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Jaguars Happy Hour | Positives and Negatives From Week 2 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, September fifteenth.
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  Speaker 2: This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars Happy Hour is brought
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  Speaker 2: to you by Jet Home Loans and now a guy
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  Speaker 2: who was wondering why none of us were invited to
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  Speaker 2: Reb's birthday party.
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  Speaker 3: J P.
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  Speaker 4: Shadreck.
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  Speaker 1: Who's Reeber?
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  Speaker 5: That's the question of the day. Welcome in. It is
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  Speaker 5: Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 4: J P.
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  Speaker 5: Shadrick with you busy two.
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  Speaker 1: Hours ahead the Monday after the Jaguars lost to the
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  Speaker 1: Pingles in week two thirty one, twenty seven, the final
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  Speaker 1: plenty to dissect some good, some not so good. We'll
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  Speaker 1: get to it all missed opportunities late the Jaguars had
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  Speaker 1: it in their hands, they had a chance to win it.
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  Speaker 1: They had it in their hands multiple times and dropped
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  Speaker 1: it literally multiple times.
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  Speaker 5: We'll dig into that.
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  Speaker 1: We'll keep it real on the relationship between the head
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  Speaker 1: coach and the quarterback. When a viral sensation Today after
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  Speaker 1: the CBS camera has picked up some things on the field,
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  Speaker 1: fanat Expan questions in the second hour, and we'll go
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  Speaker 1: around the National Football League. We walk him in. Former
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars defensive lineman Austin Lane and studio with us today
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  Speaker 1: what's up?
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  Speaker 6: How are we doing?
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  Speaker 4: Man?
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  Speaker 6: I mean, let's keep it real right now. Can we
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  Speaker 6: get like an emotional support animal for this show today?
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  Speaker 6: Because I feel like we all need like a dog
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  Speaker 6: or something to kind of just sit here and pat
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  Speaker 6: and try to get through this this episode.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe we should go back to the grounding.
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  Speaker 6: I need more than I think Jesse mccarthur needs more
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  Speaker 6: than grounding man, because that was a that was a
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  Speaker 6: rough showing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was Pete Prisco with us in South I'm here, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: what's up, Pete? Good afternoon, I'm good.
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  Speaker 4: How are you guys?
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  Speaker 5: Good hanging in?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I woke up this morning, Pete, and the
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  Speaker 1: sky was still in the sky.
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  Speaker 5: It didn't fall. Imagine that.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Brian Thomas didn't drop it.
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  Speaker 1: Well that, you know, seemed to be a trend yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Look, Jacksonville Jayward should have won that football game, period,
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  Speaker 3: end of story. They had no business losing that game none,
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  Speaker 3: particularly once saying out Joe Burrow out of the game
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  Speaker 3: and when you look at what happened, and we're going
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  Speaker 3: to go through all of it, but in.
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  Speaker 4: The end, they had no business losing that game. They
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  Speaker 4: were the better team.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they didn't know Austin.
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  Speaker 6: They did lose it, and I get it. We can
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  Speaker 6: sit up here and say because I've seen the solver
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  Speaker 6: social media. I think Liam Cohen really answered the questions
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  Speaker 6: after the game with the press conference where there were
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  Speaker 6: some bad calls. Right, there was the Travis Hunter call. Sure,
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  Speaker 6: there was the Trey Von Walker call where it could
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  Speaker 6: have been a fumble, and then there was the call
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  Speaker 6: on Devin lad great interception where was he down or not? Okay,
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  Speaker 6: So three calls right there that could have made the
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  Speaker 6: difference in the game. But the point is we can
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  Speaker 6: sit up here and break those apart if you want to.
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  Speaker 6: That's not why they lost, right, And I think Liam
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  Speaker 6: Cohen's got to get this as well, where it's like
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  Speaker 6: you can sit there and say, all right, you know,
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  Speaker 6: Travis Hunter was a good player, Travis Hunter. We want
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  Speaker 6: to see the Bengals try to win the game and
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  Speaker 6: not get granted that that penalty, Sure, but how about
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  Speaker 6: the penalties on your set, you know, on your part,
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  Speaker 6: how about the self inflected penalty, the.
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  Speaker 1: Legal shifts that were all declined. What in the world
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  Speaker 1: was that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, had an illegal shift on a legal motion on
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  Speaker 3: the interception?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot to clean up, but there
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  Speaker 3: was a lot to like coming out of that game too,
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  Speaker 3: and a lot not to like.
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  Speaker 4: So wait, we're gonna die, right, I mean there are
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  Speaker 4: so many things.
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  Speaker 3: And look, the topic of conversation you talked about the
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  Speaker 3: quarterback and the coach.
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  Speaker 4: Relationship being the topic. No, that's not the topic.
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  Speaker 3: The topic is how a number one wide receiver has
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  Speaker 3: become a shell of himself. And we heard rumblings of that,
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  Speaker 3: and you guys saw it all summer long. What's wrong
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  Speaker 3: with Brian Thomas? Why won't he win the fifty to
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  Speaker 3: fifty balls? Why doesn't he practice well? Why is he
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  Speaker 3: had issues in practice all summer long?
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  Speaker 1: Remember last week on Keeping It Real, we said, was
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  Speaker 1: the seven target, one catch performance last week? Was it
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  Speaker 1: a blip on the radar or a sign of things
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  Speaker 1: to come? And we all kind of said, Okay, blip
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  Speaker 1: on the radar. Let's see how it goes. Now it
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  Speaker 1: goes to twelve targets, four catches, and a couple where
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  Speaker 1: he bailed out and didn't go catch the hospital ball.
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  Speaker 5: That's tough.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, but okay, let's talk about the hospital ball, okay,
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  Speaker 7: And I'm gonna reference Jimmy Smith, who questioned this toughness
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  Speaker 7: on Twitter.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys are at X, did
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  Speaker 4: you see that?
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  Speaker 3: And Jimmy Smith was a big time I mean, Jimmy
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  Speaker 3: Smith is arguably a Hall of Famer, I mean close
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  Speaker 3: to it. If his career doesn't get derailed, he probably
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  Speaker 3: gets in as a Hall of Famer.
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  Speaker 4: But he questioned his toughness. And if I'm a wide
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  Speaker 4: receiver in this league and.
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  Speaker 3: A guy of Jimmy Smith's stature has questioned in my toughness,
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  Speaker 3: there's an issue there. And now I imagine his teenags
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  Speaker 3: are going to start questioning his toughness. You know you
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  Speaker 3: said hospital ball, JP.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, was it really a hospital ball? Or did he
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  Speaker 4: just stop.
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  Speaker 1: The first one where he tipped it for the interception?
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  Speaker 1: And it wasn't running full speed? Right? I mean it
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  Speaker 1: was like kind of a short little cross and you know,
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  Speaker 1: a couple of yards away from a guy.
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  Speaker 4: Now there's two ways to look at that. Should he
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  Speaker 4: have was he sitting.
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  Speaker 3: Down because he saw those two guys in front of
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  Speaker 3: him or did he see them and when the ball
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  Speaker 3: comes he starts, oh no, and he pulls back.
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  Speaker 4: It might be a combination of the two.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Cohen said today that Okay, maybe he probably led
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  Speaker 1: him a little too far. Is the quarterback?
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  Speaker 5: Are some of that in there well?
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  Speaker 3: Leam also said that they ran that play against Miami
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  Speaker 3: in practice, and I don't remember it being run that
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  Speaker 3: way in practice that day.
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  Speaker 4: But my memory isn't as good as his. But I
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  Speaker 4: remember there was a play similar.
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  Speaker 3: To that where they looked like he started in the
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  Speaker 3: middle of the field and then ran up the field.
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  Speaker 4: They hit it for a big play. Do you remember that.
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  Speaker 1: I do remember that one, yeah, where he ran for
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  Speaker 1: about forty or fifty and Miami.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah again, Miami in the in the workout, Yeah there, Austin.
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  Speaker 3: Now, I don't remember one where you went in the
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  Speaker 3: middle and calling a pass like that, But my memory could.
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  Speaker 5: Be a wild well off.
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  Speaker 6: But guys, let's keep in mind here, even though it
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  Speaker 6: was maybe a glorified scrimmage in that setting, in that practice,
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  Speaker 6: very rarely are you going to have an opposing player
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  Speaker 6: on another team trying to take you out with the
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  Speaker 6: cheap I don't say a cheap shop with lowering a
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  Speaker 6: shoulder trying to deliver punishment, right like I heard it
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  Speaker 6: the whole time during that Miami Dolphins practice, how much
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  Speaker 6: bt Jay was shining, how much he was eating right, well,
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  Speaker 6: that that practice was kind of catered towards him, because
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  Speaker 6: you have safety, they're gonna come down and not deliver
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  Speaker 6: the hit on you. You're gonna have safties. They are probably
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  Speaker 6: gonna wrap up as opposed to maybe trying to lay
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  Speaker 6: you out. When we talk about a game setting, you know,
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  Speaker 6: against the Bengals, you saw a guy who was afraid
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  Speaker 6: to run across the field and take a hit. And
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  Speaker 6: I sent you guys this this morning, the text message.
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  Speaker 6: This stem from I believe the Pittsburgh Steelers game when
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  Speaker 6: he ran across the field in the preseason and in
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  Speaker 6: the preseason, he runs across the field, Yeah, he gets hit.
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  Speaker 6: Everyone you know that. The announcers acknowledge and everything. He
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  Speaker 6: pops right back up, he runs back to the huddle
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  Speaker 6: and everything. We think it's all fine. But I think
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  Speaker 6: that moment there showed that it wasn't fine because the
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  Speaker 6: very next week they run the exact same play against
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  Speaker 6: the Saints, and uncharacteristically, Brian Thomas Junior, instead of just
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  Speaker 6: catching the ball, he almost like baseball slides when he
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  Speaker 6: didn't have to because he's afraid to get hit across
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  Speaker 6: the middle, and that's what I think is happening right
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  Speaker 6: now with Brian Thomas Junior.
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  Speaker 4: No Austin. It's funny because he did that on Sunday too.
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  Speaker 4: Had a chance to catch a slant and run up
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  Speaker 4: the middle of the field. He had room there.
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  Speaker 3: He could have been a twenty five yard play and
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  Speaker 3: he slid down and the Bengals players like looked around, like.
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  Speaker 4: What the heck is going on here? Yeah, So he
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  Speaker 4: had that play, He had.
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  Speaker 3: The one arm play in the back of the end zone.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what the hell he was doing there.
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  Speaker 3: He was he was afraid to get blast on that play.
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  Speaker 3: And then the alligator arm in the middle of the
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  Speaker 3: in the middle of the field. That's three plays right there.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, he ran a shallow on that one cross.
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  Speaker 4: Near the goal line. He should have been a little
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  Speaker 4: deeper on that play, do you remember.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And so there's a bunch of them bad plays
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  Speaker 3: for him. And you know, we talked about the Steelers
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  Speaker 3: game that that hit maybe impacted him, but that was
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  Speaker 3: going on all summer and you weren't getting hit in camp,
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  Speaker 3: but he had. You heard rumblings when I was there,
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  Speaker 3: and I was there early in camp.
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  Speaker 4: You heard rumblings that he wasn't practicing. Well, he wasn't
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  Speaker 4: winning fifty to fifty balls. He wasn't he was having drops.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, the ball was on the ground a lot, Pete.
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  Speaker 5: To your point, so.
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  Speaker 4: Something clearly, And okay, I'll go back to May. Do
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  Speaker 4: you remember in May he hurt his shoulder.
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  Speaker 3: Remember in the mini camp when I got screened at
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  Speaker 3: for tweeting it out?
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  Speaker 4: Remember that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, and you're anpetual line stepper. That's what
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  Speaker 1: you do, Pete, you step up.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean the fans are behind me and the
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  Speaker 3: crowd tweeting it out.
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  Speaker 4: Why can't the reporters on the field. Okay that's a
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  Speaker 4: whole other issue. But but I think something happened with
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  Speaker 4: that day. Remember the shoulder got dinged up a little bit,
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  Speaker 4: he went off. He hadn't been he hadn't been the
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  Speaker 4: same guy since.
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  Speaker 6: But Pete, we sat here and said in the preseason,
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  Speaker 6: a just wait to the regular season, right, Like, I
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  Speaker 6: wasn't worried about it. You weren't worried about it. I
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  Speaker 6: don't think JP was worried.
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  Speaker 5: About said when the lights come on, he's gonna.
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  Speaker 6: Step up, and we saw that a rookie year as well,
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  Speaker 6: kind of quiet in training camp, maybe didn't make all
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  Speaker 6: these these splash plays and everything, but when the lights
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  Speaker 6: came on, we knew what we're getting. The difference now, though,
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  Speaker 6: is that the lights are on when they're the brightest,
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  Speaker 6: when the game's on the line, and he's not producing.
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  Speaker 6: So if you want to go back and say, Okay,
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  Speaker 6: it was that time in training camp with the shoulder
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  Speaker 6: is the cause, I'm gonna say it was against Pittsburgh
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  Speaker 6: running across, you know, the middle and getting it. Whatever
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  Speaker 6: the case may be. He's not being himself right now,
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  Speaker 6: and he's uncharacteristically not being in self, and I feel
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  Speaker 6: like there's a disconnect there between him, between Trevor Lawrence
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  Speaker 6: and between Liam Cohen, because if you go back and
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  Speaker 6: you watch that press conference after that Steelers hit, Liam
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  Speaker 6: Cohen addresses it and he said that was a bad
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  Speaker 6: play called my part, Trevor Lawrence should have throw him
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  Speaker 6: the ball, and Brian Thomas you has to catch the ball.
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  Speaker 6: So you have three guys to blame on that one play.
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  Speaker 6: And I think that's fester now into that Cincinnati Bengals
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  Speaker 6: giving to be watched yesterday of not being able to
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  Speaker 6: catch the ball.
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  Speaker 4: Here's the other thing.
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  Speaker 3: The body language is horrendous. And I'm gonna go back
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  Speaker 3: because I watch the tape.
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  Speaker 4: Today and you can get extra footage off that tape.
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  Speaker 3: Remember the ball down the sideline when he's one on one,
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  Speaker 3: it's a go ball, and Trevor threw a terrible ball,
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  Speaker 3: airmailed it by about ten yards.
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  Speaker 4: It was a terrible throw.
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  Speaker 3: The body language from Brian Thomas when he would walk
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  Speaker 3: back to the huddle, I.
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  Speaker 4: Mean not to the huddle, because he went to the
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  Speaker 4: sidelines was awful and.
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  Speaker 3: You could look in it as the camera pan back
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  Speaker 3: on the end Z shot, you could see Trevor look
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  Speaker 3: over there and kind of like his body language would
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  Speaker 3: give me a break, dude, because he had already dropped
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  Speaker 3: a couple of passes. And I think there's a real
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  Speaker 3: problem between the two of them. And I don't know why.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, we talk about the contact, that's a
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  Speaker 3: whole other issue, but he just doesn't seem like he's
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  Speaker 3: into it all summer.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and why I don't know. You know me,
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  Speaker 4: I was the biggest Brian Thomas guy. I said he
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  Speaker 4: was going to the next level.
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  Speaker 3: He was gonna be in the Chase Chase Jefferson conversation.
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  Speaker 4: You watched the other guy on the other side of
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  Speaker 4: the field, and.
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  Speaker 3: In that conversation, I could promise those no way right now.
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  Speaker 6: I think there is a situation right now that you
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  Speaker 6: have where he doesn't trust trust Trevor Lawrence, and I
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  Speaker 6: think you see that in the game. I think you
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  Speaker 6: see it in the body. Now, let's be honest, Like
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  Speaker 6: you wanna talk about Jamar Chase being an elite wide receiver,
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  Speaker 6: he also has a personality to match, right, like say,
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  Speaker 6: which one about Brian Thomas Junior. But he doesn't wear
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  Speaker 6: his emotions on his sleeve like a lot of like
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  Speaker 6: the diva quote unquote wide receivers do, so sometimes it
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  Speaker 6: may be kind of hard to tell what exactly he's thinking. Right,
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  Speaker 6: But I agree with Pete because I watched some of
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  Speaker 6: that film. Something's up, something's up in terms of the
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  Speaker 6: body language, the demeanor, and it's got to get fixed.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the question, though, how do you fix it? How
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  Speaker 1: do you fix it as an organization, as a team?
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  Speaker 3: Talk to him today, right, sit him down and say
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  Speaker 3: what the heck is going on with you.
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  Speaker 4: So you're an elite player. Dude, you are an elite player.
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  Speaker 3: If you're scared or frighting to go across the middle,
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  Speaker 3: you're never playing.
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  Speaker 4: In the NFL. You're done. You might as well pack
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  Speaker 4: your bags and go home. I mean, seriously, if he
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  Speaker 4: wont over the middle and the hospitabal thing, look, there
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  Speaker 4: were a couple of high throws, I get it, but
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  Speaker 4: you got to go make that catch. You got to
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  Speaker 4: get the The football is yours. Go get it.
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  Speaker 3: And so if he can't go over the middle, and
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  Speaker 3: he's afraid to go over the middle, he's not playing
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  Speaker 3: in the NFL.
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  Speaker 4: It's done. It's over you. I mean, you agree with me, Austin.
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  Speaker 4: If he's not going to go in the middle of
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  Speaker 4: the he's done.
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  Speaker 6: See. I don't think he's see. I think this is
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  Speaker 6: a mental block though, Pete right. And you know, being
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  Speaker 6: in an athlete myself, I've experienced that, not in football,
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  Speaker 6: but in fighting where I got knocked out by a
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  Speaker 6: right hand right and the next fight I was taking
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  Speaker 6: was against a guy who specialized in the right hand.
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  Speaker 6: So I was afraid to even get in there and
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  Speaker 6: start sparring because man, I don't get knocked out in
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  Speaker 6: front of you know, everybody again on national television, get
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  Speaker 6: embarrassed and things like that.
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  Speaker 5: We had to go back to the basics.
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  Speaker 6: Man, we had to go back to all right, throw
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  Speaker 6: it at me like half speed so I can see
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  Speaker 6: it like a hundred times, so I know how to
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  Speaker 6: react off it, just so I can see it.
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  Speaker 5: And that's maybe what it's gonna take here.
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  Speaker 6: Like, you know, I get, especially with social media and
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  Speaker 6: everything and former players, you want to sit here and
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  Speaker 6: say soft, he's soft. You know, right, he's afraid to go.
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  Speaker 6: That's not football. But what does that do? Like is
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  Speaker 6: that going to be any kind of benefit to call
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  Speaker 6: in somebody? Ah, yeah, you're soft, man, You don't you
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  Speaker 6: don't have anymore. No, Like I want to get the
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  Speaker 6: best out of Brian Thomas Junior. This is a first
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  Speaker 6: round pick. This is a guy who showed you that
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  Speaker 6: he can be a top ten wide receiver. So how
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  Speaker 6: about if you got to take him by the hand.
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  Speaker 6: Take him by the hand. But you need to reiterate
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  Speaker 6: like positive reinforcements, saying okay, man, here's what's going on.
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  Speaker 6: You're afraid to go across the middle, So let's drill
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  Speaker 6: it a million times in practice.
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  Speaker 3: But at when you went back in the ring, you
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  Speaker 3: weren't afraid of getting knocked out.
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  Speaker 4: You were afraid of the right hand.
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  Speaker 6: Sure yeah, And you know what, if you were afraid.
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  Speaker 4: To get knocked out, you wouldn't have gone back in
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  Speaker 4: the ring.
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  Speaker 6: No, of course, but I had to build myself up
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  Speaker 6: to that and guess what, and that fight because of
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  Speaker 6: the practice.
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: But there's some fear of the hit with him right now?
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: Sure not.
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: You know, he's not fearful. You know, you went into
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: the ring, you were fearful of something. You weren't fear
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: like if somebody.
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: Hit you with the left, you were You knew if
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: you were the left, you're still good, might have gotten
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: knocked out.
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: You weren't fearful of that. You were fearful of the
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: way you were gonna get knocked out.
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: I think he's just fearful of the contact, which is
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: the worst case scenario. But I think there's more to it.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's been the same kid all summer.
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: He's never been outgoing, Like you said, He's never had that.
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: You know, Jefferson's outgoing, Chase is outgoing. That's not who
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: Brian Thomas is. It's hard to get him to say anything,
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: you know, and I'm not around around the blade. I
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: hear that's the case. It's definitely, And you know when
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: you ask for interviews from him, he never wants to
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: do him.
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: From what I understand, he's a nice kid, but something's
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: going on.
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: With him that they have to figure out.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: And you say he doesn't trust Trevor, I don't think
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: Trevor trusts him.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: That'd be a two way street. Yeah, no doubt about that.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Let's come back in a moment. We'll get plenty more
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: on this. This is quite a topic and a big
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: piece of yesterday's game. There are a lot of other
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: pieces to get to as well, including on the defensive
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: side of the football.
• 15:55
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• 16:12
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• 16:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just like dang it, like dang it.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: It is early though, it's early, so I'm not gonna splinter.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: There's gonna be a lot to learn from it.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: No, no excuse at all.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, you gotta go win that freaking game.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: But get in the locker room in Cincinnati yesterday after
• 16:44
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• 16:50
  Speaker 1: YouTube JP, Shadwick, Pete Priss go to Austin Lane rehashing
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: this one. We'll get back to the offense here in
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: a little bit. But the defense, the Joe Burrow and
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, well, you knew Chase was gonna get get
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: some of his I didn't think it would be that
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: many in the game, Austin, but he was gonna get
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: and they were holding everybody else pretty.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: Quiet until the Higgins touchdown.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: And of course, you know Jake Browning comes in the
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: game and he'll go in the Ring of Honor in
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati with the two Jaguar games, so he's played. So
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: you got that going for you, Austin.
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, And I think Liam Cohen alluded to this
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: as well. You knew that Jamar Chase was going to
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: get his receptions and that was okay. My biggest thing
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: was is that you have to prevent the explosive plays,
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: because if you listen to any type of radio from
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: Cincinnati from Zach Taylor that week, the goal was to
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: get explosive plays, and they got it in spaces. And
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: I think a lot of it has to do in
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: terms of knowing when to blitz, knowing when to send
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: the house, and just knowing when to either rush for
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: or just split the linebacker. And I think they got
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: caught a couple of times sending way too many guys,
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: whether it's it's Browning or whether it was against Joe.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: Burrow, Yeah, and Austin.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: They they sent guys and dropped guys in a couple
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: of times. You remember on the one play to Chase,
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: you see he was in the coverage over there was.
• 18:13
  Speaker 8: Josh and then there was another throw to the right
• 18:18
  Speaker 8: side where Trayvon Walker was in coverage, and I'm not
• 18:21
  Speaker 8: sure how that worked out because it looked like Travis
• 18:25
  Speaker 8: Hunter was.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: Lined up wide on the guy.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: I remember it looked like he thought it was man
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: the man and kind of covered him in the back
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: Chase Brown. It was on that third down play Chase
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: that Brown kind of snuck out of the backfield. Members
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: swung out of the backfield, and he hit Chase Brown
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: for the first down. So I'm not sure if Travis
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Hunter is supposed to stay with that guy and man
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: the man coverage or he's supposed to take the flat.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: But either way, look, I think Campanelli's a good defensive coordinator.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: I really do. I think he gets creative. I like
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: what he does. I don't like teams that just sit
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: back and play straight defense. But I'm not a big
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: fan of having.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Your best pant structures and coverage too much. It's just me,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: never have been and JP. You know, I've said that
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: many times on this show. Once in a while.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: Okay, I mixed there, but yeah, yeah, but you.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Got caught with it, and you know, they got caught
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: in it a couple of times, and so I think
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: that was a problem. But they did it for you know,
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: they doubled Chase.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: A lot and it still didn't stop him.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: And when they did get caught in man the man situations,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: he took advantage of it.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: I thought Jerry Jones had some rough goes of it there.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Tyson Campbell too.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Tyson Campbell as well, Darnell Savage came in for a
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: couple of plays. You might as well just let him
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: complete him right in front of him. Two right, there
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: was the one in the middle of the field. If
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken, that was Giseki in the middle of
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: the field.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: That was Savage. He was on the.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Field when they dropped Winger down as the extra like
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: they play him as like the buck linebacker. They bring
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Savage out and play him and Murray deep you remember, Yeah,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: And then he hit Kaseki in the middle of the
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: field for that big play down of the ten. And
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: there was another one on the sideline where Savage, oh
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I know what it was on the long bubble screen
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: that Chase took in for a big play, quick throw
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: on the side. Savage took a terrible angle. He's got
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: to keep that at like a five yard play it
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: It was awful. So I'm not so sure it's a
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: smart thing to get him on the field.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: By the way, I'm gonna say this much of what
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: I observed.
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: Anytime there's a backup quarterback in the game, there's gotta
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: be blood in the water, right, Like It's simple as that,
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: Like Joe Burrow, you know, and Joe Burrow, by the way,
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: was kind of seeing ghosts out there, like he was
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: kind of tucking the role and before they even got
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: to him, right, So it showed that the defensive line
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: was getting home and it was refreshing to see them
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: get home with sometimes only four guys. When you look
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: at Browning coming in and you look at where he misstepped,
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: and he threw some bad balls right like a backup
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: quarterback does. Out of those three interceptions when they sent four,
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: it was in an interception every single time. Like out
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: of the three interceptions, it was only a result to
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: a four man rush. Whether it was a game or
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: whatever in the middle, but it was only a four
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: man rush. So to me, that tells me everything. Where
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: why not just have the guys stay back a little bit?
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: Obviously Brownie wasn't seeing the field. The only time he
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: really did see the field was when you were blitzing
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: and sending more guys and you had a wide open
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: Jamar Chase or a wide open t Higgins.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you. I think in that scenario you
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: probably shouldn't have come as much as you did. And
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: I think they backed off a little bit after a while.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: But you're right.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: You're like, Walker got on a stunt, he got in
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: the face of Browning and that's one of the interceptions
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: came on that.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm with you. I didn't think the plan
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: was as good as it could have been. Once the
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: backup quarterback in they played great. When Burrow was in there,
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: You're right, he was.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Spinning around looking for a lot of stuff that wasn't
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: even there at times.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: And I mean, if you go across the board, I
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: thought Walker had a really good game. I thought Walker
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: was outstanding. Hines Wart, I mean heins Allen.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Was good, not great, you know, rushing the pair, he
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: had some pressure. I think he had five or six pressures.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: The interior guys, they're the interior guys. I mean, that's
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: going to be a season long problem.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: Well, they had Mason Smith active this week to try.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: When he was in there, he was better than he
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: was the last time we saw him in Miami. I
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: can tell you that. And I think he needs to
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: be active going forward.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Maybe that sitting him down will be good for him.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: You know, Lloyd played pretty good football, had a great intercept.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: The interception was athletic. That's been his achilles heel has
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: been the coverage and being in the right place and
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: things flashing in front of his face and he's doesn't
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: know where to go. This is a perfect play.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, the Bengals didn't run the ball. You know,
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: it wasn't like would they end up.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: With forty eight yards yeah, rushing.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, so it wasn't an awful defensive performance. And
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: in fact, if you would give him the when the
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: pass went backwards, am I wrong?
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: Did that pass not go backwards?
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess they ruled that it was a
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: pass and then it got deflected or something that was
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: range to me, because it just went backwards the whole time.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: I thought, yeah, well they said his arm was going
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: forward and then and the ball was hit and then
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: but it still he threw it backwards and then Devin
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Lloyd wasn't down.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: No, they ended up not being down. Looking at it
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: should have been a touchdown.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: That's the.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: Championship game.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: Jack was down all over again.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, this is a great interception, by the way.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: I almost couldn't believe he did that. He almost against
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: the pass.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Look, he's not.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Did his knee go down though, can tell he doesn't
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: come down on it when his butt's on the guy,
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: so he's not down that way.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: But did his knee come down? He can't, really, I
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: don't know. He can't. None of these shots show it.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: I watched it on tape. You can't tell.
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: But but here's the point of it, guys, whether his
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: knee was down or not, don't blow the whistle there.
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: Let it, let it play out. Run to the end zone,
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: and then do your due diligence, go back to the
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: booth and tell us whether it's a touchdown or not.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I could see maybe the side of his leg might
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: have been the ankle, maybe something like that, you know,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: but that that might be about as close as it came,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: But they didn't get anything out of that.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the problem is that, Okay, hey, you got it.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: You're inside the tip fifteen yard line. Go score, Yeah,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: you can go score. That's allowed.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: Well, well, you know what happened the first play. Remember
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: they ran wide the etn.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Right and that play is there probably might have been
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: a touchdown if the right tackle makes his block.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: The right tackles in la la land.
• 24:31
  Speaker 9: What.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: I don't know what Sam watching because the guy slices through. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: he's watching.
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: Them because strange watching, but bypasses him here too because
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: he thinks he had them.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then this is the play where Cohen went
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: crazy right, and then you ran and then you ran
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: it right up the middle, which if you're running it
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: up the middle, aren't you saying I'm going to kick?
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, you want to burns clock right at that?
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: At that rate.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: Four minutes to go in the game, You're not burning clock.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, what do you what else?
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: You want to leave him five minutes? Four minutes?
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: But then so we're gonna But also, I'll be honest
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: with you, in that scenario, I probably would have taken
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: the field goal.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: I could see it both ways.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: He was adamant about that, though Pete like he was
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: adamant that that was the one hundred percent, no doubt
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: about it all.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: It's not always it's not I mean for the analytics
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: that say, okay, But did the analytics say that Jake
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Browning's in the game and he's gonna get the ball?
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? I don't.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: I don't necessarily agree with that. I think there's different
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: scenarios play out.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: You can have some feel to it. I can see
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: it both ways. I really can't.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: Would you rather have it?
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, his argument I think was, Okay, let's have
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: the backup quarterback from his own eight yard line down.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: Okay. The other part of that, JP is I can
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: spin it this way.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Would you rather have a backup quarterback knowing he need
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: to go get a touchdown rather than a.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: Field goal to tie it?
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: But they had also been gashing him in the kick
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: return game all day.
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: So then just kick to the end zone if you
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: have to. If you can't, in which I feel like
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: can't be well, they're at the forty yard line regardless.
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: I mean with Peter, Ryan was running pretty great, and
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: so that's why, al right.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: Well work on your work on your kickoffs, the land
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: and the landing air.
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: See here's here's here's why I agree with Pete. Sorry JP,
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: but because yes, the analytics don't say everything of the game,
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: and momentum is a big part there. Right, So you
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: throw it to Brian Thomas Junior, he drops it. You
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: don't convert. Now, Cincinnati, even though they're kind of backed
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: up a little bit, they have a new sense of life,
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: right where As opposed, you can kick that field goal,
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: you go up by six Jake Browning just to an
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: interception to you, right so right now, confidence for him
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: isn't that high.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: It's almost like you you gave him an injection.
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: Of life because you couldn't convert that fourth down as
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: opposed to going for the field goal, kicking it and
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: say all right, Jake Browning, you got whatever sixty yards
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: to try to compete us. Good luck to you.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: And the mindset changes if you know you're defending a
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: touchdown rather than a field goal to go to all
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: over time.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: It changes for the offense.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Knowing if they go get a field goal, they're going
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: to overtime, but they need it instead of rather than
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: need a touchdown.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: You know, that doesn't play into the analytics at all.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: The other part of it, too, is just execute the
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: fourth down play. We're not talking about this either, by
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: the way, which was a great.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: We do got to talk about the play with Theammie
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Brown and and Trevor and Liam.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: Co Yeah, let's get to that. We're gonna get that.
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: We're going to keep that real.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: Actually we are going to keep that.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: That's going to keep that real.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: Brown by the way, drop the touchdown pass.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: And yes he did. We'll get into that coming up
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: as well, and a little more on the offensive side running.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: The running backs were used in the passing game. Pete
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: a couple of touchdown receptions.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: It didn't run them though, no, they scored.
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: They run much though no they didn't.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: We'll get into like the third and two play, there's
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: some should they have run the ball on third and
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: two A We'll.
• 27:54
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  Speaker 9: I know he's kind of got to you know, he's
• 28:30
  Speaker 9: got a couple of things going on. Risk, you know,
• 28:32
  Speaker 9: add an risk injury going into the game, and you know,
• 28:35
  Speaker 9: do that have a play a part in some of
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: the stuff. I've got to go, you know, go talk
• 28:39
  Speaker 9: to him. But you know, I think he's aware of
• 28:43
  Speaker 9: it and needs to, you know, have a better week
• 28:46
  Speaker 9: this week. I think he understands what's at stake. He
• 28:49
  Speaker 9: understands what's going on, and we got to go get
• 28:52
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• 29:15
  Speaker 1: the wide receiver, he said, I didn't.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: Put that out there.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: It wasn't on the injury board either.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: So okay, so now you've opened yourself up the questions
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: about that. You've given him an excuse.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: I don't know why. I don't know why Liam did that.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Maybe he's trying to help help out the wide receiver
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: a little bit, I don't know, maybe take a little
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: pressure off, you know.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: But that was the problem, by the way, I don't
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: think the risk was the problem, because he put it
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: up to prevent himself from getting hit.
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: So he hit the football and caused an interception with
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: it so well.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, like, what was the one arm one? I
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: couldn't figure that one out.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: Was that the one in the end zone?
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: That was like he ducked too. It's like he put
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: his arm up that they kind of duck a little bit.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: It was a weird I don't know, but I mean, listen,
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: I don't think because it's like Pete echoed now, like
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: with the wrist, it's not it's a non story. I
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: feel like, if you're not on the injury report, then
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: why we bringing it up? And I get maybe this
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: is like a way of trying to have your players back.
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: You can't put a band aid over this, right, Like,
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: you have to address the real issue or it's going
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: to be.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: The problem all year.
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: It's gonna be the problem till it's not the problem.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: And that's just how I.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: Don't understand what that is right there when you what
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: this play, I just don't get it. Okay, the right
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: arm goes up the left one like flamms.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't put two hands up.
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: I'm telling you, he just he does not want to
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: go across the middle. It's as simple as that.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: And if you don't want to get hit, it's a problem.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: But how do you I mean, I think there's I
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: think all summer there's been something going on with him.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: He just doesn't look right. I don't just want to.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Say disinterested, but distracted. But yeah, and not urgency, you
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like he doesn't even when you
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: watch him run his route sometimes it doesn't look like
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: there's an urgency like there was last year.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: And I don't know why, because you know we talked.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: He's not a diva, so it's not that you know,
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: you would expect that from a diva. So I don't know.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: I just I just kids got so much talent that
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: just get focused. Just you know, if somebody sit him
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: down and tell him and Austin, you know this. You play.
• 31:35
  Speaker 10: You only have so many earning years in that body
• 31:38
  Speaker 10: of yours, and so whatever is going on to take
• 31:43
  Speaker 10: you focused away from being the best receiver you can be,
• 31:47
  Speaker 10: deal with it, because whatever happens, it'll be after.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: The seat, after your career is done, you can have.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: You have many days to roll around in your money
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: and worry about your problems, you know what I mean.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: Just you have to find a way. Hey, these are
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: your These are your this is your time. Make the
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: most of it.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: When you're on the practice field, make the most of it.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: Because it carries over the fact that that Liam Cone
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: keeps saying.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: He's got to have a good week, he's got to
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: have a good week. That tells you something's up with that.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: And remember JP when we were in Miami, he kind
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: of called him, He kind of called him out in
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: the press conference in the press conference setting that day
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: and said, this is what we've been waiting to see.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, absolutely so.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: I think if I sat.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Him down and sat across from him, man the man,
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: I tell him, Look, Brian, we all have stuff whatever.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: If something bothering you, whatever.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: You're not the same kid you were a year ago,
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: and practice wise and anything, then how do we get
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: it out of it? And if you have something going on,
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: don't let it fester to the point where it's impacting
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: your your play.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: Go out there and play and then deal with the
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: other stuff. See, I think you're not if there's something
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: bothering you? Is he you know? Does he not like guy?
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: Who knows? We don't know. Maybe he doesn't like the city,
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: Maybe he doesn't like you. JP.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Possibly I mean maybe, I mean, you know what I.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Mean, there's always everybody has crap in their lives. Sure,
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: and you get up and you know, there's another word
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: for it. You get up in the day during the
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: day and you go, oh, like, you know, some some
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: kind of crap is going to happen. Whether it's major crap,
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: minor crap. Crap is going to happen, and it's just
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: how you deal with the crap, right. But it's like
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: somebody's driving to work.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: And their tire pops and they get a flat tire.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: That's crap.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: You know, you spill your coffee on your lap as
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: you're going into the office, that's crap.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: It's how you deal with the crap that you get
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: through it. If he's got crap going on in life,
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: he has to deal with it and become and.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: Realize football is the bill payer. Football is your life.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: Right now, and you got to figure that out.
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: You got to figure it out for sure. But it's
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: just it's not that easy. I feel like Pete to
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: just ask this guy, right, because if you talk about
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: the modern NFL player, everyone's out going, everyone's got their
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: own Twitch channel, and everyone's on X you know, tweeting
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: their opinions and everything. Brian Thomas Junior isn't that guy,
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: Like he's almost a throwback, if you will, of what
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: a modern NFL player should be, and we want to
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: talk about he's not a dvo. Like if something was
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: bothering Tyreek Hill, if something was bothering aj Brown, I
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: guarantee that coach would know about it the next day, right,
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: and then they would try to squash it. Brian Thomas
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: Junior isn't that guy. So that, to me, it's almost
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: on Trevor Lawrence. It's on Liam Cohen to literally take
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: this dude by the hand and say, all right, man,
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: what's going on? You know what can we do to
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: give you more confidence?
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: What do you need?
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: And if the answer isn't good enough, then keep pressing
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: him and pressing him. And it's not good enough, well
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: then you know what you got Parker Washington right now
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: playing at a very high level, who's just asking for
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: more reps. Like if that's the worst case scenario, then
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: so be it. But this has to just be more
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: than hey, man, you're not playing well, It's okay. We're
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: gonna keep a throwing the ball like we're past the
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: point on the bat. Now, yeah, that all went out
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: a window.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: How long can you go on with this?
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Like, Okay, when do you look at it and say, well,
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: maybe Parker Washington needs to get on the field.
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: If this is a problem in Houston, then I mean
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: what else can you do?
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: You can't let too many games slip away like this, Yes.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: You can.
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: I give you to Houston.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: I mean at some point that the guys in the
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: locker room will notice this too. Clearly they already have.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I'm guessing.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: But and he and Loaston. You watch a tape when
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: you put Parker Washington on. He plays hard, he plays fast,
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: he's tough, he goes against the football. I mean he ain't.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: He's not skilled like bro He's not skilled like Brian Thomas.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: We know that.
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: See this is why I think it's as simple as
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: him ran across the middle without being this this point
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: to death. Because if you watch Brian Thomas Junior in
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: the run game, he's still putting.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: Forth that Brockett's blocking.
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: And listen, not every wide receiver is willing to block
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: because honestly, on the paycheck doesn't really matter. Like if
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: you're gonna negotiate a new contract, you think you're gonna gotiate. Oh, well,
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: I'm a good blocker. Check out this film. No, it's
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: it's a reception. It's targets, its touchdowns, like that's what
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: pays the bills. So you have a guy Brian Thomas Junior,
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: who's still willing to block, who's still wanting to put
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: that effort out there. That means to tell me that
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: it's not just an effort who he's tired of the team.
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: It shows that there's something in the psyche where he
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: doesn't want to run across the field.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: And think about it, the best plays had all year.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: It wasn't going across the middle or catching a pass,
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: was it. It was the reverse for a touchdown?
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he did.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: You could see what you can It's not like you're
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: going in there looking at the ball gonna get blasted.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: You can see what you're gonna get, where it's coming from,
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: and where you're gonna get a hit.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: We continue on our offensive discussion and we get into
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: the running back room, newly revamped with the trade of
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Tank bigsby after week one. So Bank, he's out of
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: here and he ain't coming back anytime soon.
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: ETN.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Fourteen for seventy one. That's five point one average two
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: and eight for forty two. Quinn Allen had a couple
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: of carries for thirteen yards, but only twenty twenty four
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: carries from running backs in the game Pete and you know,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Liam Cohen said today that there might have been a
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: few more, but maybe they were checked out of at
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. But they didn't run as much
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: as they did pass, certainly forty two attempts through the
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: year for Lawrence.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: You know what, you know what here I like.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: There's some concern about that, but there's something I like
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: about that.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: They ran for over two hundred last week and they
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: were physical.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: So you figure they're going to go to Cincinnati and
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: they're going to line up and play power football and
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: try and run for one point fifty. But rather than
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: do that, they went there and chucked the ball around
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: and did a nice job throwing the ball around and
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: didn't really have to run the ball because they moved
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: the football. But you go back to what you are
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: as a team and what your identity is going to be.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: They want to be a physical run the ball and
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: you know, try and take shots off the run, and
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: they didn't run the ball.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: So there's a couple of ways to look at it.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: I kind of look at it.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: I'm okay with the game plan. I thought it worked.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: But I also in certain situations I would have a
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: third two. I probably would have run the ball. What
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: was that the forty seven? Is that where they were
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: at in that drive? Somewhere around there? Yeah, yeah, you
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: run the ball in that scenario. If you get two yards,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: you got a first down, you start, you know, keep going.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: If you don't get the first down, then you got
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: a decision to make.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: And so what they do. They threw deep on that play,
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: didn't they? I think they did.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: They throw to Thomas on that plate too, they did? Yes,
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: so And by the way, I'd love their running back room,
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: you know that. You know what I feel about Toot.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: I think that kid's on the way to start him,
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: I really do.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: And Etn has been a pros pro. I mean give
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: him credit. Everybody said he was going to be out,
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: he's gonna get maybe he get traded. His job's not
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: going to be his, and he's put the work in
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: and he that's what he does. He puts his head
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: down and he goes to work. So I like the
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: and liquid out.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: I tell you, what, did you see that video I
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: sat out on Twitter of him plasting Logan Wilson.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: I mean he goes looking for work?
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, dude put his right in the ribs. It
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: was a beautiful block there.
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: You know, when we talk about this run game and
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: what your identity looks like, I get the whole goals
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: to try to get the whole offense involved, right feed
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: Brian Thomas Junior, get Travis Hunter involved, give you know,
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: get the stat boost for Trevor Lawrence. But so far
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: this running game, like did this running back room. They're
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: the most dependable thing on this team set aside of
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: offensive line in terms of run blocking as well, Like
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: this is the most dependable thing you have. And it's
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: funny because I have to talk to the JP during
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: the break here. When I started in the preseason of
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: like what I want to see more than anything, I
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: didn't care about wins and losses. I just wanted to
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: see Trevor Lawrence get elevated. I'm changing that too now
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: to I just want them to run the football and
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: I'll and almost make it secondary and passing, because if
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: you got to be the Tennessee Titans of a couple
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: of years ago with Derrick Henry so be it. But
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: that's how you win football games right there, Like if
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: you would have kept on pounding the rock, inflicting your
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: will and running down that clock, I think you would
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: have won that game easily in Cincinnati. But you want
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: to go toe to toe, and it was working until
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: it wasn't.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think they have a home run hitter
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: in two and two. I mean, that's a home run hitter.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: That's that's a guy that can turn you know, six
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: yard runs into forty five yard runs.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: You know that that's special.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: And so I think they need to kind of lean
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: on that a little bit more. And you're starting to
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: see him get more carries if you knew he would
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: once Bigsby was gone. But I think he's gonna get
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: more and more carries. He he's the best runner, let's
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: be real.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: Et has done a nice job, but he doesn't have
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: the jump cut.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Ability and and and you know, and even it's a
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: little physical runner for a little for what's kind of
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: a little back. I mean, like you saw the two
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: passages he caught, put his foot in the ground and go.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: I mean he made that it was a lineman who
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: dropped in the coat.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: They got caught one of those two on that play. Yeah,
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: well designed play, by the way, I'm gonna give them.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna give Liam Conan. They said they showed screen
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: action to the other way and then came back and
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: threw that to him. Did you see that? Did you want?
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: Did you?
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: Of course? Because I mean they were trying to blitz
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: in everything, and it was it almost seemed like a checkdown.
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: But it was the right call at the right time,
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: trying to counter that Cincinnati blitz. And I don't think
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: if it was a line I mean there was a
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: lineman that dropped back into coverage and he was putting
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: ice skates. But even if it was a linebacker of safety,
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: I feel like Towton makes that play there in scores
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: like it goes to one down.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: The sideline was also when he caught that ball out
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: of the backfield too. I mean, he's got juice. There's
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: juice there, and and that's an offense right now. Let's
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: be real. Without Bryan Thomas doing anything, and without Travis.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: Hunter doing a whole heck of a lot on offense,
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: that's an offense without juice.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: Would you agree.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: You gotta have some juice.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: You gotta have Juiceton has juice.
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: We're looking for that juice. Gotta have that juice.
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: Otherwise they play in a pole booth.
• 42:00
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• 42:04
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• 42:06
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  Speaker 9: You know, I really don't believe in you know, putting
• 42:47
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• 42:50
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• 42:53
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  Speaker 4: I don't believe that.
• 42:56
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• 43:03
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• 44:06
  Speaker 1: to them coming up. But the Rams over the Titans.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Titans lose again. That's good for everybody, Pete.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: They were bad on Sunday.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: The defense, which had played well the first week against Denver,
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: was terrible on Sunday, and cam Woard didn't play very well.
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: He threw a touchdown pass if you go, I don't
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: know if you guys saw that.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: He was flushed to the right and threw clearly across
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: the field as a laser. But he's in the pocket
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: and there's no real pressure and he somehow leaves it
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: and ends up to the right.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: You know, those young quarterbacks will lead very won the
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: very good game for the Titans.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: Good's that's positive. We like that on the Titans.
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: They're not very good. They're not very good.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: No, and let's hope that stays that way for a
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: long time. Colts over the Broncos. The Colts have not
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: punted in two games. Is the first team in league
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: history to have not punted in the first two games
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: of a season. Austin, that's unbelievable.
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: It's unbelievable. The cult story, I feel like, is a
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: little unbelievable. What's going on there. I talked about it
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: with you during the break I'm not sure if you're
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: following it. They have been following carly Ers and the
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: daughters taking over that team. She's got an ear piece
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: on the sideline. She's listened to every single play call.
• 45:12
  Speaker 6: She's she's listening to coaches calls. She's in the weight room,
• 45:16
  Speaker 6: she's in the meeting room, like and they asked her
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: why are you doing all this? And her I love
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: the quote. She goes, I'm paying millions of dollars, millions
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: of dollars to these people. I want to see where
• 45:25
  Speaker 6: my money's going.
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: Money, daddy's money.
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: Oh what daddy, Well, Daddy's money, it's hers now. Hey,
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: mark my words. Man, if they go like six and
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: oh or seven and oh, Disney's gonna buy the rights
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: in the movie because there's three sisters that are like
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: running the organization right now. And if they go, you know,
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: six and oh, Disney, give them a call.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: You know, it's amazing that not only did they not
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: punt in two games, they scored on their first tenth
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: possessions of the season.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: It's amazing.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: I mean, Daniel Jones, I mean, think about that. But
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: they were at home, right two games at home. Miami stinks.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: We know, that Denver might not be as good as
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: we thought they were either.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: You know, they struggled with Tennessee last week, and Tennessee's
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: not any good and their defense was just horrible on Sunday.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: So doesn't Indie play at Tennessee this week?
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: So Tennessee's not any good, but it's still your first
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: time out on the road.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: When you open at home two games, that's a major
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: advantage for your team.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: Early.
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: Look at Monday night football. It's game one of a
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: double header.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at one to
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: o head to Houston to face CJ. Stroud and the
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Houston Texans at owen one. We'll preview the second game later.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Who you got it?
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: NRG Stadium, Austin. I like the Texans here at home.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: I do too, Yeah, I do too.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: And you know the Bucks are the better team.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: But you're playing consecutive road games against the team playing
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: its home opener on Monday night.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: That's a tough fast for any team. Wow, So I'm
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: gonna take the Texans as well.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: All right, two Texans picks. We're back in a moment.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: It's hour too. A whole other hour of this program,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: we'll get We've got a long list. I think Pete
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: has one. Anyway, we'll find out in a moment A
• 47:17
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• 47:25
  Speaker 9: Well, that was a combination of data and gut where
• 47:30
  Speaker 9: you're saying, okay, who's on the other side, other quarterback,
• 47:33
  Speaker 9: you're opposing quarterback on the road.
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: You know, to go up six there.
• 47:40
  Speaker 9: That We've watched that scenario play out too many times
• 47:43
  Speaker 9: in my game management meeting for me to not feel
• 47:46
  Speaker 9: one hundred percent confident with that decision. You watch so
• 47:51
  Speaker 9: many opportunities.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: Where you do that.
• 47:53
  Speaker 9: You take, you go up six, you kick it off,
• 47:56
  Speaker 9: they get the ball at the plus thirty to thirty
• 47:59
  Speaker 9: five yard line, and now their mindset is touchdown, and
• 48:03
  Speaker 9: so you go down, and they go down and score,
• 48:06
  Speaker 9: and you lose by one point.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: You guys would all be killing me today anyway.
• 48:09
  Speaker 9: So at the end of the day, I want to
• 48:12
  Speaker 9: be aggressive and give ourselves a chance to go close
• 48:16
  Speaker 9: games out on our terms.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Willam Cohen earlier today discussing that fourth down decision to
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: go for it.
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: And try to put the game away.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: They didn't get it, and the Bengals drove down for
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: the game winning touchdown with eighteen seconds to play. And
• 48:33
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• 48:46
  Speaker 5: Shadrick with you.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Here is what happened yesterday, Bengals over the Jaguars thirty
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: one to twenty seven. Jaguars seemed to be in control
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of the game. They never trailed until the
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: final touchdown, but had lack of execution in big moments
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: in the game, including plenty of drops from receivers in
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: key moments, certainly a touchdown. Brian Thomas Junior had issues
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: in the game, twelve targets, only four catches for the
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: former pro bowler, and the Jags defense couldn't get off
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: the field in the final drive on a fourth down play,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: and then pass interference call on a second fourth down
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: play flipped the field and kept the drive going for
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: the Bengals at the end. Jake Browning entered the game
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: for the Bengals in relief of injured Joe Burrow, who
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: now is gonna have to miss about three months of
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: the season with a toe injury surgery upcoming for the
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Bengals quarterback, but Browning led the Bengals to another win
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: over the Jaguars, the second time he's done that wearing
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: a Bengals uniform, and now the Jags left looking for
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: answers to how it all fell apart. Up next a
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: division rival in town, the Houston Texans, the only divisional
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: game for the Jags in the first nine weeks of
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: this season. JP Shadwick Austin Lane with me here in Jacksonville,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Pete Prisco down in South Florida, and plenty to dissect
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: this game. And we've done it in the first hour,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: and he can bring it over to hour number two. Pete.
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: And what do you think of.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Cohen's comments on the fourth down? We talked a little
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: bit about it earlier, but that was his view of
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: why he went for it.
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: You could hear see it both ways.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, I could understand why he went for it.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: I could also say that I wouldn't have gone for it.
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: And for my thinking being, I think the game changes
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: when the quarterback knows he has to go get a touchdown.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: You know, everybody said, well, it's a move point. They
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: went and got a touchdown. But if he knows he
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: needs to go get one, you don't know how it's
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: going to be played. It'll be played differently, And so
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: I think I could see it both ways.
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: I would have gone for it. Actually, if you look
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: at it from his standpoint, he called a play, the
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: play worked, and.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: The wide receiver dropped the ball because if he catches that,
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: he falls for the first down. At least he might
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: get into the end zone and then the game's over.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: So I could see it both ways, Austin.
• 50:59
  Speaker 6: So, Okay, I mean I I don't see it both ways.
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: I would have kicked the field goal because and he
• 51:10
  Speaker 6: said it, And I love how candid he is and
• 51:12
  Speaker 6: how transparent he is. It's really refreshing. You don't see
• 51:15
  Speaker 6: that a lot around the NFL. But if we're sitting
• 51:18
  Speaker 6: here on a Monday and say they go up six
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: and then Jake Browning drives them all the way down
• 51:24
  Speaker 6: the field scores a touchdown to win the game, I'm
• 51:27
  Speaker 6: not gonna blame Liam Cole in that situation. I'm gonna
• 51:30
  Speaker 6: blame the defense, right That's that's where my blame is
• 51:32
  Speaker 6: gonna go. My initial thought wouldn't be well, Liam Cohen
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: then should have went for it, especially on what a
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: fourth and four, fourth and five.
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: It wasn't like fourth inches. It was five for fourth
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: and five.
• 51:45
  Speaker 6: And my other argument's gonna be, you know, you said
• 51:48
  Speaker 6: Brian Thomas Junior's wrist was bothering him, and you said
• 51:51
  Speaker 6: that leading into the game. So if that's the case,
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: then and this was a design play, and yes, the
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: play was open, right, receivers gotta make the catch now
• 51:59
  Speaker 6: you can. It can be up for debate whether or
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: not he would have got it first down because he
• 52:02
  Speaker 6: was right by that line and there were safeties closing
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: in so that they might have actually stopped it.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: Was Logan Wilson. It was Wilson, the linebacker.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Was okay, I'm sorry, the linebacker.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think he would have made it.
• 52:12
  Speaker 6: Logan probably.
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, I just think I think. I think Logan,
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: what do you do?
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: No, I was thinking about so I was talking about
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: I was talking to somebody on text just before he
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: did the.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: Game, right, Logan, Ryan, Yeah, right, this is Austin Lane.
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: I don't know if you have met.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: I think he was. I think he would have made it.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, because Logan Wilson was.
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: Coming after him, but I think he would have ducked
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: underneath and made the first time. I don't know if
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: he would have scored a touchdown.
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: Okay, and that's fair, But once again, I think if
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: that's what we're talking about, where okay the rest, I mean,
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: you're gonna put it up to Brian Thomas Junior. Then
• 52:50
  Speaker 6: to go into that football game, and maybe this was
• 52:53
  Speaker 6: Liam Cohen going, hey, Brian, you know what, we understand
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: that maybe confidence isn't there right now. Let's give you
• 52:57
  Speaker 6: the ultimate confidence and let you win the football game.
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: Maybe that was a thought, but at the end of
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: the day, it didn't work out. And at the end
• 53:04
  Speaker 6: of the day, if you would kick the field goal
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: go up six, I'm not blaming the head coach.
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: Then if they score a touchdown and go up by one,
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: I'm not.
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: Well, here's the other part of that equation too. You
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: called that draw to Allen on third down. You clearly
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: called that with the idea you were going to kick
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: the field goal, right, you don't think you're popping.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: That, Yeah, Well maybe he didn't think they were gonna
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: pay yeah, and then they did pop it a little bit.
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: Maybe they popped it for eight, you didn't pop it
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: for eleven.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: To get within five yards, and maybe they had a
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: good five yard play which they showed.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: See, I think he was playing for the field goal.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: If he wasn't playing for the field goal, he probably
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: would have thrown it on third down, right, you would
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: think so. So he he he changed his mind, let's
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: put it that way, when he got to five yards,
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: which five yards isn't That's not easy in the NFL.
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: That's hard. That's a long and down in distant situations
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: what it is. So yeah, I would have kicked. There's
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: no doubt in my mind. I would have kicked.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: So we're talking about this, but the defense did still
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: give up the drive after that. Sure, short of they
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: had him on fourth down on.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: Fourth and Travis Hunter makes him that's a bad no, no, no.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about the first fourth down they had on
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: fourth and three at their own fifteen is the swing
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: or thirteen? Yeah?
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah? That was That was when they dropped That was
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: the play where they dropped out. Travon Walker and Travis
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: Hunter played man the man. I can't tell what he
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: I watched that over and over again.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you watched it Austin on the tape,
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: but I have I couldn't tell who defense was Travis
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: Hunter playing.
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: I think he's a man. The man.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: Somebody's got to cover that that flat and I don't
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: think Dravon Walker could get out there.
• 54:53
  Speaker 6: I think there was a little disconnect there in terms
• 54:55
  Speaker 6: of that, Yeah, what they were supposed to do, because yeah,
• 54:58
  Speaker 6: that's that's a lot to ask defensive end to stop that.
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: Right. By the way, that's something we haven't talked about
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: at all. Travis Hunter played eighty one plays. You come
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: away from the game thinking, wow, those are fifty great plays.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: It was kind of a pedestrian day. I mean what
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, he played a lot more in the second half.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: I thought on defense, But what did he do when
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: you really I thought the play I'll give credit for
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: to play on the pass and Freerce that.
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: Was not Pa, That's a great play, right, yeah's turn
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: your head, you make the play and he knew he
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: hit the ball and he made it.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Play a Hunter on offense six targets, three catches, twenty
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: two yards. Then on defense he had a couple tackles
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: in a pass defense.
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: They got to figure out something here. You traded up
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: to go get a player you're going to be featuring
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: on both sides of the ball.
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: You got to figure out something here.
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: And listen, this is the thing too, where when you
• 56:05
  Speaker 6: talk about defense, he's not going to be highlighted all
• 56:07
  Speaker 6: the time.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: And that's okay.
• 56:08
  Speaker 6: Like if he's shutting down his side of the field,
• 56:10
  Speaker 6: if you're in Zoner, you're taking a guy man to man,
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: they don't throw the ball. That's a positive rep then
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: for Travis Hunter.
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: But on the on the field on defense, don't you
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: guys a great Hunter? Yes?
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Is he better?
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: I mean especially if Jones and Campbell are going to
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: play like they played.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right right, it should be.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: I think he'll take Jones spot and then then you'll
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: see maybe Jones will push Campbell, who knows. But he
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: should be on the field full time as a corner.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: But here's see the way he plays, he should be
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: on the field.
• 56:39
  Speaker 6: But here's the issue too with offense, the offensive snaps
• 56:41
  Speaker 6: where three receptions for twenty two yards? Like you see
• 56:44
  Speaker 6: what Ted McMillan's doing right now for Caroline. I'm not
• 56:46
  Speaker 6: sure if you guys watched him yesterday, but yeah, he
• 56:48
  Speaker 6: had another pretty great game because they're looking his way
• 56:51
  Speaker 6: like he's he's the true one receiver. And I understand
• 56:53
  Speaker 6: that Travis Hunter wasn't really brighter to be necessarily the
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: one wide receiver because what we thought we had a
• 56:58
  Speaker 6: guy in Brian Thomas Junior here.
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: But the draft caple you gave up to get him,
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: he needs to get the ball.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: See here's the other part of the problem. He only
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: plays the one position as a receiver. He doesn't you know,
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: he doesn't play him.
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: He doesn't know them all.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: I don't think and so because you know it's overloaded
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: and so understandable, but don't you would you like to
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: see him get down the field?
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: Some have they tried to get him?
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Maybe the one that was intercepted last week down the
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: field he was deep on that play against Carolina, Yes, on.
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: The over route when when he when it would have
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: been a big playoff.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: I don't remember many others.
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: I mean, he had the one play where it was
• 57:39
  Speaker 6: tipped and he didn't catch it, but that wasn't even
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: designed to him.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna ask you guys this, this is a
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: legitimate question. What's his signature offensive play right now?
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: His signature offense No.
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: Not not the not the I mean the style of play.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: What's what's what's the Travis Hunter go to.
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: Oh, it's like a five yard stop route.
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: No, it's a bubble screen screen inside tunnel screen to
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: the left, to the right, to the left.
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: I want to see him get get down the field.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: I want to see him and in fairness to them
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: as a staff, if he seemed that and I don't
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: know if you saw this, he seemed to have problems
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: with guys putting their hands on him a little bit
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: on Sunday, knocking them off his route a little bit
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: like even the interception that Trevor threw where Walker Little
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: played spinning top and Hendrickson went through him. Then that
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: play he got beat up a little bit at the
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: line of scrimmage and couldn't really get the depth he
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: needed on that route if you go look at it.
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: So did you notice that?
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: I noticed that? But what also I noticed, like, I
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: don't think in terms of the offense, in terms of
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: the motions and everything, I don't think he's quite there
• 58:46
  Speaker 6: at either in terms of how competent he feels, because
• 58:48
  Speaker 6: I feel like a lot of those penalties and I
• 58:50
  Speaker 6: don't think the shifts.
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: I think he said it after the game that I
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: was responsible for a couple of at least a couple
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: of those.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: And you can see him getting lined up sometimes too,
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: They line him up everything.
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: It's just it's tough.
• 59:02
  Speaker 6: But but we're talking about the pre snap stuff and
• 59:06
  Speaker 6: you're not confident with that, then how you be confident
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: trying to run her out? Like if if you're in
• 59:11
  Speaker 6: your own head right now, trying to get lined up properly,
• 59:14
  Speaker 6: trying to shift properly. And that's the conversation we're having
• 59:17
  Speaker 6: right now, Well, then how's it going to work when
• 59:18
  Speaker 6: the balls actually snapped?
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  Speaker 3: Like you're saying, I could, Yeah, but I could put
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: them out wide once in a while and say, hey,
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: run that nine out and say hello to everybody.
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Because he hasn't run any
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: he hasn't run a lot.
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: So put him out there and get him in that
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: Jets motion and reel them and run the nine off
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: of that and see what see if anybody you know,
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: because nobody would be it will be expecting it.
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's such as you could see.
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: His stop and start ability when he catches those quick throws.
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: He's on the verge of popping out of those once
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: in a while. But I also think you can get
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: him down the field once in a while, like those
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: that deep over against Carolina.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: I like that route, just under it.
• 59:55
  Speaker 6: And the beauty with him too is that he's because
• 59:57
  Speaker 6: there's some wide receivers that are just like fast twitch
• 59:59
  Speaker 6: that you can tell it's going to be a deeper,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: and there's some wider.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: Series are just smooth. Right.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 6: DeAndre Hopkins back in his prime was just a smooth
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 6: route runner. Like I mean, he wasn't the fastest, but
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 6: he was so just that he was great. He was
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 6: he was fluid in his routes and everything. You can
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 6: never tell who he's going to go. I feel like
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 6: Travis Hunter has some of that in him. So like,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 6: I agree, let him go deep. See what he can do.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: Back now you'd have to say the grade on that
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: right now for him would be a C at best,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: right he plus.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: See what's your grading status?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: I mean why after two after two games, it's just
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, and I think he's going to be
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: a great player, don't get me wrong, but the way
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: he's been used in the impact plays that they've gotten
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: out of him, you expected more admit it, right, you
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: expected more.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 6: But see, here's the issue you pete too, Like you
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 6: can say in game number one, do we want to
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 6: see a little more? But you won it, so it
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 6: wasn't really an issue. You lose the Cincinnati Now all
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 6: of a sudden, the question is gonna always mark my words,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: every single game this team loses. One of the very
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 6: first storyline is going to be, well, why wasn't Travis
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: Hunter on this play? Why wasn't Travis Hunter on that play?
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: Like that's see, I think that's what we're gonna deal
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: with time full time corner and and spot him in
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: for thirty five thirty you know.
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  Speaker 4: On offense.
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  Speaker 3: The problem with that is they thought they might be
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: able to do that because they had a number one
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: wide receiver, and they.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: No longer have a number one wide receiver anymore.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: Not if he's playing like this. That's right, it's a problem.
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  Speaker 1: It's a trickle down for everybody else.
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  Speaker 6: It's works.
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  Speaker 9: It gets made to be a thing, obviously, you know
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 9: in the in this rat poison world we live in.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 9: But uh, it's you know, it's the It's emotional. It's
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 9: an emotional game. It's a competitive game. We're all competitive,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 9: we're all emotional. I can control mind better and uh,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 9: you know he was just telling me to like move on.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 9: You know, he wasn't telling me to go screw. He's
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 9: just saying, dude, move on, you know, like come on guy.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 9: It's like it's uh, but yeah, to answer to answer
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 9: your question, Ryan it. I was very pleased with the
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 9: way he you know, he showed something, you know, he
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 9: did got ticked off at times. He had great dialogue
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 9: with his teammates on the sidelines. He made some huge
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 9: throws for us and critical moments and if anything, I
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 9: was extremely encouraged with with Trevor post game at.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: Coach Liam Cohen today.
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  Speaker 1: When you get rat boys in and go screw in
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: one SoundBite, you gotta run it. That's the rules.
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  Speaker 5: Those are the rules.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back, Jack Wart's happy our j P. Shatrick, Austin Lane,
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  Speaker 1: Pete Prisco by the way, we got to coach with
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  Speaker 1: the personality what's up, Pete?
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  Speaker 4: They love they love rat poison.
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  Speaker 1: That's seventeen. That's where that started.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, I've been rat poisoned the coaches my
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  Speaker 3: entire life. Then oh my god, he just called me
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  Speaker 3: beat rat poison.
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  Speaker 5: I'm okay, that's right.
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  Speaker 6: It never ends.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, that's that I love and Austin you said this earlier.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: He is so forthcoming.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: And I told somebody this the other day when you
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: talk to him and JP you saw when I was
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: talking to him in Miami.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: You learned stuff from him, which I appreciate that. I'd
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: rather they correct me and learn.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: Something rather than then, you know, fly off at the
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: smallest little thing. And I think he was in a
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: situation today. Other coaches would have handled that a lot differently.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: You saw Brian Kelly, by the way, did you see Brian?
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, and I think he handled it very well,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: and he's kind of got that.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: I think that's that's a good trade of his and
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: he's very candid and I appreciate respect him.
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  Speaker 1: For that time now for keeping it real presented by nobody.
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  Speaker 1: Still it's available. It's available.
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  Speaker 4: Somebody in Jacksonville sponsor that damn segment.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: Please, it's on the market. It's gone out there.
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  Speaker 4: You'll believe that, you will not regret that.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: Oh, we'll make it work. It's gonna be awesome.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 9: You know.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: We're gonna pump that business up.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: No doubt about it. And this is about what Liam
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: Cohen just talked about and the interaction late in the
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter. I leam Cohen said after the game, that
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: was just one throw. I was upset. It's what it is.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: That emotion is not personal ever, It's just me getting
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: worked up. And then Trevor Lawrence said, the communication between
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: the two is really high. Coach is really passionate. Love
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: that about him. He'll get fired up, and it's brought
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: more of that out of Trevor. There's been all this
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: rat poison if you will, today or viral sensation of
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: the video of this happening where you late in the
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter, the throat of the I mean brown is
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: high and Liam Cohen is screaming out to the field
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence waves him off.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: It's been overblown, right, Pete.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: Well, a couple of things about that. I think coaching
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: Trevor hard is a good thing. I don't think people
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: have coached him hard in his career.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: I just don't. I don't think they coached him. Maybe
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: you know, and I wasn't privy to what went on
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: to Clemson, but you know, you come in as the
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: golden boy, You're gonna take over as a starting quarterback
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: right away. You get to the playoffs. I mean, I
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: don't think he was coached that hard at Clemson, And
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: maybe I'm wrong. He clearly wasn't coached hard by urban
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: Meyer because he had no earthly idea what he was doing.
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  Speaker 4: Doug Peterson, you know how I feel about that whole situation.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: I never thought it was a good situation to begin with.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm not sure Doug Peterson ever truly embraced Trevor
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: as that guy.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean, year or so of the
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: whole second was in the league.
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  Speaker 4: He had been around quarterbacks and what he wanted them
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: to be like, and I don't think Trevor.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: Was like that, That's right.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: So it's good to see him coaching him the way
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: he is. Having said that, it kind of showed him
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  Speaker 3: up a little bit on the field, you know, you'll
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: put it here.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I don't think he needed to do that.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: I'm okay, you can get on him, but you know
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: what I mean, I don't know I thought that was
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: And then the wave off way overblown. He's just he's
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: just telling him, come on, let's go on the next play.
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  Speaker 11: Having said all that, Danley Brown should have caught the
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 11: damn ball, and what's the best case scenario for that
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 11: he catches it and goes down for a three yard
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 11: game or whatever it was.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: It was a bad play.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe he's not supposed to throw it there, but
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: it was a bad play. I didn't see anybody else
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: open on that play. So I like the fact that
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: Liam Cone coaches the hard. I don't necessarily love the theatrics.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: On the sideline, and I don't mind the waving them
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: off because it's time to move on to the next play.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 6: So, you know, when it comes to the theatrics on
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 6: the sidelines of holding players accountable, whether it's in a
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 6: press conference or on the side of the field, I'm
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 6: all for it because I think that's what Trevor Lawrence needs.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 6: I think every player on this team needs to be
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 6: held accountable. Accountability is absolute, So I'm a.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: Fan of that.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 6: I honestly don't care about that exchange between Liam Cohen
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 6: and Trevor Lawrence, and I get from the national perspective.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 6: You know, RG three wants to make a big deal
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 6: about and other people you know like and I get
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 6: because and this is why I like Liam Cohan a lot,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 6: because he's he's not naive. There's some NFL coaches that
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 6: don't know how the game works, and there's some who
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 6: just get it and he understands it. Where I can
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 6: take a ten second video, say there's troubling in Jacksonville,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 6: Trevor Lawrence, Liam Collin. Already there's game number two. Look
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 6: what they're doing. Okay, great, go go ahead and post
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 6: it RG three and then go watch in another game,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 6: because that's all you're gonna do. You're not gonna watch
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 6: the entire Jaguars game. Take the clip and post it,
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  Speaker 6: and then go on with your life and get your views,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 6: get your retweets, get your likes. Cool, fantastic. I remember six, seven,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 6: eight years ago, whenever it was. I remember Tom Brady cussing,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 6: slamming pads down on the side of the sideline, chewing
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 6: out Josh McDaniel.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 6: I remember Travis Kelcey chest bumping Andy Reevick. You wanted
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 6: to fight him after a game. We talked about that
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 6: for what maybe three or four days, and then we
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  Speaker 6: all forgot about it. It's the same thing here like
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 6: this is this is It's an absolute non issue. I mean,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 6: and I get people love the accessibility of seeing these
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 6: great camera views in the sidelines and everything. If you
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 6: would have stuck a camera with Joe Colin and the
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 6: defensive line back in twenty ten to twenty thirteen, the
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 6: authorities would have been called, okay, like, this is football.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 6: This is how it is sometimes right, like if you
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 6: can't handle an exchange of this and this in the
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 6: game of football, then maybe football is not really for you.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: And you're right. It was war. It was out there
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: for all to see, which is which. I don't mind.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: I love that kind of stuff. I just think sometimes
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: you gotta be careful with that when you're the play
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: caller working, worrying about the next play, the theatric's going.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: On on the sideline.
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  Speaker 4: But I'll say this.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: Top Gauflin in ninety nine called out Mark Brunell in
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: a press conference after he threw an end zone interception,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: then called him into the office the next day and
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: read them the Riot Act.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: Sitting at his desk that was above everybody.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: If you remember, they had to chop that desk down
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: at one point because it was too high.
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  Speaker 4: When Jack del Rio moved.
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  Speaker 3: In there, he chopped it down, and that ultimately became
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: the origin of my story on the rift between the
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: coach and quarterback. Because the players all wanted that story out.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: That's how bad it got at that point. And so
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: I respect Liam for the way he handled it, rather
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: than going to the podium and calling him out on
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  Speaker 3: the podium, you know what I mean.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: Had he gotten on the podium said well Trevor would
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: just put the.
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  Speaker 3: Damn ball in his stomach once in a while, then
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, it would become an issue.
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  Speaker 4: It's a non issue the way it was handled.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: Down at least straight to the quarterback's face. It might
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: have been between the lines, but he did it straight
• 1:11:23
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  Speaker 9: Middle read route basically, and you know, there was nothing
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  Speaker 9: kind of holding the backside.
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  Speaker 4: So it was a.
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  Speaker 9: Play that we've hit a number of times in training
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 9: camp in that Miami joint and a few other times,
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  Speaker 9: and I think he may have just led him a
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 9: little bit too far a little so if we're gonna
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 9: throw that ball, probably needed to be a little bit more,
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  Speaker 9: you know, on the body there. But you know, that's
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  Speaker 9: getting in sync together, getting the connection together. That's something
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  Speaker 9: that we all know has been a work in progress.
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  Speaker 1: Mubby's Wings. Now, I thought it one more of those situations, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: between a player and a coach. Remember Jalen Ramsey and
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: Doug Moron got into it on the sideline at one
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  Speaker 1: point here.
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  Speaker 6: I can't believe that wasn't the first one out of
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  Speaker 6: my mind because that that was a big deal and
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 6: that actually became something. Now, correct me if I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 6: Didn't it wasn't that the result wasn't there like a
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 6: questionable call or something and was like he didn't review
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  Speaker 6: or yeah did Jalen asked him to throw the red
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  Speaker 6: flag and I don't think Doug or something that's right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's an interesting one between two guys
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  Speaker 3: that would were pains and the asses for a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people, and that build me.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's be real. Yeah, I mean Doug more you know,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: by the.
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  Speaker 6: Way, I'm bad, that's not bad. But I probably would
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  Speaker 6: have had Doug moroon by a ten eight round and
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  Speaker 6: then the first I think if if it would have
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  Speaker 6: kept yeah, yeah, dog Doug fight's dirty.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some guys that he can call, they can.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The the rout he was just talking about again, I
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: I don't I think that he has the option to
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: go up the field there, because that's what he did
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: at Miami.
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  Speaker 4: If I'm not mistaken by the way, Austin.
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  Speaker 3: Did you think because some some people and I wasn't
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: sure when I watched it, do you think Tuton went
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: the wrong way on that play.
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  Speaker 4: And got away with it or is that designed that way?
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 6: I'd love to know thee Well, this is this is
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 6: the PFF narrative, right, because if I see it on film.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 6: I can be like, well, that doesn't make much sense,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 6: but if that was the play call, then give him
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 6: a plus.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: So I guess what the action is going the other
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: way in a screen to the right. Tutan went to
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: the left.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: And he's a rookie, so you would expect he's gonna
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: have problems at times going the right way.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't know. It didn't look like it was
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: designed that way. But if it was, it's genius because
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: you get him one on one in that situation with
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: that guy. Yeah, but I'm not sure it was designed
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: now because everybody, it's a screen. It's clearly the action
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: is a screen to the right, and he went to
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: the left. Yeah, so I would love that. I wish,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: I wish I could I ask Liam right now if
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: that was designed that way, because it doesn't look like
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: it was. If it was, I've never seen it designed
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: that way.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 6: Well, and make sure Liam Cohen tells PFF acts. I'm
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 6: sure that those guys are up all night wondering if
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 6: that was a positive player negative play for him, just
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 6: because you don't know what the play call is.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: Hey, j P real quick. The other part of it
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: is we haven't touched on this at all. The offensive
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: line for the most part was pretty darn good again
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: for the second week in a row.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they didn't go for obviously two hundred
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: on the ground. But the quarterback, I mean, for the
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: most part.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: Is except for Walker Little yeah yeah. And then the
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: one sack on the right.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: Side when Hendrickson went over to the right side beat
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: toward the end, yeah, Harrison didn't they Yeah, And they.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: Seemed to have a you know, obviously the game plan
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: was based around Hendrickson. I mean that's oh yeah, you
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: gotta start with that guy.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: But but Cleveland two weeks in a row, really good.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: Hainsey two weeks in a row, really good. McCarry wasn't
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: as good this week as he was last week. Harrison
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: was good again. That's two weeks in a row for him,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: that's good. And Walker Little good in the run game, not.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: So good in pass protection a little bit. Had some
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: problems there. He gives that that edge, you know, he
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: lets that edge go.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: Like the the interception, yea pressure.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: Under Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: Again, the way Travis ran that route, he should have
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: run it to the back back corner of the pylon.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: If he because even if he's got a clean pocket.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: The way he ran that route, I'm not sure he's
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: going to complete that pass anyways.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: He kind of got jammed up and then he tried that,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken, that route should be run to
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: the back of the end zone once he gets out there,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: and he.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: Kind of flattened it out a little bit and let
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 4: the defender be able to play him well. And that's
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: why the ball is in here certainly.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, the balls just got to go back there anyway.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, you throw up to that back if you're
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: going to miss it, miss it high and wide.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he got hit on that.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: So and there's a narrative by the way that he
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: didn't Trevor Larris didn't play that well.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: I don't buy that good.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, if it wasn't for the drops, he'd be,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: you know, four touchdowns and the pick and thirty completions.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, he does have to realize sometimes when he's
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: three yards over a lot of scrimmage.
• 1:17:25
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• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: Audiophile asking did the Jags do a grounding exercise before
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: the game? The rest didn't?
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: Wow, No, they did not. They had a rough go
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 4: of it. Yeah, and I never want to I'm not
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: one to ever blame the officials. I think in the
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: end it all evens out eventually, but you know, they
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 4: had a couple of questionable calls.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 6: The p I was terrible, I thought, I think, I
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 6: mean overall, and let's kind of break down the question
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 6: like did they come did it look ready to play?
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 6: And I think for the most part in a hostile environment,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 6: which you know, Zach Taylor's asking them to get there
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 6: early and everything, Uh, make it a pep rally Orange jerseys,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 6: Like I think if Joe Burrow stays in the game
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 6: might have even been different, right because Burrow did not
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 6: look like himself. He'll win the game, Yeah, exactly and
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 6: went big. And I think that the biggest point to
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 6: me to prove like were you really ready? Was you
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 6: know whatever the five penalties in a row that was
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 6: or a six pounds whatever.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, in that one.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 5: Stretch they had two drives, they had five illegal shifts.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 6: That can't happen. Yeah, like that that that cannot happen.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 6: Then maybe just stop shifting. Maybe just go out there
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 6: and and just take you know, four an automatic instead
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 6: of shifting so much.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: I still want the one uh illegal motion was because
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: Dianmi Brown turned up too soon.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: You know, just little things. The timing is is not right.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: Of course that question went back to last week's grounding
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: question at halftime and the weather delay and all that.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: Of course, all right at Loomers eighty seven this week,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: the d line looked, I like to get pressure up
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: the middle for a change. Is their progress?
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: Uh stunts and you know loops, you know that, Austin,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: I don't think that any I really don't think anybody on.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: The inside was winning consistently. Well.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 6: I think Eric Armistead on the they ran. I think
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 6: it was a text game. Now grand the guard didn't
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 6: come with them or anything like that. I mean made
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 6: it pretty easy an Armstead. But a quarterback sacks a
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 6: quarterback sack. At the end of the day, I'm mean
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna get Erick Armistead a little props there for
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 6: that quarterback sack because I was a big.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: And he got part last week to a little bit
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: in the second half.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yep.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 5: Okay, So is there progress? Sounds like there is.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: I mean they still like to have a guy who
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: can put his hand on the ground and can push
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: the pocket from the inside consistely.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 5: They don't have that, but they're doing what they can
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 5: right now.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: They're doing don't have that either.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 6: And you know what, and I think it's a breath
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 6: of pressure because when they did rush for they got
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 6: home a couple of times, whether it was creating turnovers
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 6: the one to Dewey that I think Trayvon Walker got
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 6: his hand. Like they're they're generating pressure with just four guys,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 6: which is kind of a rarity to see the past
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 6: couple years. It seems like, so there is progress, and
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 6: I think the middle has something to do with it.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: That wasn't a good That's not a good offensive line
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: they played though, Yeah, you know that the week before
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: that line was awful.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 6: Are the Texans at.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: Terrible?
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: They better dominate next week? Yeah? Better? Duvall knows shoes
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: asking does Brian Thomas Julior fit what this regime is
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: trying to do.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 5: He doesn't seem to be physical.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean he's physical in the run game, like
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 4: we talked to it.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: He'll block, you know, a lot of guys will will
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: either wide receiver at least try.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: My wide receivers don't even try. Physical to me means
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 4: you got to be able to give up your body
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 4: over the middle of the field. And he's not willing
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: to do that right now. So it's a legitimate question.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: They strive mental and physical toughness to be a Jaguar
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: in a way they want to be in this organization. No,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: I hear you.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 6: Is he physical enough like to what Pete said, I
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 6: think your ability And I forget what run it was.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 6: There was a longer run I think it was. It
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 6: would have been traves etn he had he kind of
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 6: cut it up to the left side of the field.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 6: I think that was the play that I noticed the
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 6: most with Brian Thomas Junior did a great job of
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 6: sticking out his block and actually pushing his guy almost
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 6: towards the sideline. Not every wide receiver is capable of
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 6: doing that or willing to do that, So I don't
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 6: think it's a physicality problem, Like, yeah, he's obviously it's
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 6: afraid to get hit, But I don't think that's physical.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 6: I think that's just more mental right now, and until
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 6: that gets solved, we'll have the more questions with it.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: Look, and also one quick thing, when people say soft,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: they mean soft as it relates to the game of football,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: not as it relates to the game of life.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: Because let's be real, everybody in the National Football League
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: is it? Is it soft? They're tough guys, you know,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: they're there for a reason.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: But there's different ways to be you know, like somebody's
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: really tough, somebody's soft.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: Somebody has to be the least toughest guy in the league, right.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 5: Relative to the tough guy. Yeah, sure, I mean it
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 5: has to be that.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: It's just like in your fight game, somebody's soft and
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: somebody's tough. They're all tough, but somebody softer than the
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: other guy.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but the way it is.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 6: But the difference is Pete that I'm never going to
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 6: call anybody soft, whether it's in a cage or on
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 6: the football field, because I know what it takes to
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 6: get up every single Sunday. I know what it takes
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 6: to get your body on the line. And I get
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 6: you make a lot of money to do so. But
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 6: at the same time, I think anybody that's willing to
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 6: put the helmet on and sacrifice their body, I think
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 6: you're at least a little bit tough in my book.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 6: So there's there's well it's all relative, right, It's all relative,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 6: it's all comparative. And and I can say with Brian
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 6: Thomas Junior, like, maybe there's like a glitch right now
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 6: you want to call it or something wrong with this mentality.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 6: But mark my words, I'm never gonna call anybody soft
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 6: in this game. Just it's just what I believe. But hey,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 6: yoused to you.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: I'll call team soft.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 6: Oh, I'll call team soft all day, but when it
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 6: comes it's funny, I'll call it team soft, but not
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 6: but call the guys on it.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not gonna go name by name. I'm a hypocrite.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: What can I say?
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: And by the way, there are guy like he's playing
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: he might not be soft, but he's playing soft right now,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: let's be we can say that.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, moving along at BCB couch, should they be playing
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: Hunter at corner and Washington on the slot exclusively? Moving
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: forward and pause the two way player experiment for.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: Now, I personally think you should be a full time
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: corner and spot him in and wide receiver for thirty snaps.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 4: But again, I go back to what I said earlier.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 4: If that's the case, you think you'd ad a number
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 4: one wide receiver, you don't.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, So can they limit his snass on offense
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: with the way they're going with the other wide receiver?
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: I mean not right now? You need you need people
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: that can play and produce. He's the only one catching
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: the ball right now.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Washington, if this was going into the game number
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 6: one against Carolina, I would have told you, Okay, if
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 6: what did the Jaguars need more Travis Hunter on defense
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 6: spelling Jerry and Jones or Travis Hunter on offense competing
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 6: with Parker Washington, I would have told you, Okay, we'll
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 6: go spell Jerion Jones and let Parker Washington step up.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 6: Now we fast forward two games and we see Brian
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 6: Thomas Junior doing his stuff, and it's like, you need
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 6: this guy on both sides the ball. You know. I
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 6: think if Brian Thomas Junior was more dependable right now
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 6: you could trust him, then Yeah, by all means, have
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 6: Travis Hunter, get a majority of the of the reps
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 6: on defense and use him sparingly, because by the way,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 6: you're running the football pretty well, So why even worry
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 6: about the pass game right I'm worried about the defense
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 6: right now surrendering big explosive plays to wide receivers. So
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 6: I would err on the side of Childick Hunter playing defense.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 6: But until you find a chew number one receiver that's
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 6: up for that challenge, you can't do that.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: That's like if he's not on the field offensively, and
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: you come to your defensive team and you're getting ready
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: to like if you're next week, you're you're Stingley and
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: Lasser and Petrian that group and you're defending the shell
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: of himself, Brian Thomas, Parker Washington, and Diamie Brown.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 4: Are you where are you scared? There? Are you scared?
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 4: You're not not?
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: Really, No, unless Brian Thomas suddenly becomes Brian Thomas again,
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: then all of a sudden you might be scared again
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: of that group.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: We Parker Washington is a good little.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: Player, don't get me wrong, But I'm not disnamed because
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: I think he's made himself into a heck of a player.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: But he ain't scaring you. If he's one of the
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 4: top two.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 6: Pete, do you think he's earned the rights to get
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 6: a lot more reps here, because in terms of offense,
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 6: I think you have the run, I think you have
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 6: Breton Strange, and I think there's Parker Washington has the
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 6: most dependable pieces right now on this team.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: If he's getting more reps, does that mean that Brian
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: Thomas is sitting down?
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think someone's got to come out every
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 6: once in a while. I'm not saying it's maybe it's
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 6: Tommy Brown, maybe it's Hunter playing defense, but I think
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 6: it comes to a point where a player has kind
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 6: of elevated their game a little bit. I think Parker
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 6: Washington has where he's been deed.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: I would play, I would play, and by the way
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: you preach, the best players will play well. If he's
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: one of the best players and he's doing his job
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: and he's working at it and he plays hard all
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: the time, then play them.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: Final question that B M.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 5: Sizzle.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: Should fans feel optimistic or worried about this team moving forward?
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 6: Boston optimistic just because even though it was a loss,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 6: a game that you should have won, and we've seen
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 6: that how many times before, where a starting quarterback goes out,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 6: you're supposed to win the ball game and you don't.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 6: I get all that, but this looks different now. The
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 6: way they can run the football, where guys aren't getting
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 6: hit two yards in the backfield just trying to get
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 6: one or two yards here there, The way that this
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 6: offensive line can actually inflict their will, that's different, right.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 6: I think Liam Cohen is different. I think having that
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 6: accountability at every position is different. So I think fan
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 6: should be more optimistic than worried right.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 4: Now, no question about it. Much more optimistic. You should
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 4: be two to zero.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: Of course you should be optimistic. There's no reason they
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: lost that game on Sunday, and your offensive line is
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: blocking and playing well, and you're doing some good things
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: offensively running the ball one week, throwing at the next.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 4: Of course you should be optimistic. It doesn't mean you're
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 4: going to the playoffs.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: I will say this, That game yesterday reminded me a
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: game in ninety six when Jacksonville went to play the
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: Rams in Saint Louis and Jacksonville had like five hundred
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: yards of offense and somehow lost the game, and it
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: was all this crazy stuff happened, and then they went
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: on a winning streak in ninety six.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 4: At some point down the road of teams can build
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  Speaker 4: on games like that.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's why Liam Cohen and kudos to the
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars video crew for sending that out. Most teams would
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  Speaker 3: never have sent out a coach talking to his team.
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  Speaker 4: After a loss.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right, Yeah yeah, in the Lost Room.
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  Speaker 1: I did that on social It.
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  Speaker 3: Was fantastic, and so I think his message was get
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  Speaker 3: the hell over this and build off of it, and
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  Speaker 3: I think that was smart.
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  Speaker 1: You have it, fanatics, fan questions are in. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: a look around the National Football League after a Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: Packers over the Commanders twenty seven to eighteen. The Ravens
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  Speaker 1: blasted the Browns yesterday forty one seventeen. This Cowboys Giants
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  Speaker 1: game was incredible. Aubrey hits a sixty four yard field
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  Speaker 1: goal with the final gunner regulation to send it to overtime,
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  Speaker 1: and then hits the game winning field goal with no
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  Speaker 1: time left in overtime.
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  Speaker 3: Schottenheimer, what the hell are you doing running at draw
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  Speaker 3: play on the play before the sixty four yard field goal?
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  Speaker 4: Are we going to settle for sixty four yard field goal? Now?
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  Speaker 6: What we're doing?
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  Speaker 4: He made it, He got away with it. But that terrible, terrible,
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  Speaker 4: terrible decision.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a wild one. Lions made a point
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  Speaker 1: and beat the Bears fifty two to twenty one Austin.
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  Speaker 6: With all the respect to Ben Johnson, right, Like Ben
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  Speaker 6: Johnson comes back home to Detroit, Dan Campbell goes cool,
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  Speaker 3: By the way, do you remember way back in January,
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  Speaker 3: February March who everybody in Jacksonville wanted to be the
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  Speaker 3: head coach, don't you?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? Ben Johnson? Right?
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  Speaker 1: Press?
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  Speaker 5: Taylors is what OC or QB coach?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? Right, yeah, you imagine Johnson?
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  Speaker 5: Can you imagine I press would have stuck around.
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  Speaker 6: It's press calling the plays there in Chicago.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, now yeah, no, I was not making sure
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  Speaker 1: just yeah, it would have been an interesting.
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  Speaker 4: Did press call the plays in Jacksonville? Oh? Nobody ever
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  Speaker 4: knew you?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: That one of the greatest mysteries of this city.
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  Speaker 1: The way the wind was blowing. Yeah. Patriots over the
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  Speaker 1: Dolphins thirty three, twenty seven. Niners beat Saints twenty six
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  Speaker 1: twenty one, the Bills by twenty over the Jets thirty
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  Speaker 1: to ten. Stop me if there's any interest in these Pete.
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  Speaker 4: No, No, the Bills are. I think they'll go to
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  Speaker 4: the super Bowl. They're one of the best teams in
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  Speaker 4: the league.
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  Speaker 6: But also I think a storyline of that those Justin
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  Speaker 6: Field's coming back down to reality was like the fantasy
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  Speaker 6: Darling Week one for the New York Jets and Justin
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  Speaker 6: Fields taking on the Steelers and now all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 6: he looks like if how to throw a football?
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  Speaker 4: But Austin, you know this. The Jets identity has always
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  Speaker 4: been defense.
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  Speaker 3: They hire Aaron Glenn whose identity is defense, and they're
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  Speaker 3: worse on defense.
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  Speaker 1: How that work? Yeah, Seahawks over the Steelers thirty one seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: The Cardinals beat the Panthers twenty seven to twenty two,
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  Speaker 1: Eagles over the Chiefs twenty to seventeen.
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  Speaker 5: What's going on in Kansas City?
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey Man.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta catch that ball.
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  Speaker 6: Gott to catch it.
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  Speaker 4: And here's the other part of that. For the Chiefs
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  Speaker 4: are one two. They don't have worthy, they don't have rice,
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  Speaker 4: they don't stretch the field.
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  Speaker 3: And they went to Brazil and played a really good
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  Speaker 3: team in the Chargers, and then came home and played
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  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl champs in your own place and held
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  Speaker 3: them to what's.
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  Speaker 4: Twenty points you're supposed to win. I think they had
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  Speaker 4: like two hundred something yards of offense the Eagles.
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  Speaker 6: They should win that game, I think yeah. And right now,
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  Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes has nobody to throw to. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 6: looking more like you know, Josh Allen running for his
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  Speaker 6: life for like Lamar Jackson. I mean, I know I
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  Speaker 6: have fantasy and he's getting fantasy points, but I'd rather
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  Speaker 6: have it with his arm and not his legs so
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  Speaker 6: much like of course the Chiefs. Yeah, yeah, So they're
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  Speaker 6: gonna have to figure something out, man, because if he's
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  Speaker 6: running for his life the entire season, it's gonna come
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  Speaker 6: back to bite him.
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  Speaker 1: Falcons went into Minnesota last night and got a victory
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  Speaker 1: twenty two to six, and Beshn Robinson Atlanta Falcons. He's
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  Speaker 1: talented by the way.
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  Speaker 3: I guess we could slow down the Hall of Fame
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: bust for JJ McCarthy after week one, right, I mean,
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 3: what are we doing in this league? The kid was
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  Speaker 3: terrible for three quarters as a throw to the middle
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  Speaker 3: of field that was nice to Jefferson gets a boot
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  Speaker 3: in the run game and run a play a design
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  Speaker 3: run for a touchdown and throws a one on one
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  Speaker 3: to the back where he er threw it, and all
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  Speaker 3: of a sudden, he's going to Canton.
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  Speaker 4: And then we show him up on Sunday and he
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  Speaker 4: looked like J. J. McCarthy again, and now he's hurt.
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  Speaker 1: Well it's hurt. Yeah, he's hurt.
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  Speaker 4: Miss he's gonna miss Sunday. Wow.
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  Speaker 6: I think I uh ah entered Carson Wentz right for
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  Speaker 6: not mistake. I think is the backup there in Minnesota, and.
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  Speaker 4: Wentz will be the backup, will be the starting quarterback.
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  Speaker 6: You know it's well because the whole narrative and I
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  Speaker 6: really was drinking this kool aid as well as you
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  Speaker 6: know it's it's O'Connell's offense. Doesn't matter who the quarterback is,
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  Speaker 6: you can get the best out of him. Well, Sam
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  Speaker 6: Donald's still playing at a really high level in Seattle.
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  Speaker 6: Looks like when he played the Steelers, and you see
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  Speaker 6: what McCarthy is doing, So maybe there was something to
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  Speaker 6: be said for him. Maybe Sam Donald isn't that bad
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  Speaker 6: of a quarterback, and maybe they're gonna regret letting him go.
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  Speaker 1: There you have it. I'll look around the National Football
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  Speaker 1: League two for the price so one on Monday Night
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  Speaker 1: Football Tonight, we preview the Bucks Texans matchup earlier, but
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  Speaker 1: tonight the back end of the doubleheader takes just to
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  Speaker 1: the AFC Wes, Justin Herbert and Pete's favorite team, The
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  Speaker 1: LA Chargers head to Las Vegas to face Gino Smith
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  Speaker 1: and they want to oh, Raiders, Oh you got it?
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  Speaker 1: Send City?
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  Speaker 4: Why are they my favorite team?
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: Because well I'm not.
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  Speaker 5: I'm spoken there. You said you like the Chargers are
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 5: a good team.
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  Speaker 4: Well there, I like watching Justin Herbert throw the ball
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  Speaker 4: around like he did in Brazil.
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  Speaker 1: The Bills are your team.
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  Speaker 5: I forget about it.
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  Speaker 3: I think this is gonna be a tough game for
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  Speaker 3: the Chargers. I think he's gonna be closer. Do you
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  Speaker 3: think I think Geo Smith played well last week. They're
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  Speaker 3: gonna score some points, but I'll take the Chargers.
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  Speaker 4: It'll be Pike though. It's gonna be a fun game.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. I think it's Pete Carl's birth having not mistaken.
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  Speaker 6: If that means anything to anybody out there. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: this was I was on a breakdown video I was watching.
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  Speaker 6: But I'm taking the Chargers as well. I mean, I
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  Speaker 6: think the Chargers are a better team, so I'm gonna
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  Speaker 6: take the better.
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  Speaker 4: Team our ball peril.
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  Speaker 3: The rivalry been that way for White right back in
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: college Stamford and USC and then in Seattle and San Francisco,
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  Speaker 3: so that renewed.
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  Speaker 1: It continues, by the way. Also another birthday tonight, Brent
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  Speaker 1: reab are a fantastic producer behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 4: It's birthday. Yeah, it's probably like twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: Or yeah, something like that. Yeah, it's all state of mind.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it is all state believe me. I can, I
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  Speaker 4: can tell you it's all state of mind.
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  Speaker 1: Right, all right, So we got a few minutes that
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  Speaker 1: remaining on the program. Where how do you feel now
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  Speaker 1: with the Texans coming in this week?
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  Speaker 4: Let me see, can I can I wait till after tonight?
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  Speaker 4: Tell we'll have a good idea, right, Well, I mean
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 4: they were bad last week. I'll be honest with you.
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  Speaker 4: I was really you know, we talked about offensive line play.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 4: Their line play was terrible last week, really bad. So
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  Speaker 4: I got to see the line play better.
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  Speaker 3: They were in a good spots tonight though, Like I
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 3: said earlier, Tampa's on back to back road games on
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 3: a Monday night against a team and an opener at home.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that's a bad combination. So I'm curious to
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  Speaker 4: see how the Texans offensive line plays tonight.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think?
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  Speaker 6: I think you have the Texans on a short week
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  Speaker 6: coming to your home. I feel like it's almost a
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 6: must win win game in the division right now, you know,
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 6: try to get some confidence back. You know, there was
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 6: a lot of things to take away that were pretty
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 6: positive from that Bengals game, but a lot that needs
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 6: to be worked on. And I think Liam Cornfy's showing
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  Speaker 6: us one thing so far. It's those things that need
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 6: to be worked on, whether it's the pre snap penalties
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 6: and everything like that. Those get fixed the next game,
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 6: right So I have no reason to not believe that
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  Speaker 6: he'll get those things addressed. You play a clean game
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  Speaker 6: and and I think you got a chance to beat
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  Speaker 6: the Houston Texans, who are going to have to win
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  Speaker 6: that game.
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  Speaker 4: I think they win that game. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 4: make it a lock.
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  Speaker 1: Pete, No, No, they're on the doorstep this week.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not gonna lock it, but I think they
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  Speaker 4: win the game. And then they win the game, don't
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 4: the Chiefs come in two weeks from tonight?
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  Speaker 1: No, it's Uh, that's week San Fran three weeks. Francisco
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: is before that.
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  Speaker 4: Three weeks from tonight.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, then then you play Mac Jones and in San Francisco.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: Houston, San Fran and then Can'ansas City October sixth, Kansas City.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, three weeks from tonight. So they're gonna look back
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 4: at this Spangles game again. How did that happen?
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: You watch it happened?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? I think they win this week and it win
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 4: surprise me. The Niners game is gonna be tough.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 5: You're not gonna lock either one of those.
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  Speaker 4: If you're not, you're staying not locking either one.
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  Speaker 5: Boston staying away too. Oh yeah, great show, guys.
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  Speaker 4: He's kind of he's got to get into the locked
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  Speaker 4: game camera.
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  Speaker 6: I'm a ring camera. I see what's coming.
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  Speaker 4: I'm fine.
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  Speaker 1: I don't anything right now.
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking for We gotta get locked anything right now
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  Speaker 3: as I used to lock a game every Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: I'm J. P. Shadwick. Thanks for listening. Jaguars Happy Hour