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- 0:07Speaker 1: Welcome to Kat Has Questions. Curiosity, stories, and the strange
- 0:12Speaker 1: corners of everyday life. Hello, hello. I'm Kat. Okay, guys.
- 0:21Speaker 1: If you are in the true crime space and you
- 0:24Speaker 1: don't live under a rock, you've probably watched Death of
- 0:27Speaker 1: a Pastor's Wife on Netflix. I just binged this last night. Today,
- 0:32Speaker 1: I'm giving you the full Micah Miller story. including what
- 0:36Speaker 1: happened before her death, the records behind the allegations, and
- 0:41Speaker 1: everything that has happened since. Before we get into today's episode,
- 0:46Speaker 1: I want to give you a quick content warning. This
- 0:49Speaker 1: story involves allegations of domestic abuse, coercive control, stalking, mental health, suicide,
- 0:57Speaker 1: and sexual abuse. I'm not going to get unnecessarily graphic,
- 1:01Speaker 1: but those topics are important parts of Micah Miller's story.
- 1:06Speaker 1: And I also want to establish something right at the beginning,
- 1:09Speaker 1: because this case has generated an enormous amount of speculation online.
- 1:14Speaker 1: Micah Miller's death was officially ruled a suicide. Her husband,
- 1:19Speaker 1: John Paul Miller, who you'll hear me call JP throughout
- 1:23Speaker 1: the episode, has never been charged with causing Micah's death.
- 1:27Speaker 1: He has, however, since been federally indicted on charges of
- 1:31Speaker 1: cyber-stalking Micah and making false statements to federal investigators. He
- 1:36Speaker 1: has pleaded not guilty to those charges. So throughout this episode,
- 1:41Speaker 1: I'm going to be very clear about what has been
- 1:44Speaker 1: documented by law enforcement or in court records, what federal
- 1:48Speaker 1: prosecutors are alleging, and what comes from Micah's family and friends.
- 1:53Speaker 1: Because we really don't need to blur those lines. There
- 1:56Speaker 1: is already a remarkable amount of documented information on this case.
- 2:01Speaker 1: And if you recently watched Netflix's Death of the Pastor's Wife,
- 2:04Speaker 1: you probably already know the broad strokes of Micah's story.
- 2:08Speaker 1: But today, I want to go deeper. If you haven't
- 2:10Speaker 1: watched it, go do that now. Or keep listening, but
- 2:13Speaker 1: know that there might be some spoilers if you've never
- 2:16Speaker 1: heard the story before. So I want to look at
- 2:19Speaker 1: who Micah was before she ever became the pastor's wife.
- 2:23Speaker 1: How a 13-year-old girl who loved her church eventually married
- 2:27Speaker 1: the pastor who was 15 years older than her. What
- 2:31Speaker 1: Micah's friends and family say happened inside that marriage. The
- 2:34Speaker 1: fight over her mental health treatment. Her attempts to leave.
- 2:38Speaker 1: The police reports. The tracking devices. The problems with her car.
- 2:43Speaker 1: The repeated unwanted communication. Exactly what investigators say happened on
- 2:48Speaker 1: April 27, 2024. And what happened after Micah died. Because
- 2:53Speaker 1: her death was not actually the end of the story.
- 2:57Speaker 1: It eventually led to an FBI investigation. a federal indictment,
- 3:01Speaker 1: and an attempt to change South Carolina law in Micah's name.
- 3:05Speaker 1: This is the story of Micah Miller. It's Sunday morning,
- 3:11Speaker 1: April 28, 2024. Solid Rock Church in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.
- 3:18Speaker 1: Pastor John Paul Miller is standing in front of his congregation.
- 3:21Speaker 1: The service itself seems to proceed normally. There's music, there's preaching,
- 3:26Speaker 1: and then, toward the end, JP tells everyone he has
- 3:30Speaker 1: an announcement. He asks the congregation not to talk about
- 3:34Speaker 1: what he's about to tell them. He asks them to
- 3:36Speaker 1: leave the church after the service in quiet and not
- 3:39Speaker 1: to discuss it. Then he tells them that the night
- 3:43Speaker 1: before this service, his wife Micah had died. Micah was
- 3:48Speaker 1: 30 years old. She had spent years in the church.
- 3:52Speaker 1: She had sung here, led worship here, worked here, and
- 3:56Speaker 1: eventually married the man now standing in front of the
- 3:58Speaker 1: congregation announcing her death. JP tells the church that Micah's
- 4:03Speaker 1: death was, in his words, quote, self-induced. Then he asks
- 4:07Speaker 1: the congregation to pray for her family. Can we also
- 4:10Speaker 1: pause and talk about how weird it is that he
- 4:13Speaker 1: did an entire sermon acting completely normal and then announced
- 4:18Speaker 1: at the very end that she had died? And like
- 4:23Speaker 1: the footage they show in the documentary is just jarring.
- 4:25Speaker 1: It's very weird. There was a lot, though, that the
- 4:28Speaker 1: congregation did not know yet. They didn't know that Micah
- 4:31Speaker 1: and J.P. had been living apart. They didn't know Micah
- 4:35Speaker 1: had recently contacted police more than once. They didn't know
- 4:39Speaker 1: she had reported being followed and harassed. That a tracking
- 4:43Speaker 1: device had been discovered on her vehicle. That she had
- 4:46Speaker 1: told police she was afraid for her life. They didn't
- 4:49Speaker 1: know that just two days before Micah died, J.P. had
- 4:52Speaker 1: been served with paperwork in their legal separation. And they
- 4:56Speaker 1: definitely didn't know that less than two years later, federal
- 5:00Speaker 1: prosecutors would accuse the pastor standing in front of them
- 5:03Speaker 1: of carrying out a cyber-stalking campaign against his wife that
- 5:07Speaker 1: allegedly continued from November 2022 until the day she died.
- 5:13Speaker 1: According to the federal indictment, the alleged behavior included tracking
- 5:16Speaker 1: Micah's vehicle, interfering with her finances and daily activities, damaging
- 5:21Speaker 1: her tires. I'm pretty sure he had put like, or
- 5:25Speaker 1: allegedly had put razor blades in her tires, repeatedly contacting
- 5:30Speaker 1: her when she didn't want contact. And at one point,
- 5:34Speaker 1: prosecutors say more than 50 times in one single day.
- 5:39Speaker 1: And he also posted a nude photograph of Micah online
- 5:42Speaker 1: without her consent. Again, none of that means JP caused
- 5:46Speaker 1: Micah's death. Authorities have not accused him of doing that.
- 5:50Speaker 1: But it does completely change the context surrounding the woman
- 5:55Speaker 1: whose death he was announcing from the pulpit that morning.
- 5:59Speaker 1: And to understand how Micah Miller ended up here, we
- 6:01Speaker 1: have to go back much further. Because before she was J.P.
- 6:05Speaker 1: Miller's wife, J.P. was her pastor, and Micah was 13
- 6:10Speaker 1: years old. Micah Acacia Francis was born on March 7, 1994,
- 6:16Speaker 1: in Wichita, Kansas. She grew up in a large family
- 6:19Speaker 1: with five siblings. And when Micah's family talks about her now,
- 6:23Speaker 1: one thing that comes up again and again, her faith.
- 6:27Speaker 1: Religion wasn't something Micah casually participated in. It seemed to
- 6:31Speaker 1: have been central to the way she understood herself and
- 6:34Speaker 1: the world around her. Her sister Destiny would later say
- 6:39Speaker 1: that out of all of the siblings, Micah was probably
- 6:41Speaker 1: the strongest in her faith. Micah also had another gift.
- 6:45Speaker 1: She could sing. Her family was musical, but Micah apparently
- 6:49Speaker 1: had an especially beautiful voice. And in a lot of
- 6:52Speaker 1: the videos you see in this documentary and other videos
- 6:55Speaker 1: of her, obviously, she does have a great voice. When
- 6:59Speaker 1: the family eventually moved from Kansas to Myrtle Beach, South Carolina,
- 7:02Speaker 1: Micah was about 13 years old. It was a major transition.
- 7:07Speaker 1: Her mother had divorced and remarried, and the move brought
- 7:10Speaker 1: the family into a completely new community. Like a lot
- 7:14Speaker 1: of families trying to establish roots somewhere, they found a church.
- 7:18Speaker 1: And that church was Solid Rock. And the pastor was
- 7:21Speaker 1: John Paul Miller. J.P. was roughly 15 years older than Micah.
- 7:26Speaker 1: So when they moved there, he was married, he had children.
- 7:29Speaker 1: And he wasn't simply some random adult Micah happened to know.
- 7:33Speaker 1: This was her pastor. An authority figure inside a community
- 7:37Speaker 1: that was extremely important to her. According to Micah's family,
- 7:41Speaker 1: the church became even more significant after her mother and
- 7:44Speaker 1: stepfather later divorced. her sister Anne described it by saying
- 7:48Speaker 1: that Micah essentially made church her lifestyle. And she wasn't
- 7:52Speaker 1: just sitting in a pew on Sunday mornings. Micah became
- 7:55Speaker 1: deeply involved. She sang. She participated in the music ministry.
- 8:01Speaker 1: And by the time she was only 16 years old,
- 8:04Speaker 1: she was helping lead worship and the choir. Significant responsibilities
- 8:08Speaker 1: for somebody that young. Solid Rock wasn't just where Micah
- 8:12Speaker 1: went to church. It became her community and social circle,
- 8:16Speaker 1: her spiritual life, and then eventually her workplace. And it
- 8:20Speaker 1: was also where she met the man she would marry.
- 8:23Speaker 1: The man she would first marry. His name was Jeremy Diaz.
- 8:28Speaker 1: Jeremy was connected to the church, and J.P. was involved
- 8:32Speaker 1: in his life also as a mentor. Micah and Jeremy
- 8:35Speaker 1: were young when they got together. And then, when Micah
- 8:38Speaker 1: was 18, they married. And the person who officiated their wedding?
- 8:43Speaker 1: You guessed it, J.P. Miller. Just think about that dynamic
- 8:47Speaker 1: for a second. The man who would eventually become her
- 8:50Speaker 1: second husband stood in front of her when she was
- 8:52Speaker 1: 18 years old and officiated her marriage to somebody else.
- 8:57Speaker 1: I'd also like to point out too that Jeremy was
- 9:00Speaker 1: the same age as Micah, so he wasn't like much
- 9:02Speaker 1: older like JP. He was like also in high school
- 9:04Speaker 1: and all that stuff at the same time. At the
- 9:07Speaker 1: point when JP officiated their marriage, he was still married too.
- 9:12Speaker 1: He and his first wife had children together, Micah would
- 9:15Speaker 1: also become increasingly connected to JP and his family. She
- 9:19Speaker 1: worked as JP's assistant, and some accounts describe her as
- 9:23Speaker 1: also helping the family with childcare. So now JP wasn't
- 9:27Speaker 1: only Micah's pastor. He wasn't only somebody who she knew
- 9:32Speaker 1: since she was a young teenager. He was also her boss,
- 9:35Speaker 1: her mentor, and somebody deeply embedded in virtually every important
- 9:39Speaker 1: area of her life. Religion, work, friendships, marriage, church... Then,
- 9:44Speaker 1: according to Micah's sister Ciara, a few years into Micah's marriage,
- 9:49Speaker 1: the communication between Micah and JP began changing. Ciara says
- 9:55Speaker 1: JP started texting Micah affectionately, then increasingly romantic. and eventually
- 10:01Speaker 1: the relationship crossed a line. In 2015, Micah and JP
- 10:06Speaker 1: began an affair. Micah was around 21, and JP was
- 10:11Speaker 1: in his mid-30s at this point. Once again, both of
- 10:15Speaker 1: them were married to other people. And then when the
- 10:18Speaker 1: affair became known, it didn't only destroy two marriages. It
- 10:22Speaker 1: caused a crisis inside Solid Rock Church. JP eventually stood
- 10:28Speaker 1: before the congregation in July of 2015 and acknowledged what
- 10:32Speaker 1: he called a moral failing in his marriage. His first
- 10:36Speaker 1: marriage ended shortly after that, and then Micah's marriage to
- 10:39Speaker 1: Jeremy ended. In the church community that Micah had been
- 10:43Speaker 1: part of since she was 13 was suddenly being forced
- 10:46Speaker 1: to reckon with the fact that its married pastor, had
- 10:49Speaker 1: begun a relationship with a much younger woman who had
- 10:52Speaker 1: grown up inside the church. That history matters. Because there
- 10:56Speaker 1: are two completely different ways this relationship has since been described. J.P.
- 11:02Speaker 1: has strongly pushed back against the idea that he groomed Micah.
- 11:05Speaker 1: In an interview after her death, he said there had
- 11:08Speaker 1: been essentially no meaningful relationship between them while Micah was
- 11:12Speaker 1: a minor beyond the kinds of interactions he had with
- 11:14Speaker 1: other people at the church. He also said the romantic
- 11:17Speaker 1: relationship began when Micah was already an adult. Micah's family, however,
- 11:22Speaker 1: sees the power dynamic very differently. To them, you cannot
- 11:26Speaker 1: separate their adult relationship from the fact that Micah met
- 11:29Speaker 1: JP when she was 13, that he was like her
- 11:32Speaker 1: spiritual authority, and eventually her employer, and that by the
- 11:37Speaker 1: time their relationship became romantic, Micah's entire world was already
- 11:42Speaker 1: deeply connected to the church that JP led. Regardless of
- 11:46Speaker 1: how you interpret that history, the basic timeline is not disputed.
- 11:50Speaker 1: Micah met J.P. as a young teenager. J.P. officiated her
- 11:53Speaker 1: first wedding when she was 18. Micah worked for him.
- 11:58Speaker 1: Their affair began when they were both married. And then
- 12:00Speaker 1: after those marriages ended, Micah and J.P. eventually married each other.
- 12:06Speaker 1: They legally married in November of 2017. So this was
- 12:10Speaker 1: about two years after that affair came about. Micah was 23.
- 12:15Speaker 1: and JP was 38. From the outside, there were reasons
- 12:20Speaker 1: this could have looked like a new beginning. The scandal
- 12:22Speaker 1: was behind them. They were married. Micah remained heavily involved
- 12:26Speaker 1: in the church. She participated in worship, youth ministry, and
- 12:30Speaker 1: women's ministry. They could present themselves as a couple who
- 12:34Speaker 1: had survived something messy and made it through to the
- 12:36Speaker 1: other side. But according to the people closest to Micah,
- 12:40Speaker 1: behind the scenes, the marriage looked very different. And one
- 12:44Speaker 1: of the things that would eventually make this story incredibly
- 12:46Speaker 1: complicated was Micah's mental health. There is no question that
- 12:51Speaker 1: Micah struggled with her mental health. What is disputed is
- 12:54Speaker 1: the role JP played in managing it. Micah's family says
- 12:59Speaker 1: her diagnoses, medications, and psychiatric hospitalizations eventually became intertwined with
- 13:05Speaker 1: the control JP had over her life. But JP says
- 13:09Speaker 1: the exact opposite. He says trying to make sure Micah
- 13:12Speaker 1: received treatment was an act of care, and that people
- 13:15Speaker 1: around her later convinced her that those attempts to help
- 13:18Speaker 1: her were abuse. Because by 2023, Micah was trying to leave,
- 13:23Speaker 1: and once she did, the amount of documentation surrounding the
- 13:27Speaker 1: marriage exploded. Divorce filings, police reports, harassment complaints, the tracking devices.
- 13:34Speaker 1: But before we get to the paper trail... we need
- 13:37Speaker 1: to understand what Micah's friends say was happening inside the
- 13:40Speaker 1: marriage itself. From the outside, Micah and J.P. Miller had
- 13:45Speaker 1: all the pieces of the life they were supposed to want.
- 13:48Speaker 1: The perfect little life. J.P. was the pastor. Micah was
- 13:52Speaker 1: his wife. She sang on stage. She was involved in
- 13:55Speaker 1: the church. And if you only saw them together on
- 13:58Speaker 1: Sunday morning, you might have assumed the scandal that started
- 14:01Speaker 1: their relationship had eventually settled into something stable. But, Micah's
- 14:06Speaker 1: friends and family describe it very differently, and the allegations
- 14:10Speaker 1: aren't limited to one type of abuse. The people closest
- 14:13Speaker 1: to Micah describe a pattern involving her religion, her friendships,
- 14:17Speaker 1: her movements, money, sex, and eventually her mental health treatment.
- 14:23Speaker 1: Taken one at a time, some of these things might
- 14:26Speaker 1: sound explainable. Together, Micah's family believes they formed a system
- 14:30Speaker 1: of control. Her close friend, Charlotte Korn, remembers Micah telling
- 14:35Speaker 1: her not to call before 11 in the morning unless
- 14:38Speaker 1: Micah called first. Why? Because according to Charlotte, Micah told
- 14:44Speaker 1: her that JP did not like her getting out of
- 14:46Speaker 1: bed before he did. Charlotte also says Micah couldn't simply
- 14:50Speaker 1: go out with a friend for an afternoon without watching
- 14:53Speaker 1: the clock. According to her account in the Netflix documentary,
- 14:57Speaker 1: Micah told her that she wasn't supposed to be gone
- 15:00Speaker 1: from the house for more than around three hours. And
- 15:03Speaker 1: even before those three hours were up, the calls from
- 15:06Speaker 1: JP would begin. At two hours, and then again and again.
- 15:11Speaker 1: As the time got closer to when JP expected Micah home,
- 15:15Speaker 1: Charlotte says the calls would get closer together. And if
- 15:18Speaker 1: Micah didn't come home when JP wanted, Charlotte said he
- 15:21Speaker 1: might just simply show up. And again, JP has denied
- 15:25Speaker 1: abusing Micah. But Micah's friends say they did not experience
- 15:29Speaker 1: this as a husband just casually wondering where his wife
- 15:31Speaker 1: was or when she'd be home. They saw this as surveillance.
- 15:34Speaker 1: They saw control. They absolutely saw these as red flags.
- 15:39Speaker 1: And they say Micah understood that if she didn't follow
- 15:42Speaker 1: the rules, there could be consequences. There was also the
- 15:46Speaker 1: church itself. JP wasn't simply Micah's husband. He was still
- 15:49Speaker 1: a pastor and one of the most influential spiritual voices
- 15:53Speaker 1: in her life. That distinction becomes especially important when you
- 15:57Speaker 1: listen to some of JP's sermons. In some of those
- 16:00Speaker 1: sermons included in the documentary, J.P. preaches publicly about what
- 16:05Speaker 1: he believed a wife owed her husband sexually. He described
- 16:10Speaker 1: a wife as her husband's, quote, helpmate. In one sermon,
- 16:14Speaker 1: he warned women that if they did not meet their
- 16:15Speaker 1: husband's sexual needs, Satan would make sure other options appeared
- 16:19Speaker 1: in front of him. So, basically, if your husband cheats
- 16:22Speaker 1: because you aren't having enough sex with him, the temptation
- 16:25Speaker 1: is at least partly your fault. According to Micah's friends,
- 16:30Speaker 1: that theology did not stay behind the pulpit. It followed
- 16:33Speaker 1: Micah home. Bruna Pepon, one of Micah's close friends, says
- 16:38Speaker 1: Micah told her JP expected sex multiple times a day.
- 16:43Speaker 1: She says Micah told her he would wake her up
- 16:46Speaker 1: or keep her awake at night when she did not
- 16:49Speaker 1: want to participate. I remember in the documentary them explaining, like,
- 16:54Speaker 1: as she was falling asleep, he would literally, like, turn
- 16:57Speaker 1: on all the lights in the room and so that
- 16:59Speaker 1: she would wake up and would just do this all night.
- 17:02Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of a form of torture, but
- 17:04Speaker 1: if she didn't basically give in to him. Bruna also
- 17:08Speaker 1: said that Micah began using testosterone at JP's encouragement in
- 17:12Speaker 1: an effort to increase her sex drive. And for Micah,
- 17:16Speaker 1: who had spent so much of her life singing, her
- 17:18Speaker 1: friends said it came with another consequence. The testosterone affected
- 17:22Speaker 1: her voice. Remember how important Micah's voice was to her?
- 17:26Speaker 1: Music wasn't just like some random hobby. It was her
- 17:29Speaker 1: identity since she was a teenager. It was her job.
- 17:33Speaker 1: It was her community or her faith. So her friends
- 17:37Speaker 1: said that this testosterone was making her voice deeper. I mean,
- 17:41Speaker 1: obviously it would affect the sound quality of her voice
- 17:43Speaker 1: a little bit. There are also more disturbing sexual allegations
- 17:48Speaker 1: described by Micah's friends in the Netflix documentary. I'm not
- 17:51Speaker 1: going to go into all the explicit details because I
- 17:54Speaker 1: don't necessarily think we need to, but... Bruna says Micah
- 17:58Speaker 1: described being pressured into sexual situations involving other people that
- 18:02Speaker 1: she did not want, like him finding other people on
- 18:06Speaker 1: the street, like unhoused individuals that she would have to
- 18:12Speaker 1: have sexual relations with. Those allegations have not resulted in
- 18:16Speaker 1: criminal charges against JP, and JP has denied abusing Micah.
- 18:21Speaker 1: But they matter because they give us context for something
- 18:24Speaker 1: Micah would later begin discussing publicly. Whether God actually expected
- 18:29Speaker 1: someone to remain in a marriage that was hurting them.
- 18:32Speaker 1: Because for Micah, leaving wasn't simply a relationship decision. It
- 18:35Speaker 1: was a religious decision. She had grown up believing divorce
- 18:38Speaker 1: was wrong. And JP wasn't simply her husband telling her that.
- 18:42Speaker 1: He was a pastor. The man whose sermons had helped
- 18:46Speaker 1: define what marriage supposedly required of her. And I feel
- 18:50Speaker 1: like also the sermons they show snippets of, like, might
- 18:55Speaker 1: seem like a little... weirdly offhanded you might be like
- 18:59Speaker 1: oh that's kind of weird especially if it's like sandwiched
- 19:01Speaker 1: with normal stuff in like a normal religious sermon but
- 19:05Speaker 1: then when they show them all to like throughout this
- 19:07Speaker 1: entire documentary you're like oh my gosh how much is
- 19:09Speaker 1: he talking about that at one point according to messages
- 19:12Speaker 1: included in the documentary jp told micah she needed to
- 19:16Speaker 1: act like a quote godly wife and prioritize her marriage
- 19:21Speaker 1: over her family friends and feelings think about that wording
- 19:26Speaker 1: Your family, your friends, and your feelings all have to
- 19:29Speaker 1: come second. The marriage comes first. And according to Micah's family,
- 19:34Speaker 1: beliefs like that kept her there long after she wanted
- 19:36Speaker 1: to leave. That's also very much a form of manipulation
- 19:40Speaker 1: and isolating her from people who care about her or
- 19:44Speaker 1: people who could kind of help her realize there are
- 19:46Speaker 1: a lot of red flags in that relationship. So I
- 19:49Speaker 1: think we need to talk more specifically about Micah's mental
- 19:52Speaker 1: health because there are two things that can be true
- 19:55Speaker 1: at exactly the same time. Micah had documented mental health
- 19:59Speaker 1: struggles and somebody with serious mental health struggles can still
- 20:03Speaker 1: be experiencing abuse. One does not erase the other. J.P.
- 20:08Speaker 1: has spoken extensively about Micah's psychiatric history. After her death,
- 20:14Speaker 1: he provided reporters with medical documents and prescription information that
- 20:18Speaker 1: he said showed Micah had been diagnosed at various points
- 20:22Speaker 1: with conditions including bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, and dependent personality disorder.
- 20:29Speaker 1: The North Carolina Medical Examiner's information also listed Micah as
- 20:32Speaker 1: having bipolar disorder and a history of previous suicide attempts.
- 20:37Speaker 1: JP has said Micah struggled when she wasn't taking her medication.
- 20:41Speaker 1: He specifically said lithium helped her. He described periods when
- 20:46Speaker 1: he believed Micah was experiencing delusions or behaving in ways
- 20:49Speaker 1: that showed she was seriously ill. And according to JP,
- 20:54Speaker 1: one of the biggest conflicts in their marriage came from
- 20:56Speaker 1: his efforts to make sure Micah stayed on her medication.
- 21:00Speaker 1: From his perspective, he was trying to keep his wife
- 21:03Speaker 1: alive and stable. He has accused members of Micah's family
- 21:07Speaker 1: of doing the opposite. He says they encouraged her to
- 21:10Speaker 1: stop taking medication and favored more holistic approaches instead. And
- 21:16Speaker 1: he said that once Micah left him and stopped consistently
- 21:19Speaker 1: taking medication, her mental health deteriorated. But Micah's family strongly
- 21:25Speaker 1: disputes that version of events. Their attorney, Regina Ward, who
- 21:30Speaker 1: is just like a boss-ass lady... In the documentary, She's
- 21:35Speaker 1: the Best, she publicly raised questions about the circumstances surrounding
- 21:40Speaker 1: Micah's diagnosis and medications. She said Micah's family had questions
- 21:45Speaker 1: about who diagnosed her with certain conditions and who prescribed
- 21:49Speaker 1: specific medications. Ward also alleged that at times, J.P. hid
- 21:55Speaker 1: medication in Micah's food or forced her to take pills. J.P.
- 21:59Speaker 1: denies that his efforts surrounding Micah's medication were abusive. And
- 22:04Speaker 1: this is where I want to be careful. I cannot
- 22:06Speaker 1: tell you whether every diagnosis Micah received was accurate. I
- 22:10Speaker 1: can't tell you whether every medication was appropriate. And I
- 22:13Speaker 1: definitely can't tell you whether Micah did or did not
- 22:17Speaker 1: struggle with serious mental illness. But there is evidence that
- 22:20Speaker 1: she did. What matters to this story is that Micah's
- 22:24Speaker 1: psychiatric treatment became another area where Micah and JP, and
- 22:29Speaker 1: eventually Micah's family, completely disagreed over who had the right
- 22:33Speaker 1: to make decisions for her. This brings us to the hospitalizations.
- 22:38Speaker 1: Several of them. JP says Micah was hospitalized multiple times
- 22:43Speaker 1: during their marriage. The final psychiatric hospitalization before her death
- 22:48Speaker 1: occurred in February of 2024. By that point, their marriage
- 22:52Speaker 1: was already collapsing. And according to Micah's family and friends,
- 22:56Speaker 1: they became increasingly worried about Micah's mental health history and
- 23:00Speaker 1: That would make it harder for people to believe when
- 23:03Speaker 1: she described what was happening at home. So think about
- 23:07Speaker 1: how complicated that becomes. If she becomes upset, they could
- 23:11Speaker 1: say she's unstable. If she says she's being controlled, they
- 23:14Speaker 1: could just say she's paranoid. If she says she wants
- 23:17Speaker 1: to leave, she's just having an episode. If she becomes
- 23:21Speaker 1: frightened of the person making those claims about her, that
- 23:24Speaker 1: fear can potentially be portrayed as another symptom. That does
- 23:28Speaker 1: not mean Micah's mental illness wasn't real, but it means
- 23:31Speaker 1: that the mental illness and alleged abuse are not mutually exclusive.
- 23:36Speaker 1: And by the end of 2023, those two competing narratives
- 23:40Speaker 1: were colliding as Micah openly started trying to get out
- 23:42Speaker 1: of the marriage. On October 8th, 2023, Micah filed for divorce.
- 23:49Speaker 1: But divorce was complicated for Micah in ways that went
- 23:51Speaker 1: far beyond the paperwork. Like we talked about with the
- 23:54Speaker 1: church and her faith... in the belief that marriage is
- 23:57Speaker 1: supposed to be permanent. Micah wasn't simply asking, do I
- 24:01Speaker 1: want to stay married to this man? She also seems
- 24:04Speaker 1: to have been asking, does leaving this marriage make me
- 24:07Speaker 1: a bad Christian? Eventually, she started answering that question publicly.
- 24:12Speaker 1: In early 2024, Micah began posting videos online talking about
- 24:16Speaker 1: abuse and what it means to leave a dangerous relationship.
- 24:20Speaker 1: In one March video, she addressed people who believed God
- 24:23Speaker 1: might be angry with them for leaving. Micah said, quote,
- 24:27Speaker 1: God hates divorce because it hurts people. Then she says,
- 24:32Speaker 1: does abuse hurt people? And how do you think God
- 24:35Speaker 1: feels about that? And this is such an important moment
- 24:37Speaker 1: in Micah's story because it doesn't sound like somebody who
- 24:41Speaker 1: is indifferent toward her marriage. It sounds like somebody trying
- 24:44Speaker 1: to untangle years of religious teaching from her own survival.
- 24:49Speaker 1: She was telling other people that God did not expect
- 24:51Speaker 1: them to remain somewhere they were being harmed because simply
- 24:54Speaker 1: because they feared divorce would disappoint him. And knowing what
- 24:58Speaker 1: was happening in Micah's own life at that exact time,
- 25:01Speaker 1: it is difficult not to hear her as also talking
- 25:04Speaker 1: to herself, trying to give herself permission to leave. The
- 25:09Speaker 1: divorce case she filed in October did not immediately accomplish that.
- 25:13Speaker 1: That filing was eventually dismissed in February 2024 after both
- 25:18Speaker 1: parties indicated that they might be able to resolve their issues.
- 25:22Speaker 1: There was also already a post-nuptial agreement between them, and
- 25:25Speaker 1: that agreement had been filed in February 2023. Under it,
- 25:30Speaker 1: Micah and JP both waived the right to seek alimony
- 25:33Speaker 1: or separate support. The home they shared was owned by
- 25:38Speaker 1: the church, meaning it was not considered their marital property. Okay,
- 25:42Speaker 1: but also, to be fair... JP and, like, his dad,
- 25:47Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure, they, like, owned this church. So if
- 25:49Speaker 1: the church owns the house, it's like, that's kind of his,
- 25:52Speaker 1: isn't it? The agreement also included provisions saying that they
- 25:55Speaker 1: would keep aspects of their personal lives confidential and not
- 25:58Speaker 1: disparage Solid Rock Ministries. So think about Micah trying to
- 26:02Speaker 1: separate her life from JP. Her husband was the church, essentially.
- 26:07Speaker 1: It's also her job, her home, her social life, her
- 26:10Speaker 1: financial life. Leaving one person potentially meant almost losing everything
- 26:16Speaker 1: connected to him and her, so basically she'd be losing
- 26:19Speaker 1: her whole life. But by February of 2024, Micah and
- 26:23Speaker 1: JP were living apart. On February 22nd, JP filed for
- 26:28Speaker 1: legal separation from Micah. According to him, this was also
- 26:32Speaker 1: around the time Micah was psychiatrically hospitalized. But that separation
- 26:37Speaker 1: case didn't last either. JP dismissed it on March 11th.
- 26:41Speaker 1: He later said he dismissed the case because he believed
- 26:44Speaker 1: Micah was having a mental health crisis and was not herself.
- 26:48Speaker 1: And March 11th is a day you're going to want
- 26:50Speaker 1: to remember because while JP was dismissing his separation case,
- 26:55Speaker 1: Micah was calling the police twice. On March 11th, 2024,
- 26:59Speaker 1: at around 1.30 in the morning, Micah contacted Horry County Police.
- 27:05Speaker 1: There had been a problem with the tires on her
- 27:07Speaker 1: vehicle while she was near Spring Maid Pier. Police took
- 27:10Speaker 1: the report. Then, later that morning at around 11.30 a.m.,
- 27:15Speaker 1: Micah contacted police again. This time she was reporting harassment.
- 27:19Speaker 1: According to police report, a man Micah had been trying
- 27:22Speaker 1: to avoid had approached her at a gas station and
- 27:25Speaker 1: attempted to speak with her. She said he also continued
- 27:28Speaker 1: calling and texting her despite being blocked. That man's identity
- 27:33Speaker 1: was redacted in early publicly released versions of this report.
- 27:37Speaker 1: But federal prosecutors would later allege that on this exact date,
- 27:42Speaker 1: JP contacted Micah repeatedly, and that law enforcement told him
- 27:46Speaker 1: to stop. So it's thought that he's the one she
- 27:50Speaker 1: was calling about. During this conversation with police, Micah said
- 27:54Speaker 1: something very direct. She was afraid for her life. She
- 27:58Speaker 1: also told officers she had previously tried to obtain a
- 28:01Speaker 1: restraining order. And while her car was being repaired after
- 28:04Speaker 1: the tire incident, a mechanic found something attached to it.
- 28:08Speaker 1: A GPS tracking device. And then there were more trackers.
- 28:12Speaker 1: so she would take one off and then he'd find
- 28:14Speaker 1: another way to put one on there. Micah ultimately reported
- 28:17Speaker 1: discovering multiple trackers associated with her vehicle. JP did later
- 28:23Speaker 1: acknowledge that he hired a private investigator to follow Micah.
- 28:27Speaker 1: His explanation was that he was worried about her mental
- 28:29Speaker 1: health and wanted to prevent her from obtaining a firearm.
- 28:33Speaker 1: Federal prosecutors now allege a different motive for that surveillance.
- 28:38Speaker 1: According to the government's case, the investigator was hired because
- 28:41Speaker 1: JP suspected Micah of adultery. And prosecutors allege the surveillance
- 28:46Speaker 1: was part of a broader cyber-stalking campaign. And we will
- 28:49Speaker 1: come back to that. But in March 2024, Micah did
- 28:53Speaker 1: not have a federal indictment explaining any of this. She
- 28:56Speaker 1: had a damaged vehicle, a tracking device, repeated unwanted contact,
- 29:01Speaker 1: and a police report documenting that she had said she
- 29:03Speaker 1: was afraid for her life. So that was all March 11th.
- 29:08Speaker 1: Then on March 22nd, So about two weeks later, Micah
- 29:13Speaker 1: posted another video. The wording is difficult to ignore in hindsight.
- 29:19Speaker 1: She encouraged people who were struggling with leaving a dangerous
- 29:22Speaker 1: situation to share it with somebody. She talked about forgiveness, bitterness, resentment,
- 29:27Speaker 1: her faith, and the idea that leaving abuse did not
- 29:30Speaker 1: mean abandoning God. At the same time, she was slowly
- 29:34Speaker 1: beginning to build a life outside Solid Rock. She was
- 29:37Speaker 1: staying somewhere else. Friends were helping her. She found work
- 29:40Speaker 1: outside of the church, and she actually began attending another church.
- 29:45Speaker 1: People close to Micah said she seemed hopeful about starting over.
- 29:49Speaker 1: But that does not mean she was suddenly okay. It
- 29:53Speaker 1: absolutely does not erase all the documented mental health struggles,
- 29:56Speaker 1: but it does make the picture of Micah in the
- 29:57Speaker 1: final weeks before her death more complicated than simply saying
- 30:01Speaker 1: she was depressed and suicidal. She was making plans, trying
- 30:05Speaker 1: to become financially independent, reconnecting with her family and talking
- 30:09Speaker 1: about divorce more seriously, and continuing to document what she
- 30:13Speaker 1: believed was happening to her. Then, on April 15th, Micah
- 30:19Speaker 1: filed for legal separation again. This time she was the
- 30:22Speaker 1: one initiating it. So I think the first time she
- 30:24Speaker 1: was the one initiating it, then it got dropped, then
- 30:27Speaker 1: he did, and then now this is her. Ten days later,
- 30:31Speaker 1: on April 25th, J.P. was served with the paperwork. Micah
- 30:35Speaker 1: was 30 years old. She had spent nearly half of
- 30:38Speaker 1: her life connected to J.P. Miller. And now she was
- 30:41Speaker 1: once again trying to legally separate from him. The papers
- 30:44Speaker 1: were served on a Thursday. Two days later, Saturday, April 27th,
- 30:49Speaker 1: Micah got up and prepared to go to work. And
- 30:52Speaker 1: somewhere between leaving her apartment that morning and the end
- 30:55Speaker 1: of that afternoon, Micah Miller drove more than an hour
- 30:59Speaker 1: away from the life she was trying to rebuild, she
- 31:02Speaker 1: bought a gun, she drove to an isolated state park
- 31:05Speaker 1: in North Carolina, and she made a call to 911.
- 31:09Speaker 1: And by that evening, she was dead. Because so much
- 31:13Speaker 1: of April 27th was documented through surveillance footage, receipts, cell
- 31:17Speaker 1: phone information, and physical evidence, investigators were eventually able to
- 31:21Speaker 1: reconstruct much of Micah's final day. At approximately 11 a.m.
- 31:26Speaker 1: that morning, Micah's ring camera at the apartment she was
- 31:29Speaker 1: staying in captured her arriving back at her residence on
- 31:33Speaker 1: Margarita Drive in Myrtle Beach. 38 minutes later, at 11.38,
- 31:37Speaker 1: the camera recorded her leaving again. From there, she drove
- 31:42Speaker 1: to Dick's Pawn Shop on Mr. Joe White Avenue, and
- 31:45Speaker 1: at 12.12 p.m., surveillance footage shows Micah walking inside. One
- 31:50Speaker 1: minute later, she began purchasing a firearm. Micah bought a
- 31:54Speaker 1: 9mm handgun along with ammunition. The transaction took a little
- 31:59Speaker 1: over 20 minutes. At approximately 12.34, surveillance shows her leaving
- 32:04Speaker 1: the pawn shop. Investigators have not released evidence showing anyone
- 32:08Speaker 1: else purchasing the gun for her or accompanying her inside.
- 32:11Speaker 1: There's actual footage of her doing this and you can
- 32:13Speaker 1: tell it's her. From Myrtle Beach, Micah headed northwest. At 1.06 p.m.,
- 32:20Speaker 1: Her black Honda was captured traveling along Highway 501 near Conway,
- 32:24Speaker 1: South Carolina. At 1.27, she stopped at a convenience store
- 32:30Speaker 1: called 41 Grocery and Grill in Mullins. Surveillance captures her vehicle.
- 32:37Speaker 1: She gets gas, she gets a drink. At approximately 1.35,
- 32:40Speaker 1: she left and she kept driving. One of the questions
- 32:44Speaker 1: that came up almost immediately after her death was, why
- 32:47Speaker 1: Lumber River State Park? It wasn't near her home. It
- 32:51Speaker 1: was in North Carolina, more than an hour from Myrtle Beach.
- 32:54Speaker 1: But when investigators later examined Micah's phone, they found a
- 32:58Speaker 1: recent Google search. Micah had searched for parks near her.
- 33:03Speaker 1: The search results led her toward Lumber River State Park.
- 33:07Speaker 1: So although the location initially seemed strange to people following
- 33:11Speaker 1: this case online, investigators found digital evidence showing how Micah
- 33:15Speaker 1: apparently selected it. Sometime before 3 p.m. that afternoon, Micah arrived.
- 33:21Speaker 1: At 2.54 p.m., the Robeson County Emergency Communication Center received
- 33:25Speaker 1: a 911 call. The caller was Micah. And this call
- 33:30Speaker 1: is probably the single most significant piece of evidence in
- 33:33Speaker 1: the official determination of what happened to her. Micah asked
- 33:38Speaker 1: the dispatcher whether they would be able to locate her
- 33:40Speaker 1: cell phone. She explained that she wanted her family to
- 33:43Speaker 1: be able to find her, Then she told the dispatcher
- 33:46Speaker 1: she was planning to take her own life. The dispatcher
- 33:49Speaker 1: attempted to establish Micah's exact location. Micah indicated that she
- 33:54Speaker 1: was at Lumber River State Park, and eventually the call disconnected.
- 33:59Speaker 1: The dispatcher attempted to call her back but could not
- 34:01Speaker 1: reach her. Law enforcement began trying to locate her. And
- 34:06Speaker 1: I want to stop here for a second because Micah's
- 34:09Speaker 1: demeanor during that call has been analyzed endlessly online. Some
- 34:13Speaker 1: people say she sounds unusually calm. Others have questioned why
- 34:17Speaker 1: someone planning to take her own life would care about
- 34:20Speaker 1: whether her family could find her afterward. Those observations have
- 34:24Speaker 1: fueled theories that maybe something else was happening. But demeanor
- 34:29Speaker 1: is not evidence that someone is or is not suicidal.
- 34:33Speaker 1: There is no single way a person in a suicidal
- 34:35Speaker 1: crisis is supposed to sound or act. From an investigative standpoint,
- 34:40Speaker 1: what mattered was Micah actually communicated. She said she intended
- 34:44Speaker 1: to harm herself. She asked whether authorities would be able
- 34:48Speaker 1: to locate her. And cell phone data placed that call
- 34:51Speaker 1: at the park where her body would later be found.
- 34:54Speaker 1: Deputies and state park rangers began searching Lumber River. A
- 34:58Speaker 1: drone was also used. During the search, officers found Micah's
- 35:02Speaker 1: Honda in the parking lot. Inside the vehicle, investigators found
- 35:07Speaker 1: the gun case, ammunition, the receipt from the pawn shop,
- 35:12Speaker 1: and the receipt from the convenience store where she had
- 35:14Speaker 1: stopped earlier that afternoon. The pieces of Micah's route were
- 35:18Speaker 1: beginning to connect, but they still had not found Micah. Then,
- 35:22Speaker 1: a fisherman named Johnny Jacobs approached investigators. Jacobs had been
- 35:28Speaker 1: fishing in the area and had found a black bag
- 35:30Speaker 1: near the water. Inside the bag was identification belonging to Micah.
- 35:36Speaker 1: Jacobs also told investigators that he had heard someone crying.
- 35:39Speaker 1: Then he heard a gunshot. Jacobs later said he had
- 35:43Speaker 1: been fishing from a kayak when he heard it. Eventually,
- 35:46Speaker 1: he located Micah's belongings near the bank, and at approximately 4.23
- 35:50Speaker 1: that afternoon, another 911 call came in. A body had
- 35:55Speaker 1: been found in the water. Law enforcement responded, and the
- 35:59Speaker 1: woman was identified as Micah Miller. She was 30 years old.
- 36:04Speaker 1: Investigators treated the area as a death scene. The North
- 36:07Speaker 1: Carolina Medical Examiner's Office was contacted. Crime scene investigators photographed
- 36:12Speaker 1: the location, Micah's vehicle, and the surrounding area. A handgun
- 36:16Speaker 1: was eventually recovered from the water. It was the same
- 36:20Speaker 1: gun or the same type of exact gun that she
- 36:22Speaker 1: bought at that store. The serial number matched the gun
- 36:26Speaker 1: case found in Micah's car. And the medical examiner concluded
- 36:31Speaker 1: that Micah died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Investigators reported
- 36:36Speaker 1: no evidence of a physical struggle in the area where
- 36:39Speaker 1: ballistic evidence was located. Authorities ultimately classified her manner of
- 36:44Speaker 1: death as suicide. And when you put together the official case,
- 36:48Speaker 1: there's a lot of evidence supporting that conclusion. Micah was
- 36:52Speaker 1: captured leaving her home alone. She was captured entering the
- 36:55Speaker 1: pawn shop and purchasing that firearm by herself. Her vehicle
- 36:59Speaker 1: was captured along the route to get to where she was.
- 37:03Speaker 1: And her phone was pinging in that area. She also
- 37:06Speaker 1: called 911 and stated her intention to die. That is
- 37:09Speaker 1: why authorities described the evidence supporting suicide as clear and compelling.
- 37:14Speaker 1: But considering everything happening in Micah's marriage, there was another
- 37:18Speaker 1: obvious question investigators needed to answer. Where was J.P.? Because
- 37:23Speaker 1: Micah and J.P. were separated, because she had recently gone
- 37:26Speaker 1: to the police and reported being afraid for her life,
- 37:30Speaker 1: and because J.P. had been served with separation papers only
- 37:33Speaker 1: two days earlier, investigators specifically looked into his whereabouts personally.
- 37:38Speaker 1: pretty much immediately. They determined JP was in South Carolina.
- 37:44Speaker 1: Investigators learned that he had attended an athletic event in
- 37:46Speaker 1: Charleston that day. His vehicle was captured traveling on Highway
- 37:51Speaker 1: 17 Bypass in Horry County at approximately 2.22 p.m. Authorities
- 37:57Speaker 1: also determined another person was with him while traveling to
- 38:01Speaker 1: and from Charleston. That matters because one of the theories
- 38:05Speaker 1: that immediately began circulating online was was that J.P. had
- 38:09Speaker 1: physically gone to Lumber River State Park and killed Micah himself.
- 38:14Speaker 1: The evidence released by investigators does not support that theory. J.P.
- 38:19Speaker 1: has never been charged with killing Micah. He's never been
- 38:22Speaker 1: identified by law enforcement as a suspect in her death.
- 38:25Speaker 1: But that did not mean authorities were saying everything surrounding
- 38:29Speaker 1: Micah's marriage were irrelevant. It meant that there were two
- 38:33Speaker 1: separate questions. How did Micah physically die? And authorities said
- 38:38Speaker 1: concluded she died by suicide. And then, what had been
- 38:41Speaker 1: happening to Micah before she died? And that question was
- 38:44Speaker 1: far from settled. Also, I think it's fair to say,
- 38:48Speaker 1: no matter how she actually physically died, if all that
- 38:52Speaker 1: abuse was going on, that could have definitely played a
- 38:56Speaker 1: big role in why it happened, what led her to that.
- 39:00Speaker 1: When news of Micah's death first began spreading, the public
- 39:03Speaker 1: did not have the full investigative timeline that we just
- 39:06Speaker 1: went through. What people had were pieces. Micah had been
- 39:10Speaker 1: trying to leave her husband. She had been posting kind
- 39:13Speaker 1: of cryptic videos about escaping abuse. She had gone to
- 39:16Speaker 1: the police. There were tracking devices and damage done to
- 39:20Speaker 1: her car. And then people watched the video of JP
- 39:24Speaker 1: standing in church the following morning announcing that Micah was dead.
- 39:28Speaker 1: Without that entire evidence, picture, those pieces created an enormous
- 39:33Speaker 1: storm of suspicion. Social media accounts began dissecting virtually every detail.
- 39:39Speaker 1: True crime creators traveled to Myrtle Beach. The phrase justice
- 39:43Speaker 1: for Micah spread online and theories multiplied. Some were based
- 39:48Speaker 1: on legitimate questions about Micah and about what Micah had
- 39:52Speaker 1: been experiencing before her death. Others went far beyond the
- 39:56Speaker 1: available evidence. People questioned the fishermen, the location, the gun,
- 40:01Speaker 1: the trajectory, why Micah might have gone to North Carolina.
- 40:05Speaker 1: Some witnesses were even harassed by strangers who accused them
- 40:07Speaker 1: of being involved. And this is one of those moments
- 40:10Speaker 1: in a true crime case where legitimate concerns and internet
- 40:14Speaker 1: speculation become very difficult to separate. because Micah's concerns before
- 40:18Speaker 1: her death were real in the sense that she had
- 40:21Speaker 1: actually reported them. And later, federal prosecutors would indict JP
- 40:25Speaker 1: for conduct involving alleged cyberstalking. So it absolutely made sense
- 40:30Speaker 1: to look closely at what had been happening to her.
- 40:34Speaker 1: But that does not make every theory surrounding her death true.
- 40:38Speaker 1: Micah's friends and family also had another reason they were
- 40:41Speaker 1: deeply unsettled. Friends featured in the Netflix documentary say Micah
- 40:47Speaker 1: had made statements before her death expressing fear about what
- 40:50Speaker 1: might happen to her. So not just her saying that
- 40:52Speaker 1: to the police. One friend says Micah told her that
- 40:57Speaker 1: if she ever ended up dead from a gunshot wound,
- 40:59Speaker 1: she believed JP would be responsible and it could be
- 41:02Speaker 1: made to look like suicide. Given how Micah ultimately died,
- 41:07Speaker 1: that statement is obviously haunting. but it still has to
- 41:11Speaker 1: be weighed alongside the physical evidence from April 27th. A
- 41:16Speaker 1: prior statement expressing fear tells us something important about what
- 41:20Speaker 1: she believed and how frightened she was, but it's not
- 41:24Speaker 1: proof that she was murdered. Micah genuinely could have feared JP,
- 41:29Speaker 1: and authorities could still have correctly concluded that JP was
- 41:31Speaker 1: not physically responsible for her death. Within days, the bigger
- 41:35Speaker 1: question began shifting away from who pulled the trigger and
- 41:40Speaker 1: and toward what was happening to her before she died.
- 41:43Speaker 1: On Sunday, May 5th, 2024, just over a week after
- 41:47Speaker 1: Micah died, people gathered outside Solid Rock Church. They carried signs,
- 41:53Speaker 1: many wore purple, and they repeated a phrase that would
- 41:56Speaker 1: become closely associated with the case. Justice for Micah. Some
- 42:01Speaker 1: of the people protesting knew her, others had never met her,
- 42:04Speaker 1: some were domestic violence advocates. Others had simply learned about
- 42:09Speaker 1: the case and believed Micah's allegations deserved further investigation. And
- 42:14Speaker 1: many of the people in this weren't necessarily saying they
- 42:18Speaker 1: believed JP had physically killed her, but it became something broader.
- 42:22Speaker 1: They wanted to know whether the system she had turned
- 42:24Speaker 1: to before her death had actually been capable of protecting
- 42:28Speaker 1: somebody who was describing a pattern rather than one single
- 42:31Speaker 1: violent incident. That same day, JP was temporarily removed from
- 42:36Speaker 1: his normal ministerial duties. Church overseer Charles Randall later made
- 42:42Speaker 1: it clear that JP was not technically fired, but he
- 42:46Speaker 1: had been released from those functions for a period for counseling, healing,
- 42:51Speaker 1: and guidance. JP continued denying that he had abused Micah.
- 42:56Speaker 1: He maintains the central problem in their marriage had been
- 42:59Speaker 1: her mental illness. He said he tried to help her
- 43:02Speaker 1: stay on medication, and he blamed Micah's family for encouraging
- 43:07Speaker 1: her away from treatment that he believed she needed. And
- 43:10Speaker 1: Micah's family maintains the opposite. And almost immediately, the conflict
- 43:14Speaker 1: moved to court. When Micah died, she and J.P. were
- 43:19Speaker 1: still legally married. She had filed for legal separation, J.P.
- 43:23Speaker 1: had been served, but no divorce had been finalized. That
- 43:28Speaker 1: meant J.P. still had significant legal rights as her surviving spouse.
- 43:33Speaker 1: Micah's sister, Sierra Francis, sought control of Micah's estate. The
- 43:38Speaker 1: family wanted access to records and the ability to preserve
- 43:41Speaker 1: information they believed might be relevant to what Micah experienced
- 43:44Speaker 1: before her death. But J.P. also sought control. What followed
- 43:49Speaker 1: was months of legal fighting involving the estate, Micah's belongings,
- 43:53Speaker 1: and disputes involving J.P., her family, and Solid Rock. Then,
- 43:59Speaker 1: at the end of July 2024, the parties reached a
- 44:02Speaker 1: confidential settlement. Sierra withdrew her request to control the estate,
- 44:07Speaker 1: and JP became the personal representative. But the family's advocacy
- 44:11Speaker 1: did not stop, and neither did the broader investigation, because
- 44:15Speaker 1: while that civil case was ending, the FBI was already involved.
- 44:19Speaker 1: Less than three weeks after Micah's death, the FBI confirmed
- 44:23Speaker 1: that it was assisting investigators. The involvement of federal agents
- 44:27Speaker 1: did not mean authorities had suddenly concluded that Michael was murdered.
- 44:30Speaker 1: Robeson County's determination about how she died remained unchanged. But
- 44:35Speaker 1: there were other potential issues investigators could look at. Electronic communications,
- 44:40Speaker 1: the tracking devices, the financial activity, allegations of stalking and harassment.
- 44:47Speaker 1: For months, very little was publicly known about exactly what
- 44:51Speaker 1: federal investigators were doing. Then came November 1st, 2024. So
- 44:58Speaker 1: this would have been, what, seven months after she died?
- 45:01Speaker 1: November 1st, 2024, that morning, federal agents arrived at J.P.
- 45:05Speaker 1: Miller's home in Myrtle Beach. The FBI confirmed that agents
- 45:09Speaker 1: were conducting court-authorized law enforcement activity. Reporters watched members of
- 45:15Speaker 1: an FBI evidence response team entering and leaving the house.
- 45:20Speaker 1: They were seen carrying bags and other items, and the
- 45:22Speaker 1: search lasted for hours. But the search warrant was sealed.
- 45:27Speaker 1: The FBI did not publicly explain what agents were looking for,
- 45:30Speaker 1: and JP was not arrested. So the investigation essentially disappeared
- 45:36Speaker 1: from public view. Weeks passed, then months. 2024 became 2025,
- 45:42Speaker 1: and there were still no federal charges. Solid Rock itself
- 45:46Speaker 1: eventually shut down. the church moved out of the building
- 45:49Speaker 1: where Micah had once sung and led worship, and JP
- 45:53Speaker 1: began preaching again under a new church name. And I'm
- 45:56Speaker 1: pretty sure it was a lot less people. It was
- 45:58Speaker 1: like 12 people. And if you were casually following the case,
- 46:02Speaker 1: it might have looked like that was where things ended.
- 46:05Speaker 1: Micah's death had been ruled suicide. The family litigation settled.
- 46:09Speaker 1: The church closed. There were no charges. And the FBI
- 46:13Speaker 1: went quiet. But it wasn't over. So then... December 18th, 2025.
- 46:20Speaker 1: More than a year and a half after Micah died,
- 46:22Speaker 1: the United States Attorney's Office made an announcement. A federal
- 46:27Speaker 1: grand jury had indicted John Paul Miller. Two counts. The first, cyber-stalking.
- 46:33Speaker 1: The second, making false statements to federal investigators. And when
- 46:37Speaker 1: prosecutors laid out what they were accusing JP of doing,
- 46:40Speaker 1: several incidents that had seemed disconnected while Micah was alive
- 46:44Speaker 1: suddenly appeared as pieces of the same alleged pattern. According
- 46:48Speaker 1: to the indictment, the alleged conduct did not begin during
- 46:51Speaker 1: the final weeks before Micah's death. The FBI says it
- 46:54Speaker 1: began in November of 2022, a year and a half
- 46:58Speaker 1: before she died. So the government claims from November 2022
- 47:02Speaker 1: till April 2024, JP engaged in an ongoing campaign of
- 47:07Speaker 1: unwanted and harassing conduct directed toward her. They allege that
- 47:12Speaker 1: he repeatedly contacted her when she didn't want contact. On
- 47:15Speaker 1: one particular day, As I mentioned before, he had contacted
- 47:19Speaker 1: her 50 times. They accuse him of interfering with her finances,
- 47:24Speaker 1: daily activities, posting a nude photograph of her without her
- 47:28Speaker 1: consent online. And remember the trackers Micah had reported? Those
- 47:32Speaker 1: were now included in the federal criminal indictment. And remember
- 47:36Speaker 1: the problems with her tires? That incident appears too. And
- 47:40Speaker 1: the allegation surrounding the tires is also directly connected to
- 47:43Speaker 1: the second federal charge. So... the tires is a big
- 47:48Speaker 1: thing with JP lying to investigators. So they asked him
- 47:52Speaker 1: if he had damaged her tires and he denied doing it.
- 47:56Speaker 1: But they alleged that the statement was false because according
- 47:59Speaker 1: to the Department of Justice, they uncovered evidence showing that
- 48:02Speaker 1: JP had purchased a tire deflation device online. And they
- 48:07Speaker 1: also say they found messages he sent to other people
- 48:09Speaker 1: concerning her vehicle. The government therefore alleges JP lied to
- 48:14Speaker 1: investigators when he denied damaging her tires. Think back to
- 48:17Speaker 1: Micah on March 11th, 2024, the early morning report about
- 48:21Speaker 1: her tires and the second call to the police about
- 48:24Speaker 1: the harassment and the tracking devices. Now, federal prosecutors allege
- 48:29Speaker 1: that at least some of what she was reporting was
- 48:31Speaker 1: part of a deliberate cyber-stalking campaign. To be clear, JP
- 48:35Speaker 1: has not pleaded guilty, and he is entitled to the
- 48:37Speaker 1: presumption of innocence, and the prosecutors will have to prove
- 48:41Speaker 1: their case. I think another thing about this kind of
- 48:45Speaker 1: circling back to how he was using her mental illness
- 48:49Speaker 1: against her, or I guess how there are two very
- 48:51Speaker 1: different sides of the story. The tracking devices are a
- 48:53Speaker 1: perfect example of this because JP acknowledged that he hired
- 48:57Speaker 1: a private investigator, but his explanation is that it was
- 49:01Speaker 1: because he was worried about her mental health and that
- 49:04Speaker 1: it was to protect her and make sure she didn't
- 49:06Speaker 1: buy a gun. But the federal prosecutors see it as
- 49:10Speaker 1: something very different. They're saying that you were stalking her,
- 49:13Speaker 1: following her, and you hired him so that you could,
- 49:16Speaker 1: you know, know about her whereabouts, and... use it against
- 49:20Speaker 1: her and i think this brings up a broader question
- 49:23Speaker 1: that her family is also bringing up is why is
- 49:26Speaker 1: so much of this behavior apparently difficult to address while
- 49:29Speaker 1: she's alive it shouldn't have to result in suicide or
- 49:34Speaker 1: somebody dying we should be able to take steps before
- 49:37Speaker 1: that basically So I think another very important thing that
- 49:42Speaker 1: came out of Micah's case is that when most people
- 49:44Speaker 1: hear the word domestic violence, we picture something physical, a bruise,
- 49:48Speaker 1: a black eye, something a police officer can photograph. But
- 49:52Speaker 1: Micah's family argues that her case shows what can happen
- 49:55Speaker 1: when abuse does not fit neatly into that model. Because
- 50:00Speaker 1: Micah wasn't only describing one incident. It was a pattern.
- 50:02Speaker 1: She was being monitored. Her life was being interfered with.
- 50:06Speaker 1: He was isolating her from everybody. He had rules controlling
- 50:09Speaker 1: her daily life. And according to her family and friends,
- 50:12Speaker 1: years of emotional and spiritual manipulation. And that broader pattern
- 50:17Speaker 1: is often described as coercive control. After Micah died, her
- 50:21Speaker 1: family and advocates began pushing South Carolina lawmakers to recognize it.
- 50:25Speaker 1: And that effort became known as Micah's Law. In April 2025,
- 50:30Speaker 1: South Carolina State Senator Stephen Goldfinch introduced Senate Bill 588.
- 50:36Speaker 1: And this bill proposed creating a specific criminal offense for
- 50:40Speaker 1: coercive control. It's supposed to address issues involving divorce, stalking, harassment,
- 50:46Speaker 1: and custody. As of September 2026, Micah's Law has not
- 50:50Speaker 1: yet become law in South Carolina, but supporters have said
- 50:54Speaker 1: they intend to keep pursuing coercive control legislation. And I
- 50:59Speaker 1: think this is where we have to resist the temptation
- 51:01Speaker 1: to look backward and say, if Micah's Law existed, Micah
- 51:05Speaker 1: would still be alive. Because we can't know that. We
- 51:08Speaker 1: can think it, though. So, where do things stand now?
- 51:13Speaker 1: There's one part of JP's life and story that I
- 51:17Speaker 1: think we need to talk about a little bit. Kind
- 51:20Speaker 1: of another wrench in things that definitely gets talked about
- 51:23Speaker 1: in the documentary. But, JP has... Since remarried, his current
- 51:30Speaker 1: wife is Susie Skinner, and Susie was not someone who
- 51:34Speaker 1: entered the story after Micah died. Susie and her husband,
- 51:38Speaker 1: Chris Skinner, had also been members of Solid Rock Church.
- 51:42Speaker 1: Chris was an Army veteran who had been paralyzed from
- 51:45Speaker 1: the neck down after a car accident and used a
- 51:49Speaker 1: motorized wheelchair. According to Micah's friends and family in the
- 51:53Speaker 1: Netflix documentary, Micah believed JP and Susie were having an
- 51:57Speaker 1: affair while Micah and JP were still married. But there's
- 52:01Speaker 1: another layer even to that. So on September 6th, 2021,
- 52:07Speaker 1: Chris Skinner was found in a neighborhood swimming pool after
- 52:10Speaker 1: his motorized wheelchair had entered the water. He died from
- 52:14Speaker 1: asphyxiation due to drowning, and his death was originally ruled
- 52:18Speaker 1: an accident. I should also say the first people to
- 52:21Speaker 1: the scene after he had died was... JP and Micah.
- 52:27Speaker 1: Years later, after Micah's death brought renewed attention to everyone
- 52:30Speaker 1: connected to JP, Chris's death was looked at again. His
- 52:34Speaker 1: family has publicly questioned what happened, although no one has
- 52:37Speaker 1: been charged in connection with his death. And I want
- 52:41Speaker 1: to be really careful here because there has been a
- 52:43Speaker 1: lot of speculation about Chris online. His death being unusual
- 52:47Speaker 1: does not mean someone killed him, but the connection is
- 52:50Speaker 1: certainly worth noting. Because, according to Micah's loved ones, she
- 52:54Speaker 1: believed there had been a relationship between JP and Susie.
- 52:57Speaker 1: So even before she died, Micah was convinced of this relationship.
- 53:01Speaker 1: Then Susie's husband died in 2021. Micah died in April
- 53:05Speaker 1: of 2024. And then a little more than a year
- 53:09Speaker 1: after Micah's death, so June 1st, 2025, JP Miller and
- 53:14Speaker 1: Susie Skinner got married. And they remain together today. And
- 53:19Speaker 1: Susie now reportedly leads worship alongside JP as he continues
- 53:24Speaker 1: preaching to a smaller congregation in the Myrtle Beach area.
- 53:28Speaker 1: So when I said earlier that there is something strikingly
- 53:30Speaker 1: familiar about JP's life today, this is what I meant.
- 53:34Speaker 1: Once again, there's JP, the pastor, and beside him, a
- 53:39Speaker 1: woman from Solid Rock Church who is now his wife,
- 53:42Speaker 1: leading worship. So where do things stand now? As of
- 53:46Speaker 1: September 2026, JP remains free on bond while awaiting federal trial.
- 53:51Speaker 1: which he has pleaded not guilty to for cyber-stalking and
- 53:54Speaker 1: the false statements. Micah's death is still classified as suicide,
- 53:59Speaker 1: and as I just talked about, JP is remarried. Micah's
- 54:03Speaker 1: family is still continuing to advocate in her name, and
- 54:06Speaker 1: they have supported Micah's law. They also participated in this
- 54:09Speaker 1: Netflix documentary. It's very interesting to hear from them and
- 54:13Speaker 1: kind of firsthand, even from Micah, because there's videos of
- 54:16Speaker 1: her too in there, but members of the family have
- 54:19Speaker 1: helped establish Waymakers, which is an organization intended to continue
- 54:23Speaker 1: advocacy and support surrounding the kinds of issues highlighted by
- 54:27Speaker 1: Micah's story. More than two years after Micah's death, her
- 54:32Speaker 1: family is still trying to make sure she is remembered
- 54:34Speaker 1: as more than the final hours of her life. And honestly,
- 54:37Speaker 1: I think that's important for us too, because after spending
- 54:40Speaker 1: an entire episode talking about JP, the church, the police,
- 54:43Speaker 1: the divorce, and the controversy surrounding her death, it becomes
- 54:47Speaker 1: really easy for J.P. Miller to become the main character
- 54:50Speaker 1: in Micah Miller's story, and he isn't. Micah was 30
- 54:55Speaker 1: years old when she died. She was a daughter, a
- 54:58Speaker 1: sister to five siblings, a friend, a singer, someone whose
- 55:01Speaker 1: faith had been incredibly important to her from the time
- 55:04Speaker 1: she was young. And everyone in the video talks about
- 55:09Speaker 1: how beloved she was and how it was like even
- 55:13Speaker 1: worse I forget who it was, but someone in the
- 55:15Speaker 1: documentary saying like, I really wanted to dislike her. I
- 55:18Speaker 1: think it was after the initial affair when JP was
- 55:21Speaker 1: married to someone else and had an affair with Micah.
- 55:24Speaker 1: She was like, I really wanted to dislike her and
- 55:26Speaker 1: I couldn't. Micah spent her final months beginning to reclaim
- 55:29Speaker 1: pieces of herself. And I think if we're going to
- 55:32Speaker 1: remember her, that's where I want to leave her. Not
- 55:35Speaker 1: simply as the pastor's wife, not a Netflix documentary, but
- 55:38Speaker 1: as Micah, 30 year old, finding her voice again, trying
- 55:42Speaker 1: to leave. and trying to make sure that if somebody
- 55:45Speaker 1: else found themselves where she had been, they knew they
- 55:48Speaker 1: were allowed to get out. If you or someone you
- 55:52Speaker 1: know is experiencing domestic abuse, you can contact the National
- 55:55Speaker 1: Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-SAFE or text START to 88788.
- 56:04Speaker 1: And if you or someone you know is struggling with
- 56:05Speaker 1: suicidal thoughts or is in crisis, call or text 988
- 56:10Speaker 1: to reach the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline. And that is
- 56:14Speaker 1: the story of Micah Miller. I have a feeling this
- 56:17Speaker 1: is one we're going to come back to as the
- 56:19Speaker 1: federal case moves forward. Until then, stay curious. Thanks for
- 56:29Speaker 1: listening to Cat Has Questions. If you liked this episode,
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