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- 0:11Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large and or Drunk Ladder podcast.
- 0:14Speaker 1: The podcast it's all about the peeky things happening in
- 0:16Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
- 0:18Speaker 1: about them. I'm Verial cast in and with me as always,
- 0:23Speaker 1: is the incredibly patient Jonathan Strickland. Yeah.
- 0:26Speaker 2: I have to be incredibly patient because taking all those
- 0:30Speaker 2: thumping noises out of the audio is really hard.
- 0:33Speaker 1: I'm trying to fix it, my friend, What was happening
- 0:36Speaker 1: till just now?
- 0:38Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it's well, it's because it's very difficult
- 0:40Speaker 2: to hear during the actual recording process. Like I never
- 0:43Speaker 2: notice it while we're recording. I only notice it when
- 0:46Speaker 2: I'm editing and I'm like, oh, something is like shifting
- 0:49Speaker 2: and hitting a microphone or something. But you know, those
- 0:53Speaker 2: are just that's just a peak behind the curtain to
- 0:56Speaker 2: what it's like to produce podcasts. Y'all.
- 0:59Speaker 1: All right, I think I've fixed it, but if I haven't,
- 1:01Speaker 1: yell at me and I will fix it again.
- 1:04Speaker 2: Oh, no worries, No worries. This wasn't meant to be
- 1:06Speaker 2: like calling it. Listen, there have been most of the time.
- 1:08Speaker 2: What the noises I'm taking out are me sniffing. That's
- 1:12Speaker 2: because I've had like a slight, like low cold for
- 1:16Speaker 2: like two months on top of everything else.
- 1:19Speaker 1: Fun fact, last week my husband had was under the weather.
- 1:24Speaker 1: We're guessing like a mild flu because he's vaccinated against
- 1:27Speaker 1: the flu, right, and I was like, oh man, I
- 1:29Speaker 1: dodged getting sick. And then this week, like all weekend
- 1:32Speaker 1: we're both feeling fine. He was completely covered, and then
- 1:35Speaker 1: this week I have been fighting a cold.
- 1:37Speaker 2: So yeah, well, I mean it happens like and even
- 1:40Speaker 2: with me, like, well, I would say that I don't
- 1:43Speaker 2: get out much, but I've definitely been into a ton
- 1:45Speaker 2: of doctor's offices recently, and I don't know, I guess
- 1:50Speaker 2: it's weird. I never really thought about it, but it
- 1:53Speaker 2: appears like doctor's offices like there's like a higher than
- 1:56Speaker 2: average number of sick people in them, so uh something. Anyway,
- 2:02Speaker 2: that's not what we're here to talk about. What we're
- 2:05Speaker 2: here to talk about is things water geeky and that
- 2:08Speaker 2: we love them.
- 2:10Speaker 1: Yes, and per usual or at least usual post our
- 2:14Speaker 1: last break, we're going to start with things that we've watched,
- 2:17Speaker 1: and per my promise of last week, I did, in
- 2:20Speaker 1: fact watch Spider Man across the Spider Verse.
- 2:23Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you were going to say you watched
- 2:25Speaker 2: the superb Owl.
- 2:26Speaker 1: I also watched the superb Owl.
- 2:29Speaker 2: Well, what did you think about Spider Man? Because I
- 2:32Speaker 2: still haven't I still need to watch that.
- 2:35Speaker 1: I really liked it. I felt highly inadequate that I
- 2:39Speaker 1: couldn't recognize all of the all of the references. But
- 2:43Speaker 1: I've never been like a huge like I liked Spider Man,
- 2:45Speaker 1: but I never like followed it hugely hugely, so it's reasonable.
- 2:50Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and they they introduced so many different variations
- 2:54Speaker 2: of Spider Man over the years that I mean, if
- 2:59Speaker 2: I were getting real like cynical, I'd be like, yeah,
- 3:01Speaker 2: of course, because they were trying to make more money
- 3:04Speaker 2: and it didn't really matter if if it made sense
- 3:06Speaker 2: from a story perspective or not. So I definitely wouldn't
- 3:11Speaker 2: recognize all the variants because I've really only you know,
- 3:16Speaker 2: casually followed the Peter Parker Spider Man story.
- 3:20Speaker 1: Well, and like every time I'm like, well, that surely
- 3:23Speaker 1: was just made up for the movie. It wasn't, but
- 3:27Speaker 1: it was really it was really good because it started
- 3:30Speaker 1: a little slow. I will say like it started a
- 3:32Speaker 1: little slow. There was a lot of like emotional stuff
- 3:34Speaker 1: and it was still good. But when the movie picked up,
- 3:37Speaker 1: it was fantastic. The villain ended up being quite scary
- 3:41Speaker 1: to me, which I enjoyed. And I thought that punk
- 3:45Speaker 1: Spidey was going to be my favorite character, Hoby, but
- 3:48Speaker 1: he wasn't. PUV was my favorite character, which was.
- 3:52Speaker 2: The Eastern Indian Spider Man. Yeah. The only reason I
- 3:58Speaker 2: know that is because I play Marvel Puzzle Quest and
- 4:01Speaker 2: that version of Spider Man was introduced as one of
- 4:03Speaker 2: the one of the characters you can collect, and I
- 4:06Speaker 2: got him.
- 4:07Speaker 1: Just absolutely delightful. Just but it was really well done.
- 4:12Speaker 2: You know.
- 4:12Speaker 1: The voice cast is always is amazing in that I
- 4:14Speaker 1: quite enjoyed it. The end was surprising and wonderful.
- 4:17Speaker 2: How did it stack up against the first one.
- 4:20Speaker 1: That's a hard question because I I can't I can't
- 4:25Speaker 1: really compare them. Again, I think it. I think it
- 4:28Speaker 1: was a little bit the story. The scenes were not
- 4:31Speaker 1: slower in the beginning, but the story was slower in
- 4:35Speaker 1: the beginning kind of. It took a while to really
- 4:37Speaker 1: get a good good momentum. I you know, it wasn't
- 4:43Speaker 1: as new, it wasn't as new of a thing, right.
- 4:46Speaker 2: Yeah, so the joy of Discovery. You had already experienced
- 4:49Speaker 2: that with the first one.
- 4:50Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think I liked it just as much.
- 4:54Speaker 2: That's cool, awesome. Well, I'm so I'm so pleased to
- 4:57Speaker 2: hear it. Like I said, I still need to see it,
- 4:59Speaker 2: and obviously, I'm sure most of our listeners have seen,
- 5:01Speaker 2: like saw this like months ago at this point, but
- 5:05Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to it. Maybe I'll actually give
- 5:08Speaker 2: it a shot. I'm supposed to take a little bit
- 5:10Speaker 2: of time off in another week or so, so maybe
- 5:14Speaker 2: I can set some of that time aside for watching that,
- 5:18Speaker 2: because it I've been looking forward to it. Instead, what
- 5:22Speaker 2: I did was, you know, i'd only watched the first
- 5:26Speaker 2: episode of season four of True Detective until this week,
- 5:30Speaker 2: and then I binge the other four episodes that are
- 5:32Speaker 2: out now. The sixth episode comes out on the eighteenth.
- 5:36Speaker 2: We're recording this on the sixteenth, so I have not
- 5:39Speaker 2: had a chance to watch the final episode of season four,
- 5:44Speaker 2: And you know what, the things that I had issues
- 5:48Speaker 2: with from the first episode, I still have issues with now,
- 5:51Speaker 2: even though I went ahead and binged the other four episodes.
- 5:55Speaker 2: But more so, like I don't know, I don't know
- 6:00Speaker 2: if they're going to really finally say yeah, there's some
- 6:04Speaker 2: sort of supernatural element here, or if they're going to
- 6:06Speaker 2: attempt to kind of hand wave it away, which would
- 6:09Speaker 2: seem really weird considering a lot of the stuff that
- 6:12Speaker 2: has been unfolding in the series, or they're just not
- 6:17Speaker 2: going to bother to explain it at all, which is
- 6:19Speaker 2: what I suspect they're going to do and I feel
- 6:22Speaker 2: will be the least satisfying. But I guess I'll see
- 6:26Speaker 2: there's actually a lot of stuff they need to wrap
- 6:30Speaker 2: up in the sixth episode in order for it to
- 6:34Speaker 2: have a satisfying conclusion, because I mean, there's the main mystery,
- 6:38Speaker 2: it's actually a pair of mysteries that are at the
- 6:40Speaker 2: heart of the story of the season, But then there
- 6:43Speaker 2: are all these other subplots that they've introduced, and I
- 6:49Speaker 2: question whether they can bring everything to a satisfying conclusion
- 6:53Speaker 2: in a single episode and not have it feel rushed
- 6:57Speaker 2: or artificial. I want to have enjoyed this season more
- 7:02Speaker 2: than I have, but I consistently find it vexing.
- 7:08Speaker 1: I get that, and you know what, I think, I
- 7:11Speaker 1: think them ending with not explaining anything, if it isn't
- 7:15Speaker 1: Lovecraft inspired, is.
- 7:17Speaker 2: Accurate. I mean, yeah, it's because, like in the first season,
- 7:23Speaker 2: there was this sort of supernatural subtext at the very
- 7:28Speaker 2: least in the first season, but you could you could
- 7:31Speaker 2: walk away saying, all right, it had a lot of
- 7:35Speaker 2: super supernatural subtexts, but nothing was overtly supernatural, and it
- 7:40Speaker 2: totally could have taken place in a real world. You
- 7:43Speaker 2: don't even need magic realism. You just need people who
- 7:46Speaker 2: are delusional for one reason or another. Maybe they're mentally unwell,
- 7:49Speaker 2: maybe they have been drugged, maybe they've been brainwashed, whatever
- 7:53Speaker 2: it is, right, and this season, I feel like there
- 7:57Speaker 2: are fewer ways to just kind of shrug it off
- 8:03Speaker 2: and not explain it unless you argue that you know,
- 8:06Speaker 2: it's set in Alaska, and it's set in the winter,
- 8:10Speaker 2: when it's far enough north in Alaska where the sun
- 8:13Speaker 2: sets and it stays dark for several weeks. Right, So
- 8:20Speaker 2: maybe your argument is this is the psychological toll that
- 8:24Speaker 2: takes on people when there's no sunlight for days on end.
- 8:29Speaker 2: That maybe what they go with. But I don't think
- 8:32Speaker 2: it would be a very satisfying answer. It wouldn't satisfy
- 8:35Speaker 2: me anyway. I don't know about the average viewer.
- 8:38Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, is this the do have they announced whether
- 8:42Speaker 1: they're planning on another season or if this is their final.
- 8:45Speaker 2: I haven't heard, but I wouldn't be surprised if they
- 8:47Speaker 2: planned another one, because it's one of those things where
- 8:51Speaker 2: it's a prestige title that gets a lot of attention.
- 8:57Speaker 2: Most of the reviews I've seen for season four have
- 8:59Speaker 2: been pretty positive. A few of them have taken the
- 9:01Speaker 2: same issue that I have, which is that a lot
- 9:04Speaker 2: of the stuff feels like it's filler or that it's
- 9:07Speaker 2: a distraction, and that it's purposefully holding back progress on
- 9:13Speaker 2: the main mystery, because if they dedicated the entire attention
- 9:19Speaker 2: to the main mystery, you'd be done in like two
- 9:21Speaker 2: and a half episodes, so they have to have all
- 9:24Speaker 2: this extra stuff to pad it out a bit. But
- 9:27Speaker 2: the problem is that the padding starts to kind of
- 9:29Speaker 2: take center stage, and it's not as interesting as that
- 9:33Speaker 2: central mystery is, and so you can get frustrated, but
- 9:38Speaker 2: that doesn't necessarily mean it'll prevent them from doing another show,
- 9:41Speaker 2: And if it gets continues to get critical acclaim, then
- 9:45Speaker 2: there are a lot of reasons to do another season.
- 9:47Speaker 2: So I haven't heard anything about season five, but I
- 9:51Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised about it, whether they would whether they
- 9:54Speaker 2: would do another one that was inspired by Chambers work.
- 9:59Speaker 2: I don't know, because this one feels like it's like
- 10:02Speaker 2: the first season felt that it was heavily inspired by
- 10:04Speaker 2: chambers work. This one feels like it's none as directly
- 10:09Speaker 2: inspired by chambers work because they haven't referenced the King
- 10:12Speaker 2: in Yellow or Carcosa or anything like that. But they
- 10:15Speaker 2: have referenced the image of the spiral, which was first
- 10:19Speaker 2: introduced in season one of True Detective. They've they've referenced
- 10:24Speaker 2: that a ton in this season. So maybe they would
- 10:28Speaker 2: go to another season where it ends up feeling more grounded,
- 10:31Speaker 2: because that's what they did with seasons two and three.
- 10:34Speaker 1: Gotcha? Gotcha? And then you know, I watched the superb Owl,
- 10:41Speaker 1: Yes Jonathan did not, but watched a lot of commercials.
- 10:46Speaker 2: I did watch a lot of commercials just because I
- 10:50Speaker 2: don't know, I don't do it the rest of the year.
- 10:53Speaker 1: So look, there's so there's an art form to commercials
- 10:59Speaker 1: and a lot of times, maybe not for the Super
- 11:02Speaker 1: Bowl commercials, but I know for like a lot of
- 11:04Speaker 1: more like local ads, there's a lot of collaboration between
- 11:06Speaker 1: the actors and the writers, which is kind of cool
- 11:10Speaker 1: because they don't always have the big staff that like
- 11:12Speaker 1: a TV show or a movie does. So I like
- 11:15Speaker 1: the art form I enjoy, but also apparently a lot
- 11:18Speaker 1: of the superb Owl commercials that I enjoyed critics did not.
- 11:25Speaker 1: So we will spare you that.
- 11:27Speaker 2: You know, it's funny because Ariel was mentioning some of
- 11:29Speaker 2: her favorites and I was like, uh uh, you know,
- 11:32Speaker 2: according to this other article that I have access to,
- 11:37Speaker 2: those are the same same commercials that they did not like.
- 11:45Speaker 2: And uh, not to put shade on Ariel, but just
- 11:48Speaker 2: like I felt that the critics, because I didn't watch
- 11:52Speaker 2: all of these commercials, but I felt like the critics
- 11:54Speaker 2: who were specifically calling those out seem to have like
- 11:58Speaker 2: no sense of humor or joy because some of the
- 12:01Speaker 2: up some of the ones that I thought were genuinely
- 12:05Speaker 2: funny were being flagged as oh, this didn't work, like
- 12:08Speaker 2: the Michael Sarah one for Sarah V. Moisturizer. I thought
- 12:13Speaker 2: one it was a great send up of those styles
- 12:16Speaker 2: of commercials in the nineties, like the Calvin Klein ads
- 12:19Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, you know, those those obsession for
- 12:22Speaker 2: men kind of ads where it was all very arty
- 12:27Speaker 2: and vague, but also it was obviously Michael Sarah poking
- 12:32Speaker 2: fun at himself, and I just thought it was hilarious.
- 12:36Speaker 2: And the ones I was looking at were like, nah,
- 12:38Speaker 2: this didn't work at all, Like are you dead inside?
- 12:40Speaker 2: What happened?
- 12:42Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? I mean and some of them, like some
- 12:45Speaker 1: of them are dumb funny, but you know what, I
- 12:46Speaker 1: like dumb funny commercials. If you can't make me chuckle
- 12:49Speaker 1: or go oh that's clever, you're not going to grab me. Yeah,
- 12:55Speaker 1: But a lot of a lot of the commercials that
- 12:57Speaker 1: are worth talking about our trailers, so we will talk
- 13:01Speaker 1: about them.
- 13:02Speaker 2: Yeah, or they were trailers for trailers.
- 13:06Speaker 1: Yes, which we talked about this last year. It annoys
- 13:09Speaker 1: me to no end because if you're actually watching this game,
- 13:12Speaker 1: which I do, mind you, the first half was boring,
- 13:16Speaker 1: and after the halftime show, which was delightful, it picked up.
- 13:21Speaker 2: And was a really good.
- 13:22Speaker 1: Game in the second half. But like, I don't if
- 13:24Speaker 1: I'm watching the game and I'm watching the commercials, I'm
- 13:26Speaker 1: not gonna leave. So I have to like get on
- 13:28Speaker 1: my phone and make a note to go look at
- 13:30Speaker 1: the commercial later because I'm not gonna leave. Like door
- 13:33Speaker 1: Dash also did a sweepstakes where you could win everything
- 13:37Speaker 1: that was advertised during the Super Bowl, which is a
- 13:39Speaker 1: really cool thing, including like an Uber Eats gift card.
- 13:42Speaker 1: I know this is not really dorky, but I find
- 13:43Speaker 1: it cool. But you had to enter in this incredibly
- 13:47Speaker 1: long URL, which meant you had to watch the commercial
- 13:51Speaker 1: over and over or be like the best speed typer
- 13:54Speaker 1: ever to enter. And I'm like I started, and I'm like, no,
- 13:59Speaker 1: I want to I gotta finish. I gotta watch the game.
- 14:01Speaker 2: So yeah, that's how they get you.
- 14:05Speaker 1: That's how they get you.
- 14:06Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I I I find the I find the
- 14:09Speaker 2: trailers for a trailer to be really irritating. I don't
- 14:13Speaker 2: that that's an that's like a nine on the irritating scale.
- 14:16Speaker 2: The ten for me is when you start a trailer
- 14:19Speaker 2: on YouTube and it starts with like a five second
- 14:23Speaker 2: like preview for the trailer you're already about to watch.
- 14:27Speaker 2: That's the worst. Stop doing it. If it's like a
- 14:30Speaker 2: pivotal moment in the trailer that's going to be a
- 14:33Speaker 2: wow moment, don't show me at the beginning. I want
- 14:37Speaker 2: to see it as it unfolds in the trailer. That's irritating.
- 14:41Speaker 2: Stop it.
- 14:42Speaker 1: Yeah, the trailers for trailers are on a trailer in
- 14:47Speaker 1: YouTube as a commercial are frustrating, which so we've talked
- 14:52Speaker 1: about before. I'm not anti commercial because it pays if
- 14:55Speaker 1: you don't want to pay extra price for your media,
- 14:57Speaker 1: that's how they can afford to still make it. But man,
- 15:03Speaker 1: when I turn on a short four minute YouTube video lately,
- 15:06Speaker 1: and then I have to watch four minutes of commercial
- 15:08Speaker 1: to get to the YouTube video, it's frustrating.
- 15:11Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so like, I'm I'm subscribed to the YouTube,
- 15:16Speaker 2: so I'm pay Because I was subscribing to a different service,
- 15:20Speaker 2: it got pooreded over to YouTube, which means I don't
- 15:23Speaker 2: get commercials on YouTube unless I seek them out, So
- 15:26Speaker 2: I don't experience that. But it's funny because when I
- 15:29Speaker 2: watch a long form video where there are pauses that
- 15:33Speaker 2: have been inserted in, I'm like, oh, this is where
- 15:36Speaker 2: commercials would have gone if I if I had not
- 15:39Speaker 2: subscribed to YouTube. But otherwise I'm I'm unaware of it,
- 15:45Speaker 2: so I don't encounter that. But I can totally see
- 15:48Speaker 2: how that can be frustrating. It's kind of similar to
- 15:50Speaker 2: how on the web when pop ups started to become
- 15:54Speaker 2: a thing, and those were incredibly obnoxious, especially pop ups
- 15:59Speaker 2: that would auto actually start playing audio or video and
- 16:03Speaker 2: you'd have to like hunt around to be able to
- 16:05Speaker 2: close them out. The worst or the ones that still
- 16:08Speaker 2: happen where you'll go to a website and you start
- 16:10Speaker 2: to try and read something and the top margin suddenly
- 16:14Speaker 2: scrolls down and covers like three quarters of the screen. Stop. Stop,
- 16:20Speaker 2: you're just making us resent whatever it is you're advertising.
- 16:24Speaker 1: It doesn't work, especially if you can't then close it now.
- 16:28Speaker 1: I will say like front loading the ads works on
- 16:31Speaker 1: longer YouTube videos. So like let's say I'm watching a
- 16:33Speaker 1: Critical Role or Dimension twenty or whatever. I don't watch
- 16:36Speaker 1: to Mention twenty on YouTube anymore, but when I did,
- 16:39Speaker 1: it does work better for that because then I can
- 16:41Speaker 1: watch all the commercials at the beginning and get an
- 16:43Speaker 1: uninterrupted stream. Yeah, but are a less interrupted stream. But
- 16:49Speaker 1: on short videos it doesn't quite work as well.
- 16:52Speaker 2: We could talk at length that YouTube's various advertising strategies,
- 16:57Speaker 2: but we've got a let's see, it looks to me,
- 17:01Speaker 2: based upon my estimation, a buttload of stuff to talk.
- 17:05Speaker 1: About, yes, and not a buttload of time.
- 17:08Speaker 2: So I think it's time for us to move to
- 17:12Speaker 2: our favorite segment and yours. I don't know if that's true,
- 17:16Speaker 2: but it's thirty seconds or less and I'm first, So
- 17:22Speaker 2: here we go. You can't keep a good pair of
- 17:25Speaker 2: Charlottan's down. We're getting another and presumably final film in
- 17:29Speaker 2: the Conjuring series. Michael Chavez, who has directed movies in
- 17:34Speaker 2: that universe, already, is in talks to direct. David Leslie
- 17:39Speaker 2: Johnson McGoldrick wrote the screenplay once he finally finished writing
- 17:43Speaker 2: his incredibly long name on the contract. It starts shooting
- 17:47Speaker 2: in Atlanta this summer, so maybe we'll see Ariel as
- 17:51Speaker 2: a giga ghost.
- 17:54Speaker 1: That would be awesome. So Chune Rader one through three
- 17:59Speaker 1: has been mastered if you wanted to play those lovely
- 18:03Speaker 1: polygonal games. But in the remastering, the gaming company Crystal
- 18:11Speaker 1: Dynamics has decided to not take out the harmful stereotypes
- 18:14Speaker 1: that were put into the first three great games, and
- 18:16Speaker 1: rather add a disclaimer at the beginning which says, rather
- 18:20Speaker 1: than removing the content, we have chosen to present it
- 18:22Speaker 1: here in its original form, un altered, in the hopes
- 18:23Speaker 1: that we may acknowledge its harmful impact and learn from it.
- 18:26Speaker 1: I personally I understand if they don't want to change
- 18:31Speaker 1: the game that much. But at the same time, when
- 18:33Speaker 1: you're playing the game, you're probably not necessarily learning from
- 18:37Speaker 1: it unless they put subtitles like this is harmful, this
- 18:39Speaker 1: is why it's harmful as you're playing.
- 18:42Speaker 2: Maybe, But I mean Disney does the same thing for
- 18:45Speaker 2: some of their cartoon content that has not just cartoon content,
- 18:50Speaker 2: but some of their stuff that was made specifically, like
- 18:52Speaker 2: in the nineteen fifties and nineteen sixties and like the
- 18:55Speaker 2: Muppets and stuff, Yeah, and the Muppets in the seventies
- 18:58Speaker 2: and eighties, where there's been some stuff that in our
- 19:04Speaker 2: modern approach to media we would recognize as being harmful
- 19:09Speaker 2: and should not have happened at that time. I don't know.
- 19:12Speaker 2: I have feelings about this. I think I think it's
- 19:16Speaker 2: responsible if you acknowledge it and you allow people to
- 19:19Speaker 2: still make the decision as to whether or not they
- 19:21Speaker 2: consume that media. But to your point, I do understand,
- 19:24Speaker 2: like when it's happening, it's not like it's not like
- 19:27Speaker 2: you can have a deeper discussion about why was this
- 19:30Speaker 2: wrong then, and what have we learned since, and what
- 19:35Speaker 2: would be you know, the appropriate thing to do.
- 19:38Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I don't know. Maybe a middle ground
- 19:41Speaker 1: would be if there's like a specific stereotype or injustice
- 19:45Speaker 1: that is shown, to put a little blurb about that
- 19:47Speaker 1: with a learn more here click, either at the beginning
- 19:49Speaker 1: or at the end.
- 19:50Speaker 2: That's true in games, you can do that kind of thing,
- 19:52Speaker 2: So that is a possibility. All right, I apologize I
- 19:55Speaker 2: derailed it this this time. Here we go. So in
- 19:58Speaker 2: last week's episode, I mentioned that Leitsch had been tapped
- 20:01Speaker 2: to direct a new Jurassic World movie, and now he's
- 20:03Speaker 2: been untapped, so reportedly there was a difference in vision
- 20:07Speaker 2: between Leich and Universal. As a reminder, this new entry
- 20:11Speaker 2: in Jurassic World is said to be an entirely new take,
- 20:14Speaker 2: which suggests we will not have returning characters show up
- 20:17Speaker 2: trying to prevent the military from weaponizing dinosaurs, which is
- 20:20Speaker 2: good because that was dumb.
- 20:24Speaker 1: I wonder if they're not going to be returning dinosaurs
- 20:27Speaker 1: in it.
- 20:28Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it'll be Jurassic World, but no dinosaurs. It's
- 20:32Speaker 2: just the it's just the flora, none of the fauna.
- 20:35Speaker 2: It's just the plants.
- 20:36Speaker 1: Well, it could be like all wooly mammi mammoths.
- 20:40Speaker 2: That's too Jurassic Jurassic's too early for wooly mammoths though.
- 20:44Speaker 1: Yeah, Jurassic Park no longer Jurassic.
- 20:47Speaker 2: Well, to be fair, like half the dinosaurs, more than
- 20:50Speaker 2: half of the ones that appeared actually came from like
- 20:53Speaker 2: the Cretaceous period, not the Jurassic period. But that's that's
- 20:56Speaker 2: an argument for a different time.
- 20:58Speaker 1: Yes, I derailed it this time, okay. Next Disney has
- 21:02Speaker 1: released art for and a release a premier date for
- 21:06Speaker 1: their original series Renegade Mel, which is about a young
- 21:10Speaker 1: woman who finds herself framed for murder and becomes an
- 21:13Speaker 1: outlaw in eighteenth century England and then you know, makes
- 21:19Speaker 1: friends with himpish characters and life gets crazy from there.
- 21:23Speaker 1: No trailers yet, it looks delightful. It comes out on
- 21:26Speaker 1: March twenty ninth. This is something I'm looking for. Also,
- 21:28Speaker 1: the artwork on the poster. The girl looks vaguely like
- 21:32Speaker 1: our friend Shay to me, so friend of the show Shay.
- 21:37Speaker 1: All right, the show say she's legally changed her name.
- 21:40Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right. Dan Trachtenberg, who directed Pray, is
- 21:45Speaker 2: in talks to direct a new predator film called bad Lands.
- 21:48Speaker 2: This one is not connected to Pray, but it is
- 21:51Speaker 2: supposed to have a woman take on the lead role,
- 21:54Speaker 2: and it's also supposed to take place in the future.
- 21:56Speaker 2: So apparently Pray really reinvigorated the franchise because now they're
- 22:00Speaker 2: a rumors of multiple Predator projects that are in early development.
- 22:04Speaker 2: So could we get a Predator Cinemac universe please know?
- 22:09Speaker 1: Yeah? This second movie is going to be called Eat
- 22:11Speaker 1: and then the last one is it Love Stool Love.
- 22:13Speaker 2: Yeah? I love that Predators Predators Eat Pray Love Trilogy.
- 22:21Speaker 1: It's Pray Eat Love. It's anyhow Okay. Lastly, in our
- 22:26Speaker 1: thirty seconds or less, there is a John Wick Experience
- 22:29Speaker 1: coming to Area fifteen in Las Vegas, which is right
- 22:32Speaker 1: next to a Mega mart, which Jonathan and I have
- 22:35Speaker 1: talked about before because it's super cool. In front of
- 22:37Speaker 1: the show. Shay is also visiting.
- 22:40Speaker 2: Yeah, she went there yesterday.
- 22:43Speaker 1: Yeah. I always say that because Jonson told me yesterday.
- 22:47Speaker 1: It's going to be kind of it sounds like it's
- 22:49Speaker 1: going to be like a mix between like the Stranger
- 22:52Speaker 1: Things interactive experience and a murder mystery because or where
- 22:56Speaker 1: you get like assigned to character and you go in
- 22:58Speaker 1: and you interact with the other characters and go on missions.
- 23:02Speaker 1: Or something like that, or like the Spy Museum or
- 23:03Speaker 1: something like that. It sounds pretty cool. Hopefully you won't
- 23:08Speaker 1: have to, you know, shoot anybody in the face.
- 23:12Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. I think the setting is supposed to
- 23:14Speaker 2: be the Continental, which is the hotel that is featured
- 23:18Speaker 2: heavily in the various John Wick films. And yeah, I
- 23:23Speaker 2: guess by the end of it, you too will be
- 23:24Speaker 2: convinced that absolutely every single person who coexists in the
- 23:29Speaker 2: world with you is also a highly skilled, highly trained assassin.
- 23:34Speaker 1: That's the best way to live life.
- 23:36Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, John. The John Wicks series just is absolutely ridiculous.
- 23:41Speaker 2: I love the action, but I'm like, how does the
- 23:44Speaker 2: economy of this world work because apparently everybody is a
- 23:48Speaker 2: trained killer? Yep, yep.
- 23:52Speaker 1: Gotta gotta send in those body count tokens yep to
- 23:58Speaker 1: do your laundry. Now we're on to our regular news,
- 24:03Speaker 1: and we're gonna start with a very sad story.
- 24:05Speaker 2: Yeah, very sad story. Tragic, tragic story. It's actually personally tragic.
- 24:11Speaker 2: It has has ripped a hole in Aeriel's heart because
- 24:20Speaker 2: while she is missed thing, she is not the thing. Yeah.
- 24:25Speaker 1: Yeah. The fantastic forecasting has been announced and I am
- 24:28Speaker 1: not in it. I didn't even get an audition, but honestly,
- 24:31Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. I like the lineup. Eben mossbackering
- 24:34Speaker 1: is like how I just like slid through his name
- 24:38Speaker 1: because I couldn't pronounce it correctly with my cold is
- 24:41Speaker 1: The thing which we kind of talked about was a
- 24:43Speaker 1: rumor last week. Joseph Quinn, who was Eddie in the
- 24:50Speaker 1: season three Stranger Things, is Johnny Storm, Pedro Pascal is
- 24:55Speaker 1: mister Fantastic, and then Vanessa Kirby. Vanessa Kirby is Sue Storm,
- 25:02Speaker 1: who I I'm not as familiar with. I haven't seen
- 25:05Speaker 1: the stuff that she's been in, but I'm sure she'll
- 25:07Speaker 1: be great.
- 25:08Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 25:08Speaker 1: Well, I'm actually quite excited about the casting.
- 25:10Speaker 2: One of our friends or one of my friends anyway, commented,
- 25:15Speaker 2: I saw it on the Book of Faces that that
- 25:19Speaker 2: he was not super jazz to hear about Pedro Pascal
- 25:24Speaker 2: because he said he's over exposed to me. And I said,
- 25:27Speaker 2: would you say he was stretched thin? Because then it's
- 25:30Speaker 2: type casting.
- 25:33Speaker 1: I you know, I was my only my only thing
- 25:40Speaker 1: that we keep me thinking from thinking Pedro Pascal is
- 25:42Speaker 1: totally something that I don't want put on me as
- 25:44Speaker 1: an actor, which is that his body type doesn't scream
- 25:47Speaker 1: mister fantastic to Me'm kind of more built for me.
- 25:51Speaker 2: It's it's also the fact that we've already seen mister
- 25:54Speaker 2: Fantastic as John Krasinski. And you know, you could argue, yeah,
- 26:00Speaker 2: but that was a multiverse thing, right, Like, that was
- 26:02Speaker 2: a different multi that was different universe within the multiverse,
- 26:05Speaker 2: and in that universe he is read Richards. But I
- 26:09Speaker 2: would argue, maybe, but why are the other characters played
- 26:15Speaker 2: by the same actors where it's like the variations of
- 26:19Speaker 2: the different like characters, but they're played like like like
- 26:25Speaker 2: Captain Carter is still played by at well, So like
- 26:29Speaker 2: I don't get it.
- 26:31Speaker 1: I mean, so it could be that John Krasinski didn't
- 26:34Speaker 1: have time or didn't want to be mister Fantastic, you know,
- 26:40Speaker 1: mister fantastic all of a sudden, my brain just shorted
- 26:42Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, full time. And I know that, like,
- 26:45Speaker 1: which I would expect more in earlier days of the
- 26:47Speaker 1: MCU when they were putting people into these very long contracts, right, yeah,
- 26:51Speaker 1: which we had talked about earlier, that they aren't doing
- 26:53Speaker 1: as much. You know, there's a myriad of reasons that
- 26:57Speaker 1: he could not be doing it. It could be that
- 27:00Speaker 1: they want to want a fresh start. It could be
- 27:04Speaker 1: that he went through a radiation field and got darker
- 27:08Speaker 1: and gruffer. But that being said, Pedro Pascal has like
- 27:15Speaker 1: has such a vast range of goofy, too serious that
- 27:19Speaker 1: I think he will do well in acting the role.
- 27:21Speaker 2: Oh, I agree, I think he'll do a good job.
- 27:23Speaker 2: It's it's no shade on Pedro Pascal. I really like
- 27:26Speaker 2: his work. I mean, I've seen him perform on stage.
- 27:29Speaker 2: Didn't even know it was him at the time. Nice
- 27:31Speaker 2: and yeah, he was in king Lear and I really
- 27:37Speaker 2: like his work. I enjoy his projects. But it's just
- 27:41Speaker 2: one of those things where it just kind of irks
- 27:43Speaker 2: me where they've already established an actor in a role.
- 27:46Speaker 2: But then also, I got to get over myself. Marvel
- 27:50Speaker 2: has recast roles multiple times, so it's not like it's
- 27:56Speaker 2: not like I should really be upset about it, Like
- 27:58Speaker 2: they've done this in the past already, and so yeah,
- 28:04Speaker 2: I'll get over it. I'm sure. What I'm really excited
- 28:07Speaker 2: about is that we're finally going to get a Fantastic
- 28:09Speaker 2: four film. My hope is that we'll see a lot
- 28:12Speaker 2: more care given to crafting this film so that it's
- 28:18Speaker 2: an entertaining story. And I really I don't know why
- 28:21Speaker 2: I'm hoping this, considering the nature of the Fantastic Four
- 28:24Speaker 2: as powers, but I'm really hoping it doesn't ultimately lead
- 28:29Speaker 2: to a giant like PS three computer generated you know,
- 28:34Speaker 2: spectacle at the end where you don't feel anything because
- 28:38Speaker 2: nothing feels grounded or real.
- 28:41Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope so too into your Marvel recasting thing.
- 28:45Speaker 1: Marvel also used to say that if you played one
- 28:47Speaker 1: character in the MCU, you couldn't play another. This is
- 28:51Speaker 1: another example of that being changed because Eben moss bachrec
- 28:55Speaker 1: has played Microchip in The Punisher, so, which is now
- 29:00Speaker 1: technically a part of the MCUH.
- 29:02Speaker 2: So the Netflix series The Punisher. You mean, yes, okay, yes,
- 29:06Speaker 2: not like not like one of the terrible film versions
- 29:10Speaker 2: that were done before the Netflix series. No, which they don't,
- 29:14Speaker 2: they don't count in the MCU. They are. They were like,
- 29:18Speaker 2: it's kind of like the old Captain America movies and
- 29:20Speaker 2: stuff like that. They just that's before the MCU era.
- 29:24Speaker 1: You say that, but I feel like nothing is off
- 29:29Speaker 1: limits because.
- 29:31Speaker 2: I feel like you could see a reference to it
- 29:33Speaker 2: occasionally either sometimes I wonder if they are referencing very
- 29:39Speaker 2: old Marvel film moments, because there was one where it
- 29:43Speaker 2: was Henry Salinger's kid. I can't remember his name, but
- 29:45Speaker 2: he played Captain America. And the gag that I've I
- 29:51Speaker 2: remember is that he would fake illness in order to
- 29:56Speaker 2: get to draw people away from a car so that
- 29:59Speaker 2: he could then run onto the car and steal the
- 30:01Speaker 2: car and drive off. And he does it like twice
- 30:04Speaker 2: in the movie, and uh, and it's ridiculous. And I
- 30:07Speaker 2: want to say that in Captain America Winter's Soldier, there's
- 30:11Speaker 2: a scene where he does that, and I was sitting
- 30:14Speaker 2: there thinking like, is this just coincidence or are they
- 30:18Speaker 2: actually kind of tongue in cheek referencing this almost forgotten
- 30:23Speaker 2: about in Captain America movie.
- 30:26Speaker 1: I bet it was. I bet it was purposeful. But
- 30:30Speaker 1: you know, the the X Men, I think when they start,
- 30:33Speaker 1: like the X Men movie started pre MCU, and those
- 30:37Speaker 1: are being pulled in to the MCU.
- 30:39Speaker 2: Now, yeah, yeah, we even we even got references I
- 30:43Speaker 2: remember in the first way back in the first X
- 30:47Speaker 2: Men film, not even before the days of Future Past stuff.
- 30:51Speaker 2: When you get to the first X Men film, they
- 30:53Speaker 2: referenced the cartoon series, which we will chat about toward
- 30:56Speaker 2: the end of this episode, but they referenced the because
- 30:58Speaker 2: they had one of the characters from the cartoon series
- 31:01Speaker 2: who was not in the comic books in order to
- 31:04Speaker 2: have a character that they could very quickly kill off.
- 31:08Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. But speaking of X Men meshing with
- 31:15Speaker 1: MCU and all kinds of things being brought in, we
- 31:19Speaker 1: did get a trailer for the Deadpool in Wolverine trailer
- 31:23Speaker 1: doing the drinks to per Bowel, which means we actually
- 31:26Speaker 1: got a Deadpool in Wolverine trailer.
- 31:27Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I thought this. I mean it was interesting.
- 31:32Speaker 2: They pull in the Time Variant Authority, the TVA that
- 31:36Speaker 2: we saw in the Loki series, so they appear to
- 31:40Speaker 2: have a big part in this, and it seems like
- 31:46Speaker 2: at least part of the reason is because Deadpool does
- 31:48Speaker 2: have this ability to break the fourth wall, which makes
- 31:52Speaker 2: him not unique because She Hulk also does it, but
- 31:57Speaker 2: unusual and so first, for one reason or another, the
- 32:01Speaker 2: TVA has decided to visit Deadpool. Maybe it's because of
- 32:06Speaker 2: the way Deadpool two ends, which it has a little
- 32:12Speaker 2: bit of time traveling shenanigans in it. Yeah, that might
- 32:16Speaker 2: be why. But yeah, I'm.
- 32:18Speaker 1: Does that possibly cause branches?
- 32:20Speaker 2: So yeah, absolutely so maybe that's going to be the thing.
- 32:23Speaker 2: I still haven't seen Loki season two. I really need
- 32:25Speaker 2: to because I want to see how that TVA storyline progresses.
- 32:30Speaker 1: I yes, I there are references to the end of
- 32:37Speaker 1: the series. I don't remember if it's in the Deadpool trailer,
- 32:39Speaker 1: but in something that I saw recently. So it's a
- 32:43Speaker 1: little slow. There are some episodes that are really good.
- 32:46Speaker 1: There's some bits that are really good. I feel like
- 32:51Speaker 1: King's character in season two talks so slow that it
- 32:56Speaker 1: I get why he did it, but I just I
- 32:58Speaker 1: desperately wanted him to finish a sentence.
- 33:00Speaker 2: Well, if it makes you feel any better, he finished
- 33:02Speaker 2: his career with the MCU.
- 33:04Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I'm going to say, that
- 33:07Speaker 1: doesn't actually make me feel better. I wish that he
- 33:11Speaker 1: hadn't done the things that he did so that he
- 33:12Speaker 1: could still have a career, because I don't like seeing
- 33:14Speaker 1: anybody fail.
- 33:15Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, anyway, what do you think of the
- 33:18Speaker 2: Deadpool and Wolverine trailer? What was your reaction?
- 33:22Speaker 1: I loved it. I thought it was hilarious. I liked
- 33:27Speaker 1: how self referential it was. I was honestly surprised by
- 33:31Speaker 1: how much of the Disney MCU was pulled into it,
- 33:35Speaker 1: though I shouldn't have been. And there was one like
- 33:39Speaker 1: very brief cameo appearance that I asked my husband. I
- 33:41Speaker 1: was like, is that And my husband's like, I don't
- 33:42Speaker 1: think so, but it was, And I was right.
- 33:46Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to doom this conversation. But
- 33:50Speaker 2: was it a Doctor of certain malevolent renown? Yes? Yes,
- 33:54Speaker 2: I was wondering if that was Doctor Doom when I
- 33:57Speaker 2: saw the image of the armored masked man in a cowl,
- 34:02Speaker 2: and I thought, that doesn't look like Doctor Doom's mask.
- 34:06Speaker 2: But this being a multiversal kind of movie, that totally
- 34:10Speaker 2: could be a Doctor Doom. Yeah.
- 34:13Speaker 1: Yeah, So like I don't know for certain obviously, but
- 34:16Speaker 1: like some of our mutual friends who watch a lot
- 34:18Speaker 1: of movies also are postulizing that.
- 34:21Speaker 2: So yeah, And here's the nice thing is that they
- 34:25Speaker 2: could totally. Well, first of all, you would expect a
- 34:28Speaker 2: Doctor Doom to be pulled into the MCU at some point,
- 34:31Speaker 2: because we are getting a Fantastic Four movie and that
- 34:34Speaker 2: Doctor Doom is traditionally their biggest villain that they face
- 34:39Speaker 2: off against. But also like Doctor Doom would not be
- 34:43Speaker 2: a bad shout if you wanted to either segue away
- 34:49Speaker 2: from Kang or just have something to supplement Kang so
- 34:53Speaker 2: that it takes a little of the sting out. Because
- 34:55Speaker 2: my guess is they're going to just do a full
- 34:57Speaker 2: recasting and that's and Kang is still going to be
- 35:00Speaker 2: the big bad for the end of this phase or
- 35:02Speaker 2: the end of these phases, because otherwise they have to
- 35:06Speaker 2: completely go back to the drawing board.
- 35:09Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard recasting rumors. I hope that either in
- 35:15Speaker 1: Deadpool or the new Fantastic Four movie, doctor Doom has
- 35:20Speaker 1: a malfunction with the speaker function of his mask, so
- 35:23Speaker 1: he sounds like doctor Doom and the Roger Korman Fantastic Four,
- 35:27Speaker 1: which will forever be the best version.
- 35:29Speaker 2: Of four, which is story. If you thought Bain was
- 35:32Speaker 2: difficult to understand, you haven't seen anything, because he really is.
- 35:39Speaker 2: It does sound like someone speaking into a tin can
- 35:42Speaker 2: if you watch that Roger Corman produced Fantastic Four movie.
- 35:46Speaker 2: And I agree, Ariel, that's genuinely an entertaining film. I'm
- 35:50Speaker 2: not even saying ironically entertaining, because they were clearly so
- 35:55Speaker 2: sincere with their approach that it is. It's really charming.
- 36:02Speaker 2: Like it's super low budget. You got to get past that.
- 36:06Speaker 2: The effects are not impressive.
- 36:09Speaker 1: And there's a lot of tonal changes, but it's fun.
- 36:12Speaker 2: It's a fun movie. Like when I first watched it,
- 36:15Speaker 2: I was like, this is better than the Fantastic Four
- 36:19Speaker 2: films that were coming, like the one that Chris Evans
- 36:21Speaker 2: was in, for example, I was like, this is better
- 36:23Speaker 2: than that. Yeah.
- 36:25Speaker 1: Yeah, I quite enjoyed it, and not only because half
- 36:28Speaker 1: the time I felt like they were about to break
- 36:29Speaker 1: into song even though they didn't.
- 36:31Speaker 2: Yeah, it did feel like it had the musical energy, right.
- 36:35Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, But I'm very excited for this new phase
- 36:41Speaker 1: of Marvel. Like, well done, Marvel. Now I'm excited again.
- 36:45Speaker 1: Speaking of I don't remember if I said this in
- 36:47Speaker 1: last week's episode. At one point in time, I thought
- 36:52Speaker 1: that the actress who plays Kamala Kon was in driving Dolls.
- 36:55Speaker 1: That's not actually the case. It's an actress from Miracle Workers.
- 36:59Speaker 1: So if I that on the episode, I apologize profusely
- 37:02Speaker 1: for confusing them. They have similar eyebrows.
- 37:06Speaker 2: But next up, So we got tons of teasers for
- 37:11Speaker 2: trailers during the Super superb Owl, and the next one
- 37:16Speaker 2: was I put it in our notes as trailer of
- 37:18Speaker 2: the Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes of the
- 37:21Speaker 2: of the because there's just so many of us but
- 37:23Speaker 2: no Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. We got
- 37:25Speaker 2: a trailer for it. And you know what, Ariel, this
- 37:29Speaker 2: is a series that I've just let slip that I
- 37:31Speaker 2: have not watched, even though I've heard lots of folks
- 37:35Speaker 2: that I really trust and I often agree with, talk
- 37:37Speaker 2: about how compelling and exciting these movies are, and seeing
- 37:41Speaker 2: this trailer, I was thinking, Man, it might be time
- 37:45Speaker 2: for me to finally like go back and start watching
- 37:47Speaker 2: these movies, because this trailer looked really good. Yeah.
- 37:52Speaker 1: First of all, I want to say, even though obviously
- 37:55Speaker 1: the quality of these movies has improved, when I look
- 37:58Speaker 1: at the new overarching path of these Planet of the
- 38:03Speaker 1: Ape movies, I feel like I'm watching the same characters throughout,
- 38:07Speaker 1: So from the first one to this one, I don't
- 38:12Speaker 1: inside my heart, I don't feel like a tonal visual shift,
- 38:15Speaker 1: which is really cool. Even though obviously the graphics have
- 38:17Speaker 1: gotten better. In the CGI, I agree the story looks cool.
- 38:22Speaker 1: I'm very excited for this Witcher crossover. One of the
- 38:28Speaker 1: main human characters is Siri.
- 38:30Speaker 2: From the Witcher.
- 38:32Speaker 1: But even in the like the like the articles in
- 38:36Speaker 1: the log line I've seen for this trailer, they're like,
- 38:38Speaker 1: the director has breathed new life into this franchise, And
- 38:40Speaker 1: you're right, it feels really good. Also, wasn't this story
- 38:43Speaker 1: done way way way back, long ago?
- 38:47Speaker 2: Well, I mean, this feels like it's finally catching up
- 38:51Speaker 2: to the Planet of the Apes classic films, right, because
- 38:55Speaker 2: the Planet of the Apes films we've received so far
- 38:59Speaker 2: were really about how we get to a point like
- 39:03Speaker 2: how did that? How did the series of events happen
- 39:07Speaker 2: that would lead to a planet where apes are the
- 39:09Speaker 2: dominant species and humans have been reduced to being essentially
- 39:15Speaker 2: from the Stone Age, And so the the movies we've
- 39:19Speaker 2: seen so far were largely about the ascension of the
- 39:23Speaker 2: apes and the gradual decline of humanity. And this is
- 39:26Speaker 2: starting to feel like it's almost set the stage for
- 39:30Speaker 2: what would happen from those classic films where we have
- 39:33Speaker 2: astronauts coming back to Earth and realizing that something very
- 39:38Speaker 2: weird has happened.
- 39:40Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Now I'm very excited about this. I think
- 39:43Speaker 1: I'm going to have to pick up the films I
- 39:44Speaker 1: did watch the very first Planet of the Apes, and
- 39:46Speaker 1: I liked it. Of the new series, the.
- 39:50Speaker 2: One with Gollum in it, Andy serkis thank.
- 39:54Speaker 1: You, it's the It's I had a cold this week
- 39:59Speaker 1: and even though im feeling much better, like I'm still
- 40:02Speaker 1: turning to all the synapses back on.
- 40:03Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean, we all know you're a blonde
- 40:05Speaker 2: at heart, So that's true. It was a terrible joke.
- 40:09Speaker 2: I have to deeply apologize for making a terrible stereotypical joke.
- 40:14Speaker 2: I don't actually believe that, and I sincerely apologize it
- 40:18Speaker 2: was a dumb one.
- 40:20Speaker 1: Look, I'm people also stereotype me as a redhead, even
- 40:24Speaker 1: though it's you know, not what comes out of my
- 40:27Speaker 1: head naturally. Don't tell anybody. But speaking of blondes, we
- 40:34Speaker 1: also got a trailer for Wicked.
- 40:35Speaker 2: That's true, and that show has a blonde joke right
- 40:39Speaker 2: in the middle of a song, right at the beginning
- 40:41Speaker 2: of a song, and it's a it's an undeniable blonde joke. Yeah,
- 40:46Speaker 2: we got the Trailer's what seemed weird to me, Ariel
- 40:51Speaker 2: is that having seen the stage show, knowing that this
- 40:54Speaker 2: movie is actually a pair of films and that the
- 40:57Speaker 2: story has been broken into two halves. There was an
- 41:01Speaker 2: awful lot of imagery that I saw in this trailer
- 41:04Speaker 2: that seemed to me like it would most likely belong
- 41:08Speaker 2: in the second half of the story, not the first half,
- 41:12Speaker 2: which made me wonder, why is it in this trailer
- 41:15Speaker 2: unless they've decided to go with kind of a non
- 41:17Speaker 2: linear storytelling where they're going to be jumping around in
- 41:21Speaker 2: the timeline, I don't know.
- 41:23Speaker 1: Interesting. So I'm gonna be completely frank. I've never actually
- 41:27Speaker 1: seen Wicked. I've listened to the musical. I did see
- 41:30Speaker 1: one TikTok reviewer who hasn't seen it yet obviously just
- 41:33Speaker 1: watched the trailer talk about how they hoped that it
- 41:40Speaker 1: wasn't going to be the first half in the first
- 41:41Speaker 1: movie in the second half in the second movie, because
- 41:43Speaker 1: the second half of the musical is a slog you
- 41:47Speaker 1: sit through it is because you just got through defying gravity.
- 41:49Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely doesn't have like the energy of the
- 41:53Speaker 2: first half, like all the big energy numbers are in
- 41:55Speaker 2: the first half, and the second half is it is
- 41:59Speaker 2: much dark, but it isn't like it it's not as fun.
- 42:03Speaker 2: So yeah, it would be kind of like, well, you
- 42:06Speaker 2: got all your fun moments in your first film, so
- 42:10Speaker 2: come watch the really agonizingly slow second film. I mean,
- 42:15Speaker 2: we've also both talked about how we don't understand how
- 42:19Speaker 2: there's enough material there to do two films. I guess
- 42:24Speaker 2: you could argue if you were adapting the original novel,
- 42:28Speaker 2: maybe there's two films worth of story there. But this
- 42:32Speaker 2: isn't the original novel. This is adapting the musical. Maybe
- 42:35Speaker 2: they bring in some elements that are in the novel,
- 42:37Speaker 2: but they can't do too much because I'll tell you,
- 42:40Speaker 2: the novel and the musical totally different, both in the
- 42:44Speaker 2: storyline and in the tone.
- 42:47Speaker 1: Well look, if as people know, I am soon going
- 42:50Speaker 1: to go watch rosenkres Gildon standard did in Canada, and
- 42:55Speaker 1: that is an almost three hour play with two intermissions,
- 43:02Speaker 1: and they made that into one movie. So if that
- 43:06Speaker 1: can be made one movie.
- 43:07Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think. But then they made The Hobbit,
- 43:11Speaker 2: a story that you could read over the course of
- 43:13Speaker 2: a couple of nights, into three films, two of which
- 43:17Speaker 2: I saw on your birthday. So sorry, so sorry, neither
- 43:24Speaker 2: did I neither did I? We we would for Ariel's
- 43:27Speaker 2: birthday twice to go see The Hobbit two different years,
- 43:32Speaker 2: and and and it was so the second one was
- 43:36Speaker 2: so discouraging we didn't do it the third time. Yeah.
- 43:40Speaker 1: Well, look, it's just because Star Trek movies weren't coming
- 43:42Speaker 1: out on my birthday anymore. Because it was it was
- 43:46Speaker 1: the Lord of the Rings trilogy and Star Trek that
- 43:48Speaker 1: were coming out in December, which is great for me.
- 43:50Speaker 1: It was great for me. I loved it. It was
- 43:52Speaker 1: a great tradition, and then it fizzled. I'm also gonna
- 43:56Speaker 1: say for the casting of Wicked, I am sure everyone's
- 44:01Speaker 1: going to do a great job. They cast a lot
- 44:03Speaker 1: of really powerful singers and actors and comedians. I think
- 44:07Speaker 1: doing Jeff Goldbloom as the Wizard is inspired.
- 44:13Speaker 2: They've got a lot of performers from the West End
- 44:15Speaker 2: who are taking up some of the some of the
- 44:19Speaker 2: many of the roles.
- 44:21Speaker 1: Yeah. But and this is not saying that she won't
- 44:24Speaker 1: do a phenomenal job. What they showed me of Ariana
- 44:27Speaker 1: Grande as Glinda in the trailer does not make me
- 44:31Speaker 1: feel like she is embodying the Glinda that I know
- 44:33Speaker 1: exists in the musical. She looks so sweet and kind
- 44:40Speaker 1: in the trailers of what we see of her that
- 44:43Speaker 1: like maybe she's a ditsy, unknowing blonde. But she doesn't.
- 44:46Speaker 1: They don't show any.
- 44:47Speaker 2: Of that pep like the mean girl popular one, the
- 44:51Speaker 2: character who is really picking on Alphaba for like the
- 44:55Speaker 2: first forty minutes of the play.
- 44:58Speaker 1: She seems anti Heather.
- 45:00Speaker 2: Yeah, I was not blown away by what I saw
- 45:04Speaker 2: of Ariana Grande either. It didn't like I was giving
- 45:08Speaker 2: her the benefit of the doubt because I know she's
- 45:10Speaker 2: wanted to play this role forever. She even incorporated some
- 45:15Speaker 2: of the song Popular into one of her songs that
- 45:17Speaker 2: she did with Mika, you know, the one who did
- 45:20Speaker 2: the you know I Could Be Brown, I Could be
- 45:23Speaker 2: Blue that whole you know, she does a song with
- 45:27Speaker 2: him where they incorporated some of Popular into it. So
- 45:30Speaker 2: I knew that she had this long standing love of
- 45:33Speaker 2: the musical and a desire to play the part. But again,
- 45:37Speaker 2: based on what I saw, I was not impressed. Now,
- 45:40Speaker 2: we should also remind ourselves and everybody else that a
- 45:44Speaker 2: performer's performance in a film is a collaborative effort, because
- 45:49Speaker 2: the director and the editor also play a big part
- 45:52Speaker 2: in what we end up seeing. So this isn't to
- 45:55Speaker 2: suggest that she's a bad performer. I know she's not
- 45:58Speaker 2: she's done. She's done tons of acting. Before she became
- 46:01Speaker 2: big as a singer, she was doing acting. So I
- 46:06Speaker 2: don't want to suggest that she couldn't do the part,
- 46:08Speaker 2: but I was not impressed with what I saw.
- 46:11Speaker 1: Yeah, and that isn't even saying that she isn't going
- 46:14Speaker 1: to do the part brilliantly. It's just the editing of
- 46:16Speaker 1: this first trailer, that's true. Now, she started on Nickelodeon
- 46:22Speaker 1: as like the comedic like the comedic best friend. After
- 46:28Speaker 1: I stopped watching that level of show. Yeah, so I
- 46:31Speaker 1: kind of missed her Nickelodeon face. I have gone back
- 46:33Speaker 1: and watched clips and she's very, very funny. But again
- 46:35Speaker 1: it seems more of like a sweet, genuine clueless funny,
- 46:40Speaker 1: which could work too. So this is not me. She
- 46:44Speaker 1: might do brilliantly. The first trailer just didn't show me.
- 46:47Speaker 2: That same something else we saw. This trailer really sucked
- 46:52Speaker 2: people up into the air. Yeah, we saw trailer for Twisters,
- 46:57Speaker 2: the sequel to the classic Helen Hunt vehicle Twister. Like
- 47:02Speaker 2: carry El Wes was in that movie. You know, there
- 47:04Speaker 2: were a lot of people who were you know, was
- 47:07Speaker 2: it Philip Phillip Seymour Hoffman. I think was in it too.
- 47:11Speaker 2: I haven't watched Twister in a very long time. It
- 47:13Speaker 2: has been years.
- 47:14Speaker 1: You remember, you remember a lot more than I. And
- 47:17Speaker 1: I saw Twister at a drive in with the original
- 47:20Speaker 1: Jamungie while a thunderstorm inconvertible, while a thunderstorm was brewing
- 47:25Speaker 1: in the background. Wow, so that's my memory of Twister.
- 47:30Speaker 2: Times you had like the four D experience, like like
- 47:32Speaker 2: you would get at an amusement.
- 47:34Speaker 1: Park, which I've also done the Twister ride at Universal,
- 47:38Speaker 1: which I have not done that. Yeah, so a couple
- 47:42Speaker 1: of times less scarier than it was at the drive in.
- 47:46Speaker 1: But I remember very little of the movie. I remember
- 47:48Speaker 1: someone tying themselves to a drainage pipe so they wouldn't
- 47:51Speaker 1: get sucked away. But it looks it looks like Twister.
- 47:57Speaker 2: I was gonna I was gonna say the same thing.
- 48:00Speaker 1: It looks like Twister, but with two.
- 48:02Speaker 2: Yeah, and with you know, obviously updated effects and stuff.
- 48:05Speaker 2: There appears to be a plot about potentially deploying a
- 48:11Speaker 2: technology that, if it works properly, could diffuse a tornado
- 48:16Speaker 2: so that it would disperse and no longer recavoc I
- 48:21Speaker 2: don't know if the tornadoes in this movie are going
- 48:24Speaker 2: to appear to be somewhat ch Yeah, because I was
- 48:29Speaker 2: getting that feeling in the trailer, right, like not that
- 48:31Speaker 2: they were going to be called out as sentient, but
- 48:35Speaker 2: because of the behavior of the storm that you start
- 48:39Speaker 2: to question, like, well, how would this work unless the
- 48:41Speaker 2: storm was actively going after someone Allah the day after
- 48:45Speaker 2: Tomorrow where you had the cold front chasing people down
- 48:49Speaker 2: roadways and stuff like. It was starting to feel like
- 48:52Speaker 2: there was a little anthropomorphism going on in the trailer
- 48:56Speaker 2: to me. But again, I could be reading way too
- 49:01Speaker 2: much into this.
- 49:03Speaker 1: I'll have to ask my niece, who is very wants
- 49:05Speaker 1: to be a meteorologist, if she's and recently took training
- 49:08Speaker 1: to be a storm tracker, like for the National Weather Service.
- 49:13Speaker 1: You can you can be like a you can be
- 49:14Speaker 1: like it on the ground citizens storm reporter. You see
- 49:17Speaker 1: something bruined, like if that's something like it could it
- 49:22Speaker 1: could just be completely coincidental.
- 49:26Speaker 2: Sure, but if it keeps happening throughout the movie, then
- 49:28Speaker 2: you start to question things. Right. But anyway, the it
- 49:32Speaker 2: does like it feels to me kind of like a
- 49:36Speaker 2: film that belongs in the nineties, Like it has a
- 49:40Speaker 2: lot of the elements I would associate with disaster movies
- 49:44Speaker 2: that came out in the nineteen nineties, just like you know,
- 49:47Speaker 2: Roadhouse would get in the reboot of Roadhouse and you're like,
- 49:50Speaker 2: and you're thinking, is this just another mark of nostalgia
- 49:54Speaker 2: where you start looking at properties that broke through like
- 49:58Speaker 2: thirty years ago, and now we're going to do them again,
- 50:01Speaker 2: but with maybe hopefully a better script and improved special effects. Yeah.
- 50:08Speaker 1: I mean, Lisa Frankenstein is well, it's an original story,
- 50:12Speaker 1: but it's based off of like the eighties stuff. Yeah,
- 50:16Speaker 1: I wonder we don't need we don't need a bunch
- 50:19Speaker 1: of that, But I understand why people want to refresh
- 50:21Speaker 1: properties for newer audiences. I do think that the Twister
- 50:26Speaker 1: franchise really missed the mark when they didn't call this
- 50:29Speaker 1: new movie Twisted Sisters. Yeah, Twisters.
- 50:34Speaker 2: I guess they're not gonna take it anymore. And what
- 50:39Speaker 2: we're gonna take next is another trailer, and this one
- 50:43Speaker 2: is turning the damsel in distress a metaphor on its head,
- 50:48Speaker 2: and it's called Damsel, Yes, and.
- 50:52Speaker 1: It we've talked about it before, but there's a new
- 50:54Speaker 1: trailer that just shows a little bit more of Bobby
- 51:00Speaker 1: Brown being super badass.
- 51:02Speaker 2: Yeah, well while trying desperately to avoid turning into a
- 51:06Speaker 2: shish kebab.
- 51:08Speaker 1: Yeah. So, if you didn't hear us talk about it before,
- 51:11Speaker 1: it's a Netflix movie that's coming out very soon about
- 51:15Speaker 1: this girl who it looks like from the second trailer.
- 51:19Speaker 1: Her father betrothed her to a prince because the village
- 51:22Speaker 1: or the family needs it or whatnot. And she goes
- 51:24Speaker 1: to marry the prince and they get her all ready
- 51:25Speaker 1: and they're like, we're gonna do this marriage ritual and
- 51:28Speaker 1: they throw her into a pit which contains a dragon
- 51:31Speaker 1: that they've done every so often to princesses to maintain
- 51:34Speaker 1: the safety of their village, which is not a new trope.
- 51:37Speaker 2: Right, there's right. Yeah, this is the plot to a
- 51:41Speaker 2: nineteen eighties era fantasy film called Dragon Slayer, where the
- 51:45Speaker 2: story is that they hold a lottery every year and
- 51:49Speaker 2: the person whose name is drawn from the lottery is
- 51:51Speaker 2: chosen as a sacrifice in order to appease a dragon
- 51:56Speaker 2: to not destroy their village a year after years. So
- 52:00Speaker 2: there's stuff in here that does harken back to other stories,
- 52:04Speaker 2: but obviously the big difference here is that the woman
- 52:10Speaker 2: chosen to be the victim ends up turning the tables
- 52:14Speaker 2: and is not going to go quietly and is not
- 52:19Speaker 2: going to take it lightly. Like she feels very strongly
- 52:24Speaker 2: that the people who decided to sacrifice her should be
- 52:27Speaker 2: held accountable for their decision. Yeah.
- 52:30Speaker 1: I was chatting with my husband about it, and he
- 52:32Speaker 1: was feeling like the trailer and maybe it's because pardon me,
- 52:36Speaker 1: there's not enough time in a trailer, but that the
- 52:38Speaker 1: trailer didn't show enough of her, like starting off as
- 52:41Speaker 1: maybe a more naive person. I'm like, she may not
- 52:43Speaker 1: have been. She might have been like the Bell character
- 52:46Speaker 1: of the village and the dad's like, no, you have
- 52:47Speaker 1: to marry this prince. We need it, you know. So
- 52:50Speaker 1: she might have already been street smart and just doing
- 52:53Speaker 1: what she was supposed to. But I guess we'll see.
- 52:55Speaker 2: Yeah we don't. Yeah, the trailer doesn't show us all that,
- 52:58Speaker 2: but then that's not the trailer's job. I think I
- 53:01Speaker 2: think it looks like it could be a fairly entertaining film.
- 53:06Speaker 2: I mean, even if it's treading ground that we've seen before,
- 53:09Speaker 2: especially if you're old like me and you've been around
- 53:11Speaker 2: long enough to watch movies like Dragonslayer, which I did
- 53:14Speaker 2: again just like two years Ago. Then maybe then you'll
- 53:20Speaker 2: kind of roll your eyes a little bit. But I
- 53:22Speaker 2: think it looks like it's well made, and I'm always
- 53:26Speaker 2: in favor of fantasy films that aren't necessarily a spin
- 53:30Speaker 2: off of Game of Thrones.
- 53:33Speaker 1: So you don't think that this is a sequel to
- 53:36Speaker 1: Princess Bride where Princess Buttercup has now grown up to
- 53:39Speaker 1: be the evil Queen.
- 53:41Speaker 2: I mean, even though it may be played by the
- 53:43Speaker 2: same actress, I hope that's not the case, because if
- 53:47Speaker 2: it is the case, then I do expect a nearly
- 53:49Speaker 2: dead ancient woman to show up and go boo boo,
- 53:54Speaker 2: you threw her ride that pit.
- 53:57Speaker 1: Although you say that isn't a spinoff of Game of Thrones,
- 54:00Speaker 1: there is a moment in the trailer where Robin Wright
- 54:02Speaker 1: as the evil Queen says you know nothing, yeah, and
- 54:05Speaker 1: she goes on to a different sentence. But I expected
- 54:08Speaker 1: her to say, John, yeah.
- 54:10Speaker 2: Well something that I don't know if you even watched it, ariel,
- 54:14Speaker 2: because I warned, okay, I warned you about it before
- 54:16Speaker 2: we we went. I saw a trailer for a Sasquatch Sunset,
- 54:21Speaker 2: which is it feels almost like a Wes Anderson film
- 54:24Speaker 2: about a group of bigfoot like a family of bigfoots,
- 54:30Speaker 2: big feats. But yeah, it's a it's a comedy, but
- 54:34Speaker 2: it's a raunchy comedy somewhat about these sasquatches. And I've
- 54:40Speaker 2: only wanted to put it in here because I was like, Wow,
- 54:42Speaker 2: this is unusual and it has to do with sasquatch
- 54:45Speaker 2: and cryptids can be a source of interest for among
- 54:48Speaker 2: the geek community. I don't believe in them, but lots
- 54:52Speaker 2: of other people do. But this looks like it's kind
- 54:55Speaker 2: of like a weird slice of life sort of comedy
- 54:59Speaker 2: feet turing these sasquatches as they are going through their lives.
- 55:05Speaker 2: And again, it does have a sort of Wes Anderson
- 55:08Speaker 2: sort of feel to it, although there is a very
- 55:12Speaker 2: raunchy joke very early on in the trailer that it's
- 55:17Speaker 2: one of those moments where like a narrator is speaking
- 55:19Speaker 2: a somber and deep thing and then suddenly it cuts
- 55:22Speaker 2: to two sasquatches attempting to make a third sasquatch. If
- 55:26Speaker 2: you get my drift, yes.
- 55:27Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, which honestly I expected it to be. I
- 55:31Speaker 1: felt it was an unnecessary joke. I understand why it
- 55:34Speaker 1: was there, but also it wasn't as bad as I
- 55:36Speaker 1: was anticipating, So yeah.
- 55:38Speaker 2: I only put it in there because I was just like,
- 55:40Speaker 2: I don't know this tone is. It immediately struck a
- 55:44Speaker 2: bad chord with me because it's not the kind of
- 55:47Speaker 2: thing I respond to, like, oh hah, funny, that's a
- 55:51Speaker 2: really funny gag that you did where you subverted expectations
- 55:55Speaker 2: by a quickly segueing from this sort of poetic experation
- 56:00Speaker 2: to a very non poetic moment. But it just reminded
- 56:06Speaker 2: me of like raunchy comedies from the early two thousands
- 56:09Speaker 2: that I never wanted to see. But the rest of
- 56:12Speaker 2: it felt more kind of wistful to me.
- 56:16Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and it's also got a large cast of
- 56:20Speaker 1: very good actors who are not unrecognizable.
- 56:23Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, I couldn't tell who any of them were
- 56:27Speaker 2: until like who Riley was. Yeah, and when they when
- 56:31Speaker 2: they announced it, You're just like, I mean, maybe it
- 56:34Speaker 2: could also be someone else and I would never know.
- 56:37Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, there's like one person who is like, okay,
- 56:40Speaker 1: I can see it, but there are other people like no, no,
- 56:43Speaker 1: that's that's the guy from the the Guico commercials.
- 56:47Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, Well, we got tons of more
- 56:50Speaker 2: stuff to get through because so many trailers. Let's talk
- 56:53Speaker 2: about the very short but new Showgun trailer. I watched
- 56:57Speaker 2: it thought it looked good, like as in very well made,
- 57:02Speaker 2: Like you could tell a lot of money was spent
- 57:04Speaker 2: making this thing.
- 57:06Speaker 1: Yes, did it make you fearful? Of the things we
- 57:09Speaker 1: talked about last week about it being a white savior story.
- 57:12Speaker 2: There was only one shot I saw that seemed to
- 57:14Speaker 2: actually have the white character in it as far as
- 57:18Speaker 2: I could tell, So I would say this didn't. This
- 57:22Speaker 2: didn't increase my fears or anything. It didn't assuage them either,
- 57:26Speaker 2: because it's such a short trailer that I don't even
- 57:28Speaker 2: really have an appreciation of what I saw, apart from
- 57:31Speaker 2: I mean I expected to see some sort of vaguely
- 57:35Speaker 2: medieval Japanese military action.
- 57:40Speaker 1: Yeah, I am surprised that I am the most excited
- 57:43Speaker 1: person about this show in my household, but I am so.
- 57:47Speaker 1: I will definitely watch it, and if you don't, I
- 57:49Speaker 1: will give you reviews on it.
- 57:50Speaker 2: Awesome. I appreciate that. So moving on, because we've got
- 57:54Speaker 2: so many of these trailers, we're still got like we'll
- 57:57Speaker 2: pick it up. Yeah, we got like a dozen or
- 57:59Speaker 2: so to get through Godzilla x. Kong. We got a
- 58:03Speaker 2: new trailer for that. Ariel, you are the person on
- 58:07Speaker 2: this podcast who absolutely loves monster movies. What was your
- 58:11Speaker 2: take on this trailer?
- 58:14Speaker 1: So very very initially, I was like, why is this
- 58:18Speaker 1: coming out? Because it's Godzilla minus one had such brilliant reviews.
- 58:23Speaker 1: Why is why?
- 58:24Speaker 2: Why?
- 58:26Speaker 1: But it is completely different. It's a different world. It's
- 58:28Speaker 1: not in the same thing. The Godzilla versus Kong was
- 58:35Speaker 1: so dumb. It was fun. They were fun moments. I
- 58:38Speaker 1: loved seeing fighter jets being thrown like darts, but it
- 58:41Speaker 1: was a dumb movie. This one feels equally kind of dumb.
- 58:48Speaker 1: But I'm also like vaguely into it. I do like
- 58:53Speaker 1: the concept of this, this deaf girl being able to
- 58:56Speaker 1: communicate with Kong. I think that's great. She was great
- 58:58Speaker 1: in the last movie She's I'm sure she's gonna be
- 59:00Speaker 1: wonderful in this movie. The fact that they give him
- 59:02Speaker 1: like a mecha.
- 59:03Speaker 2: Fist, yeah, he becomes cyber Kong.
- 59:07Speaker 1: He becomes Cybercok is ridiculous. I I worry about there
- 59:13Speaker 1: being some like Son of Kong tropes in there, because
- 59:15Speaker 1: they show young young like apes and stuff, But this
- 59:19Speaker 1: does because this movie features Godzilla and King Kong fighting
- 59:23Speaker 1: together against the evil and it also has Dan Stevens,
- 59:26Speaker 1: who I love from Downton Abbey and Legion and a
- 59:31Speaker 1: bunch of other stuff. It leads me to hope that
- 59:35Speaker 1: the next one will be a lethal weapons style Godzilla
- 59:40Speaker 1: Kong buddy cop movie.
- 59:43Speaker 2: I watched this and I thought, this looks like a
- 59:45Speaker 2: chaotic mess and I'm not gonna see.
- 59:47Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, I will probably watch it at home.
- 59:52Speaker 2: I mean, this feels like if it's if you're gonna
- 59:54Speaker 2: watch it, it feels like you kind of should go
- 59:56Speaker 2: to the theater because it's a big spectacle movie. But
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: I'm not a fan of spectacle anymore. Like I need
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: more than spectacle to bring me to the theater. Like
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: I get people who say, oh, it's incredible filmmaking, like
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: it's so it's so in your face or whatever. They'd
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: make such good use of it. But for me, I
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: need a really good story. I don't care about the spectacles.
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: I mean, the spectacle might be like I was impressed,
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: but I'm not going to talk about it later. It
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: just doesn't. It doesn't stick with me.
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: You didn't watch Pacific Grim either, did you?
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: I actually tried to. I literally tried to because I
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: noticed that was on one of the streaming services. I
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: can't remember which one, but I was going through and
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: I started watching it, and I got maybe half an
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: hour into it. I got to the point where the
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: young woman is chosen to be his partner and then
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: is summarily chosen to not be his partner, and then
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: I turned it off and I did not turn it
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: back on. So it didn't do much for.
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: Me, gotcha, Yeah, I mean that I enjoy it, but
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: Ron Pearlman and Charlie Day really were like the shining
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: bits of that movie.
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: To Charlie Day was the most entertaining part that I saw.
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: But it seems like a similar level of story. I
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: can get behind you, spectacle. I wish this story had
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: a little bit more for me to hold on to,
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: but maybe maybe it will.
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: And now, some horror movies, but they're not at the
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: end of the episode this time.
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: Yep, that's good.
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: I did group them all together, but it didn't put them.
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: At the and you sandwiched sandwiched. This is not me
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: giving you crap for this at all, but you did
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: sandwich the one that was most acceptable to me between
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: the other two that are like my severe x.
- 1:01:42Speaker 2: Well Ariel doesn't like apparently cannibalism or spiders, So no,
- 1:01:49Speaker 2: not first. Our first one is called Cold Meat, which
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: I said Cold Meat for all your Wind to Go
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: horror film needs, because it's a story that appears to
- 1:01:59Speaker 2: have like couple of people get caught in the middle
- 1:02:02Speaker 2: of like a frozen wasteland where they don't really they're driving,
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: and then they get run off a road and they're
- 1:02:09Speaker 2: not able to extract their car from the snow bank
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: they run into, and they're not able to like continuously
- 1:02:17Speaker 2: run the car, and meanwhile there's this incredibly cold storm
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: hitting outside. There's also some interpersonal drama moments. There's some
- 1:02:26Speaker 2: like violent people moments in there, and the narrator talks
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: about this whole legend of this spirit that drives someone
- 1:02:37Speaker 2: to consume someone else, which sounds very much like the
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: Wind to Go mythology. And I don't know, the trailer
- 1:02:45Speaker 2: looks it looks like it's an intense one. It does
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: fall into that genre of person is stuck in frozen
- 1:02:54Speaker 2: place without any real shelter. Like it reminds me of Gray,
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: it reminds me of Oh, there's a couple of these
- 1:03:04Speaker 2: that I've seen, and their names are escaping me. But
- 1:03:08Speaker 2: it falls into that kind of category. I don't know
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: if it's going to stand out, but the reviews that
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: they sit on the trailer Surprise Surprise, are really encouraging,
- 1:03:20Speaker 2: But then they're not likely to show ones of I
- 1:03:22Speaker 2: was bored to tears or it made me want to
- 1:03:25Speaker 2: eat my own foot off.
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: I'm glad there's not that one. But it did look
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: it did look well, made it look suspenseful, but.
- 1:03:34Speaker 2: It's not the one that was most acceptable to Ariel.
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: For that. We have to go to a movie that
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: is inspired by the Pied Piper of Hamlin.
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: Yeah, it's called The Piper, and it's about this. It's
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: about Julian Sand's being a crazy, evil composer and when
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: he passes, one of his students takes over his work
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: and finishes his musical score and when you play it,
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: you go mad.
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: Yeah. And so first off, rip to the late great
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: Julian Sands. He's the actor we lost last year. He
- 1:04:09Speaker 2: got lost while hiking. Very tragic into his life, but
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: he is someone you would recognize because he's been in
- 1:04:18Speaker 2: so many different movies. And when I saw him in
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: this trailer, I thought, oh oh, I didn't even know
- 1:04:26Speaker 2: there was another project that had him in it that
- 1:04:28Speaker 2: had not yet released here in the States. I thought
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: this trailer looked like it was trying real hard, but
- 1:04:37Speaker 2: it didn't do much for me, like I understand where
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: it's going from, like I can again, like you start
- 1:04:42Speaker 2: to if you watch enough horror movies, you start to
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: see kind of broad categories that horror movies can fall into,
- 1:04:49Speaker 2: like subcategories of horror. And this one feels like a
- 1:04:53Speaker 2: certain subcategory that I've seen a lot of, and very
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: few of those movies and that subcategory ever rise to
- 1:04:59Speaker 2: above mediocre. But maybe The Piper is one of the
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: ones that does it. We'll have to wait and see.
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: Yep, we'll have to wait and see something that only
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: Jonathan will wait to see. Is the movie stick?
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: Come on, this is like a horror comedy. You'd love it.
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: I tried to watch this trailer and the first time
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: they showed a spider on somebody, I went, I can't.
- 1:05:24Speaker 2: Oh wow, so you didn't get to see the part
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: where the spider crawls into a person's mouth. Oh ha,
- 1:05:31Speaker 2: it's a big one too, A big spider that has
- 1:05:33Speaker 2: not a big mouth. I mean, it's a sizable spider.
- 1:05:38Speaker 2: So this this is like a horror comedy, Like there's
- 1:05:41Speaker 2: definitely some comedic bits in the In the trailer, it
- 1:05:45Speaker 2: actually gave me a rachnophobia vibes, Like, do you remember
- 1:05:49Speaker 2: when we got like spider horror comedies for no reason?
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: We got a rack noophobia and we got eight legged
- 1:05:55Speaker 2: freaks like that was a thing for a while. Well,
- 1:05:58Speaker 2: this feels like it's again tapping back into that nostalgia stuff.
- 1:06:02Speaker 2: It feels like it's tapping into that. And while there's
- 1:06:05Speaker 2: no one who stood out as overtly comedic as the
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: John Goodman character in Iraq Noophobia, there did feel still
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: feel like there's some comedy when Sting. So the basic
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: premise is that a young girl ends up capturing a
- 1:06:21Speaker 2: spider and puts it in a jar and befriends it
- 1:06:24Speaker 2: and names it Sting and even teaches it not to whistle.
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: She whistles to it, and that it somehow is able
- 1:06:31Speaker 2: to vocalize and replicate the little tune. But then it
- 1:06:35Speaker 2: grows and then it gets out, and then your eight
- 1:06:39Speaker 2: legged terror ensues, And I don't know, I thought, I
- 1:06:45Speaker 2: like the trailer. I don't think it's going to be
- 1:06:47Speaker 2: a great movie, but I think it could be a
- 1:06:49Speaker 2: really entertaining movie if you are not totally creeped out
- 1:06:53Speaker 2: by spiders.
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: Have I shared why I'm totally creeped out by spiders
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: on this podcast? I feel like I have.
- 1:06:59Speaker 2: You might have. So. Ariel had to audition for a
- 1:07:03Speaker 2: movie and the casting director was a spider and was
- 1:07:06Speaker 2: really mean to her.
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: No, no, no. I used to work as a janitor
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: and I had to clean the like a spider web
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: out of a doorway and there was like an egg nest.
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: So I took the breastpam dustpam in the broom and
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: I squished it and it was I guess ready about
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: ready to hatch because it opened up in hundreds of
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: baby spiders crawled up my arm and the mom bit
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: me and took forever to heal, And it was just
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: I felt like I was covered in spiders for a while.
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: I had the same thing happened to me, but with scorpions.
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't like those either.
- 1:07:34Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, it was it shoe.
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: But but it does hit close to home because my
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: best friend my sister keeps jumping spiders, which are. They
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: can't bite you. They're not going to hurt you. Their
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: teeth are so small, right, I won't touch them. I
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: have learned to love them vicariously through her. I can
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: look at pictures of them without being freaked out. But
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: I'm not going to going to hold them and touch
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: them or whatever. But they will frequently catch jumping spiders
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: out in the wild, and so the story of a
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: girl catching a spider in the wild and then it
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: turning killer is could happen. It could happen to my friends.
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: I don't want that to happen.
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: John, Well, let's move on to something that definitely is
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: not going to happen, because neither of us know anyone
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: with superpowers. We also got a trailer for Invincible season two,
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: Part two. They broke the season into two halves with
- 1:08:24Speaker 2: a long hiatus in the middle, and the second half
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: is coming to us soon. And we got a trailer
- 1:08:31Speaker 2: where we got to see a little bit of a
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: hint of stuff that's coming up, including Omni Man being
- 1:08:36Speaker 2: held accountable by the Vitruvians for his failure to prepare
- 1:08:41Speaker 2: the Earth for conquest. You get to see some stuff
- 1:08:47Speaker 2: that's going on back at Earth with the superhero group
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: and we get to see what appears to be a
- 1:08:54Speaker 2: funeral for perhaps Invincible himself.
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: Yeah, which all of that sounds pretty grim. Honestly, this
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: trailer made it seem like the second half was going
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: to be happier than the first half.
- 1:09:05Speaker 2: Yeah, well, don't know why. We'll have to see because
- 1:09:07Speaker 2: I mean, it could just be they took the bits
- 1:09:09Speaker 2: that were the most comedic and left everything else out
- 1:09:12Speaker 2: for us to see. But uh, you know, we've both
- 1:09:15Speaker 2: been watching Invincible, We've both been keeping up with it,
- 1:09:18Speaker 2: so I'm still I'm very eager to see how season
- 1:09:21Speaker 2: two plays out. Like knowing the comic books a little bit,
- 1:09:24Speaker 2: I haven't read the comic books, but I read up
- 1:09:27Speaker 2: on them. There are elements of the story that was
- 1:09:30Speaker 2: told in the comic books that I'm very curious to
- 1:09:32Speaker 2: see if they are touched upon or if they play
- 1:09:36Speaker 2: out in the series.
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Something else I'm looking forward to seeing is
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: Disney's a limited Disney's limited series. I think it's a limited.
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: It is Awaji, Yes, I don't know, like because they
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: don't say it in the trailer, Like I was wondering,
- 1:09:54Speaker 2: I was trying to find the pronunciation it's it's a
- 1:09:58Speaker 2: Nigerian story. It's said it's set in a futuristic Nigeria
- 1:10:02Speaker 2: that's very reminiscent of Wakanda in the Marvel films. It's like,
- 1:10:06Speaker 2: you know, much more advanced technologies, and uh, yeah, it
- 1:10:11Speaker 2: looks like it's a it's a an adventure story that
- 1:10:14Speaker 2: mostly follows a young girl who gets wrapped up in
- 1:10:19Speaker 2: some some criminal shenanigans, only because this crime boss has
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: I think a deep interest in her father. Yeah.
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks really cute because it looks it looks
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: like it looks like Black Panther, but it also looks
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: more like Slice of Life, maybe a little bit parts
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: of it.
- 1:10:45Speaker 2: It's it also features a robotic lizard that is capable
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: of turning into like one of the ThunderCats.
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: Yeah, but also the lizard has interest in eating, so
- 1:10:57Speaker 1: maybe it's like a cyborg.
- 1:10:58Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it's a Yeah, it could be a same
- 1:11:00Speaker 2: board lizard. I think it looks cute. It's I like
- 1:11:04Speaker 2: that Disney is trying to tell different kinds of stories. Now,
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: they obviously had some mixed results with that, but I'm
- 1:11:15Speaker 2: glad to see them trying, even though I'm sure that
- 1:11:20Speaker 2: this comes from a very corporate decision making process, but
- 1:11:25Speaker 2: it's still the result is still good. I want to
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: see more stories about communities that typically don't get this
- 1:11:33Speaker 2: kind of treatment in mainstream media.
- 1:11:36Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, same. Something I didn't think I was going
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: to be excited for, but it turns out I'm very
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: excited for is the X Men ninety seven show.
- 1:11:49Speaker 2: Yes, this is a continuation of the animated series that
- 1:11:55Speaker 2: was on in the nineties, and we got a trailer
- 1:11:58Speaker 2: for the return of this, so it's it's you know,
- 1:12:02Speaker 2: it's not taking into account any of the X Men
- 1:12:04Speaker 2: stories from the films or anything. It's literally picking up
- 1:12:06Speaker 2: from the animated series that aired in the nineties, and
- 1:12:10Speaker 2: so we're getting, uh that series. We knew about this
- 1:12:13Speaker 2: because it had been announced already, but now that we've
- 1:12:15Speaker 2: seen the trailer, it really does feel like an updated
- 1:12:18Speaker 2: version of that style of animation.
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: Yeah, but it still has the charm enough so that
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: I still have a crush on Oh my god, I
- 1:12:30Speaker 1: was gonna just left my head Gambit. Yeah, Bit, I
- 1:12:35Speaker 1: have it. I have a crush on Gambit and I
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: loved Jubilee was my favorite, so I was very excited.
- 1:12:40Speaker 2: Yeah, both of them show up in the trailer.
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: Yes, it makes it makes me happy. Lastly, uh, kind
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: of Lastly, Xbox in Dune are doing some collaborations. So
- 1:12:53Speaker 1: we talked last week about how people are kind of
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: worried about Xbox being in some trouble, and they've done
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: some stuff to make people believe.
- 1:12:59Speaker 2: That everybody's worried about Dune because of the popcorn bucket
- 1:13:03Speaker 2: that I fight because of them that I finally saw,
- 1:13:06Speaker 2: and now I understand, and now you understand.
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: However, Microsoft is doing two things as a Dune collaboration.
- 1:13:14Speaker 1: One is there's a levitating Xbox controller, which I can
- 1:13:19Speaker 1: only imagine is going to get knocked off of people's
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: end tables by so many cats.
- 1:13:23Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's clearly using magnetic levitation in order to
- 1:13:28Speaker 2: have the Xbox sit on a little platform that hovers
- 1:13:33Speaker 2: above a base a pedestal. Very cool effect, Like it's
- 1:13:38Speaker 2: something that you like. It makes me think of stuff
- 1:13:40Speaker 2: you would see in like the Sharper image or whatever.
- 1:13:43Speaker 2: But it's that sort of thing. And they're running a
- 1:13:45Speaker 2: contest actually where you can win one, and I thought
- 1:13:48Speaker 2: about entering it until I saw that in order to
- 1:13:51Speaker 2: enter it, you have to go on Twitter and you
- 1:13:54Speaker 2: have to follow them and retweet something. And I'm like,
- 1:13:57Speaker 2: I quit Twitter ages ago because it turned into to
- 1:14:00Speaker 2: a really hateful place and I don't want to do that.
- 1:14:04Speaker 2: So I got out and I read the rules just
- 1:14:06Speaker 2: to see if there was an alternative way to enter.
- 1:14:08Speaker 2: As far as I could tell, there's not. Like, Nope,
- 1:14:10Speaker 2: I'm not doing the Twitter thing. Don't judge anyone who does.
- 1:14:13Speaker 2: If you want to do it, that's that's totally cool.
- 1:14:16Speaker 2: It's just I am not going do Yeah.
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: Yeah. The second bit of Dune Microsoft crossover is there's
- 1:14:24Speaker 1: a free expansion for Microsoft Flight Simulator, which I didn't
- 1:14:27Speaker 1: even know still existed. Yeah, where you can learn to
- 1:14:33Speaker 1: take off land in free fall in Pauly Tranty's ornithopter
- 1:14:37Speaker 1: from Dune, the like the dragonfly looking aircraft before.
- 1:14:43Speaker 2: Going on a bunch of missions, and that you're actually
- 1:14:45Speaker 2: flying over a simulated aracus. Yeah. So the Microsoft Flight
- 1:14:52Speaker 2: Simulator it has enjoyed a huge resurgence because Microsoft put
- 1:14:58Speaker 2: in so much work to make very realistic simulated models
- 1:15:02Speaker 2: of airports all around the world, so you can learn
- 1:15:06Speaker 2: how to fly different types of aircraft and actually take
- 1:15:10Speaker 2: legitimate flight routes between airports and in real time pilot
- 1:15:16Speaker 2: your craft. So if you wanted to do a flight
- 1:15:19Speaker 2: from Atlanta to Los Angeles, you could do that and
- 1:15:22Speaker 2: it would look a lot like what it would really
- 1:15:25Speaker 2: look like if you were flying it.
- 1:15:27Speaker 1: Yeah, but you definitely shouldn't get behind the wheel of
- 1:15:29Speaker 1: a plane after you do that because you can't account
- 1:15:32Speaker 1: for things like wind shear.
- 1:15:34Speaker 2: And I mean, they simulate it, but it's also you're
- 1:15:37Speaker 2: not feeling any of the turbulence when you're you're playing
- 1:15:40Speaker 2: a simulation. Also, you're likely, unless you've spent a lot
- 1:15:44Speaker 2: of money, you're likely not using the uh, you know,
- 1:15:47Speaker 2: realistic controllers and display systems that you would encounter in
- 1:15:51Speaker 2: an aircraft, so you're using, you know, obviously the simulated
- 1:15:56Speaker 2: versions of that. And anyway, I thought that they are racus.
- 1:16:01Speaker 2: Thing was really cool. It was a neat, neat sort
- 1:16:04Speaker 2: of a collaboration. Not something that I was expecting, and
- 1:16:08Speaker 2: I watched the video of it and it was it
- 1:16:10Speaker 2: was neat.
- 1:16:11Speaker 1: Yeah, I look forward to them adding more stuff like that.
- 1:16:15Speaker 1: That's about it that we have for now. We might
- 1:16:18Speaker 1: be taking another couple of weeks of breaks just due
- 1:16:20Speaker 1: to some travel that we're both doing. But if you're
- 1:16:24Speaker 1: wanting geeky stuff during that time if we aren't able
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: to do episodes those weeks, just giving you a heads
- 1:16:29Speaker 1: up for the next couple of weeks. I told you
- 1:16:32Speaker 1: guys earlier about my friend's game, Shadow City Mysteries A
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: Clockwork Noir that they're building. Well, now it's on Steam.
- 1:16:40Speaker 1: You can put it on your wish list and the
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: elevator pitch for it is. Shadow City Mysteries a Clockwork
- 1:16:46Speaker 1: Noir is a single player, third person narrative adventure game
- 1:16:48Speaker 1: that is Blade Runner by way of Lovecraft Country set
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: in Frank Millerson City with a new game plus twist.
- 1:16:55Speaker 1: It looks really cool. I know the people like I
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: personally know the people who are working on it. They
- 1:17:00Speaker 1: are freaking amazing at game theory, at game rules, at creativity.
- 1:17:04Speaker 1: I've larped with them, I tabletop with them. One of
- 1:17:08Speaker 1: them even wrote the class of character that Erykah played
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: on World Beyond Numbers like legit. I am super excited
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: about this game. I normally don't like promote stuff, but
- 1:17:19Speaker 1: put it on your wish list because it'll help them
- 1:17:20Speaker 1: If it sounds like something that is interesting to you,
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: so you can look into that.
- 1:17:25Speaker 2: While we're away cool.
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: Yeah, And if you want to reach out to us
- 1:17:31Speaker 1: to talk us, to us about any of the things
- 1:17:33Speaker 1: that we've talked about, or to share any fun geeky news,
- 1:17:36Speaker 1: you can do that. I will still be checking our
- 1:17:40Speaker 1: socials and email while I am traveling. Jonathan, how should
- 1:17:44Speaker 1: they reach out?
- 1:17:45Speaker 2: You got to throw a princess in a pit that
- 1:17:47Speaker 2: has a dragon in it, and then approximately twelve hours later,
- 1:17:52Speaker 2: I'll show up and ask you what you wanted to know,
- 1:17:54Speaker 2: and then I'm also going to show you a scrap
- 1:17:58Speaker 2: of singed dress and I'm going to look at you
- 1:18:01Speaker 2: with a lot of serious judgment in my eyes. But
- 1:18:04Speaker 2: it'll work.
- 1:18:05Speaker 1: It'll it'll work. But if if you want to avoid
- 1:18:08Speaker 1: the judgment and you don't want to sacrifice the princess,
- 1:18:11Speaker 1: you can reach out to us on Twitter x. We
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- 1:18:35Speaker 1: wait to come back and until next time. I have
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