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- 0:29Speaker 1: Is chuck in the morning why do you people are
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- 0:34Speaker 2: Game on.
- 0:48Speaker 1: Hey, look who's back. Look who's here. Oh, that's me.
- 0:52Speaker 1: That's me. It's Ashley Ryan. I made it. Yeah, she
- 0:56Speaker 1: made it back from her vacation in Hawaii. It was
- 0:59Speaker 1: touch and go there for a little while. It was.
- 1:01Speaker 1: We didn't know if we'd ever see you again.
- 1:03Speaker 2: Well, it wouldn't have been because I wasn't ready to
- 1:06Speaker 2: come home, I'll tell you that much.
- 1:07Speaker 1: Oh, is that right? Not because the trip was bad,
- 1:10Speaker 1: just because the return.
- 1:11Speaker 2: Was a nightmare.
- 1:12Speaker 4: You know you get to the end of your trip
- 1:14Speaker 4: and you're like, okay, I had a great time.
- 1:16Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:16Speaker 2: I accomplished everything I wanted to accomplish.
- 1:19Speaker 3: Oh, good.
- 1:19Speaker 2: Had a great time with my friends.
- 1:21Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:21Speaker 2: Had a great time with my family.
- 1:22Speaker 1: Hung out with Don Ho. Yeah, we were like best friends.
- 1:25Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:26Speaker 1: Isn't he dead? Yeah. I'm not sure. Me neither. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Probably should have asked while you were there. I think
- 1:30Speaker 1: the locals would know. I should have asked. I should
- 1:32Speaker 1: have asked.
- 1:33Speaker 2: And it was like, it was relaxing. It was, we
- 1:36Speaker 2: went to the beach. We went to the pool. I mean, we,
- 1:38Speaker 2: you know, we just, we had one rainy day. We
- 1:41Speaker 2: went shopping. We got everything done. Went to a nice
- 1:44Speaker 2: dinner at Sunset.
- 1:46Speaker 4: Oh, nice.
- 1:46Speaker 2: And then on the last day, we were like, all right, kids,
- 1:48Speaker 2: it's our last day at the pool. We're going to
- 1:50Speaker 2: live it up. We stayed at the pool, had happy
- 1:52Speaker 2: hour at the pool, stayed until about 6 o'clock, showered,
- 1:55Speaker 2: had leftovers, cleaned out the fridges.
- 1:57Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:58Speaker 1: And then the next morning, we woke up. Met Sarah Marshall.
- 2:01Speaker 2: Yes, and then I forgot her.
- 2:04Speaker 4: And then the next morning, we wake up, and I'm like,
- 2:07Speaker 4: all right, I'm going to start packing. Then I'm going
- 2:09Speaker 4: to go for a walk before we have to leave
- 2:11Speaker 4: because our flight didn't leave until 1245. And I thought,
- 2:14Speaker 4: I'm going to go for a walk after I'm packed,
- 2:16Speaker 4: and then I'll get that in, too.
- 2:18Speaker 1: And we'll head out. Yeah. Just head out. Easy as
- 2:22Speaker 1: can be. Yeah. What could possibly go wrong?
- 2:25Speaker 5: Nothing.
- 2:25Speaker 2: As we're packing.
- 2:26Speaker 1: Not one thing.
- 2:27Speaker 2: Flight's delayed five hours.
- 2:29Speaker 4: Oh!
- 2:29Speaker 5: Okay.
- 2:30Speaker 2: Well, that certainly puts a different twist on the day.
- 2:34Speaker 1: You know what? You could, with five hours in an airport,
- 2:38Speaker 1: you could watch... Nearly two baseball games now that we
- 2:42Speaker 1: have a pitch clock in that time. So that's a
- 2:44Speaker 1: good way to kill. Or half a college football game.
- 2:47Speaker 4: See, so those are the things that I was thinking
- 2:49Speaker 4: as well. Luckily, we weren't at the airport yet.
- 2:51Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
- 2:52Speaker 4: So we were still at the hotel. So we moved
- 2:54Speaker 4: everything to one room, hung out at the pool again. Oh.
- 2:57Speaker 2: And we thought, all right, well, we're going to leave
- 2:59Speaker 2: at this time. We got to get to the flight.
- 3:01Speaker 1: Oh, joking.
- 3:03Speaker 2: Flight's delayed an hour.
- 3:04Speaker 3: Okay.
- 3:04Speaker 1: Okay.
- 3:05Speaker 2: So now we got another hour. Flight's delayed a half
- 3:07Speaker 2: an hour. Okay, we got another half an hour.
- 3:09Speaker 4: Now we're really going to the airport. And boy, when
- 3:12Speaker 4: we get there, that flight better not be delayed again.
- 3:14Speaker 2: And all was going well.
- 3:17Speaker 4: We had our dinner, early dinner in the airport. We
- 3:20Speaker 4: get to the gate and they say, okay, we're going
- 3:22Speaker 4: to start boarding soon. And then the next announcement is
- 3:27Speaker 4: we apologize.
- 3:28Speaker 2: There is a mechanical issue. The flight will be delayed
- 3:30Speaker 2: two hours.
- 3:31Speaker 5: Oh.
- 3:32Speaker 2: And everyone almost lost their minds.
- 3:35Speaker 4: Oh.
- 3:35Speaker 2: So then we go.
- 3:36Speaker 4: Now we get a new voucher for more food or drinks.
- 3:39Speaker 4: So we go back to the restaurant. And this time
- 3:41Speaker 4: it's just a glass of wine because it was like,
- 3:43Speaker 4: all right, let's just go hang out and sip a
- 3:46Speaker 4: glass of wine for two hours. We'll get back on
- 3:48Speaker 4: this plane. Even though we were all thinking like, are
- 3:51Speaker 4: we going to leave in two hours? Sure enough, we
- 3:53Speaker 4: are not. Half an hour later, flight's canceled.
- 3:56Speaker 1: Oh, gosh.
- 3:57Speaker 3: So.
- 3:58Speaker 2: Then we went to the Hilton Garden Inn, four miles
- 4:00Speaker 2: away from the airport. Had a pool night.
- 4:02Speaker 1: Well, at least you're making the most of it. At
- 4:05Speaker 1: least you're not sleeping on an airport floor.
- 4:07Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. We scrambled. Everybody figured it out.
- 4:14Speaker 4: They were trying to put us on a flight through Oahu,
- 4:17Speaker 4: but that was going to leave in 27 minutes. And
- 4:19Speaker 4: I don't know if you know this, but you cannot
- 4:20Speaker 4: check a bag onto a flight that close to the
- 4:23Speaker 4: flight and it was all the way at the end
- 4:25Speaker 4: of the airport we're like we can't do that so
- 4:26Speaker 4: we book a flight for 6 a.m the next morning
- 4:28Speaker 4: we're like all right we're gonna be home by 2
- 4:31Speaker 4: 20 minutes later flight's delayed three hours.
- 4:34Speaker 1: Oh my gosh uh yeah there are a few things
- 4:39Speaker 1: i mean that i hate more that aren't criminal like
- 4:42Speaker 1: obviously i'm gonna go ahead and say mass murder yeah
- 4:46Speaker 1: or just murder in general i'm gonna put that i'm
- 4:48Speaker 1: gonna put that a higher on the list Uh, but, uh,
- 4:52Speaker 1: in terms of non-criminal things, inconvenience might be the thing
- 4:56Speaker 1: I hate most in life. And there is nothing more
- 4:59Speaker 1: inconvenient than what you went through.
- 5:01Speaker 4: It was well, and then you've got three kids and
- 5:04Speaker 4: they're all tired and they.
- 5:05Speaker 1: Had two more kids since last I saw you. Oh
- 5:08Speaker 1: my gosh. Holy cow. Hawaii's magical. They were our friends. Kids. Oh, okay.
- 5:14Speaker 2: And they're all tired.
- 5:15Speaker 4: But then once they knew, okay, now we can just
- 5:17Speaker 4: leave and go to a pool at the hotel, we're fine.
- 5:19Speaker 4: But it was like sitting around the airport. And the
- 5:22Speaker 4: airports in Hawaii are very small. It's not like you've
- 5:24Speaker 4: got just a lot of space to roam around and
- 5:26Speaker 4: check things out.
- 5:27Speaker 2: And in the restaurants, it's air-conditioned. But in the.
- 5:30Speaker 4: Concourses, it's open air, so you're hot. And everybody was
- 5:33Speaker 4: just tired at that point. And, yeah, we were all holding.
- 5:37Speaker 1: Our breath when we got to the airport yesterday.
- 5:39Speaker 4: Like, I swear if someone comes on here and tells
- 5:42Speaker 4: us this flight is delayed— Oh, I.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Don't even this is ruining my love for drinking at
- 5:49Speaker 1: the pool. Yeah.
- 5:51Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 5:51Speaker 2: I'm never doing that again.
- 5:53Speaker 1: But I'm leaving a really bad taste in my mouth.
- 5:55Speaker 4: I will say the crazy or the most interesting part
- 5:58Speaker 4: of the whole thing was when we got on the
- 6:00Speaker 4: flight yesterday, they explained to us what had happened the
- 6:02Speaker 4: entire day before, which a lot of people don't do.
- 6:05Speaker 2: That's not their responsibility.
- 6:07Speaker 1: Right.
- 6:07Speaker 2: And they said, so the flight was.
- 6:09Speaker 4: Leaving San Diego, had a mechanical issue over the ocean,
- 6:12Speaker 4: turned around. had to go to San Francisco, had to
- 6:16Speaker 4: stop there, have maintenance done on it. By the time
- 6:18Speaker 4: they got back in the air, they were coming in,
- 6:21Speaker 4: landed in Luhui, and blew two tires.
- 6:24Speaker 2: Oh, so then they had to replace those.
- 6:25Speaker 1: I don't know how good I'm feeling about their planes
- 6:28Speaker 1: to begin with at this point.
- 6:29Speaker 2: Well, but they all landed safely.
- 6:31Speaker 4: And so that's why they had to fix the two
- 6:33Speaker 4: tires when the plane landed here or in Hawaii. And
- 6:36Speaker 4: then they realized, oh, if we leave at this new
- 6:40Speaker 4: two hour time limit, our crew is going to time
- 6:43Speaker 4: out over the ocean.
- 6:44Speaker 2: We can't do that. So that's why I can't say.
- 6:47Speaker 1: Well, if you can, I provide a silver lining for you. Yeah,
- 6:50Speaker 1: I'm good.
- 6:50Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 6:51Speaker 1: Um, If you think you had it bad, Don Ho's
- 6:55Speaker 1: been dead for 19 years. Okay.
- 6:57Speaker 2: So he has had it worse. Although, you know what?
- 7:01Speaker 1: What Don Ho wouldn't do to have his flight delayed
- 7:04Speaker 1: right now. That's true.
- 7:05Speaker 4: But is it bad, though, when you are such a
- 7:08Speaker 4: Hawaiian icon that people don't know if you're alive or
- 7:11Speaker 4: dead anymore because your legend just lives on?
- 7:13Speaker 1: I think that's it. I think that's it. I think
- 7:15Speaker 1: that it's not insulting that I didn't know that Don
- 7:18Speaker 1: Ho had passed away. I think it's just I still
- 7:20Speaker 1: to this day think of him. Yep. When I think
- 7:23Speaker 1: of famous Hawaiians.
- 7:25Speaker 2: That's right.
- 7:25Speaker 1: Yeah. Him and Jack Lord. Y5O. That's about it.
- 7:29Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say Jack Johnson.
- 7:32Speaker 3: No.
- 7:32Speaker 1: Well, Jack Johnson could come to mind as well. Yeah. Well,
- 7:36Speaker 1: hopefully the travel did not ruin your experience. I mean,
- 7:42Speaker 1: it looks like your hair is lighter. Yep. I don't
- 7:45Speaker 1: know if the YouTube people are picking up on this,
- 7:47Speaker 1: but you do have the lights on in your studio,
- 7:49Speaker 1: so I'm assuming you've got a little bit of a tan.
- 7:51Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
- 7:52Speaker 1: No, I'm quite tan.
- 7:53Speaker 6: Okay.
- 7:53Speaker 4: But.
- 7:54Speaker 2: I don't think it'll show up on YouTube. I'll look
- 7:56Speaker 2: like it's the dead of winter.
- 7:57Speaker 1: I mean, the whole idea of doing this sort of thing,
- 7:59Speaker 1: I would imagine that you didn't just spend your whole
- 8:01Speaker 1: time touring to try to see every monument, every experience
- 8:07Speaker 1: that there is, every theme park. I would imagine you
- 8:11Speaker 1: went there like an adult and you did... relaxing while
- 8:14Speaker 1: you were there? So do you feel relaxed as you return?
- 8:18Speaker 5: I do.
- 8:19Speaker 4: Which is surprising even despite the fact that I gave
- 8:23Speaker 4: myself an extra day to come home and acclimate and
- 8:25Speaker 4: get everything sorted out and relax yesterday and missed all that.
- 8:29Speaker 2: We got home at 7.15 last night.
- 8:32Speaker 1: Oh, gosh.
- 8:33Speaker 4: So there goes that whole day of trying to acclimate.
- 8:37Speaker 1: On one hand, good strategy because at least you did
- 8:39Speaker 1: give yourself the buffer. On the other hand, you didn't
- 8:42Speaker 1: get to use that buffer the way you wanted to
- 8:43Speaker 1: use it.
- 8:44Speaker 5: Right.
- 8:44Speaker 4: But at least I wasn't panicking like, oh, my gosh,
- 8:46Speaker 4: can someone fill in for me and all that and
- 8:48Speaker 4: worrying about that. So that part, there was no stress
- 8:51Speaker 4: involved at all. It was just, all right, I was
- 8:54Speaker 4: ready to go home now. I didn't ruin a thing.
- 8:56Speaker 2: It was great. Relaxed a lot. Read two and a
- 8:58Speaker 2: half books.
- 8:59Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
- 9:00Speaker 1: Walked every day. Good, good.
- 9:02Speaker 2: Worked out every day.
- 9:03Speaker 1: And you got back just in time because I had
- 9:05Speaker 1: gotten to the point where I truly, at this stage
- 9:08Speaker 1: of my life, hate Anders.
- 9:09Speaker 4: Well, I was going to say kudos to you because
- 9:12Speaker 4: I saw all the emails that came every day after
- 9:14Speaker 4: the show, and they were all from Anders.
- 9:16Speaker 1: And I thought, oh, poor Chuck. Yeah, I suffered. That
- 9:19Speaker 1: guy is. I suffered greatly.
- 9:20Speaker 2: That guy is really having to take one for the team.
- 9:22Speaker 1: Yeah, and I have so much more respect now for Ian. Wow. Because,
- 9:27Speaker 1: my God.
- 9:29Speaker 2: I mean, that's not saying a lot, because you didn't
- 9:30Speaker 2: have a lot of respect for Ian before.
- 9:32Speaker 1: True, true.
- 9:32Speaker 2: But now you at least have some.
- 9:33Speaker 1: Yeah, I have. That's true. I now register with some
- 9:37Speaker 1: level of respect now for Ian, because... That's awesome.
- 9:39Speaker 4: Woo-hoo!
- 9:41Speaker 1: That is a pain in the ass, that one.
- 9:45Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 9:45Speaker 2: And he probably thought he knew a lot.
- 9:48Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
- 9:49Speaker 1: Know it all.
- 9:50Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 9:50Speaker 1: I'm Anders. I'm young and smart.
- 9:53Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 9:54Speaker 3: Well.
- 9:56Speaker 1: Anyway, good morning to you all. Ashley. is back, and
- 10:01Speaker 1: we do have to discuss something baseball-related, because while you
- 10:06Speaker 1: were away, Cal Raleigh fixed his swing, or so we thought.
- 10:11Speaker 1: And then just, you know, you're the person that introduces
- 10:15Speaker 1: this element to the show. I know. And you knew
- 10:17Speaker 1: we were going to talk about this, but it created
- 10:20Speaker 1: a whole new level yesterday because now I don't know
- 10:24Speaker 1: what role I played in this because I have not
- 10:26Speaker 1: been to a game in a while.
- 10:29Speaker 5: All right.
- 10:29Speaker 6: Okay.
- 10:30Speaker 1: And so you are in Hawaii. Cal finds a swing.
- 10:35Speaker 1: Cal finds a swing on the verge of you coming back.
- 10:39Speaker 1: I go to my first game in a while, and
- 10:44Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Cal flips to the right side
- 10:47Speaker 1: of the plate against Jesus Lizardo, and he looks more
- 10:50Speaker 1: broken than ever. That swing looked terrible yesterday. So I
- 10:55Speaker 1: don't know if he's just fixed the left-handed swing and
- 10:59Speaker 1: the right-handed swing, which I thought had looked better than
- 11:03Speaker 1: the left-handed swing, is still broken, or if he's like,
- 11:08Speaker 1: He made some sort of monkey paw deal like, okay,
- 11:12Speaker 1: voodoo guy, fix my left-handed swing and then you can
- 11:16Speaker 1: destroy my right-handed swing. I don't know if he had
- 11:20Speaker 1: to take from one to hurt one to help the other.
- 11:24Speaker 5: Maybe.
- 11:25Speaker 1: If he made some sort of deal with the devil
- 11:27Speaker 1: kind of thing there. If you will just fix one
- 11:30Speaker 1: side of my... you know, swinging. Um, so I don't
- 11:34Speaker 1: know if this is a voodoo hex, if you're to blame,
- 11:38Speaker 1: if he just felt that you were returning, uh, to
- 11:41Speaker 1: the mainland, um, or if I showed up at the
- 11:46Speaker 1: ballpark and ruined his juju, but you're the one that
- 11:50Speaker 1: introduced this element into our show. You're the superstitious one.
- 11:54Speaker 1: So how are, how are you reading it as you
- 11:56Speaker 1: were finally flying back from Hawaii and 20 years removed
- 12:02Speaker 1: from Don Ho's death. And you're contemplating what was my
- 12:09Speaker 1: role in Cal Raleigh suddenly getting hot again and now
- 12:12Speaker 1: cooling off while I'm in midair and not knowing, because
- 12:18Speaker 1: I'm just introducing this element, that I was at the
- 12:21Speaker 1: game for the first time in a while. Who are
- 12:23Speaker 1: you blaming? How do you slice up this blame pie?
- 12:27Speaker 1: What is your conclusion about how you affected Cal Raleigh
- 12:31Speaker 1: with your lack of presence and then your return.
- 12:34Speaker 4: Well, here's my thought is first off, I was supposed
- 12:36Speaker 4: to be back on Tuesday and his swing was fine
- 12:39Speaker 4: on Tuesday. Right.
- 12:41Speaker 2: So he didn't know my flight was delayed.
- 12:43Speaker 1: He might have, he might have, he might have, um,
- 12:45Speaker 1: his swing might've said.
- 12:46Speaker 2: It might've, but I, I don't want to.
- 12:51Speaker 1: Do this, but you have to move to Hawaii.
- 12:54Speaker 2: No, I definitely don't want to do that.
- 12:56Speaker 1: I love Hawaii.
- 12:57Speaker 2: Couldn't live there. Um, my hair would be a mess. Um,
- 13:02Speaker 2: It's Anders' kid's fault.
- 13:04Speaker 1: It's Anders' kid's fault.
- 13:05Speaker 2: It was his first game ever. First game ever. How
- 13:11Speaker 2: else do you explain it?
- 13:12Speaker 1: Oh, man. I have been wanting to blame that child
- 13:16Speaker 1: for something for a long time.
- 13:18Speaker 2: You have been to games.
- 13:19Speaker 1: For years.
- 13:19Speaker 2: You have been to games before.
- 13:20Speaker 1: I have been to games before.
- 13:21Speaker 2: And you have seen Cal do well.
- 13:22Speaker 5: Yes.
- 13:23Speaker 1: Yes. Has Austin? No.
- 13:27Speaker 4: See?
- 13:27Speaker 5: No.
- 13:28Speaker 1: So.
- 13:29Speaker 1: That baby's only, what, six months old, and I've been
- 13:32Speaker 1: wanting to blame it for something for years. For years
- 13:34Speaker 1: and years. Yeah, and now here we have our chance.
- 13:37Speaker 4: Because I was still closer to Hawaii at the time
- 13:40Speaker 4: that this all was happening. I was watching it on
- 13:42Speaker 4: the plane, and then I turned it off. So, sorry,
- 13:45Speaker 4: I can't take the blame for this one.
- 13:47Speaker 1: Okay, interesting.
- 13:48Speaker 2: And I even thought about, like.
- 13:49Speaker 1: The whole— I thought you were going to wear some
- 13:51Speaker 1: of this. And you have just decided not only to
- 13:54Speaker 1: pass the buck, you're going to lie it into the
- 13:57Speaker 1: chubby lap of someone that cannot even defend himself. Yeah,
- 14:01Speaker 1: to an infant.
- 14:02Speaker 5: Right.
- 14:02Speaker 4: So maybe it's more Anders' fault, I guess, for taking him,
- 14:05Speaker 4: but I think, you know— And that's fine. Palmer went,
- 14:08Speaker 4: you know, her first game. I'm pretty sure the Mariners
- 14:09Speaker 4: lost it. I blame it on her.
- 14:10Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely.
- 14:12Speaker 3: Absolutely.
- 14:13Speaker 2: It happens.
- 14:13Speaker 4: Kids got to wear it sometimes. I even like looked through,
- 14:16Speaker 4: you know, we watched the Mariners games while we were there.
- 14:18Speaker 4: And I even thought like, Mariners didn't lose 22 to
- 14:22Speaker 4: nothing or 19 to two when I was in Seattle. Oh,
- 14:26Speaker 4: so those, so I can't even, I can't even be
- 14:28Speaker 4: responsible for all that.
- 14:30Speaker 1: Well, I will tell you this. The team played a
- 14:32Speaker 1: lot better when you weren't here.
- 14:33Speaker 7: Yeah, they did.
- 14:33Speaker 1: I'm just saying that.
- 14:34Speaker 2: I'm just trying to come up with the reasons why
- 14:36Speaker 2: I should be allowed to stay.
- 14:37Speaker 1: Yeah, and Cal did fix the swing. I know, I know.
- 14:40Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard. He had four home
- 14:42Speaker 1: runs and four straight at bats.
- 14:44Speaker 2: We watched.
- 14:44Speaker 4: So, yeah, I just was prepared for this, and I
- 14:47Speaker 4: had to come up with reasons as to why I
- 14:49Speaker 4: can't be blamed and don't have to go back on vacation.
- 14:52Speaker 1: I think it's real grown up of you. I think
- 14:54Speaker 1: that for you to have taken the time to have,
- 14:59Speaker 1: created a reason why it wasn't you and to blame
- 15:03Speaker 1: it on some infant. Yeah. I think that's a real
- 15:07Speaker 1: sign of maturity.
- 15:08Speaker 2: Thank you. That's what I think, too. It's about owning things.
- 15:12Speaker 1: Because mature people reason things out to try and figure
- 15:16Speaker 1: out how it's not on them. Right. That's what mature
- 15:19Speaker 1: people do.
- 15:20Speaker 4: And if I had come to the reasoning that it
- 15:23Speaker 4: was me, I'd own it. I've taken that blame before.
- 15:27Speaker 4: I've offered to stay in Mexico before.
- 15:29Speaker 1: That is true. Actually, this happens a lot, doesn't it?
- 15:33Speaker 1: It does.
- 15:34Speaker 2: Every time I go on vacation.
- 15:36Speaker 1: Now that I think about it.
- 15:37Speaker 2: Mariners do really well when I leave.
- 15:39Speaker 1: But it also happened with minting, too, didn't it? Didn't
- 15:42Speaker 1: Angie leave in the middle of the season one time
- 15:44Speaker 1: and they went on a... 42-game winning streak, and then
- 15:48Speaker 1: she came back and they failed miserably for the rest
- 15:52Speaker 1: of the season.
- 15:53Speaker 2: Something like that.
- 15:54Speaker 1: Something in the neighborhood of that. Yeah.
- 15:57Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 15:57Speaker 1: See, so it's... Women. Women in the Seattle media. Women
- 16:01Speaker 1: are always the problem.
- 16:03Speaker 2: Women and infants. Blame it on the women and the babies.
- 16:06Speaker 1: I'm going to check your track record, McIntyre. That's right.
- 16:09Speaker 1: Don't think I'm not doing that during the break. That's right.
- 16:11Speaker 2: We should actually go back and look at our schedule.
- 16:16Speaker 1: Well, anyway, you did miss a lot. It's been interesting,
- 16:20Speaker 1: to say the least. And it looks like we're back
- 16:23Speaker 1: in a playoff race at this point. So, you know,
- 16:27Speaker 1: you get to hit the ground running. Yeah, like that. Yeah.
- 16:29Speaker 4: Didn't the Rangers and the Astros lose yesterday?
- 16:31Speaker 1: Yes, they did. Yes, they did. And so there's a
- 16:35Speaker 1: chance by tomorrow. You're just two games back in the division. So, yeah.
- 16:41Speaker 1: So welcome back. We're back in a race.
- 16:43Speaker 2: Yay.
- 16:43Speaker 1: Since you've been gone, we got back into a playoff race.
- 16:46Speaker 1: All right. Despite the fact that we still have a
- 16:48Speaker 1: really crappy record. All right. Well, Ashley is back. um
- 16:54Speaker 1: austin hurst has been blamed uh all is right with
- 16:58Speaker 1: the world and uh we've got a lot to discuss
- 17:01Speaker 1: today let's find out what's on tap.
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- 17:19Speaker 1: Breaking news here to start what's on tap. Don Ho
- 17:23Speaker 1: is dead.
- 17:25Speaker 4: I just tried to take a sip of something and
- 17:26Speaker 4: almost spit that everywhere, all over the board.
- 17:29Speaker 6: Yes, yes.
- 17:30Speaker 1: Breaking news as of 19 years ago. Happened April 14, 2007,
- 17:34Speaker 1: but I am just learning this today. Me too. So
- 17:37Speaker 1: that counts as breaking news on KJR.
- 17:41Speaker 6: Oh, man.
- 17:42Speaker 5: Wow.
- 17:43Speaker 2: I should have played the sounder.
- 17:44Speaker 1: Phillies won over the Mariners yesterday, 6-0 in the final score.
- 17:48Speaker 1: Just sort of an ugly game from the outset. The
- 17:51Speaker 1: team only had two hits in the contest. Brian Woo.
- 17:54Speaker 1: had given up six runs within the first two innings
- 17:57Speaker 1: in his return to the starting rotation. We'll cover all
- 18:01Speaker 1: the details in Mariners Morning After coming up at 6.30.
- 18:05Speaker 1: The Mariners do have a day off today before they
- 18:07Speaker 1: start a series in Toronto. And so at 64-70 on
- 18:11Speaker 1: the season, believe it or not, they are very much
- 18:14Speaker 1: alive in the American League West race, even the wild card,
- 18:17Speaker 1: even though they lost a game yesterday in the wild card.
- 18:20Speaker 1: Toronto actually now has is ahead of us, uh, in
- 18:23Speaker 1: the wild card standings right now. Uh, but two and
- 18:26Speaker 1: a half games back in the American league West, because
- 18:28Speaker 1: as Ashley mentioned, the Rangers and the Astros both lost yesterday. Um,
- 18:33Speaker 1: and only one of those two teams will play tonight.
- 18:36Speaker 1: That's the Astros. They'll be in New York against the
- 18:38Speaker 1: Yankees who will be favored certainly, uh, in this game.
- 18:42Speaker 1: So pretty decent chance that when we wake up tomorrow,
- 18:45Speaker 1: when the Mariners start their series against the blue Jays
- 18:47Speaker 1: in Canada, that we're looking at just a two-game deficit
- 18:53Speaker 1: in the American League West, which is very easy to overcome.
- 18:56Speaker 1: That can be overcome in a weekend.
- 18:57Speaker 2: Yes, it can.
- 18:58Speaker 1: For goodness sake. And so, you know, it is a
- 19:01Speaker 1: loss yesterday. It was a reminder that, no, we're not
- 19:05Speaker 1: a complete team.
- 19:06Speaker 2: We don't want a sweep series.
- 19:08Speaker 4: Right.
- 19:08Speaker 5: Right.
- 19:09Speaker 1: But certainly still very much alive. So we'll talk about that.
- 19:14Speaker 1: Also want to mention this. I want to mention it now.
- 19:17Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out how to weave it
- 19:20Speaker 1: into the very opening conversation that we had today, but
- 19:23Speaker 1: we didn't get there, which is fine. We've got four
- 19:26Speaker 1: hours to discuss this. But I woke up to news
- 19:29Speaker 1: this morning that overnight the Cincinnati Reds Because we are
- 19:34Speaker 1: now to waiver season at the end of August. We
- 19:37Speaker 1: can't make trade deadline moves anymore. There's not a second
- 19:40Speaker 1: trade deadline. But what you are seeing are eliminated teams
- 19:44Speaker 1: who are deciding, why do I want to pay a
- 19:47Speaker 1: high-priced player money the rest of the season? of the
- 19:50Speaker 1: way when we're kind of trying to lose? Like when
- 19:53Speaker 1: we're trying to kind of think till next year. Well,
- 19:55Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Reds last night waived two players. One, not
- 20:00Speaker 1: that interesting to you, TJ Friedel, even though certainly you
- 20:05Speaker 1: got to think about that if you're the Mariners. The
- 20:07Speaker 1: other one, Eugenio Suarez.
- 20:12Speaker 2: Good vibes only.
- 20:14Speaker 1: I mean, you have to think about it. You have
- 20:17Speaker 1: to consider this.
- 20:18Speaker 2: You have to more than think about it.
- 20:20Speaker 1: We don't have a third baseman right now. We're still
- 20:21Speaker 1: playing Weston Wilson over there.
- 20:24Speaker 2: You better be thinking hard about it.
- 20:26Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. Maybe you do it to
- 20:29Speaker 1: him twice. They say once bitten, twice shy. He's been
- 20:32Speaker 1: twice bitten where he wasn't brought back when he was
- 20:36Speaker 1: beloved and wanted back. Maybe he wouldn't even want to
- 20:40Speaker 1: come back. I don't know. But you've got to consider it.
- 20:45Speaker 1: There's no doubt. I mean, we have a need. He's
- 20:50Speaker 1: kind of magical when he puts on that Mariner uniform.
- 20:54Speaker 1: The guys in the clubhouse still adore him. So something
- 20:57Speaker 1: we'll talk about a little bit later on in the show. Seahawks,
- 21:00Speaker 1: it's official now. They have new owners. So the Kosla
- 21:03Speaker 1: family takes over yesterday. We got to hear them in
- 21:06Speaker 1: a press conference. We'll actually hear from them later on
- 21:08Speaker 1: in the show. Greg Bell will join us at 7.05
- 21:11Speaker 1: to talk about them and the Seahawks' final preseason game
- 21:14Speaker 1: of the year, which will be tomorrow. It is tomorrow.
- 21:17Speaker 1: We will be done with preseason football tomorrow here in Seattle.
- 21:21Speaker 1: They take on the Kansas City Chiefs in Kansas City.
- 21:25Speaker 1: The Apple Cup, believe it or not, is in 10 days.
- 21:28Speaker 2: That is crazy. We were listening to Softy yesterday, and
- 21:31Speaker 2: he said, a week from Sunday, and.
- 21:32Speaker 3: I went, what? Yeah.
- 21:34Speaker 1: Can you believe it?
- 21:34Speaker 5: Can't.
- 21:35Speaker 1: Yeah, 10 days. So we'll talk a little college football today,
- 21:38Speaker 1: talk about some of Jed Fish. Jed Fish, I mean,
- 21:41Speaker 1: just a week ago, I'm doing shows with Huskies, and
- 21:44Speaker 1: I got Ryan Walters saying, there is no depth chart.
- 21:47Speaker 1: And Jed Fish, pretty much with the fellas last night, said,
- 21:50Speaker 1: it's all settled. Here are our starters. So we'll talk
- 21:53Speaker 1: about the Huskies a little bit later on in the
- 21:55Speaker 1: show and hear from Jed as well. Sounders and Chicago
- 21:59Speaker 1: will play on Saturday. Of course, the Sounders pulled off
- 22:02Speaker 1: a mega trade. during the course of the week, and
- 22:05Speaker 1: it's worthy of having Jackson Feltz jump on the show
- 22:09Speaker 1: with us today at 9.30 to talk about kind of
- 22:13Speaker 1: the strange timing of it. I mean, soccer's weird. I
- 22:17Speaker 1: don't quite understand it. And so usually when you're in
- 22:21Speaker 1: the midst of like a nine-game haven't-won streak, you don't
- 22:26Speaker 1: usually make big trades to add pieces, but Sounders have,
- 22:31Speaker 1: so we'll get to the bottom of that with Jackson
- 22:33Speaker 1: coming up today at 9.30. And, of course, we've got
- 22:37Speaker 1: ABCs and so much more coming your way. But Mariner's
- 22:41Speaker 1: Morning After is next. Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM. Marsh in
- 22:57Speaker 1: left field. Right there. That's the ball game. Mariners get
- 23:00Speaker 1: shut out 6-0 by Philadelphia. But a tremendous homestand series
- 23:04Speaker 1: wins against the Cubs and the Phillies before off day tomorrow.
- 23:08Speaker 1: So that's how it ends today.
- 23:09Speaker 5: The Mariners have.
- 23:10Speaker 1: A 4-2 stand and now go on the road for
- 23:13Speaker 1: a big trip. Toronto and Boston straight ahead. Boston's not
- 23:20Speaker 1: as hot as they've been. Thank goodness.
- 23:23Speaker 2: Let's hope they stay that way.
- 23:24Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Great morning to you. It's good to have
- 23:27Speaker 1: you with us. Second hour of our Thursday edition of
- 23:30Speaker 1: the radio program. Ashley Ryan is back from Hawaii, for
- 23:34Speaker 1: those wondering. Yes, her hair looks lighter from the tropical sun.
- 23:39Speaker 1: Her skin looks healthier from a steady diet of poi. Poi.
- 23:46Speaker 2: I didn't eat any poi on that trip.
- 23:47Speaker 1: Oh, you didn't? Not a single? I ate poke. Oh, really?
- 23:50Speaker 1: And french fries. Ah, okay. Did they do the poke
- 23:53Speaker 1: with the mayonnaise? I mean, you can get it without
- 23:56Speaker 1: the mayonnaise.
- 23:56Speaker 2: I didn't get it with the mayonnaise, yeah. Good choice
- 23:58Speaker 2: on your part. Just regular poke.
- 24:00Speaker 1: Okay.
- 24:01Speaker 4: And then the pool or the restaurant at the hotel
- 24:03Speaker 4: had like the best french fries ever.
- 24:05Speaker 1: Oh.
- 24:05Speaker 2: That's basically all we ate for lunch.
- 24:08Speaker 5: Oh.
- 24:09Speaker 1: You got a pineapple glow about you, too. Did you
- 24:11Speaker 1: take in some pineapple?
- 24:13Speaker 2: I did eat some pineapple.
- 24:14Speaker 1: Okay, well, I knew it.
- 24:15Speaker 2: I didn't know if you'd be able to tell.
- 24:18Speaker 1: I knew I picked up on that.
- 24:20Speaker 5: Oh, man.
- 24:21Speaker 1: Mariners TV with the call there, Aaron, describing the action
- 24:26Speaker 1: of a blowout loss to the Philadelphia Phillies, 6-0. It is,
- 24:30Speaker 1: I mean, since you've been gone, Ashley, I'm in love
- 24:36Speaker 1: for the first time.
- 24:37Speaker 2: I was thinking, how Kelly Clarkson are we going to
- 24:40Speaker 2: get here?
- 24:41Speaker 1: Since you've been gone, we have won this. more consistently
- 24:45Speaker 1: as a baseball team, but when we lose, we lose spectacularly.
- 24:48Speaker 2: It has been incredible.
- 24:50Speaker 1: Right, and so there's no doubt that it crossed everybody's mind.
- 24:54Speaker 1: It's 6-0 in the second inning. Please, not another 20-1 final.
- 25:02Speaker 1: It ended up 6-0. Nobody scored the rest of the
- 25:05Speaker 1: way yesterday, so the Phillies do avoid getting swept by
- 25:09Speaker 1: the hometown baseball team. Brian Wu, Gave up those six
- 25:13Speaker 1: runs in the first two innings. Lasted only four. And
- 25:17Speaker 1: the Mariners amassed just two hits the entire game against
- 25:21Speaker 1: Jesus Lozardo and company. And so the M's failed to
- 25:24Speaker 1: pull off the sweep, but they have won back-to-back series
- 25:27Speaker 1: against two of the best teams in Major League Baseball.
- 25:29Speaker 1: That is progress. As a matter of fact, chance for
- 25:32Speaker 1: them to wake up tomorrow morning just two games back
- 25:34Speaker 1: in the American League West. The Astros and Rangers lost yesterday.
- 25:39Speaker 1: and the Astros the only team of the three playing
- 25:42Speaker 1: today in New York against the Yankees, Garrett Cole versus
- 25:46Speaker 1: Hayden Wesneski. And so the M's could gain a half
- 25:49Speaker 1: game in the American League West standings by tomorrow, and
- 25:52Speaker 1: we still have a full month of baseball remaining. More
- 25:56Speaker 1: on the Mariners with ABC's of the M's coming up
- 25:58Speaker 1: at 7.30 today. The Apple Cup is in 10 days.
- 25:59Speaker 1: Jed Fish.
- 26:03Speaker 1: Admitted yesterday, I'm nervous as heck. I guess he gets
- 26:06Speaker 1: nervous as heck for every single ball game that he's
- 26:09Speaker 1: ever played. But the Apple Cup will be next Sunday
- 26:13Speaker 1: in just 10 days. The college football season getting ready
- 26:17Speaker 1: for week zero as we're very close to lighting this firecracker.
- 26:23Speaker 1: Sounders will be in action against Chicago on Saturday. They
- 26:27Speaker 1: pulled off a trade earlier this week. We'll talk to
- 26:29Speaker 1: Jackson Feltz about that today at 9.30 p.m. And the
- 26:32Speaker 1: Seahawks Chiefs will wrap up their preseason tomorrow in Kansas City.
- 26:36Speaker 1: A question about whether or not even the second stringers
- 26:41Speaker 1: should play in this game based off what happened to
- 26:44Speaker 1: Bud Clark, Jake Bobo, Mason Richmond last week. We'll get
- 26:48Speaker 1: into that with Greg Bell. But primarily with Greg Bell,
- 26:51Speaker 1: I think we're going to be talking about a brand-new
- 26:53Speaker 1: ownership group, which officially took over yesterday. The Koslas were
- 26:58Speaker 1: introduced as the owners of the Seattle Seahawks. So we
- 27:03Speaker 1: move on from the Allen era into the Kosla era.
- 27:06Speaker 1: For more on that, we discuss it with our Seahawks insider,
- 27:09Speaker 1: Greg Bell.
- 27:10Speaker 3: As part of our continuing NFL coverage for the 12th man,
- 27:14Speaker 3: this is 12th Man News, part of Chuck's daily visit
- 27:18Speaker 3: with our own Greg Bell. Brought to you by Emerald
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- 27:37Speaker 1: All right, when do you go to Kansas City?
- 27:41Speaker 5: Tomorrow morning.
- 27:41Speaker 1: Tomorrow morning.
- 27:42Speaker 5: Okay.
- 27:43Speaker 1: All right. Are you ready for the preseason to be
- 27:45Speaker 1: over with as much as I am?
- 27:49Speaker 5: The little players are, at least the players that are
- 27:51Speaker 5: going to play in the real season. Yeah. It's going
- 27:54Speaker 5: to get shorter. I think it's going to be an
- 27:56Speaker 5: 18-game regular season to get to two. I can remember
- 28:00Speaker 5: when there were six preseason games.
- 28:03Speaker 6: Oh, man.
- 28:03Speaker 1: We are. Yeah. Yeah. I'm for zero. I'm for none.
- 28:09Speaker 1: That's what I'm for. That's what I'm voting for this November.
- 28:12Speaker 5: College football. Yeah, college football is like the pros anyway,
- 28:16Speaker 5: so why not make the pros like college? I don't
- 28:19Speaker 5: think it'll get to zero, but it's outlived its usefulness
- 28:25Speaker 5: because of the way coaches now treat it with starters
- 28:28Speaker 5: rarely playing. Patrick Mahomes isn't going to play tomorrow. Kenneth
- 28:31Speaker 5: Walker's got an ankle issue for the week. He's not
- 28:34Speaker 5: going to play tomorrow, and Yeah, it's for the bottom.
- 28:40Speaker 5: It ends up being for the last two weeks of
- 28:42Speaker 5: the preseason, ends up being for the last seven spots
- 28:45Speaker 5: or so, not even on the roster. And I don't
- 28:47Speaker 5: know that you need a whole preseason to determine that.
- 28:51Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Well, we'll talk more about the preseason finale
- 28:55Speaker 1: here in a moment, but I do believe the lead
- 28:57Speaker 1: is the change in the ownership group that occurred yesterday, officially.
- 29:03Speaker 1: Your reaction to hearing Vinod Khosla and family and their
- 29:08Speaker 1: press conference yesterday? Well, they're very.
- 29:13Speaker 5: He, Vinod, is very in tune with what's going on
- 29:17Speaker 5: here in terms of the football operation being... Exactly as
- 29:22Speaker 5: you would want it. As he said, how lucky are we?
- 29:26Speaker 5: How often do you get a chance to purchase and
- 29:28Speaker 5: walk into a Super Bowl champion? What a gift, is
- 29:32Speaker 5: what he said. So he's saying all the right things
- 29:36Speaker 5: about not wanting to meddle in something that is already
- 29:39Speaker 5: the best in the league at the moment. And that
- 29:42Speaker 5: should be music to Seahawks fans' ears. That certainly is
- 29:45Speaker 5: music to the Seahawks football ears, the players and the coaches.
- 29:49Speaker 5: That's what they were hoping for, and that's what it
- 29:51Speaker 5: looks like they're getting. He also said, and it's interesting,
- 29:55Speaker 5: we're here to learn. We have a lot to learn.
- 29:58Speaker 5: learn about the culture up here, football and sports in
- 30:02Speaker 5: the Northwest, and about the fan base that he knows
- 30:05Speaker 5: something about. But he did say we're here to learn,
- 30:09Speaker 5: which is also something you would hope that someone coming
- 30:12Speaker 5: brand new into a situation and run it listens instead
- 30:15Speaker 5: of acts. That, too, is a great chord to strike
- 30:20Speaker 5: on your first day. And the other thing is when
- 30:23Speaker 5: he was asked about Lumen Field, that stood out to me.
- 30:27Speaker 5: The first thing he said is that Lumen Field is iconic.
- 30:30Speaker 5: And he went on to say, we're going to learn
- 30:33Speaker 5: there and work with the community. Now there are public
- 30:37Speaker 5: entities and stadium districts and First and Goal, Inc., and
- 30:43Speaker 5: all the things that go into the operation of the
- 30:46Speaker 5: stadium and what gets put there and how the stadium operates.
- 30:49Speaker 5: And he said he's going to work with all of them.
- 30:51Speaker 5: They are going to work with all of them. Some
- 30:54Speaker 5: people interpreted his comments about Lumenfield because he didn't make
- 30:59Speaker 5: any absolutes to mean that, oh, they're going to look
- 31:02Speaker 5: for a place at Bellevue or Rent. I didn't take
- 31:04Speaker 5: that as that at all. I took it as he's
- 31:08Speaker 5: going to investigate ways that he can improve and get
- 31:12Speaker 5: more revenue out of the stadium and advance the stadium,
- 31:16Speaker 5: and that's what a new owner should do. He's got
- 31:19Speaker 5: the money, the wherewithal to upgrade the stadium and And
- 31:23Speaker 5: I think he's going to end up adding seats to it.
- 31:25Speaker 5: He's going to perhaps close the North end, the downtown
- 31:28Speaker 5: end next to the Hawks nest, but he's not going
- 31:30Speaker 5: to say that on day one. And in fact, he's
- 31:32Speaker 5: not even, they aren't even the owners yet officially until
- 31:34Speaker 5: the banks and the lawyers vet this money and clear it,
- 31:37Speaker 5: which might take a week or so before they're officially,
- 31:39Speaker 5: officially operating the team. So he's, everything he said was smart.
- 31:45Speaker 5: He's very active on social media. I noticed his ex account.
- 31:49Speaker 5: He responds to everybody about everything posted about him and
- 31:52Speaker 5: the sale and taken over. I would say so far,
- 31:56Speaker 5: so good, and you really, as a Seahawks person, Seahawks player, coach,
- 32:01Speaker 5: or fan, wouldn't want to hear anything other than what
- 32:03Speaker 5: he said yesterday.
- 32:05Speaker 1: Yeah, and yet the fan base does seem to be
- 32:09Speaker 1: a little bit nervous about this. Well, they've been in Seattle.
- 32:13Speaker 5: Those of us who have been here for more than
- 32:15Speaker 5: a day remember the Sonics and Clay Bennett and Howard Schultz. Sure,
- 32:19Speaker 5: I totally get that.
- 32:20Speaker 1: Yeah, but, I mean, do you get any inclination of that,
- 32:24Speaker 1: that when he starts talking about, like, of course you're
- 32:28Speaker 1: going to try to win another Super Bowl. You just
- 32:30Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl, so you're going to pick up
- 32:32Speaker 1: where you left off. You're not going to mess with
- 32:34Speaker 1: anything now. But when he doesn't make a declaration of
- 32:40Speaker 1: a thousand years in Seattle and planting those roots, do
- 32:47Speaker 1: you read into that at all? Or can you put
- 32:51Speaker 1: some fans out there's minds at ease that you don't
- 32:54Speaker 1: get the impression that he has any diabolical plan 10,
- 32:59Speaker 1: 15 years down the road?
- 33:02Speaker 5: No, he doesn't. They don't. Here's something else. Al Davis,
- 33:08Speaker 5: I covered Al Davis. He learned that you just can't
- 33:11Speaker 5: unilaterally do things in the NFL. You have to have
- 33:17Speaker 5: NFL approval to move a franchise. I can assure you
- 33:20Speaker 5: that the NFL wants to keep the Seahawks as the
- 33:23Speaker 5: Pacific Northwest flag on the NFL map. There's no NFL
- 33:28Speaker 5: team within 700 miles of us here. And We don't
- 33:33Speaker 5: have to explain how there's Alaska, Hawaii, Montana, Idaho, Oregon.
- 33:39Speaker 5: This is a regional team, much like the Atlanta Braves
- 33:41Speaker 5: have been a regional team in Major League Baseball because
- 33:44Speaker 5: of its geographic somewhat isolation before the Marlins and the
- 33:47Speaker 5: Braves came in. So I get it. I totally get
- 33:52Speaker 5: it because those of us that have lived through the
- 33:54Speaker 5: Sonics get it. That's a completely apples to oranges situation,
- 33:58Speaker 5: what Howard Schultz did in selling the Sonics to a
- 34:01Speaker 5: carpetbagging group that he knew was going to leave town
- 34:04Speaker 5: for a profit. This franchise was not sold for a profit.
- 34:07Speaker 5: It was sold out of an edict that the former
- 34:09Speaker 5: owner who passed away said had to be sold. It
- 34:12Speaker 5: was sold for all the money goes to philanthropics. Howard
- 34:16Speaker 5: Schultz wasn't given all the money for the Sonics to
- 34:18Speaker 5: philanthropic causes. This is a completely different situation. The fact
- 34:23Speaker 5: that they're from the Bay Area makes people nervous, and
- 34:26Speaker 5: I get that. But the fact of the matter is
- 34:30Speaker 5: nobody from Seattle, and there is money all over the
- 34:33Speaker 5: place here, corporate money to buy a force franchise. Nobody
- 34:37Speaker 5: stepped up to do it. And so the Paul Allen
- 34:41Speaker 5: Group sold it to somebody who did step up with
- 34:45Speaker 5: $ 9. 6 billion. But that's the fact of the matter is
- 34:48Speaker 5: that nobody in Seattle stepped up, so it makes people nervous,
- 34:50Speaker 5: and I understand that. The NFL doesn't want it. Nothing
- 34:54Speaker 5: that I've got from the Kozloff family or reading into
- 34:57Speaker 5: any tea leaves said that that team.
- 34:59Speaker 3: Yeah. No.
- 35:00Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 35:01Speaker 5: No, he didn't say anything about a thousand years because
- 35:03Speaker 5: he's not going to be alive for a thousand years.
- 35:04Speaker 5: His son's not either. So he can't promise something he
- 35:07Speaker 5: can't deliver. And I think he's a little smart enough
- 35:09Speaker 5: to realize that.
- 35:10Speaker 1: You know, plenty of tributes have been given and Paul
- 35:14Speaker 1: Allen has his legacy here in Seattle that will last
- 35:17Speaker 1: an eternity. What about Jody Allen as a steward or
- 35:22Speaker 1: caretaker for this franchise to have won a Super Bowl,
- 35:27Speaker 1: for it to be operating at such a high level,
- 35:30Speaker 1: and then for her to step away while on top
- 35:34Speaker 1: per the agreement? How does Jody Allen deserve to be
- 35:37Speaker 1: remembered here in the Seattle sports legacy?
- 35:41Speaker 5: As one of the best stewards in Seattle sports history,
- 35:45Speaker 5: the Mount Rushmore of Seattle sports owners. She did exactly
- 35:50Speaker 5: as Paul Allen did. She didn't change anything. She knew
- 35:53Speaker 5: what her brother had established. She knew to trust John
- 35:57Speaker 5: Schneider in the football operation, and she knew better than
- 35:59Speaker 5: to meddle into that. But she wasn't aloof, and she
- 36:02Speaker 5: didn't stay detached. She was involved in every game, every postgame.
- 36:07Speaker 5: She got debriefed from the coach and the general manager
- 36:10Speaker 5: on how the previous game went. When you talk to
- 36:12Speaker 5: Mike McDonald, he said he was always impressed on the
- 36:15Speaker 5: questions she would ask. And she would ask, why did
- 36:18Speaker 5: you do this in a game? And McDonald had to
- 36:21Speaker 5: have an answer for that. It wasn't as if she
- 36:24Speaker 5: was completely hands-off and didn't care. She stayed completely out
- 36:27Speaker 5: of the scenes and let the football people be football people.
- 36:31Speaker 5: And football GMs and coaches and players sure appreciated that.
- 36:36Speaker 5: It obviously worked wondrously. She was the one who pulled
- 36:39Speaker 5: the trigger on the end of the Pete Carroll era.
- 36:42Speaker 5: It was her decision to go with John Schneider's path
- 36:45Speaker 5: instead of Pete Carroll's. And that was the fork in
- 36:47Speaker 5: the road for the franchise. Carroll wanted to keep the
- 36:50Speaker 5: coordinators and the system and everything as it had been
- 36:53Speaker 5: for 15 years. John Schneider wanted to blow it up
- 36:56Speaker 5: and start over with a brand new coach who'd never
- 36:58Speaker 5: coached a head coach at any level. And Jody Allen,
- 37:02Speaker 5: not anybody else, Jody Allen decided on John Schneider's path.
- 37:06Speaker 5: And it worked. It obviously worked. And they reinvented themselves
- 37:10Speaker 5: and won a Super Bowl within two years. And that
- 37:12Speaker 5: is all Jodi Allen. She deserves all the flowers. She
- 37:16Speaker 5: doesn't want any of the fanfare. She just did it.
- 37:19Speaker 5: I know Portland people think completely different because of how
- 37:22Speaker 5: the Blazers have turned out. But, man, it could not
- 37:25Speaker 5: have gone better for Jodi Allen and what she did.
- 37:28Speaker 5: She was smart enough to get out of the way
- 37:30Speaker 5: and let the football people do it.
- 37:32Speaker 1: Our Seahawks insider Greg Bell joining us again this morning,
- 37:35Speaker 1: thanks to the Emerald Queen Casino, as he does most
- 37:37Speaker 1: every day here at 7.05. on Sports Radio 93.3 KJR-FM.
- 37:42Speaker 1: All right, so we are on the eve of the
- 37:44Speaker 1: final preseason game in Kansas City against the Chiefs. No
- 37:49Speaker 1: expectation for any starter to play. I brought this up
- 37:53Speaker 1: to you yesterday. I do wonder if there will be
- 37:55Speaker 1: any hesitation for even second stringers to play considering the
- 38:00Speaker 1: weekend in Nashville that Mike McDonald experienced. So what is
- 38:06Speaker 1: it that you're going to try to achieve when You've
- 38:09Speaker 1: got the Chiefs on the schedule for later this year.
- 38:12Speaker 1: You're not showing them anything. You don't want any of
- 38:15Speaker 1: your starters to play again. I would think there's some
- 38:18Speaker 1: hesitance to not play second stringers as well, and yet
- 38:22Speaker 1: you've got another football game to play, and you can't
- 38:24Speaker 1: play that game without being somewhat physical and violent. So
- 38:29Speaker 1: what is the goal to try to achieve tomorrow?
- 38:34Speaker 5: Well, stay healthy is the number one goal. You're right.
- 38:36Speaker 5: They play again in Week 7. There are 91 guys
- 38:39Speaker 5: on the Seahawks roster. So you could play only half
- 38:43Speaker 5: of them, and you still can play the game. I mean,
- 38:46Speaker 5: 45 is roughly the number of players who are eligible
- 38:48Speaker 5: for a regular season game. So it's not like they
- 38:51Speaker 5: don't have enough players to play if they want to
- 38:53Speaker 5: preserve the ones who are going to play in the
- 38:55Speaker 5: real games. I think they're going to play in the
- 38:57Speaker 5: third corners to, again, try to figure that out, which
- 39:00Speaker 5: means Nehemiah Pritchett I would expect to play. Billy Benogany,
- 39:03Speaker 5: who is an eight-year veteran, normally would not play in
- 39:06Speaker 5: this game. I think he'll play. I'll be interested to
- 39:08Speaker 5: see if Trevon Diggs gets on the field because he
- 39:11Speaker 5: just signed, well, when it kicked off nine days before
- 39:14Speaker 5: that game, and he hasn't been in pads since January.
- 39:17Speaker 5: He was full go at practice in the portion we're
- 39:19Speaker 5: allowed to watch the first ten minutes. Yesterday, I think
- 39:24Speaker 5: he may, that's a former All-Pro who normally in this
- 39:27Speaker 5: situation wouldn't play that may play. players like that. I
- 39:32Speaker 5: think they're going to have George Helani under bubble wrap
- 39:34Speaker 5: like Jadarian Price because they don't want to miss, they
- 39:37Speaker 5: don't want to lose either one of those running backs
- 39:39Speaker 5: the way the running back situation is. Emmanuel Wilson still
- 39:42Speaker 5: is not back that I can tell from the leg
- 39:45Speaker 5: injury that he, that hamstring issue that he's had for
- 39:48Speaker 5: weeks now. I didn't see Torrey Horton on the field
- 39:50Speaker 5: yesterday at the start of practice. He's been out for
- 39:53Speaker 5: a couple weeks now. There's a chance Horton won't be
- 39:56Speaker 5: available for the first game, which is now in less
- 39:59Speaker 5: than two weeks. They have enough to play, but it
- 40:03Speaker 5: will be guys, a majority of the guys that will
- 40:05Speaker 5: be cut the next day, which is what made... Go
- 40:10Speaker 5: buy a dog or adopt a dog and walk the
- 40:13Speaker 5: dog for three hours tomorrow because there's nobody... Except for
- 40:17Speaker 5: that third quarterback situation, I don't see any players determining
- 40:22Speaker 5: jobs tomorrow night that are going to be there for
- 40:24Speaker 5: the opener.
- 40:25Speaker 1: Yeah, Monday morning quarterback will be pretty dull if we
- 40:28Speaker 1: just recap me walking my two rescue dogs.
- 40:31Speaker 5: Yeah, well, but you'll have done better for yourself and
- 40:35Speaker 5: for those two dogs. Maybe I can do both.
- 40:38Speaker 1: Maybe I can do both.
- 40:42Speaker 5: Good.
- 40:43Speaker 1: Will you make sure you get in front of Ken
- 40:46Speaker 1: Walker's locker this weekend? He's not going to play, so
- 40:53Speaker 1: are you going to make sure that you talk to
- 40:54Speaker 1: K-9 before Friday ends?
- 40:57Speaker 5: No, probably not. The logistics of it is, whatever I
- 41:03Speaker 5: need to cover of the team I'm assigned to cover,
- 41:05Speaker 5: I've got to do right after the game at the
- 41:07Speaker 5: same time availability is for the Chiefs down the hall
- 41:10Speaker 5: at Arrowhead. And at Arrowhead, actually, the locker rooms are
- 41:13Speaker 5: not all that close together. So, no. Practically speaking, I
- 41:17Speaker 5: probably can't get to both. And because he won't play,
- 41:21Speaker 5: he'll be out of there in two minutes. He'll take
- 41:22Speaker 5: a shower pill and leave. Those guys, the veterans after
- 41:26Speaker 5: preseason games, leave pretty quickly. But it would be interesting
- 41:29Speaker 5: to talk about his– Chiefs experience, if there was pregame
- 41:32Speaker 5: access like in baseball, I certainly would do it.
- 41:35Speaker 1: Well, that sounds like they're going to give him the
- 41:38Speaker 1: role that he always wanted to have here. That is
- 41:40Speaker 1: one thing that's going to happen with all the money
- 41:42Speaker 1: he's going to make.
- 41:44Speaker 5: Yeah, I talked to Farhan Walji, my buddy from TSN
- 41:48Speaker 5: in Coover, and he was at Chiefs camp last week.
- 41:51Speaker 5: And he said that they had him split out as
- 41:53Speaker 5: wide receiver. They had him running rots down the field.
- 41:56Speaker 5: It wasn't just checkdowns. He was on the field for
- 41:59Speaker 5: all situations, all plays. He was actually saying he doesn't
- 42:02Speaker 5: see a backup, viable backup to him, that it is
- 42:06Speaker 5: all Ken Walker or bust. And we know how Andy
- 42:09Speaker 5: Reid likes to throw the ball to running backs and
- 42:11Speaker 5: follow them in the screen game that was nonexistent for
- 42:14Speaker 5: the Chiefs last year. Yeah, you're right. It looks like
- 42:18Speaker 5: he's getting the full meal deal exactly. And no job
- 42:21Speaker 5: sure going on there. All right.
- 42:23Speaker 1: What's the show going to discuss today at 10 o'clock?
- 42:28Speaker 5: We're going to hear a lot about the Cooper Cup.
- 42:30Speaker 5: comments from yesterday, including about Jake Bobo and how impacting
- 42:34Speaker 5: that is to the team to just lose the person,
- 42:38Speaker 5: the player and the person, and Jake Bobo for the
- 42:40Speaker 5: entire season. He also, Bobo, or Cup had some interesting
- 42:44Speaker 5: comments about being a lifelong Seahawks fan who grew up
- 42:48Speaker 5: here and now the ownership changed and the legacy of
- 42:50Speaker 5: the Allen family owning the team. So you'll hear from him.
- 42:54Speaker 5: And yeah, we'll talk more about This Torrey Horton situation
- 42:59Speaker 5: and some of the injury situations that haven't really cleared
- 43:02Speaker 5: themselves up. Emmanuel Wilson and others, 12 days now before,
- 43:07Speaker 5: 11 days, whatever it is, 13 days before the opener.
- 43:10Speaker 1: All right. Sounds good. All right. Thank you, sir. We
- 43:13Speaker 1: appreciate it. We'll be listening at 10 o'clock and talk
- 43:15Speaker 1: to you again tomorrow.
- 43:17Speaker 5: You will. Thank you. All right.
- 43:19Speaker 1: Greg Bell, our Seahawks insider, joining us right here on
- 43:21Speaker 1: Chuck in the Morning, Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM. If you
- 43:26Speaker 1: want to follow him, you should do so at gbellseattle
- 43:29Speaker 1: on X and, of course, thenewstribune.com, where you can get
- 43:33Speaker 1: all of Greg's coverage of your Seattle Seahawks. And he
- 43:36Speaker 1: joins us nearly every day during the football season at 7.05,
- 43:41Speaker 1: thanks to the Emerald Queen Casino. Coming up next on
- 43:44Speaker 1: our radio program, the ABCs of the M's. A lot
- 43:47Speaker 1: of juicy things to discuss with Ashley Ryan, who's returned.
- 43:51Speaker 1: Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.
- 43:54Speaker 2: I actually ABC'd my vacation every day.
- 43:57Speaker 1: Oh, did you?
- 43:57Speaker 2: Three letters of the alphabet.
- 43:58Speaker 1: Oh, that's great.
- 44:00Speaker 2: On day one, A was for Aloha because we arrived.
- 44:03Speaker 1: Well, of course.
- 44:04Speaker 4: B was for beverage because I needed something to drink.
- 44:09Speaker 4: And C was for can I stay in this moment forever?
- 44:14Speaker 3: Oh, nice. All right.
- 44:16Speaker 1: I love that you did the ABCs of the M's
- 44:19Speaker 1: with the family and friends for the entire trip. Full trip. Oh,
- 44:24Speaker 1: that fulfills me.
- 44:25Speaker 2: That's what I'm here for.
- 44:26Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I'm glad you left off at D because
- 44:30Speaker 1: that's exactly where we left off at.
- 44:32Speaker 2: What a coincidence.
- 44:34Speaker 1: And D is for Dumper, who, of course, fixed his
- 44:38Speaker 1: swing while Ashley was in Hawaii. And then the moment
- 44:42Speaker 1: she started flying home, he looked like a broken gate
- 44:45Speaker 1: again yesterday. That was gross. Four strikeouts. Now, I do
- 44:50Speaker 1: want to just say Jesus Lizardo was doing that to everybody.
- 44:53Speaker 1: He is an all-star pitcher, and you know how we
- 44:55Speaker 1: are against left-handers. So I'm happy to chalk it up,
- 44:59Speaker 1: but the right-handed swing looked fine. Or not fine, but
- 45:04Speaker 1: better than the left-handed swing here as of late. And
- 45:07Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, magically, poof, the left-handed swing
- 45:10Speaker 1: looks like a thing of beauty. It looks like last
- 45:12Speaker 1: year's Cal. And then you start giving yourself into thinking
- 45:15Speaker 1: the dumper's back, and... Switches over to the right side
- 45:20Speaker 1: of the plate, strikes out four times and four at-bats
- 45:23Speaker 1: and really looked like he didn't stand a chance yesterday.
- 45:27Speaker 1: So we are going through it. I mean, you ought
- 45:29Speaker 1: to deer diary something about Dumper because this is an
- 45:32Speaker 1: emotional roller coaster he's sending us on.
- 45:36Speaker 4: It really is because I was, I mean, we watched
- 45:39Speaker 4: the three-home run game and Palmer, the great, I mean.
- 45:42Speaker 2: Couldn't believe her great eyes.
- 45:45Speaker 4: And then to see what happened yesterday was a bit
- 45:48Speaker 4: of a bummer. But at the same time, I mean, yeah,
- 45:53Speaker 4: the entire offense looked terrible.
- 45:55Speaker 2: And there was no part of me that was like, well,
- 45:56Speaker 2: Cal's going to now have a homer in every game.
- 45:58Speaker 5: True.
- 45:59Speaker 2: So we all know it's not my fault. We talked
- 46:02Speaker 2: about this earlier.
- 46:03Speaker 5: Right.
- 46:03Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 46:04Speaker 2: It's Austin Hurst.
- 46:06Speaker 5: But.
- 46:08Speaker 1: We've blamed a baby.
- 46:10Speaker 2: I think he's going to be fine.
- 46:12Speaker 1: Austin, too.
- 46:12Speaker 2: Austin and Cal. They're both going to be fine. They
- 46:15Speaker 2: can both get through this.
- 46:17Speaker 1: Well, I will say this, and I kept running out
- 46:20Speaker 1: of time to talk about this yesterday, but you did
- 46:23Speaker 1: notice at the end of the previous game how the
- 46:27Speaker 1: Phillies were changing their approach toward him. So what has
- 46:31Speaker 1: Cal struggled with all season long? Catching up to the fastball,
- 46:34Speaker 1: particularly the high fastball. And once he started hitting... the fastball,
- 46:40Speaker 1: once he started looking like he was on time, what
- 46:43Speaker 1: did Aaron Nola start doing to him in game two
- 46:47Speaker 1: of the series? Kept coming up higher and tighter. And
- 46:51Speaker 1: he was like practically hitting them with every pitch that
- 46:54Speaker 1: he threw. So obviously the game plan was, we're not
- 46:58Speaker 1: going up enough. Let's get inside that kitchen. And I'm
- 47:03Speaker 1: not sure if that was exactly the story yesterday from
- 47:08Speaker 1: my vantage point. Cause I was at the game. Um,
- 47:11Speaker 1: but certainly the, the, they have not abandoned the idea
- 47:17Speaker 1: of can't let him get his arms extended. If he
- 47:20Speaker 1: has been struggling with the pitch up and in, let's
- 47:22Speaker 1: go even higher. Let's go even further in. And if
- 47:25Speaker 1: we walk him, we walk him the way that he's hitting.
- 47:28Speaker 1: And that's what ended up happening in those glorious two games, uh,
- 47:32Speaker 1: of Cal Raleigh. But, um, It's all about adjustments. And
- 47:36Speaker 1: so teams doesn't take them long to adjust to a
- 47:39Speaker 1: hot streak. And if Cal is truly back, then it
- 47:43Speaker 1: won't take him to adjust back to the way that
- 47:46Speaker 1: pitchers are approaching him. So we'll see starting tomorrow in Toronto.
- 47:49Speaker 2: He also does like playing in Toronto.
- 47:52Speaker 1: He does pretty well in Toronto. That is true. That
- 47:54Speaker 1: is true. He's kind of owned the Blue Jays. Sorry,
- 47:57Speaker 1: not sorry, Blue Jays.
- 47:59Speaker 2: Not even remotely sorry.
- 48:00Speaker 1: E is four. Okay, people. Eugenio. Gino Suarez overnight was
- 48:09Speaker 1: waived by the Cincinnati Reds. And so one of Seattle's
- 48:14Speaker 1: favorite sons is available to be picked up on the
- 48:20Speaker 1: waiver wire. Now, the waiver wire works that anybody else
- 48:23Speaker 1: with a worse record than the Mariners. could pick up
- 48:27Speaker 1: Gino Suarez. Now, I'm not sure many teams that have
- 48:31Speaker 1: worse records than the Mariners have the same outlook that
- 48:36Speaker 1: the Mariners have. With us being six games under. 500
- 48:40Speaker 1: and still thinking the organization, that the World Series is
- 48:44Speaker 1: the goal, I don't think anybody else under. 500 really
- 48:48Speaker 1: has that as a legitimate goal at this point in
- 48:52Speaker 1: the season. So, I don't know if anybody will take
- 48:54Speaker 1: on the money of Geno Suarez, and he's owed $ 2. 5
- 48:57Speaker 1: million for the rest of the season. This is the
- 49:00Speaker 1: type of year because we do not have a second
- 49:04Speaker 1: trade deadline anymore. There used to be the trade deadline
- 49:07Speaker 1: and then the waiver trade deadline at the end of August.
- 49:10Speaker 1: So since we don't have a waiver trade deadline anymore,
- 49:13Speaker 1: what teams are doing, like the Cincinnati Reds, we're not
- 49:16Speaker 1: in it. Why are we paying somebody we know is
- 49:18Speaker 1: not part of our future for for the rest of
- 49:20Speaker 1: the season? That's $ 2. 5 million we can save or pocket
- 49:25Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be. So they waived T.J. Friedel,
- 49:28Speaker 1: who's just had a nightmarish season, and they also waived
- 49:31Speaker 1: overnight Eugenio Suarez as well. And he's not had a
- 49:36Speaker 1: good season. but it hasn't been the nightmare that Friedel
- 49:41Speaker 1: has had. I mean, he's hitting over 200. I mean,
- 49:46Speaker 1: Geno flirts around 200 all the time. That's not anything
- 49:50Speaker 1: new to even a Mariners fan. Under 300 on base,
- 49:55Speaker 1: which is not good, but he has a 410 slug,
- 49:57Speaker 1: which means he's got a 705 OPS on the season.
- 50:00Speaker 1: We only have three guys on our roster that play
- 50:03Speaker 1: every day. that actively have an OPS better than that.
- 50:08Speaker 1: Only three. Julio, Dom, and who am I forgetting? Donovan? Yeah, Donovan.
- 50:15Speaker 1: Brendan Donovan, I believe. Or Randy.
- 50:18Speaker 5: Randy.
- 50:19Speaker 1: That's right. That's who I meant. Because Donovan hasn't played enough.
- 50:22Speaker 1: Randy obviously has over a 7.05 OPS. So the point
- 50:26Speaker 1: is that he's not going to stand out as somebody
- 50:29Speaker 1: having a terrible season in Seattle. Obviously, the clubhouse still
- 50:33Speaker 1: loves him. Obviously, the fan base still loves him. He's
- 50:37Speaker 1: been told twice, we love you, but we're letting you go.
- 50:42Speaker 1: Maybe he doesn't want to come back. Maybe he doesn't
- 50:45Speaker 1: want to experience that again. I don't know. But, Ashley,
- 50:49Speaker 1: you've got to consider it. We're still playing West and
- 50:52Speaker 1: Wilson at third base, for goodness sake.
- 50:53Speaker 4: I mean, I would love to see it. I think
- 50:55Speaker 4: that he does bring the good vibes. Everybody likes him.
- 50:57Speaker 4: You know he fits in well with the team, and
- 50:59Speaker 4: it's a little bit of a Just an addition that
- 51:02Speaker 4: you could really use. And looking at the standings, yeah,
- 51:04Speaker 4: nine teams with a record worse than the Mariners, one
- 51:07Speaker 4: of them being the Reds. So there's eight teams. And
- 51:10Speaker 4: the closest that any of those teams are to their
- 51:13Speaker 4: division is the Tigers, and they're eight games out.
- 51:17Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean... And they've already sold at the
- 51:20Speaker 1: Dread Trade. They've already announced what they're going to be.
- 51:23Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody else is in the teens or higher out
- 51:25Speaker 4: of the playoffs, basically.
- 51:26Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 51:28Speaker 1: I mean, I know they're considering it. I don't know
- 51:31Speaker 1: what the relationship is like right now. Obviously, the relationship
- 51:35Speaker 1: between Geno and the clubhouse is perfectly fine. And so
- 51:39Speaker 1: I don't know if he comes back for a third tour.
- 51:42Speaker 1: But truth of the matter is, the way this team
- 51:44Speaker 1: has struggled offensively this year, you could argue they could
- 51:48Speaker 1: use him. At this stage in the season. So we'll see.
- 51:54Speaker 1: I mean, I would, based off of what I mentioned
- 51:58Speaker 1: and what you just mapped out, I think we would
- 52:01Speaker 1: have the first.
- 52:04Speaker 5: Option.
- 52:05Speaker 1: We would be first in line.
- 52:07Speaker 2: It seems like it.
- 52:07Speaker 1: For the teams that would have any interest in adding
- 52:11Speaker 1: Gino Suarez and his two and a half million dollars
- 52:14Speaker 1: for the rest of the year. But it sort of
- 52:16Speaker 1: makes sense. Little good vibes magic.
- 52:20Speaker 2: It definitely makes more sense than it doesn't, if that
- 52:23Speaker 2: makes sense.
- 52:24Speaker 6: I agree.
- 52:25Speaker 1: I agree. Finally, F is for fairest of them all.
- 52:30Speaker 1: It is returning today at 8 o'clock. It is Mirror
- 52:33Speaker 1: Mirror on the Wall or Magic Mirror. One or the other.
- 52:37Speaker 1: One or the other, exactly. I have promised a Jerry
- 52:41Speaker 1: DePoto Mirror Mirror. I don't want to do that today.
- 52:46Speaker 1: We're going to do it at some point. I can't
- 52:48Speaker 1: wait to do it at some point. But it feels
- 52:51Speaker 1: to me like the better topic to discuss today in
- 52:55Speaker 1: Mirror Mirror is the piggyback. And for those, we've only
- 53:01Speaker 1: done this once, so I'm sure nobody knows what I'm
- 53:03Speaker 1: talking about. But the idea behind it is that I'm
- 53:07Speaker 1: going to make my statements known about the piggyback situation,
- 53:11Speaker 1: which could be returning to our lives here very shortly.
- 53:14Speaker 1: And then I want to hear from you about reasons
- 53:20Speaker 1: why you don't want it back. Okay. And I don't
- 53:24Speaker 1: want a big cluster. I don't want a big mountain
- 53:27Speaker 1: of reasons. I want the biggest reason that you have
- 53:31Speaker 1: for not wanting the piggyback to return. And you can
- 53:34Speaker 1: do that on TalkBack. Yeah, we talk back on piggyback.
- 53:39Speaker 1: And you can do TalkBack and give us a 30
- 53:41Speaker 1: second audio piece as to why you don't want it
- 53:44Speaker 1: to return and You can send us a text. It's
- 53:49Speaker 1: at 49451. You could send us a message via YouTube,
- 53:52Speaker 1: our YouTube channel, which we are on right now. But
- 53:55Speaker 1: I want some examples of. why we absolutely cannot bring
- 54:01Speaker 1: the piggyback back. So we'll do that with Mirror Mirror,
- 54:05Speaker 1: where I claim to be the fairest of them all
- 54:09Speaker 1: for you. And I want to hear all the arguments
- 54:13Speaker 1: against it one at a time, and we will break
- 54:16Speaker 1: them down one at a time. And I will determine
- 54:20Speaker 1: through the Mirror Mirror, the magic mirror, whether or not
- 54:23Speaker 1: your argument is fair.
- 54:25Speaker 3: Or not.
- 54:25Speaker 2: I really do enjoy this segment.
- 54:27Speaker 1: All right, so we'll do that at 8 o'clock. I'm
- 54:29Speaker 1: just giving you a heads up right now as to
- 54:32Speaker 1: what we're going to do so we can start getting
- 54:33Speaker 1: your feedback in. All right, coming up next, I do
- 54:37Speaker 1: want to learn a little bit more about what has
- 54:39Speaker 1: happened in the last week and a half of Ashley
- 54:41Speaker 1: Ryan's life. Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. Leonard Williams and
- 54:46Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks have agreed to terms on an extension
- 54:50Speaker 1: that makes Leonard Williams one of the highest paid defensive
- 54:52Speaker 1: tackles in the National Football League. Sounds like it is
- 54:55Speaker 1: a three-year, $ 90 million extension for Leonard Williams. The story
- 55:01Speaker 1: that I saw says coming off of a massive season,
- 55:05Speaker 1: he's coming off of two massive seasons as a member
- 55:08Speaker 1: of the Seahawks. And I think we've seen in hard
- 55:10Speaker 1: knocks just how valuable Seahawks he is to this team
- 55:14Speaker 1: in so many ways, even ways that I didn't even
- 55:17Speaker 1: understand until you start seeing behind the scenes footage. So
- 55:22Speaker 1: great player, great teammate, seems like a great human being
- 55:26Speaker 1: as far as we can tell. And one of the
- 55:29Speaker 1: players clearly, Ashley, that the Seahawks have identified as, hey,
- 55:33Speaker 1: we've got a championship window here and this guy needs
- 55:36Speaker 1: to be a part of it.
- 55:37Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 55:37Speaker 4: And I think we were talking about it, what, two
- 55:39Speaker 4: years ago that the rest of the NFL didn't recognize
- 55:41Speaker 4: the value of Leonard Williams, but the Seahawks sure recognize
- 55:44Speaker 4: the value of Leonard Williams. And this is just further
- 55:47Speaker 4: proof that he is such an important part of this team.
- 55:49Speaker 1: So we now have, and I do want to talk
- 55:52Speaker 1: about this in greater detail later in the show. Now
- 55:55Speaker 1: you have a cornerback making over 30 million. You have
- 55:58Speaker 1: a receiver making, what, 40 million. You've got a Um,
- 56:02Speaker 1: you've got a defensive tackle now making 30 million. Byron
- 56:05Speaker 1: Murphy's going to make 30 to 40 million on his
- 56:09Speaker 1: new deal next season. Um, and Sam Darnold is going
- 56:13Speaker 1: to have to be paid 45, 50, $ 55 million. If
- 56:18Speaker 1: he has another, even if he doesn't have another super
- 56:21Speaker 1: bowl year, if he has another great year, you don't
- 56:24Speaker 1: want him to go anywhere. You're going to have to
- 56:26Speaker 1: start paying him some real quarterback money. top, you know,
- 56:29Speaker 1: maybe not top of the market, but pretty close to
- 56:32Speaker 1: that if he puts together back-to-back great seasons as a Seahawks.
- 56:36Speaker 1: So you can see, again, we'll discuss more about this later,
- 56:40Speaker 1: but you can see when Kansas City people and New
- 56:44Speaker 1: England people, people that have won multiple championships, they warn you,
- 56:51Speaker 1: you know, It's so hard to keep these teams together
- 56:54Speaker 1: because of the salary cap, and you do have to
- 56:56Speaker 1: pick and choose. I'll say they're picking and choosing the
- 56:59Speaker 1: right guys as far as I can tell, but man,
- 57:02Speaker 1: that money evaporates very quickly under a cap when you
- 57:06Speaker 1: start handing out $ 30 million per year contracts to four, five,
- 57:10Speaker 1: six different guys.
- 57:11Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they're going to have to have a
- 57:12Speaker 4: conversation with the Dodgers soon and see if they can
- 57:14Speaker 4: come up with a way to defer some money.
- 57:17Speaker 2: Can you do that?
- 57:19Speaker 1: Jeff Passan says no, it doesn't really have an effect.
- 57:22Speaker 2: Oh, but did he say that or did he not
- 57:24Speaker 2: say that?
- 57:25Speaker 1: Well, he said it, but he says now he didn't
- 57:28Speaker 1: say it. Oh, okay. But there's no proof. There is proof.
- 57:30Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
- 57:31Speaker 1: He said it and now is claiming he didn't say it. Okay.
- 57:35Speaker 1: And there's proof of him saying it and there's also
- 57:37Speaker 1: proof of him saying that he didn't say it.
- 57:39Speaker 2: Okay, so that's double proof.
- 57:40Speaker 3: Right, right.
- 57:41Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, Mariners or Seahawks, Dodgers on that same plan.
- 57:45Speaker 1: That's what we're going to have to do. Yep, yep.
- 57:48Speaker 1: I think the Coastal has also bought the Seahawks for
- 57:50Speaker 1: $ 10 billion that they will pay in the year 3005.
- 57:55Speaker 2: Makes sense.
- 57:56Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 57:56Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 57:57Speaker 1: And the Allens were okay with that.
- 57:58Speaker 2: They were like, yeah, we don't need it now anyway.
- 58:00Speaker 1: Right. Why would you need money? No. In a sale.
- 58:04Speaker 2: We're just giving it all to charities.
- 58:06Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 58:06Speaker 2: Why would you work out an agreement and.
- 58:08Speaker 1: Feel obligated to pay then?
- 58:10Speaker 3: No.
- 58:11Speaker 2: Yeah. But how about you give us a million dollars
- 58:13Speaker 2: a year until then?
- 58:14Speaker 5: Yeah. All right.
- 58:16Speaker 1: So there you go. There's your breaking news. There's a
- 58:20Speaker 1: little bit of analysis and a lot of sarcasm. Yes.
- 58:22Speaker 1: In the first five minutes of the eight o'clock hour.
- 58:25Speaker 1: So hopefully you enjoyed that. But right now it is
- 58:28Speaker 1: time for our newest feature here on the show. We've
- 58:32Speaker 1: only done it once. I'm bringing it back today. It
- 58:36Speaker 1: is time for Mirror Mirror.
- 58:39Speaker 3: Magic mirror on the wall.
- 58:41Speaker 2: Who is the fairest one of all?
- 58:44Speaker 5: It's me.
- 58:45Speaker 1: It's Mirror, Mirror on the Wall.
- 58:48Speaker 5: As asked, who's the fairest of them all?
- 58:51Speaker 1: And I'm here to tell you it's this guy. Well,
- 58:54Speaker 1: that's good.
- 58:54Speaker 2: Whoever.
- 59:01Speaker 1: It's Mirror Mirror on the Wall is Ask Who's the
- 59:04Speaker 1: Fairest of Them All, and I'm here to tell you
- 59:07Speaker 1: it's this guy.
- 59:08Speaker 2: Well, that's good.
- 59:09Speaker 1: Who has two thumbs and is the fairest of them all.
- 59:13Speaker 1: This guy.
- 59:14Speaker 2: That guy in the Kraken hat.
- 59:16Speaker 1: That's right, YouTubers. So, look, and I'm not saying there
- 59:21Speaker 1: are a lot of different definitions for fair. There's light-skinned.
- 59:24Speaker 1: I'm that, but I'm not the fairest.
- 59:26Speaker 5: Of them all.
- 59:26Speaker 2: No, just on YouTube, it looks like. We've never seen
- 59:29Speaker 2: the sun.
- 59:30Speaker 1: But there are fairer. Yeah. You know. And then there's fair.
- 59:35Speaker 1: It's like the most handsome or the most beautiful person
- 59:39Speaker 1: can be called fair. Well, I'm not saying that. I mean,
- 59:42Speaker 1: top 12. But not the fairest. Right.
- 59:49Speaker 2: You could go to the world's fair.
- 59:51Speaker 1: Yeah. Totally different. Like Ryan Healy's probably more, even though
- 59:55Speaker 1: I saw him yesterday, really large head.
- 59:58Speaker 5: Really?
- 59:58Speaker 1: Or does that?
- 59:58Speaker 2: Yeah. He'll tell you that.
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: So, yeah, I'm not the fairest of them all from
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: that standpoint, but I do try. I really try my
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: took us off to be the fairest of them all
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: on the airwaves. I do appreciate that. You know, I
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: put a lot of thought into my takes, my, even
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: the hot ones. Try to put a lot of thought
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: in them. I think I will admit when I'm wrong.
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: And I think I do. And I'm not going to
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: apologize for it. I take credit when I've been right
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: in the past. But I don't ever want to be
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: seen as unfair. So we have another Mariner Topics to discuss.
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: I've already warned you. We've already got some talkbacks on
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: this topic. And we're going to get to your texts
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: in a moment. And I want them one at a time.
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: Don't give me a mountain of evidence. I just want
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: your best reason for not wanting the piggyback to come back.
- 1:00:53Speaker 5: Right.
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: Okay? And the reason I'm bringing this up is because
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: it looks like it's going to in some form. We
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: don't know when, how, what form it might take, but
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: I'm hard-pressed to come up with a reason why Bryce
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: Miller makes his next start. The way that he's pitched,
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: his confession of he's not 100%, the fact that we're
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: in a pennant race. right now. And the fact that
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: we would have to go back to a six-man rotation.
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: I know what I saw from George the other day.
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: I want to see that again in five days. Yes, please.
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: Not six days. I know how well Logan's pitching right now.
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: I want to see that in the span of a
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: five-man rotation. I don't want to wait an extra day
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: every time through the rotation for Logan Gilbert to pitch.
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: So I don't want the six-man rotation.
- 1:01:44Speaker 4: I was going to say, too, look at what, with Wu,
- 1:01:46Speaker 4: he missed a start. And look at what happened to
- 1:01:48Speaker 4: him yesterday. Threw everything off.
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: Yeah, it did throw him off a little bit. Even
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: though his stuff looked fine, his location was not. And so,
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: let me just give you my take on the piggyback. Okay.
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: As you know, I didn't think it was a crazy idea.
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: And I don't think it was an epic failure. I
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: thought it was actually a very creative idea for how
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: to handle this. that you theoretically could take two pitchers
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: who weren't your best at the time and slot them
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: five innings, four innings, so that you keep them stretched out,
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: you save a bullpen for the day. And frankly, there
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: were a lot of things about it that worked, that
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: were successful. Bryce pitched his best while in that piggyback,
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: by the way. So did Luis Castillo. Now, were there
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: some problems with it? Yes, absolutely some problems with it.
- 1:02:47Speaker 1: And one of them was communication. They didn't communicate it
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: well enough to the players that were participating in it.
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: There was no plan. Well, what if it's a one-run
- 1:02:58Speaker 1: game and Castillo starts to struggle at the end? And
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: we saw that game where they brought Munoz in and
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: then like, emergency fashion and he clearly wasn't ready to
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: pitch and he inherits two base runners because at the
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: last second you decided to abandon the piggyback.
- 1:03:14Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no.
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: We need Munoz to now put out this fire and
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: save the game. Well, that's not effective. That was dumb. Uh,
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: and then what happens when you have a pitcher like
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: Miller was who's locked in and is through five, he's
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: got five shutout innings and he's sitting at 64 pitches
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: and There was no plan for that either, and I
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: would think that you have to have an adjustable element
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: to your piggyback if you're going to go back to
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: this where the pitcher isn't just automatically slated, you're working
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: innings six through nine tonight, that you be able to
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: adjust if the starting pitcher's on a heater and you
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: don't want to take him out of the game. So
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: to me, there were some effective things about it. I
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: think it was certainly creative. There are already copycats around
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: Major League Baseball that are doing the exact same thing.
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: They're just not calling it the piggyback. And it's just
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: not because we started it. But I do believe that
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: there are some merits to bringing it back as long
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: as the adjustments that I just discussed are made to it.
- 1:04:22Speaker 4: Well, and I would like to say, too, if you're
- 1:04:23Speaker 4: going to bring it back actually bring it back because
- 1:04:26Speaker 4: they were going to bring it back and they were
- 1:04:28Speaker 4: going to do it with everybody, but then every time
- 1:04:29Speaker 4: that they were going to do it, then they swapped
- 1:04:31Speaker 4: back out to a six-man rotation. So make the decision
- 1:04:35Speaker 4: and stick with the decision as far as that's the
- 1:04:38Speaker 4: day you're doing the piggyback. Then allow for flexibility within
- 1:04:41Speaker 4: that game for what's going on with the piggyback.
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: Yeah, they weren't really committed to it, were they?
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: No, it was weird.
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: Now, I could maybe put that under the communication umbrella
- 1:04:50Speaker 1: or we could add that to the things that need to...
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: Because it was an experiment, and that's what you do
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: with experiments. You put them in the Bunsen burners and
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: everything else, and then you test it. No, we didn't
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: get the result we were looking for. But what if
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: we change it just like this? And then the next
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: time you run the experiment, you get a better result,
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: even though it might not be perfect. And then you
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: make another adjustment. You add another eye of newt. You
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: only had one eye of newt in that recipe. Everyone
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: knows you need two. Yeah, maybe you needed three. And
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: that's what you need. And then there's the other element
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: of it, which was disappointing, is that we are experimenting
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: with this while the team's not playing good baseball. And
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: it was maddening to some people. Why are we doing this?
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: So those are, those are my beliefs. I'm not saying
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: I want it back. I'm, but I am saying that
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: I don't think it was without merit. Some people out
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: there want to bury it with a shovel and then
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: bury the shovel. And those are the people I want
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: to hear from today and mirror mirror, give me one reason,
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: not a mountain of reasons. And then we will isolate
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: and discuss that one reason. uh, at a time and
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: let's go through this. Let's go to the, uh, talk backs.
- 1:06:01Speaker 4: No piggyback.
- 1:06:03Speaker 8: Bryce is breaking down. He'd be perfect to just air
- 1:06:07Speaker 8: it out for an inning or two. He might need
- 1:06:10Speaker 8: a little bit more rest. I think that'd be okay.
- 1:06:13Speaker 8: If we don't have a short bullpen, like we've had
- 1:06:16Speaker 8: the entire effing season, just.
- 1:06:18Speaker 3: Put them in the bullpen.
- 1:06:19Speaker 8: It's not going to be a starter in the playoffs anyway.
- 1:06:21Speaker 8: You might as well start the transition now.
- 1:06:24Speaker 3: Um, Yeah, that's it.
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. I think it's a great argument. I
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: think Bryce is pitching like he deserves a demotion to
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: the bullpen right now. And if he's not 100% healthy,
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: all the more reason to do it. Here's what I'm
- 1:06:39Speaker 1: going to push back a little bit on. Why do
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: we have to then just say Bryce goes from, okay,
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: he can't get through six right now, but we automatically
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: say he's only going to pitch one. We don't have
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: a long reliever. I don't know why. I don't know
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: if Jerry and Justin are allergic to a long reliever,
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: but long relievers have been around forever. Cubs used one
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: in Aaron Savali in the game that they beat us.
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: I mean, every team I think should have a long reliever,
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: a guy just in case can chew up some innings
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: for you. We could have used one yesterday. Woo was
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: done after four. Instead, we're using Spire and Bizzardo down
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: six runs where we could have used our long reliever.
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: What's wrong with Bryce Miller, Ashley, going three innings of relief?
- 1:07:28Speaker 1: Because it looks like what he's doing is breaking down
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: like in the fourth and beyond. That's when he tends
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: to break down. And that's pretty much a piggyback. It's
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: just not. You haven't married to it before the game started.
- 1:07:41Speaker 5: Right.
- 1:07:41Speaker 3: Right?
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: But you are. I mean, every one of our starting
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: pitchers right now, with the exception of George in his
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: last outing, is having trouble getting through the sixth. Every
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: single one, even Logan is having trouble getting to the
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: sixth inning right now. What is wrong with having Bryce
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: Miller throw for three innings of relief? I trust him
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: for three innings of relief. And, yeah, he can let
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: it rip like the caller just suggested. He can let
- 1:08:07Speaker 1: it rip for three innings. He doesn't have to worry
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: about pacing himself. But he's certainly stretched out far enough
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: that you don't have to go from you're a starter
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: to now you're just a one-inning guy. We could use
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: a two-, three-, four-inning guy out of our pen for
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: games like yesterday or Or other games in which we've
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: got a bit of a lead, the starter's gone five,
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: he's thrown 100 pitches, Bryce can go three and then
- 1:08:32Speaker 1: hand it off to Munoz. That's kind of piggybacking. It's
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: just not declaring it before the game starts.
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: Yeah, and I have no problem with that.
- 1:08:39Speaker 4: I mean, we talked about that idea with Castillo before
- 1:08:42Speaker 4: he got traded.
- 1:08:43Speaker 2: Why couldn't he go be a long reliever?
- 1:08:45Speaker 4: And then eventually maybe you work him into high leverage
- 1:08:47Speaker 4: situations down the road.
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: Down the line.
- 1:08:49Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: I don't hate that idea.
- 1:08:52Speaker 4: I don't know why we seem to just be so
- 1:08:56Speaker 4: regimented on everything involving our bullpen.
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: It is wonderful.
- 1:09:00Speaker 4: We've at least now allowed someone to go out for
- 1:09:02Speaker 4: one batter and then.
- 1:09:03Speaker 2: Come back the next inning. But even that took forever
- 1:09:06Speaker 2: to get done.
- 1:09:07Speaker 4: So I don't quite understand why we're so averse to...
- 1:09:12Speaker 4: To that idea, it's, I mean, that's, yeah, that's basically,
- 1:09:16Speaker 4: as you said, what piggyback is.
- 1:09:17Speaker 2: So why would we not consider that?
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't mind having somebody that could be, because
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: usually long relievers are guys that are just chewing up innings.
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: I think it's a great idea to have a long
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: reliever that can go three innings with a one or
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: two run lead. that you trust. I mean, what's wrong
- 1:09:35Speaker 1: with that? He's already stretched out, but he's obviously struggling
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: once he gets to the fourth and fifth inning with something,
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: some sort of injury or conditioning issue. I mean, Bryce
- 1:09:44Speaker 1: Miller is red-faced and sweating in the fourth inning of
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: every single game he's pitching here as of late. Maybe
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: that's the role. All right, what else we got?
- 1:09:52Speaker 2: All right, we got some texts here.
- 1:09:54Speaker 4: So from the 206 regarding the piggyback, Just don't call
- 1:09:57Speaker 4: it a piggyback.
- 1:09:59Speaker 2: Put a starter in the bullpen.
- 1:10:00Speaker 4: Allow the manager to determine when the starter is done.
- 1:10:03Speaker 2: And then expect three plus innings of relief.
- 1:10:05Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of what I just said. Yeah, exactly.
- 1:10:07Speaker 4: That's why I just thought that was funny because that's
- 1:10:09Speaker 4: what they thought as well.
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: Well, I also like the argument of just don't call
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: it a piggyback. Even if that argument would have ended
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: right there.
- 1:10:16Speaker 2: That's what so many people.
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: Were so mad about. Yeah, they can't stand the word.
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I'm happy with that. I
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: don't care. I'm not married to the phrase... It's just
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: what people know. So that's why we refer to it,
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: because if I started calling it a nut cluster, well,
- 1:10:35Speaker 1: you'd probably be lost. What's a nut cluster?
- 1:10:37Speaker 2: What's a nut cluster? Then you have to explain it
- 1:10:38Speaker 2: every time.
- 1:10:40Speaker 4: It is interesting, though, because we have a lot, like
- 1:10:43Speaker 4: from the 206, why can't we have someone in the
- 1:10:44Speaker 4: bullpen for a long relief? Bryce would be a great
- 1:10:48Speaker 4: long reliever also from the 206. So lots of people
- 1:10:52Speaker 4: in that same kind of boat. We've also got from
- 1:10:54Speaker 4: the four to five. I want it back, but only
- 1:10:56Speaker 4: with Kate and Miller and only Miller out of the pen.
- 1:10:59Speaker 4: Same situation there with Miller out of the pen. That
- 1:11:02Speaker 4: would be more regimented.
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: That's another interesting thing to bring up is Kate Anderson,
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: because a lot of us had a problem when he
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: was sent out for the sixth inning in his first start.
- 1:11:12Speaker 1: He hasn't thrown more than five innings, hardly in any
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: start this year. You know, hasn't thrown more than 80 pitches.
- 1:11:19Speaker 1: And yet in his first major league game against one
- 1:11:22Speaker 1: of the best lineups in the sport with the top
- 1:11:24Speaker 1: of the order coming up, we're sending him out in
- 1:11:27Speaker 1: the sixth. And sure enough, he gets pounded in the
- 1:11:30Speaker 1: sixth inning, third time through the lineup of a great lineup. Right.
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: And I mean, we have conditioned him. It doesn't mean
- 1:11:37Speaker 1: that you're babying him.
- 1:11:39Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: At some point you do have to let it rip.
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: with Kate Anderson, but his first game after you've conditioned
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: him all season long to only throw four or five innings,
- 1:11:49Speaker 1: he's a perfect candidate to have somebody and not necessarily,
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: like I said, not it's Anderson Miller and Munoz today.
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be like announced to the world,
- 1:12:00Speaker 1: but if Kate Anderson's five innings is at 80 pitches, Yeah.
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: That's about as much as we can expect him to go.
- 1:12:08Speaker 1: Maybe we cheated a little bit as we go, but
- 1:12:10Speaker 1: that could be the game where Bryce Miller comes in
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: for the sixth, seventh, and eighth for you and I
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: think could be effective in that role.
- 1:12:19Speaker 4: We have these two interesting texts from two different people,
- 1:12:21Speaker 4: but I want to read them back to back.
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: So Marcus says, I want it back. The sixth man,
- 1:12:25Speaker 2: you lose a reliever.
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: What's it back?
- 1:12:27Speaker 4: In the sixth man, you lose a reliever and the
- 1:12:29Speaker 4: piggyback helps the bullpen. Then from the 503. It leaves
- 1:12:33Speaker 4: our bullpen short, and it's saying to script games in advance,
- 1:12:36Speaker 4: which I agree with that we just talked about, the
- 1:12:38Speaker 4: scripting games in advance. But how does it help our
- 1:12:40Speaker 4: bullpen and also leave our bullpen short, according to those
- 1:12:43Speaker 4: two texts?
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: Well, I mean, that's actually just inaccurate. It should not
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: leave your bullpen short. If you are having difficulty, and
- 1:12:51Speaker 1: Dan is, and I am emphasizing Dan. It's Dan. If
- 1:12:57Speaker 1: you are having trouble running out of relievers... than to theoretically,
- 1:13:05Speaker 1: as you and I have discussed many times, once through
- 1:13:08Speaker 1: a five-man rotation, you get to give your bullpen pretty
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: much the night off.
- 1:13:14Speaker 2: And your manager the night off.
- 1:13:15Speaker 1: I mean, ideally, you're up three. Bryce Miller's just pitched
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: his third inning. You go into the ninth, and you're like,
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: Finish it out. Just go ahead and finish it out
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: at that stage. I mean, that's the ideal piggyback scenario,
- 1:13:32Speaker 1: but I do want them to be able to adjust. Yes.
- 1:13:36Speaker 1: If you're up one. And Bryce isn't used to closing
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: out games and put traffic on the previous inning and
- 1:13:42Speaker 1: barely got out of it. I want to go to
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: Munoz in the ninth inning. And you should be able
- 1:13:47Speaker 1: to call that audible in the middle of a game.
- 1:13:49Speaker 4: Yeah, again, you have to have some flexibility with it.
- 1:13:51Speaker 4: This one from the 206, I don't know that I
- 1:13:54Speaker 4: agree with this, but I'm intrigued to hear what you
- 1:13:56Speaker 4: have to say. Piggyback is not good because the pitchers
- 1:13:59Speaker 4: don't like it, so they don't adjust to it as athletes.
- 1:14:02Speaker 1: But they were both good. Exactly. Both Castillo and Miller
- 1:14:06Speaker 1: were effective. Yeah. They were their most effective the entire
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: season when they were doing that. Bryce was very frustrated.
- 1:14:14Speaker 1: Castillo was very frustrated. But they channeled that frustration into
- 1:14:19Speaker 1: effective pitching.
- 1:14:22Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:14:22Speaker 1: But the things that they did not foresee that could
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: be issues, and shame on both Jerry, Justin, and Dan.
- 1:14:31Speaker 1: for not foreseeing that these could be issues because they
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: weren't exactly out of nowhere. Right. Like, yeah, your pitcher's
- 1:14:38Speaker 1: going to get pissed if he's on a roll through
- 1:14:40Speaker 1: five innings and you take him out of the game.
- 1:14:43Speaker 1: Or your pitcher's going to get pissed if you let
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: the other guy go through the seventh, but you're through
- 1:14:48Speaker 1: five and now you're taking me out. You let Bryce
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: go six or seven the last time. Why am I?
- 1:14:53Speaker 1: I'm on a roll right now, too.
- 1:14:54Speaker 5: Right.
- 1:14:55Speaker 1: That's the stuff that they did not account for somehow,
- 1:14:59Speaker 1: some way. And shame on the entire organization for that. Yeah. No,
- 1:15:03Speaker 1: I agree. All right.
- 1:15:04Speaker 2: We're going to go back to back text again here.
- 1:15:06Speaker 2: This is interesting to me again. We've got 206.
- 1:15:09Speaker 4: No more piggyback because the manager and staff in charge
- 1:15:12Speaker 4: don't know how to run a piggyback rotation. And from
- 1:15:15Speaker 4: the 253, the number one reason not to do it
- 1:15:17Speaker 4: is Dan Wilson. He can't adjust on the fly and
- 1:15:19Speaker 4: has to stick to a predetermined plan. But that's what
- 1:15:21Speaker 4: the piggyback is, as it is right now.
- 1:15:23Speaker 1: You're right. You're right. Right? Hey, I think that's probably
- 1:15:26Speaker 1: a really good argument. I mean, based off of what
- 1:15:28Speaker 1: I've said about Dan for the last two and a
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: half years, I'm obviously not going to dispute that. I
- 1:15:34Speaker 1: don't know if he can manage on the fly. Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:15:37Speaker 1: I mean, it seems absurd to say that about a
- 1:15:39Speaker 1: major league manager, but I don't know if he can
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: manage on the fly. I mean, he doesn't have to offensively.
- 1:15:45Speaker 1: We don't do anything anymore. We just green lights to
- 1:15:48Speaker 1: everybody in the batter's box on the base paths. That's
- 1:15:53Speaker 1: what he does offensively. Um, and pitching wise, I've had
- 1:15:57Speaker 1: problems with the way that he's managed his bullpen since
- 1:16:00Speaker 1: he started two and a half years ago. So I'm
- 1:16:02Speaker 1: not going to argue that you might be right. He
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: might not be able to adjust to anything other than no, no, no, Jerry,
- 1:16:08Speaker 1: you told me piggyback five and four. That's what I did.
- 1:16:12Speaker 4: But if, and that's what I was going to say,
- 1:16:13Speaker 4: but if you're keeping to that plan of the year,
- 1:16:16Speaker 4: the starter goes this and the reliever goes this then
- 1:16:19Speaker 4: that piggyback's great for him but if you are wanting
- 1:16:22Speaker 4: to bring in the adjustments like we talked about then
- 1:16:24Speaker 4: it would be a bad idea i'm going to close with.
- 1:16:26Speaker 1: This and i'm thank you for the feedback it was
- 1:16:28Speaker 1: even more than i thought otherwise i'd have saved more
- 1:16:30Speaker 1: time for uh more of your excellent feedback here today
- 1:16:34Speaker 1: but i want to say this like because i'm going
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: to place some blame on jerry for this situation obviously
- 1:16:41Speaker 1: um As I said, I think this could be an
- 1:16:44Speaker 1: effective tool. I think there's even a possibility this could
- 1:16:48Speaker 1: be the future of baseball. We might see just a
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: lot more starting pitchers being used, but designated to go
- 1:16:57Speaker 1: just four innings at a time coming out of the bullpen.
- 1:17:00Speaker 1: We might see this start a trend. I really do
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: believe that in the future. This is what I've always,
- 1:17:07Speaker 1: this has been my biggest criticism of Jerry DiPoto. And
- 1:17:10Speaker 1: people know that I like Jerry DiPoto. He's always doing
- 1:17:14Speaker 1: his Oprah Winfrey interview about what a genius he is
- 1:17:18Speaker 1: before having accomplished something genius. He already has thought, I'm
- 1:17:25Speaker 1: going to be a pioneer with this thing. Without ironing
- 1:17:29Speaker 1: out the details. Without ironing out the wrinkles here. I mean,
- 1:17:34Speaker 1: this was a very creative idea that had some merits
- 1:17:38Speaker 1: to it. But for them to have been blindsided about
- 1:17:42Speaker 1: stuff that they should have seen was coming by doing
- 1:17:46Speaker 1: this shows you that they were more interested in changing
- 1:17:52Speaker 1: the game than they were about introducing a winning formula
- 1:17:58Speaker 1: to the baseball team this year. Who desperately needed it
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: at the time. And it threw them off. It threw
- 1:18:04Speaker 1: them off of... whatever track that they were on because
- 1:18:08Speaker 1: you ended up pissing off people and people didn't understand
- 1:18:11Speaker 1: what was going on and what are our roles. Even
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: the fan base was pissed off about something that for
- 1:18:16Speaker 1: the most part worked in a lot of ways, but
- 1:18:21Speaker 1: the ways that it didn't work could have been avoided
- 1:18:25Speaker 1: and you didn't think through it as an organization. That
- 1:18:28Speaker 1: would be my main argument against the piggyback.
- 1:18:31Speaker 2: Is that fair?
- 1:18:32Speaker 1: Is that the fairest of them all?
- 1:18:33Speaker 2: I think that is fair.
- 1:18:34Speaker 1: Is it the fairest of them all?
- 1:18:37Speaker 2: Yeah, I looked at all the arguments. It is the
- 1:18:39Speaker 2: fairest of them all.
- 1:18:39Speaker 1: Well done, sir. Mission accomplished. All right, we've got a
- 1:18:42Speaker 1: lot to discuss with the National Football League. We'll do
- 1:18:45Speaker 1: it next. Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. He probably gets
- 1:18:48Speaker 1: sick of the fish jokes.
- 1:18:50Speaker 2: I bet he loves fishing in the dark, though.
- 1:18:52Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:18:52Speaker 2: That's a nice, relaxing thing to do.
- 1:18:54Speaker 1: We're not sick of the fish jokes. That's why we
- 1:18:56Speaker 1: keep telling them.
- 1:18:57Speaker 2: That's right.
- 1:18:58Speaker 1: Well, time for a little Filet-O-Fish here on the Chuck.
- 1:19:02Speaker 1: In the morning's radio program, a little fish nugget from
- 1:19:07Speaker 1: yesterday's conversation with Coach Fish, David Softy Mahler, and Richard L.
- 1:19:13Speaker 1: Thain out at Husky's Camp. We're just 10 days away
- 1:19:17Speaker 1: from the Apple Cup. And when we were there just
- 1:19:20Speaker 1: a week ago, Ashley doesn't know this. She didn't know
- 1:19:23Speaker 1: I was at Husky's Camp.
- 1:19:24Speaker 4: I mean, I knew you were there because I helped
- 1:19:26Speaker 4: set it up, but I don't know what happened while
- 1:19:29Speaker 4: you were there.
- 1:19:29Speaker 1: And you didn't care. No. Didn't care.
- 1:19:31Speaker 2: No, I was full Hawaii mode.
- 1:19:34Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. And I don't blame you. But Ryan Walters,
- 1:19:38Speaker 1: I asked him about the depth chart, and his answer was,
- 1:19:40Speaker 1: there is no depth chart. No depth chart. Like, everybody's
- 1:19:44Speaker 1: competing at all times. I don't have a depth chart. Oh, wow.
- 1:19:46Speaker 1: And then I said, what about Elenius Davis as he
- 1:19:48Speaker 1: walked by? And he goes, okay, he's a starter.
- 1:19:51Speaker 2: He's the one.
- 1:19:54Speaker 1: So I asked Coach Fish about it when he came
- 1:19:57Speaker 1: on with us the following day, and he said- I
- 1:20:00Speaker 1: have a depth chart. There are a lot of starters
- 1:20:04Speaker 1: locked in. Yesterday, he pretty much told Softie and Fane
- 1:20:07Speaker 1: that almost everything is locked in 10 days shy of
- 1:20:11Speaker 1: the start of the regular season. And it looks like
- 1:20:14Speaker 1: a lot of freshmen are going to be starting on
- 1:20:17Speaker 1: this football team during a season that's not a rebuilding season.
- 1:20:22Speaker 1: A season in which Coach Fish... And the entire program
- 1:20:26Speaker 1: is expecting to at least compete for a playoff spot
- 1:20:30Speaker 1: this coming year. That means 9-3 at the worst. That's
- 1:20:34Speaker 1: 10-2 is what's probably going to have to get you
- 1:20:38Speaker 1: into the playoffs. And he's going to be starting not one,
- 1:20:41Speaker 1: not two, like five, six freshmen on this football team
- 1:20:45Speaker 1: this year. Dick and Softy asked him yesterday about... how
- 1:20:51Speaker 1: different freshmen are that he could feel that comfortable starting
- 1:20:55Speaker 1: so many of them to begin a year.
- 1:20:58Speaker 7: I think the development that they're going through nowadays versus
- 1:21:01Speaker 7: back then is so unique. I mean, these guys are
- 1:21:04Speaker 7: playing football like all year round. They're not, you know,
- 1:21:07Speaker 7: you barely rarely are you finding the three-sport athlete that
- 1:21:09Speaker 7: is every three and a half months picking up a
- 1:21:11Speaker 7: different sport. The amount of football that's available to these kids,
- 1:21:17Speaker 7: the amount of guys that enroll early.
- 1:21:19Speaker 5: I mean, there was zero of that, right?
- 1:21:21Speaker 7: So now you've got all these kids coming in January.
- 1:21:23Speaker 7: So my sophomores are really 18 months into college. My
- 1:21:28Speaker 7: freshmen are six months already. They're not one week or
- 1:21:31Speaker 7: one month in going to training camp. And we got to,
- 1:21:35Speaker 7: I mean, the guys are ready to play. We're going
- 1:21:37Speaker 7: to play the best players. We don't really discriminate on
- 1:21:40Speaker 7: age here.
- 1:21:41Speaker 1: Well, I love that. If those are the best players,
- 1:21:44Speaker 1: I hope you're not keeping them out because they got
- 1:21:46Speaker 1: to pay their dues.
- 1:21:48Speaker 4: Right.
- 1:21:48Speaker 1: You know, put them on there. And I hear a
- 1:21:51Speaker 1: lot of those arguments. I do. And they sound reasonable.
- 1:21:55Speaker 1: They're here longer. They are preparing earlier in their lives
- 1:21:59Speaker 1: to play big-time football than what they did when we
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: grew up. Freshmen had to learn a few things once
- 1:22:07Speaker 1: upon a time. They're pretty much schooled, Ashley, as to
- 1:22:10Speaker 1: what to expect when they get to the collegiate level.
- 1:22:15Speaker 1: And Coach Fish is not going to hide behind whether
- 1:22:20Speaker 1: you're a first-year player. I don't even know we can
- 1:22:21Speaker 1: call them freshmen anymore. They're like first-year players, second-year players,
- 1:22:25Speaker 1: third-year players. he's not going to hide behind that. Best
- 1:22:28Speaker 1: guys are going to play. And it just turns out
- 1:22:29Speaker 1: we got a lot of freshmen that are apparently the
- 1:22:31Speaker 1: best guys.
- 1:22:32Speaker 4: Well, and it makes sense that now in this day
- 1:22:34Speaker 4: and age where we're at least acknowledging that this is
- 1:22:37Speaker 4: a business, you're not coming there to really be a
- 1:22:39Speaker 4: student athlete. You are coming there to be an athlete.
- 1:22:43Speaker 4: And then if you happen to be a student at
- 1:22:44Speaker 4: the same time, it's just a bonus, I suppose. But
- 1:22:49Speaker 4: just to play devil's advocate, I wonder if it worries
- 1:22:52Speaker 4: Husky fans that, that many of your best players are
- 1:22:56Speaker 4: so young? Because I would be a little worried. Like, well,
- 1:22:58Speaker 4: what about the rest of the guys that we had
- 1:23:00Speaker 4: on the team before?
- 1:23:00Speaker 1: I think you could hear it in Dick's voice last
- 1:23:03Speaker 1: night during the interview that he's a little bit worried
- 1:23:06Speaker 1: about starting that many freshmen. Almost this, could they all
- 1:23:11Speaker 1: possibly be ready to play? That sort of feeling like, really?
- 1:23:18Speaker 1: Six of Because that's about what we're looking at right now.
- 1:23:21Speaker 4: And I do think that they could be ready to
- 1:23:23Speaker 4: play because of all those things that Coach Fish stated.
- 1:23:26Speaker 2: I understand that.
- 1:23:26Speaker 4: You're more prepared now because you're coming in and you're
- 1:23:29Speaker 4: trying to make money and you're doing all these things.
- 1:23:31Speaker 4: But I just wonder, okay, so if six of them
- 1:23:35Speaker 4: are ready to start, then what was happening to our
- 1:23:39Speaker 4: team from last year? Why do we not have more
- 1:23:42Speaker 4: mature players that are more ready?
- 1:23:45Speaker 1: That's the exciting part of it because we do. We
- 1:23:47Speaker 1: do have more experience. I mean, Jed's going to have
- 1:23:49Speaker 1: more experience and more depth on this roster than he's
- 1:23:54Speaker 1: had in his short time here. Yeah. Just his third season.
- 1:23:57Speaker 1: This is going to be the deepest team and most
- 1:23:59Speaker 1: experienced team that he will have coached here at Washington.
- 1:24:05Speaker 1: It's just that all those freshmen are going out there
- 1:24:08Speaker 1: on the practice field, both in the spring and now
- 1:24:11Speaker 1: in training camp, and are saying, no, we're the better players.
- 1:24:14Speaker 5: Right.
- 1:24:15Speaker 1: Ramzak Frujan.
- 1:24:18Speaker 4: Yeah, Ramczak is a great.
- 1:24:19Speaker 2: Name, by the way.
- 1:24:19Speaker 1: It's a great name. I mean, I'm looking at our
- 1:24:22Speaker 1: lad's depth chart from at the beginning of training camp.
- 1:24:26Speaker 1: They've got him third string. He's going to start. I mean,
- 1:24:30Speaker 1: and it's not just that they're going to start. Cody
- 1:24:34Speaker 1: Green's playing left tackle as a true freshman. Derek Coleman-Brusa
- 1:24:39Speaker 1: is going to play defensive tackle and might be your
- 1:24:41Speaker 1: best pass rusher from day number one as a true freshman.
- 1:24:45Speaker 1: Dylan Robinson's hurt as a sophomore. And Jaron Jones has
- 1:24:49Speaker 1: impressed people so much, he's going to start as a freshman.
- 1:24:53Speaker 1: Jet even answered the question about who's going to end
- 1:24:55Speaker 1: up being your starting running back because that's been the
- 1:24:57Speaker 1: big camp battle for the Huskies. He said it last night,
- 1:25:01Speaker 1: Quade Carr. Now, he's not a true freshman, but he
- 1:25:04Speaker 1: did not play last year. He's a redshirt freshman. Quade
- 1:25:07Speaker 1: Carr looks like he's going to be the starter for
- 1:25:10Speaker 1: this team. Those are some big positions. Yeah, absolutely. That
- 1:25:13Speaker 1: you're going to hand over to players without experience whatsoever.
- 1:25:19Speaker 1: And yet, I think that's the part to get excited about.
- 1:25:24Speaker 1: Because I think he does have other options that are viable.
- 1:25:28Speaker 1: But all the freshmen are the better players in his eyes.
- 1:25:31Speaker 1: That's actually pretty exciting.
- 1:25:33Speaker 2: No, it is exciting.
- 1:25:34Speaker 4: Yeah, I just was, as I said, playing devil's advocate. Well,
- 1:25:37Speaker 4: you might wonder too, like, well, how is it that
- 1:25:40Speaker 4: these other guys couldn't Take over those positions.
- 1:25:45Speaker 2: Exciting that the freshmen did it.
- 1:25:46Speaker 1: Right. But to your point, you're going to have to
- 1:25:51Speaker 1: go 10-2 to make the playoffs.
- 1:25:52Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot to put on freshmen.
- 1:25:54Speaker 1: Alabama lost three games last year, and they got in
- 1:25:57Speaker 1: and shouldn't have.
- 1:25:58Speaker 5: Right.
- 1:25:58Speaker 1: But they got in.
- 1:25:59Speaker 2: Because they're Alabama.
- 1:26:00Speaker 1: Because they're Alabama. You're not going to get in because
- 1:26:02Speaker 1: you're Washington.
- 1:26:03Speaker 5: Right.
- 1:26:04Speaker 1: And so you're going to have to go 10-2. Yeah.
- 1:26:07Speaker 1: And that's going to be a Herculean task considering a
- 1:26:10Speaker 1: Big Ten schedule that is up against you. So these
- 1:26:13Speaker 1: guys better be ready because there's no way that you
- 1:26:15Speaker 1: can kick a game early that you should have won
- 1:26:19Speaker 1: on paper. Now, you don't really, sorry Coug fans, face
- 1:26:22Speaker 1: a great team for a while or even a very
- 1:26:27Speaker 1: good team for a while that looks like they should
- 1:26:30Speaker 1: be able to beat you. So by the time that
- 1:26:32Speaker 1: you do, Cody Green should have four games, five games
- 1:26:35Speaker 1: under his belt. Derek Coleman-Bruce will have five games under
- 1:26:39Speaker 1: his belt. Five starts, not just games. Five starts, getting snaps, snaps, snaps, snaps.
- 1:26:45Speaker 1: So at that point, I mean, I think people will
- 1:26:47Speaker 1: use the old cliche, well, they're not freshmen anymore. They
- 1:26:50Speaker 1: got five games under their belts. But on one hand, yes,
- 1:26:54Speaker 1: it's a little like you suck wind between your teeth. Yeah, exactly.
- 1:26:59Speaker 1: How many starting freshmen and you're planning on going 10-2
- 1:27:02Speaker 1: this year? Or you think you can go 10-2? And
- 1:27:04Speaker 1: on the other hand, it's like, You think you can
- 1:27:06Speaker 1: go 10-2 with all of these freshmen. Oh, well, I've
- 1:27:09Speaker 1: got to see this.
- 1:27:10Speaker 5: Right.
- 1:27:10Speaker 2: It is intriguing, for sure.
- 1:27:11Speaker 4: All right.
- 1:27:12Speaker 1: Coming up next on the radio program, the latest on
- 1:27:14Speaker 1: Leonard Williams, Sports Radio.
- 1:27:16Speaker 5: 93.3 KJR FM. All right.
- 1:27:30Speaker 1: Chuck Powell, Ashley Ryan with you. Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.
- 1:27:35Speaker 1: There was a major trade made this week with our
- 1:27:38Speaker 1: professional sports teams here in Seattle. One that even got
- 1:27:42Speaker 1: Anders Hurst's attention quite a bit yesterday. But we didn't
- 1:27:47Speaker 1: really break it down yesterday with Anders. We waited until
- 1:27:51Speaker 1: today so we could get somebody who knows soccer on
- 1:27:54Speaker 1: the show joining us now.
- 1:27:56Speaker 2: And his kid doesn't ruin Mariners games.
- 1:27:58Speaker 1: Joining us now is our own Jackson Feltz here on
- 1:28:02Speaker 1: the program to talk about this big deal. Is that
- 1:28:05Speaker 1: a fair introduction, Jackson?
- 1:28:08Speaker 6: Absolutely not. Andrew's nose balling. Andrew's nose ball.
- 1:28:17Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, I know he does. I know. I just
- 1:28:20Speaker 1: have to take my shots. Jackson, of course, host of
- 1:28:23Speaker 1: Sounders Weekly. So I don't know if I'm pronouncing this correctly,
- 1:28:28Speaker 1: but I'm going to give it a shot. Dejan Jevelicic. No,
- 1:28:32Speaker 1: let me try it again. Dejan Jevelicic, added this week
- 1:28:36Speaker 1: by the Sounders. Did I get the pronunciation right? first
- 1:28:40Speaker 1: and foremost?
- 1:28:42Speaker 6: Uh, same answer as the first question. Absolutely not. Uh,
- 1:28:45Speaker 6: Dejan Jovalic, Dejan Jovalic. Okay.
- 1:28:48Speaker 1: Dejan Jovalic.
- 1:28:49Speaker 5: All right.
- 1:28:50Speaker 1: So how good of a player are we talking about?
- 1:28:51Speaker 1: Cause he reads like a really good goal score that
- 1:28:55Speaker 1: this team could really use. It just seems strange to
- 1:28:58Speaker 1: be able to acquire him, uh, in the midst of
- 1:29:01Speaker 1: a down season at this stage in the year. So
- 1:29:04Speaker 1: tell us how this came together and what kind of
- 1:29:07Speaker 1: player that the Sounders acquired this week.
- 1:29:10Speaker 6: Yeah, he is a top five striker in all of
- 1:29:13Speaker 6: the entire league. Yeah, it's pretty massive. You know, what's
- 1:29:19Speaker 6: interesting is how this came about. I'll be honest, Chuck,
- 1:29:23Speaker 6: I'm taking a massive victory lap this entire week because
- 1:29:26Speaker 6: I have been on Jovovich to Seattle for three months.
- 1:29:30Speaker 6: About three months ago, when the Sounders, about in May,
- 1:29:33Speaker 6: when the Sounders were going through all these scoring issues,
- 1:29:37Speaker 6: On my Sounders Weekly show, I started pressing and asking
- 1:29:40Speaker 6: so many different analysts and experts, why not day on
- 1:29:44Speaker 6: to the Sounders? Yovulets to the Sounders makes so much sense.
- 1:29:48Speaker 6: Kansas City is having a terrible year. They are seemingly
- 1:29:51Speaker 6: wanting to rebuild with a new GM, David Lee, and
- 1:29:54Speaker 6: new ownership. Wouldn't they want a ton of cash influx
- 1:29:58Speaker 6: to just tear from the ground and just rebuild? And
- 1:30:02Speaker 6: I kept asking these questions again. And what I kept
- 1:30:05Speaker 6: hearing from experts and analysts and everybody pretty much said
- 1:30:08Speaker 6: the exact same thing to me starting three months ago.
- 1:30:11Speaker 6: Kansas City wouldn't do that. He's their best player by far.
- 1:30:15Speaker 6: He's their only productive scorer. He's the only player actually
- 1:30:18Speaker 6: doing anything worth a damn for Kansas City. Why would
- 1:30:21Speaker 6: they give him up? And I kept pressing it. And
- 1:30:24Speaker 6: I said, well, no, I mean, if it's enough money,
- 1:30:27Speaker 6: if it's enough cash, they might just do it. And
- 1:30:31Speaker 6: turns out, as I'm in these conversations, that is exactly
- 1:30:35Speaker 6: what General Manager Craig Weibel was doing with the Sounders.
- 1:30:38Speaker 6: He was knocking on Kansas City's door. He's calling them
- 1:30:41Speaker 6: over and over. They went from giving him, and this
- 1:30:43Speaker 6: is from Craig Weibel directly, they went from giving him
- 1:30:46Speaker 6: a flat-out no and hang up the phone to, well, maybe,
- 1:30:51Speaker 6: and then suddenly from a maybe, you kick the door
- 1:30:54Speaker 6: a little bit further, you put your foot in, you say, no, no, no, no, no, no, wait, wait,
- 1:30:58Speaker 6: if you're giving us a maybe, Let's continue talking here.
- 1:31:01Speaker 6: And as Kansas City's season continued to go down the
- 1:31:04Speaker 6: drain because they pretty much had nobody outside of Jovo,
- 1:31:07Speaker 6: which the maybes became a lot more maybeable and $ 6
- 1:31:12Speaker 6: million ended up sounding like enough to make it happen.
- 1:31:15Speaker 1: Wow. Wow. Crazy. So I was going to originally ask you,
- 1:31:19Speaker 1: is this sort of a Luis Castillo trade, like a
- 1:31:23Speaker 1: piece to get you over the top star type player,
- 1:31:26Speaker 1: or is it a, Josh Naylor, somebody that might be
- 1:31:30Speaker 1: able to be the final thing this season? Or is
- 1:31:34Speaker 1: it Jorge Polanco, where it's somebody that just fills a
- 1:31:38Speaker 1: big need on the team? But after hearing you describe that,
- 1:31:41Speaker 1: it feels like a Randy Orozarena trade. If you remember
- 1:31:44Speaker 1: from a couple of years ago where the team wasn't
- 1:31:47Speaker 1: playing well, they didn't have a great shot of overcoming
- 1:31:51Speaker 1: their struggles, and yet you got a guy that certainly
- 1:31:55Speaker 1: fills a need makes a little bit of money, but
- 1:31:59Speaker 1: you're going to be able to hold on to him
- 1:32:01Speaker 1: for the next few years when you believe you're going
- 1:32:03Speaker 1: to be healthy and competing for the next two years.
- 1:32:06Speaker 1: Is that about it? Is this kind of a Randy
- 1:32:09Speaker 1: Orozarena-type trade here, or is it something more than that?
- 1:32:13Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd say it's bigger than Orozarena. I mean, we're
- 1:32:17Speaker 6: talking about... Listen, we're not talking Aaron Judge Shohei Otani,
- 1:32:21Speaker 6: but we're talking a slight step down from Aaron Judge
- 1:32:24Speaker 6: Shohei Otani. I mean, this is a guy... over the
- 1:32:27Speaker 6: last couple years. Let's go all the way back to
- 1:32:30Speaker 6: his time with the LA Galaxy. He is a top
- 1:32:34Speaker 6: five scorer each season in Major League Soccer, whether it's
- 1:32:37Speaker 6: been for Los Angeles, whether it's been for Kansas City.
- 1:32:40Speaker 6: This is a top five offensive threat in this league,
- 1:32:45Speaker 6: where when he gets the ball anywhere remotely near him,
- 1:32:48Speaker 6: he can score with his right foot, he can score
- 1:32:50Speaker 6: with his left foot, he can score with his head.
- 1:32:52Speaker 6: He's 5'11, but he plays like he's 6'3. He's extremely
- 1:32:56Speaker 6: physical and has so many different dimensions to his game.
- 1:33:00Speaker 6: I mean, the thing with Jovovich is he instantly takes
- 1:33:03Speaker 6: the Sounders from being, I think, a weaker offensive team
- 1:33:07Speaker 6: to being an above-average offensive team. It's that dramatic. It's
- 1:33:12Speaker 6: one of those moves where kind of what our circles
- 1:33:15Speaker 6: of Sounder reporters are sort of saying right now is,
- 1:33:19Speaker 6: all right, you know, if Seattle had gotten into the playoffs,
- 1:33:22Speaker 6: if they had, you know, come back from this long
- 1:33:24Speaker 6: losing streak and they had snuck in, yeah, they might
- 1:33:26Speaker 6: be able to win a series, but, you know, they
- 1:33:28Speaker 6: just don't have the offensive horses to get you any further.
- 1:33:32Speaker 6: And it's gone from that to, oh, they could absolutely
- 1:33:35Speaker 6: make MLS Cup. It's that dramatic of a shift. So
- 1:33:40Speaker 6: I would say it's bigger than Randy. It's bigger than Naylor.
- 1:33:43Speaker 6: because it is a top offensive weapon in this entire league.
- 1:33:49Speaker 1: Wow, that does set off some tells right there. That's
- 1:33:53Speaker 1: an impressive little breakdown there. So you just said that.
- 1:33:58Speaker 1: I mean, you stole the words right out of my mouth.
- 1:34:01Speaker 1: Does this take them over the top? I mean, it's
- 1:34:04Speaker 1: been a very frustrating year, and you do wonder if
- 1:34:08Speaker 1: you got him in time to kind of fix this
- 1:34:11Speaker 1: thing this losing skid that they're on. But you believe
- 1:34:16Speaker 1: this is just like instant success here by adding this
- 1:34:20Speaker 1: to the mix.
- 1:34:22Speaker 6: Yeah, there's no doubt in my mind. It's just kind
- 1:34:25Speaker 6: of even an afterthought. The Sounders are going to be
- 1:34:27Speaker 6: in the playoffs. They're right now only a couple points
- 1:34:30Speaker 6: behind the playoff line. They sit outside the picture right now,
- 1:34:33Speaker 6: but they're going to get in for sure. I look
- 1:34:35Speaker 6: at the teams above them. The Portland Timbers are above
- 1:34:38Speaker 6: them right now. But what's funny is in the last
- 1:34:40Speaker 6: 48 hours, the Sounders add Dejan Jovalic, a top five
- 1:34:44Speaker 6: striker in the league. And the Portland Timbers sold one
- 1:34:48Speaker 6: of probably their best player in Kevin Kelsey, the guy
- 1:34:52Speaker 6: who scored against Seattle a.
- 1:34:53Speaker 1: Number of times.
- 1:34:54Speaker 6: So Portland loses their top guy. Seattle gets one of
- 1:34:57Speaker 6: their new top guys. So Portland's going to fall off.
- 1:35:01Speaker 6: Seattle's going to jump them easily. Seattle's going to jump,
- 1:35:03Speaker 6: I think, a couple teams. And then, Chuck, I go
- 1:35:05Speaker 6: back to 2016. In 2016, this team added Nicholas Ladero,
- 1:35:11Speaker 6: and they snuck into the playoffs, they got a decent seed,
- 1:35:15Speaker 6: and then they ran all the way to the MLS
- 1:35:17Speaker 6: Cup Championship. The way it works at MLS, it's not
- 1:35:21Speaker 6: often you see the number one seed just dominate straight
- 1:35:25Speaker 6: through and win the whole thing. That doesn't happen very often.
- 1:35:28Speaker 6: I know it's happened a little more recently in the
- 1:35:29Speaker 6: last couple of years, but over the last decade, it's
- 1:35:32Speaker 6: very much a rare thing. So for Seattle, it's just
- 1:35:36Speaker 6: get in. You have a strong enough defense where you
- 1:35:39Speaker 6: can ride that on the road in road games if
- 1:35:41Speaker 6: you need to. But overall, it doesn't matter if it's
- 1:35:44Speaker 6: an 8-seed, 7-seed, 6-seed. If Seattle's in the dance, and
- 1:35:49Speaker 6: the important part is if they're healthy, and they're getting
- 1:35:52Speaker 6: much healthier. Christian Roldan, Jordan Morris, both back this week.
- 1:35:56Speaker 6: Jovulic out of the squad. Ferrer will come back in
- 1:35:58Speaker 6: a couple months. But even he's kind of one of
- 1:36:00Speaker 6: those accessory pieces now, You get Yamar back soon enough.
- 1:36:05Speaker 6: The team is getting healthy, and if they're healthy come
- 1:36:07Speaker 6: playoff time, Chuck, I really don't think it matters what
- 1:36:10Speaker 6: seed they are. They're going to be able to make
- 1:36:12Speaker 6: a run at least to the West Final if they're healthy.
- 1:36:15Speaker 1: Man, last time we had you on, and it was
- 1:36:17Speaker 1: toward the tail end of the World Cup, you didn't
- 1:36:21Speaker 1: even want to talk about the Sounders because they lost
- 1:36:23Speaker 1: to the Timbers 5-1. They have not won a match since,
- 1:36:27Speaker 1: and yet it sounds like the— Clouds completely lifted with
- 1:36:32Speaker 1: this trade, like the whole world got flipped upside down here.
- 1:36:36Speaker 1: That's the impact that we've got from this player. That's amazing.
- 1:36:41Speaker 6: It really is kind of that simple. It's the health
- 1:36:43Speaker 6: getting better. I mean, Christian Roldan coming back is sort
- 1:36:47Speaker 6: of the answer to all problems.
- 1:36:48Speaker 1: He is.
- 1:36:50Speaker 6: just the absolute, you know, leader of the engine room.
- 1:36:53Speaker 6: He's the motor of this entire team. Him going back
- 1:36:56Speaker 6: in fixes so many problems. But then again, you know,
- 1:36:59Speaker 6: the biggest problem all season has been goal scoring. So
- 1:37:01Speaker 6: you add that weapon in Jovovich. I mean, it's really
- 1:37:04Speaker 6: hard not to be extremely positive about this team right now.
- 1:37:07Speaker 6: And yeah, like it'll take a little bit for Jovovich
- 1:37:10Speaker 6: to get centered, but he's a striker and, and strikers
- 1:37:13Speaker 6: are a lot easier to work into a team than
- 1:37:16Speaker 6: any other position because he's It's just, hey, get the
- 1:37:19Speaker 6: ball to me. I want the ball on my left foot.
- 1:37:22Speaker 6: I want the ball on my right foot. I want
- 1:37:23Speaker 6: it spinning in. I want it spinning out. It's as
- 1:37:25Speaker 6: simple as that. And if midfielders can follow what he wants,
- 1:37:30Speaker 6: which they can, Paul Rothrock, Rusnak, Christian, Jordan, Snyder, Brunel,
- 1:37:34Speaker 6: they're all smart players. They can feed him the ball.
- 1:37:37Speaker 6: And if they do, good things are going to happen.
- 1:37:39Speaker 6: The Sounders will get in the playoffs. And if they're healthy,
- 1:37:41Speaker 6: they're going to make a big run like they always do.
- 1:37:43Speaker 1: Well, get your Jovelich jerseys right now. No reason to wait.
- 1:37:48Speaker 1: All right, so they play tomorrow. Give us just a
- 1:37:52Speaker 1: quick little breakdown of what you expect and whether or
- 1:37:54Speaker 1: not Jovalich is going to play or at least provide
- 1:37:57Speaker 1: a spark to the team even if he doesn't play.
- 1:38:01Speaker 6: Yeah, Brian Schmetzer, head coach, guaranteed Jovovich will be starting
- 1:38:06Speaker 6: when the team faces Chicago on Saturday at Lumen. 1.30
- 1:38:10Speaker 6: kickoff at Lumen on Saturday. And it's a tough game.
- 1:38:14Speaker 6: Chicago is a really good team. They're coached by former
- 1:38:16Speaker 6: United States men's national team coach Greg Berhalter. They brought
- 1:38:20Speaker 6: in one of the best strikers of our era across
- 1:38:23Speaker 6: the entire world, Robert Lewandowski. He is a little bit older,
- 1:38:28Speaker 6: but he's still very dangerous. So it's one of those
- 1:38:31Speaker 6: high-profile games. It's going to be a tough test. And
- 1:38:35Speaker 6: in Jovovich's first game, I'm sure not expecting a win
- 1:38:38Speaker 6: or anything against a good team with trying to incorporate
- 1:38:42Speaker 6: a new striker into the fold. But I tell you what,
- 1:38:45Speaker 6: I think it's going to be exciting because it's going
- 1:38:47Speaker 6: to be two teams right now that have, I think,
- 1:38:49Speaker 6: an interest in offense, star players on both ends. I'm
- 1:38:55Speaker 6: expecting fireworks coming up on Saturday at 1.30, and hopefully
- 1:39:00Speaker 6: we continue to get this beautiful weather and the rain
- 1:39:02Speaker 6: stays away for a little bit.
- 1:39:04Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds like the most excited you've been for
- 1:39:06Speaker 1: a Sounders match in a while, maybe since the playoffs
- 1:39:09Speaker 1: last year.
- 1:39:10Speaker 6: Just a little bit, yeah.
- 1:39:11Speaker 5: All right.
- 1:39:12Speaker 1: I love it.
- 1:39:12Speaker 5: I love it.
- 1:39:13Speaker 1: Thank you, man. Awesome as always. We chose the right guy.
- 1:39:16Speaker 1: Thank you. We appreciate it.
- 1:39:19Speaker 5: Thanks, Chuck. Appreciate it.
- 1:39:20Speaker 1: Jackson Feltz joining us right here on the radio program,
- 1:39:24Speaker 1: host of Sounders Weekly. He'll be there for the pregame
- 1:39:27Speaker 1: show tomorrow. Sounds like 1 o'clock, play-by-play from Chicago, also
- 1:39:32Speaker 1: provided here on KJR. So, yeah. Boy, that's a 180
- 1:39:37Speaker 1: turn from the way that people were feeling about Sounders
- 1:39:40Speaker 1: soccer to suddenly getting healthier. Got enough time. You're not
- 1:39:44Speaker 1: that far out of the playoff bubble. And now you add,
- 1:39:48Speaker 1: you know, Damn near an Aaron Judge. Good night, nurse.
- 1:39:52Speaker 1: Good night. It happens fast in the MLS. So certainly
- 1:39:55Speaker 1: worth checking out tomorrow. Coming up next on our radio program,
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