Latest / Best of Business / Mark Beder: Spark New Zealand customer director for enterprise and government explains private 5G warehouse project
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- 0:16Speaker 2: Now, how cool is this? Spark has built the first
- 0:20Speaker 2: private five G network in the country. It's for Air
- 0:22Speaker 2: New Zealand. It's in Air New Zealand's large logistics warehouse,
- 0:25Speaker 2: and the network is now being used by drones and
- 0:27Speaker 2: robots in order to do regular stock takes that are
- 0:30Speaker 2: just really too hard for humans to do. Mark Beider
- 0:33Speaker 2: is Spark's customer director for Enterprise and Government. Mark.
- 0:35Speaker 3: Hello, Hi Heather, how are you very well? Thank you?
- 0:38Speaker 2: Now I understand these drones and robots are doing these
- 0:40Speaker 2: stock takes every ten days now because of this network.
- 0:43Speaker 2: How often were humans doing it?
- 0:45Speaker 3: They were doing it twice a year, so sort of
- 0:47Speaker 3: semi annually. You do a stock take and it normally
- 0:49Speaker 3: takes about ten days of preparation before you can actually
- 0:53Speaker 3: start the stock take. So in this case, it really
- 0:56Speaker 3: provides efficiency around how you can do a stock take
- 0:59Speaker 3: and how often our more you can do it as well.
- 1:01Speaker 2: Why is it so hard for humans? Is it just
- 1:03Speaker 2: because of the warehouse? Things are up so high.
- 1:06Speaker 3: It's the size of the warehouse, It's that you have
- 1:08Speaker 3: to scan every single item within an aisle. It's also
- 1:11Speaker 3: the height at these warehouses are fifteen meters high, so
- 1:14Speaker 3: getting to the top of the warehouse. So really it's
- 1:17Speaker 3: about how they can do this more efficiently and more
- 1:19Speaker 3: effectively over time.
- 1:20Speaker 2: And then how many drones and robots have they got
- 1:22Speaker 2: going at any one time on this.
- 1:24Speaker 3: At the moment, it's one, So it's a pilot and
- 1:28Speaker 3: they're using it pretty much through the evening to actually
- 1:31Speaker 3: do the stock take every ten days, no as often
- 1:35Speaker 3: as they need to really in the case, yeah, so
- 1:37Speaker 3: they can do it whenever they want really, so effectively,
- 1:39Speaker 3: what we've done we've worked with Ericson and also a
- 1:42Speaker 3: company good Cipher Robotics, and the private five G network
- 1:46Speaker 3: which is enabled by Ericson gives great coverage within the
- 1:49Speaker 3: warehouse and it enables the robot to go up and
- 1:51Speaker 3: down an aisle whenever required.
- 1:53Speaker 2: Well, why did you have to build its own little
- 1:57Speaker 2: private five G network? Why is it not just using
- 1:59Speaker 2: the regular five G network like the rest of us.
- 2:01Speaker 3: It provides more autonomy as the latency that you need
- 2:04Speaker 3: to actually run a warehouse, it's much more effective, it
- 2:08Speaker 3: gives better coverage, it provides them with their own individual solutions.
- 2:11Speaker 3: So it's it's not impacted by the broader network.
- 2:16Speaker 2: You're going to have to put that into the NES
- 2:18Speaker 2: assume I know nothing put that into normal people's language
- 2:20Speaker 2: for me, What does that even mean?
- 2:22Speaker 3: So what it really means is is that it provides
- 2:25Speaker 3: much better coverage within the warehouse from a connectivity perspective. Yes,
- 2:28Speaker 3: and it enables the robot to actually connect to the
- 2:32Speaker 3: network more effectively.
- 2:33Speaker 2: Okay, so thank you Mark, Now I understand it. Okay,
- 2:36Speaker 2: So it's not going to hit a black spot and
- 2:38Speaker 2: fall out of the sky type of thing like. It
- 2:39Speaker 2: will have absolutely five G everywhere inside that warehouse.
- 2:43Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's absolutely the aim of what we do with
- 2:46Speaker 3: a private five G.
- 2:47Speaker 2: Is there some AI going on here as well?
- 2:50Speaker 3: Not in this case. In this case, it's very much around. Well,
- 2:53Speaker 3: it is autonomous, so from that perspective, it is going
- 2:56Speaker 3: up and down the aisle autonomously. Yeah, so there is
- 2:58Speaker 3: a little bit of AI built into how it operates.
- 3:02Speaker 3: But realistically, what it does is it sets a course,
- 3:04Speaker 3: it looks at the aisle that it's going up and down.
- 3:06Speaker 3: It scans every single item from bottom to the top,
- 3:08Speaker 3: and that and then it concludes what they would class
- 3:11Speaker 3: as its mission.
- 3:12Speaker 2: Now this seems to me like a no brainer. Why
- 3:14Speaker 2: has it taken so long to get one of the
- 3:16Speaker 2: first ones underway?
- 3:18Speaker 3: It's it's really about bringing different types and looking for
- 3:21Speaker 3: different types of solutions for problems. And so the private
- 3:25Speaker 3: five G network within five g's always been there, but
- 3:28Speaker 3: really it's about what you built over the top of
- 3:30Speaker 3: it with different types of solutions. So you bring that
- 3:32Speaker 3: convergence together and you're looking for different types of problems.
- 3:35Speaker 3: So for instance, in a port there might be a
- 3:37Speaker 3: different type of solution that you need. In a manufacturing facility,
- 3:40Speaker 3: it's a different type of problem. So really this is
- 3:43Speaker 3: the first one of its kind in New Zealand and
- 3:45Speaker 3: hopefully there's going to be a lot more.
- 3:46Speaker 2: Yeah, Now what does it cost? I mean what is
- 3:49Speaker 2: if somebody is sitting there like thinkingg's I need one
- 3:51Speaker 2: of those for myself? How much money do they have
- 3:53Speaker 2: to scrape together?
- 3:55Speaker 3: Well, it depends on the solution, to be honest, and
- 3:57Speaker 3: it also depends on the type of private five G
- 4:00Speaker 3: network that you need, and there's there's so many different variables.
- 4:03Speaker 3: It's it's based on size of where you need the
- 4:06Speaker 3: private five.
- 4:08Speaker 2: Solution tens hundreds of thousands millions. What's the ball it
- 4:13Speaker 2: would be.
- 4:14Speaker 3: It would be in the hundreds of thousands up in
- 4:16Speaker 3: terms of the type of solution that you would need.
- 4:18Speaker 3: And it's it's really about it depends on the actual
- 4:21Speaker 3: requirement that you would need to go and build.
- 4:23Speaker 2: This is going to have a huge impact on in
- 4:25Speaker 2: New Zealand's productivity. O'd to manage, wouldn't it an accuracy?
- 4:28Speaker 3: Look, And that's that's the reason we did it. It's
- 4:30Speaker 3: a really good use case to help them become, you know,
- 4:33Speaker 3: a digital air line, a world leading digital airligne. So
- 4:35Speaker 3: and that was one of the reasons that we were
- 4:36Speaker 3: really keen to do it with in New Zealand because
- 4:38Speaker 3: that's their mission to be the world's leading digital aligned
- 4:40Speaker 3: So if we can help them do that, that's fantastic.
- 4:43Speaker 2: Yeah, very cool. Mark, Thanks very much, appreciate it, Mark Beta,
- 4:46Speaker 2: customer director for Enterprise and Government.
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