Latest / New Teacher Talk / Ep 182: How to "Call Out" a Student with Love and Care
Transcript
- My name is Bianca Tolentino,
- and I'm a ninth grade English teacher in Southern
- California.
- Today,
- I'm going to talk about calling students out with love and
- care.
- At the end,
- I'll be sharing a resource from Learning for Justice that
- can also help support your development in this.
- First things first, what is a callout?
- Well,
- you may have heard of this term before in pop culture,
- but what it boils down to is that a callout is a criticism.
- Now, in the classroom,
- we are the biggest advocates and discipliners that enforce
- the expectations that we have for our students.
- And in the classroom,
- that also means that we have the attention on us at all
- times.
- When we are criticizing a student,
- when we are redirecting behavior,
- that means that it's not just that student that's listening
- to us, but everyone else is too.
- That means that we have to address our callouts with tact
- and care.
- These callouts can be anything from addressing behavior
- that needs to be changed immediately to addressing speech
- like bigotry or bullying or hate speech that may pop up in
- the classroom.
- Over time in pop culture,
- callouts are usually seen as things that you do or things
- that you say to bring people down in order to take down
- maybe an entity or a person that isn't doing something
- right.
- But really, at the core of a callout is accountability.
- You expected somebody to do something and they didn't.
- And in the classroom, I operate on a philosophy of love.
- I must always approach a callout with the idea that I love
- the person that I am addressing the problems to.
- And to be very explicit about my philosophy,
- I chose this profession because I believe in the best of
- people.
- I believe that learning is the best way that we can create
- more people who are caring and empathetic and who are going
- to bring about the best of society.
- But we also know that that kind of good change,
- that kind of changing the world mindset comes from small,
- consistent, and persistent redirection.
- It's one of the most energy taxing things about being a
- teacher.
- The fact that I care so much about my students in my
- classroom and the way that the classroom is run is
- exhausting.
- And I want to affirm that as a part of the experience for
- you, especially as a new teacher.
- Still,
- that is a professional commitment that I know that I have
- put myself to is the well-being of my students and the well
- -being of their learning environment.
- So please make sure that you are approaching these students
- both as who they are,
- which are children who are still developing as people who
- are still learning things like executive function and
- impulse control and all of the other things that students
- will still be developing as, you know, children.
- Now,
- I believe that a call-out is a sincere form of showing students
- love because at its core,
- learning is a cycle of accountability.
- Accountability is how lessons are truly learned.
- Because when you're accountable,
- you are being held to a standard that you have previously
- either set up or maintained, right?
- You were supposed to use what you know to act accordingly.
- And a call-out is when you notice that that behavior is not
- aligning with what has been established before.
- A classroom is an ever changing system that needs
- consistent monitoring to maintain its equilibrium.
- Again,
- calling back to the fact that being in the classroom is
- exhausting.
- A part of that is making sure that the system runs smoothly
- and calling out those moments of disruption,
- calling out those moments where the equilibrium is no
- longer being maintained.
- It's necessary.
- Now, to be honest with you,
- when I was first starting out in teaching,
- I remember being scared of the idea of a power struggle.
- I was not a confrontational person before I started
- teaching,
- and I knew one of the things I had to work on was my
- ability to advocate.
- And that is how I look at it when I am doing my call-outs.
- It is a form of advocacy.
- In my authority,
- I also have the most power to protect the students who are
- most vulnerable in those situations.
- That did mean I had to learn how to properly address
- negative student behavior when I hear it and sense it right
- away.
- This is especially important because students need to see
- you advocate for proper behavior in the classroom,
- both small and large.
- That is another form of consistency that students need
- modeled.
- They need to see us be the empathetic advocates that they
- should also want to be.
- One of the resources that I personally still use to this
- day is learning for Justices Speak Up at School guidebook,
- where they have a framework on how to address those moments
- of bigotry that you hear in the moment.
- This really helped somebody like me who wasn't used to
- confrontation.
- I wasn't used to knowing what it looked like in order to
- advocate for difficult things, or well,
- at least I did not know the flow of it explicitly.
- I already know that I advocate every single day.
- I know that this is a part of my job,
- but sometimes we need to explicitly list it out for us.
- Now,
- the four components of the Speak Up at School framework are
- interrupt, question, educate, and echo.
- In interruption,
- you must speak up against every bigoted and prejudiced
- remark.
- Every single time you see something, say something.
- The interruption is important because you are showing the
- students what is happening right now is not okay.
- That is the point of an interruption.
- So you must stop the behavior immediately.
- Then you can question the behavior.
- Now, sometimes when you're in the moment,
- if you need to move on from something,
- if you're addressing a behavior,
- this might not be the time to bring up a question because
- you want to redirect that energy.
- But if a student had said something,
- especially if it was something steeped in bigotry,
- you have to question them because you need to show them
- that what they said was not okay.
- It is something to question.
- It is something to be interrogated.
- It's not something to just let slide because if you don't
- question it,
- that means you must accept it as a part of the normal in
- some way.
- The next part of it is educate.
- And this is especially important if this is the first time
- you've ever heard the bigotry happen inside of your
- classroom.
- This is a moment for you to bring up why you don't say
- certain things or why certain beliefs are harmful.
- You need to do the education part because this is the part
- that reminds students that they are in the room with other
- human beings,
- that they are in a room where their words matter,
- where their actions matter.
- And lastly, of course,
- a call out is stronger when there are more people involved,
- especially if you are not always the first one to call
- somebody out.
- Sometimes the power that you have as a teacher is simply
- through the echo,
- which is the last component of this framework.
- It usually happens, you know,
- when other students also notice that behavior is disrupting
- the ecosystem that you've set up.
- It is powerful to be the voice that echoes the interruption
- because you were showing the student that originally
- disrupted the classroom that this person is not alone in
- calling them out.
- If the whole environment is being disrupted by this one
- person's actions,
- it is also beneficial for other people in the environment
- to call that out, to speak up against it.
- Now,
- I'm going to give you two examples from my own classroom
- and pointing out the moments where I use this framework to
- help me as well.
- So the first call out that I want to talk about was a
- behavior call out.
- So first thing,
- a student was displaying aggressive horseplay behavior with
- his friends during an activity when the class was walking
- around.
- So everyone was moving, we had the chairs pushed in,
- we wanted to make sure there was enough space for everyone.
- He was creating large grand gestures that were getting
- close to hitting other students.
- And I had to tell him multiple times to stop.
- And I noticed that there was a ring of students around him,
- like there's literally students did not want to be near him
- because of his actions.
- So I had to interrupt first.
- And instead of questioning,
- I went to interrupting and then pointing out what his
- behavior is doing pointing out the consequence.
- I said, hey, student,
- you're literally about to hurt people around you.
- Pay attention to who's around you, please.
- So it gave him that moment to pause because in the
- interruption,
- in him noticing that I needed to speak to him,
- he was snapped out of that moment of horseplay.
- And in that time, he was able to look around.
- He realized it was just him.
- It was just his friend.
- And everyone was looking at him and he noticed the space
- around him.
- He was able to have that moment of reflection because of
- the interruption.
- And in that moment, when I decided to tell him, hey,
- you're going to hurt the people around you,
- that is also educating him of the consequences of his
- actions.
- And I also went back to focusing on the positive aspect of
- it,
- which is let's maintain the equilibrium of the classroom.
- Pay attention to who's around you.
- You do not want to hurt anybody else.
- It is not about him and his behavior and why he is a good
- or bad person.
- It is about the fact that there are other people who are
- not involved in what he is doing that are now having to
- face a consequence that they did not choose because of an
- action he was doing.
- It helps center the classroom and the other students rather
- than your emotions or your expectations of what that
- student should be acting like.
- Another call out that comes to mind is a hate speech call
- out.
- There was a student that was using the R-slur in my class
- really loudly.
- I immediately interrupted my lesson to address it.
- I told him, there's no reason to use that word.
- There's plenty of others available to you.
- Now, in that moment, the student was starting to argue.
- He said, why can't I use it?
- I just wanted to say that it was stupid.
- And that is when I was able to start educating him because
- I didn't have to question why he used the word, right?
- He just told me he was trying to say that something was
- stupid.
- So I had the opportunity to educate him on the background
- on the R-slur,
- how it used to be used to clinically isolate people of a
- certain cognitive ability.
- People were treated sub-humanly when this word was applied
- to them.
- And I told him,
- your desire for using a word is not greater than the pain
- it causes to other people,
- especially those who have had that word used against them.
- In that moment, I was able to educate him that one,
- not only is this word used as a slur,
- so it's literally a word whose only job is to be
- derogatory, is to be one used for pain, one to dehumanize,
- but that other people in the classroom,
- when they hear him use that word,
- it shows them that he cares more about his feeling and his
- ability to say certain things than to simply be a decent
- human being with character.
- And I knew that that student in particular was not trying
- to be harmful in what he was saying.
- He wasn't even trying to be shocking in what he was saying.
- He wanted to use a word with the same amount of punch,
- with the same amount of energy as the R-slur.
- And we were able to talk about that afterwards.
- We were able to address that afterwards.
- Now, did that fix him saying the slur all the time?
- No, but it was a really good first moment.
- It was a really good first interruption because he did
- significantly drop the use of it throughout the school
- year.
- And that's what we want to see, right?
- We want to see those slow but sure moments of growth for
- our students.
- So to conclude again,
- call-outs come from those clear expectations,
- the ones that you've already established from the beginning
- of the year,
- the ones you were already reinforcing as you were coming
- back into the classroom,
- the ones that you were reminding students of every single
- day.
- That is where this all comes from.
- It comes from the love that you have for your students,
- the love that you have for making sure that their learning
- environment is democratic so that they can all learn and
- they all have the opportunity to better themselves in their
- learning.
- So I encourage both you and your students to have the grace
- as you are readjusting and as you are developing these
- skills or maybe you're re-sharpening them after you come
- back from winter break, give yourselves grace.
- And sometimes that grace looks like trying again and again
- without holding anger or resentment towards yourself or
- your students when you are simply trying to learn.
- We are all going through our own learning pits.
- We are all trying to climb our own mountains,
- but at the end of it all,
- that accountability that you get to enforce as the teacher
- in the classroom is a powerful tool in making sure that
- your students feel safe and that you maintain an
- environment where every student can and will learn.
- Sending you lots of energy for the second leg of the school
- year.
- And I hope you find tons of moments of joy to share with
- your students this week.
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