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- 0:01Did wasteland. We are the survivors of the alt right kick apocalypse, the
- 0:06few, the brave, the bitchy, once more wading into battle against the
- 0:11hmm, the horse, the horse hair, her horse hide, mongol hordes
- 0:17with rant Zerker number one eighty nine. Red pill women are trashy and childish.
- 0:25You know, I want to be offended, but she has a point.
- 0:29I think, you know, trashy and childish. I'll take it.
- 0:34At least we're not well. I guess we're also cunty too, Okay,
- 0:39Define red pill women. Yeah, that's that's a good question. Like,
- 0:43what what do you mean? Define your terms, madam, Define your terms.
- 0:48We can. I don't consider Pearl Pearl Davis to be trashy and childish.
- 0:56I I don't even consider Roma Army to be trashy and childish. Right,
- 1:06I don't consider most Suzanne Wenker, Helen Smith, Jenice Bia Mango right,
- 1:12Like, I don't consider any of them to be trashy or or childish.
- 1:19Maybe she's just directing it at us like I do have. I do
- 1:23have the sense of humor and musical taste of a fourteen year old boy,
- 1:26But I don't consider myself to be trashy or childish. I mean, my
- 1:36hat does look like a trash heap, but it's not because I'm trashy.
- 1:42I just don't really care. Like, honestly, this is trashy and childish,
- 1:47so okay, but what if we're right that trashy and childish but honest
- 1:53and correct. I mean, who gives a crap about trashy and childish?
- 1:57It's just yeah, no, I just like playground insult slinging. Well,
- 2:00I've got a salty tongue. I've always had a salty tongue. Right,
- 2:07F word, C word, you know, like those were even when I
- 2:10was writing dirty books for women. I was like, yeah, no language.
- 2:16I'm sorry, but the P word is anachronistic. Nobody was calling it
- 2:24that back in the fourteen hundreds, right, they were calling it the C
- 2:29word. Actually, back then it was the Q word q u e y
- 2:34nte. Yeah, this is just gonna be wall to wall vulva jokes.
- 2:38Friends. Yeah no, And I'm sorry, but you can you could just
- 2:45like you can get mad at me for my butt, well, you can
- 2:52lick my sweaty butt crack. If you don't like me to tell you that,
- 2:57I'll see you next Tuesday. M I don't even know what's gonna happen
- 3:02next Tuesday. See you. Oh oh oh it's freaking visual pun. Okay,
- 3:10no, all right, you know you're so lame, you're so old,
- 3:16and I'm older than you, and you didn't even know that you know?
- 3:21Yeah, No, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't get the
- 3:24reference until just now, when you've spelled it. Outs are not my fourteen
- 3:30ten years ago, I was working in a Tony romas and I had this
- 3:35fifty five year old veteran waitress. She was just like, she was awesome,
- 3:39She was wonderful, She could handle anything. She was so super energetic
- 3:45and had a sense of humor that really jibed with mine. She also had
- 3:50short hair like me, and so whenever someone would say, you know,
- 3:54oh, what's your name? Whenever customer would say what's your name? And
- 3:57I was like, it depends if you like the service. My name's Karen.
- 4:01If you didn't like it, I'm the tall, short haired blonde named
- 4:06Vanessa. But she used to sometimes when she had a really bad table,
- 4:15really obnoxious table, she'd be like, oh, see you next time,
- 4:21and then she'd elbow me in wink see you next time. Yeah, yeah,
- 4:30I was laughing. I was laughing. I was just muted, that's
- 4:32all. Okay. So I just want to remind everyone. I want to
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- 5:41out there. All right, let's get this started, because I imagine,
- 5:46I imagine this this, this will go one of two ways. It'll either
- 5:49be infuriating or hilarious. Oh no, it could or hilarious infuriating, or
- 5:57it could be insightful. You never know. I mean sometime yeah, maybe
- 6:00maybe maybe she's got some maybe she's got a finger on the pulse of the
- 6:04psychology of the average woman like us. Well, I just I just I
- 6:09just recall that there were lots of videos that I titled ironically where I'd have
- 6:15people dropping by, you know, look, look out, it's a nice
- 6:19guy, destroy him? Or men not marrying? How deep does the problem
- 6:25go? Or uh uh, just basically titles that were counterintuitive, attention grabbing,
- 6:40right, And I used to get drop in comments, like drive by
- 6:44comments from people who just read the title, looked at the thumbnail of this
- 6:49woman with like no makeup and short hair who looks like a lesbian separatist,
- 6:59and they'd just be like, yeah, it sucks and you're some stupid lesbo
- 7:04blah blah blah, right and uh and then someone would say, did you
- 7:12actually watch the video? Like you might want to watch the video before you
- 7:15comment. Yeah, sometimes they actually do and they're like, oh sorry,
- 7:20but ask always always always apologies from people who you know who got the wrong
- 7:28impression from the title in the thumbnail. Is this ironic? Brian? I
- 7:34wish it was. I wish it was. Okay, maybe I shouldn't have
- 7:41disillusioned her so early in the process. I'm going to have a nap now,
- 7:46you know. This is from a YouTuber called the Authentic Observer. I
- 7:54think she's the authentic observer. Authentic Observer said, maybe she has maybe she
- 8:03has her finger on the pulse of women like no, no, no,
- 8:07nobody, nobody who names themselves the authentic observer, the truth teller galore,
- 8:16you know, like, yeah, no, no, Like that is the
- 8:20ironic title, right, the title would they give themselves. She's not observant.
- 8:30She she will not have observed anything authentic and she will not be This
- 8:35is a prediction. That prediction is a prediction. You can't you can't say
- 8:39for sure because we haven't watched this yet. Okay, yeah, but we
- 8:43only have crazy. We need to know if you had told me before I
- 8:52made that suggestion that maybe it would be insightful. If you had told me
- 8:56her user name, I would be like, oh fuck, this is just
- 9:03gonna be fucking full of shit, because nobody with any amount of intellectual humility
- 9:13would name themselves the authentic observer. They might describe themselves as authentic. They
- 9:22might describe themselves that just means you mean what you say, right, and
- 9:31authenticity. Yeah, But and you might you might describe yourself as an observant,
- 9:39you know, in context, you know, I'm I'm just an observer.
- 9:45I'm just somebody who's observing what's going on, and I'm just somebody who
- 9:48speaks what's really on my mind. Right, And therefore, you would never
- 9:54name yourself. You would never give yourself that title if that's who you were,
- 10:00you know, be like, well, what kind of gigantic, fucking
- 10:03ego do I have to have you basically say not that I am an authentic
- 10:11observer, but the authentic observer, and not just that, like it's not
- 10:18just egotistical, it's also sort of moralizing, like I am the one who
- 10:24is right in the conversation and you are wrong. Uh well that that that,
- 10:30well we shall find out, and also is tasteless and what is it
- 10:33trashy or trashy and what was the other word that she use, childish?
- 10:39Childish? Are those those genuine observations? Are they just insults? Because what
- 10:45objection, what matters is integrity and honesty. Like, you can be as
- 10:50childish as you want, but if you're telling the truth and you have integrity,
- 10:54you know, well, go forth with all of your fart jokes.
- 10:58Yeah, all right, make them politically relevant. All right. So there's
- 11:05two sections of this that I think are probably the juwsiest cuts of meat.
- 11:11One this one which is called female competition disguised as concern for men. I
- 11:16think you guys would probably like like that. And then at the end there's
- 11:20a section called the red pill does not understand femininity? Now, okay,
- 11:26yeah, go ahead, go ahead. Well, I was just going to
- 11:30say, just based on that whole idea of female competition disguised as concern for
- 11:33men, does this person even allow does does she think that concern for men
- 11:41in any context is acceptable? I'm just putting that out there. I just
- 11:48would like, I'm going to watch this with that question in mind. Does
- 11:52this individual give any indication that she regards concern for men as extable acceptable in
- 11:56any context. Oh no, this is just this is just instead of saying,
- 12:01uh, red pill women are picknies. Yeah, it's it's the same
- 12:07thing. She just changing a little more academically. Yeah, she's calling it
- 12:13female instead of a pick me. But she's also saying that our concern Yeah,
- 12:22no, our concern for men is false because we're crying out pick me,
- 12:28pick me, Chad, pick me? Oh what the pickmy thing is?
- 12:35Most of the so called red pill women are already married. Yeah,
- 12:39I'm honestly, yeahnestly happy like Jesus Christ. Yeah, you want to be
- 12:48picked again? Right? We can't just be out there concerned about the legal
- 12:52realities that men face, including the men in our lives. We have to
- 12:56want to be picked multiple times. We're already picked and locked down. Friend,
- 13:01That's why. That's why I so yeah, Janice, I don't think
- 13:09Pearl is, but I think Roma is. She's in a relationship. Well
- 13:13yeah, but okay, look look at Pearl, look at you, right,
- 13:18look at me, look at Janice. Okay, Janice, I will
- 13:24grant you she is a snappy dresser, right, but she's not. She's
- 13:30not a sexy dresser. And she does do her hair, but that's because
- 13:35she's got a lion's main full of hair. Yeah, big big hair,
- 13:43angels angels hair, right hair, Yeah no, And so she didn't do
- 13:48it and turned into a sphere. If she didn't use product right, it
- 13:54would be out of control. Okay, that's why I buzz my head because
- 14:00that's what my hair would be like, right, Yea, Allison, When
- 14:03was the last time you brushed your hair? Do you even remember? No?
- 14:07I brushed my hair. Okay, look, I take care of my
- 14:11hair, but the problem was my hair has gotten a lot better because I
- 14:13figured out the issues that I had with it. Okay, anyway, every
- 14:18morning, but you've never really cared about your hair. When was the last
- 14:22time you wore makeup? Was it in the New York at The Red Pill?
- 14:28I don't think I was wearing much makeup there. I think maybe maybe
- 14:31I wasn't wearing much. You never wear much? Maybe some masscarro that's it?
- 14:37Yeah? That. No, I don't wear makeup very often. I
- 14:39don't wear much. Like. Yeah, I haven't worn makeup in since The
- 14:46Red Pill? Uh premiere, I have not put any makeup on at all.
- 14:56Right, I buzz my head. I wear pants. I wear them
- 15:01because they fit and they're long enough, not because they make my ass look
- 15:05great. I wear tank tops because they're comfortable, right, and they don't
- 15:13constrict my shoulders, and they cost fourteen dollars each, right, I don't.
- 15:18I wear comfortable shoes. Right. People mistake me for a lesbian for
- 15:22a reason. Okay, this is this is just an I'm sorry. If
- 15:31you think that I am in this, I can do one better. I've
- 15:37been mistaken for a man. Oh really, You've been mistaken for a man.
- 15:43In the liquor store the other day, I was wearing I was wearing.
- 15:46Admittedly, I was wearing a trench coat and was from behind, Okay,
- 15:48I was wearing a really short man. I was wearing a plaid hoodie
- 15:54okay, with the hood down. But that just means they're seeing my short
- 15:58hair. And I'm looking at the wine selection and she says, excuse me,
- 16:03sir, can I help you? And I turn around She's like,
- 16:07oh no, sorry, and I'm like, okay, wow, actually no,
- 16:11you got you got super common, super common. Yeah, people from
- 16:18behind from behind, if you're wearing a yeah, they see a short bite
- 16:23and broad shoulders and comfortable shoes and they assume man. Yeah. Well,
- 16:30I mean I was also like wearing a jacket that was fairly bulky to so
- 16:36and it sort of hung off my shoulders. So I mean, I I
- 16:40you probably wouldn't mistake me for a man if I wasn't wearing like yeah,
- 16:47with your hair probably on the inside of it or whatever, right, But
- 16:49no, I had I had a short hair for a long time. Oh
- 16:52there you go, yeah, and there you go. So it's like,
- 16:56yeah, no, I you my first eight like I wore. I wore
- 17:03steel toed army boots and a plaid jacket and jeans. And if my husband,
- 17:07my husband, my now husband saw that, and who was like,
- 17:11oh she was dressed like a man. Intriguing and uh you know that this
- 17:15is I'm not sure what she's going with a female competition because most of us
- 17:19have parents, have husband's significant other significant others. Many of us don't bother
- 17:26with a lot of makeup like I think Roma does. But I don't think
- 17:30Pearl does. Aside from probably what's necessary for being I don't even think Roma
- 17:36bothers so much with makeup. It's it's tattoos and piercings with her. Yeah,
- 17:40yeah, that's the Okay, but let's let's get started, because we're
- 17:42guessing on what she said. All I will say is that this does the
- 17:48first section is all about Pearl. So if you're wondering if this, if
- 17:52Pearl's existence is the inspiration for this, at least in part, yes,
- 17:56although not limited to that. But I'm not going to go into that because
- 17:59I just seems like petty shit. You know, it's actually called I do
- 18:04not like just pearly things. So that's kind of how she like gets into
- 18:07this. But I think she's using Pearl as an example. Does she does
- 18:11she actually make any salient points about what Pearl says that she disagrees with?
- 18:19Well, yeah, well she's section. She's using this to get into what
- 18:25she really wants to talk about. So all right, I need clarity before
- 18:27we continue the section we're going into she talks about Pearl or the section we're
- 18:33skating, I think I think it's it. There is some of that in
- 18:34this as well. She's using as the impetus. But I think the first
- 18:38part is just her insulting her. I think she does bring up the fact
- 18:42that, well, at least like what she believes, that Pearl is single,
- 18:45and this is like the reason she's doing any of this stuff apparently,
- 18:51But yeah, I don't. I don't think so. I think that I
- 18:52think that Pearl is like a brand of Tarth and she just understands how things
- 18:57work. Yeah, I think so. I'm inclined to. But anyway,
- 19:00you guys in the show chat, I'm gonna play it. Yep, Okay,
- 19:06let's do it. So there is another issue I have with some of
- 19:11the red Pill ladies, and I think so many men don't see this because
- 19:15no offense. But a lot of men are just really bad at spotting women
- 19:19who are acting from self interest. If those women are just saying things that
- 19:22they want to hear, Okaya, lipstick, rouge, eyeliner, mascara,
- 19:33prune to eyebrows, giant ear rings, giant earrings, right, very ill,
- 19:41fin face. She would be beautiful with makeup or without, and she's
- 19:48like, but she still feels like she has to try. Right, she
- 19:52would be beautiful without any of that makeup. I guarantee you she's got a
- 19:57base of foundation there too. Right, should be gorgeous without any of the
- 20:03makeup, but she still puts on the full face and uh, Pearl,
- 20:11Pearl, the freckly Ginger is the one who's just doing it to get male
- 20:18attention. Well, you don't understand she's putting this makeup on for herself.
- 20:23You say, oh, yes, yes, and Pearl, you know,
- 20:27like Pearl could be quite stunning. Pearl is not wearing makeup for men.
- 20:36Yeah, no, she's not wearing makeup for men. Instead of makeup,
- 20:38she's putting on a false persona is what she's doing, right, Yeah,
- 20:48but everything about this is a false persona. This is this is all false
- 20:52advertising. Yeah, you know, and like you're saying, she's probably attractive
- 20:59without it, at least, you know, in a in in the video,
- 21:03she's got beautiful symmetrical features. She's got a chisel jaw, she's got
- 21:07nice cheekbones even without the enhancement. She's she's got nice, wide set eyes.
- 21:17She's she's a very attractive woman, except for that weird thing in the
- 21:22center of her hairline. That's weird. It is weird. I didn't even
- 21:26notice that. That's what. That almost looks like a really really petty she's
- 21:37asking for it, she's asking for it. Well, this is the battle
- 21:41ground, this is this is the territory that she wants to fight over.
- 21:45You have chosen. Yeah, yeah, she chose these terms, so saying
- 21:51to men are having sympathy for men because she's not really qualifying what kind of
- 21:56concern is incorrect and phony. So all I can assume from this so far
- 22:02is that it's just any concern. But let's continue, Brian, let's I
- 22:06got a super chat from Anemic Royalty. Thank you, Aniemik. He gives
- 22:10us four ninety nine and he says one slash two FTR. This girl is
- 22:15a trad con. I don't know what FTR stands for, like an internet
- 22:18thing for the record, for the record, okay, I'm not a big
- 22:22fan of her, but I believe she actually gives some of the substantive critique
- 22:26of these types people miss and an out of two out of two which he
- 22:30did not send a super chat with with, but I will read it.
- 22:33Do you a favor. She called out Pearl for not taking a man's sexual
- 22:37assault claim. Seriously, I don't remember when it is all right, thank
- 22:41you for the super chat. I think I think this is a feminist though,
- 22:45but we'll we'll keep playing. I mean, not that there's a big
- 22:48difference between the two, but the way I've been doing this forever. Let's
- 22:52be a little more discerning, please. Yeah. So there's this really bratty
- 22:56and superior attitude amongst some of the red pill women that I find women have
- 23:00been expressing concern for men forever. Are you kidding me? I don't know.
- 23:11Go ahead, she reminds me. You know who she reminds me of?
- 23:15Bizarro World, Elizabeth Hobson. Yes, you know, is this Bizarrow
- 23:21Elizabeth Hobson. Okay, we go ahead, Hobson. Elizabeth Hobson is also
- 23:26very gorgeous in this exact same style. Yeah. And uh and but she's
- 23:34at least kind of thoughtful. Yeah, okay, all right. So let's
- 23:41like, I'm not exactly sure why saying that she has traditional values makes anything
- 23:47she's going to say better. I don't think they're saying that. I don't
- 23:51think that anyone, all right, But I mean, if she did call
- 23:53out Pearl on not recognizing the sexual abuse of a man, that's that's good,
- 23:57you know, props to her. If yeah, if that's true,
- 24:00unless that's just a tool to give her, like, you know, leverage
- 24:06against Pearl, and she really wouldn't care otherwise, in which case it doesn't
- 24:08really matter. Unless that is itself toxic competition showing that concern. I don't
- 24:14know. Yeah, keep common, Okay, the things that constantly accusing other
- 24:18women of being so some of the first videos that I ever saw of Pearl
- 24:22were these shorts she did with her friend who I believe. Okay, just
- 24:23a second, I want to say one last thing. Okay, if women
- 24:27commonly expressed concern for men, this idea of blaming men for the world's problems
- 24:34without I mean, if if men are one hundred percent responsible for society,
- 24:37or even majority responsible for society, then they're also responsible for the boons of
- 24:42society. But no, we isolate the problems and put them on men,
- 24:47and we just don't talk about the boons. If women had this kind of
- 24:51universal concern for men, would that have ever be gotten? Traction? If
- 24:56this was a common behavior in women expressing concern for men, stint this whole
- 25:00omna to blame came out. Women will be like, but what that's that
- 25:04would have a bad fact on men? Stop it and that would be the
- 25:07end of it, don't you think? Yeah? I yeah, I agree.
- 25:15Sorry, I'm chewing double bubble again. Okay, that's fine, but
- 25:21uh two away as Halloween, I can't feed it to the dogs. Well,
- 25:26I can't let it go to waste and it won't last until next year.
- 25:29Well you could, and then they could blow bubbles from out one end.
- 25:33Hm hmmm, the wrong end. Yeah. But but the idea that
- 25:41I like, I do believe there are grifters in this movement, but like
- 25:56women who are tag alonging tag alongs and they're just kind of basically it's it's
- 26:03it's a new fashion, right, it's kind of like being punk, right,
- 26:11and their heart's not really in it. But okay, I gotta spit
- 26:18this gum out, all right. Well I will watch a little bit more
- 26:22and you compose your thought. All right, I got a super chow.
- 26:26I should put it up, yester, just do it? Do it?
- 26:30Do what? Do what? I got a super chow? No, I
- 26:33got a super chow. Okay, So from an anonymous person, we got
- 26:37to give them priority so that they send more through. Gives us ten dollars
- 26:41thank you, and says does she allow concern for men? Yes, I've
- 26:45watched all of her long form videos on the likes of Tate and Waller,
- 26:49and the answer is unequivocally yes. She said that Tate has positive things to
- 26:53say to men. Also does she make salient points in response to Pearl.
- 26:57I did appreciate the segments on Tait's application of the lover boy method and Pearl's
- 27:03dismissal of the concept. If I thought it was a bit uncharitable, I'm
- 27:07assuming malice over incompetence, among other bits. Thank you for the super child.
- 27:11I don't really know who this person is, so you you might be
- 27:15right. I don't know, but I think that when you What I have
- 27:19noticed though, is that there are women in this circle or this part of
- 27:26the internet that appear to be supportive, sympathetic, or adjacent to men's issues.
- 27:33And they were probably really involved at some point, but they have since
- 27:37backed away and you know, hurled criticism or whatever. And I'm you know,
- 27:44it's your business do it. Support whatever you want or don't support whatever
- 27:47you want. But I think that sometimes it's a bit annoying because they will
- 27:53It's like they come here and they want to say the nice things and be,
- 27:57oh, I care about you guys, you know, I understand your
- 28:00struggles blah blah blah, and then they like get really into it and they
- 28:04realize how much pain and anger and rage there is and and after a while
- 28:11they go, you know what, these people are misogynistic or this is a
- 28:15bad movement or comfortable. Yeah, it makes them uncomfortable, and then they
- 28:19just sort of like throw shade, you know, a nice raft. Yeah.
- 28:25Like I give you an example, Uh, Sidney Watson. So Sidney
- 28:30Watson she hosted or or had like a men's march in Australia years ago.
- 28:37I thought it was great. I had her on the show. We talked
- 28:41and and you know, and I still think that she's like she's been on
- 28:45a bunch of Jubilee stuff. Yeah, she's been on Jubilee stuff, et
- 28:48cetera. But but she she I saw her recently on Triggerometry and when she
- 28:56was on there, she was basically saying that she's moved away from the red
- 29:00pill stuff because you know, and she mentions like, oh this it's like
- 29:06Andrew Tate now and like this or this or that, you know, like
- 29:08misogynistic dude, and oh you know it used to be something, but now
- 29:12it's this other thing. And it's like, Sidney, you are on our
- 29:17show. We've been here for a long time. You know that we exist,
- 29:21and you're and you're basically just like oh man, there's just like it's
- 29:25it's it's just the flip side of feminism. It's just the other side.
- 29:27It's the same shit I heard it from. And I think I still would,
- 29:33you know, be charitable to Sydney and say, I know that you're
- 29:37well meaning, but you're you are letting your emotions about certain aspects affect your
- 29:44view of the whole, and you're not actually like telling these guys like,
- 29:47oh, look, you know the cause because the Triggernometry guys, they're looking,
- 29:49they're always looking for some excuse to be like, we are in the
- 29:53perfect position of moderate and if you're not right here, then you're obviously too
- 29:59low IQ to understand how great this specific spot on the fence is. And
- 30:03it irritates me to no end because this is not an issue of right,
- 30:07well, this is not an issue of like, how do you feel about
- 30:11you know, like this particular I don't know, like these guys in the
- 30:15manisphere and do you want to be associated with that or not? I don't
- 30:19give a shit, Like I'm doing what we're doing. Like what matters to
- 30:22me are the principles, the concepts and the ideas. And I think that
- 30:26and I don't know why it is, but it's mostly with women that are
- 30:30in this they get to a point where they become uncomfortable and they want to
- 30:34back away, and they want to backtrack and say, look, I don't
- 30:37support any of that shit. And the thing that really bothers me is that
- 30:41they don't seem to get is the only reason why you now have Andrew Tate
- 30:47as the face of the manisphere is because you have ignored so many more moderate
- 30:51people that came before and try to talk about this stuff because their audience wasn't
- 30:55big enough. And now he's got like millions of views and everybody's upset and
- 31:02it's like, yeah, but there are people who have been here for a
- 31:03long time. And I'm not just talking about myself, just so you know,
- 31:07I'm not just talking about this channel. I'm saying that there are people
- 31:11that have been involved in this conversation for years and years and we are still
- 31:15like, you know, like you're not even gonna get I don't know,
- 31:19Mike Buchanan, Janis FIAMENNGO, fucking Paul like, no, you won't do
- 31:26that. And also some of those people are too far. I saw what
- 31:29happened with Shoe on head, getting into it with Paul Elam online and you
- 31:33know, on Twitter or whatever, because again she was like, well,
- 31:37look, I'm all down with you guys, but if you like cross this
- 31:41line, if you cross this line, if you're too angry, you know,
- 31:44if you if you like, I don't know, insult women that are
- 31:47thoughts or whatever, then I'm gonna block you. I'm gonna call you the
- 31:49same. You're the mirror image of this other institution that runs everything, that
- 31:56runs everything. You're the same as that because you have a few angry guys
- 32:00on the internet. And it's like no, so okay. So what I'm
- 32:04saying is and I'm sorry for like monopolizing the time. But what I'm getting
- 32:07at is this woman might be fine, but her her premise I don't like
- 32:16because it is in its nature it appears to be exclusionary, like Pearl is
- 32:24not real and she's not like really somebody that we should be. It's like
- 32:29what Roma does, where Roma constantly attacks Pearl and then Roma says, this
- 32:32is my men's rights community. She basically takes ownership of it. I don't.
- 32:37I don't think, well, yeah that's what she does. Yeah,
- 32:40she says this men's right community meant so it's like, you know, you
- 32:45have to do this my way and everyone else should be excluded. And I'm
- 32:50of the opinion that I don't care what perspective or what angle people have.
- 32:54If they're out there talking about this stuff, then that's good enough for me.
- 32:58And I give props to Pearl because she did the thing that Sydney wouldn't
- 33:02do. That Lauren Southern wouldn't do that, Shoe on head wouldn't do until
- 33:07like she got some pressure to do something and then she threw us a bone,
- 33:09thank you shoe And who else am I thinking of? And yeah,
- 33:15those are like the main ones, right They because they don't want this to
- 33:20harm their reputation or their image or whatever, so they back away. But
- 33:23Pearl doesn't care. So she gets Paul on, she gets Janis on,
- 33:27she gets you on, she gets Mike Buchanan on, And I'm like props
- 33:30to her. That mean like that, like you know, if you're if
- 33:35you want to be successful, one of the best things is to be a
- 33:37good middleman, and that's what Pearl is doing. Then I will support that,
- 33:42period, That's what I'm saying. So I well, I mean it
- 33:45depends. I think it depends on what you mean by success, right,
- 33:50success in terms of the movement, or success in terms of the revenue you
- 33:55pull. Well, I guess for me it's more about the re but like,
- 34:00yeah, I see what you mean. Yeah no, And it's like
- 34:04so I I kind of I've always looked at it like or success in terms
- 34:08of understanding what's going on, and I've always kind of looked at that as
- 34:14the primary success that I wanted. I want to understand what's going on,
- 34:17and then I want to I want to say it, say what I think
- 34:22is going on, and and that's not just in terms of you know,
- 34:28feminism and men's rights, also in terms of race relations and even the vaccines.
- 34:37Yeah yeah, and uh and yeah no if if Brian, if you
- 34:44want to do a show on those, I can give you a show on
- 34:47those and it'll be but okay, but okay, My my issue is so
- 34:55like I interviewed Rushbik, I interview this can't well. I interviewed James Demore,
- 35:02I've interviewed Sasha Day game right, and every single and then I freaking
- 35:12nuked somebody from Orbit whose name shall not be mentioned, but starts with m
- 35:19and I every single time I had loyal people in you know who, loyal
- 35:28followers or subscribers to my channel, right say oh, I can't believe you
- 35:34did this. I'm like, so fucking they'll watch it. Don't watch it.
- 35:38Then if you don't want to watch it, then it's not for you.
- 35:44I'm not making this content for you, right, I'm making this content
- 35:50for me, and I'm not making this content to make money or get clicks.
- 35:53I'm making this content to put the truth out there, or put what
- 36:00I believe is the truth out there, right, or other people's perspectives or
- 36:07you know, different points of view on controversial topics. That's what I'm doing
- 36:12it for. And so I don't care, like I don't want to get
- 36:16canceled. That's why I demonetized my channel. I demonetized the whole channel,
- 36:22set all of it to over eighteen. Right the moment my older videos started
- 36:29to be demonetized, and the moment that they said, oh you have to
- 36:34you have to guess correctly whether you're your content is suitable for under eighteens,
- 36:39and I was just like, fuck it, fuck it, right, I
- 36:45don't need the money and I don't want all of my videos to go down
- 36:52because I guessed wrong, right ye, or I monetized the wrong video you
- 37:00and because that's that's that's my work, it's my that's ten years worth of
- 37:06work there. I don't want it to disappear just because I guessed wrong and
- 37:13YouTube or some idiot at YouTube, some blue haired booby that YouTube decided I
- 37:19don't like her, So three strikes, she's out delete channel. Yeah,
- 37:27so I'm just like, but you like, there are people who are really,
- 37:34really really raking in a ton of money right on these issues, and
- 37:43they have to look at their channel like a business. They have to,
- 37:50and so Roma Army. If she's depending on that income, she has to,
- 37:55like, she has to consider it her men's rights. Can county she
- 38:00ass do? Yeah, it's not, but it's her pay check. Yeah,
- 38:07I get it. I get it. Okay, I got a super
- 38:10chow. I got two, but only one of them came up on my
- 38:15interactive chat saying I saw to read the other one out without displaying it from
- 38:20anonymous, the same guy who sent us that last one. He says,
- 38:23I for five dollars, I appreciate and agree with almost everything you're saying.
- 38:28But having watched this particular woman. While being a big fan of HBr,
- 38:30I do believe she's well earned the benefit of the doubt. I didn't mean
- 38:34to mark as anonymous. It's okay. I mean, like I said,
- 38:37I'm open to hearing her out. Maybe maybe she will have something constructive to
- 38:43say. Let's see, would be lovely to hear her out. Yeah,
- 38:45let's listen more, Let's listen more. All right. I tell you,
- 38:49the pure amount of cringe from these videos made my organs die inside my body.
- 38:57When I tell you to prepare yourselves, I don't want to thing that
- 39:00I'm joking. Maybe get into the brace position because this is bad. So
- 39:02they made a few of these shorts together, and okay, I'll play them
- 39:07and tell me if they don't fit this scenario. So this series of videos
- 39:10they made when they were hanging out together, this reminds me. So you
- 39:14know when you were at school, Okay, you were at school, and
- 39:15then a group of girls would get in a fight, and then two of
- 39:19the girls involved This sounds really specific, but tell me if I'm wrong,
- 39:23two of the girls involved would have a sleepover and then they'd go on Facebook
- 39:28and post like passive aggressive pictures showing how much of a good time they were
- 39:30having, or post status updates that were like snide digs at the girls they
- 39:34were in a fight with and get all like uppity and bratty and post all
- 39:37online. It was utterly embarrassing but also kind of forgivable because they're twelve.
- 39:40Yeah, so imagine two adult women being childish enough to do that. And
- 39:44also their fight is with all of the women on the internet. All right,
- 39:51And so there's a meme. Oh this is uh oh, what's her
- 39:54name? Fame the woman on the left, Her name is fem sapiens.
- 39:58She's a Puerto Rican girl from shitar I don't know why I never met her
- 40:02anyway, And yeah, she is anti feminist as well, so I know
- 40:08that much. The caption is we don't care in capitals, which I personally
- 40:17find very convincing. Katie and Lucy got in a fight with Yeah, well,
- 40:24personally, I find it really I don't find it helpful. All of
- 40:29this battling groups of women are doing over how they structure their lives, like
- 40:36whether or not they submit to a man, whether or not they stay at
- 40:37home, whether or not they work, whether or not they have children,
- 40:40whether or not they have a frickin dog. You know, it seems like
- 40:44this is this is a behavior that women engage in, and they do a
- 40:46lot of it. They take some of the most ridiculous ways of judging each
- 40:52other, like whether or not they've eaten sugar during pregnancy, and they put
- 40:57people on other women on blast for it, and they completely ignore things like
- 41:00are you beating your husband? You know? Are do you recognize the fact
- 41:06that your son could possibly be sexually abused in some context? Do you?
- 41:10Or do you tell him? Oh? You you have to take the responsibility
- 41:14for rape because you're a man like you. Do you care about the things
- 41:16that you say to your sons? Do you care about the things that men
- 41:21and your family have to endure when they walk out the door? Do you
- 41:23care about any of that? Do you care for your male relatives? And
- 41:27a real genuine can care like something that extends out to understand their point of
- 41:31view and the pressures in their lives, like are you going to walk away
- 41:36if your husband loses his job? Right? All of these things, these
- 41:40are the things. These are ethical and morac moral considerations, and instead they
- 41:45play stupid games about did you eat I don't know coffeine? During pregnancy and
- 41:52other stuff like that. It's like, is that really that important versus are
- 41:59you having a kid who's know their father? You see what I'm saying.
- 42:02Yeah, well yeah, but I think that the idea of the traditional wife,
- 42:13right, submitting to a man, Okay, yeah, but that's my
- 42:21point. It's like, yes, if that's what you want, go for
- 42:23it, right, yeah, but but there are things that it's not necessary,
- 42:30Like I wish, I wish this soul submitting to a man thing would
- 42:36just go away, because that's never been the case. Women have never really
- 42:42truly and really, what it is trusting your male partner. There you go
- 42:46and you're trusting him. You're trusting him to drive, you're trusting him to
- 42:51make decisions, you're trusting him to have understanding within his sphere of expertise,
- 42:57right, and you're trusting him. That's what it is. It means trust,
- 43:00That's what it means. And yeah, I can see what she's saying.
- 43:05They've sort of turned this idea of submission into a way of well maybe
- 43:09not, because what they're saying is that this is the way I want to
- 43:13structure my life, you know, and if it pisss you off, I
- 43:16don't care. That seems to be what they're saying. And they're also like
- 43:20in their twenties, right, so yeah, they're gonna be a little bit
- 43:23selfish or like shallow and caddy. But my overall point is I don't think
- 43:30that it's relevant like if a woman wants to have a career like Ben Shapiro's
- 43:35wife, or if she wants to stay at home like somebody else's wife.
- 43:38I can't name it the moment, but I'm sure exists. You know me.
- 43:43What matters is that you care about the men in your life. You
- 43:47try to make their life easier. You trust them, you know, you
- 43:52listen to them, You make sure that their concerns are part of the equation,
- 43:57regardless of how that that falls out in a shallow way. And I
- 44:01think the reason why women compete over oh stay at home oh versus career is
- 44:07it really is a competition almost over like a like a who is the correct
- 44:15way of arranging your life? It's like there is no correct way. Once
- 44:19you're within the rubric of ethics and compassion. You get what I'm saying,
- 44:24As long as you're dealing with people around you with concern and compassion and you're
- 44:30trying to support them and be a good person, then it doesn't matter that
- 44:34this just shallow stuff. And I think that that competition is really about resource
- 44:40garding for women in a way, because you know, a lot of the
- 44:45advancement for career women comes from this belief that women are discriminated against in the
- 44:53career sphere. So if it's recognized that women actually have this other option,
- 44:58it's legitimate. A out of that, the the accuracy to the or the
- 45:04understand or the veracity that's the word I was going for, veracity to the
- 45:08claims of oppression of women in the workforce disappear, so they lose the resources
- 45:15that those claims give them access to, like preferential hiring, scholarship, first
- 45:22freeze, you know, like all of this other stuff in the workplace.
- 45:23They lose access to that, and so stay at homes threaten that narrative and
- 45:30then stay and then women who with a career threatens stay at homes because they
- 45:34sort of, you know, because it sort of shows that when you're staying
- 45:37at home and you're not a homesteader, you actually really have a very a
- 45:42much easier life in some way, lay very light work day, so it's
- 45:46sort of. It's sort of it goes to the heart of that that that
- 45:52that that threatens the narrative of the self sacrificing stay at home right, and
- 45:59it threatens the narrative of the oppressed career woman. So they each of these
- 46:02two groups of women threaten each other's narratives. So they're constantly at odds.
- 46:07And it's like, no, you don't have to be. If you're a
- 46:10woman who prefers to go out and support her family, there's a biblical model
- 46:15for that. If you're a woman whos to stay at home and support her
- 46:17family, there's a biblical model for that. I'm not just saying that you
- 46:21only have to use biblical models, but whatever. But I'm just saying that
- 46:24the point is to care about the people in your life. It's not to
- 46:32expect everyone to adhere to your particular narrative that allows you to grab resources if
- 46:37you're a career woman, or grab resources if you're a stare at home.
- 46:42It's about caring for the people around you and the men and trusting them and
- 46:47caring for them and recognizing that masculinity has its own virtues and that you should
- 46:52listen to it because you know, it's a point of view that you don't
- 46:57have and can inform your own in a positive way. So you see what
- 47:00I'm saying, You don't need this. This entire competition is ridiculous and wrongheaded
- 47:06in my opinion, And that's my conclusion of that. Well, shut up.
- 47:12I will say that I think it was Warren Ferrell who mentioned that,
- 47:17you know, the the most virulent anti feminists in when he was involved with
- 47:25the National Organization for Women were women married to successful men, stay at home
- 47:36women married, stay at home wives married to successful men, because they viewed
- 47:45women in the workplace as direct competition against their husbands and well their husband potential
- 47:52sources of threat to their relationship. Yeah, their husband, their husband's success
- 48:00in the workplace was threatened by the influx of all of these highly educated career
- 48:06women blah blah blah, not just highly educated with an empowering narrative that allowed
- 48:10them to these resources that they didn't get through merit. Yeah, And I'm
- 48:17like, they weren't wrong, right, And it's like, well, I
- 48:22stay at home and yes, I do things right. I like, not
- 48:28me in particular, I'm talking to like the general me, as you know,
- 48:32a stay at home person of a successful man. I stay home.
- 48:38I do things. I help organize his life. I you know, set
- 48:44up social gatherings. I you know, do his correspondence. I may fill
- 48:51out his Christmas cards that you know, grease. The social wheels of his
- 48:55is network of bosses and underlings and coworkers and clients and potential clients and all
- 49:07of that, right, And I manage all of that, And I manage
- 49:12the money, and I manage the household, and I arranged for dinner parties
- 49:15and things like that and where we entertain his boss and the new partner at
- 49:22the law firm or whatever. Right, and I do all those things right.
- 49:29And that even if you have a housekeeper slash cook on staff, right,
- 49:37even just doing that managing that kind of man's career, right, being
- 49:43the wife of someone who's highly successful, can be a very taxing and busy
- 49:49job. And they were extremely threatened by the idea of quotas on boards,
- 50:00directors, quotas in the c suite, quotas in the executive office. No
- 50:06ship yeah oh yeah, And well you know that's like if if and it's
- 50:13how they were doing nothing just because they weren't scrubbing floors. Yeah, no,
- 50:19I'm not. I'm not saying they were necessarily doing nothing, but it
- 50:22honestly, it is still about a resource being threatened, essentially both camps on
- 50:29both camps. Yeah, this is this is the whole thing. Men compete
- 50:32over the vedge and women compete over the money. Yep, that's competing over
- 50:40access to resources. Yeah, that's that's how intersexual competition works. Men compete
- 50:46for sex, women compete for resources. That's that's how it works with all
- 50:52mammals, social mammals. Did I I got some super chats and superchows and
- 50:59then we're gonna get No, probably not, but I mean, like,
- 51:04how long have you been here? All right? So I got a super
- 51:07chow from Richard. It didn't come up on the screen for some reason,
- 51:13just this one, but I'm gonna read it for five dollars. And he
- 51:15says an issue with Roma is that she will cherry pick about who she deems
- 51:20worthy of her advocacy. Still can't get her take on Kyle Rittenhouse out of
- 51:24my head. There is a purity spiral going on, just like with a
- 51:29particular demographic right where there is only one correct way to be a part of
- 51:32the cause. If you don't vote for me, then you aren't blank.
- 51:37Just like there is only one correct way to be particular demographic, and anything
- 51:43else is an inauthentic impersonation of that particular demographic, whether it's you know,
- 51:47women, trans people, whatever. Yeah, of course that's how intersectionality really
- 51:53works. What was her take on Kyle Rittenhills. Oh Roma thought that he
- 52:00was a terrible, terrible white supremacist racist that crossed the state lines to kill
- 52:05black people, even though he ended up having to defend himself against three white
- 52:08dudes or three not black people. I don't know if they were white,
- 52:14but I think one of them might have been like partly Hispanic. Yeah,
- 52:19another one was like, well, he had a Jewish name, so he
- 52:22knows, but doesn't matter. Point is, she had the usual mainstream media
- 52:28tape, you know, and people called her out on it, and you
- 52:34know, I don't know how. Yeah, I guess she did at first,
- 52:39but I don't know she's you know, she's from she lives in BC,
- 52:45and I think people who live in like these really nice parts of Canada,
- 52:49they just don't know how the world works. So I don't know.
- 52:52Yeah, no, no, if you're if you're gonna live in BC and
- 52:59you actually want to know how the world works. There's you have to live
- 53:05in rural BC, but only certain types of rural because there are hippie enclaves
- 53:13in rural areas. It's just like washing Spring Island and stuff like that.
- 53:19Yeah, but you you have to like Alberta has it mostly has its head
- 53:28on its shoulders. But my mom's riding her federal district. Electoral district is
- 53:40a bunch of commis, right, but that's where the university is, right,
- 53:45So yeah, I think Saskatchewan has its head on its shoulders even better
- 53:52than Alberta. Now, well, yes, although we did elect Daniel el
- 54:00Smith yeah fops to you guys. Yeah, and as premier. And not
- 54:07only is she a smart lady and a very independent minded lady, but she
- 54:16was very sweet when we met her in Calgary. I've actually met the Premier
- 54:22of Saskatchewan too. He he went to our small town after the debacle shall
- 54:30we call it, not the not specifically the debacle of the Saskatchewan government,
- 54:37just been the Canadian government entirely. And yeah, he the sound system wasn't
- 54:44working, so he was he was actually trying to help get it working.
- 54:46Which was interesting to watch. Well, you know, like uh, conservatives
- 54:54tend to be like handyman. Yeah, well it was you. I gave
- 55:00props to him to go out into the constituency because he got a lot of
- 55:04ship. I said when when he when he was talking, after he'd finished,
- 55:08I thanked him for coming, and I said, well, you know,
- 55:12you've been getting a lot of pushback, but at least you didn't.
- 55:15You didn't call the call a state of emergency, call the war measures acts
- 55:21on us. Yeah, okay, let's go go. Okay, okay,
- 55:27wait, you gotta let me read the people give us money. I should
- 55:30read their chats. So, oh okay, giving us money? People will
- 55:36supers and super chess. Well apparently yes, but as Run gives us five
- 55:43dollars and says it would be wonderful if these women could climb the Social Matter
- 55:46and Matt Ladder and create a matriarchal following without putting men in the crossfire.
- 55:52All right, and then I don't think you. I think I don't think
- 55:57something about you know, I think he is well Ashton, please clarify.
- 56:02Do you mean me and Karen or do you mean somebody else? I think
- 56:06he's talking about the word guys, we're talking to the subject. Yeah,
- 56:09okay, probably, I mean I can't speak for him, but and I
- 56:14got a super chat chat I'm sorry from good thing. I clicked on this
- 56:22fang Yuan who gives us four hundred Indian rupees which is about four like almost
- 56:31five dollars in US money, and says love from His name is Yuan,
- 56:39but he pays in rupees, yes, Indian rupees from India and he says
- 56:45love from India. We love you genuine MRAs. Could you please interview mister
- 56:51Anil Murthy from SIFF India. We would love to hear it. Yeah,
- 56:55I've I've responded to the email I said I would have him on a problem.
- 57:02Yeah, did you respond to Justin Trotier. I have not responded to
- 57:07Justin Trotier yet, but I will after the show is over. So yes,
- 57:13I but like I said, I am more than open to talking with
- 57:17O'Neil because yeah, I mean, I totally do it. So anyway,
- 57:25all right, let's play some more of the video. I don't think there's
- 57:28anything else. And by the way, D Live is being sold today,
- 57:30do you guys know that? So it might not be worth it for us
- 57:34to be on D live. I think I think D live is being sold,
- 57:38yeah, or I've got it mixed up with the other one, but
- 57:42I think it's D live okay anyway, because they were invited to Sophie's party
- 57:45and they really want those girls to know they don't care. They're having their
- 57:49own sleepover and it's way more fun. And also James doesn't even fancy Tarror
- 57:52probably anyway, because he was snogging Angy behind the bike shed. So who's
- 57:55the loser? Now take a picture? Okay, Okay, it's belaboring the
- 58:06point here the hand and listening. Okay, No, we need to plan.
- 58:15Do you guys realize how much shit is happening, is rolling downhill towards
- 58:20our civilization? Could we just knock this off entirely like shut out? I
- 58:27will? I will agree that this complaint does hold some merit, okay,
- 58:35but there are times when there is among both men and women where there is
- 58:45within ranks conflict that needs to be dealt with, and the way men tend
- 58:54to deal with it, at least in the old workplace before women infiltrated it
- 59:01and like colonized hr and set all the rules because they've done studies, and
- 59:08they've found that relational aggression is this what she's describing here, right, is
- 59:15how women aggress against other women. And they have found that men don't cut,
- 59:27males don't come by it naturally, but by the time they are in
- 59:30the working world, because the entire structure of society up until their adults is
- 59:38a matriarchy effectively, you know, daycare, ka twelve, right, college,
- 59:45all of that is now a matriarchy with female values and female ways of
- 59:51being within those environments. Right. They have learned to mimic that, and
- 59:58they do pretty much just as well with the passive aggression as opposed to the
- 1:00:07aggressive aggression. Right. And I've always just gone for the aggressive aggression.
- 1:00:17I prefer that because then nobody actually is You don't say nobody has to read
- 1:00:23between the law. Nobody has to read between my lines, Allison. They
- 1:00:30know, yeah, right, And reading between the lines is a dangerous fucking
- 1:00:37game because sometimes somebody's being an asshole, or sometimes somebody's being passive aggressive to
- 1:00:45be an asshole because they're trying to be passive aggressive and fuck with you.
- 1:00:51But sometimes it's just because they're autistic, yep, right, or they're not
- 1:00:57paying attention, and then you retaliate with reputational destruction and annihilation and and then
- 1:01:06boom, someone's out of a job. James Demore gone gone from Google.
- 1:01:12Mm hmmm because he tried to be honest when asked to give feedback. Yeah,
- 1:01:20honest in a world where nobody wants you to actually tell the truth,
- 1:01:22but act like you do. Oh, I mean, it's fine, call
- 1:01:28call her out for for relational aggression right now, Well, she's actually,
- 1:01:34she's actually kind of she's escalating. Yes, now we now at least know
- 1:01:40there's a real genuine conflict. She has read between their lines, right and
- 1:01:49and said, Okay, they're targeting people like me. Right this this message
- 1:01:53was broadcast, but it was specifically meant so that I would hear it.
- 1:02:00Okay, yes, what she's inferred and and so now she's giving a direct
- 1:02:06message back at them. So I will give her credit for that. But
- 1:02:13yeah, but it's still you know, like, does she really know who
- 1:02:19these ladies were? I guess maybe if there was some cat fight going on
- 1:02:24behind the scenes right in this group of women who claim that they're for men.
- 1:02:32I I don't know, Like I don't keep track of them. I
- 1:02:38will speculate as to what the conflict is. So I'm gonna take what that
- 1:02:45one supporter that said that this person is like genuinely like well intentioned when it
- 1:02:54comes to men. I will take that to heart and then say, then
- 1:02:58what she probably seems to take issue with are the tactics or the outcomes,
- 1:03:07like the the optics of Pearl's content. So I think that Pearl goes on
- 1:03:12TikTok and she does these short videos and so first of all, let's let's
- 1:03:17let's try to be try to understand. Okay, So she's on TikTok.
- 1:03:21Now, to me, that's a mistake. But in general, I wouldn't
- 1:03:24go on TikTok for anything because it's basically Chinese spyware. But if you're on
- 1:03:30there, and this is how Roma grew her following, and probably a lot
- 1:03:35of other folks that had their own little things they wanted to like, you
- 1:03:38know, people they wanted to reach. I think that because the nature of
- 1:03:45the format is very short videos, some music, some words, whatever,
- 1:03:51or maybe you can like go on a little rant or whatever it is.
- 1:03:54I think that she and fem Sapien were like, let's just make some videos
- 1:03:59making fun of you know, feminists or just women three or four's whatever it
- 1:04:03is. And I don't think that's a big deal personally, because like the
- 1:04:10shit that we do and say about men is way worse. But it'sunny really
- 1:04:14about that. I think that what she's doing is saying, look, if
- 1:04:16I if I do if I put the message out this way kind of like
- 1:04:20Paul's Bang of Violent, you know, Bang of Violent Bitch Month or whatever
- 1:04:25it was, if I put it out this way, then it's gonna get
- 1:04:28more attention and y'all'll get outraged, I'll get people that are triggered by it
- 1:04:32or whatever. But then they're gonna come here and they're gonna talk to me,
- 1:04:36and then they'll see more of my content. And so it's like,
- 1:04:40I think she sees it as a way to reach people, and sometimes you
- 1:04:43have to reach them, or at least that's what she believes, is they
- 1:04:45have to reach them by infuriating them. It's how she got the Daily Wire
- 1:04:48to make a bunch of videos responding to her, you know, because she
- 1:04:53said something about marriage not being a good deal for men, and of course
- 1:04:56the Daily Wire guys being that they're all like, you know, very pro
- 1:05:00marriage, family tradition stuff. They had to respond, and so by responding
- 1:05:05they lose because now people that watch them are gonna go look at Pearl's content
- 1:05:10and they're gonna see what she's really got to say. So it's effective now,
- 1:05:15you mus and people have gotten you know, I've gotten shipped from guys
- 1:05:19in the in the men's rights space because I have. I'm I'm trying to
- 1:05:25remember what it was about. I think it was. It might have been
- 1:05:29something to a Pearl, but I can't remember, but I remember saying that
- 1:05:35it wasn't it was, Yeah, I can't remember exactly. I think it
- 1:05:39might have been. It was maybe about Russell Brand or something, and I
- 1:05:44defended him. It might have been him, it might have been one of
- 1:05:46the other men that have been like lcq's or whatever. And this guy who
- 1:05:50was an MRA and he was following me on Facebook. He yelled at me
- 1:05:54because he thought it didn't matter that I what I believed about the K but
- 1:06:00what mattered was how bad it would make us look if I supported that person.
- 1:06:05And so this is the thing that we always have to deal with people.
- 1:06:10This is what I'm saying when I talked about how Lauren Southern and Sidney
- 1:06:15Watson and others have sort of backed away. It's because they're concerned about the
- 1:06:19optics and how it will reflect on them. And and I'm like, Okay,
- 1:06:24that's fine if you can't handle it, but just like give us,
- 1:06:28give us some room to just do this ourselves, like people who don't care
- 1:06:31about the optics. But the truth is that if you're concerned with the optics,
- 1:06:35someone, well you do, but you do need somebody doesn't care.
- 1:06:40Yeah, you need somebody to take for you. You definitely do. But
- 1:06:43also like it's not gonna matter. Like this is another thing I try to
- 1:06:46tell people, like you keep trying to like get these people to like you
- 1:06:50that hate you, And you think that if you do it the right way,
- 1:06:54if you use the right tone, if you make the right kinds of
- 1:06:57arguments, you're gonna get more support from these people. No, you're not.
- 1:07:00They're gonna hate you anyway, just by virtue of what you support.
- 1:07:03It doesn't matter how you present it. Like I support helping men with their
- 1:07:11issues with essentially that are brought upon them by the state through women and through
- 1:07:15bitter women, and the stuff that feminists have done to the system. There
- 1:07:19is the only thing that can be done is that that has to be criticized
- 1:07:26and dismantled, and there has to be like stuff, you know, to
- 1:07:30take the weight off of men, Like we have to stop doing that and
- 1:07:33we have to treat them like human beings. And that's it, right,
- 1:07:35It seems really simple. But the thing is that no matter how I present
- 1:07:41that, it will be treated like a zero sum game, like I'm trying
- 1:07:45to take something away. It doesn't matter how well I put it. It
- 1:07:47doesn't matter. Like nobody is kinder than Warren Ferrell, okay on these issues.
- 1:07:53He's been talking about this shit since the seventies and their state. They
- 1:07:56accuse him of being like you know, in set supporting pedophile because they don't
- 1:08:01care. That's what I'm saying, Like I don't know if you like,
- 1:08:04if you guys get it, it doesn't matter, Like it doesn't even get
- 1:08:08any more contentious than trying to like get these issues addressed, Like there's nothing
- 1:08:14more contentious. Yeah no. And and so you need people who are like
- 1:08:18actually cocking their hips and basically sticking their chests out, and you know,
- 1:08:29uh being the Paul Elams being the yeah no, because those are the ones
- 1:08:36who Actually I said this very very early on when I was when I was
- 1:08:44in this movement, right that, well, why did people accept Martin Luther
- 1:08:49King's proposition? Because there was a Malcolm X waiting in the wings, and
- 1:08:59the people were willing to say, you know what, we might not love
- 1:09:05Martin Luther King yet, but I know we're gonna like him more than we
- 1:09:11like Malcolm X. Yeah, exactly. You you have an Andrew Tate now
- 1:09:17because you ignored Warren Ferrell in the seventies, well, and you've ignored everyone
- 1:09:23in between. This is what's infuriating to me about you know, like,
- 1:09:27oh, stop defending Andrew Tate. Don't defend Andrew Tate. You you're defending
- 1:09:30Andrew Tate. No, no, okay, yes i am. I'm defending
- 1:09:34his right to exist, Okay, to be a human being living on the
- 1:09:40planet. Okay. I defend that. I defend his right to act within
- 1:09:45the legal bounds of what is permissible, right, even if he's a dick,
- 1:09:51even if he's an asshole, Okay, if the law allows permits him
- 1:09:58to be that, right, then he's perfectly entitled to do those things.
- 1:10:03Right. And three, if an army of young disaffected men are listening to
- 1:10:15him. You can you can make one of two choices. You can put
- 1:10:21Andrew Tape in prison and make a murder of him, or you can listen,
- 1:10:27because you know what, not everything he says is wrong, not everything
- 1:10:31he says is evil, Not everything he says is untrue. Yeah, if
- 1:10:43you get rid of him, the next guy is gonna be like more extreme.
- 1:10:48And it's like yeah, no, no, you need to stop.
- 1:10:53You need to listen. You need to ask yourself, why are these young
- 1:10:57men fixated on Andrews? Why? Right? Because I don't like Andrew Tate,
- 1:11:03right, I don't like personally, Like I don't even find him physically
- 1:11:12attractive, Okay, And if I liked men who drive bugattis, I would
- 1:11:18not have married a man who drove a twenty year old minivan, Okay,
- 1:11:24Like I'm sorry, Like it's it doesn't appeal to me, that whole thing,
- 1:11:30that whole yesh lifestyle, the mansion sports are all of that, right,
- 1:11:35It's never appealed to me. I've always been like a homesteader at heart,
- 1:11:41and so it's just cozy. I just want things that are cozy,
- 1:11:47and so he he doesn't appeal to me at all, not sexually, not
- 1:11:55in any kind of romantic sense, not in any kind of ethical sense.
- 1:11:59Right, So if there is something that he is doing for young men that
- 1:12:02the society is not doing for them, and you know what, if what
- 1:12:06he's doing for them is making them feel good about themselves, Yeah, that's
- 1:12:15not Andrew Tate's fault. No, exactly, exactly. That is about everybody
- 1:12:20else's failure to be able to do that. Yep. Or will point something
- 1:12:27out. I want to point something out to this, to the whole agitate
- 1:12:30thing. Andrew Tate is proposing some kind of positive identity in the context of
- 1:12:38our society. Now people don't think it's positive, but when the next thing
- 1:12:45comes, it will definitely seem a lot more positive in retrospect. He is
- 1:12:51focusing on this idea that young men can illicit sexual desire in women so that
- 1:12:57they can have that kind of a positive sense of them through interactions with women
- 1:13:00and interactions with society, getting wealthy whatever. That's still a relationship with our
- 1:13:08society. Like Andrew Tate is still proposing a relationship with society and with women
- 1:13:15that it involves actual consent. Like I know that they say, oh,
- 1:13:17he used the lover boy method he got them in his thrall or whatever else.
- 1:13:21But putting aside anything criminal that he ends up being charged with, what
- 1:13:28he's proposing for young men is to have at least something of a pro social
- 1:13:34relationship with their greater society and with women. All Right. If you can't
- 1:13:40see that, if you honestly look at that and say that is not the
- 1:13:43case, then I invite you to realize that eventually there will be a figure
- 1:13:49that appeals to young men who says there's no reason to have any kind of
- 1:13:55relationship with Western women, there's no comm reason to have any kind of relationship
- 1:14:00with Western society. And I've actually, like I've been going back and forth
- 1:14:04on where that's going to come from, and at the risk of I don't
- 1:14:09know, getting a strike, I think it actually may end up being Islam
- 1:14:15yea, and it made It may be that Islam starts to appropriate all of
- 1:14:19these disaffected young men, Western men who have nothing else, and they and
- 1:14:26they start to give them an identity of something a positive relationship to something positive
- 1:14:32relationship to something that has nothing to do with Western cultural values. And then
- 1:14:36you're going to see that Andrew Tate was, you know, you could have
- 1:14:41stopped the train with Warren Ferrell. You could have stopped the train with Jordan
- 1:14:45Peterson, you could have stopped the train with Andrew. And now there is
- 1:14:50no there's no after this. There is nothing. There's nothing left. There's
- 1:14:56nothing left. And the reason why I say that is because the last thing
- 1:14:59that the feminists gave men as a way to differentiate themselves as men and still
- 1:15:03have something of a positive identity with society and women was as a playboy,
- 1:15:09which is exactly what Andrew Tate is. This is he is the end of
- 1:15:12the line of folks. Yeah, no, he's the last before the cliff.
- 1:15:15He's literally men described by feminism maholiic. Yes, it is an inventory
- 1:15:26of masculine norms. You know, what's what feminism has done. It's basically
- 1:15:30narrowed the relationship, the positive relationship between society and masculinity. So before before
- 1:15:38feminism, it's basically said, there is nothing for Gilgamesh. There is nothing
- 1:15:45for Gilgamesh other than what he was at the start of the epic. Yeah,
- 1:15:55there's nothing for Gilgamesh to be. There's nothing for young men to contribute
- 1:15:59positively to society as men. The one thing left to them was Playboy,
- 1:16:02and that's Andrew Tate. Now we're getting rid of that. We're basically we're
- 1:16:08basically saying to young men, there is no way for you to participate positively
- 1:16:13in society. There is no positive identity for you in our society. You
- 1:16:16think that young men are just gonna what what do you expect from them?
- 1:16:19Well, first of all, they're going to stop participating in society, and
- 1:16:24they may just if they're not people when you playboys, and we're going to
- 1:16:30get simps and that's it, and the play we're not even going to get
- 1:16:33that. We're not even going to get that, Karen, because we are
- 1:16:39now in the process of destroying the last thing that feminists said was at all
- 1:16:44pro social, a pro social masculine identity, and it was only one percent
- 1:16:46of men who identified with Playboy. So every man is now landing, every
- 1:16:51young man is now landing on that as the only pro social identity available to
- 1:16:56him, and we're in the process of destroying that as well. So what's
- 1:17:00gonna happen is we're going to eject all young men into this place where there
- 1:17:04is no pro social way to engage with society. Feminism doesn't offer any kind
- 1:17:11of pro social way to recognize your unique value as a man and engage with
- 1:17:16society. And what I mean by that is ask a feminist, we're positive
- 1:17:20masculine traits that you define as masculine in the same way you define negative traits
- 1:17:25toxic traits. They can't answer, and if they do, they give you
- 1:17:29meadium mouthed answers like wow, traditional math. Well, I'm not talking about
- 1:17:31traditional masculinity, talking about your masculinity. There's nothing positive in it. The
- 1:17:36feminist perception of masculinity offers absolutely no way for a young man to identify as
- 1:17:45a man and participate positively in society. I want you to just think about
- 1:17:48that. And the last thing was Playboy. Andrew Tate is the last stop
- 1:17:54on this train. And then men, young men will have absolutely no way
- 1:17:58to identify as men and participate positively and be recognized as participating positively in our
- 1:18:03society. That means you're going to have a generation of young men after we
- 1:18:09successfully destroy Andrew Tate and throw them into the wolves or whatever neo Andrew Tate
- 1:18:14comes after him, you know, after we successfully destroy young men's ability to
- 1:18:18identify with Playboy, which incidentally, most men wouldn't normally, but that's the
- 1:18:23last thing left to them. They're going to be gone from our society.
- 1:18:27We are going to recognize no way that a young man participates positively wen society
- 1:18:31as a young man, as a man, and they are going to be
- 1:18:35left to drift. They are no longer going to be recognized as part of
- 1:18:39our society, and we will have done that to them and to ourselves.
- 1:18:43You think that generation of young men with absolutely no identity, no positive identity,
- 1:18:48who do you think is going to pick those guys up? When it's
- 1:18:51not Andrew Tate. No connection now to the Western culture, no connection between
- 1:18:58their masculinity and some kind of positive contribution to Western culture. They're completely cut
- 1:19:03off. Now, we've completely cut off an entire generation from men from our
- 1:19:08own culture, and we have chosen that deliberately, and we have said it
- 1:19:12to them. We have said that we cannot as a culture recognize the unique
- 1:19:18value of men to our culture because that means women are excluded from something and
- 1:19:23we can't do that. So we cut them off. And where we're going
- 1:19:27to go. What's the biggest complaint about Andrew Tait? He exploits women?
- 1:19:32Okay, well, he seduces young women. Apparently they really like bugattis and
- 1:19:40abs and mansions, and at least these ones do, and then he brings
- 1:19:48them into the business of scamming men out of money. Right. They're cam
- 1:19:58girls, but they're not just any can girls. They do the camgirls do
- 1:20:04the performance in front of the camera, right, and they pretend to type
- 1:20:11right on camera. But who's actually typing is one of Andrew Tate's male employees,
- 1:20:18workers whatever, right, And that's the person who's actually telling this man
- 1:20:26in Britain that, oh, my Romanian mother is so sick. She's so
- 1:20:34sick, she needs hospital, she needs operation. Send me twenty five thousand
- 1:20:42pounds or she die. Right, Okay, So that's what you get that,
- 1:20:50that's what the eighty twenty rule gets you, right, is it's not
- 1:20:56just women being exploited, it's man too, Yeah, of course. And
- 1:21:01it's and it's the well meaning men. It's the men who do think,
- 1:21:06oh this this cam girl, right, you know, Yeah, I looked
- 1:21:12at a cam girl and I interacted with her, and once I got to
- 1:21:15know her, she seemed so lovely and she says she wants to come and
- 1:21:21visit me in person, and oh, no, her mother needs an operation
- 1:21:27and she needs twenty five thousand pounds, and you know she shouldn't have to
- 1:21:35deal with that, and she shouldn't have to be performing in front of a
- 1:21:40camera. I could, I could make an honest woman out of her if
- 1:21:45I just sent her twenty five thousand dollars to get her mom that surgery and
- 1:21:49then fly her over here and we can get married. So all of these
- 1:21:55well intentioned men, all these men that the feminists say, oh, men
- 1:22:02should be this way, men should be this way, right, they're being
- 1:22:05screwed by men like Andrew Tait and his fucking harem of freakin' horse, Yeah
- 1:22:15right, who are also in it for the money. They weren't complaining,
- 1:22:20no, of course not. But of course they're also the biggest victims.
- 1:22:26But let me I got a super chat and we should like play some more
- 1:22:30of the video. So okay, so I got a super chat for two
- 1:22:32dollars from Senior Sticks. And he says pro keeping saying this is it true
- 1:22:38or not? Okay, thank you, Senior Sticks. I'm sorry I don't
- 1:22:41quite understand, but that's ok yeah, I appreciate it. Can I just
- 1:22:45say one thing, okay, using your Gilgamesh. Example, it'd be like
- 1:22:48Sumer saying to Gilgamesh, yeah, you have nothing, We don't need you
- 1:22:53for a damn thing. Go go into the wild with inky Doo and stay
- 1:22:57there because you have nothing positive to contribut to society. And I guess then
- 1:23:01Gilgamesh goes into the wild with then can do and they form a raiding tribe,
- 1:23:05and just yeah, well or or or Gilgamesh just remains as he was
- 1:23:13at the start of the story, claiming the brides of men newly married,
- 1:23:19and fucking them on the wedding night, and treating everybody like shit, and
- 1:23:28and running rough shot over everybody, uh, sending the young men out to
- 1:23:33war, raping women, all of those things. Right, that's that's what
- 1:23:41he did, right, Well, you know, because that that's masculinity before
- 1:23:49it goes through the process. Okay, Well, and regardless, I don't
- 1:23:56think that's quite what I'm trying to get at. It's the total rejection of
- 1:24:00men from society. When you totally reject men, you can't become something better.
- 1:24:05You can't. There's nothing that you can do, right, Because if
- 1:24:09you're a breadwinner, you're stealing a job from a woman. Right. If
- 1:24:13you're a husband, you're you're enslaving a woman in matrimony. If you're a
- 1:24:17father, you're probably abusive, right, if you're if you're anything, no
- 1:24:24positive traits, no positive masculine traits, nothing that men can provide for society
- 1:24:29that's positive. You've essentially severed men's identity from society completely. Like, I
- 1:24:34don't know if this is confusing, but it's like, there's no way for
- 1:24:39men to be in our society as a man and contribute positively to it.
- 1:24:43There's no way to recognize that he does. And this is this is peak.
- 1:24:47There's nothing unique to him. Yes, as a man. Yeah,
- 1:24:50as a man, women will will always have the uniqueness of being able to
- 1:24:57give birth, right, even if they choose not to, Right, they
- 1:25:00always have that right. Men, right, what do they have? Fatherhood?
- 1:25:05That's oppression and legally tenuous right. And they have their penis, which
- 1:25:15is a weapon of gender war. Okay, let's look at it this way.
- 1:25:19Let's imagine we're in a walled city, all right, and this waled
- 1:25:24city has got a hair up its ass about young men, and it's decided
- 1:25:27that there's no way for a young man to exist within the waled city in
- 1:25:30a positive manner. So the young they say to all the young men,
- 1:25:33well, you can either just recognize that there's nothing for you to contribute as
- 1:25:39a young man, so there's no way for you to feel like you have
- 1:25:44a unique contribution being a man in our society, or you can leave and
- 1:25:48essentially are Actually we don't even give you the choice. Just leave. So
- 1:25:54that this waled city is pushing out all of its young men, what position
- 1:26:00that then it's like the powers out, Who's gonna happen? What position?
- 1:26:04What position does that put the walled city in when it's removed all of its
- 1:26:09young men? But what's what do you think is gonna happen? What?
- 1:26:13What? What's the future for this waled city with all of its young men
- 1:26:15exiled? Right? Just think about that? What's likely to happen? It
- 1:26:26would be so easy, right, because it's like, it wasn't hard for
- 1:26:29me to teach my boys to value themselves, right, taught my daughter to
- 1:26:36value herself too, Right. But it's like it's it's not hard. It's
- 1:26:43it's not hard, and it's not hard as a parent who recognizes what's going
- 1:26:48on and what's being kind of bounced around in the culture to counteract that and
- 1:26:58and to basically just prepare them, like and bolster them and say, okay,
- 1:27:05well, you can't listen to this and you can't listen to that because
- 1:27:09it's bullshit. It's it's total bullshit. But we need somebody to actually stop
- 1:27:17the Greek chorus, right that, the Greek chorus of women's victimhood and men's
- 1:27:26perpetration of women's virtue and men's vice. Right, We need to we need
- 1:27:32to silence that chorus because that is really what is happening within the culture,
- 1:27:42and not all parents are even really aware of it, and a lot of
- 1:27:46parents who are aware of it believe it. There are so many parents out
- 1:27:51there who actually believe their boys are bad. Yeah yeah, And let's look
- 1:27:57at it this way. Andrew Tait, maybe one of the times that many
- 1:28:00of these young men that looked up to him have ever heard a positive word
- 1:28:03about themselves as young men. Yeah, that that is the first time somebody
- 1:28:11has said it's okay to be a young man. Yeah, you want Andrew
- 1:28:14take to be your son's role model? Yeah yeah, yeah, And let
- 1:28:17yeah keep going, keep going with that Greek course, keep exiling young young
- 1:28:21men. See how what a wonderful future that's going to create for you.
- 1:28:27And and the thing is that the conservatives have no solution to this. The
- 1:28:31liberals have no solution to this. Everybody I taught a lot of people I
- 1:28:34talk to seem to blame socialism, and it's like, well, where do
- 1:28:38you think socialism comes from. It's from a female intersexual competition. Yeah,
- 1:28:45well, let's be honest. It doesn't even matter that the main thinkers were
- 1:28:48men, because usually main thinkers are The main thinker of feminism was a man.
- 1:28:53Okay, they're really going to say that feminism has nothing to do with
- 1:28:56women. So this idea, yeah that it really does all come down to
- 1:29:02the messaging that we're giving young men, and we are exiling them from our
- 1:29:08society. We're saying we have no role for you. Well, they're not
- 1:29:11going to sit on their ass. If the last person who says that there
- 1:29:15is something good to being a man, as Andrew Tate, of course they're
- 1:29:18going to listen to him. What's the alternative blowing the brains out and then
- 1:29:24being blamed for it by their parents. My son, Jesus christ my son,
- 1:29:29showed me a video the other day when we were driving to the store.
- 1:29:32It was this guy. It was on Instagram or something. He's like,
- 1:29:36oh, this was pretty funny. And it's like a video of some
- 1:29:41guy saying okay, So here's here's some dating advice that I've taken from the
- 1:29:46comments under my videos, women's comments under my videos. Always text her,
- 1:29:54never text her, call, make sure you call, don't text her call.
- 1:29:59Oh, don't call. That's creepy, right, And he just goes
- 1:30:02through all of the contradictions. Take her out for a couple of drinks.
- 1:30:06Oh no, no, no, no, never drinks right, And it's
- 1:30:13just like and and if you do all that, you'll get a girlfriend.
- 1:30:18And it's it's like, yeah no, and this is what young men like
- 1:30:25My son, this is what he watches. He thinks it's apropos, right,
- 1:30:31this is my youngest son. And he's just like, yeah no,
- 1:30:34this is what it feels like. This is what it feels like, because
- 1:30:39no matter what you do, you've done wrong. If you text her yeah
- 1:30:45wrong, if you don't text her wrong, if you call her wrong,
- 1:30:48if you don't call her wrong, if you take her out for drinks wrong,
- 1:30:53if you don't take her out for drinks wrong, if you say,
- 1:30:57oh, let's just hang out and chill. Wrong right, if you if
- 1:31:01you do, say you know, let's hang out and chill. Wrong right.
- 1:31:08Never say oh, you just want to hang out and chill, but
- 1:31:12say you just want to hang out and chill. Right. And it's just
- 1:31:15like this, there's no rules anymore because women threw away the rule book.
- 1:31:21That's what feminists did. Feminists and women with women's connivance threw away the rule
- 1:31:29book. And now there's nothing. There's no roadmap for young men, there's
- 1:31:34no there's no way for them to even navigate the dating world. Well you
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- 1:32:01I just want to do a shout out again for editing my book thousand.
- 1:32:14I'm sorry you muted. When did I mute? You're editing your book?
- 1:32:20For editing your book? Yeah, and if you like to help me out
- 1:32:25with that, it's a Feedbadger dot Com, slash support at this moment,
- 1:32:28and I just want to say a few words on why this is important to
- 1:32:30me, this this particular project. I feel like the way that we analyze
- 1:32:36things, the way that we analyze how societies work and how they function,
- 1:32:42is it's more than just an important point of view to really understand where we're
- 1:32:45going as a society and what we need to change in order to affect a
- 1:32:49better outcome. But I also think that it's a groundwork for returning to a
- 1:32:55greater understanding of character and being able to write and depict character in a way
- 1:33:00that I personally like. I've read a lot of books lately, read a
- 1:33:03lot of books in history. We lost something somewhere and I don't know,
- 1:33:08maybe it was the nineties in terms of our ability to depict character and really
- 1:33:13understand how people work. And I wanted to get back to that. And
- 1:33:17so that's one reason why I think that this is a really important project.
- 1:33:21And I think there needs to be more depiction of men and women working together
- 1:33:27in relationships of respect and affection, and I don't see a lot of that
- 1:33:32in fiction today, and I want to bring that back as well as well
- 1:33:36as a recognition of women's particular ability to have power over of the world around
- 1:33:44them. So anyway that sounds of interest to you. And it just occurred
- 1:33:46to me because I was in an argument recently with Michael Flood. You know
- 1:33:51Michael Flood a Karen. He is a feminist professor, and he gets me
- 1:33:58so frustrated because I get to the point where we're talking. We're talking and
- 1:34:02I asked him a question in this case, I said, I told him,
- 1:34:06you guys are killing love, You're destroying love. And he's like,
- 1:34:10he laughed at me. He said, I'm laughing at you. And I
- 1:34:14said, the reason why I say you're doing that is because you're presenting the
- 1:34:18relationship between men and women as one of more defined by violence. That men
- 1:34:24are more defined in their relationship and their attitude towards women by violence than love,
- 1:34:31and that's destroying the relationship between men and women. And he he he
- 1:34:39blathered, and he said, well, you know, if men are if
- 1:34:42men are defined by violence, it's because a minority of men are violent,
- 1:34:45and they need to men need to realize that as long as a minority of
- 1:34:48men are violent, it's right to judge men as all men as is complicit
- 1:34:54in that violence. And I'm like, would you say the same thing about
- 1:34:58trans women, that they should be judged by a violent minority, or Muslim
- 1:35:01men or black men? And he refused to answer that question or even engage
- 1:35:09with it. No. Actually, what he said is, oh, well,
- 1:35:12that's different. We need to we need to look at that with nuance.
- 1:35:15And I'm like, he just answered my question one you will, bald.
- 1:35:18They say that men should endure the pain of being a subject to a
- 1:35:25broad brush based on the violence of a minority of men, but if we
- 1:35:29want to do the same to any other group, it needs nuance. And
- 1:35:32then he went into this long tirade about how I was disingenuous, and then
- 1:35:39you know, he didn't want to engage with that question because I was being
- 1:35:42disingenuous because of blah blah blah, because of a previous thing that we had
- 1:35:45exchanged. And I'm like, these individuals like Michael Flood, they have a
- 1:35:51stranglehold on how we perceive the relationship between men and women and the value of
- 1:35:57men in society. They have a strangle it and it's horrible and I want
- 1:36:01to do something to change it. And I know that many cases, just
- 1:36:05let me finish that. I know that in many cases people understand this stuff
- 1:36:10better through characters than they do through abstractions or even events. So that's what
- 1:36:15I want to present. I want to present this thesis, what we talk
- 1:36:17about here in a story, and if you want to see that happen,
- 1:36:23feed the Badger dot com slash support. Really important to me that that happens.
- 1:36:28Okay, back to you, Karen, go ahead. I was just
- 1:36:31I was just wondering, Okay. So I kind of stepped into the middle
- 1:36:35of a conversation between you and Michael Flood where he was asking about a self
- 1:36:43described proclivity towards rape for women or sexual aggression for women. He wanted to
- 1:36:51study of women's predictions of how likely they would be too sexually coerce men and
- 1:37:03you, and I was just like, why, well he proposted this study
- 1:37:12that Okay, oh god, I've been in it with him for like months
- 1:37:16now, and finally I just muted him because I just couldn't stand it anymore.
- 1:37:20But I had said that feminists present these studies in which they say,
- 1:37:26you know, X amount of college men would rape, and I say that
- 1:37:30they lump in all kinds of behaviors like giving her a glass of wine at
- 1:37:34dinner, and even in the study itself, that isn't considered to be rape.
- 1:37:39It's considered to be coercive, which I think is really stretching it.
- 1:37:45Or alternatively, are making an argument why they not not a threat, but
- 1:37:49just you know, giving you giving a woman an argument, not like a
- 1:37:55verbal disagreement, but just like a present. This is why this is my
- 1:37:59bullet point list of why you should sleep with me? Okay. And they
- 1:38:02presented that version, right, and I'm like, no, there's a difference
- 1:38:06between trying to get a woman's consent and invalidating her ability to say no,
- 1:38:13you know what I meaning it? Yeah, contravenient, Like you can do
- 1:38:16that with threats, you can do that with physical violence, you can do
- 1:38:19that with drugging to the point of unconsciousness. Well okay, but arguably if
- 1:38:27you say, well, I'm not I'm not interested in having a romantic relationship,
- 1:38:35in being a boyfriend to you if there's no sex involved, right,
- 1:38:44and they would consider that to be coercive, right, And it's just like,
- 1:38:47yeah, well no, take it or leave it, right, Like
- 1:38:50these are the terms for what I expected in a relationship and if you are
- 1:38:58not willing to provide that, then we can go our separate ways. That's
- 1:39:02coercion according to these people. But how useful are these fucking studies, these
- 1:39:13self assessed proclivity studies? Niceless basically useless, right, because you could say,
- 1:39:20well, you know, oh god, you could say, would you
- 1:39:27ever? Would you ever do this? Number one? You never might be
- 1:39:33in an opportunity to do it. Would I like to have a million dollars?
- 1:39:45Yes? Would I do this? Would I do that? Would I
- 1:39:53do this other thing? Would I blah blah blah? Right? No,
- 1:39:58all you have right that is in any way reliable. He's talking about oh
- 1:40:03you know, uh, twenty five percent of men in college say they would
- 1:40:10rape or sexually aggress against women. Right, And then he's like, well,
- 1:40:15it show me the studies that say the same where women say the same
- 1:40:19things. They wouldn't They wouldn't say that about themselves sometimes even if they've done
- 1:40:27it. Well, actually, I was thinking about studies in which women self
- 1:40:30report sexual coercion, and yes, sexual self report, they self report at
- 1:40:38extremely high levels. Right, Yeah, that's what I was trying to get
- 1:40:42at. And it's like that they've done it, right, And he's saying,
- 1:40:46well, but that's not the same as women assessing their proclivity to do
- 1:40:51it in the future, and it's like that's meaningless. Right. You can
- 1:40:58say, well, yeah, I would do that if I presented with the
- 1:41:01opportunity, You sure I would do it. I have said repeatedly I would
- 1:41:05kill somebody if necessary and not freaking lose a moment of sleep. Right.
- 1:41:11If I was kyle rittenhouse that night, yeah, I would have shot all
- 1:41:15those fucking three guys. I wouldn't have fucking lost a moment of sleep.
- 1:41:18I wouldn't have felt a moment of guilt about it. Right. Okay,
- 1:41:24does that mean that I'm gonna go out and shoot someone? No? Am
- 1:41:29I ever a kid in that position? No? Right? Put in that
- 1:41:33position, would I try something different? Yes? Okay, Well, let
- 1:41:39me put it this way. When I talk to people like Michael Flood who
- 1:41:43are just this sheer amount of reckless hate. And it's not just this this
- 1:41:48parent hatred towards men, it's this kind of disgusting hatred towards seeing men and
- 1:41:56women together. Yeah, he's gay, Allison, I think he was said
- 1:42:01he was in a loving relationship with a woman, but regardless, even if
- 1:42:04he is gay, not all gay men act like that. Okay, So
- 1:42:09it's it's like this this hatred of seeing men and women love each other.
- 1:42:15There must be some kind of word for this kind of pathology. And when
- 1:42:18I encounter it and I know that it has such a freaking voice in the
- 1:42:23world, you know, like it's it's everywhere. It's in academia, it's
- 1:42:27in media, you know, it's in the government. Well it's and it's
- 1:42:30this academia. Academia spread its tentacles everywhere because academia is what populates every freaking
- 1:42:38idea, every institution, right, But I see this everywhere, and it's
- 1:42:43so government, law, the legal system, everything, everything. There's feminist
- 1:42:53tentacles in everything. It is like a freaking it's like a noxious weed that
- 1:43:00they cultivated in academia. Like my neighbor waters his freaking creeping bellflowers and they're
- 1:43:06just popping up all across my lawn. They're anxious weed. And you know,
- 1:43:13the city by law officers they can see them all over my front yard,
- 1:43:17but they can't see past his fence to his flower bed full of them
- 1:43:23in his backyard. Okay, So my point is that when I engage with
- 1:43:28these people, it just it feels exhausting and silencing. Gross, It's gross,
- 1:43:32and like that you need to you need to prove it. Prove it,
- 1:43:36prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it. Like open
- 1:43:40your fucking eyes, ye know, well open your eyes to what you're actually
- 1:43:45doing. Open he wasn't actually happening out there. And the only thing I
- 1:43:50can think of is maybe to offer like an alternative view of something that's less
- 1:43:57nihilistic, less misanthropic, because ultimately, when you say this about men and
- 1:44:00women, but the relationship between men and women, that it's defined by hate,
- 1:44:03basically the hate of the oppressor for the oppressed and the hatred of the
- 1:44:08oppressed for the oppressor. It's like this, you end up basically defining all
- 1:44:13human relationships and the most degraded, destructive, and disturbing terms. It's an
- 1:44:20unbelievably misanthropic approach to reckon to everything, and it's so exhausting to see and
- 1:44:30to not be able to say anything, you know, like not be able
- 1:44:32to present a counter argument to I mean, we can present a counter argument,
- 1:44:38but that just seems to gloss over people. So ultimately, I guess
- 1:44:43this project like honey, like I feed the Badger dot com. Slash support
- 1:44:47is my way of approaching it from another another front. Warren Ferrell. Actually,
- 1:44:57the first time I talked to him, which by email, was when
- 1:45:02I put up my very first blog post and then my husband sent it the
- 1:45:11link to him to Warren Ferrell, he was my boyfriend at the time,
- 1:45:17and asked what he thought of it. And then I got home from work
- 1:45:23and he said, you're going to be really mad at me. And I
- 1:45:26was like, what did you do? And he told me, and I
- 1:45:29was so mad, so mad at him, And then like an hour later,
- 1:45:34Warren fairly emails back and I was like, oh, well, now
- 1:45:38I'm not so mad. But he said that given my background of like writing
- 1:45:46novels, I should I should write novels with men's rights themes. And that's
- 1:45:55not precisely how I construct fiction, right, Like I can't. I just
- 1:46:00can't do it. I can't pick like a cause and like construct a note.
- 1:46:04I don't think anybody who's read the story, I mean it's going to
- 1:46:09be. It's now in a developmental edit stage, so it's going to change
- 1:46:12somewhat. But I don't think anybody's read the story has really identified the theme.
- 1:46:17It's there, it's there, it's not there, And yeah, but
- 1:46:21I do. That's it's not the way I write books. I write books.
- 1:46:27I start with a scene and some characters with backstories, and then I
- 1:46:31just write. And I don't storyboard, I don't outline. I don't know
- 1:46:36the plot. The plot comes to me as I go. Right, So
- 1:46:41I'm very chaotic in that way. And so I there's no way, there
- 1:46:45was no way I could. When I write essays, right, that's totally
- 1:46:50different. I can construct a good essay, but like very very detailed and
- 1:46:57orderly and explanatory and surrounding a theme and all of that blog posts and stuff
- 1:47:02like that. But but I can't do that with fiction. I just can't.
- 1:47:09And so but I'm glad that you can't, because he actually said that
- 1:47:14that would be like a something that would present the themes and the ideas.
- 1:47:23Well, let me put it this way. In fiction, the theme the
- 1:47:27theme is there. I did not, like, I didn't do the usual
- 1:47:31thing where, oh, you know, like the way the feminist is presented
- 1:47:34dystopia and basically a woman living in a world. That's that kind of thing.
- 1:47:39I didn't do it that way. I did it in a way that
- 1:47:43you know, it comes out of the story, It comes out of the
- 1:47:45characters, it comes out of the resolution of the climax. But it's not
- 1:47:49something that you necessarily read and be able to put your finger on saying,
- 1:47:55oh, yeah, this is this is this is based on men's rights.
- 1:48:00Like my editor is a is a normy. She's even aware, Yeah no,
- 1:48:05she's work. Yeah. Well, I mean it's it's like you're not
- 1:48:11you're not being obvious, Like you know that you remember that Star Trek Next
- 1:48:15Generation episode where Commander Riker falls in love with that androgynist person who has gender
- 1:48:27Okay, she identifies as female even though there is no gender in her society,
- 1:48:32and then she gets reprogrammed and you know, supposed to really make you
- 1:48:36think and yeah and all of that, right, Like it's I'm I'm sure
- 1:48:41it's not going to be anything remotely as obvious as that. But yeah,
- 1:48:46no, But in fact, I wrote a story. If I had tried,
- 1:48:51if I had tried to do something men's rights right of men's rights novel,
- 1:48:57it would have been that obvious that the way that I approach my writing,
- 1:49:01it's a little similar to yours as chaotic too. I just think about
- 1:49:05the things I want to say, and then I forget about them and write
- 1:49:10a story, and then somehow it just comes out. I don't know,
- 1:49:15I'm a little bit weird. But anyway, if you want to support that
- 1:49:17kind of a project, I mean, I don't know if it's gonna work,
- 1:49:21but it might be a bit of a hail Mary. But I really
- 1:49:26want to bring something like something that recognizes the beauty of humanity and the relationship
- 1:49:32between men and women into the world. If you want to see that too,
- 1:49:36Feed the Badger dont comm slash support. I really appreciate it because it's
- 1:49:41it's sort of my it's sort of my salvation whenever I have to deal with
- 1:49:44the Michael Floods of the world who seem to be hell bent on destroying anything
- 1:49:47good in it. So anyway, once again, feed the Badger doult comm
- 1:49:51slash support, and we should we should watch a little bit more. I
- 1:49:55think is Yeah, I know, Brian has a hard limit for when he
- 1:49:58can stay. I have to pick Lindsay up at seven and it's six o'clock
- 1:50:02almost. But I did get more super Child's and stuff, so I should
- 1:50:06read through them, so sleepy Ausy bot or I'm sorry, just sleepy Auzzy,
- 1:50:14I don't mean to read the bot part gives us twenty dollars and says,
- 1:50:16hey, badgers, here's a tip to help help you keep up get
- 1:50:21the good work. So thank you Sleepy Azzy for that. I really appreciate
- 1:50:28it. And then I got another one from Richard Bierre, and this is
- 1:50:34kind of a mouthful, he says. When the Calhoun mouse Utopia habitat experiment
- 1:50:40went into its final die off stage, the researchers found that there was nothing
- 1:50:44they could do to reverse the decline at all. The beautiful ones, when
- 1:50:47placed in a new habitat, wouldn't even attempt mating behavior. So if a
- 1:50:51tipping point does get crossed, then it will be highly likely that there will
- 1:50:56be no reversal or recovery because the psychological facts won't be overcome. Thanks for
- 1:51:02that white pill. What was that? No? No, no, no,
- 1:51:10Alison, Briefly, briefly, I just want to say one to allow
- 1:51:14me to digest my black pill. Okay, because that is only one of
- 1:51:19the two pills. What's the other one? Boil? Yes, yeah,
- 1:51:27if we we need this is our shot. We got to take it.
- 1:51:30Otherwise we're just gonna We're gonna be an extinct. We need to achieve escape
- 1:51:35velocity this time. We need to achieve escape velocity. And the fundamental truth
- 1:51:41of it is either Earth is just insatient matter and which case it doesn't fucking
- 1:51:45matter if it's preserved, or it does have its own will in a kind
- 1:51:50of way like the Gaiat hypothesis, in which case Earth created us, Earth
- 1:51:55wants us, and Earth wants us to escape Earth because we are of Earth,
- 1:52:01like, we don't get away from that, and our destiny is Earth's
- 1:52:04destiny. Okay, So anyway, I just wanted to say that. But
- 1:52:08the other thing is that I think we can still stop it. We are
- 1:52:15still at the Andrew Tate stage. So we are entering the final stop before
- 1:52:19the cliff. I mean, the Michael Floods of the world seem to be
- 1:52:24held bent on kicking out the breaks and opening the throttle towards the cliff.
- 1:52:29But who knows, maybe there we can appeal to a critical mass of women
- 1:52:35to challenge this and do so in a way that doesn't necessarily involve this highly
- 1:52:42toxic competition between women. But anyway, do you see how I did that,
- 1:52:46Brian, Let's watch some more. Wait, I got I'm not done.
- 1:52:50I have to read all the super chats and stuff. So Senior Stakes
- 1:52:54gives us two dollars and says, can your book be VR and digital for
- 1:52:58Oculus Rift. I don't know how that works? But I don't know.
- 1:53:04I mean, maybe my dog is wooing, but no, I don't even
- 1:53:11understand what that is. Just just explain it and maybe I can. He
- 1:53:15wants to make it into like basically a hollow novel for VR, so a
- 1:53:21novel he can read in VR. I mean, novel he can watch in
- 1:53:28VR. I don't know how, and maybe even participated. Yeah, well,
- 1:53:33I think we need a slightly bigger budget than the one we have to
- 1:53:38do that, so I I I cannot answer that question with there's some app
- 1:53:45that takes like a kindle uh and makes it into a VR kindle where you're
- 1:53:53in VR looking at the kindle in the virtual space, in which case get
- 1:53:59the I think I think he wants to experience it. Yeah, well,
- 1:54:03okay, when I have we sell like ten million copies and we have a
- 1:54:10movie, then I'm pretty sure the video game and VR adaptation will come so,
- 1:54:20yeah, we'll see huh will Day. Yeah, there's a lot of
- 1:54:27pressure here. Yeah, I know. Make sure it's a make sure it's
- 1:54:30a best seller. Otherwise, you know you're not getting any more support,
- 1:54:34Sleepy. He gets another five dollars and says, Alison, how do I
- 1:54:38support your book? Feed the Badger says, the fundraiser for the book is
- 1:54:42closed. Yes, because I didn't. I didn't. I didn't update the
- 1:54:47the time. I I just updated the time. So if you want to
- 1:54:51help out, sorry, by guys, you're trying to help out. I
- 1:54:55was wondering why nobody was putting anything through. I changed the d so that
- 1:55:00there's another week on it because I've been just doing it. I've been opening
- 1:55:02it up monthly because I know it's a it's a it's a bit of a
- 1:55:06marathon to get this thing edited properly. So if you can go to Feed
- 1:55:11the Badger dot com slash support and throw a few shekels in the hat for
- 1:55:15that, that very much appreciated. Thank you, Sleepy Auzie for pointing that
- 1:55:19out. I'm guessing that if you hadn't, I would have gone the whole
- 1:55:23week and wondered why no one, no one cares it would have been because
- 1:55:29I hadn't opened up the fundraiser. A. Yeah, like me at the
- 1:55:34grocery store, tapping right and it's like declined, and I'm like, what
- 1:55:40the fuck? And then I'm like, I come home and I realized,
- 1:55:43Oh, I sent myself an email money transfer from my other bank account.
- 1:55:49I just forgot to deposit it. Yeah, pretty much. Okay, So
- 1:55:58anyway it is, it is live now feed the Badger dot com slash support
- 1:56:00and again if you want to help me bite back against the Michael Floods of
- 1:56:04the world who seem to be hell bent and creating this narrative that human beings
- 1:56:12are awful, and men in particular, I mean. And the other thing
- 1:56:15is that even even if you I know what it does with men, presenting
- 1:56:19them as as oppressors, but ultimately it's such a contemptuous view of women that
- 1:56:26it's hard not to encourage people's contempt towards women on almost like a subconscious level.
- 1:56:32Yeah, okay, all right, let's let's keep let's let's do a
- 1:56:36little bit more. I did the segue Brian yea to school tomorrow because they're
- 1:56:42gonna be They're gonna be so Tatara and biology, but much longer. We
- 1:56:48have to go in earlier and well until what until the end of the whole
- 1:56:54segment segment? Well, I mean, okay, let's just watch it.
- 1:56:57Maybe maybe an no, we'll talk about how great well lives match. Let's
- 1:57:01match yeah, yeah, let's wear all le's match jackets. Okay, well
- 1:57:05match jackets. Oh we know where the same hat? Almost done? I
- 1:57:10think? Okay, how high do the levels of cringe have to be before
- 1:57:15you die of toxic shock? Asking for a friend? The thing is outside
- 1:57:20of the odd feminist? Does anyone actually care what you do in your personal
- 1:57:25life? I mean, I have questions, arguments and disagreements with women should
- 1:57:30submit to men as a general statement, But if you want to do that
- 1:57:31in your own personal relationship, it's none of my business and I don't care.
- 1:57:34Do what makes you happy. This just feels like you're looking for a
- 1:57:38reaction and some attention, wanting to provoke people into either getting mad or praising
- 1:57:42you. I feel like if you really didn't care, you would just get
- 1:57:45on with it and not make passive, aggressive videos about it. But okay.
- 1:57:48Also, I find it weird that you address your statement to single women
- 1:57:53implying that other women's lack of submission is the reason they're single, when he's
- 1:57:59at Pearl single. If you're going to be childish and trash enough to flex
- 1:58:02your own desirability over other women on the internet, maybe like back it up,
- 1:58:08produce a man to prove that you've won over these feminists that no one
- 1:58:12wants. What the hell like? Men is not winning? Okay? Yeah,
- 1:58:18I think that men are not a win condition. They're a companion.
- 1:58:24Good lord? Yeah no, but it's it it. I will say that
- 1:58:34the little TikTok thing was kind of cringeing. Okay, is it? Is
- 1:58:45it just the selection bias here? Because I feel like we've not attended to
- 1:58:47anything substantive aside from me and you going off there, Karen, I think
- 1:58:53we were talking about this basically is a Michael Flood episode suddenly yeah, well
- 1:59:00you know, well there's nothing particularly this is just a cat fight. It
- 1:59:05is I I'm uh, you want me to go to the the Red Pill
- 1:59:12does not Understand Femininity part? Maybe yes, okay, I'll jump to that.
- 1:59:17Maybe there was more the section that's like a little bit it's it is
- 1:59:24it's kind of petty, I know, but in a way. This is
- 1:59:27useful because this is exactly the kind of ship that we can avoid. So
- 1:59:33something in this large middle that like, if you guys are watching, character
- 1:59:40doesn't understand sex trafficking, and it goes on for a pretty long while.
- 1:59:45Let's just do what. Let's go to the big the big lump there,
- 1:59:50the big sugar lump. Yeah, the biggest sugar lump sort of in the
- 1:59:54middle. Yeah, there you go. No, no, no, no,
- 1:59:56the sex trafficking one. Just let's get a little sampler there, make
- 2:00:00sugar lump. Yeah, right there, big sugar all right, all right,
- 2:00:01I don't know what this is, so I haven't seen it, all
- 2:00:04right, and then he springs it on him with who his moodom so Andrew
- 2:00:08Tate says, you're not stupid, and he's talking to one of the victims.
- 2:00:11You're not stupid, and you can probably guess how I make so much
- 2:00:14money. I have to hide what I'm really doing. And the victim says
- 2:00:16webcam and he says, I've been doing this for a long time with a
- 2:00:19team of girls working on video chat. The company was fake, but this
- 2:00:24is how I laundered my dirty money. Some of the girls who worked for
- 2:00:28me, I use them to do other things, to move money or illegal
- 2:00:32things documents, and I will never do that with you. Basically titled the
- 2:00:36girl You're different from the others. I make them do the really illegal stuff.
- 2:00:41Again, they have it right good. He's been framed. Maybe the
- 2:00:46chat locks are fake and the matrix faked it and set him up. Maybe,
- 2:00:51but that's really hard to believe when all over various podcasts and in that
- 2:00:56video he constantly talks about how he lies to women to get to do what
- 2:01:00he wants, So why would that be any different. What's also fucking hilarious
- 2:01:04is how people say, how truthfully is a man of integrity? Oh he's
- 2:01:09always so honest. Oh god, this is about Andrew Taate. Okay,
- 2:01:13yeah, he's a flineball, he's a pimp. He I don't think he's
- 2:01:15a sex trafficker because I don't believe in women being in men's thrall. And
- 2:01:19also I have read some of the freakin' logs that have been submitted. That
- 2:01:25woman he's with, I think her name is Gabriella, Gabriel, Gabrielina or
- 2:01:30something. Holy shit, she's a psycho like I that that even just through
- 2:01:36the text logs of her Tate Tristan or sorry, Andrew Tristan and the other
- 2:01:45chick that Gabriel, Gabriel Gabriel. I think it's Gabriella or something something like
- 2:01:50that she is actually facing more charges than the Tate brothers, and having read
- 2:01:56the logs, I am not surprised because she sounds like these two dudes got
- 2:02:04a lot of very sketchy woman women and then they found one who was a
- 2:02:09bit too hot to handle because she is violent. Well, and anyway,
- 2:02:15I just put that out there. I don't I don't know anything in particular
- 2:02:19about Andrew Tate other than the fact that he was charged under the lover boy
- 2:02:25laws, right, which are basically seduction laws, and uh, and so
- 2:02:33I believe that those laws should probably not exist because if you're a woman of
- 2:02:43character, if you if you're not a sketchy woman, if you're not an
- 2:02:47if you're not a freaking gold digging hoore, you wouldn't fall for an Andrew
- 2:02:54Taate. Well, I don't think they should exist because they take like they
- 2:03:00essentially take away women's moral autonomy, or the recognition of women is morally autonomous.
- 2:03:06Yeah. No, if you if you were if you were not,
- 2:03:10if you had any kind of character, if you had any kind of morality,
- 2:03:14if you've had any kind of ethical center, if if you were not
- 2:03:16a gold dig and whore, you would not fall for someone like Andrew Tate.
- 2:03:23You wouldn't. Right, Increasingly women are becoming the type of women who
- 2:03:32would fall for an Andrew Tate. What what is the difference between Andrew Tate
- 2:03:40and Christian Gray Other than Andrew Tate rented out his bitch. Christian Gray is
- 2:03:48and so unbelievably creepily and violent and abusive. I guess maybe Andrew Tate is
- 2:03:56like that. I don't know anyway, this is talking about not even accusing
- 2:04:00Andrew Tate of being violent and abusive. I'm just saying, like brawl being
- 2:04:10incredibly wealthy, incredibly good looking, incredibly successful, looks absolutely stunning in a
- 2:04:18suit, super great, freaking nine dollars shoes. Okay, that that is
- 2:04:24those two men, right, very dominant. Okay, Yeah, I don't
- 2:04:31want to talk about You can't. You can't say Andrew Tait is not a
- 2:04:38product of the women around him when that fucking book Fifty Shades of Gray is
- 2:04:45more popular than Harry Potter. Okay, I got another super chow. I'm
- 2:04:51gonna read it and then we'll like maybe like, let you want to go
- 2:04:56to another hump in here. So Richard Bierre gives us ten dollars and says
- 2:05:02the vr Holo novel would be like the walking Tour of the Philippian Tubes as
- 2:05:06a walkthrough of women's slash feminist history that you did a while back. I
- 2:05:12think you're referring to, can we do like a virtual tour of some likes?
- 2:05:17Sort of insulting to be honest, Okay, I think he's trusting.
- 2:05:23I think he's just trying to be funny, Alison. Allow them to spur
- 2:05:25out, you know how they are. There's we need to do a hard
- 2:05:30stop at some point. Yeah. My bogs are going nuts, both of
- 2:05:35them. Yeah, okay, all right, I have satisfied myself with this.
- 2:05:40I don't want to go over Andrew Tate again as a topic. Red
- 2:05:44pill does not understand femininity. How about I just jumped in there and see
- 2:05:46what he said, Just do it. This is where I think red pillars
- 2:05:53are just dead wrong, Like pal Too, they just seemed to have the
- 2:05:58most shallow understanding of feminine Like from what I can see it's oh sweet,
- 2:06:01compliant submissive smells and keens. Are you dumb? Actually, don't answer that.
- 2:06:09I am sick of the constant, fucking flawed assumption of a starting point
- 2:06:13that femininity is submission that now seems to be taken for granted with red pillars,
- 2:06:17as if the conversation is over, it's decided. There's just no no.
- 2:06:21I think you have a flawed premise and that's why this is such a
- 2:06:26mess. I'm not going to go over it now. I've kind of talked
- 2:06:28about this quite a lot in quite a lot of other videos, and I
- 2:06:30plan to talk about it more in the future on what I think femininity is
- 2:06:34all means. But so my dad said something interesting during that conversation we had
- 2:06:39where I interviewed him for the Rider video, and this didn't make it in
- 2:06:41there, but we were talking about I asked him, we're talking about masculinity
- 2:06:47and femininity as like deeper forces from a spiritual perspective, and I ask him
- 2:06:54how he would sum up what he would boil the essence of femininity down to,
- 2:06:58and he immediately described as absorbent was kind of what he said, and
- 2:07:02I was immediately like, oh, that's interesting. I could have time to
- 2:07:08go to a now congress now probably video for an all the time. But
- 2:07:11yeah, I don't think I don't think he's I don't think he's wrong.
- 2:07:13And there's you know anyway. So though, so her father says that femininity
- 2:07:19is absorbent, I'm mostly just pausing for the banana, but I wanted to
- 2:07:24set that next bit up. I don't know she's gonna go into that little
- 2:07:27bit. You know why. You know why I think that femininity is absorbent,
- 2:07:33It's because of the young o Mommy, what the ommmy? Oh?
- 2:07:48Okay, So the description of the the was a Brazilian girl who was kidnapped
- 2:07:57by the Mommy tribe and she was raised by them and then rescued eventually as
- 2:08:07an adult, and she told her story and she described an attack on her
- 2:08:13tribe by the Karrotary, which was a rival tribe, and the Charroitary men
- 2:08:24basically killed all of the boys and all of the girls under maybe age eight
- 2:08:37or nine and all of the men and took all of the women and the
- 2:08:43eight plus girls hostage right, took them into their tribe right, and then
- 2:08:52they became Piotary. Well why did why did the carohitary, kill all of
- 2:09:03the all of the non productive dependent yan O mummy girls and all of the
- 2:09:13males because they're not absorbent. Right, well, the girls, the girls,
- 2:09:22they would be absorbent, but they are too much resource. They're resource
- 2:09:28hungry and they can't work, right, So they kill the girls. They
- 2:09:35kill all the males because the males are not absorbent. Yeah, they would
- 2:09:41not assimilate. They would remain Yano mummy and make trouble mm hm oh.
- 2:09:58And the and the and the young a mommy. They took refuge in a
- 2:10:01grotto right in a in a cave with water at the bottom of it,
- 2:10:07right, yeah, And they were hiding and the kiah Terry spotted one of
- 2:10:16them who was closest to the mouth of the cave, and he pointed his
- 2:10:22arrow at her and told her to come out. And she didn't just come
- 2:10:28out. She told them that there were other women and girls and children,
- 2:10:35right, women and girls and boys hiding in the cave. So then there's
- 2:10:41also I mean aunt that because that that makes that ingratiates you to the people
- 2:10:48who are now in charge of you, Okay, But as a counter to
- 2:10:52that, there's also the effect where women are radicalizing men, for example,
- 2:11:00in Islam's not sure and then but then the women will the women will often
- 2:11:05they'll radicalize their men. Their men will go off, they'll get killed,
- 2:11:09and then the women will be like, oh, I guess I was fucking
- 2:11:13wrong. Gotta survive now, yeah, yeah, to or got to be
- 2:11:20absorbent. That's being absorbed. Isn't it more than absorbent? It's absorbing?
- 2:11:28Okay? But anyway, uh okay, So I guess that's a that's an
- 2:11:33interesting point by this individual that women femininity dyes and so femininity is absorbent.
- 2:11:39We I mean, I'd have my own opinion on that, but well,
- 2:11:41we can wait. We can see if she expands on it. I got
- 2:11:46a super child from Zaranks. He gives us five dollars, but he doesn't
- 2:11:48say anything. So thank you for the for the five and I'm gonna make
- 2:11:54that go away. All right, Let's play some more. Let's say I
- 2:11:56want to see if she goes into it a bit but not submissive. And
- 2:12:01there is a distinction there, a subtle but very important one. You know,
- 2:12:05if you want to label its submission, then that's a conversation. You
- 2:12:09know, that's a conversation of the deeper sense of the word, but this
- 2:12:11shallow view submit, it's so annoying. I don't think that submission is about
- 2:12:18Also, if you are going to talk about it femininity, I don't think
- 2:12:22that it's in regards to the relationship with masculinity. If you're going to talk
- 2:12:26about feminy in those terms, femininity can exist on its own as a force,
- 2:12:30which necessarily makes it something other than its essence being defined by being dominated
- 2:12:35by the masculine. It's so stupid. If there was ever any deeper truth
- 2:12:39in that in any way, shape or form, I'm no longer even interested
- 2:12:43in having that conversation because, as far as I can tell, a big
- 2:12:46chunk of red pill people use the word submissive synonymously with inferior, less intelligent,
- 2:12:52less complex, and less human, and they throw it out there as
- 2:12:54a conversation, and then that means women should just shut up and know our
- 2:12:58place and do what we're told. It's just become a way to crap on
- 2:13:00women and use here. They should have everything their way and have to compromise
- 2:13:03on anything, because oh women submit. Okay, wait wait wait wait,
- 2:13:09I I on a one level, I agree with her and on other weather
- 2:13:13a level, I think she's going off in a very strange direction. This
- 2:13:18is something that I saw Andrew Tates say that women, this is women's nature.
- 2:13:24They can't be any other way. And I pointed out that that absolves
- 2:13:28women from moral responsibility. And yes, excuse me, I had to sneeze,
- 2:13:35I'm sorry I should have muted. But what the problem I have is
- 2:13:43when it isn't recognized that women have moral agents, like they have agency,
- 2:13:50and in the fact that we need to recognize it because there are certain aspects
- 2:13:54of power that women have that men don't have control over. So if women
- 2:13:58don't take responsibility for it, those will be the hooks that destroy our society
- 2:14:03because there's no one else to take responsibility for it. And the dialogue and
- 2:14:09the thing is, but the problem for me is that, yes, there
- 2:14:13are Andrew Tates to say that, you know, women, they have this
- 2:14:16kind of selfishness or focus on resources or whatever else, and they can't change
- 2:14:20that about themselves or they can't rise above it. There's that, but then
- 2:14:26there's also the attitude that women are not moral agents because all they do is
- 2:14:31good and if they do any bad, it's because they were in the thrall
- 2:14:35of a Man, which is interesting if you think about it, because on
- 2:14:39the one hand, you say you attribute it to women's nature and you say
- 2:14:43that they can't overcome their nature because that's just the way they are. And
- 2:14:46then the other way, you attribute it to men's nature and you say,
- 2:14:50well, women can't overcome it because men are so much more powerful than them.
- 2:14:54And in both ways you're actually taking away recognition of women as moral agents,
- 2:15:00as the having the ability to make these choices. You know, maybe
- 2:15:03there is a natural inclination to X, Y and z, but nature isn't
- 2:15:07destiny for humans anyway. That's what I wanted to point out. I don't
- 2:15:11think that's what she's getting at though, And I'd also like to point out
- 2:15:15that submission really the real word that it means is trust. Yeah, I
- 2:15:20think I think that. I was gonna say, I think it's like faith.
- 2:15:24You could put it that way, like if we're gonna put let's put
- 2:15:26it in religious context, I guess, or Christian context. Again an idea,
- 2:15:31because when what I think they're pulling from when they say women should submit,
- 2:15:37and I'm not talking about Andrew Tate's perspective per se but it's like,
- 2:15:41it's like it's it's like if you let's put it in a broader context,
- 2:15:48because I think that when people talk about that, they're speaking from a spiritual
- 2:15:56perspective. Okay, let's put it that, And she herself is saying that
- 2:16:00you asked her dad about this what women's nature is from a spiritual perspective.
- 2:16:05So we'll have to start with men. So I think that men are asked
- 2:16:09to you could say, submit to the to the transcendent, to the infinite,
- 2:16:16to God, okay, And what that means is to have faith in
- 2:16:20that. To have faith in that, it's like a blind faith. But
- 2:16:24the expectation is that why Why is that? Because the idea I think is
- 2:16:28is that if you run into problems or obstacles that you can control or affect
- 2:16:35the outcome on, then you do that. But if you run into things
- 2:16:37that you cannot control, then you have to be able to say, Okay,
- 2:16:45this isn't for me to do something about, because then you run the
- 2:16:48risk of behaving in a like selfish or unethical or even evil fashion because you're
- 2:16:54trying to change something that you don't have control over, like human nature.
- 2:17:00What, Yeah, you need to cope, and so like what is asked
- 2:17:03is that men have faith in that so that they don't try to rest it.
- 2:17:07And I think that again, this is just putting it purely in this
- 2:17:11sort of context. Women should have faith in men, So it's it's like
- 2:17:16having faith in them and supporting them. But that that but that also means,
- 2:17:22you know, working with them. I think someone said, and again
- 2:17:26I'm I'm sorry, but I'm using like sort of like biblical language, but
- 2:17:31that the reason why Eve was made from Adam's side so that she could stand
- 2:17:37by his side, right, So it's like symbolic in that way. So
- 2:17:41I think that she sees submission as something like close to slavery maybe or or
- 2:17:48some other way. But I don't think it's that. I think it's like
- 2:17:50you said, I think it's it's having faith or it's uh, you know
- 2:17:56what I mean. I'm looking at synonyms for the word submission, right,
- 2:18:03agreement, acceptance, consent, accession, compliance, presenting, proffering, tendering,
- 2:18:13proposing, introducing, suggesting, venturing, broaching, aiming, lodging,
- 2:18:22positing. Yeah, so, like I said, I think you submit,
- 2:18:31Okay, you submit when you accept the things that you can't change, you
- 2:18:37submit to reality, right, or you submit a job application or a report,
- 2:18:46Yeah, sure, right, or your opinion. Well, I mean
- 2:18:52it does make sense in the context of society. The outer shell of society
- 2:18:58is usually comprised of men because in many cases they're treated as more expendable,
- 2:19:01So men have to put their trust in any greater world cases. In every
- 2:19:11case, men are expendable relative to women, so they occupy the outer layer
- 2:19:16that protects the inner layer from the outer world. So men have to submit
- 2:19:20to the vagarities of the outer world, and women have to trust that men
- 2:19:26will form that shield between them and the outer world. That's necessarily And if
- 2:19:31you want to change that, ladies, then then take up arms for conception,
- 2:19:35take up arms ring the woman, the other women, the outer fucking
- 2:19:45rank b Brianna of Tarth, you know, Oh, don't even be Brian
- 2:19:50of Tarth, because you know, not everybody got to be a knight.
- 2:19:54Yeah. Most we're just foot soldiers with freaking leather jerkins. Yeah, put
- 2:20:01your money where your mouth is if you don't want Well, honestly, the
- 2:20:05thing is that men still occupy that position. They still are the guard that
- 2:20:11keeps society safe, and there's still the ones, and there's still the ones
- 2:20:16who keep the lights on, so they're still in that position. The only
- 2:20:20thing that's changed is that women are convinced themselves that they're doing it out of
- 2:20:24oppression of women, and that not being part of that is is somehow some
- 2:20:31exclusionary act of women. It's like it's most do you remember the speech that
- 2:20:41what's his name gives in a few good men right on the stand? Right,
- 2:20:48you know you can't handle the truth. The truth is that the world
- 2:20:54needs walls, and those walls need men, and those men need guns,
- 2:21:01right and whatever? Right, Okay, now that is true. The world
- 2:21:05needs walls, those walls need men. Okay, women, Okay. Feminists
- 2:21:13have basically said those walls, they've redefined them. Those are not walls to
- 2:21:20keep bad things out and away from the women. Those are walls to keep
- 2:21:28the women in. And all of the men with all of their guns standing
- 2:21:31on the wall on those walls are pointing their guns inward at the way.
- 2:21:37That's what they're saying. That's what they've redefined society as, because society is
- 2:21:43patriarchy. Society is ghinocentrism. Ghinocentrism is the women inside the walls. Patriarchy
- 2:21:50is the men on the outside of it and the man in the freaking tower
- 2:21:56giving the orders and sending men to die. That's what that's what society is.
- 2:22:03Right. Women have managed to convince everybody that this situation in which women
- 2:22:09are in the tower or in buildings in the inner bailey, right, you
- 2:22:18know they're protected. They're behind the walls, right, and they are safe
- 2:22:22from all of the cannon fire and all of the bullets and all of the
- 2:22:26freaking spears coming from the outside. Right. Their men are not protecting them.
- 2:22:33Their men are enslaving them, keeping them captive, and not allowing them
- 2:22:41to be free to just go out into the world, the perfectly safe world.
- 2:22:46Right. And the only reason they can actually translate it, redefine how
- 2:22:52things work in that way is because men did make the outside world safe.
- 2:22:58They make it safe for the most part. Yeah, once it becomes less
- 2:23:03safe, I think you're gonna see a resurgence of the Oh yeah, it's
- 2:23:07gonna be like zombie apocalypse. All the gender roles will be back and forth.
- 2:23:11Oh well, if you want to go forage for food, I'll stay
- 2:23:15a woman like boil some water. Oh, I'm just a delicate little woman.
- 2:23:22Yeah, let me watch your clothes. There, set of clothes need
- 2:23:30washing. Why don't you go hunt down the zombies and I'll get this laundry
- 2:23:35done. Yeah, that's what's gonna happen. Well, okay, women and
- 2:23:48women like me are honest enough to admit that, and that we will be.
- 2:23:52We would probably be. We would maybe be not on the outer ring,
- 2:23:58but on one of the inner rings. We wouldn't necessarily be hiding in
- 2:24:03the back in our bowers, right. We would be working. We'd be
- 2:24:07helping. We'd be like making food and keeping people fed, and like we'd
- 2:24:13be like even making armaments, maybe mending things, fixing things, all of
- 2:24:18that stuff. We'd be doing what it takes. Right. But I don't
- 2:24:22think i'd be on that outer wall unless I had to be making sandwiches.
- 2:24:28I would totally make so many need we need sandwiches on the front lines.
- 2:24:35Oh, and they'd be so good, I think I probably personally, I'd
- 2:24:41probably just be doing like compounding of herbs and stuff. Yeah, stuff like
- 2:24:46that necessarily not really the greatest physical ship. We'd be running the infirmary.
- 2:24:52We'd be, like we'd be we'd be doing all kinds of administrative tasks right
- 2:24:58to keep our soldiers fed and warm and uh and strong and healthy and all
- 2:25:05of that would be working as a team again. Right. It's just a
- 2:25:09shame that if it ever gets to that point again, it's all over because
- 2:25:16there won't be any more easy oil or coal. So yeah, I want
- 2:25:22to get to that point. I want to fix this ship. And the
- 2:25:24thing is that this is a very costly this is a very costly narrative to
- 2:25:28our society. But Brian has to go, So we should do the final
- 2:25:31superchowse. Let's do the final super childs and then new to your thank you,
- 2:25:35But first let's do the superchild. So this is from playing Dane,
- 2:25:41I think, uh yeah, and he USUS five dollars thank you playing Dane
- 2:25:45and says another example that supports my claim that loyalty is a masculine trade.
- 2:25:50New tribes, new language, new culture. This is why women are better
- 2:25:52at learning new languages. Disloyalty and wacophobia is more well, I guess he
- 2:25:58meant to say more feminine orgophobia. Sure, because it's like I can see
- 2:26:03that. I think that's honestly, I think that we're living in a culture
- 2:26:05that has almost completely excluded the masculine perspective and everything is feminized and it doesn't
- 2:26:11matter if there are men saying it or whatever. But I that's what I
- 2:26:15believe. I believe that the way, oh yeah, the way that we
- 2:26:18communicate has become like it's not masculine at all. So if a guy talks
- 2:26:24like guys do, they're going to get in trouble. I want to point
- 2:26:28something out to this. I want to point something out to this. What
- 2:26:31be it as it may. From my study of history, the source of
- 2:26:35any kind of new social cohesion seems to come as a result of women being
- 2:26:41loyal and sacrificing. So you have the Sabine women, you have the Christian
- 2:26:48martyrs forming this kind of cohesive force to a new concept of how men and
- 2:26:54women relate. Really, and so there's that, there is the general women.
- 2:27:01But you also have to consider that it's not like men really have an
- 2:27:07option when it comes to loyalty because if they aren't uh, and you know,
- 2:27:13if if they if they're there, there's their social system fails, they're
- 2:27:18dead, They're going to be killed. So they have to remain loyal to
- 2:27:24it because that's their only option. Really, if women have another option,
- 2:27:30often they'll take it. But then there are these points in history where women
- 2:27:33have actually themselves sacrificed themselves to express loyalty to something greater than themselves. And
- 2:27:41then what's interesting is some kind of social movement seems to form around that,
- 2:27:48and it's something that's recognized among like Islamist terrorists too, Like women who devote
- 2:27:54themselves up to the point of self sacrifice to the cause, motivate and provide
- 2:28:00a great deal more cohesion than male martyrs. It's like like female martyrs are
- 2:28:05worth ten male martyrs or something. So anyway, there's that's that's something to
- 2:28:11consider as well. Yes, it seems like the general mass of women have
- 2:28:16a different concept when it comes to loyalty, but there are some outliers who
- 2:28:20don't express that that same thing anyway, Go ahead, okay, next one,
- 2:28:26that's O great U. So Zara Anks, who gave us five dollars
- 2:28:30earlier and didn't say anything, said that he did send a message but didn't
- 2:28:33go through. So he tagged me in a post on the chat and says
- 2:28:37it's so convenient that what she'd have to say to contribute either exists elsewhere or
- 2:28:41doesn't make it into whatever discussion it's pertinent to sounds like Patreon material I roll
- 2:28:46emoji. Thank you for that. Yeah, I mean it would have been
- 2:28:52nice if she had like planned to talk about this stuff. I think what
- 2:28:56happened was that she had something in mind and didn't, like, you know,
- 2:29:01realize he was going to bring this other thing up, and was like,
- 2:29:03oh, I should probably go into that more later. I don't know,
- 2:29:07so, but thank you for the super Child. And then sleep auzsi
- 2:29:11bot Oops or sleep Ozzy rather gives us five dollars and says I can't wait
- 2:29:16to read your book. Last good fantasy book I read was Shad's Shadow of
- 2:29:20the Conqueror, but that was still not flattering in its views on men.
- 2:29:24I like Shad, but he is a conservative Christian. Well he's like part
- 2:29:28of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints. I think. So
- 2:29:31okay, so kind of an out there thing, but okay, go ahead,
- 2:29:35all right. Yeah, I wanted to thank you because sleep Bossy put
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- 2:29:58to a reason state of finishing through the process of editing, which is quite
- 2:30:03expensive but so far has been worth it. I wanted to say that I
- 2:30:07also enjoyed Shad's Shadow of the Conqueror. I think that it could have I
- 2:30:13think it could have used more editing. However, I will say that he
- 2:30:20is He's a good enough writer. He's one of the few YouTubers who've written
- 2:30:24something that I actually enjoyed. Uh And he's good enough that it was readable
- 2:30:31even without I think a developmental editor. So it was a good yarn.
- 2:30:37And like I said, I think there are some places where it could have
- 2:30:39been improved. Maybe the discussion of the magic system was a little bit excessive.
- 2:30:45I found it a bit excessive, but yeah, it was It held
- 2:30:50my interest to the end, which is about what I want a book to
- 2:30:52do. And no, I agree it wasn't didn't really have a flattering view
- 2:30:56of men, and that was really unfortunate. I think that he he glossed
- 2:31:03over some depth for his main male character that I saw would have been very
- 2:31:09interesting to explore. Hopefully you enjoy my book as well. It's probably gonna
- 2:31:13be quite a bit different than Shadow of the Conqueror a little bit, you
- 2:31:20know, a little bit not quite as Christian, shall we say? Yeah?
- 2:31:26Probably? Okay, all right, yeah, we gotta go. All
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- 2:32:28one more suit like Rumble rant. So from the Nova Fan twenty one shout
- 2:32:33out to the Rumble Gang gives us a dollar and he says, if she
- 2:32:35doesn't want men to think women submitting to men as being a slave to her
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