Baptist Church in Essex, MD.
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I'm your host, Brian Self. We hope this podcast encourages
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you to know Christ, grow in his word and show his love to
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others. Let's dive right in.
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Welcome back to Tabernacle Talk. Today we are in a super
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interesting Ask Anything episode and I got to let you know today
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is a little bit deeper. So if you're like, listen, I
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just need a surface level thing for today.
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Well, actually, I'll, I'll give you a surface level thing that
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you can have for today before I answer the particular question.
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The topic for today is the incarnation of Jesus.
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That is that God the Son came into human history, that He took
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on human flesh in the person of Jesus, and He was born of the
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Virgin Mary. He lived a perfect, sinless
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life. He died for our sins.
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He was crucified and buried. He rose again in the power of
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the Holy Spirit. He walked on this earth for 40
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days, was seen by over 500 people at one time.
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He was seen by His disciples, He was seen by His half brothers
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according to the flesh, and then at the end of 40 days he
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ascended into heaven and is seated on the right hand of God
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on high. From there he will come to judge
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the living and the dead, and he will reign forever and ever on
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the throne of his Father David. That is the message of the
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gospel, and it is the story of God coming to us.
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And so let me say just right at the beginning.
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And then if you only have a little bit of time today, you
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can dip right after this because Jesus became human.
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He knows what you're going through today.
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He knows your hardships and so you can call out to him and he's
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not just going to like lend you aid as you navigate through
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emotions and hardships in your life and fighting with sin.
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He's he's not just going to help you through his spirit.
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No, he actually knows. He's felt the hurts, he has felt
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the outside, you know, temptations to send, that Satan
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tried to get him to do bad things, and other people
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throughout Jesus's life tried to get him to do bad things.
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He knows what it is to experience external temptation
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or to go through personal grief or loss or anger.
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And he did it all right. He did it all good.
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And so you can trust that when He is helping you, He's not
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helping you out disinterestedly. He knows experientially what it
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is for you to go through. And He loves and cares about
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you. And so He will help you today.
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He will help you eagerly. You are his child.
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You are his blood but possession.
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And so know that you're Jesus is for you.
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And that even to me, just right at the start of this, if I had
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to stop it right there, man, that's an encouragement to me
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that Jesus will help me. And he helps me eagerly knowing
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what I've been through. One of my favorite things as a
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pastor is when someone has a question about the Bible or
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something that I have had personally, and then I'm like,
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oh sweet, I've been there. I've walked down that path,
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walked down the path with me because this is something I'm
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excited about and Jesus doing that with us in our lives that
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he goes, I've walked through every path that you would walk
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down and I know the right way to do it.
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And so I can help you in every circumstance of your life.
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So that's kind of the cookies on the bottom shelf thing for you
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today. Now we're going to dive in deep.
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Got a call from one of my good friends back at my church in
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Washington and him and his wife, they've been talking about
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sharing their faith and hard questions and things.
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And one of the questions that they had talked about was
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Jesus's incarnation. And the specific way that it was
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kind of phrased was God. And I believe I'm phrasing this
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correctly and you guys can let me know if I didn't phrase your
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question correctly after this. So they said, OK, well, you have
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God is is 1. He's, he's unified all
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throughout eternity past. And then as Jesus comes to
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earth, you have for the first time this kind of like
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separation in the Trinity and that then Jesus, you know, he
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lives his life on earth. He, he dies buried, risen, and
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then he comes back to heaven. And so they wondered about some
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of that, what was perceived to be a breaking of an eternal
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unity and cohesion that there was in the Godhead.
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And I just thought that was such an interesting look and a great
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thing to ponder. The Trinity is, if you will,
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it's the core of the Christian faith.
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Some people, I was even talking to some of my friends yesterday
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or the day before and they had mentioned a loved one that is
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part of a religious group that kind of sort of claims
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Christianity to some extent or another, but denies the Trinity,
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denies the persons of Father, Son and Spirit, and that these
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three are one. And any group that would deny
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the Trinity is not a Christian and actually Christian group, or
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if you will, denomination, that would actually be one of the
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things that would differentiate between a Christian denomination
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and a cult or just another religion.
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So if you have some of the groups that like the Mormons or
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the Jehovah's Witnesses or Oneness Pentecostals, which is a
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very particular subset of Pentecostalism, most, most
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Pentecostals, including all the ones that I've known in my life,
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are firm believers in the Trinity and love the persons, a
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father, son and Holy Spirit. But the the Mormons, Jehovah's
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Witnesses and and Oneness Pentecostals, among other groups
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that specifically deny the Trinity, they have more issues
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than just that, but they are not Christians.
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That's not in a like, hey, I, I personally think this and here's
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who I think gets to be in heaven as a result of their goodness.
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No, that is the historic Christian faith so that to deny
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what Jesus says like you can look back at the Great
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Commission and Jesus commands us to baptize in the name of the
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Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
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And all throughout the New Testament is outline this
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wonderful mysterious truth that our God is 1 and we confess with
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ancient Israel from the book of Deuteronomy.
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Hear O Israel, Yahweh our God is 1.
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We also confess with 2000 years of Christians and then even the
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the Jewish believers prior to the advent of Jesus.
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They recognize that within the Old Testament there were hints
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about the fact that God could be in heaven, unseen, totally
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unattainable, like he tells, like God tells Moses on Mount
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Sinai, no one can see my face and live.
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And yet we're told at various times that the messenger of
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Yahweh, the Angel of the Lord, is one that speaks from the
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mouth of God. And that those that interact
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with the messenger of Yahweh, the Angel of the Lord, they talk
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about the fact that they have seen God.
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You can think about Samson's parents.
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You can look at Abraham's interaction with someone there
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at I think it's Genesis 18, right before the story of Sodom
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and Gomorrah, that there's the three men.
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The two men are angels, messengers that interact with
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Lot and with the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah.
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But then you have this other one that is identified as God, as
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Yahweh, that Abraham is conversing with him, he has a
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conversation with him, and yet Abraham lives.
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So in Second Temple Judaism, it's what was sometimes called
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like the the two Yahweh's or the 2 Lords, that's the
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tetragrammaton YHWH. And so you have on earth at
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times, this messenger of Yahweh who doesn't just say this is
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what the Lord says. It's someone actually speaking
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as though they have the authority of God himself.
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And that the messenger of Yahweh receives worship from people
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that they fall down on the face, they they worship him, He
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converses with them and it from all appearances appears to be
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God himself. But there is also an invisible
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in heaven, in the skies, Yahweh that is not seen and is
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specifically, specifically tells people that he cannot be seen.
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So the Trinity is not just a OK, the Christians came along and
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they were trying to figure some stuff out and they might have
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made a wonky formula. No, this was something that was
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already present from scripture in the Old Testament by the
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Jewish people prior to when Jesus showed up on the scene.
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And so Jesus shows up and he gives us the fullest picture and
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both from his words as I've been walking through the Gospel of
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John, this is something that John in his Gospel account
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spends a lot of time talking about was Jesus's conversing
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about the Father, about his relationship with the Father and
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about the Holy Spirit that he would send to the disciples
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after he would have sent. So I want to toss us back real
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quick to first Timothy chapter three and verse #16 First
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Timothy 316. So we were just in there a week
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or two ago where it says God was manifest in the flesh, justified
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in the Spirit, preached on in the world, believed on or sorry,
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preached among the nations, believed on in the world,
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received up into glory. That what we are told is that
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God was manifest in the flesh. And it is not that when Jesus
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came to earth in the womb of the Virgin Mary, it is not that
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heaven was then abandoned and there was no sovereign up there.
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No, the Father was there as he had been from eternity past, and
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the Spirit was there. Part of the fun of the this
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might sound weird to some of you, part of the fun of the
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Trinity is that there is a relational, communal, loving
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aspect of our triune God that he did not need us at any point in
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time like they didn't need. I technically don't know if it
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is more theologically accurate. You guys are on Tabernacle talk.
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I don't think I'm taking a, you know, orthodoxy test when I'm
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with with you guys. I don't know if it's more
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accurate to say they as in persons of Father, Son and spear
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or just he because it is our one God.
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That's part of the trippiness of it.
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So God did not need us in order to show love or kindness or to
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have any of his benevolence, to have an outlet like all
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throughout eternity past, the Father has loved the Son.
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And in kind of ancient Christian thought, the way that they
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phrased it was like the Holy Spirit is this person who is the
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love of the Father and the Son being passed back and forth to
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one another. That there is communal love and
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joy and honoring that happens. That has always happened from
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all eternity past and will be into all eternity future.
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That God is love. And that as we're going to look
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at in just one second, because I did want to highlight for us
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some of the language of the Apostles Creed, the Nicene
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Creed, and the Athanasian Creed that really give us some good
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verbiage to think about the incarnation of Jesus in line
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with what Scripture says about it.
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So all eternity past God is love, and He cares for the
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Father, cares for the Son, cares for the Spirit who cares for the
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Father. There's just this communal joy
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that is there. But what we are told is that, as
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in Galatians 4, when the fullness of time was come, when
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the right moment in history was there, that moment that had been
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prophesied all the way back in Genesis 315, that the seed of
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the woman would crush the head of the serpent that had plunged
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the human race into death and destruction and sin as a result
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of his temptation. And so the seed of the woman
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would come and crush the head of the serpent.
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Not only that, but there was the one that would be the seed of
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Abraham. And Paul tells us in Galatians 3
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and 4, not seeds, seed of Abraham, that this promise was
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to, that all the nations of the world would be blessed through
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this seed of Abraham. And then we're also told that
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there would be a prophet like Moses that everyone would need
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to listen to in order for in order to have a relationship
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with God. We're told that from the line of
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Judah there would be a person who would be the ruler over
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Israel. We're told in Second Samuel 7
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that a descendant from the seed of David would sit on his throne
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forever and would rule forever. And so Jesus, in the perfect
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time in human history, he came down.
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And this is such a miracle, Jesus when he came.
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This is where I'm going to turn over to the creeds for some of
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our helpful language. I'll reference for you some of
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the verses that these Christians back in the like 3 and 4
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hundreds, the verses that they had in mind as they put these
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lines together. So the Apostles Creed says this.
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I believe in God the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and
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earth. I believe in Jesus Christ, his
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only begotten Son, our Lord. So the phrase begotten comes
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from Psalm 2 where the Lord speaking to the Messiah says you
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are my Son today. I have begotten you, I, I have
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birthed you. This is not the way we often
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talk about like I, I don't my, my son beat this past Sunday
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from the time that I'm recording this.
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He had his birthday on March 15th and it was just a wonderful
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day. But I don't say like son,
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congratulations, you know, happy begotten day.
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It's a very much older phrase, but what we are told in
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Scripture is that this begottenness is not that he was
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created. It's specified over and over and
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over again in Colossians One and First Timothy and thousand other
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places that Jesus did not have a beginning.
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As we read in John one, in the beginning was the Word, and the
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Word was with God, and the Word was God.
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The same was in the beginning with God.
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All things were made by him, and without Him was not anything
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made that was made. So it's very clear in Scripture
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Jesus is not created. We are also told Jesus is the
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only begotten son of God. So begotten comes from 2 Greek
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words monogenes. That is, it's one-of-a-kind.
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It's totally unique. So Isaac is called the only
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begotten son of Abraham. We know that Isaac was not
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Abraham's only son. He is the unique son.
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He is the son that has a particular purpose.
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So we would even read in some different ancient Near Eastern
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like court records, this was a common way to talk about the
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king coronating the next king in line, if you will.
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God the Father is never going to pass away.
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That's that's not the kind of circumstance that we're talking
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about. But here he is eternally
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crowning Jesus as the Son, the ruler of all, and he is
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constantly doing that. So this is what's called the
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eternal begetting of the Son. I don't think I'm going to go
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into a whole lot more detail on that other than to highlight one
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thing that I heard very recently on the Bible Project podcast
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that was helpful to give an illustration of what I mean by
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the eternal begetting. So there was no initial day when
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God the Father said to God the Son, you are my son today.
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I have begotten you that. That has been an always thing
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that all the way back in the past, God the Father was
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honoring God the Son and giving him all things.
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And all the way into the future, God the Father will honor God
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the Son and give him all things. So at Jesus's baptism we have
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that heaven's open spirit descends on Jesus, and God the
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Father from heaven says, this is my Son in whom I am well
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pleased. Ditto at the Mount of
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Transfiguration that Peter's like, hey, we've got Moses and
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Elijah and Jesus here, let's make 3 tabernacles, tents,
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booths for you guys to honor you.
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Let's, you know, make 3 tabernacles for you guys.
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And all of a sudden the Father speaks from heaven and says,
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this is my beloved son, hear him, like listen to Jesus.
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And then we're told in Acts it's either four or five, Peter.
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Recounting what happened with Jesus references Psalm 2 and
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Jesus's begottenness by the Father that Christ was
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proclaimed to be the begotten Son when he rose from the dead,
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which we also read in Romans chapter one that the Apostle
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Paul highlights that for us. So just as Jesus is proclaimed
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at his baptism at the Mount of Transfiguration in his
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resurrection to be the ruling Son of God over all of the
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nations, so it has been in all eternity past and all eternity
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future that God the Father has honored God the Son.
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So he says, I believe. Oh, sorry, I, I, I took a long
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time on that. I love this topic.
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And if you were still here, I gave you a chance to get out at
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like 4 minutes in. So you're in it with me.
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He says, I believe in Jesus Christ, his only begotten son,
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our Lord, the our master, the one that is in charge of us,
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says who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin
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Mary. There's more that's within the
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Apostles Creed, but that's the portion that I wanted to talk
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about right now. That Jesus was conceived by the
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Holy Spirit, that God, Father, Son and Spirit creates like he
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is the creator God. And it's not that creation is
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relegated over to OK, well, the son is over creation, the
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Father's over something else and the Spirit's over, you know,
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making people speak in tongues like we've each got our own
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separate lanes. No, there's a a wonderful truth
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called inseparable operations that whatever the Father, Son
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and spirit do, they are working together towards that end.
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They are working inseparably for the same goal, the same mission,
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the same purpose. I've included in the show notes
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a link, an Amazon link to a book, Beholding the Triune God
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by Matthew Emerson, if I'm remembering the author
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correctly. And that is a great little book.
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Actually, I take it back, it's not little.
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It's great book on the Trinity. Strongly encourage you to read
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it. So Jesus was conceived by the
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Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit created within
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the womb of Mary, a boy Jesus had.
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Only because I've seen some whacked out stuff online, I'm
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going to mention this. Jesus was given AY chromosome
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from the Holy Spirit. That the Holy Spirit created AY
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chromosome in this baby in the womb of Mary Jesus, though he
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did not have a human father. You don't need to have a human
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father if you have God himself that is creating new life.
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Just like Adam had AY chromosome even though he did not have a
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human father. That God himself who created
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Adam from the dust could certainly create life within the
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womb. And now is when I want to turn
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over to the I believe it's the Nicene Creed.
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No, actually, I'm going to turn over to the Athanasian Creed.
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So let me throw in and we are almost at the end of the
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episode. I promise, guys.
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The creeds in the two hundreds to four hundreds AD, there were
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lots of false teachers who were saying, OK, Jesus was God, but
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he wasn't really man. Like he didn't really have a
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body. Like it was just a mirage or
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whatever. And so some of the creeds deal
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specifically with that to say, no, Jesus was truly human.
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He wasn't just an apparition. He was actually flesh and blood
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like we are. There were some false teachers
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that said OK, well, Jesus became God.
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He wasn't always God. That's where the language of the
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creeds comes in, that Jesus is eternally begotten of the
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Father, that he is eternal. He is uncreated.
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He is, as they say it, begotten, not made.
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That he is constantly given his status and purpose and honor by
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the Father. He, He has the same nature as
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God the Father, but he is one more time.
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I'm, I apologize, I'm having to rewind and think about which
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heresy I was combating. Oh, but that God.
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But that God the Son is eternal just as God the Father is
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eternal. There was no start date for God
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the Son. And so Jesus is truly God and
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truly man. So I want to now reference in
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the oh sorry, so two to four hundreds creeds, false teachers
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saying false things about Jesus that contradicts scripture.
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But they would use some scriptural verses and they would
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twist some things. And So what the many pastors of
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various churches and areas all around the Roman Empire at that
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time. And I think there may have been
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some pastors from outlying areas as well, North Africa, Asia
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Minor, some of those areas that they gathered together and they
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said, OK, well, what is the Bible say?
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Like what is the, as we read in Jude, what is the faith that has
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been delivered once and for all to the Saints?
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What what have we believed as the people of God?
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And uniformly they arrived at the same conclusions to say, OK,
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if you want to say that Jesus was not truly man, you're
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totally at odds with what we have believed for hundreds of
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years by that point. And if you say that Jesus either
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is not truly God or became God at some point, that he had a
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start date, if you say, as Arias falsely professed, there was a
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time when the sun was not, that is totally against what we read
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in Scripture. And so they put together these
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statements of faith like here's what we believe as the the
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churches of God. And so that's the reason for the
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creeds. I don't know if I've mentioned
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much about creeds on Tabernacle talk before.
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Some of you that grew up in like Presbyterian, Lutheran,
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Catholic, Eastern Orthodox traditions, You guys regularly
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quote the creeds even within your services.
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Read them have to learn them for catechisms and different things
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like that. Strongly recommend that but also
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like learn the truth behind the creeds so that it helps give you
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language for what you for what we believe about our God from
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Scripture. So here's what we're told about
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Jesus. We confess that our Lord Jesus
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Christ, God's Son, is both God and man equally.
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Jesus isn't, you know, an Arnold Palmer of God and man.
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He is God and man equally. He is God from the essence of
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the Father, begotten before time, and he is man from the
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essence of his mother, born in time.
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What a thought that the Eternal Son of God in the moment of
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Mary's conception within the womb of Mary, by the power of
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the Holy Spirit, the Eternal became limited for the first
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time in his life that he could not speak with his mouth.
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He didn't even have a mouth. Then at conception, he did not
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yet have hands. What an incredible thought here
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in section 32. Completely God, completely man,
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with a rational soul and human flesh.
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He's not half God, half man. He's completely God and
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completely man equal to the Father as regards divinity.
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God the Father and God the Son completely equal in their
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divinity. Jesus is not a lesser God says
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less than the Father as regards humanity actually preached
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through this first not too long ago in the Gospel of John where
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Jesus says the Father is greater than I and we'd be like, well,
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wait a second, does that mean God the Son is less than God the
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Father? No, God the Son and God the
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Father are equal. Jesus and his humanity was less
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than God the Father, to be clear about what I mean by that.
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He was subservient. He was obedient.
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There were things in Jesus's like human state that he was not
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as great as God the Father. He was completely holy.
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He was completely perfect. God the Father has never
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hungered. Jesus on earth absolutely
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hungered. God the Father never had to take
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a nap. Jesus had to sleep in the boat.
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God the Father, never, I think I'm correct in saying this,
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never wept. I believe that's correct from a
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number of theological things I'm not going to go into because
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we're way past time already. Jesus in his humanity, he wept.
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And so Jesus, in regards to his relationship with the Father in
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his humanity, He's less than in me, is not as great as mere
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humanity, although he is God and man, yet Christ is not 2.
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But one. You don't have like the two, you
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don't have two sides of Jesus's brain arguing.
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And the one is like the, you know, holy Son of God from all
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of the ages past saying something and then human Jesus
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saying something on the other side.
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No, Jesus is 1. He's one person.
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He's not conflicted in who he is.
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It says He is one, however, not by his divinity being turned
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into flesh, but by God's taking humanity to himself.
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That the eternal Son of God was within the womb of Mary and took
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on. You know that first.
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I'm sure I'll get phrasing here incorrect, but that first zygote
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and then the growing fetus there within the womb of Mary, that
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that was God himself taking on our humanity, says he is 1.
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Certainly not by the blending of His essence, but by the unity of
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His person. For just as one man is both
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rational soul and flesh, so to the one Christ is both God and
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man. He suffered for our salvation.
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He descended to Hades. He arose from the dead on the
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third day. He ascended to heaven.
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He's seated at the Father's right hand.
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From there He will come to judge the living and the dead.
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So I don't know if I answered the question all that well.
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I love this thought though, that Jesus stepped out of eternity
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into time and space, placed there, conceived by the Holy
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Spirit, not by shedding his divinity, but by taking on
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humanity. And when he did that, he became
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one that could identify with all of our hardships.
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He could take our place as our substitute.
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He could be the perfect man. That seed of the woman stomping
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the head of the serpent, that prophet that we need to listen
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to, that seed of Abraham and the seed of David who would rule,
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who would be a blessing to all of the nations.
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And He is the one that we must worship and adore, and with that
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joyous 3 in one, that though He stepped down from heaven, what
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we're told even in John 118. And I love the way that the
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Christian standard Bible translates this particular
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verse. John 118 says this.
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No one has ever seen God, the one and only Son, who is himself
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God and is at the Father's side. He has revealed him that Jesus
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for a moment was away and he was away for us.
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He was here, but His Father did not leave him alone.
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That's what I just preached on this past Sunday in John 16,
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that Jesus betrayed and abandoned by all of his earthly
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followers, yet He was not alone because the Father was with him.
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And so I, I just rejoice in this wonderful truth.
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I hope it's an encouragement to you.
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If you have any questions, please let me know, especially
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on an episode that's like this dance and this chock full of
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information. I would love to explain
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anything. Maybe you can give me a call or
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something, or we can meet up for a meal or for coffee if that's a
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more helpful venue than trying to do things via Tabernacle
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Talk. As far as our next book of
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scripture that we're going to be walking through, I believe
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Monday we're going to be walking through Isaiah together.
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Isaiah is a wonderful treasure trove.
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It's one of the most quoted books in the New Testament, and
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so it has much to say about the root of David, the Messiah, the
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suffering servant, the coming king who would rule.
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And so we're going to look together at how Isaiah points us
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to Jesus and what we can learn even living within a nation that
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professes to know God somewhat looking at ancient Israel and
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how they needed the prophets for how they interacted with the
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Lord as well. Thanks for tuning in.
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Hope you have a wonderful day.