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• GoFredo: What's going on, y'all? It's Mr. Big Bite itself, Gofredo. And I got my partners here, Kev Lay. Hey, what's y'all doing this evening? How y'all doing? LayTheDon: We hear. GoFredo: Talking about we here. We here. Kevin: Yeah, yeah. GoFredo: We here. Hey, look, we apologize, y'all. This all this on me. I had a little fool poison earlier this week that I had to get over. That's why this video and this episode didn't drop till later on this week. But we're going to deep dive right into our topic, get going. I'm feeling better. So let's lock in tune with this. We're going to open up with you, Kev. You and Philly. Not really a Philadelphia Eagle fan, which is we're going to get into that a little bit later on today. But you and Philly. So let's speak Kevin: Okay. GoFredo: on the noise and what's going on about about the Philadelphia Eagles and Jalen Hurts. How you feel about what's going on over there with them? Kevin: I ain't gonna lie, it's little hot over here right now. Man, it is hot. GoFredo: Yeah. Kevin: You you know what it is, man? When you're Philly's been on a good run for the last couple of years, so when you're a a a championship contender, the pressure's always gonna be on you. I think the real question right now is who is the problem in Philly? you know, we've got the coaching situation, Nick Siriani seems to be caught up whether he's capable of managing this team, is he capable of calling plays? but the pressure is really on Jalen Hurts, man. The media's coming at him hard right now. I mean, I I've never GoFredo: Crazy. Kevin: seen I've never seen the media tear apart a a Super Bowl winning quarterback like this. that's just that's just something different for me. but I mean GoFredo: A Kevin: he's he's having some struggles. He's having some struggles though. I I think the question i is really coming to be you know, is Jalen Hurts capable of of really leading a team at this point? And it's it's it's a shame because I think he is capable. but I think his stats are a little bit in of a question right now. You know what I mean? I think he's seven touchdowns on the season so far. and the offense is looking slow. I think what Philly has to do is It's easy to say. We wanna see them be dominated at the run like they've been, but that offense is looking stale. It's looking real stale. Lay, what what what you think over here, Leigh? LayTheDon: well up until now and and the media has been pointing out it it feels like the Philadelphia Avengers has just been finding a way to win. Like the last minute field goes, the last minute like penalties has been helping them out, like they've been finding a way to win, and I think everybody has kind of caught on to that and that that luck is starting to run out. his last game alone, he was only twelve for twenty seven for a hundred and for n for ninety three yards, excuse me, and was sacked four times. We all know that Juad, but GoFredo: Yeah, two toads though. Yeah, two toads. LayTheDon: but again, Sackfo times is is is is yeah. GoFredo: The Rams like that though. LayTheDon: they they are. The beginning of the season they wasn't, but GoFredo: Yeah, yeah. LayTheDon: but like up until now they've been finding a way to win and it's starting to get old now. And it seems like Kevin: Yeah. LayTheDon: they a lot of their wins have either been from last minute Find a way to win or from teams really messing up and them kinda thriving off other teams' fuck ups. So I I'm honest with you. I think Jalen definitely that that rhythm he had is is gone. I don't I don't see them. I definitely don't see them going back to the Super Bowl this year. GoFredo: Ooh, going is crazy. LayTheDon: I don't see them going back to the Super Bowl for sure. I mean my team's not doing the greatest either, but the fact that they're below the Giants. And the Giants is at the top of the division for once in like shit, maybe like ten years. Yeah, I think I I think I think I think GoFredo: With Jameis Winston leading the charge. Kevin: You're LayTheDon: I think I think the franchise might be they might be gone. That they they might be going down Kevin: Where where's Dallas at LayTheDon: here. Kevin: in the division? Where's Dallas at? LayTheDon: That's not the point. GoFredo: So what? LayTheDon: That's not the point. We're talking about the we're talking about Philadelphia now. We're talking about we're talking about Philadelphia now. Kevin: I just wanted to hear you say it. My fault. Muffa. We gonna stay on time. I just wanna I just wanted to hear you say it. LayTheDon: We're talking about Philadelphia right now. GoFredo: Ain't talking about what Justin did. LayTheDon: We're talking about Philadelphia right now. GoFredo: Hey boy, deflecting is crazy. Deflected is crazy. LayTheDon: We ain't last, I can tell you that much. We might be second to last. We ain't last. That's all that matters. Kevin: We ain't last but we close. GoFredo: well. LayTheDon: We last it's all that matters. GoFredo: Hey, hey, hey, hey, I'm gonna be honest. The only reason y'all ain't last is cause Washington don't got that quarterback. I ain't gonna lie to you. That's the only reason. No, but LayTheDon: That's not the point. That's not the point. GoFredo: look, I ain't gonna lie to you. I think the media's hard on Jalen Hurts, to be honest with you. I think I think all he does win. he's not the prototypical quarterback. He ain't the the pay-domannons, the Tom Brady's, and to bring it to more modern day, he isn't Lamar Jackson. He isn't Josh Allen, he isn't, you know, Patrick Mahomes, he's not any of these quarterbacks, but at the end of the day, he finds a way to win. And I think people forget that they went to the Super Bowl before they got AJ Brown. So they was able to make that happen before they got A.J. Brown. And so when you when you acquire AJ Brown and you get Saquon Barkley and you get this team together. I'm sorry, no. I I believe no, I'm sorry. I think AJ Brown was on that team. I think AJ Brown was on that team. LayTheDon: Mm mm. GoFredo: I think that I think but when you set that up and you get and you go to the Super Bowl without, I'm sorry, Saquon Barkley. That's what I meant to say. you go to a Super Bowl without Saquon Barkley, you add a nice run run style power to your offense to help elevate it to make it flow a lot better, you're able to make some success happen. And so that was like more of a team. But at the end of the day, Jalen Hurts still outperformed Patrick Mahomes. Like in the biggest stage. And it's Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: kinda been like that his story since college, ever since you know, I was getting ready to watch the Nick Segma documentary and whatnot. And so they was even talking about that bench between two of coming in for Jalen Hurts, and it just seemed like how that stigma just kinda stuck with him all the way to his career to the point where the media is just still expected more from him. But at the end of the day, all they do is win. And like Kev said last episode, like Isn't he on his sixth coordinator, seventh coordinator or something like that? Like when the last time they had Kevin: Yeah, GoFredo: a sustainable coordinator that he was able to work with. It's a completely different offense. The offense is changing. They still trying to get Saquon active, get into their new offensive line because they still got offensive line wolves. And don't get me wrong, he's not playing too too good for itself. But at the same time, I think that, you know, they two and two. You know, the media loves to do this. They lost two games. Let's panic. But if the same for some reason his panic button is happening a lot faster than somebody else's panic button we're gonna get into later on today. I'm telling that right Kevin: yeah, yeah. LayTheDon: But here's my thing. GoFredo: now. LayTheDon: Here's my thing. They've been to the Super Bowl, what, two, two, three times in the last what, like five years, six years? Two. Kevin: Tutaj, two ta. GoFredo: I got to. LayTheDon: The fact that they're not even in the the the top five quarterbacks right now is it Jalen's not in the top five right now. For you to have been to the Super Bowl twice, like Mahomes GoFredo: And who's top five? LayTheDon: hell, Mahomes Mahomes is not even in the top five right now. So it's GoFredo: And who hey, come on now. All right, let's chill out. You I cause you LayTheDon: The top five right the top five right now are Josh Allen, Matthew Stafford, unfortunately, Joe Barrow, Jordan Love, and Kevin: It ain't that. LayTheDon: Who's the last one? And then freaking and and and freaking and Jason Herbert. and the top our top five current currently currently, currently Justin Herbert, my bad, not Jason Herbert. We're gonna get GoFredo: You say wait, you wait, I know I I know LayTheDon: into we're gonna get into we're gonna get into Herbert because he probably shouldn't be there for real. But I believe Jalen still falls like GoFredo: Ca I cause you the cause cause you lost your mind putting him in the top five. LayTheDon: Jalen still falls like seven on that list right now. He's not even in the freaking Super Bowl conversation. So we we might have to think about like It it might be Ja it I'm not saying it's completely Jalen, but I can definitely tell you Jalen is not where he used to be. Like Jalen is not like I said, most of their team thriving is is off of other teams' mistakes or them trying to find a way to win. And he's I think he's GoFredo: I mean they they do got a good defense. LayTheDon: Yeah, but again, most of their their wind is thriving off of other teams fuck up. GoFredo: I don't think that's true because Jalen Hurts is Jalen Hurst has closed games out. He has made some really good passes. I just think he just having they just going through their turmoils. They just going through their woes right now. Like they like that's like that's all it is to me. But I'm I'm not I'm I'm more stuck LayTheDon: It's going to be four more lunch here. GoFredo: I'm more stuck on your I ain't gonna lie, I'm more stuck on your top five. And I'm glad you spoke on that top five because that get into LayTheDon: not my top five as far as what the rankings are right now. Those are what the current rankings are right now. GoFredo: Nah, because okay, who your top five? LayTheDon: I don't I GoFredo: Yo top. LayTheDon: I don't have a top five quarterback. GoFredo: boy, because if it hey boy listen, I thought you said your top five was but listen. LayTheDon: No, no, I said what the current ranking top Kevin: I'm not LayTheDon: fives is. I didn't say mine. Cause none of them is on mine. Well, Josh Kevin: I'm I'm I'm gonna say this. LayTheDon: Josh Allen is on mine, but like not on mine. Like he on mine, but he's not on mine. GoFredo: go here, Kira. It's a fine. Kevin: He he's top five, he's top five, he's top five. But LayTheDon: Yeah, but like I don't I don't have him ranked in five. So I would put I would put Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Lamar Jackson and Dak in the same category as far as like quarterbacks go. Because all of them have the same issues. They all make it all the way through the freaking playoffs. All of them thrive in the playoffs and thrive through the playoffs and then get to playoffs and all three of them fuck up. They're all in the same boat, but the only person they talk about regularly on TV is Dak. But Lamar and Josh do the same exact thing, put up the same damn numbers, make it all the way through regular season, get the playoffs and fall off. All three foot quarterbacks. We not about to we're not Kevin: Well well one of one one of one of don't GoFredo: my bien. Kevin: thrive in the playoffs. We we we we gonna say that. One of don't thrive in the playoffs, man. LayTheDon: None of them drive in the playoffs. Josh, Josh makes it to GoFredo: Ay, LayTheDon: the first round and gets knocked out. Lamar and GoFredo: ay, ay, ay, ay Kevin: Yeah. LayTheDon: Dak barely make it to the playoffs. They're on the same level. GoFredo: Are we getting pumps right now? Did she just put a two-time league MVP and a one-time league MVP in the same category with Dacory Jeremiah Prescott? LayTheDon: I know what I said. I know what I said. I know what I said. Josh makes it to round like one and it gets put out. Lamar and Dak sometimes get there, but they are in the GoFredo: No you did you you LayTheDon: same category. They make it to the playoffs and then they can't they can't produce in the playoffs. All three of them. I sure did. GoFredo: You put you put you put you put Dakary Jebediah Prescott in the same in the same category. In the same category as Mr. Action Jackson, Lamar Jackson, LayTheDon: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: and Josh Allen. Two time MV hey look, LayTheDon: Yes. GoFredo: you name three players and it's three MVPs there and one of ain't back. I can tell that right now. LayTheDon: That's not as far as playing level, as far as stats, their stats are very freaking similar. Very similar. The only GoFredo: So you said so LayTheDon: the all the only difference is the fact that Josh has made it further in the playoffs. Twice in the last like what five or ten years. GoFredo: That got two, that got two top five receivers, top, top, top six or seven at the at worst. That got two. If Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen had two top ten res top two top ten receivers, I'm almost positive that they will at least make it to the Super Bowl. Stamp it. Actually, LayTheDon: Okay. GoFredo: I stand by it. Tentos. Like, like, like, come on now. If if LayTheDon: Okay. I'm glad I'm I'm glad you stand beside it. GoFredo: If Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen was in Dallas right now, Jerry Jones would be you would be you would be smiling from ear to ear every single week. 'Cause the things that y'all LayTheDon: I wouldn't. GoFredo: would be able to do look, hey man, I don't know what's with these Dallas which LayTheDon: I'm I'm I'm I'm fully proud of of Dak was capable of. I I'm proud of what Dak did and we ain't gonna talk about that. of of I'm I'm gonna call him Doc Quavius cause like he played like Doc Quavius and I I'm I'm sorry but anyway bruh look anyway we Kevin: She, see, LayTheDon: not talking about my boys right now we're not talking about them we talk about we talk about Jalen we talk about Jalen we're talking about Jalen okay and Jalen ain't a Dak God damn GoFredo: And we clearly are. We clearly are. We clear we clearly are. Kevin: Hey listen. Hey, listen. I'ma I'ma say this. I think I think what it comes down to when we're talking about Jalen Hurts is the problem with his play style is we we want to see him be a pure passer, and that's not his game to be a pure passer. It's just not his game. And I'm and I'm okay with that. I think my problem is coming down to play calling. They're not catering to this man's playstyle. And I I saw this stat line on them. They said that this man has not played under the same offensive coordinator since high school. That is crazy. That is crazy. He's adjusting every single year. Every single year he's making an adjustment. And we're, you know, we're just making these adjustments on his on his play style when his playstyle is not being catered to. I think when we get down to it, it's coming down to the Philadelphia coaching staff. Are they making the right decisions? you know, he went out briefly, you know, he went out briefly against Chicago and Andy Dalton stepped in. My man was ready to come back in the game and and and in coaching, they didn't call a timeout to get this man back on the field. That's not his fault. That is a failure on the Philadelphia coaching staff. Let's call it what GoFredo: Agreed. Kevin: it is. GoFredo: Agree. Now you honestly, bro, I think you're right. You're a hundred percent. Like that's my biggest thing with Jalen Hurts. I just think it isn't he doesn't really tend to the media as much as they I guess they would want to. So he does rub the media a certain type of way. because he kind of controls his narrative for the most part, or his standpoint. He doesn't really lash out, he doesn't really do anything, he just always says the Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: right answer. And at the end of the day, he's just like we all like we all said, he just finds a way to win. in these moments and they just can't seem to can't seem to break him, in in all honesty. And so what I see from Jalen Hurts is that is the way to adapt as the season progresses. that's the one thing we all seen from Philly. They either start they like the the year they won the Super Bowl. They they started off a little rocky and then they hit they just hit something they hit like basically just turned it Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: on and they just kept winning ever since. Like it's a seventeen game season for a reason. It's the playoffs. I think they'll be perfectly fine. this team just finds a way to win, they find a way to win. but he finds a way to win. But my thing is with them is that is just the coaching as well. Nick Sirianni has been on a short lease for a long time. I I ain't seen too many coaches in a long time that's every year is their year to get fired. and and then they don't get fired. Like it's crazy to me, like Nick Syrian is always on a hot seat. Kevin: You the bubble four years in a row. GoFredo: Bro, bro. Hey man. The year the the crazy part LayTheDon: He keeps finding a way to not get fired. GoFredo: is the year they won Super Bowl was the year he was gonna get fired. Like that was the year he was gonna get fired. And then that crazy. Kevin: Yeah, yeah. LayTheDon: He found a way to not get five. He makes his super. GoFredo: and so you got that, but let's speaking on somebody getting fired. I'm glad we just slid into that segment. It's a quarterback over in on the west coast. That I would like to deep dive into. Y'all know how I feel about this gentleman. no disrespect from him. I got nothing but love for him as a human being, but as a football player, I'm tired of the passes they giving him. Justin Herbert. Now, are we gonna blame John Harbaugh or we blame Justin Herbert? Let's kinda dig into that. Okay, Lei, what why you say both of them, Lei? LayTheDon: Both of them. Both of Both of them. I'm honest with you. Justin Herbert, it first of all, this hype for this man is is ridiculous because like GoFredo: To say. LayTheDon: What Kevin: Yeah. LayTheDon: what are we talking about here? Like this man gets every pass in the world. And I'm like, d this is this is the quarterback. This is y'all this is y'all this y'all example. This y'all this y'all man honey grand. Like what are we talking about here? GoFredo: This your man's? Is this your man's? LayTheDon: This this show man, like Kevin: Ha ha ha. LayTheDon: y'all gonna stick beside him, like Yeah, no. GoFredo: Yeah. LayTheDon: the fact that they have him in like the top like five quarterbacks is crazy to me. GoFredo: Every year. LayTheDon: sta statistically wise. And I'm like, Y'all y'all serious? Like are y I the his deathline is is is is worse than half the quarter what are we talking about here? And y'all just keep letting this man keep keep keep going. GoFredo: Keep getting passes. Keep getting passes. LayTheDon: I don't I I don't understand this hype around him. I really don't. I I need somebody else. Maybe somebody else can break that down. I need I need somebody to do some it's he paying somebody. He GoFredo: he for sure, yes. LayTheDon: he paying so I don't know who he paying. I don't know GoFredo: Hey, listen. LayTheDon: if he paying fan I don't know if he paying FanDuel, sports books, somebody. He paying somebody. 'Cause there's no way GoFredo: Talk about fan door. LayTheDon: they keep I don't know who they keep who who who was making this man the hype man. Like, can't like Can can you dive in to help me understand this? Cause I'm I'm still trying to wrap my head around this. Like that's. Kevin: You you know what I really think it is? he is in this generation. If you really if you really think about it, he is this generation's last Well, we ain't gonna touch that. We ain't gonna touch that. We ain't LayTheDon: Yeah. Kevin: gonna We ain't gonna touch that. I we we I mean I could I can say a lot. I I can say a lot, man. That that's a whole other episode. That's that's our matter of fact, that's that's LayTheDon: It's the good Kevin: That's the for the exchange docuseries we gonna do on GoFredo: Ha ha Kevin: Nah, I think I think why he gets a pass, he's this generation's when you look at the quarterbacks in the league, he's this generation's last form of that pocket passing quarterback. And I think that the hype comes from you wanna see that it's almost like the nostalgia of the way he plays. You know what I mean? The problem with that is I I think at this point, I I think his I just don't think his game is is transitioning well into how the league is now. That's that's that's my honest thought on his on his playstyle. I I I like him. I'm not I'm not gonna say I don't like his play style, but I just don't think the way he plays the game of football LayTheDon: Yeah. Kevin: is going to be he's not gonna be successful the way you want to see him be successful. The unfortunate part is, well there's there there there's You know, is she we're not gonna touch on that, but the problem is, you know, LayTheDon: Okay. Kevin: when you want you you I think I'ma say this, from our previous our previous topic, I think his playstyle, I think we wanna see that playstyle out of Jalen Hurts, and we don't get that playstyle. And I think that does create more of a problem, especially the media, man, they gonna gas it up anyway. Let's let's be honest. GoFredo: Yeah, agree. Agree. I think what I think you said something funny, that w not funny but interesting. I think with Jalen Hurts, I think with him, it's to to piggyback off that I don't mean a deep dive, but you said something that clicked into my mind with Jalen Hurts. I think with Jalen Hurts is so intriguing about him because like you said, he's not a pocket passer, but he's a pocket passer to us like when it's time to be one. Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: He's not really a a mobile quarterback, but he's a he's a mobile quarterback when it's quote unquote time to be one and whatnot. So it's just one of those weird things to where, you know, it's like Patrick Mahomes has the cannon and whatnot, but he also has mobility as well. Lamar Jackson has the mobility. He's shifty. They want to be a receiver, but Lamar Jackson also has a cannon and he can bomb it the X amount of yards and whatnot. He can throw it on a rope. And so you got that Kevin: Okay. GoFredo: like Josh Allen. has a has has the same has a stronger has a his a big arm, but he's also mo but he's also athletic and he just finds a way to make things happen because his big stature. And so when I look at with with Jalen Hurts, he does it have any of those that is his strength. It is just I don't wanna say he's just the average is terrible, but he's just good and then really good at all of these things at one time and whatnot. It's just not nothing he really excels at and when when you looking to Justin Herbert is just one of those things where he has those same thing. He has the arm. He has the the quote unquote QB look of, you know, what they like their quarterbacks to look like. The si not even just the, you know, the skin tone, but the six six, the the frame, the the somewhat sneaky athletic ability where he can make something happen and whatnot. But it's just to me it's just the decision making. It's the I don't know. I wanna Like it's I don't wanna say the will to win because you never wanna I don't never wanna disrespect a man or how you know what they put on the football field. But at the same time it's just that extra off that they wanna see guys make happen that put your team on your back and make a play happen and whatnot. Like if you're not doing good statistically passing the ball, you using your legs, using your wheels, you're using all athletic ability, your tangibles. Yo, X, Y, and Z to make you that guy and whatnot. So with me, with him, it's just I just can't seem to understand it. Like everybody just keep looking at this project. And then, but like, like we talked about, like, man, we are we I mean, we're year six. Like, Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: what are we doing? We're this is year six right now. Like Justin Herbert's has started the season. They're 0-4. First of all, let's get that out the way. The Charters are lost at the Los Ros Angeles Charters are 0-4. A team that people were saying consider contenders and they that's they they they finna take that next hump. John Harbaugh finna make things happen and they're 0 and 4 and he is seventy one. I mean, yes, 71 for 119 with a fifty nine point seven completion percentage. he has eight hundred and sixteen yards. He has four touchdowns and six interceptions. Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: Like this is like LayTheDon: This is crazy. We only own game four. GoFredo: Like what are we talking about? And he's Kevin: That's GoFredo: and he has and he has six sacks so f twelve sacks so far. And so to me it's just like what's going well, I know the LA media like to go crazy and do they thing, but like come on now, like what's going on? Why is why does this man keep getting these passes? Why is everything even swept on the rug? He is playing awful. Like like this is not even Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: like we talked about like Kelly said Jalen Hurst stats. Jalen Hurst at least got what is he? Jalen Hurts got it, like he's a he's he has 713 yards, but he has seven touchdowns and three interceptions. So say what you want about Jalen Hurts. He doesn't really turn over the ball. I'm not sure of how many fumbles he LayTheDon: No, no. GoFredo: has, but he doesn't turn over the ball. Justin Herbert has six. Like, six. We're in week, what, four? Like, it's only been played four games. Like, come on, man. Kevin: Yeah, yeah. GoFredo: And so, like, and it's like, and then two of those teams I give you. Like two of those teams I give you that they lost they lost to and whatnot. the Bills in Seattle, I give you that. But the Raiders and the Cardinals, like come on, man. I'm sick of like I said, I'm sick of tired of the passes that he's getting. It's over and over again. It's like everybody just waiting. And then I feel like one of these games, he's gonna have one of them games, and then they're gonna go crazy. See, this is the this is the this Kevin: Yeah, yeah, yeah. GoFredo: is this is it. This is it. And they're gonna end up playing Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: like probably like no disrespect to Tennessee Titans. Like that's one of the or the Jets. One of the low t one of the low conference teams, something like that to get his confidence and the media gonna go crazy and this is the guy we want. This is the guy we're looking for. And it's gonna Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: be one of those things. So I'm getting tired of the passes honestly. Justin LayTheDon: it's GoFredo: Herbert Jubbert Justin Herbert, the way he that just plays right irritates me. But I want to ask y'all a more a more serious question about something that that won't irritate none of us. Or may or maybe it will. Kansas City Dynasty. Is Kevin: Mm. GoFredo: it back? Four or no? LayTheDon: Hey no. GoFredo: You don't think so, Late? What go ahead? Like you answer that quick. Why not? They four or no. LayTheDon: Mahomes has not been playing well. He had out of out of out of the out of the four games that he played, he only has one game with decent stats. His stats are have been primarily low, and he's also been thriving off of other teams fuck ups. That like he's GoFredo: True. LayTheDon: winning. Don't get me wrong, he is winning, but Mahomes' stats has not been great. Like he's he hit, especially the first two games, he was playing like ass. GoFredo: Kenneth Walker going Kevin: Well, GoFredo: I th the Kenneth Walker going crazy. LayTheDon: He I mean he's four. Don't get me wrong, he's four and He's finding a way to win. I Kevin: Mm. LayTheDon: think he's kinda selling in that same pocket that has Jalen Hurts now, but no, I don't they it's not he ain't going to Super Bowl. GoFredo: Whoa. Kevin: Hey Fredo, you said something already. You you you took the words right from me. This is the LayTheDon: He's not going to Super Bowl. He's not going to the Super Bowl again. Kevin: first time in and I'm talking peak Patrick Mahomes' career that Kansas City has an established run game. I think it's just an adjustment GoFredo: And it's scary. Kevin: that's being made. I think it's just an adjustment that's being made, but I think as the season goes on, I think Kansas City is gonna be a problem because once they find that bounce of that pass to run ratio. LayTheDon: Mm. I don't see it. Kevin: I think I think we're gonna see I think we're gonna see a serious offensive threat. Especially if they stay healthy. GoFredo: I you want to be honest with you? I think that I I honestly think that we're pretty much there. I don't want to say the dynasty is back. just because I think Seattle still has still has something to say about that. That defense is still absolutely Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: amazing. it would be interesting to see Kenneth Walker the third go against his old his old team. So that'd be interesting. I don't I'm not saying a super bowl, but I'm saying in general. It'll be interesting to see that. It's still a long season. Let's see what the Rams try to do. Defensively, the Rams starting to pick it up. They get Miles Garrett back. He get him some something on the belt. So I'm not saying that they back. But they they boy, they damn dangerous. They damn dangerous. They Patrick Mahomes get fully healthy. I think that Patrick Mahomes still has LayTheDon: They're computable, but I don't think they back. GoFredo: to it still almost has to overcome certain things. I think the run game is is extremely dangerous. What Kenneth Walker the third is doing in Kansas City is offensive player of year voting numbers. Like honestly, I the way he's playing, honestly, if he keeps going down this path, the way he's running, the way he's handling business in Kansas City, they continue to win. I wouldn't be surprised if he went offensive play of the year. I'm just gonna be honest with you. Just because of notoriety and the media that's surrounding Kansas City, he's clearly the vocal point of the reason. Like he has something to prove and he's proving it. Like he definitely proved that man's running angry. So when when I look at them, I don't wanna say it's back, but at the same time, they're gonna definitely make some noise. Like for sure, for sure. Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: They're gonna have some team scary for sh they're gonna have some team scary because you stop Kendall Walker the third and if Patrick Mahomes can kinda at least get it going and whatnot. I mean, obviously like the season already started, he's gonna be able to he's taking less hits because they have Kenneth Walker. So it is an ability of a little more health because they now, like Kev said, a good balance of running pass. I mean a beautiful balance of running pass. So it's gonna be interesting to see. But I don't know if they back. But boy Kevin: I think I think we gotta give Andy Reid some credit though. LayTheDon: Like I said, they're computable. I don't think they're back, but they're computable. Kevin: Yeah, yeah, well we we GoFredo: What'd you say, K? Kevin: we we gotta give Andy Reid some credit. LayTheDon: Like he's gonna like they gotta they like they gotta I feel like they're good enough to where they gonna put some other people out of the playoffs, but I don't think they're gonna gonna make it there. Like I don't I don't I don't I don't see that happen. Like unless they gonna find trust me, it it's it's coming. They're not making it. No. GoFredo: So wait, you don't think you don't even think they gonna my bad, I got my I got this thing messed up. LayTheDon: Like they're like I said, they're it we're only in week four. Well, we're going into week five. Trust me. It ain't right GoFredo: Well they five and They five and LayTheDon: now. Yeah, who who have they played so far? GoFredo: They hey look, the rate is legit. I think the rate is for real. LayTheDon: The Raiders. GoFredo: I think the I honestly think the rate is out for real. LayTheDon: This year which which is which is crazy to say that the Raiders are legit, which which is wild to say. The Raiders actually look GoFredo: I think the ratings are for real. I didn't I don't think nobody expects to re LayTheDon: good this year, which is wild to say. GoFredo: Yeah, I think that nobody expected them to look as good as they look. which is crazy. But I think the Raiders I I are for real, they had a good they had a good game Sunday. they I mean the damn LayTheDon: Are the right are the Raiders in Kansas City the same division? So they gotta see they gotta see them again? okay. GoFredo: Yep, it's the Raiders, Kansas City, the Broncos, and I forgot who the f the fourth team was. Kevin: Chargers. GoFredo: The tr yeah. I wanted to forget that week, yeah, that's why. Kevin: No, what I was gonna say was I think that we gotta give we gotta give Andy Reed his his props because he's making adjustments. GoFredo: yeah, for sure. Kevin: He's making adjustments and with limited weapons. LayTheDon: Yeah, we're gonna do it. Kevin: With limited weapons and they're performing. You know what I mean? I I I we gotta we gotta really credit that coaching staff because they're producing on and you look at that roster. This is not a roster that you're looking at and says, All right, this is a winning football team the NFL right now. GoFredo: Not f not not four and I don't I don't think I don't see them four or no. Kevin: Not four and right. Right. Competitive, but not four and GoFredo: Not four and yeah. I think that I think overall when I look at this roster, I expected them to be more of a two and two. I didn't think that Patrick Mahomes would look the way he looked. I unlike Lei, I think Patrick Mahomes has looked pretty sustainable and pretty good. actually coming off that injury, especially coming off of what people thought he wouldn't even start the season. And so for them to be at this point it Kevin: I didn't think he was coming back. Yeah. GoFredo: being four no is is insane to me. And I think it's I mean it's more on the legs of Kenneth Walker the third than it is anything else. But at the same time, I think he's playing sustainable football as a quarterback where he's managing the game. He's still making plays. He's still making things happen. He may not be in full wild flash Patrick Mahomes of the past, but shit, even a percent even, you know, even him dip down is still better than a lot of these motherfuckers. I'm sorry. A lot of these people I almost said something. A lot of these people LayTheDon: He's playing sustainable football. He's not playing exceptional football. That's what I'm saying. He's playing just enough to to win. He ain't playing enough to bring somebody out the water. GoFredo: Hey, Lei, let me tell you something. When you got, when your running back is, I'm gonna give you the four games. They played the Broncos, the Colts, and the Dolphins. Kenneth Walker LayTheDon: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: had 23 touches, 173 yards, and one touchdown. He had 24 touches, 117 yards, no rushing touchdowns. Against the Dolphins, and that was the game you were referring to, I believe that was the game Patrick Mahomes actually went off. But he had 18 touches, 70 yards. One touchdown, and then this last previous game, he had 22 touches, 177 yards, and two touchdowns. I'm okay with Patrick Mahomes being chill out. I'm okay. I'm okay. If I'm Andy Reid and Eric B and me, and and they and then that's another one. They got the big three back together. They got they got they got the team back together. Eric B. Andy Reid, Spags. LayTheDon: That's gonna be enough for regular season, but that's not gonna that's gonna be enough for regular season, but that's not gonna be enough for playoffs. That's not that that's not gonna like that's not gonna be enough for playoffs. GoFredo: Hey, hey, hey, and I had Tyree heal. I had Tyree heal out there. Kevin: I heard a hint of a of a Tyree Kill reunion. Yeah, you're right. You're right. GoFredo: I heard Tyreek Hill out there. Tyreek Hill said LayTheDon: Okay. GoFredo: he's willing to come home. You know. LayTheDon: Okay. Kevin: Well this the thing though, Tyree Kill he GoFredo: You know, Kansas City did just lose. Kevin: he ain't wanna leave. He didn't really wanna leave. GoFredo: He wanted his bag though. I I respect it. Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: And he from my and he from and he from that area. So it just made sense. You get a bag, you get to go to the I think he's from that area the way he Yeah, he is he is a Florida boy. LayTheDon: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: and so he fr so I mean I go back, then I go back to the crib and I just got a bag. And if I'm not mistaken, Florida got no no state income. Yeah, I'm trying to go back Kevin: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. GoFredo: and then it's Miami. Like what else we talking about? It's Miami. Like It's Miami. Come on, go. Miami with a bag is crazy. Like Miami with a bag is crazy. But no, Kevin: Is GoFredo: I didn't I didn't I What do you say, Kell? Kevin: Go, go, go, go. GoFredo: No, I was gonna say and then that opened up because they just lost a one receiver, Taquan Thornton Thornton. it looked like he broke his ankle on that on that. Yeah, it LayTheDon: That ankle injury was disgusting. GoFredo: looked like he turned it. or they landed on it and it popped out. It look you know, prayers out to him. I ain't gonna get too graphic or what what happened with it and whatnot, but yeah, it looked like it it like popped out and whatnot. So and then it looked like he was gonna have him again too. Yeah, I think he ended with two catches with seventy yards and w with that bomb. nice up and coming receiver. Hate to see that, you know, that happen. I hope the hurt hope the surgery goes well and everything, you know, for the exchange with you nothing but prayers. But yeah, that's a that's a hurder, boy. Especially on the big play. My man's got up and celebrated and didn't even LayTheDon: Remember, gotta celebrate it and feel clean back like, whoa, wait a minute. That's the other way. GoFredo: It's almost like he looked down and peeped it. And he w that's when he realized that like what happened. Like he like he looked down and he got up celebrating and I think he it's like it almost like he felt like he was off a little bit. And then looked down and it was open. So LayTheDon: That angle is pointing the opposite direction. Yeah. I yeah. GoFredo: It was and it wasn't him doing it. That was the thing. It was it was and it wasn't him doing it. That's the catch twenty-two about LayTheDon: One loan. GoFredo: it. So that opened up the door to Tyreek Hill, honestly. Or any other vet. You know, OBJ, but I just seen he got signed with the Vikings. I seen OBJ just recently. Yeah, he got signed with the Vikings on the Kevin: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. LayTheDon: He got some of the bikes? I didn't even pick that one. GoFredo: practice squad. Congratulations to OBJ. I know New York tried to play my boy. New York trying to think they they think they too good. LayTheDon: They really they let him go away. I I Kevin: I'm still upset about that. I'm still I'm still upset LayTheDon: d I did not I didn't see that coming Kevin: about that. And and and LayTheDon: at all. GoFredo: Yeah. Kevin: you know you know what got me about it was how do you say that somebody didn't give you enough? You didn't put in the you didn't put in the game, man. My man didn't get any touches. What do you mean he didn't give you enough? GoFredo: You didn't give him enough. You didn't even give him enough. You could have my thing is it wasn't like you charging him a crazy bag. The media that comes with it, you know what it was? I think the media outweighed the cost of having him on the roster. Because at the end Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: of the day they wasn't gonna be able to give him the ball. They wasn't gonna be able to cause like sh all due respect to Jameis Winston, but they pa they not finna go out here and pass the ball twenty to thirty times like they was with Jackson Dark. Kevin: No. GoFredo: And have him in a rotation like that. so I just think that they know where they're going. The media does the media attention in New York would have been buzzing about him being out there, giving him some Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: old touches, certain things. you know, I think the business side of things played a factor. Like I said, I'm not happy about it either. I still at the end of the day think that it was bogus. I think that you could at least let him finish the season out and LayTheDon: Yeah. GoFredo: whatnot. I believe that over anything. but Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: like I said, I'm not in New York to know the To foot on the ground media and all that stuff that they gotta answer. I'm not in a, you know, on the Giants fan page like that to know all that. But at the end of the day, I think you could have let the man retire, in my personal opinion. I I what else you bring him there for? Like Kevin: Exactly. GoFredo: what like what else you bring him there for if that if that wasn't the case and whatnot. So and then I don't know if y'all seen OBJ, he made a statement about it. Like he made a long IG post. Kevin: Yeah, I saw that. LayTheDon: Yeah. They call him all fire too. GoFredo: Yeah. They made a long IG post about it. I was so I was so like I was surprised he left because it also said he retired. Then he signed with the Vikings practice squad. I was like, wait a minute. Hold on now. And the Vikings, hey boy, they might be shears. Todd, they they might be she not Todd, Kyler Murray and them boy, that defense look for real. LayTheDon: Yeah. GoFredo: But no, speaking of somebody that's a little bit, another team that I want to ask y'all about to get a little bit more, see if they for real or not. there's a lot of hiccups around them. There's a lot of who was gonna be the starting quarterback, who we wanted, who we thought about. a lot of conversation going around this team for the last what year, I believe, or two, even multiple, since signing this gentleman. the Browns and Deshaun Watson, they traded Miles Garrett. They have Shador. They drafted Dylan Gabriel. They signed Joe Flacco last year. It's been a roller coaster of so much going on. Jared Judy and the media. Like, man, what what can't go wrong? New coaching staff, is he, you know, I mean new head coach. G got rid of Stefanski. What's going on? The Browns is three and one though. Out of all that, out of everything that happened. The Browns just end up three and one. They lost their season opener and they have been on a three game winning streak ever since. Deshaun Watson looks to seem comfortable. It seems that everybody seemed to forgot what's going on. Like they say, winning cures all. The fans that was booing him is the same fan that's cheering for So Kira, let me ask you, man, is the Browns for real? Kevin: Well, I'm I'ma say this. I I think that there was confusion around Deshaun Watson as far as his career. I think that it I and and I say that because Deshaun Watson was a winner. He was a winner before he came to Cleveland. This guy played good football GoFredo: Yes. Kevin: before he got to Cleveland. So I I was a little bit confused as far as like, you know, did we make the right decision? Now I will say there was a lot of hiccups, you know what I mean, that that came up. so I'm happy to see him I'm happy to see him performing now. However, I think that from for me at least as as a fan, it it's it seems to be a quarterback struggle there because I want to see Shador on the field. I think it's also time one, he needs to get rep. GoFredo: But you Kevin: I wanna see that man I need to see somebody get some reps. But also GoFredo: A man said, I need this I need Deshaun to start losing. I need to start Kevin: You know but at the same at the same time as this, at the same at the same time, you know what? It's it's you know, it's a rockin' hard place because it one side of me, I want that man to get on the field because you do have to start investing in your future. However, because this is the Cleveland Browns, they've been investing in their future for a long time. It seems like you know what I mean? You know Still investing. GoFredo: You've been inve you're you've been investing. Still investing. Still investing. Kevin: And they still invest. You what I mean? So it's a it's it's a hard it's GoFredo: Hey, Able. Kevin: a hard it's such a hard place because they're playing winning football, but you wanna see something else. GoFredo: But do they really do they want to start Shador? Kevin: That's that I don't know. LayTheDon: You I honestly think they're playing with Shador. I think they playing with Shador GoFredo: I just LayTheDon: to play with Dion. Like, I honestly think they punishing the Shador to punish Dion. Like, to be honest with you. Because Shador was doing really good. Like when he plays, he he does really well. But I think it's is them trying to. Like, I hate to say this, but I think they really just trying to play with play with Dion Sanders at this point. Like they just We got your son and we're gonna do what he won't want him just to play in your face at this thing. But I mean I I I definitely would like to see what Shador can really do. Don't get me wrong, Sean Watson is great. He's doing he's doing well. He's he's doing well, you know, but I I ain't gonna lie, I I kinda really wanna see the Shador. I I really wanna Kevin: Thanks. LayTheDon: do I wanna see. I wanna see if he really likes his fall. I wanna see he likes his fall of him. Kevin: Mm. Yeah. GoFredo: Talking about like his father. No, you wanna be honest with you. I think that I see somebody say that it's almost like they just got Shador to to to get Dion the coach in the league. it's just like that you just keep dangling it. We ain't gonna play until you figure out until you come here and whatnot. And you draft you get these hair coaches that's easily replaceable. easily move around and then you get Dion and it kinda come from there. But Dion not leaving Colorado or whatever's going on in Colorado. He's he's yeah, he LayTheDon: We don't really know at all. GoFredo: comes with where he at. so you got that. with me, I don't even know. I thought I thought it made sense, but then last year was kinda like a head scratcher to like even a drafting process when it comes to Shador, it was kind of weird to me. Dylan Gabriel, I get it, you drafted him number three. So you gotta play him to a certain extent and whatnot. You don't wanna break his confidence, but now look at it. But at the same time, also like you let him go out there through them walls, but also I don't I think the Browns put him in a bad situation as well. From a media standpoint, from a team standpoint, from just everything overall. I don't think that he was put in a success to win, getting drafted by the Browns in the first place. And going there and whatnot. It seemed like the Browns wanted the Johnny Manzel's, you know, bonanza and whatnot, trying to get Dylan Gabriel, but it still didn't it still didn't make sense to me how they why they did that. And then should do I mean I should do it. Deshaun Watson is playing is playing a lot better than people thought. Like I'm looking at his stretch right now. he got eight hundred and he's eighty four eighty completions for a hundred and fifteen attempts. He's sixty nine point six percent completion percentage. 850 yards, six touchdowns, two interceptions. He's giving up eleven sacks, but the Browns def the Browns de offensive line is still trying to figure it out. But I'm rattling the numbers off. And as much as I want to see Shadur get out there, and trust me, I'm I'm with y'all. I'm with y'all with I'm LayTheDon: Yeah. GoFredo: with ya. I want to see Shadur. I want to see my boy out there. But Shad but DeStound balling. The sound balling. They winning. Kevin: Yeah, yeah. GoFredo: They lead in a division. No matter what the situation is, I wouldn't even want to put Shador out there just because if he don't if they lose. Now you got this whole big ordeal about Deshaun LayTheDon: Yeah. GoFredo: Watson putting him back in there, setting it up and kind of going from there. I think they at the point now to where the part that sucked being a competitor for Shador is that Deshaun going to win, it hurts you and prolongs you getting out there even longer to the point where something LayTheDon: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: disasters have to happen to where they gotta lose. Like now we're talking about three, four, maybe five games in a row for him to get a chance to get out there. Or Deshaun Watson, you know, I ain't even gonna speak on nothing else. But them losing, essentially that happened, or the unfortunate s or the even more unfortunate side of things. And that'll get him his chance. But other than that, I think they rolling right now, you number one of your division. You look out there, Lamar has an ankle injury. So what's gonna be with that? They dealing with injury issues. Pittsburgh still trying to figure out what they got going on with their quarterback situations. And then I I just don't know what the Bengals doing, to be honest with you. I don't know what they got going on. I don't know. I can't even they just out there at this point. to be honest. Kevin: Hm. GoFredo: They just out there. they need to figure out what they got going on themselves. But Right now with the Browns, they keep staying consistent. They keep doing what they doing to Jacon LayTheDon: Mm, good. GoFredo: Deshaun bless you. And Deshaun Watson keep playing the way he's playing. Shadow might not play till next year. And depending Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: on how they end the season, he may not play into the after that, to be honest with you, just or somewhere Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: mid season, depending on how they end this season. Because if they end the season with even just a wild card, I'm I'm likely to bring Deshaun Watson back. Honestly. LayTheDon: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: I'm likely to bring Deshaun Watson back and then continue to have Shador just learn behind. Which which also works for Shador to a certain extent as well. Because his his his value, his his value of what he will cost will go up because you'll get to looking around the league and now all of a sudden instead of you can mess around and get you a second or maybe first round for Shador this cup coming off season or whatnot, depending on how things play out or maybe next season. So I mean It sucks because we definitely all wanna see him play. He played pretty good in the preseason. I think that he can, you know, be a really good quarterback in this league, but man, they rolling right now and they number one. And Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: the way the division's set up, it's looking like they gonna be able to I know that I know the season just early. I it's I mean, I know the season's early, but I wanna see Shadoa. Kevin: I think I think I think Deshaun has proven himself as the starter right now though. I don't think we can argue I GoFredo: Yes, hands down. Kevin: don't think we can argue with the stats and the performance of the team. LayTheDon: The argument he is. Yeah. GoFredo: Yeah. I don't think we can I don't think we can argue that anymore. I think the argument for Deshaun Watson coming into this year, how would he be, how would he do, things of that nature. I think that was kind of the argument because they was going back and forth with the quarterback situation. But now when I look at it, it's just like Yeah, man, like it's it's pretty much set in stone. He he quieted the crowd. And I I mean I gotta give Todd Munkin credit. He he stuck with sh he's I mean stuck with Shador. Stuck with Deshaun after that after that, you know, bad week one and then they've been rolling ever since. So and then they ain't even got the running game going yet. So like remember last year Junk Judkins entered the gate going crazy. He only got 177 yards. So they get their running game going. Now we're looking at the Browns completely different. I mean, 'cause you know, that defense still cold. Like we talked about it. Like the the Rams upgraded No disrespect to Jared Verse. The Rams upgraded to Miles Garrett because Miles Garrett is already a few we already consider a future Hall Famer. But Verse ain't no slouch. And that defense wasn't just terrible. And it wasn't just like, nah, that defense is still top, top five in the league. They just needed a quarterback. And it seemed like they got one. It definitely does. Without Jared Judy, without their number one really, really, really flourishing like that. So I like what the Browns got going. I ain't gonna lie to you. I really do. I'm I'm you know, we maybe maybe see my boys should do it later on down the season, you know. Let get us some tick in. But if not, you know, I'm I'm just happy they got two brothers on the team that we talking about doing good. That's what it what it comes down to. I ain't gonna lie to you. but speaking of speaking of come on now, speaking of brothers, we got one. we got a brother that wears zebra stripes. They got caught up in some they got caught up in some nonsense and Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: whatnot. And when it comes to the league, and the LayTheDon: Two lovers. GoFredo: league the league suspended him. And then we got a f LayTheDon: It was two of them. GoFredo: got two of them. Got a fellow rep. Well, no, I said we got a brother in zebra stripes. And then we got another. LayTheDon: No GoFredo: He got another that ain't a brother, but you know, he in zebra stripes. LayTheDon: Yeah. GoFredo: But the I think it's the first time I've seen this the league be strict and suspend rest for this situation. So the league the NFL Kevin: Okay. GoFredo: I don't know if anybody if anybody's been up to date on it, but you know, Forty X Shags are up to date on you the on this on these things. The NFL have suspended two league refs. Jeff's the boy this crazy. Yeah, you LayTheDon: Singing. GoFredo: got it. You got it, you got it. and then Hey, hey, hey, I ain't even trying to I ain't even I'm on my bad. Y'all I'm immature. That was childish. That threw me off when I saw his name. that's crazy. the line judge Jeff Seaman was suspended for two games for his incident with Trey McBride, and then Adrian Hill was suspended for one game. and because with with the Vikings linebacker Eric Wilson, Adrian was the brother that got in. to it. I'm trying to he must have had a bad day. Wife must have been in ignoring him, getting on his nerves. Cause that push seemed like it was a final straw for him. Cause he got up. Hey look, we're gonna have to post a video on our 40 exchange so y'all know what we're talking about. But that brother got up and just was like Kevin: Hehehehe GoFredo: boy hey the mess hey hey LayTheDon: He was going. GoFredo: after he was trying to help him up though. That's the crazy part. I think he was trying to help him up. He got pushed into you. And he boy. So I'm surprised that the I've never seen a league be this harsh when it comes to wrestling at this. LayTheDon: Well, I just saw the post is apparently they're trying to fight it right now. So we'll see. GoFredo: I didn't even know. I know the league is union based. Well it only makes sense that the rest of union based as well. So, LayTheDon: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: that'll be interesting to see how they fight that. it's gonna be hard. I think he'll be able to get a chance to come back the Jeff Seaman, I think that his his two games gonna hold up. He told Dra Mc Tray McBride F you. So I don't think it's gonna be hard. And then only just that. LayTheDon: Zelas deléis. GoFredo: Yeah, and then They said the lady from CBS, one of their journalists and news reporters, I'm not sure of her name, end up s Kevin: Okay. GoFredo: like end up confirming it and saying like Training Brown, all he said was, You won't in the game and that man told him F you like dang like I I don't think that's too crazy where I come from. I don't think that's too crazy telling the person that that that you felt disrespect to, but I also understand like it's a job. You can't just say that. You can't just say that anywhere it's kids around now. Kevin: Yeah. LayTheDon: Yeah, you can GoFredo: These kids around. Kevin: And then I'ma say this, I'm I'm I'ma say this though, until until we got the refs mic'd up the whole game, we listen, man, we don't know, we don't know what built up to that. We just don't, we just don't know. You know what I mean? It could have GoFredo: True. True. Kevin: been it could have been anything. So I'ma give them the benefit of the doubt for now and say that was just like the straw that broke the camel's back. I'll I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now. GoFredo: It LayTheDon: Honest, I would love to see a video of refs mic'd up because I've watched GoFredo: Yeah. LayTheDon: plenty of videos of of players mic'd up and they've said worse shit to each other. So GoFredo: Yeah. No, hey, I ain't gonna lie, I think that LayTheDon: so to the ref for the refs to say, they probably say a lot more shit. That's just the first time we legit heard the shit. GoFredo: I think that I think that Kevin: Exactly. GoFredo: honestly, I think they are. I think they just gotta turn it on and turn it off. Like the actual once and name. But he got but at the same time, I think LayTheDon: Nah, like they got they mic on, but you know how like you know how like the players be mic'd up and whatnot. I wanna see a video of them. I cause I'm pretty sure reps be saying some off the wall shit regularly. GoFredo: Yeah. I see I feel like they are. I've I feel like they gotta be mic'd up to a certain extent. We just ain't probably never heard or it's probably never leaked. LayTheDon: No. Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: 'Cause for them to No, I'm s no, I'm I that. I'm just saying I feel like I'm say LayTheDon: I'm talking about like like you know the actual show, Mike, like Mike the like when they legit these Yeah. GoFredo: I'm I I'm just saying that maybe we don't know about it. I feel like the NFL probably got the refs mic up and whatnot. But then again, everybody be suspended. Do what to do with that, that was the truth. That everybody be suspended. LayTheDon: If that was the case, yeah. GoFredo: 'Cause boy, you had some things the ref well not even just the ref, just players say that would get that would get caught on mic, yeah, so. LayTheDon: That's what I said. The players say le a lot worse shit. So imagine GoFredo: Yeah. LayTheDon: what the fucking refs say regularly. We just don't hit it. GoFredo: That's probably why they came like that's probably why they can't mic the refs up. It's because of that. It's because you don't want to catch a mic Kevin: Thank you. GoFredo: bomb. LayTheDon: Only reason they got freaking r suspended is because you could clear it was on national like they they I got the camera angle caught the right angle right as he fucking said. Fuck you. GoFredo: I d you know what it is too. It's like what we talked about with the last episode when it comes to refs and the the changing of the guard with refs and replay center and everything like that. I just think it's to a point now that everybody been wanting refs to be held accountable and everything like that. And I think that then now it looks like we're in an era now where the NFL is doing this to where I wouldn't be surprised now if we see a lot more of these these. Well I don't know why I say it like that. But we see a lot more of this. Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: We see a lot more of this moving forward to be honest with you. And so cause to be suspended for one gang for blowing up for the Adrian Hill guy, that was kinda crazy. I would expect it more of a well, being suspended is is tick typically a fine for them. They're not getting paid like NFL money and whatnot to a certain extent. So getting fined fifty thousand might throw a whole in a f a rest check all the way off. So Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: So missing a game check and kind of going from there. I don't know if any other disciplinary actions happen to them where they, you know, what happens? Like, do they just get slotted back in, you know, into their into their team, into their ref group and whatnot, and kind of keep going from there because that'd be interesting to see how that plays out. What's their next game? You know, the media gonna make it a big deal, whatever game they ref in. Now we finna get things well. Don't be surprised, you're gonna start to see ref reality TV shows and whatnot. Don't be surprised. Like, don't I like this right here finna open up a whole new door for a whole nother different stuff. And this may sound LayTheDon: Yeah. GoFredo: crazy now. When I'm speaking 20, I'm mark my words, y'all. Y'all gonna come back to 40 exchange on this day when it drops. Y'all gonna be Afraido seeing it. Afraid don't see it. Cause watch. Cause watch how the media finna be, as soon as Adrian Hill come back, watch how the media look at it. And then watch when they ref a Vikings game. Or watch when excuse me. He ref a Vikings game. How they how they had a camera, had Twitter, social media gonna angle on him. And then especially with Jeff Seaton with Trey McBride, watch when he comes back. They're gonna monitor him, kind of go from there until the next incident happen. And then it's gonna be it's gonna be talked about, and then it's gonna kind of die out. And then as soon as he ref. Cardinals game, whatever the case like that, maybe they're gonna make it a big deal. Or they might do the, you know, the league might do something in a couple weeks where they like, Jeff and Trey McBride met together, shake hands, might do a 60 minutes. I don't know. Y'all know how the media like to capitalize on this stuff. Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: But I think that the microscope for reps are about to broaden a lot more. And I wouldn't be surprised if we also don't see something like this happen in the NBA. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see something like this happen. I think the the president has now been set. Excuse me. my good. LayTheDon: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: Excuse me, dang. LayTheDon: my god. GoFredo: I'm trying to tell you, I'm losing my voice. I think the president has already been set now. So it's gonna be interesting to see how it plays out. But you know, that's how the that's how the the league going right now though. That's how the league is going right now. A lot of these rats about to be nervous though. Well spot be quiet. Kevin: yeah, yeah, yeah. LayTheDon: They better be real quiet. GoFredo: Well but be quiet for sure. My bad, y'all have to get a little water to get that get that cough together. But look, check this out, man. I love doing this with my partners. I love doing this with my teammates. This is a good segment. We delved into a Go, a whole bunch of good stuff. We'll be back in another two weeks to update all on stuff that's going on. NBA season's kicking off. Can't wait to talk to y'all on next because we're gonna be deep diving into that. The preseason is here now. Has the NFL shaking up? We got a Georgia Alabama game happening this weekend. Hey, we might talk about that depending on how that shakes up. Dallas Cowboys, they got a game coming up. We're gonna see how that pans out. Hey y'all, hilarious, hilarious. But look, check this out. We go deep dive a little bit more into our sports topics. Get y'all more stuff. Be be be locked in, live on our social media. Don't make it vlog. Sorry, y'all. 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