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Don't lie girl! 7 Red Flags You Need Male Validation! | Maintaining Frame 171 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio.
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  Speaker 2: My name is Brian.
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  Speaker 1: I'm here with Alison and this is maintaining frame number
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  Speaker 1: one seventy one. Don't lie, girls, seven red flags you
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  Speaker 1: need male val You need what seven red flags you need?
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  Speaker 2: Male validation?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? You're a pick me?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, basically, I mean, like, let's say it's simply seven
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  Speaker 4: red flags. You're a handmaiden of the patriarchy or you're
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  Speaker 4: a pick me, right, because you know, every every woman
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  Speaker 4: deserves to have to arrange her life in whatever way
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  Speaker 4: she wants, except this way in terms of pleasing men
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  Speaker 4: in any capacity or caring about them. Liberation as yes,
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  Speaker 4: ask risk. Yeah, read the fine print, ladies, not quite liberation. Hey,
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  Speaker 4: this is my You.
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  Speaker 4: This is mine? Okay, all right, right, is making appearance.
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  Speaker 1: but we're going to be listening to it because I
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  Speaker 1: can't look at it anyway.
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  Speaker 2: But it's.
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  Speaker 1: From a medium. Sorry, but if you relate to these
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  Speaker 1: seven physical signs, you might be hooked on male validation.
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  Speaker 1: Don't lie, girl, I know you're not okay.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, can I just point something out, just right off
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  Speaker 4: the bat. They're not talking about like men respecting or approving,
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  Speaker 4: like not just like respect women, but for example, respecting
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  Speaker 4: your abilities with your job, or respecting talents or skills.
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  Speaker 4: When they talk about being hooked on male approval or
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  Speaker 4: we're just caring about men because they're your fellow citizens
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  Speaker 4: and passengers on this great adventure called planet Earth. No,
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  Speaker 4: they're not talking about that. This woman is talking about
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  Speaker 4: hooked on being men's attention and men's sexual desire. So
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  Speaker 4: this has nothing to do with any kind of platonic
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  Speaker 4: resonance emotional resonance with men. It's all just are there
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  Speaker 4: eyeballs on you?
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  Speaker 3: And do you make their dick hard? That's it.
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  Speaker 4: I just wanted to point that out because it's not.
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  Speaker 4: It's I've read the lit well, maybe I should the spoilers.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry guys, if you were thinking it was going to
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  Speaker 4: be some deep philosophical treaty about a gape, I think
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  Speaker 4: it's called a gape or or platonic love or mutual
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  Speaker 4: respect or bring your brother's keeper. No, it's not. It's
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  Speaker 4: all just do they pay attention to me? Do I
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  Speaker 4: make their dick card?
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  Speaker 3: And then it's like.
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  Speaker 4: So, and I get the sense that that is the
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  Speaker 4: entire world of this human even though she denies that
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  Speaker 4: she is fixated.
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  Speaker 3: Upon this anyway.
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  Speaker 5: Sorry, but if you relate to these seven physical signs,
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  Speaker 5: you might be hooked on male validation. Don't lie, girl,
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  Speaker 5: I know you're not okay. By Renie one point five
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  Speaker 5: k likes. Call me Amy Dunn minus the murder, the
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  Speaker 5: hair dye, and the crazy, because I'm about to rant
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  Speaker 5: and warn you about the silent ways you're screwing yourself
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  Speaker 5: over chasing male validation.
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  Speaker 3: I'm missing a reference is Amy.
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  Speaker 1: Amy Dunne is the main character from Gone so literally
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  Speaker 1: like the worst person you would think a woman would
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  Speaker 1: want to compare herself to, and she does. Yeah, Amy
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  Speaker 1: Dunn is the is the protagonist.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah Gone Girl, Yeah yeah, I know. Some people say
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  Speaker 4: that it's like women comparing themselves to Amy Dunn, is
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  Speaker 4: the same as men comparing themselves to Patrick Swayze and Bateman. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Patrick Bateman in American Psycho. However, there are some key differences.
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  Speaker 4: I think most of the time they're just identifying with
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  Speaker 4: his sense of nihilism, not his murderous rampage. And also
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  Speaker 4: Patrick was a sort of a social justice warrior type
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  Speaker 4: from what I remember. Maybe it was just intended to
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  Speaker 4: be humorous, but I.
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  Speaker 1: Think that, like, actually, it's funny you should bring up
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  Speaker 1: American Psycho. I just did a discussion about American Psycho
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  Speaker 1: for another guy's channel, well because he wanted to talk
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  Speaker 1: about movies and he enjoys my insights, and I think
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  Speaker 1: that it's funny that you should mention it because I
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  Speaker 1: think most of the time when men claim that they
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  Speaker 1: relate to Patrick Bateman, they're it's mostly ironic because they
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  Speaker 1: know that the writer and the director was trying to
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  Speaker 1: say something about men, and they were using him as
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  Speaker 1: the vehicle. They were like, this is you, and they're like, okay, then,
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  Speaker 1: yeah it is, and so they're just sort of going
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  Speaker 1: along with it because they're being told, you know, this
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  Speaker 1: is you, and so they're adopting the Patrick batemanisms ironically
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  Speaker 1: in order to piss people off, because the idea is
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  Speaker 1: to shame men into some kind of behavior or make them,
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  Speaker 1: you know, ashamed of who they are, and so they're like, nah,
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  Speaker 1: we're not going to do that. So I think most
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  Speaker 1: of the you know, the meaning of Patrick Bateman and
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  Speaker 1: American Psycho is ironic and tongue in cheek, but there
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  Speaker 1: is You're right about the the nihilism, like the sort
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  Speaker 1: of like desire to connect that he has as a character,
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  Speaker 1: and also the social justice thing, because there is a
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  Speaker 1: scene in the movie where he goes on a bit
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  Speaker 1: he's like with his coworkers and friends, like basically people
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  Speaker 1: he associates with, and they're talking about like how they
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  Speaker 1: should they can make the world better, and he goes
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  Speaker 1: on a rant on all the things that we need
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  Speaker 1: to do, but he doesn't believe any of it. He's
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  Speaker 1: just saying it because he wants to fit in. So
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  Speaker 1: that this is another thing that is That's why I
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  Speaker 1: think that character is a lot deeper than they be done,
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  Speaker 1: because you know, he's actually speaking to something real, Like
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  Speaker 1: we live in a world where everyone expects you as
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  Speaker 1: a man to say to have certain beliefs and say
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  Speaker 1: certain things. And Bateman, because he wants to fit in,
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  Speaker 1: he just does those things and it makes him like
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  Speaker 1: acceptable even though he's a psychopath. So like you know,
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  Speaker 1: and this is actually like kind of the male feminist, right,
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  Speaker 1: like minus the muscles and the height and the good
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  Speaker 1: looks and everything, but like well.
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  Speaker 2: The other stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's true though, like he like he checks
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  Speaker 1: all the boxes. So yeah, Amy done is just she's
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  Speaker 1: just the worst. I don't know what else to say
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  Speaker 1: about that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, there's also ambiguity in American Psycho. You don't know
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  Speaker 4: if he actually kills anyone.
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  Speaker 1: A very unreliable narrator.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a very unreliable narrator. You also see the
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  Speaker 4: hoof prints of him descending into psychosis, whereas Amy Dunne
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  Speaker 4: is just a psychopath. There's no excuse for what she did.
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  Speaker 1: And he literally destroyed a guy's life. Like the worst
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  Speaker 1: thing American Psycho that Pat Bateman's guildea is killing a
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  Speaker 1: couple of prostitutes.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe out.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe that's the question. We don't even know, Like
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  Speaker 4: it's not. The narrative is so fractured that we don't
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  Speaker 4: know what he did. It looks more like he's having
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  Speaker 4: like a schizophrenic break from reality more than anything.
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  Speaker 3: So it's.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's a bit.
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  Speaker 3: Of a different message.
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  Speaker 4: And I noticed that they identify with the cool girl speech,
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  Speaker 4: how you have to be chill and and all of
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  Speaker 4: that stuff. And and but of course the.
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  Speaker 1: Essentially, yeah, the idea that men have like something they'd
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  Speaker 1: like to see in women. That's what because you know,
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  Speaker 1: the cool girl is basically a woman. They would say,
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  Speaker 1: it's a series of contradictions that you know, women can't
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  Speaker 1: possibly meet. But the truth is is that men just
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  Speaker 1: want women that bring them peace. Yeah, well they don't
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  Speaker 1: want them to.
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  Speaker 4: That I was going to make was that she's talking
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  Speaker 4: about and she's projecting this at a woman, and she's
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  Speaker 4: talking about how this woman's just behaving in this.
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  Speaker 3: Way in order to in order to be accepted by.
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  Speaker 4: Men, and which is really funny because she's essentially a
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  Speaker 4: reptile in a sheep skin pretending to be a human being,
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  Speaker 4: not just a cool but pretending to have like human
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  Speaker 4: you know, emotional attachments and human understanding, and when she
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  Speaker 4: is actually a predatory reptile and she's she's looking at
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  Speaker 4: this woman and saying, oh, she's look at her. She's
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  Speaker 4: laughing and she's happy, and she's a cool girl. She's
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  Speaker 4: putting it on for a man. And then if the
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  Speaker 4: camera turns and you can see it's two women in
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  Speaker 4: a car. So the overall message of that is not actually, oh,
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  Speaker 4: how horrible it is to be a cool girl. The
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  Speaker 4: overall message is actually pointing back at Amy Dunn for
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  Speaker 4: her hatred of men and her distaste for men, and
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  Speaker 4: the cool girl concept is it's ridiculous. But I guess
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  Speaker 4: we're gonna go a little bit further into it as
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  Speaker 4: we go into.
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  Speaker 1: This article, So all right, let's do it.
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  Speaker 5: Male validation is almost like a drug for many. Sometimes
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  Speaker 5: it's really subtle, it's obvious, but when you start craving
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  Speaker 5: it too much, it shows not just in your behavior
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  Speaker 5: but in your body. You feel drained, anxious, restless, and
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  Speaker 5: half the time you don't even realize why. Doesn't matter
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  Speaker 5: what your age is. You could be a twenty one
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  Speaker 5: year old naive college girl or a fifty eight year
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  Speaker 5: old beautiful woman. If you're still stuck in this toxic loop,
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  Speaker 5: it's time to break free, because it's not just in
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  Speaker 5: your head anymore. It's in your posture, your habits, your sleep,
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  Speaker 5: your energy, and it fucks you up more than you think.
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  Speaker 4: What I you have to understand that when we look,
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  Speaker 4: when we open the window and look into this world,
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  Speaker 4: these women entire existence revolves around attention from well, not
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  Speaker 4: caring about men, just attention from men and desire from men.
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  Speaker 4: They don't have anything else. I mean, that's the real
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  Speaker 4: problem here, is that it haven't developed any other aspect
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  Speaker 4: of themselves.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: So it's like, and now she's going to pin her
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  Speaker 4: her thin bubble veneer of materialism stretched over a chasm
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  Speaker 4: of nihilism on men because they're not giving her enough
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  Speaker 4: attention to distract her from her own eminent death. I guess, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's another world.
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  Speaker 3: It's another world.
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  Speaker 4: And again this is this she's not talking like when
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  Speaker 4: she talks about women being centered on men. She's not
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  Speaker 4: talking about women caring about men's opinions when it comes
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  Speaker 4: to any kind of skill set or any kind of
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  Speaker 4: ethical or moral you know, like not that. And she's
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  Speaker 4: not talking about caring about men when it comes to
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  Speaker 4: the issues and concerns they have. No Her entire understanding
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  Speaker 4: of centering around men is wanting to get attention from
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  Speaker 4: them and sexual validation.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like what a lot of women online do now,
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  Speaker 1: like whether they're posting their you know, their cosplays or
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  Speaker 1: their bikini bodies or their engagement ring. Now there's a
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  Speaker 1: I'm go ahead, We're gonna say about cost cost plays.
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  Speaker 3: I will stand up for the cost players.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, you're a little bit off to the
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  Speaker 4: to the right on or left on my I will
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  Speaker 4: stand up for the cost players because they put a
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  Speaker 4: lot of work into what they do. Maybe the laziest
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  Speaker 4: cost players might be like that, but you know, there
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  Speaker 4: has to be more of a design, you know, a
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  Speaker 4: desire for craft and excellence in with with cost plays.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm going to stand up for them, not maybe
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  Speaker 4: maybe the sluty ones.
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  Speaker 3: You're right, but I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: That's talking about. I'm not talking about the ones that
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  Speaker 2: spend like.
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  Speaker 1: All their time in the garage, like you know, crafting
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  Speaker 1: like the pieces to their costume. I'm talking about the
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  Speaker 1: ones that put on like booty shorts and you know,
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  Speaker 1: orange booty shorts and a purple top and say they're
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  Speaker 1: doing Dora the Explorer right like like that's and that's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of them, Like that's a lot of them, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: and they post on Instagram and stuff, or they're or
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  Speaker 1: they're in the gym, you know, getting good video of
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  Speaker 1: the pussy fat, or they're whatever like that, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: saying you can find it like or there. Or they're
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  Speaker 1: trad wives baking, you know, baking some fucking sourdough with
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  Speaker 1: their titties out, or they're showing their engagement ring all
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  Speaker 1: of it, they're showing off their kids, like how many
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  Speaker 1: kids they have. All of it is for attention generally,
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  Speaker 1: but they know they can get it more easily from men.
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  Speaker 1: So like they yeah, this is and look, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: even throwing shade at that. I'm not angry about that.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't bother me. But like what she is taking
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  Speaker 1: issue with seems to be something she would have to
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  Speaker 1: disagree with like a lot of women, a lot of them.
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  Speaker 1: And she's got to make the claim that it's only
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  Speaker 1: for men, which I don't think is true. I think
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  Speaker 1: that a lot of what women seek online, the male attention,
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  Speaker 1: is another aspect of their own intersexual competition with other women. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: so they can say, look at how many followers I got,
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  Speaker 1: Look at how many thirsty dudes I have. I posted
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  Speaker 1: this one thirst trap and I got this much because
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  Speaker 1: not like they want anything from those men except to
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  Speaker 1: use them as a scoring point system, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's that's yeah, and that that is a
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  Speaker 4: really good point. So when she talks about centering men,
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  Speaker 4: she's probably talking about competition with other women over men's
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  Speaker 4: attention and men's sexual desire.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm not quite sure what her angle is here.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe she's trying to tell all the other women to
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  Speaker 4: put their weapons down before she does or something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Let's call the bit further.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, most of these come from my own experience,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm sharing them in case you ever find yourself
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  Speaker 5: in a similar situation. This isn't about blaming anyone. Men
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  Speaker 5: are women. It's just my way of trying to help. Now,
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  Speaker 5: let's do this.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So now she's gonna go through the list. So
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  Speaker 1: many in the chat said cosplay is at least a hobby.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a special chat.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Would you? Would you agree though, that there is such
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  Speaker 1: a thing as a fake cosplayer in the same way
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  Speaker 1: that there's a fake nerd, like a woman who just
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  Speaker 1: buys like a Spider Man costume that skin tight and
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  Speaker 1: just puts it on and it doesn't It's not made
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  Speaker 1: of anything. It's just like some spandex and calls it cosplay.
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm sorry, but I think that there's a difference
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  Speaker 1: between someone who puts some effort in and someone who
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  Speaker 1: just says, I want to show off my body, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna use like the you know, I'm gonna wear
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  Speaker 1: the mask of something nerdy because I know more men
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  Speaker 1: will click on it. You know, if I'm dressed this,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the white queen or something, and I'm basically
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  Speaker 1: just wearing white lingerie. I think there's a and I'm
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  Speaker 1: just saying I'm not again, I get it if you're
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: if you're a hobbyist, but come on, like anyway, now
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: I'm getting called sexist. Cool, it doesn't locked, No, I know,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: I don't care.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, any any criticism of women is sexist. But men
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: are fair game. You can criticize every aspect of their being.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you disagree with that, you're sexist.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: Okay, now let's do this one. You constantly feel anxious
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: about your appearance. It's obvious, but the common sign, even
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: when you're just stepping out for five minutes, you can't
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: relax unless you look good. You're adjusting your top, checking
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: your reflection ten times, wondering if your hair looks okay,
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: and you're not doing it for you. It's the silent
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: pressure of what if I run into a guy. Your
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: body is on high alert, trying to be desirable. It's
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: not self care, it's self surveillance, and it's exhausting.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: Why why are you trying to be desirable? Are you
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: looking for a partner? And if you're a desirable why
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: haven't you found one?
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: And also, yeah, this is your choice, right, It's your
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: choice to constantly do this because the validation you get
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: from inn sexual interest and in particular, rejecting it, probably
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: is so enticing that you continue to do it. You've
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: centered your sense of worth on this.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I think everybody it's not unhealthy to care about your appearance,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: regardless of No. I'm just saying because when she's framing
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: it in a certain way, and I don't know how
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: applicable that is to the average person, if the average woman,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: unless like you're on the.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: Prowl mm hmm, yeah, yeah, okay.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Let's let's but anyway, that's kind of like a non case.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: But here's the thing that this is also her actively
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: choosing something. Okay, she's not centering men, she's centering the
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: feelings that.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: She gets from men.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: Yes, that's what that's like saying, uh, what men center women?
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: You know, like men center women because they.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Like their boobs.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit, Like it's it might be a
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: little bit men center women like bake goods from them.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know, it's like.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: It's an over it's a bit of an oversimplification.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Of what she's doing. I don't think so.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, I think she's doing that.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: So I'm saying, yeah, I'm trying to think of an
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: equivalent that men do, but it's it's a little more
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: difficult because they're more wrapped up and protecting and providing
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: for women.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: So it's that.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: But would a feminists to get upset by that, or
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: like women would because they'd say, I don't do this
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: for men, I do this for myself.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Like that's the thing, like, what is this argument? Like,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: wouldn't if a man said this, he get rigged over
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: the coals. We don't do this for you, you know?
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: But she's no, she knows in this case, she knows
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: they actually do it, are doing it for men.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: No, they're not doing it for men.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: I do push back on that they are doing it
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: for the feelings.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: That men give them.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I know, but I'm saying that's for claim. Yeah, he's
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: making the claim that they do it for men because
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: they feel anxious about their appearance.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah. And then and then when it's more convenient,
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: they'll make the claim that they're not doing it for men.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: Right is when men respond to the signals that they're
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: putting out that, oh, I want to elicit desire for men,
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: and then men actually hit on them and they don't
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: like that. Then then they want to say, no, I'm
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: doing it for me. I'm not doing it to elicit
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: any emotion in you men, So leave me alone.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I get I get what you're saying now.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: But in this case, she's doing it for the feelings
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: that men give her. That's not centering men. It's not
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: it's I'm I'm centering this group of people because I
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: like what they do for me.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nothing new with men. It's about her feelings, yeah,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: about and it's not even real. It's like her imagined
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: feelings about men. Of what men feel right.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: Two, you physically shrink in male company. You notice your
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: posture changing when there's a guy around you. Cross your arms,
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: sit a little tighter, lower your voice, maybe even suck
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: your stomach in. It's like you're trying to get a cooler,
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: more agreeable, more dainty or fragile. You're not relaxed. Your
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: body is trying to protect you by making you less intimidating.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: That's no way evidence. That's centuries of conditioning kicking in
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: and your body is carrying that weight. Literally.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: Three, go stop, stop.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I just want to let the whole point play out.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Centuries of conditioning. I think we're listening to the an
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: immortal or maybe the undead. You haven't had centuries of conditioning, right?
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: And what?
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: First of all, what define guy in this instance? Because
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: I don't think you do this with the electrician or
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: the garbage man, or the guy who fix it, who
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: cleans your windows, or the guy who empties your garbage
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: you know, or the or the guy who's cleaning the
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: floors in your tower. I don't think you do it
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: with those guys. I think you, at best you treat
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: them maybe maybe your maybe your boss. Maybe men you
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: find attractive. I want to I make myself attractive to
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: men I find attractive. Women most affected also, so centuries
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: of oppression. You know, if men did crap like this,
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: they would accuse. They would say things like women should
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: have to pay for our gym memberships. I am I
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: am oppressed because I'm going to gym to make myself
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: attractive to women that you know we should have. It's
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: it's the gym membership tax, guys. Let's let's mobilize on
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: it and make women make it, make women take it
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: out of their taxes. Oh, this is this is such
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: a level what what ad Nietzsche call it? Nietzsche reticent, reticement, reticement.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: I'll figure out how to how to pronounce it.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Just just keep going, no, no, no, no, I mean
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I I think again. There's like a lot of presumptions
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: made here, just like men exist, women most affected like, Okay.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: You exhaust yourself trying to be effortlessly cool. You're not
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: allowed to be needy or loud or too emotional. You
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: have to be there. You are always fun, never dramatic.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Let me finish stopping. No one's stopping anybody from doing anything.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Say one thing they can stop. Okay, just one.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: Thing, all right, She just wants something from men, and
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: there are requirements that she thinks because I'm not so
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: sure men really require these things. I think it's just
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: the men that she's going after, which isn't just highly
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: desirable men. It's highly desirable men who are willing to
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: play this retarded game with women. And and she's going
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: after these men and they have particular criteria for her
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: to get extract the resource she wants out of them,
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: and she's upset over that. That is the most entitled
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: rape attitude. Like if you want men's attention, then you
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: are going to have to engage in the behaviors that
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: the men whose attention you want are interested in the end.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: If you if you don't want to engage in those behaviors,
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: don't but you're.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Gonna have to give up the attention.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Like yep.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: Again, I'm I'm a sort of I'll think about an
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: equivalent male thing. Like but that's that's astounding, Like men
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: aren't obligated to give you their attention, So if you
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: don't want to engage in the behaviors, then you don't
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: get men's attention. That's I think that's what she's struggling with,
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: all right, yeah, okay.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: Always fun, never dramatic, always low maintenance and pretending to
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: be that twenty four to sevens. That's straight up physical labor.
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: You hide your real feelings, you fake calm, you walk
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: on eggshells so you don't seem clingy. Your body is
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: like a constantly when it's.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: Not an alien invading earth?
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Say, what is she?
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: A reptilian alien invading earth?
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: Who the hell is she?
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, she knows, she knows how all women are when
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: they like So basically, there is no such thing as
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: an actually like chill girl, because anytime there no, I
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, anytime there is one, it can't
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: be real, and she's just being fake because of men.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Like I don't know.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, if it isn't, if it isn't, ladies, you
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: guys don't have to lie to us, you know, if
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: you're all histrionic basket cases, then just be that way
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: and we'll just deal with it accordingly. Yeah, don't don't
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: lure us into this false sense of security. Though.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, this one's okay.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I mean everybody has their moments, you know.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And honestly, this just speaks to what we've discovered,
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: from what has been confirmed by the t APP that
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: women are going after men who make their girl friends jealous,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: which means each of those men they're going after has many,
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: many multitudes of other females interested in him. And again,
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: these are just desirable men willing to play this dumb game,
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: and they're going to be able to demand quite a bit,
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: you know, and which is really ironic because they complain
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: about men wanting women with certain types of personalities, which
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: really just amounts to occasionally allows you to be alone
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: or just do your own thing, you know, And that's
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: the average dude. The average dude does not demand this
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: level of in offense in his life. Like you, like
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: you just demonstrated, Brian, You're like, Okay, if women are
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: pi histrionic or whatever, we'll just deal with.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: It, right.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: That's that's more of the average dude, you know, he's
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: willing to deal with a bit more of the woman.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: But a guy who has you know, seventy five of
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: you on retainer is not willing to deal with any
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: anything he shouldn't. He's not going to why bother, You're
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: just like ooo that I'm ejecting you from the Pez
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: Dispencer New Pezz, and it's like, well, okay, that's the
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: life you're gonna So they complain about the much sort
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: of lower stand Like, if a man is willing to
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: share his life for you with you, he's going to
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: expect a human being, right, and if he knows anything
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: about women, he's can you expect a little chaoos? Okay,
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: Therefore he is going to have actually fundamentally not just
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: you know, I won't say lower standards because loyalty is
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: a substantial issue, but he's going to expect a human being.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: But if you keep going after men who have, like
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: I said, seventy five.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: Of you on retainer, he's not going to expect a
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: human being. He's going to be expect someone on their
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: very best behavior for as long as she's in his company.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: And that's your choice, lady.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this could be her own tactic of like beating
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: out the competition, because maybe she thinks if she can
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: convince her competition to behave opposite of this, and those
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: women will take themselves out of the pool and then
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: she has like better odds with this, like you know,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: one percenter that she's after. Maybe I mean, I'm speculating
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: quite a bit, but I could see it. All right,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: let's play the next one. I'm gonna let this whole
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: thing play, and then i'll pause it and you can respond.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: So number four four you get random bouts of body dysmorphia.
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: You're feeling great until he takes hours to text back
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: or doesn't compliment you. Suddenly your face looks weird, your
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: body looks bloated. It's not, but you think it does.
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: Your confidence crashes out of nowhere. It's not about how
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: you actually look. It's about tying your self worth to
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: how much he seems to want you. And when that drops,
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: your entire perception of yourself gets distorted. Your body becomes
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: the punching bag for your disappointment.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: He doesn't text back in a couple hours, Well, that
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: seems to be a very trivial thing. Sounds like you're
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: just really neurotic.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: It's not.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: It's not a matter of decenter at decentering men.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: It's like, this is what another thing.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: If we're dealing with somebody who actually sort of somewhat reasonable,
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: you know, which I doubt.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: But let's just assume.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: She's offloading responsibility for her own neuroticism onto men.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: She's like, I center men. No, you're a neurotic, right.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this's walking red flag.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: If if you if it wasn't men that you wanted
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: something from, you'd center your neuroticism on I don't know, uh,
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: slot machines. You'd center your neuroticism on the stock market,
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: you'd center something. Right, So you're just a neurotic. Men
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: have nothing to do with this, okay.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Yep, okay.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: Number five five, you say yes when your gut screams no,
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: he wants to meet, you're tired, he wants to talk,
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: you're not in the mood. He flirts. Oh, you feel uncomfortable,
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: but you still go along with it because why no
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: feels rude or scary or like you.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: Might wait what you don't know how to stare?
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: You're telling me, okay, every time you betray your own
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: boundaries to seem nice, but you ignore it, that gut feeling,
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: that's your body trying to protect you, and you keep
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: silencing it.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, So.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: Every dude that comes up to her, she's so unfailingly polite,
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: every dude she's she's married to Oscar the Grouch, because
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Oscar the Grouch came up to her one time and
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: said hey, baby, and she just couldn't say no. I
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: just watched it a a documentary on Sesame Street. Yeah,
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: that's that's why that reference came.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: But it's like trying to trying to protect the show.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Was it like a newer documentary.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: It was an older documentary. I don't know what they're
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: doing right now. I'm just talking about my memories as
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: a child. No doubt they're being violated currently by some nonsense.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: But regardless, you know, or the equivalent, like I would
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: imagine that Oscar. No, maybe he isn't, maybe he's not
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: a zero, but anyway, he's a sigma.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: He was the original sigma.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: He was the original poor example, let me try again.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: She is currently married to what's the opposite of Chad Steve.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Actually, I have no idea, I have no idea. I
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: guess virgin, let's go with Chuck.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: She's married to Chuck because she couldn't say no to I. No, No,
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure this woman can say no to a
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: man she doesn't find attractive. Voydcat Is has decided this
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: is not going to happen.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I think she's doing because like, why why would a
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: woman who doesn't have an interest in a man still
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: desire attention, Like, how could she also still be a
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: pick me? I don't know what the unless the logic
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: is that you're so desperate for male validation that you'll
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: let them do unspeakable things to you without your consent,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: so you get that validation because you're too afraid of rejection.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: It doesn't it doesn't actually make sense, Like, it doesn't
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: make sense. And I think this is another way that
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: she's trying to take women out of the competition, because
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: if you can convince women that, I think she thinks
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: that she can just propagandize women out of competition by
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: telling them, actually, you know, you may think that you
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: like want to hang out with him, but you actually don't.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: It's it's like the devil on your shoulder, you know.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: Hmmm, yeah, all right, let's no.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: Honestly, I was reading I was reading the chat and
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: trying to figure out something that the chatters were conveying
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: in terms of information.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, not the verticals. It was a horizontal. The vertical
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: has been quiet.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: I remember, you guys got a you guys got a
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: huge influx last Tuesday.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: But then for whatever reason.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: It's hard, but how it's gonna.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: Go if we if we talk about Trump or CARNEI,
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: it usually goes up. But but yeah, yeah, I think
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: last week you talked about the American or the Canadian
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: hockey team that was accused of good the hockey team.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and then.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's like big I guess if it's big news.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that was big news, but it.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Was news anyway.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Uh so number six, I think we're on.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: So yeah, let's keep on.
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: You struggle with sleep and restlessness after rejection. He ghosts,
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: he flirts with someone else, he loses interest, wit you eat,
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: you can't sleep, You're staring at your phone like it
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: holds your value. Your body treats rejection like trauma because
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: it's not just him leaving. It's the loss of validation
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: you were feeding off. Your nervous system crashes, you spiral,
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: you panic. It's not just heartbreak, it's withdrawal.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: Well against that speaks to my original impression that this
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: is not early about men. It's about the validation or
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: the emotions that men give women. And I will actually
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: the more that I listen to, and this is why
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: I've sort of done this series these like women who
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: talk about relationships, the more I suspect that they're not
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: even interested in the man. They're just interested in how
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: he makes her feel. And a big subset of that
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: is how he makes her girlfriends feel jealous, because then
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: she can feel.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Dominant for them.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: I guess, mm hm I And that's It's like I
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: would say that men a lot of men's actual desires
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: in a relationship revolve around wanting a woman who actually
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: wants a relationship with a with them as a man,
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: that makes sense, rather than a woman who just wants
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: a feeling or a sense of validation or attention.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Right, you know what I mean?
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: And yeah, and that's and then women will turn around
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: and say, well, all men want is for women to
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: reduce their their expectations, and it's like, no, they just
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: want you to understand what it is to be in
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: a relationship with another human being emotionally, not just wanting
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: that human being to give you.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: A feeling constantly. What does that mean?
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: And it's a lot of women, judging from all of
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: this dating stuff that they talk about, they don't understand
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: the distinction between wanting to be in a relationship with
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: a man and wanting to be in wanting to have
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: access to the feelings that he gives them, otherwise known
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: as romance.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's go seven.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: You always feel like you're performing, even when you're alone.
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: You're kind of on. You pose prettier in the mirror.
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: You rehearse how you'll act next time he sees you.
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: You mentally draft you texts, You imagine his reaction to
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: your outfit, your story, your photo. The male gaze is real,
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: and it's brutal. You don't even remember what it's like
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: to just exist without being watched or without trying to
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: be wanted. That's not confidence. That's constant performance, and your
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: body is exhausted from it.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: So the male gaze includes women wanting.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: To be to be seen by men.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Yes, I thought that was just men. Wasn't the male
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: gaze a thing from film where the camera slowly pans
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: up a woman from foot to from toe to face.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: You know, like, like, no, it's it's also just like
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: women wanting to be seen by men as the male gaze.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, women want because women don't have a personhood.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: See that the men not only gaze at women, but
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: they are also in women's head. Making women want to
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: be gazed at. It's like this is this is this
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: is the modern woman's eternal battle with her animus.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: I think she's.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: That with any idea that she has to do anything
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: in order to get something from men, and that her
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: desire for even men's validation, which has nothing to do
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: with centering men nothing at all, that that is somehow
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: something that men inflict on her. But simultaneous with that,
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: I'm guessing this woman has no idea of who she
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: is without men's attention and validation and the emotions that
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: men give her, or at least the emotions that men
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: put in her girlfriends in terms of jealousy. Like this
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: is something that I've noticed with women. What are you
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: outside of the emotion of the moment?
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: I had this recent argument with a woman on Twitter. Actually,
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: this is not quite an emotion of the moment. It's
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: more like trying to conceive of things that are outside
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: of men's control. And I was explaining to her that
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: the reason why women are going to lose their life
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: it is not because men are going to take them away,
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: but because women are going to fail in their roles
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: of stewards of the cultures that give them their rights
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: or as they conceive of them, because I'm I'm pretty
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: sure that most cultures gave women certain rights and privileges
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: that were reasonable within the time in.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: School vive as a as a civilization, right yeah, yeah, yeah?
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Well what then what is the the end because this
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: is the seventh point. I haven't gotten to the very
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: end here. But like if you take all the things
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: that she has listed off, and I know this isn't
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: intended to be prescriptive, but like, what what kind of
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: world does she want to live in if you take
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: this to its ultimate conclusion, because it sounds Islamic to me,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: So is that what you want? Like do you want
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: women in burkas that like basically just live, you know,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: in the home and they get driven around by men
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: that way, men don't objectify them, they don't ghost them
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: because you're assigned and he is supposed to take care
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: of you. I mean, is that the world she wants?
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Because like anything else, anything else, even a woman showing
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: her eyes, you know, is like potentially like you.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Know, the male gaze.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like trying I guess, like being a pickny because
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: she'll do her eyes up really well, get the nice
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: you know, like the nice eyeliner and stuff. So I
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: don't know. I just trying to figure out where what
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: is the logical conclusion of what she is driving at.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Of course, women like this will never tell you what
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: they actually want. They just want to talk around it endlessly,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: you know. So that's what it's about. It's about the
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: dialectic just continuing and continuing, continuing. But if I look
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: at this, it's like, sounds like you want to live
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: in an Islamic state.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: So it's the emotion in the moment.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: But to finish what I was going to say about
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: the woman that I'm having an argument with on Twitter,
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: I said that women aren't going to lose their rights
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: because men take them away.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: They're going to lose them because.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: They fail to properly steward the society that gives them
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: to them in the constellation that this society does. Okay,
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: And this woman said, well, you believe that women should
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: have their rights taken away? And I'm like, it's not
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: about whether or not you are owed your rights or
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: whether or not I believe women should have their rights
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: taken away. It is about simple reality. If you jump
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: off a cliff, you are going to go splat. You
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: can as you're falling off the cliff. You can think, oh,
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: I should have the right to jump off a cliff
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: and not go splat all you want, but you're still
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: going to go splat. And she went back and forth
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: and back and forth, and it just occurred to me.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: She doesn't understand that there are things outside of men's control,
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: specifically men in our culture's control, things that they can't stop.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: So she does not understand and the idea that women
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: will lose their rights because of their own failures due
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: to outside circumstances that men do not control, because she
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: can't conceive. She cannot conceive of anything outside of men's control.
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: She can't conceive of it. So I just wanted to
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: put that out there because I think that a woman
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: who can conceive that there are things that men do
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: not control, therefore things that happen to women that aren't
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: a result of men failing to live up to some
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: standard or failing to uphold their rights, but simply happen
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: to women because women's actions cause them to happen. Right,
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: That is decentering men. I don't know what the hell
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: she's on. I mean, we're at the seventh so maybe
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: it will the final peace will fall into place and
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: will have a moment of complete clayer. But you know, opinion, Yeah, Okay.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: We're gonna get We're gonna get like a seventh a
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: seventh style ending.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: You know, if you ever seen the movie What's in
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: the Box?
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: Mm hmm, what I really think? Wanting to be seen
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: as human craving connection is normal. But when your body
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: starts paying the price for male validation, when your sleep,
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: energy and confidence revolve around what men thinks, that's not normal.
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: That's self abandonment. Fight against the conditioning that says women
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: are made only for male pleasure. Stop letting movies, books,
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: or society convince you that you have to be beautiful
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: and earn male validation to be the main character in
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: your own damn life. You get to decide that, not them.
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: Your body deserves more than this tug of war. It
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: deserves peace, ease, safety, and no amount of attention from
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: any man is worth losing that ever, Notice this difference
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: between women who've dissentered men.
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: And and I like, this is our next article. She
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: doesn't article after article after article on how she hasn't
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: she's decentered men or she's trying to decenter men or
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: whatever else. Okay, so that's her final point. Yeah, but
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: if you decenter men, you no longer get their validation,
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: and now you're left with the validation of your sister's.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: Good luck.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Wild Okay, are we playing the next article? Uh?
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: Did you have any thoughts on the seventh?
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Did?
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: Did everything come into place?
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, no, I mean it just sounds like you,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I don't all I see here is
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: a desire to I think ultimately, what women like this
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: seem to want is to just feel safe. They want
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: to I don't know, it's just it's just it's just feelings, man,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: It's like they want men to tell them that they
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: will protect them without actually doing it. I don't know,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: It's just it's okay, Well, like when your body starts
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: paying the price for male validation, when your sleep, energy,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: and confidence revolve around what men thinks, it's not normal.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: You know, this whole thing just sounds like projection because
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: you can't possibly know what other women are actually experiencing,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: So you're just telling us what you're going through, and
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: then you're acting like it's all women's problem.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, She's basically saying this is my problem. Therefore it's
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: all women's problem. Because I'm like looking at this list
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: and can go through it really quickly. I think there
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: might be a way that I can get it, so
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: or you know what, I could share it?
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Could I not?
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at it. I'm looking at it. I can
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: share it. I logged in with badgelor live streams by
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: connecting the Google account to it. All right, so let's
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: make us look at it.
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: Let's jettison the crazy AI slop lady, and let's just
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: look at these. You constantly feel anxious about your appearance?
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: Okay, I don't.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: I do have some anxiety about my parents, but not
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: constantly because I've got other things in my life.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but do men do that to you? Or do
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: you do that to you? Or do your women, the
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: women in your peer group do that?
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: No?
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, like I'm speaking at you, I'm talking to
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: like the royal you of women everywhere. Like, when you
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: concern yourself with your appearance, would you have an honest
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: look at yourself in the mirror and say, am I
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: doing this? Because I'm like I'm the one I'm concerned with.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Or is it really just men, the the the miasma,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: the cloud, the fog called men out there are doing
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: that to me. I don't think that's the case. And
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: the truth is is that in this world, if you're
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: looking for someone, then you're going to have to live
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: up to a standard of some kind. And it's not
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: their fault. It's nobody's fault. It's just living in the world,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: you know, Like I can't just like eat whatever he wants,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: never bathe you know, like, and I'm using a man
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: as an example because maybe that'll like work better because
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: I know that we tend to not like want to
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: see that with women. But any man will have to
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: hold himself to some standard as well if he's hoping
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: to meet someone, and like, you know, like if he's
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: not and he wants to live out in the off
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: the grid and like hunt his own fucking food and
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: live in a cabin that he builds himself, hell, you know,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: have at it. But but but that guy is not
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: posting medium blogs. But like anybody who is concerned about
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: like meeting someone, starting a family, guess what you're gonna
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: have to live up to some kind of standards, and
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: these what this woman seems to be writing about is
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: that these standards are bad because first of all, I
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: shouldn't have to live up to them, and also they're
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: not something that I impose on me. There's something imposed
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: on me by society, by patriarchy, you know. And it's like, no, no,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: they're standards you should let everybody should live up to
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: some kind of standard.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: And these are the most trivial, like yeah, what the
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: the attention you get from men's very trivial, like the validation,
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: Like I don't care. Usually I look like I look
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: like I rolled out of a fucking park bench. I
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: try to look a little better on stream because I
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: have artistic vanity. So I'm like when I look at
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: myself in terms of composition, like once once the camera
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: is like, oh wow, you know, I don't want to
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: look like shit because I don't like my art to
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: look like shit. And at this point it's now an
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: art sort of an art form of a sort okay,
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: but this like this isn't like I don't And the
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: other thing is that I would say the anxiety that
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: men give me in regards to my appearance, because the
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: funny thing is that you'll what is what is interesting
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: about men is regardless of your personal opinion, they will
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: usually just judge you honestly, and some guys will find
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: you you it's really just an academic exercise because I'm married.
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: But you know, some guys will think that you're cute,
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: and some guys will think that you're a dumbass, you know,
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: and and you know, that's fine that you look stupid,
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: that you look you look ridiculous, or you look like
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: a man. Whatever, it's fine. The anxiety I have over
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: how men view my appearance is eclipsed by the anxiety
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: that women have induced in me women when I put
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: myself out there when and and of course I get
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: a lot of pushback from women, like a lot, because
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: I criticize women and I blame women, and I believe
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: that we should do so until we are as comfortable
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: doing those things to women as we are men. And
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: I don't do it like they're physical, which is the
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: usual thing. It seems like it's okay if you're a
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: caddy and you insult. I do it based on moral,
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: ethical and skill based, like those are the those are
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: the capacities that I judge. Yes, skill issues right, And
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: I get a lot of shit from women. And the
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: thing is that these women, who can effusively praise every
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: woman as a perfect tent, they have discovered insecurities that
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: I didn't even know I had, and they will drill
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: down on them. So my anxiety over how men view me, eh, like,
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: you don't like me, so what right? There are plenty
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: of other women who probably are more along in your capacity.
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: My anxiety around how women judge my appearance, Like, somehow
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: women don't just say you're ugly, they manage to say
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: it in a way where they're also saying.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: You are not worthy of existing.
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: Like, it's astounding anxiety around women's opinions far higher, unbelievably higher.
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: And I would honestly say, and I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: actually speak for all women because this is what I've observed.
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: I think women are far more anxious about other women's
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: views of their appearance than they are men. And one
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: of the things that makes I think this, all this
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: anxiety greater is because women lie, right, They lie about
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: how good looking you are, They lie about whether or not.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: That makeup looks good.
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: They lie and lie and lie to each other. So
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: you never know if she's saying the truth or if
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: it's another lie that she's setting up some kind of
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: mind that she's gonna set off in the future, And
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: that creates a.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: Horrendous amount of anxiety because.
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: I'm actually prefer the position I'm in because I don't rely,
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: and I try to minimize how much I put worth
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: into women's opinions of my appearance. So I've never been
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: addicted to the whole Oh, you're a ten, you deserve
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: the world, You're a goddess. I've never I've never Once
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: somebody starts with that crap, I'm like, yeah, go.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: Away, start shut up, right.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: So I've never been in a position where I've been
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: on that uncertainty of is it really true? Well, if
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: if I pissed the Sisterhood off, they're gonna take away
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: my validation is a ten right and if they believe it,
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: it has to be true and all that crap.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: I don't even deal with that.
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, screw it, No, I'm put a boundaries placed,
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: not gonna buy it, right, But there are women who do.
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: A lot of these women who are extremely unattractive have
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: been gaslight by the Sisterhood, but by being gaslet. They
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: are now controlled because they invest their value in the
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: opinion of the sisterhood over their looks, which could be
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: withdrawn at any point, because they're not going to get
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: it from men because they aren't actually that good looking.
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: So this is a tool of control, it's a tool
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: of creating anxiety. And if women were really honest with themselves,
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: they would admit that the true source of their anxiety
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: about their parents as other women, not men. And often
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: what's happening here is they are getting torn down directly
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: or indirectly or maybe subconsciously.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: They know if they step a.
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: Hair out of line, all of that, Oh I feel
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: like a ten because my girlfriends tell me I'm a ten.
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: Therefore I'm a ten is going to be withdrawn. So
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: they turn to men for validation because of the anxiety
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: they have dealing with women. And then they blame men
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: because why why is she blaming men for this? Why
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: is she saying, oh, this is because I'm centering men.
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: Why is there why is this discourse? Why does it
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: exist here? Okay, number two, you physically shrink in male
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: company per sex doubt. Did you have anything to say
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: on that?
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: No? Yeah, I mean I think she's trying to like
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: set up a narrative again like that, Yeah, like that
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: men just being in men's presence affects women in negative
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: way and women trying to like pretend like that's not
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: happening or just falling into the trap. But it just doesn't,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: it doesn't ring true to me, Like like you already
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: said that, it depends on the man. So like, yeah,
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: if it's a man that you're interested in, if it's
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: a man of high status, if it's a man who
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: has authority over you, like a cop, like a boss,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: like you know, someone that you have to that you
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: have to sort of like your father, you know, someone
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: who has authority over you, then yeah, you probably will.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: But that's something that men would do with those men too,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: because there is hierarchy and it exists. But like if
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: it's a man that's doing something for you, like someone
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: that's in service to you or your kids, or a
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: boy or like the delivery driver for uber, Like you're
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: not shrinking in front of that guy or the janitor
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: or the garbage man. You know, it's it's the high
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: statusman that you're interested in. So this idea that you
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: were looking for validation from you know men in the
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: abstract is I just don't think it rings true. I
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: think it's the men that you want the attention of.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: So yeah, and that's your that's on you.
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: You've already preached, like you've already prejudged, and now you
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: are honestly manipulating the men that you're interested in or
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: you want to appeal to m because you want to
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: use feminine vulnerability to get something from them. Okay, well,
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: so sad, too bad, so sad. And then you're talking
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: about centuries of oppression, talk about stolen valor if nless
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: you're centuries old.
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: You haven't been opressed for centuries.
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: No, and also having to do something to get something
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: from someone else that you don't deserve in the first place.
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: That's not you being oppressed. That's an exchange, all right.
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: You exhaust yourself to be effortlessly cool. You're not allowed
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: to be needy or loud or too emotional. You have
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: to be the children, always, never dramatic, always a woman.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, what does it mean not allowed? Like according to
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: what yeah, I do we make that?
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Is that a law? Is that in law? That like
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: against the law to be loud?
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: Because then women certainly break that law a lot.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: So it's I mean, that's that's a lie.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: It's like this thing you know you do you never
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: let me do this thing, this thing that you're always
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: doing what you don't.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: It's not that you don't.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Think you can, it's that you don't like that people
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: respond negatively to it. And yes, if you're being needy
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: or loud or emotional, then you're like, regardless of whether
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: you're a male or female, I don't think that goes
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: over well with people. So but again, you're trying to
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: make this into a female thing. I mean, maybe women
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: do it more often, but so do children. Do we
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: like put up with it? I guess it depends in
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: certain walmarts I've seen that.
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: But the other thing is that.
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: If you basically what you're saying is you have to
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: not impose upon who whatever men you're with, well, if
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: he's expecting a performance from you and you are delivering one,
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: then there's probably a mismatch in your ability his status
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: and your ability to actually expect a commitment. And the
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: other thing is that if men do, if men like
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: they constantly say that narcissists hide who they are and
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: then reveal them, so is this the same thing. You're
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: hiding who you are, and then once you've suckered him in,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: you reveal not loud or too emotional, and this is
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: code for being abusive. Needy, loud, and emotional. Is actually
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: what she's saying is I'm expected not to be abusive
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: in my romantic relationships.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, if we just take what she
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: lists off and sort of like invert it, so she says,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: you're not allowed to be needy or loud, so like,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: so basically you should be allowed. You should be permitted
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: to be needy and loud and emotional, and you should
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: also not be chill and be against fun and constantly
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: dramatic and high maintenance and somehow men have to just
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: deal with that. Just take that and do the reverse,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: because that's what she's saying, Like, I want to do
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: these things though, I want to be a completely toxic
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: abuse person. Sometimes why can't I do that? Well, you can,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: but do it on your own, like men don't have
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: to put up with that.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, But also the if and if this is just
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: really like she's really just playing it up, then the
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: question becomes, you're not with somebody who's committing to you
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: in a in a life capacity because.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: Somebody who will occasionally occasionally, Yes, people, people are human
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: and they're going to have their moments. But again, it's
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: it's on, it's on. It's ridiculous to assume that you
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: will if you're in a relationship, that you'll never have
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: hard times where somebody's that's my point.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if this is what she's this is, this is
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: the standard she's being held to in her relationship because
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: I know guys like they will like you, like, they
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: will deal with There's a certain amount of humanity that
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: comes in a relationship. So you get the depression, you know,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: you get the down days, you get the parent dying,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: get the failing something or or a lawsuit or something.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: You know, there's always crap that happens in life, and
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: you will get there will be moments where people are
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: upset and angry and frustrated and they're just loud and emotional.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: Men and women.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: Somebody is who committed to you for life. You don't
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: have to perform this constantly. So what I'm saying is
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: who is it that she's performing this for. It's not
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: somebody who's committed to her as a human being. She's
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: performing this for a man who expects the performance, and
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: she knows that if she doesn't give one, if she
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: isn't pleasant, right, she's.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 5: Out the door.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: Well, who's who is that really on? Because you can
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: you can not go after the rap I don't know
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: what to call them the men on tea because we
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: look at the look at the men on tea, and
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: then look at the women on tea. We're talking about
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: several standard deviations of attractiveness, like mismatch is what I noticed.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: Now they may not have been a random selection, but
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: I think they were.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: So we're looking.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: At mid and below going after like eight and above. Well,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: of course, if you're going after eight and above and
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: he's got multiples, that you're gonna have to be on
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: your best behavior. But that speaks to you and what
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: you are choosing to do. Not centering men. You are
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: centering specific men, and you are failing to notice that
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: this is a result of your choice, like your behavior
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: towards this man or the expect the behavior that they
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: expect is because you are centering certain men. And she
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: doesn't even notice that this is her choice, Like she's
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: she's basically gone up to the population of men and said, hey,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: you you, you you, I'm gonna pay it. Yeah, you're
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: coming with me into the room of my life. And
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: then she's like in the room of her life with
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: her selected men and saying, why are these men behaving
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: in this way? Why do I feel like I have
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: to do these things and that things because you've selected
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: these men.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: You've probably selected.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: Them because there's a huge gap between your status and
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: their status, and they make your girlfriends jealous. But she
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: selected them, and she cannot see that this is a consequence.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: Of her own actions.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: And I like you, like I said, I don't think
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: she gets small, puts her your best behavior on when
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: it's the dude picking up her garbage.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: No, those are not people. So and again though I
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: think that the uh, there's entitlement in this number three
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: throughout the whole thing. There is because again it's this
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: idea that even if you know you were involved with someone,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: I think that there can be consideration even if you're
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: involved with somebody long term, Like if I have a
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: bad day or if I'm having some problems, you know,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: financial worries, whatever it is, I don't take it out
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: on Lindsey. I don't do that, Like I mean, like,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you can't help it because you're in
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: a state. But when that happens, I'm apologetic and I say,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: you know, this isn't your fault.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: But like if somebody just says, well you just like
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: sometimes I'm just gonna be a bit and you're just
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: going to have to put up with it, It's like, no, no,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: I don't. That's ridiculous, Like what do you think this is?
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: And I think that, yeah, there's just you know, just
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: piggybacking off what you said. I think that it's just
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: entitlement to expect that people just have to put up
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: with that and that, and to like actually be thoughtful
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: in that regard regarding that is not being a pick
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: me or whatever this is.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: That's ridiculous.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: It's being considerate. It's not being in a Yeah, it's
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: it's being an adult. It's not being an abusive child.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: You put up with more if there's an investment involved,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: if there's loyalty involved, right, because because you know that
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: this is just a bad day, okay, and they've spent
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: however many years with you, and if they have a
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: bad day, they have a bad day. Yeah, that's not
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: this is this is not the hoof prints of her
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: choosing men who are willing.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: To invest in her.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: Okay, for rand, you get random bounts of body body dysmorphy,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: dys morphia. Do not steal the valor of people with
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: actual problems. Five you say let yes when your gut
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: screams no.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: This is another one that I really disliked because it
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: opens up that oh sorry, go ahead.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure if Harry Handyman comes up to her,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: she knows she suddenly discovers her ability to say.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, Milton from from from office space rather.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: Than Chad Chaddington, the Chad Chad fifth who who is
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: a you know, a finance bro.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, Well, my my, my problem with number five.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: I just want to say is that this is another
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: one of these, Like there's a number of ways that
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: these people blur the lines on what constitutes rape and
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: sexual assault, and this is just another like pebble in
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: that pond that's altering the definition by just saying, oh,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: if you just if you're just tired and you're not
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: in the mood, but you don't say no, then you
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: know this isn't your fault. He did something this is
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: what this is? Like what I don't like that?
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: This is very very dangerous.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: It's a very dangerous way to talk about consent because
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: you're playing with fire here. And of course it's men's
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: lives that are on the line, even if it is
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: a fucking gigachad guy, you know, Yeah, I mean his
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: life is worth just as much as anybody else's.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: So okay, yes, all right, so you struggle with sleep
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: and restlessness after rejection. Well but rejection this is the
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: other thing, Like what standard are you holding yourself to?
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: Being rejected is awful? Like you can allow that to
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: be awful without just living constantly with it or blaming men.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, you can have human emotions and they can be.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: There or women can't be can't you can't reject them?
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the thing, Like you're I think that that's
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: probably then you.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: Can't say no to women, but they.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but what I'm pointing out, Okay, you struggle with
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: sleep and restlessness after rejection. He goes, he flirts with
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: someone else, he loses interest, and suddenly you can't cut eat,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: you can't sleep, You're just staring at your phone like
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: it holds your value, your body treats rejection like trauma
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: because it's not just him leaving, it's the loss of validation.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: You were feeding off cluster just cluster b things.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right, sure, you know, my greatest freaking terror is
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: losing my dog and my husband, like having to say
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: goodbye to them. Reject like that that is, but that
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: is about actually losing someone's presence in your life.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: What is this really about you? You you no longer
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: get your validation.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: I said, that's that's narc talk right there, right, okay,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: justifiable rejected. But here's the thing, like it's it's narktalk,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: but it's also like rejection does hurt, so it's okay
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: if it bothers you, Right, that's not something you need
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: to blame on men. You're just a human being and
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: it happens. But you're right because she's bringing this up
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: as like some kind of trauma. It's almost like men
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: shouldn't be able to reject us, which is also narc talk.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: You always feel like you're performing, yes, because you're a narcissist. Okay,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: let's let's finish off.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: That's basically what it is.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: Musically what it is. All right, you're you're a narcissist
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: potentially with comorbid with antisocial personality disorder. Please please, don't
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: don't think that you have the right to kill people,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: or kill men, or take take.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: What you want from them sexually.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: I think the world is more in more danger from
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: you than you are from the world. My friend re
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: read or any or whatever. Okay, let's let's let's finish
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: it off.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: They what else is it?
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, there's more, but it's not about the article.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: Okay, it's the next one.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: It's like her next entry in her endless saga of
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: centering and decentering men, because she she loved she loved
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: that delicious validation. She finds that men are a really
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: suitable narc supply, and she loved the delicious validation. And
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: goddamn that she has to do anything to get that
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: delicious validation. Like why does there have to be men
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: attached to validation?
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: Right? Why can't validation just rain from the sky?
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: Why do you actually have to do human things to
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: get validated by humans?
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: The world should be a narcissist paradise.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: I got a super chat I gotta read.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: So Albatross gave us ten dollars and says, do y'all
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: remember Meerkat Manner. Pretty much ever episode revolves around one
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: female meerkat trying to overthrow the matriarch or the matriarch
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: bullying a rival clan. Why does that feel familiar? I
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: never heard of it, but thank you for telling us.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: I've heard about that. I've heard about it. Maybe we should,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: maybe we should watch Meerkat Manner.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: But it's that's Is that.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: A cartoon or something?
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: Or Okay, here's the clue.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: It's not a cartoon. It's that an actual documentary about meerkats.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: Meerkats are alloparents, like us, which means that you need
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: the resource of multiple individuals to raise your children. So
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: there is a lot of politicking going on with meerkats,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: just like there's a lot of politicking going on with
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: female humans. They are constantly trying to acquire more resource
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: and destroy other women's ability to maintain or acquire resources themselves.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: That's the way it do, and a successful culture gets
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: women on page with the idea that everybody can sort
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: of support each other in the resources that they have
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: in their little spaces, their a little bubble of resources,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: and we can respect each other and not be constantly
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: driven by toxic jealousy destroying those resources, which ultimately overall
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: impoverishes society. But we're not in that society. We're in
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: a society that is one hundred percent ruled by women's
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: toxic competition. All of this talk of patriarchy and male
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: gays and male privilege, this is just deflecting from that fact.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: And honestly, I think that probably that reflects a good
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: portion of human history is the competition between women over resources.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: That's why I absolutely do not like when when feminists say, oh,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: it's men sending men to No, it's not. It's society's
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: resource pressure causing one society to prey on another in
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: order to gain more resource. And that resource pressure doesn't
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: come from men, it comes from women, Okay. And then
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: women also raise their boys to believe that a part
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: of their identity is in that kind of military service
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: to society and society's interests.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: Okay. It's just we act out.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: Emotional habits that are put put into us by our
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: mothers and our you know, our parents generally, but our
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: mothers specifically, because they're usually the closest to that kind
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: of the most wet clay, shall we say, the wettest Clay.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 4: By the time it gets to your father, Clay's a
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: little set. I mean, it's a little bit of mobility,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: but it's really mom that's.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: Molded the most of it.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: Okay, all right, so anyway I want, I wanted a
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: little squirrel.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: So all right, that's all right. So let's play this then,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: women who.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: Just entered men and those who haven't, and I'm still
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 5: somewhere in between. By Reeny Flame hot Pepper emoji two
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  Speaker 5: point nine k likes. There's a huge, almost impossible to
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 5: ignore difference between women who've moved men out of the
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 5: center of their lives and those who still live for
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 5: male attention. And no, it's not just about who's dating
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 5: and who's single. It's not about hating men either, God know.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 5: It's about something deeper, something that shows up in their energy,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 5: the way they move, the way they live. Here's the
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 5: biggest difference. Women who've dissentered men see through the bullshit,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 5: while women who still center men fall for it. You
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 5: very well damn know, I'm going to tell you exactly
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 5: what I mean by this.
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  Speaker 1: That's like her whole medium blog is about decentering men.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: She's basically like a female migtile right, but like a
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: lot angrier.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: Well, a lot a lot more strangely depend like it's
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: her entire identity is decentering men, which is still centered
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: on men. Right. I think a lot of likea migtaele
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: content or sort of you know, got a little quiet
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: because you can't constantly talk about all I'm not you know.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, they generally have just walked away.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: But like you just walk away.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like in the red Pill rage of that,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: but like it's not she's not going to get out
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: of it, I guess.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: But but also it's like, again, what she talks about
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: centering men, she's not really talking about centering men. She's
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: talking about centering that delicious validation, that delicious marks supply
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: she gets from men.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: What's the uh this is?
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: I got it?
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: I got it, Brian.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: My squirrel brain has has erupted with the correct or
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 4: a possible metaphor. It's like saying, because you like steaks,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 4: you're centering cows.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: Right, you're centering cows. You're centering cow.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: Yes, you obviously you're centering cows, Brian, And you need
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: to consider how much that impacts your yourself your validation
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: of self because you center cows.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you like steak.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: You know that that means you're not liking yourself that much.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 4: Less you like steak. I don't know, right, that's not
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: she's saying, I center men because I like the sweet,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 4: sweet nectar of men's approval. That's not centering men, that's
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 4: centering what.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: You get out of them.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 4: Okay, So fundamentally she might be female migto, but she's
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: starting from a completely like a wrong premise.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, here we go.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 5: Women who've dissentered men are no longer accepting crumbs. When
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 5: a woman no longer treats male attention like oxygen, her
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 5: entire vibe shifts. She doesn't get butterflies because a man
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 5: remembered her birthday. She doesn't feel blessed because someone treated
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 5: her decently like a human. She doesn't fall for love
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 5: bombing or empty promises because she knows basic kindness isn't
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: a grand, romantic gesture. It's basic. When I think.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: That she's she's entitled again, Like, it's not like remember
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: your birthday? That So like, if men don't do that,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: are you going to get upset?
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: I think, Yeah, do you remember men's birthday. That's not
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: even it's not even on the on the agenda. But okay,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: but the premise, like the difference between her and MiG
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: Tao is she's talking about something psychological like migtow are
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 4: talking about like what no women in life, right, because
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: of the the financial and legal problems that that. So
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: it's not even to a degree it's women, but it's
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: also the legal status of women relative to men, right.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: So these are concrete and practical issues. She's talking about
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 4: the fact that she gets narcs supply from men, and
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: men have opinions about that. I think that's categorically different.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 4: She's not just talking about, Hey, I oh, I just
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 4: want to live my life, do my thing. She's talking
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 4: about I am addicted to validation from others. I probably
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: find it easier to get from men, and I don't
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: like that, even the low bar that men expect from
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: me in order to get that validation, I don't want
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: to have to jump, because validation should fall from the
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: sky like manna. Like yeah, and if it doesn't, men
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 4: are to blame because men control everything, including gravity.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let's keep going.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 5: You de center men, you stop rewarding crumbs. You don't
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 5: ignore disrespect. You stop making excuses for bad behavior because
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 5: you're afraid of being alone. You stop treating attention like
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 5: it's proof of your worth. You expect effort, respect, consistency,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 5: and you don't apologize for it.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: This is starting to sound a lot like, uh, female
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: dating strategy stuff, doesn't it?
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah it does, I mean honestly, yeah, you don't.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know, Like, but.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: She also believes, because I'm looking at some of her
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: other work, she's definitely a feminist. Like she says, she
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: has one called another blog that's called they say not
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: all men until these four things happen to them.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: So obviously that's an issue.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: Eleven sneaky red flags. You're dealing with an entitled man.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: So she's obviously like a feminist that like I don't know,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: like like she likes them, but she doesn't like them,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: but she doesn't trust them, but she she doesn't want
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: to give. She likes the validation, Yeah, she likes the
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: the emotional.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: You gotta look at all stuff in that context. She
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: likes validation from.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: Men, yeah, you know, but she doesn't.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: Maybe it's safer, maybe it's easier than validation from women,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: whatever reason. But she likes validation for men. She likes
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 4: narc supply from men mm hm. And she either is
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: trying to argue that she should have to do less
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: for it, or she is indirectly sabotaging her competition for it,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 4: because if her competition behaves in this way, they will
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: price themselves out of the market and she'll.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: Have a larger share.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 4: So we could be looking at some meerkat manner politics
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 4: going on here. You know, she could up some pretty
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: sharp elbows for her fellow female narks feeding off of
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 4: the herd of men.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 5: That's why women who've desentered men seem hard to impress,
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 5: not because they're cold or bitter, but because they finally
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 5: see through the cheap tricks. Women still center men are
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 5: okay with bare minimum?
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: What Just because you expect more doesn't mean you're not
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 4: still centering men. Just because you think you've raised your standards,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 4: like you expect more validation, you expect more steak from
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 4: the cow, that doesn't mean you're no longer centering the
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: steak on your plate.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: I don't like see what I'm saying.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, she.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 4: Wants to extract more resources from men. That means she's
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: no longer centering them in her resource extraction operation. No, yeah, right,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: you know there is a source of resources, lady, right
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 4: in front of you. There's a source of validation and
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 4: self respect that's right in front of you, right in
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 4: front of you. Okay, expecting more for men means you're
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 4: still expecting it for men.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: But you know what you could do.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: You could learn to give it to yourself in a
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 4: real way. Knowing how you do that, Acquire skills, maintain ethics,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 4: develop morals, advocate for things other than your NARC's supply, Like,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 4: you know, get out of your head and care about
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: something else besides yourself.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: What a wild concept.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: Wild huh mm hmm.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 5: On the other side, when a woman's identity still quietly
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 5: revolves around men, she becomes easier to fool and easier
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 5: to hurt. Sounds harsh, but sadly this happens too often
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 5: to ignore. She's more likely to accept the bare minimum
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 5: and call it love. She's more likely to cling to
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 5: situations that drain her because at least someone wants her.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 4: I hope you enjoy being alone, because the only thing
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 4: you've changed is how often you'll get validation from men.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: To be honest, like she said, Okay, I'm only gonna
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: get I'm only gonna I'm only gonna take validation from
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: men when they validate me even more. That means you're
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: gonna get less overall, right, Like this is this again,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 4: she's talking about validation for men. Now she's saying she's
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: not going to allow men to ghost her.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know how she's going to stop that.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: She's not gonna allow men to reject her. She's not
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: going to accept this.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: She's gonna like validation to try her best to not
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: care what men think.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: But obviously she's writing about it, so she does.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, you sort of do, writing a lot about it
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: and getting a lot of people in her comments going,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, girl, I feel that, you know, like.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 4: She's only going to accept she's only gonna accept steaks
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: from cows who are taught to respect her. Yeah, but
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 4: that means that you're you know, you're gonna have steaks
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: few and far between.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: You're gonna have less validation. Can you handle that?
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: Can you handle a restriction in your narc supply?
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, good luck.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 5: She's more likely to forgive things that should have been
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 5: deal breakers. Why, Because validation feels like survival, and when
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 5: you're desperate for validation, you'll ignore every red flag just
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 5: to keep it coming. It's not weakness, it's just what
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 5: happens when your self esteem is outsourced, and manipulators can
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 5: smell that from miles away. It's not about being pick
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 5: yeah cyn oh god yeah Okay.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 4: So she wants to do less to get validation from men,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 4: which means that she's She's like a farmer who doesn't
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 4: want to actually feed his cows but still want steaks.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: She don't want to do less. She's going to do
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 4: less to get validation from men, right, But that's she's
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: still getting it from men. That hasn't changed. She's just
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 4: decided that she lots less of it because she don't
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 4: want to make an effort.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: Yay, yay.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 5: People love calling strong women too picky or impossible to please,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 5: But it's not about pickiness. It's about finally seeing reality without.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: Is that a strong woman?
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: I mean like, I mean, I think the roles should
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: hold themselves to standards, but uh, there are There is
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: such a thing as unreasonable standards too.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 4: Yes, But also is this like has she demonstrated anything
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 4: approximating strength. She's essentially said that men are the source
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 4: of my narc supply, and I want to do less
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 4: and get more, but I don't know how to do that.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 4: And if that that doesn't happen, it's because men don't
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 4: respect me or women or something. It's like, no, no,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 4: If you want if you want nark supply from men,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 4: you do the work. And if you don't want to
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 4: do the work, then you get less and you.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: Live with it.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 4: Like I don't know why anybody has to be dragged
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: into this passion play in your own head.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Okay, all right, let's keep going.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 5: Fog of desperation. When a woman doesn't lose her mind
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 5: over a bare minimum man, it's not because she's high maintenance.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 5: It's because she knows she doesn't need a man to survive,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 5: or she's perfectly happy and content being alone. She chooses
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 5: love when it's healthy, not because she's starving for it,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 5: and that scares the hell out of the wrong people.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 5: I'll keep this short. The women who've dissent her really
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 5: glow differently. They don't move, don't to be chosen.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 4: The women who who want narc supply from men but
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 4: don't want to do the work glow differently, because that's
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: what she's defined lining. You know, they they they they
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 4: they want the validation, but they don't want to do
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: the work, and somehow they glow differently. They haven't actually
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 4: done anything to improve their need for the validation. Probably, well,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 4: I think that glow is the glow of like you
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 4: know how vampires have like a.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 5: Uh glamour.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: Like uh vampires.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 4: But other vampires have like this kind of like uh
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 4: charm that they're their hunger of this this this flock
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 4: of female narcs feeding on the herd of men. That
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 4: that's that that's the glow, the glow of the hunger.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 4: She's just you know what, I think you're right. I
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 4: think she's just trying to seduce her competition into.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: Into self sabotage.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think she's trying to seduce other
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: women into self sabotage by convincing them that actually those
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: men that they're after, they're just they don't really want them,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: They just want validation from them, and that basically like
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: opens things up for her. Plus the actually you do
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: need men even if you don't need them, in your
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: life as partners. You need them to keep society running
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: so that you can post these this bullshit opinion on
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: the internet and like have a house and electricity and
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: running water and sanitation and roads.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: Like everything else.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: But I'm just saying like there should at least be
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: an abstract appreciation for the civilization that men have built
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: for you, and there is just like I don't need men.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: I'm doing just fine with my job and part and
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: fossil fuels and light and electricity and water. Internet they
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: just grow on the Internet tree.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: They just fall from the sky. Otherwise they just.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 4: Otherwise, if they don't fall from the sky, it's men
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 4: not giving you the right to fall, to jump off
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 4: a cliff and not go splat. Yeah, okay, I think
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 4: that there's this is really frustrating. But in my conversation
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 4: with this feminist on Twitter, I think she's a feminist
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 4: and this is something that's becoming very clear to me.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 4: Women are many women do not understand the concept of
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 4: something outside men's control. They think if they jump off
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 4: a cliff and they go splat, it's because a man
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 4: made that happen. They don't understand that they made that happen.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 4: As a result of their actions. And it's like, so
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 4: you say women should figure out that men are responsible
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 4: for keeping the world, but I don't think that they
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 4: are able many of them are able to disconnect men
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 4: from the world. So you're basically saying that the world
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 4: is responsible for the world. And they're like, wha, what
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 4: but that men? And it's like they, like I said
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 4: in the beginning of this, or actually a little bit
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 4: wise decentering men, for most women would be understanding that
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 4: there are things outside of men's control. And even if
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 4: they don't want it to happen, they can't stop it happening.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 4: And you can't sit there and say to Western men,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 4: don't take our rights away when they're not the ones
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 4: taking them away. It's the simple fact that you haven't
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 4: performed as stewards of the culture, and you've constructed a
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 4: framework that's destroyed it to the point where it's being
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 4: taken over by a more effective culture.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: Right, And they don't understand that.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 4: It's like, oh, but it's men who are doing it.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 4: It's those mether men over there. No, it's the culture
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 4: they learn from their mothers that's doing it.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: Women on the in that culture.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 4: Who are creating a stable foundation for their men to
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 4: at least survive, whereas you are not doing that. That
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 4: is a direct result of your actions, not something that
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 4: men are failing to do for you, ladies.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: And I went over.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 4: And over and over this, and I'm like, it's like
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 4: trying to teach a fairal child how to talk. She
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 4: does not understand, and I do not know how to
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 4: make her understand that there are things outside of men's
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 4: control and when things happen to her, it's not because
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 4: men made it happen.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: And it's like this feminist.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 4: Ideology has poisoned women's minds to the point where they're
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 4: no longer functional, Like they no longer function to understand.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: Said it not me?
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 4: They no longer Okay, is it I wrong though?
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: No, No, no, you're not wrong.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: I'm just making a joke.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 4: Okay, it's they don't understand. This whole patriarchy narrative has
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 4: leden women to the point where they do not understand
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 4: that there are things outside of men's control.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so when you say things.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 4: Like maybe you should have some gratitude for men creating
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 4: the world, they hear maybe you should have gratitude, Maybe
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 4: maybe you should have gratitude for the world creating itself.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 4: It's like it just doesn't make any sense to them
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 4: because they don't understand that there's a world outside of
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 4: what men have created. They don't because everything is patriarchy.
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  Speaker 4: My hands are patriarch, my eyes are patriarchy, my hair
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  Speaker 4: is patriarchy. This desk is patriarchy. There is nothing outside patriarchy, Brian,
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  Speaker 4: So how how could there how could there be something
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  Speaker 4: that men have constructed the world out of when the
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  Speaker 4: world is literally the body of men.
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  Speaker 2: Like, that's true.
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  Speaker 1: It's like.
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  Speaker 4: Feminism has destroyed women's brain. I'm not even saying that.
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  Speaker 4: It's like made them not want to have children. It
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  Speaker 4: has literally destroyed their ability to understand themselves as full
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  Speaker 4: human beings and understand men as having limitations. And I
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  Speaker 4: don't know how to correct it at this point.
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  Speaker 3: It's terrifying.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yep, yep.
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  Speaker 1: That's why we need we need to propagandize them in
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: the upper in the opposite direction, Like that's what I think,
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  Speaker 1: that's the only way, all right, Let's listen.
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  Speaker 5: They chose themselves first, and it shows while other women
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 5: are stuck in a cycle of chasing, hurting, and forgiving
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  Speaker 5: too much. These women are out there living their lives,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 5: building their peace, protecting their energy. It's not bitterness, it's
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 5: not arrogance. It's clarity. And once you taste that, well, some.
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  Speaker 3: Women, some women are.
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  Speaker 4: They're they're protecting their cows from predators. They're feeding their cows,
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  Speaker 4: they're making sure to move them into into pastures with
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 4: better forage. When you know they're they're they they put
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 4: down the hay during the winter, they give them ve
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 4: you know, they shelter them.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: When some women are doing.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 4: That, other women are saying, these cows owe us their
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 4: meat and if they don't produce it, that's because they
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 4: hate humans. Therefore I should have to do nothing. And
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 4: again it's just a bunch of women praying on men
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 4: for NARCSIPI. That's it, that's all she's describing.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: I want to get more and do.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: Less because I deserve it.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because I deserve it because I have been excluded
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 4: from it by men, because men are not lazy. Did
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 4: you see bear Gellis Island the men versus women?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you talking about the one where the men were
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: like partying and struggling.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 4: Where they weren't partying, they were just really they were effective.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: Well I'm joking about that. I'm saying the men were affective,
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: but they were also optimistic. They were having a good time.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: Is that what you're talking about? Like they were they
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: were struggling together, but they were like they had each
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: other and it was cool.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there was.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 4: But one thing I noticed is their water was significantly
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 4: better quality, Like it was clear, whereas the female's water
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 4: looked like freaking poop water which they had to drink.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 3: But anyway, like.
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  Speaker 4: I recently listened to a commentary on it, and the
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 4: guy pointed out that more than anything, the women were lazy, right,
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 4: they just didn't work.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: They didn't want to work, right, they didn't want to work.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 4: They just sat and did nothing.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: They were freaking lazy.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 4: And the men they they would get up in the morning,
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 4: they would work and get down, you know, and then
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 4: sleep in the evening, get up, you know, sleep. The
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 4: women just didn't do anything, or they didn't do enough
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 4: to keep themselves in water and food. And it's like
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 4: this is just this is a narcissist, the female narcissist
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 4: saying I should have to do less for my narc
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 4: supply women most affected because she's lazy. I said has
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 4: nothing to do with any of these moral bullshit that
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 4: feminists make up. Like most of it comes down to
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 4: I'm lazy and I want men to do it for me. Right,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 4: I'm lazy, right I think, or I'm I'm self righteous.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 4: I think that I should have this because men have it,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 4: and I'll do it better even though I won't because
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 4: I'm self righteous. Right, I'm lazy, I'm self righteous, yes,
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 4: and all of these Also, I don't want to seem stupid.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 4: I don't want to seem stupid. It all comes down
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 4: to this desire to maintain this feeling that you are
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 4: the moral center, that you are smart and that you
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 4: are hard working when you're actually lazy. And it's this
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 4: maintaining this emotional feeling. But yeah, like we have listened.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 4: We have literally for an hour and a half listened
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 4: to a female narcs complain that getting that her narks
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 4: supply from men is too much work.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 7: And and and and the fact that she has to
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 7: do anything is centering men, which is something something feminism.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: Which it shouldn't happen.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 4: Men should just let it fall down, let their validation
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 4: fall from the guy. Okay, I'm I'm good if we
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 4: have anything left.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: No, I mean goes silent after that.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just her late pondering.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, pondering the orb all right. Oh well,
• 1:39:13
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• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: No, I was, but like there could be something.
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