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THE MIDLIFE MEAN GIRLS AND HOW YOU CAN SAY "NO THANKS!" TO THEIR DRAMA · Uncluttered and Unfiltered: The Podcast For Women Over 50

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  Welcome to Uncluttered and Unfiltered, the podcast urging
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  you to let it go and don't look back, with nationally acclaimed
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  professional organizer Christine Stone and self-proclaimed Hot
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  Damn Mess radio and TV personality Eden Kendall.
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  Welcome everybody to Uncluttered and Unfiltered, the podcast for
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  women over 50 Mean Girls episode I'm Eden.
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  And I'm Christine. And if you are watching us on
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  our bonus member Patreon page, you'll see we're both well, you
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  took your. Vest, I took notice it's
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  freezing in Florida. It's really cold in Florida,
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  which is something that. We're not.
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  Yes. And I'm still in my hoodie.
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  I just couldn't even bring myself to you're, but you're
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  cold. Because I'm cold, I'm cold.
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  And I realize there are people listening where it is snowing
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  really cold. So you do not sympathize with
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  us. I'm just saying if you're
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  watching videos from this episode, we are.
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  I'm snuggled up and you are cold.
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  I'm and I'm cold. We're going to talk about Mean
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  Girls today, but first of all, this is our first time back
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  together after Thanksgiving. So tell me how it was you were
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  with your, your daughter that lives in Nashville.
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  You were visiting with your grandson.
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  With my grandson who's getting so big now and his my in laws,
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  my son in And so we had a big group and my brother also lives
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  there and his wife and family. So it was a big group and we
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  brought my 85 year old mother with us.
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  OK, let's talk. About that.
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  For just a minute, I love you mom, because I know she listens.
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  I we all love her and I have no doubt in my mind that that was
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  so special and memories were made and photos were taken and
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  it was the best thing ever, but it could not have been easy.
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  Well. In fairness.
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  Yeah, no travelling with anyone during a holiday.
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  Never easy. Essentially add stress because
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  of different personnel. Right, right.
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  And also, you know, you always see your own mother as someone
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  who's young. Do you know, no matter what,
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  sure, you see them as your mom. And so when they get to a
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  certain age, that shifts and it's a normal shift.
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  It's not like you know, but I think, you know, it was
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  definitely a different trip seeing the help she needed to
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  get around and that type of stuff.
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  So that was different and. She's coming off of a medical
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  situation, yes. So that's why I was asking.
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  If that was a little more difficult, I'm sure worth.
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  Every worth every penny. And hey, she still cooked all
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  her best dishes, so that, yeah, she sure did.
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  Did she do a? Lot of she she baked and she
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  made her famous rice that we all love.
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  And so she yeah, I mean, it's just it's difficult traveling
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  during a holiday weekend anyway. So just having someone who needs
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  special attention and you have to worry.
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  You know, my big thing right now is the tripping, you know, watch
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  where you're going. Look ahead because you fall at
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  85 is different than when you fall it 55.
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  So sure anyway, but it it was fun.
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  It was, it was definitely so much fun to see my grandson
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  who's getting older and now talking, which it just is so
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  cute. He's saying.
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  CC CC and. What is What is your mom's
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  nickname? Oh, Sidhu, which is she's
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  Lebanese, so that's Lebanese for Sidhu.
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  Yes, Sidhu. Love that.
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  Yeah. You've maintained that cultural,
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  yes. Yes.
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  Of her background and that's that's fantastic.
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  We don't talk about that very often.
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  No, we really don't. Yeah, yeah.
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  One day, talk about our cultural.
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  Right, right. Because I was raised in a Jewish
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  Home, Yes. And you were raised.
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  I'm Greek, Greek, Greek and Lebanese.
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  Okay, yeah, so I got really great food.
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  Yeah, imagine. Really great food.
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  Our food wasn't terrific, nobody in my family immediate family is
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  an amazing cook. So we went to Buca di Beppo in
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  South Florida, which is an Italian restaurant but they
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  serve a traditional Thanksgiving and it was it was pretty good.
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  There is something to be said, especially being married to a
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  Midwesterner where his mom makes for Christmas and Thanksgiving
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  fried Turkey like you would fry a chicken.
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  Not the don't get into the deep fryer, but cut it up, bread it,
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  fry it. Wow.
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  Gravy. That actually sounds good,
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  though. It's.
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  Delicious, really. Good.
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  A little spoiled when it comes to a holiday meal because of her
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  so. And she's probably listening
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  right now too. So to aspirations to cook like
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  Sharon one day. Yeah, the the person on my trip
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  that brought a little bit of stress instead of packing her
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  shoes, her medicine that she needs every day and her contact
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  lenses. Oh my God.
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  She packed a bunch of potatoes. In other words, handing me
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  potatoes to carry for. If you don't know what that
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  means, that's. You have to go back.
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  Yeah, you have to go back to our other episode.
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  It's. It from another episode, it's
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  when someone hands you their issues and they become your
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  issue, right. So we had to find Acvs to.
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  How'd you get the contacts? We didn't.
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  She had to wear glasses. She had to.
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  No, she did not. Bring her glasses.
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  She had to coast on the same pair of reusable contacts for
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  the whole time, which is not ideal.
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  No, and then no shoes. None.
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  No shoes other than the boots she was going to wear to dinner
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  because we went straight from here to the restaurant.
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  So in the car, she handed her boots.
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  So we were in Coconut Grove walking in the hotel.
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  The first thing we had to do was go buy her a pair of shoes
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  because on Thanksgiving when we were driving down, you couldn't
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  stop anywhere because nothing was open.
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  So it was great. And she's 24, by the way.
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  So this is not as you're listening and thinking the 12
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  year old forgot her shoes, no. Well, if I travel with my kids
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  who are all grown adults now, but if we're going on a fan to a
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  family thing, I always bring 2 razors, 2 toothbrushes, 2 face
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  washes because they always forget those type of things.
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  And now I'm used to it. So I just packed 2 of
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  everything. So I'm almost used to it now.
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  I mean, you know. Oh my.
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  Well, this my little apple doesn't fall right.
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  Clearly. Clearly.
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  All right, let's get into our topic right now.
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  Mean Girls. Now, is Mean Girls still an
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  issue when you are a woman over 50?
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  I believe it is. I totally believe it is, and I
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  hear it even from women who live in those over 55 communities,
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  who live in the, you know, assisted living areas.
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  Always. I hear stories about either
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  they're always after the same man because they're mostly
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  widowed and so they're all fighting over the same couple of
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  guys, or they'll fight with each other like you know you're not,
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  you're cheating at bridge, you know you're not.
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  Yeah, my mom, let me tell you, if you can get yourself kicked
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  out of a mahjong game, right? It's happened to my mom's not
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  the mean girl. She's but there are definite
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  Mean Girls at the place she lives.
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  Yeah, the assisted living, it's not assisted rather, but it's
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  the net. It's one of those, right?
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  Over 50? Yeah, Over 55.
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  And they have all kinds of things and, and group cruises,
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  right? There's a lot of so and so was
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  going to room with me and now she's rooming with her or we
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  don't want her at our mahjong. Right.
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  Yep, absolutely. So I don't think it ends just
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  because you're over 50, I mean at all.
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  I think sometimes it could almost be a little bit worse
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  because as you age you might not feel as good about yourself
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  anymore. You don't look the same you've
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  whatever the situation is. So there's a lot of jealousy.
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  I feel Mean Girls, whether you're young or old is a lot to
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  do with jealousy. A.
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  Lot to do with insecurity and jealousy and tearing someone's
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  building down instead of building yours higher.
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  Yes. And I what I told you this
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  before we started this episode, I live in fear that I'm a secret
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  mean girl, not on the outside and not to someone's face.
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  But I tend to think I overanalyze this a lot.
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  You and I have talked quite a bit about what I call is my
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  imposter syndrome, and we could do a whole episode, but I really
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  question my motive. Sometimes I'll do something
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  really nice for somebody. And then I asked myself, now did
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  I do that because in my mind I saw a need and I wanted to fill
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  it? Or did I do that because I saw
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  an opportunity for me to be a good guy?
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  And I know that ultimately what matters is the end result.
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  But there's still that piece of me that wants to tear myself
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  down and say, well, you're mean, girl.
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  You don't do things, you're not so nice.
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  You've got everyone fooled. See, and I think first of all, I
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  would have never in a million years thought that you were a
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  mean girl because I've been around you so much now and you
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  bend over backwards for, for people around you and you never
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  say no to anything ever. And so I was saying to you, why
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  do you think that? Because someone who's constantly
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  busy and going, going, going and doesn't have time to even
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  probably go to the bathroom, to me, that's just someone who's
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  busy, not mean. And I think it could be taken as
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  standoffish or whatever, but you're just always having to go
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  from one place to another to another.
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  You'd love to stop and chat, but you just really can't because
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  you'll be late to the next place you're going.
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  So I never saw that ever. I mean personally me but I I
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  think you can get mean girl mixed up with wanting to be
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  noticed. OK.
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  Do you know what I mean? Like, interesting.
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  Yes, yes. I interesting or wanting to be
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  thought of in a certain way, or wanting somebody to say.
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  Validate you or make you say God?
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  She's so nice or she would never say anything like that, you know
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  what I mean? So here's something I let me
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  give you a great example of the difference between you and I
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  there. There is something that you and
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  your family have done for many, many, many years.
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  On Christmas morning, you get up and you go to the homeless
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  shelter and you celebrate with the kids.
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  Yes. Well, we haven't done it in the
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  past couple years since I had my own grandson, but we used to,
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  yes, every single year for a long time.
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  It's like. Pulling teeth to get you to tell
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  people that. And the director of the homeless
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  shelter, I had an opportunity to sit and have a meal with fairly
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  recently and she was raving on it.
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  And I'm like, this is not something she talks about.
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  She just does it. If it were me, I am afraid to
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  say that probably I would be. What do they call that term when
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  you're doing these things socially so that everyone sees
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  posturing or it's just meant to be like a good look.
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  And I always question my motivation.
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  Did I do it for the right reasons?
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  Sure. I felt good after the fact.
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  But did I, Did I do it so I could say I did it?
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  I don't know, I I I get super hyper.
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  I think that you're getting that mixed up, though, because I
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  don't see that as a mean girl. I see wanting to be recognized.
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  Wanting somebody to say that was such a sweet, thoughtful thing,
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  whereas a mean girl is. So you and I are sitting with a
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  group of women for lunch. OK.
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  You get up to go to the bathroom and they start tearing you
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  apart. Did you see those pants she was
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  wearing? Look at those eyelashes.
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  What did she do to her hair? Oh my God.
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  Did she stop working out or, or the opposite?
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  She's gotten so thin. She must be anorexic.
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  You know what I mean? Like, or she yeah, she must be
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  on Ozempic or whatever. To me, that gives me anxiety,
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  major anxiety, because I don't like when people say mean things
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  about other people. And I do think to your point
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  that I've only recently realized that in my line of work, being a
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  DJ on the radio, doing a morning show, being on social media and
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  doing all these things, it's so a joke at someone's expense or a
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  comment where somebody has done or said something that you could
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  make fun of. It's such an easy, quick laugh,
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  and I'm trying to get away from that.
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  So for, for example, there was a young country artist on the
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  Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade named Dasha.
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  And the big story this morning was that she had lipstick all
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  over her face. Well, here's her big moment.
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  And she put the microphone too close.
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  It was wet, it was raining. It was.
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  Pouring. And she smeared her lipstick was
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  smeared all over her chin. And the first part of me would
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  want it say, like, oh, that's such an easy, fun story to tell.
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  Oh my gosh, She had the lipstick all over her face.
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  Did you see that? But instead, the really cute
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  thing is all of the other women that came out to say, hey, girl,
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  it happens to the best of us. Lesson learned.
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  Next year, you'll know. And that kind of thing.
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  People were really sweet about it, saying, you know, if this
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  happens, it's, you know, you should still be really excited
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  and proud that you were in this parade.
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  And I just think that there's this part of me that instantly
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  is like, oh, I got to talk about that.
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  Somebody else had a misstep. Somebody else had an unfortunate
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  incident or something looked silly on them.
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  And I want to be the one to point it out.
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  Really. God, I just, I guess because
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  I've never seen that side of you ever, ever, not even once ever
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  seen that side, I think. I'm just putting a lot of
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  thought lately, thoughts that are going on inside my head.
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  I don't think I do them on the outside, but I think they go on
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  inside my head to the point where I'm constantly saying
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  don't be a mean girl, don't be a mean girl.
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  And I think that it worries me. Like do I have this in me?
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  No, I don't think so. No, I like I said, I feel with
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  social media now that there are so many Mean Girls out there and
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  it's mainly everyone who is sitting home or, you know, not
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  working or in their parents basement or whatever.
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  You they, they say now where they're just criticizing people
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  to criticize them. And I see it worse on TikTok
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  than I do Instagram. And I think that I would not
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  have the strength to be able to take that type of criticism.
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  I think you have to be a very strong, strong, strong person to
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  have everything about you torn apart.
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  And to me, that's a mean girl. That's somebody who can't say
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  like whether you have an imperfection on your even a zit.
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  I mean, people, did you see that zit on her face or, oh, I don't
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  like the way she colored her hair or what was she thinking
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  when she wore that top? Now, don't give be wrong if
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  you're sitting around with your family, like meaning your
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  husband, your kids, and you say something like, oh, wow, look at
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  that trip. I'm not talking about that.
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  I'm talking about when you are with a group of other women.
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  I always wonder when I see stuff like that, like in the comments
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  on social media. Like what would make someone
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  want to sit down and write a mean comment about someone else?
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  I. Don't get it.
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  I don't know if it's because I'm over 50, I don't know what it
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  is, but I find that not just a mean girl, I find it incredibly
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  disturbing. And we are on all of the social
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  medias mostly. There's probably something new
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  that we don't know about because we're over right?
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  YouTube is the wild Wild West of.
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  Oh yeah, I agree with that too, people.
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  Are so mean we've had people make fun of us, you and I right
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  And you know some podcasts enjoy sitting and reading the main
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  comments They're they're spread out so I don't even want to
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  spend the time collect. Right, I don't pay attention to
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  anything like that. But people will say it's funny,
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  I'll post the exact same video on every different and then on
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  YouTube someone comes along and says something very nasty.
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  Yeah. I just don't know what kind of
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  unhappiness you have to be enduring.
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  Well, and here's the thing, if you turn comments off, then the
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  algorithms or something like that, they punish you for it
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  because you've turned off all your comments.
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  But you know, I think at my age, I don't care all, you know, if
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  if I were to see that, I would just turn the comments off.
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  But I just think that it everything right now has become
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  a very Mean Girls kind of society, especially for women
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  under 40 especially. That is rough.
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  Because there's Instagram, the way your life appears on
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  Instagram and the way your life is in real life.
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  And people think that the Instagram life is the real life.
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  And if you really know the person, you know what's really
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  going on in their life. And so I think what happens is
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  people get jealous of the Instagram life, not knowing that
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  this person may have a health issue or had a miscarriage or
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  whatever it may be. There's real things going on in
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  their life. And so I think it's just gotten
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  so bad. I mean so bad.
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  And you know, part of me, I think that's where I have become
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  more of a homebody. Like, yes, I have a very close
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  group of friends that I'll go out and see and stuff, but I
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  don't have time in my life to sit around and watch people talk
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  about other people. The minute I see that, I just
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  close off and I don't want to be around it.
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  I have better things to do. I have.
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  I would rather. Be around people who make me
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  laugh. And I think life is too short
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  now that I'm older to sit around and just listen to people pick
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  people apart. So I think there's a reason
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  sometimes why people isolate more if they're not picking nice
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  friends and they're not picking girls or not girls, women to
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  hang out with who are genuinely nice people, which I see you as
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  a generally nice person. I think for you, I think it's
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  not about being a mean girl. It's now.
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  That you say it. Yeah.
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  I feel a little bit better about that.
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  I do still wish that every single thing I do that makes
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  people say you're a nice person was coming from the purest of
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  all pure places. I don't think anyone, I, I think
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  everybody has a little bit of that in him.
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  Like, so for instance, if I went and did something humongous for
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  somebody and I mean, I didn't even get a thank you or an
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  acknowledgement in any, I mean, I don't think that's a mean girl
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  wanting to be acknowledged for something you've done nice for
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  somebody. I mean, if they didn't ask you
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  to do it, maybe you know, you, they, I didn't ask you to do it.
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  But I think as you get older, you have to live and learn.
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  Like if you do something nice for somebody and they're not
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  acknowledging it, then I guess you won't be doing something
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  nice for them next time. You know what I mean?
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  Like that's it. Mel Robbins, who has a podcast
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  that we love. Robbins.
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  There's something else that she recently posted, and I have to
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  tell you about this in an upcoming episode.
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  Remind me now to tell and Google this.
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  Everyone slithering. That's a Mel Robbins thing.
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  We'll get to that. But she did a video the other
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  day talking to young women, and young women were saying, I want
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  to talk to all. It starts with a girl saying,
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  I'm in my 20s, why is it so hard to make friends?
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  And Mel Robbins comes on and says, let me tell you why.
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  Because when you are in school, friendships are are a big thing
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  surrounded, but it becomes an individual sport when you're an
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  adult, you have to make effort and you have to forgive more and
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  you have to be patient and be willing to not see each other as
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  much. And you have to be willing to
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  meet people where they live and understand adult things that are
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  happening in their life. It's not like school where
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  they're they're going to be there the next day.
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  One one way or the other, it's completely different.
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  And my best friends are ones that I can go months and catch
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  up with it. It's like no time has has
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  passed. But having said that, there are
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  still friendship circles where there is jealousy over who's
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  spending more time with who. Oh, I thought she was so busy
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  with her kids. And now I see she's at the
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  talent center or the shopping center with so and so.
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  So I think yeah, you. See, I don't get any of that.
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  Right. You have to be willing as an
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  adult to not care about those things because people's time is
• 22:53
  managed differently. Sometimes something's more
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  convenient. It doesn't mean someone likes
• 22:56
  you less than the other person. There's that jealousy.
• 22:59
  Yeah, I don't. I don't have to deal with any of
• 23:01
  that because I first of all, I work, but second of all, I
• 23:06
  couldn't even stay. Like, that to me is like nails
• 23:09
  on a chalkboard. Like why I thought she had to do
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  this. Why is why she's spending time
• 23:13
  with some and so I cannot, I mean, maybe it's something
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  leftover from high school that gives me anxiety or middle
• 23:22
  school or whatever. I just I, I just don't want to
• 23:26
  be around that anymore. I think that everybody at a
• 23:29
  certain age has to wake up one day and realize like the other
• 23:32
  day I realized this. I'm 62.
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  If I'm lucky, I would live to what, 82?
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  But after that, I mean, you're, you know what I'm saying, you
• 23:43
  really have to think about how many summers you have left on
• 23:46
  this earth. How many Christmases do you have
• 23:50
  left on this earth? And do you want to spend it
• 23:53
  being like, she did this and then I said I was going to go,
• 23:57
  but she said no. And then, yeah, I just, I can't.
• 24:01
  We can't. We have that in the running
• 24:02
  community a little bit because there are some group team relay
• 24:06
  type events. And I've had my feelings hurt a
• 24:09
  couple of times not being on a list, not being on the team,
• 24:12
  being on the extra person's team, like the run over team,
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  right? And you know, not being anyone's
• 24:17
  first choice. And sometimes I'll think to
• 24:19
  myself, gosh, I feel like I'm not anyone's top of mind.
• 24:22
  I feel like I'm everybody's friend, but nobody's top of mind
• 24:25
  when that's probably not the case at all.
• 24:27
  But I'm sitting here worrying about are you thinking about me
• 24:30
  every day? Like who's picking me for their
• 24:33
  team and nobody needs? To but that's because you're
• 24:36
  competitive. Let's see, I'm not competitive
• 24:39
  at all, but. It's not even about that because
• 24:42
  it really even when it's a non competitive thing, it's more
• 24:44
  about just being who, who would you pick when you were putting
• 24:48
  together? It's just a weird it's.
• 24:50
  Well, that reminds me of like middle school when you were
• 24:53
  being picked in PE for a team and if if you were the last one
• 24:57
  to be picked, which by the way was always me because I'm not
• 25:01
  athletic at all. I mean, nobody wanted me on
• 25:04
  their team because I'm not an athlete.
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  And so I think, I think a lot of it does stem back from like your
• 25:11
  childhood. You always say.
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  Which I say about everything and I'm not saying dwell on it and
• 25:17
  sit around and go God, when I, you know, I'm saying you do have
• 25:22
  to sometimes look at your own behavior.
• 25:25
  Like why do I care so much what they think?
• 25:27
  Why do I care that I wasn't picked for this relay team or
• 25:31
  whatever? Because really that's what it's
• 25:33
  about. It's always something that stems
• 25:37
  back to something else. And, and you know, being a
• 25:42
  homebody probably stems back to something else.
• 25:45
  Do you know what I mean? Like not loving going out all
• 25:47
  the time and being a social butterfly and you know what I
• 25:51
  mean? I I think everything stems back,
• 25:55
  just something else. Surely it does.
• 25:58
  I feel like we could just go on and on and on.
• 26:01
  It's a great topic. It really really.
• 26:03
  Is, yeah. So if I mean even though you're
• 26:06
  over 50, yeah, I mean. That's the thing.
• 26:09
  So just remember this now, whether your perception of a
• 26:12
  mean girl is somebody who literally says something to your
• 26:14
  face and makes you feel worse, or you just get that vibe, or
• 26:18
  you're maybe around somebody who is always talking about other.
• 26:22
  People right? Look at that.
• 26:24
  Look at that. And wonder what it is about
• 26:26
  them. Maybe they need a little more
• 26:28
  boosting up, right? Maybe that's what it is.
• 26:30
  Either way, just remember this when you are over 50.
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  Instead of worrying what the Mean Girls think about you, you
• 26:39
  can let it go. And don't look back.
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