Latest / Chatting with The Experts with Paula Okonneh / The Danger of Synthetic Skin Products
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- 0:04It is another episode of Chatting with the Experts where
- 0:07I speak with phenomenal women.
- 0:10These women are from Africa, from the Caribbean, and in the diaspora,
- 0:15and they share my mission, which is to educate women, to encourage
- 0:20women, and to empower women globally.
- 0:24I have a few men who join me, but for the most part it's women.
- 0:30Our episode today is called Healthy Skin At Every Age- A Physician's Guide to
- 0:37Natural Skincare, and my guest who will join me in a minute is a board certified
- 0:46physician specializing in Sports Medicine and Regenerative Aesthetic Medicine.
- 0:53She's also a health and wellness speaker, and she's the founder of Nature's Puree,
- 1:01a physician founded Natural Skincare line designed for the whole family.
- 1:09She explores natural skincare, healthy skincare at every age, and
- 1:14she's gonna share with us simple routines that women can use every day.
- 1:19And with that, I wanna welcome Dr. Christina Hector to the show.
- 1:30Welcome, Dr. Christina.
- 1:32Thank you.
- 1:32Thank you for having me.
- 1:34Absolutely.
- 1:36Absolutely.
- 1:36I know that I just gave a snippet of your bio.
- 1:40Maybe you can expand on anything that I may have omitted that
- 1:43you think is really relevant.
- 1:46It's up to you.
- 1:48I think you said it all.
- 1:49I'm a board certified physician.
- 1:51I specialize in non-surgical sports medicine, musculoskeletal injuries,
- 1:57and I do regenerative aesthetics for, you know, all skin types.
- 2:03I do like to focus on melanated skin types also and I started doing aesthetics
- 2:10because I felt like a lot of women they didn't know exactly what to do with some
- 2:16of the skin conditions that they have.
- 2:18Mm-hmm.
- 2:18So that's...
- 2:21That's really it.
- 2:24All right.
- 2:25Okay.
- 2:25Okay.
- 2:26Okay.
- 2:27So you said a lot of women did not know how to take care
- 2:32of the skin that they had.
- 2:34Mm-hmm.
- 2:35So, my journey started in medical school.
- 2:39Mm-hmm.
- 2:40At that time, I'll tell you the story.
- 2:42I had relaxed hair, so it was like chemically treated hair and you know,
- 2:47I was just, hair was falling out.
- 2:50It might have been, I was stressed from being in medical school and
- 2:53I went to hair justice after hair justice and nothing was changing.
- 2:58And I said, you know, maybe is the chemicals that I am using on my hair.
- 3:04So I decided to, stop using chemicals and go natural as they would say.
- 3:12And when I went natural, the next dilemma I had was I wanted to really go
- 3:18chemical free, but a lot of the haircare products had a lot of chemicals in them.
- 3:26And I searched and when I did find products that didn't have chemicals
- 3:31in them, they were really expensive for my medical school budget.
- 3:33So I really couldn't afford it at that time.
- 3:36And, you know, I might be aging myself, but back then it wasn't as many people
- 3:42making natural skincare products and now we're finding them in stores.
- 3:46But back then it was very few.
- 3:49So I was like, okay, you know, I'm in medical school, I'm smart,
- 3:52let me, you know, lemme see what I can whip up in the kitchen.
- 3:55So I started to make hair care products for myself and as I went through
- 4:01this journey of making hair care products and trying it and seeing like
- 4:04really good results with my hair, I said, you know, something, the same
- 4:11chemicals I'm trying to avoid using in my hair are inmy skincare products.
- 4:18Wow.
- 4:19You know, like when you pick up a bottle of skincare products and you
- 4:23look at the ingredients and you can't pronounce anything that's in them.
- 4:26So that's when I said, well, if I could make products for my hair, let's see
- 4:30if I can make products for my skin.
- 4:33You know, and the whole goal for me, was as I educated myself,
- 4:38I realized these products are dangerous for, you know, our health.
- 4:43So I started to make skincare products.
- 4:46Hmm.
- 4:47So you said being in medical school and being on a tight budget,
- 4:50you wanted to go natural with your hair, but that was smart.
- 4:54I mean, looking at the products of the skincare products and saying,
- 4:58Hmm, these are not healthy products.
- 5:00Being in medicine, you knew that it wasn't.
- 5:02Mm-hmm.
- 5:03And then you thought, what would be the benefits, right?
- 5:06Of natural skincare.
- 5:07We know what the, me, we know what the benefits are, but we be lay
- 5:11people, people who are not medicine sometimes don't know what the medical
- 5:15benefits of natural skincare are.
- 5:18Right, right.
- 5:20So tell me about that.
- 5:21You know, so when I say like natural skincare, you know, I, I tend to
- 5:26mean like using plant-based products.
- 5:30So a lot of these products are made in nature.
- 5:34So there'll be like the plant-based oils, avocado oil, olive oil, castor
- 5:40oil, the plant-based butters like the most common, the shea butters or coconut
- 5:44butters coconut oils, I should say.
- 5:47And so I'll give you an analogy.
- 5:50We eat vegetables, right?
- 5:52And we say the healthy part of eating vegetables, they have vitamins in
- 5:56them and they have antioxidants that fight against free radicals.
- 6:01And you know how rejuvenate ourselves, the same thing with the plant-based
- 6:06skincare products for our skin.
- 6:08They have vitamins that our skin can use.
- 6:11They're full of antioxidants that can help protect our skins from, you know, free
- 6:17radicals and from the sun, the UV light.
- 6:20So , if we think about eating vegetables and it's the same analogy of for our
- 6:26skin, all these benefits that we wanna take in are gonna benefit our skin.
- 6:35Makes sense.
- 6:36Mm-hmm.
- 6:36I recently had a guest who said, and she's a pharmacologist and she's also a
- 6:41trichologist, a certified psychologist.
- 6:43Mm-hmm.
- 6:44And she said, similar to you, if you can't eat it, don't put it on your head.
- 6:48You know?
- 6:49That's a good one.
- 6:51I thought that's interesting.
- 6:53Uh, yeah.
- 6:54And she is also, you know, pushing for, we need to look at the
- 6:58products, the plant-based products.
- 7:00And she uses a plant-based for the hair care products that she uses.
- 7:04Mm-hmm.
- 7:05It's plant-based.
- 7:06She's based in South Africa, but she's from Zimbabwe and South Africa
- 7:09and there's a product there, natural product that her people used way back.
- 7:14Mm-hmm.
- 7:15And she's like, that's what we need.
- 7:17And so that's how she created her own.
- 7:18So this is interesting because as you're saying, if all the natural... the
- 7:23minerals and the vitamins and everything that we get in food in plant-based food.
- 7:28We can use it for our skin because if we're ingesting it,
- 7:31then it could work for our skin.
- 7:32That's what I'm kind of hearing from you, right?
- 7:34Yes, definitely.
- 7:35Yes.
- 7:36The same nutritious parts of these plants for our inside our body is
- 7:42good for, because our skin is actually the biggest organ of our body.
- 7:47And I think, just really thinking about that, it does so much.
- 7:53It's the first line of defense against infection, microorganism.
- 8:00So, we really need to focus on, you know, what are we putting on our skin
- 8:04and what are we not putting on our skin?
- 8:09Oh, right.
- 8:09100%. You know, I think a lot of us are becoming more aware of that, that
- 8:13our skin is indeed the largest organ of our body because we didn't think
- 8:18about it in that way, it was just skin.
- 8:20Mm-hmm.
- 8:21You know, we'd be concerned about what we put in our mouth.
- 8:23Like what we put on our skin, what we put on our hair, and
- 8:27we looked at hair as just hair.
- 8:29You know what I mean?
- 8:30Right.
- 8:30It doesn't really matter because it's just your hair.
- 8:32You could cut it off, but it's more than that.
- 8:34Right?
- 8:35It comes from your skin.
- 8:36Yes.
- 8:37Yes,.
- 8:38Yes, yes, yes.
- 8:40So, we know that you started this skin skincare company and, now that you are
- 8:47really educating us, or we becoming more educated on, you know, what we
- 8:51need to do to be healthy overall?
- 8:53What would you say is like a good, simple, daily routine that we can do as women?
- 8:59Because most of us are putting stuff on our skin because
- 9:02it's advertised that is good.
- 9:05Mm-hmm.
- 9:05And we have our beauty, whether we wash our faces, well, most of us,
- 9:08we wash our faces at night before we go to bed and we wake up in the
- 9:10morning, we wash our faces again.
- 9:14And we, of course we shower.
- 9:16So what's a simple routine?
- 9:18So first I would start with, getting into the mindset of looking at the ingredients
- 9:23of the products that you're using, you know, and one, look for products that
- 9:29have more plant-based ingredients in them, or the non-harmful ingredients.
- 9:37There are some, you know, synthetic ingredients that are made.
- 9:40Based on their knowledge of plants that are not harmful.
- 9:44So that's the first thing because as we, as women, we age, you know, sometimes
- 9:51our skin gets a little bit thinner and we absorb more of what we put on our skin.
- 9:57So if you are putting something on your skin that has a lot of harmful
- 10:02synthetic products in it you're absorbing more of those harmful products.
- 10:07So the first step is let's really dive into you know, and be conscious.
- 10:13Just like we look at the food ingredients, look at the ingredients
- 10:16on our skincare products.
- 10:18I'm a simple person.
- 10:20I, you know, it's really, you gonna cleanse the skin.
- 10:25And I recommend a natural, gentle cleanser for the skin and cleansing
- 10:31the skin twice a day in the morning and of course, in the evening.
- 10:34'cause during the day, we're out and about and, you know, putting
- 10:37makeup on the breeze on our face.
- 10:39So you definitely wanna cleanse twice a day.
- 10:41You don't want the cleanser to be too harsh for the face.
- 10:44But definitely cleansing the face, moisturizing the face.
- 10:49So you want a good moisturizer for the face and then protection.
- 10:54Okay, now the sun is really bright.
- 10:57It doesn't matter if it's winter, if it's summer, you know, you do want to add
- 11:02a protection to the face, a sunscreen, minimal based sunscreen I would recommend
- 11:07as opposed to a chemical based sunscreen, because like I said, we're trying to stay
- 11:11away from harmful chemicals on the face.
- 11:14So that's really the basic every day routine.
- 11:20Now you wanna add, a little bit extra.
- 11:23Vitamin C is really good for the face.
- 11:26It has antioxidants in it, so that can help with brightening the face
- 11:31and help you know, repair the cells.
- 11:33So that is something that we can add to the face.
- 11:37And then some people use, like a retinol, which is vitamin A based.
- 11:43That can lighten some of the dark marks on the face.
- 11:47You know?
- 11:47So those are like the simple routine I would recommend.
- 11:51Mm-hmm.
- 11:52And another thing I recommend too is if someone feels like I am trying a lot
- 11:57of things and I feel like I'm having difficulties with whatever it may be.
- 12:01It could be adult acne.
- 12:02It could be rosacea.
- 12:04It could be hyperpigmentation of the face.
- 12:08You may wanna go to an aesthetician, a professional, you know, and have
- 12:12them do you know, a deep cleanse, deep exfoliation, and then really discuss
- 12:20with you what products you are using, and come out with a product plan that
- 12:26works for you in terms of the face.
- 12:29Now, for the body, it's the same thing.
- 12:30We wanna cleanse it, we wanna moisturize it.
- 12:33We wanna really pay attention to the ingredients, especially
- 12:37the soap that we're using.
- 12:39A lot of people, you know, we focus a lot on the moisturizer.
- 12:43But if you are using a soap that's full of synthetic ingredients and
- 12:50harmful ingredients, sometimes that can cross the itchy skin, the dry
- 12:53skin, the irritated skin and even the moisturizer that you using, it's
- 12:58just not healing the skin enough.
- 13:01So it just becomes this repetitive cycle.
- 13:03So, you know, definitely wanna cleanse with a plant based or,
- 13:08you know, soap moisturized um, you know, , and protect the skin.
- 13:16I'm gonna ask you this question.
- 13:18I noticed you emphasized plant-based, and I know I said I had a guest
- 13:22on the show who, for the hair, she uses plant-based products that was
- 13:26naturally occurring in South Africa and Zimbabwe, I think she said.
- 13:30Mm-hmm.
- 13:31But you talk now you mentioned plant based.
- 13:36I'm wondering why plant based and not... can we get like some animal based stuff?
- 13:43I know now people are into rightfully so, animal rights, you know?
- 13:47Mm-hmm.
- 13:48And not wanting to to use like oils from animal skins, but I'm just
- 13:55curious as to emphasis on plant-based.
- 13:59I think I focus more, my products are more plant-based.
- 14:02I am not, you know, I tell you when they really started to make
- 14:06soap, it wasn't necessarily, it was natural, but it wasn't plant-based.
- 14:11It was made with lard and tallow.
- 14:14And tallow is from a cow, and the lard is from the fat of the pig and the cow.
- 14:19And they use it in a chemical based formula and it turns into soap.
- 14:24And I think now people are starting to, you know, some soaps
- 14:26are based on tallow and lard and it's still considered natural.
- 14:32It's not a chemical base.
- 14:34But my products are plant-based, so I think that's why I say more plant-based
- 14:38'cause that's what I'm familiar with.
- 14:40Mm-hmm.
- 14:40But I feel like now we're seeing more tallow come back into the market and
- 14:48people are using tallow a little bit more, or, you're seeing it more on
- 14:51social media, the use of tallow, but use of tallow and lard has been here
- 14:55for years in terms of making soap.
- 14:58So.
- 15:00I think it's gonna be the preference of the person.
- 15:04Okay.
- 15:04Okay.
- 15:05But I think yes.
- 15:07Thanks for clearing that up.
- 15:08'cause that's something I was thinking about like, I know long ago or many
- 15:12years ago however long ago that was.
- 15:15Yes.
- 15:15They use animal fat, you know?
- 15:17Mm-hmm.
- 15:19So as a base for some of these soaps.
- 15:21Mm-hmm.
- 15:22That we used.
- 15:23Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 15:24That's so true.
- 15:25Yeah.
- 15:26I've been meaning to at least try a formula with a tallow.
- 15:29I haven't gotten to it yet, but I've been trying just to test it
- 15:31out and see, you know, how it works.
- 15:34Yeah.
- 15:35I love if you do, if you actually do that, let us know so that we probably can bring
- 15:40you on so you can now talk about, yeah.
- 15:43Aha.
- 15:43I did find out something, that the tallow works.
- 15:47Probably not better, but it's equally, you know.
- 15:49Mm-hmm.
- 15:49Does similar things to what you have right now.
- 15:54Mm-hmm.
- 15:54Which is so interesting.
- 15:56I know you also had, you talked about the skincare and natural skincare playbook.
- 16:04Yes.
- 16:05You wrote that, that's your book, right?
- 16:06That is my book.
- 16:08Mm-hmm.
- 16:08And I wrote it because, when I would go to vending events and
- 16:13talk about natural skincare.
- 16:16Sometimes people say, well, why should I pay this money for this?
- 16:20You know, why is I could get skincare from the store?
- 16:23Why is it important to even consider it?
- 16:26Mm-hmm.
- 16:26So I wanted to write a book, um, want to talk about.
- 16:31The journey of natural skincare, it's almost like a comeback.
- 16:34'cause skincare was natural, it was made at home.
- 16:37Mm-hmm.
- 16:38By family members and recipes were passed down and it was made to be very
- 16:43protective from the elements and the sun and, you know the bacterias and viruses.
- 16:48So that's really where skincare started.
- 16:52And then it became really commercialized and went to like mass production and
- 16:57then it went to making synthetic products to be able to do mass production.
- 17:02And then now when we are realizing that the synthetic ingredients are
- 17:08harmful in the sense that they can affect your reproductive system, they
- 17:11can affect your endocrine system.
- 17:15So now we're having that turned back to a natural form of, and
- 17:19very low, use of chemicals.
- 17:21So I wanted to really talk about, and explain to people the history and also
- 17:27talk about the science, you know, behind.
- 17:30Mm-hmm.
- 17:30The skin, the signs of skin, and how important our skin is to our survival
- 17:37and the science behind plants.
- 17:39And how the two together, work, you know.
- 17:43So, and a little bit about my journey, you know, from, you know.
- 17:48Starting an, you know, a natural skincare product, which I didn't plan to start.
- 17:52I just planned to pretty much, you know, help myself in terms
- 17:56of decreasing the amount of chemicals I'm putting on my skin.
- 18:00But then I realized I can help, you know, more people.
- 18:02So I did write a book, the Natural Skincare Playbook, Everything You
- 18:06Need to Know about Plant-based Beauty.
- 18:08It is on my website and it is on Amazon.
- 18:13And this book is for anybody who's one interested in changing their
- 18:19skincare products to more natural base.
- 18:22Someone maybe they're interested in making it to sell and they just want
- 18:27to get some feedback or just to learn about the history could give to anybody.
- 18:32Aunties, young people in general, I think they need to see this.
- 18:35'cause they, you know, a lot of advertising is going towards the
- 18:39young girls on skincare products and they're using products that,
- 18:44you know, starting now, it's going to damage their skin as they age.
- 18:49So even if you have a young, you know, teen or pre-teen, you know, for them
- 18:54to really understand, how to look for better skincare products and why.
- 18:59I think that that's the biggest thing.
- 19:00Why?
- 19:01And the science behind the why.
- 19:03There's been research done and I added into the book of, research done on
- 19:08these plant-based products and the benefits down to the, the cell level.
- 19:14So it's a good read.
- 19:16I'm sure it is.
- 19:18I'm sure it is.
- 19:19So, you've told us where we can find the book is that, it's
- 19:23on your website and on Amazon.
- 19:25So someone listening into this before we have the active or the
- 19:30guests who have joined the show...
- 19:31Mm-hmm.
- 19:31Before we have them ask questions.
- 19:33For someone who's listening to this post recording and wants to find out more
- 19:38about you get to, um, well, you've told us where we can get your playbook, but
- 19:43if you wanna find out more about you or connect with you, how can they find you?
- 19:48Well, you can connect with me on my website.
- 19:54Mm-hmm.
- 19:54My website is www.onyxaasm.com.
- 20:04Mm-hmm.
- 20:04And my skincare store is located on www.naturespuree.com.
- 20:13Okay.
- 20:14Are you on Instagram?
- 20:15Because a lot of the young people.
- 20:17Oh, of course.
- 20:18Are on Instagram.
- 20:19So on Instagram Nature's Puree, on Instagram, N-A-T-U-R-E-S-P-U-R-E-E.
- 20:29And Dr. Christina Hector spelled out on Instagram and Facebook.
- 20:35And Facebook too.
- 20:36Okay.
- 20:36And Facebook, do you, you have both the nature
- 20:39Nature's puree?
- 20:40Yes.
- 20:40Puree
- 20:41yes.
- 20:41Nature is puree and, and, yes.
- 20:44Gotcha.
- 20:45Oh, this is great.
- 20:46This is great.
- 20:47Well.
- 20:48Who hasn't learned from this, I've learned so much from Dr. Christina.
- 20:52And, what I would like to see to those of you listening in or viewing
- 20:56this on YouTube, if you'd like to be a guest, just like Dr. Christina has
- 21:00been, reach out to me on my website, which is chattingwiththeexperts.com.
- 21:05I'm also on LinkedIn, my business page there just look for Chatting
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- 21:14My business page and my profile there, Paula Okonneh.
- 21:18I'm also on Instagram and my handle there is at chat_experts_podcast, I am on
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- 21:51So many things they educate and empower and encourage women to do in their lives.
- 21:59Thank you so much, Dr. Christina Hector.
- 22:01Thank you for having me, Paula.
- 22:03It was great.
- 22:04Absolutely.
- 22:05And now let's open up the floor to those who joined us so that they can ask you.
- 22:09I always say the questions I haven't asked, I couldn't think of asking you.
- 22:13They will ask you for sure.
- 22:15Thanks.
- 22:16Thank you.