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Chuck in the Morning 8-18: Ryon Healy, Camp Battles, One Last Thing · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Vic chose this.
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  Speaker 3: Music for the Ryan Heeley intro, not Ryan, But I
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  Speaker 3: can't help but here like this disco kind of number,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't know why. I just picture Ryan Heeley
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  Speaker 3: on the dance floor, big collar button down to like
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  Speaker 3: his mid chest, showing off a little you know, clavical
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  Speaker 3: if you will, uh, and just tearing it up on
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  Speaker 3: the dance floor.
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  Speaker 2: Do you go there? Ryan? Is that where you go
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  Speaker 2: when you hear that music?
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  Speaker 4: Now, I feel like you visualize that way more than
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  Speaker 4: I've ever lived it.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the.
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  Speaker 4: Interesting way to start off my Tuesday morning. So thanks
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  Speaker 4: for that, Chuck.
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  Speaker 2: Are you much of a dancer? Do you dance?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I you want me at your wedding because I will
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  Speaker 4: get the dance floor going, yeah, look that.
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  Speaker 5: Good.
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  Speaker 6: But I'll I'll bring the vibes, you'll bring the energy.
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  Speaker 3: You'll bring the vibe, the right attitude, an attitude on it.
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  Speaker 3: The right attitude on a dance floor goes a long way.
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  Speaker 6: It really does, honestly.
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  Speaker 5: A little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Ryan Ealy is with us, a former Mariner, part of
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  Speaker 3: Mariner's TV and a big part of our show now
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  Speaker 3: here on Tuesdays at nine o'clock's talks some Mariners baseball.
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  Speaker 3: It looks all relaxed today. He's got you know, he's
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  Speaker 3: away from the desk. He's just laying into the conversation here,
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  Speaker 3: so let's dive in. It feels to us and compared
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  Speaker 3: to someone like you that lived this, made your living
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  Speaker 3: off of this, had to do the daily grind, but
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  Speaker 3: it feels to us that have not done that, that
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  Speaker 3: the team looked different, had a different energy, had a
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  Speaker 3: different spark. And I'm trying not to attach that just
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  Speaker 3: because you won two out of three games over the weekend,
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  Speaker 3: it did feel like there was urgency with this club
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  Speaker 3: and they just played with a little higher intensity. Were
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  Speaker 3: we imagining that or did you see the same thing?
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  Speaker 4: No, I saw the same thing, And I think your
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  Speaker 4: hesitation to attach like expectations coming in the future off
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  Speaker 4: of what we watched this weekend is is completely fair
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  Speaker 4: based off of what we've all witnessed this season from
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  Speaker 4: the team. I will tell you this, though, Chuck for
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  Speaker 4: three games in a row, I felt like I saw
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  Speaker 4: the version of the Mariners that we were all visualizing
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  Speaker 4: was going to show up for one hundred and sixty
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  Speaker 4: two games this year, even in the loss, the tough
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  Speaker 4: loss on Friday Night, Like that was the brand, the
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  Speaker 4: identity of Mariners baseball that we all thought this roster
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  Speaker 4: was constructed to do, and the execution of it was tremendous.
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  Speaker 4: I was blown away with the rookie debut, brock Rodden
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  Speaker 4: coming out, the professional at bats that he put together,
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  Speaker 4: the moment never feeling bigger than his preparation for those moments.
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  Speaker 4: And then I think for me, just as a player
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  Speaker 4: that went through a debut, having his family there, the
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  Speaker 4: camera's panting over to his parents' grandparents that drove down
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  Speaker 4: from Oklahoma. You know, there was a lot of things
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  Speaker 4: about that series that just felt right. And I guess
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  Speaker 4: now what we can do is hope that that brand
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  Speaker 4: continues to show up Milwaukee because they're about to step
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  Speaker 4: into one of the best baseball teams in Major League Baseball.
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  Speaker 4: This year and that brand and identity needs to show up.
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  Speaker 3: And they really have identified in Milwaukee. I mean, they
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  Speaker 3: want the Brock Rodden type, the third one. They don't
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  Speaker 3: spend a lot of money, so they got to win
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  Speaker 3: a little different way. They and the Tampa Bay Rays,
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  Speaker 3: and they found the way to win at least in
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  Speaker 3: the regular season. And you're gonna see like thirty eight
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  Speaker 3: rock Roddins tonight wearing Brewers colors in this game. But
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  Speaker 3: I'm wondering for a team that sat around and waited
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  Speaker 3: for the three run homer, can you change your identity?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if you've got Donovan back, and you've got
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  Speaker 3: Rodden in the lineup and a rookie who's got a
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  Speaker 3: lot more proving to do, you know, we're not going
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  Speaker 3: to declare him a fixture after three games.
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  Speaker 2: But even Roeblaze, who plays with that.
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  Speaker 3: Energy and that hair on fire kind of intensity when
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  Speaker 3: he's out on the mound, and sometimes it leads to
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  Speaker 3: some mistakes on the base paths. But those three guys
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  Speaker 3: are making up a third of your lineup on Friday
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  Speaker 3: and Saturday. Can they infuse their identity into the slugger
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  Speaker 3: identity that this organization has and perhaps create some harmony there.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, I believe that offense, particularly in baseball, and I
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  Speaker 4: think just rosters in general, can be a chameleon type
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  Speaker 4: where when you're put in an environment of a brand
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  Speaker 4: of baseball that you actually enjoy watching from the dugouts perspective,
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  Speaker 4: you're like, Ooh, what's he doing differently? What can I
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  Speaker 4: do in my bat that might take myself to the
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  Speaker 4: next level? And I think for me, Chuck, the big
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  Speaker 4: separator here is the brand of baseball the Mariners have played,
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  Speaker 4: have been successful within the past. Has it worked this season?
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  Speaker 4: Like there isn't a of Cal Rowley hitting sixty home
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  Speaker 4: runs this year. Julio has been, you know, consistently himself
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  Speaker 4: in different spurts, having a great month of August, had
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  Speaker 4: a great month to May when he was that version
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  Speaker 4: of himself. The Maritors are so much better, Josh Naylor
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  Speaker 4: splug in a little bit more.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously Cal did hit a hall run over the weekend.
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  Speaker 4: But I think when when something's not working as a
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  Speaker 4: baseball player, you're willing to try anything, and then when
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  Speaker 4: you have a couple of guys step in your lineup,
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  Speaker 4: Like to your point, he talked about Rod, and he
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  Speaker 4: talked about Donovan, even Victor Roblest stepping in there and
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  Speaker 4: being able to, you know, to execute and grind out
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  Speaker 4: tough at that's the rest of the boys rally around him,
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  Speaker 4: like we can do that too, Like that, that's not
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  Speaker 4: that's not super hard. That can change my My focus
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  Speaker 4: is something simple, Let me just win this next pitch.
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  Speaker 4: I felt like this Marritor's team looked more present and
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  Speaker 4: focused on what the task at hand was in any
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  Speaker 4: given moment for every single inning of every single game
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  Speaker 4: this weekend that I've seen all season, and I was
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  Speaker 4: still blown away with the execution. It just how simple
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  Speaker 4: the game looked, and you know how bullpen pitchers were
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  Speaker 4: able to step into high pressure, leverage roles and execute
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  Speaker 4: us or Anthony Dimingez came in and got a massive outlet,
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  Speaker 4: bases loaded in two outs, executing a two strike slide
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  Speaker 4: or a splitter there. I felt like players were able
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  Speaker 4: to fall into their roles because there was enough guys
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  Speaker 4: on the roster doing their jobs on those on those games.
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  Speaker 3: Should we be excited about that or should we be
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  Speaker 3: angry that it took this long to show up.
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  Speaker 4: I think we have plenty of time to be angry, Took.
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  Speaker 4: I've been racking my brain about this a little bit
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  Speaker 4: of where I stand because I'm about to step into
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  Speaker 4: twelve games of you know, color commentating over the next
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  Speaker 4: few weeks. I think there's so much time in the
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  Speaker 4: offseason to be mad about things that didn't go right,
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  Speaker 4: and I think for me, as a former player and
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  Speaker 4: a current fan of Major League Baseball and a big
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  Speaker 4: fan of the Mariners, I just want to enjoy the moments.
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  Speaker 4: I just want to enjoy the game. I want to
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  Speaker 4: enjoy the team, and I want to hope that there
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  Speaker 4: is a chance that maybe they have the opportunity to
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  Speaker 4: go to the postseason. Whether it happens or not, I
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  Speaker 4: just want to enjoy kind of day in and day out,
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  Speaker 4: the grind of what this season is, what this time
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  Speaker 4: of the year is, because at some point it ends,
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  Speaker 4: whether they win the World Series or not, Like this
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  Speaker 4: season will end and we're all going to miss baseball
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  Speaker 4: and we can be really mad and blame people and
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  Speaker 4: point fingers then, but I think at this point in time,
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  Speaker 4: it's just time to really enjoy the moment. I hope
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  Speaker 4: the Mariners are being by example what they did in
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  Speaker 4: Houston this weekend.
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  Speaker 3: Ryan Heally is with us every Tuesday at nine o'clock
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  Speaker 3: to talk to some Mariners baseball. They're in Milwaukee. Sounds
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  Speaker 3: like he's in Milwaukee. Mark twice, if you're in Milwaukee.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you're not. You're there, You're not going to be there.
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  Speaker 4: Oh No, I'm on vacation. That's why I'm super super
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  Speaker 4: relaxed ate now. I'm actually in Delmark, California, the beach
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  Speaker 4: for the last week. It's our last day.
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  Speaker 2: So when do your twelve games start? Then that you're
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  Speaker 2: going to this Friday?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so I drive home, we drive home Wednesday, I
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  Speaker 4: fly out Thursday, and I'll be on TV on Friday.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, great, well we look forward to that.
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  Speaker 3: Let me ask you, based off of our conversation thus far,
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  Speaker 3: Brendon Donovan, you've been around him. I mean, it's impossible
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  Speaker 3: not to like him. He's got like this sweetness about
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  Speaker 3: him and yet this sternness about him, and he's got
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  Speaker 3: some like military leadership qualities about him. Can he turn
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  Speaker 3: into the leader of this team? Can can a super
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  Speaker 3: utility player who's only been here, you know, a half
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  Speaker 3: a season, who's been on the injury list most of
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  Speaker 3: the year can his identity ruboff on this team because
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  Speaker 3: he played well this weekend and it may have contributed
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  Speaker 3: to how the team played this weekend, you know, where
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  Speaker 3: they kind of took on his personality a little more
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  Speaker 3: than in the past. Is there a chance that with
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you and I have talked about leadership struggles
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  Speaker 3: and Kyl can't be a leader because he can't as
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  Speaker 3: much as he could in the past because he can't
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  Speaker 3: figure out his own game. Could have Brendan Donovan kind
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  Speaker 3: of take over that role for the rest of the season.
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  Speaker 2: Is that even doable?
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  Speaker 4: Before I answered that question, I'm gonna tell you that
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  Speaker 4: I disagree with your statement there. Cal Rawley is still leader. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and he's leading because right now his relationship with failure
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  Speaker 4: is so close. But he's the same guy every day
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  Speaker 4: if you get a chance to observe him interacting with
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  Speaker 4: teammates and the dugout in the locker room, like that's
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  Speaker 4: the same guy. Yes, he's battling things up top mentally
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  Speaker 4: and physically with his swing, but like that dude is
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  Speaker 4: still a leader. He shows up every day, he posts
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  Speaker 4: for his team, he grinds, and like he's still leader.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm never gonna discredit what Cal Rowley brings to
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  Speaker 4: this team to your point of Brendan Donovan, though, yes,
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  Speaker 4: there's no doubt in my mind that his impact is
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  Speaker 4: greater than just what he does on the field. That's
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  Speaker 4: why he was brought to the Seattle Mariners. That's why
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  Speaker 4: Jerry Depoto and Justin Hollander went out and got him,
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  Speaker 4: is because they knew the type of human being that
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  Speaker 4: he was before the player even mattered. And that's why
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  Speaker 4: I believe that him being injured so much this year
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  Speaker 4: has affected this team negatively and it's out of his control.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't want to be hurt. He didn't want to
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  Speaker 4: miss all that time. There's front office, players, coaches, fans
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  Speaker 4: that are upset that he missed so much time. But
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  Speaker 4: he can't control that and he knows that. And if
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  Speaker 4: you listen to his interviews, he's so genuine with his answers,
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  Speaker 4: where a lot of people can be more guarded blanket statements, players, personnel, whatever,
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  Speaker 4: he's so truthful. Talked about the story of how he
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  Speaker 4: had a buddy go pick up a with a ball
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  Speaker 4: and with the ball back to work on two strike
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  Speaker 4: approach in the hotel room. Like you don't just share
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  Speaker 4: that type of story unless it's just like it means
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  Speaker 4: something to you. And I love that he rubs off.
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  Speaker 4: And I think there's two different ways to be a leader.
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  Speaker 4: You can be a vocal leader or you can just
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  Speaker 4: lead by example. I think Cal's probably the more vocal
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  Speaker 4: leader just in that locker room of what he's meant
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  Speaker 4: to this organization. But I also believe that Brendan Dooman
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  Speaker 4: leads by example the way he shows up every day,
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  Speaker 4: the way that he works, the way that he grinds,
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  Speaker 4: the way that he has a relationship with failure and
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  Speaker 4: responds to it. I think there's a room for both
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  Speaker 4: in this equation in this team, and I think the
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  Speaker 4: impact of Brendan Donovan is starting to be seen finally
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  Speaker 4: this twenty twenty six season.
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  Speaker 2: How big a part of your childhood was wiffleball?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, That's where my love for the game developed. Actually,
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  Speaker 4: we used to take our fifth wheeler up to Ventura
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  Speaker 4: Beach and my dad and I would play woofball on
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  Speaker 4: the beach all day every day. And I was maybe
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  Speaker 4: two or three years old, and he would hit it
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  Speaker 4: really far and go chase down and get it, and
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  Speaker 4: I would hit like that's where I fell in love
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  Speaker 4: with the game of baseball. And my son, who's two
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  Speaker 4: and a half now, like, we're starting to play some
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  Speaker 4: whootball in the backyard and a lot of those memories
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  Speaker 4: come flooding back, and it's pretty special.
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  Speaker 2: It's just the greatest game.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, I think the whole team should
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  Speaker 3: have a waffle ball game if it helped Brendan Donovan
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  Speaker 3: that much. Just everybody just take some woffleball practice. Well,
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  Speaker 3: let's get out there, let's play some waffle ball America's game.
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  Speaker 3: Ryan Healy is with us here on the radio program.
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  Speaker 3: I did want to I mean, this is the question
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  Speaker 3: that I was looking forward to talking to you most about.
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  Speaker 5: There.
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  Speaker 2: There's been an article trending a little bit that I
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  Speaker 2: don't even know who reported it.
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  Speaker 3: I probably should have had that information, but apparently anonymously,
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  Speaker 3: a player for the Mariners had suggested that the team
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  Speaker 3: offensively has been on a crossroads this entire year with
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  Speaker 3: the hitting philosophy and maybe caught in between what feels
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  Speaker 3: right in what they're being taught to do. I want
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  Speaker 3: to ask you about that. Do you get the impression
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  Speaker 3: that this team and it's offensive woes this year. At
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  Speaker 3: any point did you get the impression that it could
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  Speaker 3: be chalked up to they seem to be caught in
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  Speaker 3: between what they feel is comfortable and what they're being
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  Speaker 3: taught to do.
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  Speaker 4: I have a lot of information on this and what
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  Speaker 4: I can share I will. I also went through this
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  Speaker 4: a ton, and I'll summarize it for you like this, Chuck.
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  Speaker 4: There is two brands or identities of hitting that exists
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  Speaker 4: professional baseball right now. One is highly analytical, highly you know,
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  Speaker 4: motor preference, a lot of sensors and things on your body.
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  Speaker 4: Every sling taken in the cage is you know, calculated
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  Speaker 4: by different things to make sure that you're in the
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  Speaker 4: best positions. A ton of information and breakdowns of pitchers, repertoires,
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  Speaker 4: you know, pitches and counts. And then there's also this
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  Speaker 4: old school mentality that exists, you know, seatball, hit ball,
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  Speaker 4: you know, hammer, the opposite field, the opposite field gap,
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  Speaker 4: whatever it might be like. There are there are two
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  Speaker 4: opposite end spectrums that exists in base are in hitting
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  Speaker 4: the offensive approach. And I think that I was the part.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think I know that I was a part
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  Speaker 4: of a turnover for the Mariners of twenty eighteen was
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  Speaker 4: more of a simplistic, old school mindset. Twenty nineteen, they
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  Speaker 4: brought in more analytical personnel to kind of hammer the
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  Speaker 4: p's and ques. Over the last year and a half
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  Speaker 4: two years. When that personnel was exited and then Edgar
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  Speaker 4: Martinez brought back in, Dan Wilson was brought back in,
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  Speaker 4: it was way more of a simplifying it back down
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  Speaker 4: if that works for a long time. And I think
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  Speaker 4: there's been a little bit of a push and pull
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  Speaker 4: this season of guys that enjoy the simplicity, but when
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  Speaker 4: it's not working, they don't have much to lean on
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  Speaker 4: or things to go to, and then guys that might
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  Speaker 4: be craving a little bit more information. Who exactly needs
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  Speaker 4: more or doesn't need more, or who needs less. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know that I'm not in that batting cage in
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  Speaker 4: that locker room every day, but I do know that
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  Speaker 4: the hardest part of professional baseball is having someone that
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  Speaker 4: can translate the high level numbers the analytics down into
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  Speaker 4: a player's perspective understanding of how to implement and apply it.
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  Speaker 4: And that is a secret that some teams have figured out.
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  Speaker 4: Some teams haven't. I don't know exactly with the Mariners
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  Speaker 4: where they lie with that internally on the offensive side,
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  Speaker 4: but I do know that that is a really hard
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  Speaker 4: gap to bridge down to help the players understand it,
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  Speaker 4: because players understand things from their perspective. Like I've learned
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  Speaker 4: more about hitting since I've retired coaching a bunch of
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  Speaker 4: different hitters, and I did when I just played because
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  Speaker 4: I was just worried about myself. Like these players are
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  Speaker 4: just trying to figure out what works for them, and
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  Speaker 4: if the language isn't being communicated or isn't working more importantly,
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  Speaker 4: then you start to lose some confidence and conviction in it,
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  Speaker 4: and you're craving more or different perspectives. And that can
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  Speaker 4: be really helpful, Chuck, or it can also be really
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  Speaker 4: a hurtful. It's a really fine line you're dancing on
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  Speaker 4: the offensive side, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, getting ready to face the Milwaukee Brewers.
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  Speaker 3: I think this last question kind of brings our entire
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  Speaker 3: conversation full circle. The Brewers play small ball, and they
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  Speaker 3: play it better than anybody, and they win as consistently
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  Speaker 3: as anyone, and that includes the Los Angeles Dodgers in
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  Speaker 3: the regular season, but once they get to the playoffs,
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  Speaker 3: they can't win a playoff game, they can't win a
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  Speaker 3: playoff series.
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  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the Mariners.
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  Speaker 3: Are built for the three run homer and for great
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  Speaker 3: starting pitching, and a lot of times a lot of
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  Speaker 3: Marinder fans pull their hair out, like, why aren't we
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  Speaker 3: moving that runner? Why aren't we right now? We're just
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  Speaker 3: sitting around waiting for the three year run homer? Do
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  Speaker 3: we not have another way to score runs? You're a
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  Speaker 3: power hitter. I'm sure you are on teams that used
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  Speaker 3: you as an island in the middle of the order
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: with maybe one or two other guys. But where do
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: you come from in terms of the balance that a
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: team should have at the professional level regular season and
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: postseason between waiting for the three run homer and manufacturing
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: runs when you can't hit it.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you this chuck from the hitters perspective, the
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: approach changes when there is a runner on second or
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: third base compared to a runner on first or base ZMP.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: As a power guy, it was a run on first base,
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: I have to drive a ball in the gap or
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: over the wall to score him. If there's a runner
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: on second base, I can actually simplify what my approach
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: is knowing that a single or well executed ball, you know,
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, can drive that run in. And
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: it's interesting. This weekend, I felt like I saw more
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: aggressive base running, meaning I saw Julio jd on first
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: base and then steal the first pitch. Like that changes
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: the approach entirely as a hitter saying in the batter's
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: box because now I don't have to do damage to
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: score that run. So I think for me, like traffic
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: on the base pass is step one here, and then obviously,
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: how do we get those runners into score and position
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: so that the approach can be simplified. I love what
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: Brendan Donovan talked about was, you know, his approach and
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: his discipline, the pride he takes with runners in scoring position,
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: and his ops. If you saw the article about how
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: good he's been in his career and maybe not so
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: great this season, but not a large sample size, that's
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: someone that knows how to just kind of choke and
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: poke and put a ball in play. Brock Rawdon had
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: two of the best at bats that I've seen in
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: this entire season, runner scoring position to the bat to
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: hit a fly ball to left field to score the runner.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: The third base, like the approach doesn't need to be
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: more than let me put the ball in play and
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: as a hit or when when your baseline, your focus
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: is there, when something magical happens like a home running,
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: it was an accident, And I've believe the Mariners should
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: be in that place right now because the amount of
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: time they've spent trying to hit home runs this year.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: It didn't work. You got to try something different. So
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: I do believe that the importance of getting runners in
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: scoring position can work to the offenses benefit because now
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: your job as a hitter is so much simpler.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: We have mistaken individual games or special moments as something
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: to build off of of momentum and only to find
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: out that no, they weren't ready to get where they
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: wanted to be. Is it different this time? Do you
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: feel like this weekend that maybe some alarms went off
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: and that they're ready to rattle off a great finish
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: to this season.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: I think the beauty of this is we don't know.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: And if you remember the conversation that we had with
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: Kevin Pollar last Alcs when they're playing the Blue Jays,
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: we asked them about momentum and how is momentum transferred
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: in playoff series as a carryover game to game, and
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: he kind of said, the clock restarts every day, and
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: I believe that this time of season it feels like
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: a playoff race because every game is important and they
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: have to manufacture and create their own momentum from pitch one.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: And for me, whoever the tone setter is at the
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: top of the lineup, you know that first at bats,
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: that's a tone and momentum can transfer, you know, inning
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: to inning throughout the course of the game. And it's
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: their job, their responsibilities, the Mariners, to create their own
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: momentum that they can carry into the next opportunity to
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: nexit back. Here's one really positive thing, Chuck about them
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: playing the Brewers this weekend. They're not facing Jacob Mazarowski. Yeah,
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: so they're not They're not facing one of the scariest
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: arms in Major League Baseball. So if I'm a hitter,
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: I'm excited about that for certain, but also willing to
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: tackle the responsibility of let's go find a way to
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: create some momentum today.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we missed them is so that's a good thing,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: So who was the batter that you always tried to
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: be in the backyard then, or on the beach with dad.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Who did you who's batting stance? Did you mimic who
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: were you trying to be out there on the wiffle
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: ball field?
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: I think Pool Hosts was always at the top of
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: the list like that. I definitely went through phases when
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: I was struggling as a hitter where I would spread
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: out and just try to mimic pool Hosts as much
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: as possible. I'd say that's a hitter that I watched
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: the most growing up.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, very good, all right, man, Well, enjoy
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: some vacation time with the family. Can't wait to hear
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: you on Friday and for a few games here coming up.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: And we appreciate your time.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: Here today, you guys.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: So all right, Ryan Heley joining us every Tuesday at
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: nine o'clock and he will be on the call starting
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: this Friday, so Mariners will continue that conversation.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: That was great, wasn't it wasn't that interesting? Yeah?
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: I like his discussion regarding the approach change when when
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: there's different guys on the and then like and.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: I love that a power hitter can say like, yeah,
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: we should be playing more small yeah, yes, yeah, I
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: mean just sitting around and waiting for me to come through.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: You know, first of all, let's get guys on base.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Yes, then and then we'll worry about approaches and stuff
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: But it starts with getting eyes on base.
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: Well, and it's yes, you're right, and everyone looks at
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: the RSP numbers, and yes, while the the the average
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: with RSP can look a lot lower than you expected to.
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: The biggest thing is they're not getting enough opportunities with
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: runners in scoring position because they're not even they're either
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: getting walks or singles, and then they're just they're hitting
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: double plays and they're getting out of it.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: But I like what he said about the aggressive base
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: running too. Get the guy to second base, and I'm
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: all for that, And that was part of the weekend exactly.
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: And that's that's the first step before you even can
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: do the get them over and get them in sort
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: of things.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: They look like a team that wanted to get the
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: second base the moment they got to first. They look
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: like a team all weekend long that wanted to get
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: the second and third they can take the extra base
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: on a single or right like that?
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? Wow, Oh, I hope it's real, I hope.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: So all right, coming up next, it's camp battle time,
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: my last camp. It's not like we're going to bury
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: this conversation, but it's it's a ceremonial thing. Sports Radio
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: ninety three point three k j R f M.
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  Speaker 8: One man leaves man.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, I had to hear team I belt it out
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: one last time. Training camp coverage. Training camp coverage is
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: hands right off.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: The preseason coverage. We're going to talk a lot of
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Saux football no matter what time of year it is.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: But training camp coverage delivers to us talk of camp
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: and camp battle, camp battle.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Not every day, but most every day.
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: Two men enter, one man leaves leave.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: And today, because of what happened on Saturday, our final
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: camp battle is going to center on the linebacker position,
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: not the mic. Make that very clear, as Ernest Jones
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Hugh Millen made it very clear. Tyres Night was not
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: playing the mic on Saturday, but he was making every
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: play on the football field on Saturday.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: He was, according to Mike.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: McDonald, the best player on the field on Saturday.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: So does that mean anything?
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: You know, these preseason games are so you know, we're
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: led to believe that there's something to them, and yet
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: we also are reminded don't pay any attention to them. Well,
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: so where is the happy ground here when evaluating preseason performances. Well,
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: I asked Greg Bell at seven o'clock, our Seahawks insider,
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: did tyresee Knights play on Saturday? Is it maybe pushing
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: him closer to challenging Drake Thomas for more playing time
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: there at offline?
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: Yes? And I saw yesterday in practice that Knight was
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: in with the ones a little more at the weekside
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: linebacker spot than he had been before the game. That's
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: how McDonald rolls. If you produce in games, you get
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: a chance. And that's how Drake Thomas got his job
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: producing when Tyres Knight was injured this time last year.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: So absolutely, and he wants the locker room to feel
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: that way that, Hey, if you perform, we're going to
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: give you a shot. If you do your job and
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: we put you in and excel, you're going to get
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: another shot. And if you don't, you're gonna be Jean Charles,
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: You're gonna be TJ. Harden. You're gonna be Jones, the
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: other rookie running back who both got cut yesterday after
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: just running into brick walls at the goal line on
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: three straight plays.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Ask Greg Bell from earlier if you want to hear
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: the entire conversation. He gets into the running back Jadarian
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Price story and many other things at ninety three to
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: three KJR dot com. Man For me, it really is
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: one of the most difficult things to evaluate in the
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: entire year, calendar year, what we do for a living,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: and you know we're wrong a lot.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Hopefully we're right enough enough to keep you coming back.
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: I know that I and many others, most others, if
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: not all others, do our best to try to have
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: the best take possible on that given sports day. But
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: there are some things that just maybe beyond your skillty,
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: and this is one of them. I don't know how
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: to read preseason performances. It's one of the aggravating things
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: about still having NFL preseason games. I know that they
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: help teams identify the last few spots on the roster,
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: but is anybody really going to gain considerable playing time
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: because of how they played in a preseason game. Is
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: anybody gonna make up true ground on the person that
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: they are chasing based off of preseason games if they
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: weren't just nipping at their heels to begin with, is
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: anybody really going to make up that ground, because, let's
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: face it, as Aaron Rodgers said, it's not real football, Like, yeah,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: they're playing at full speed, but the coaches aren't coaching
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: in them at full speed. You're not running the plays
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: that you want anybody else to see. You aren't playing
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: the players that you really want to play. So as
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: we're trying to figure out last couple spots on the
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: roster whether or not this guy should earn more playing
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: time this year, I mean, he's doing it against second
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: string competition, and maybe the game completely changes if tyresee
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Knight's facing first string offensive players on Saturday, which he wasn't.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: So it's just really hard to evaluate.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: I will just say this, he was everywhere and he
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: made every play, and those are pretty good traits having
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: a linebacker, that's for sure. And I can tell right
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: off the bat, he's bigger than the guy that he's
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: behind on the depth chart. He's stronger than the guy
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: he's behind on the depth chart, he's faster than the
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: guy he's behind on the depth chart. But that other
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: guy just out maneuvers him on the football field and
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: I don't think that Drake Thomas's job Andrews is gonna
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: be an easy one to wrestle away. I think he's
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: just one of those guys that gets what Mike McDonald
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: wants out of his position. He makes, he makes the plays.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: He kept getting better last year as the season progressed,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: and I hope that is the case for Tyres Knight
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: this year. And if he takes that job away from him,
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: trust me, he's going to have earned it. And so
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: I think that there's a chance at it. But it's
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: really hard for me to take Saturday, And I don't
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: know how much weight to apply to this conversation because
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Tyree Night was the best player in a preseason football game.
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, the ironic thing about this situation is
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: this is exactly how Drake Thomas won the job. It's
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: literally the exact same way, right, So maybe I take
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: a little more stock in it then then I might
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: have before, just considering that Mike McDonald has shown that
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: he values these kind of performances. But I think the
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: reason why preseason football is so hard to evaluate, as
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: you're saying, is because many coaches treat it differently. It's
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: some and some coaches treat it differently from game to game,
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: from year to year. You never know if this is like, hey,
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: I'm really looking at all the plays and this is
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: as close as we're going to get to, you know,
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: live football in week one, or if this is literally
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: just a going through the motions and other practice. So,
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: I mean, I do think that they practice what they
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: preach in terms of you know, Pete would always say,
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: always compete, but that wasn't always the case, right, you
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: knew who your guys were, and there were instances, you know.
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: I think that comes to mind originally is the Drew
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: Locke versus Gino Smith thing that was never a competition,
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: that was supposed to be a competition right a couple
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: of years ago. So that being said, I think Mike
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: McDonald's different. I think he obviously is easy to just
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: play the guy who produces, and even if it's not
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: the guy that you drafted higher, even if it's not
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: the guy that you paid a bunch of money.
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: Oh god, yeah, it's just it's kind of how he
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: does it.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, just think about how odd that this
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: is if a coach was really being honest going into
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: a preseason game and he gets up there in front
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: of them trying to fire up the troops, and he's
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: just like, all right, gentlemen, we don't care if we
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: win or lose, it matters.
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: Just don't get injured.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: N Oh sure, anytime you have a chance to win
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: a game, you want to take that win because you
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: want to establish winning culture. But the key is not
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: to get injured. So play hard, but not so hard
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: that we injure any of the guys that we really value. Okay, now,
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: the offense that you'll be facing, defensive guys, they're going
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: to play second string guys and the worst place in
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: their playbook. So what I want you to do is
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: play your best to earn playing time while I also
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: send in the weak calls to our defense. And once
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: you've beaten a second stringer running a vanilla offense for
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: the pleasure of all of the people that we've forced
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: to pay full price for the tickets that they have,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah right, jeez, we will evaluate you according to that.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Now go get them.
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: Well, the other aspects you have to think about this
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: is the Drake Thomas active who buy his own Merit,
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: didn't play because they wanted to keep him fresh. But
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: then if you're thinking that Tyree Knight has a chance
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: to go and prove himself as the starter. Shouldn't Drake
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: Thomas have a chance to go improve himself to keep
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: his starting job. At the same time, there's all these
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: dynamics going on. So if you think Tyree Knight can
• 31:17
  Speaker 7: go earn a spot from a preseason game, then you
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: should also think that Drake Thomas, if they're resting him,
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: they feel like his job is pretty safe at this point.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Listen up, folks, Eyes here, gentlemen, eyes here. None of
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: you have a chance to take Leonard Williams job.
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they'd probably be like gos for Spoon, Love Jsen.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: And pretty much twenty three of this twenty two starters
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: that we have.
• 31:49
  Speaker 9: Yes, now go get him. This means nothing, oh makers proud.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: It's an interesting dynamic, Yes it is, well, I will well,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: there's stuff to learn, there's stuff too gleaned.
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: White people don't like the preseason.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: There's no question. I don't think we need it anymore.
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: I don't think anything.
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: One last thing is next Sports Radio ninety three point
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: three KJRFM. Alright, final segment of the radio program here today,
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: and yes, we close it out with one last thing
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: here on the show. Ashley Ryan out today, anders Hurst
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: is in.
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: But he knows the drill.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: He knows how to do one last thing I do indeed, Yeah,
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: so get it done.
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: There's been a lot of media coverage surrounding the NFL
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: Top one hundred lists, and of course that's what they want.
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: They want everyone to talk about it. They do it
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: before any of the big storylines of the season kind
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: of come out. Sam Donald got put at number twenty one,
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: and it's just everyone's up in arms about, Oh, it's
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: so overrated. It's just because he won a Super Bowl
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: and he was the starting quarterback. And I just want
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: to pooh pooh the idea that this is the most
• 33:23
  Speaker 7: egregious pick of the NFL Top one hundred that we've
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: ever seen, because the way it's being portrayed by some
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: national media outlets is that's what it's being shown as,
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: and I just completely disagree with that. Now, do I
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: think he's the twenty first player best player in the NFL?
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: Probably not, But it's far less egregious than some other
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: entries that we've had, probably far less egregious than some
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: others on this specific list this year.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: Sojamal Adams used to be on this. I know, Like,
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: first of all, it's the he shouldn't be twenty. No,
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: he's not the twenty first player in the game. Uh,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: he shouldn't be raided sixteenth on like some of these
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: other lists.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: A quarterback.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: No, but no one should be getting upset with the
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: NFL Network's Top one hundred players because it's filled out
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: by players and none of them fill it out, like
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: they hand it off to like the shoeshine boy and
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: then that guy fills it out for them. So like,
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: it's no one's paid attention to this list in years,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: So why would anybody get upset by it?
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: Because there's nothing else to talk about during the NFL
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: offseason when list season, it's list.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Season season to get all upset and bothered by stuff.
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: So I just wanted to throw out there that yes,
• 34:41
  Speaker 7: I agree that he's not the twenty first best player,
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: but I also think people can go far too much
• 34:45
  Speaker 7: the other direction where it's like, oh, he's just getting
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: carried by this this roster, and like there were multiple
• 34:52
  Speaker 7: games where the Seahawks needed Sam Donald to be elite
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: last year, including the NFC Championship game.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: By the way, and there's also that there's that element.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so few people especially that have taken such large stances, yes,
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: that they can never then back them off because they
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: think that makes them look weak even though they're weak.
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: You're allowed to change your mind people.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Right, and players are allowed to get better, yes, and
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: and change our minds yes.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: So I mean there's no.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Doubt Sam Darnold had been a failure in the National
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Football League, is the third overall pick, but something changed,
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Something clicked in Minnesota based off of what he learned
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: in San Francisco and Carolina, and through failure with the Jets.
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: He's had two straight years of fourteen and three. Then
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: he got regular season, he.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Got around better players, and he got better things started
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: to click in his head, and then he got here.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: And I'm telling you right now, for all of those
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: that are anti Sam, because they can't let go of
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: the fact that they got a tattoo that says Sam
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Darnald sucks, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, there so many
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: or he went so far down that road, including analysts, professional.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Football people who should be better at this. They went.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: So they just can't allow themselves to think that maybe
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: he is a different player. He's a different player, yes,
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: and he's a very good player. And I got news
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: for you, he's got a lot more upside.
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: I agree.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, he got better, can sling it? Yes, make
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: no mistake. He was a third overall pick for a reason.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: That dude's got arm, talent and enough athleticism and obviously
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: the leadership is just off the charts. And now he's
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: finally in a really comfortable place with who he is,
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: who he surrounded with, and how to play quarterback. I mean,
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: there is a very good chance he's going to be significantly.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Better this year.
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: I agree, totally agree.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: And then what will they say.
• 36:54
  Speaker 7: They'll still say that. I know he's still the same
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: same down from New York.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: I'm nineteen, so he sucks rapper.
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: I can't see it any other way.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: I can't unsee that's Sam Donald, new York Jet's tenure.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: He said he's sad coast. Then you can't save that
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: a quarterback coach.
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: I don't even know what Sean Ghast means.
• 37:19
  Speaker 8: He said it.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: That best mean he's scared.
• 37:21
  Speaker 8: He'll always be.
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: Scared, right right, That's exactly what it feels like.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: See, that's a child. Sam Donald was an adult. I'm
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: not very good at this professional football thing. If I
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: want to get better, I have got to work hard.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: I know I can get there.
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Now he's there and he will tell you now one
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: very good back then yeah, or even like he said,
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: Critics can't say he was not very good and now
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: he's become good.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Good for him, right, Isn't that weird?
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: Isn't that weird?
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: All right?
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: I'm a close with this Husky's camp.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Tomorrow two days of broadcasting from Huskies Camp six to ten.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: We're gonna have some special guests, hosts with me and
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: also all sorts of special guests.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: So looking forward to it.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Two days of Husky football, I mean six to eight
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: will work in some Mariners and some Seahawks be there.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Eight to ten is going to be a consistent block
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: each of the next two days of Huskies football.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Will be out there on the field.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: So looking forward to seeing Coach Fish, looking forward to
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: seeing Demand Williams and all of the Husky folk.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: So that's what we're going to be for tomorrow's radio program.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Coming up next on our radio station, Greg Bell and
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Jessmin McIntyre for andrews Hurst. My name is Chuck Powell,
• 38:42
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• 38:44
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