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Fair Territory: Blue Jays & Orioles Trade Deadline pressure, Latest report on Skubal, Luis Arraez future · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal, and we want to open the show by
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  Speaker 1: congratulating the Red Sox on their fifteen game winning streak,
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  Speaker 1: matching the longest Enfranchise history. It is over now, but
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  Speaker 1: it's certainly worth remembering and mentioning, and just a good
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  Speaker 1: way to get into what we're going to talk about,
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  Speaker 1: which is the deadline. And I am here today with
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  Speaker 1: my co host one of my favorite colleagues from the Athletic,
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  Speaker 1: Great Reporter, Great writer, Britt Gioli. Britt, let's talk some deadline.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, Ken, Yes, let's definitely talk some deadline.
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  Speaker 2: Derek Scooble, Obviously you've already written a lot about him.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to write about him. It feels like for
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  Speaker 2: the next two weeks, every single day, our colleague Cody S.
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  Speaker 2: Davenhagen terrific column about Schooble. I suggest you read it
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  Speaker 2: a lot of nuanced to what was going on with
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  Speaker 2: the injury and whatnot. But Ken, as we sit here today,
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  Speaker 2: he is the biggest name at this trade deadline. He's
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  Speaker 2: a name who may not be traded because the Tigers
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  Speaker 2: are four and a half games back of the wildcard,
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  Speaker 2: roughly a thirty percent chance to make the playoffs. But
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  Speaker 2: as you wrote with Will Salmon, there's a unique path
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  Speaker 2: to the Tigers trading him but also not giving on
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  Speaker 2: on this season.
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  Speaker 1: What is that right and the way they would do it, Britt,
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this will happen. I'm predicting this
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  Speaker 1: will happen, but this is something that they have discussed
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  Speaker 1: and mentioned to other teams. The way they would do
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  Speaker 1: it is by getting a controllable starting picture of some
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  Speaker 1: quality back and in addition to that prospects. So what
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  Speaker 1: you're doing there is you're covering yourself for the present
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  Speaker 1: and for the future. You're getting the present value of
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  Speaker 1: the controllable starter who would replace Schooble in the rotation
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  Speaker 1: backfill His innings wouldn't be the same, of course, but
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  Speaker 1: would enable you to still contend. And then you have
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  Speaker 1: that picture for the future, and you have the prospects
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  Speaker 1: for the future as well. Now, if you remember, Britt,
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  Speaker 1: and I know you do, remember this, twenty twenty two,
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  Speaker 1: the Brewers did the same thing with Josh had tried
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  Speaker 1: to make the same kind of trade and it basically
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  Speaker 1: completely backfired. Short term clubhouse didn't like it, fans didn't
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  Speaker 1: like it. They went south with the season, eventually missed
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs after having one of the best records in
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  Speaker 1: the league, and it just didn't work. They got back
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  Speaker 1: Taylor Rogers, he was supposed to replace Hater. They got
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  Speaker 1: some other pieces that ultimately led to good things. Robert
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  Speaker 1: Gasler is now part of their pitching mix, and as
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  Speaker 1: Storry Ruiz, they traded for William Contreras. It all worked
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  Speaker 1: out great in the end, but at the time not
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  Speaker 1: so great. So here are the Tigers with schoobl If
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna have any chance of really doing something this season,
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  Speaker 1: and when I say something, I mean not making the playoffs,
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  Speaker 1: but contending for a World Series title, Schooble has to
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  Speaker 1: be on their team. But if they determine this really
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  Speaker 1: isn't going to happen, then perhaps they do something along
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  Speaker 1: the lines of what will and I reported I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure how it's going to go. It all depends, really,
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  Speaker 1: I believe, on what happens the next ten days or so,
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  Speaker 1: where they are health wise, where they are in the standings.
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  Speaker 1: But they are going to be looking at some interesting
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  Speaker 1: options for sure.
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  Speaker 2: And a lot can change I mean years ago in
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  Speaker 2: Wan Soto was the guy that felt like he was
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  Speaker 2: a name who probably wasn't going to get moved.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously he did get moved.
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  Speaker 2: If teams get desperate enough, if Scott Harris sees a
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  Speaker 2: package that is enticing enough, it is a tough sell
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  Speaker 2: for this fan base, though, Ken, two years ago, they
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  Speaker 2: stumbled in after Scott Harris sold off a lot of
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  Speaker 2: expiring deals at the deadline, went on that magical run
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  Speaker 2: to get into the playoffs. Last year a disappointment, and
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  Speaker 2: now if you do deal Scooble, what are you saying
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  Speaker 2: to your fan base.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we think we're good enough to get in,
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  Speaker 3: but not all the way in.
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  Speaker 2: It is going to be tough to judge Scott Harris's
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  Speaker 2: legacy and what he's been able to do if he does,
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  Speaker 2: in fact trade Schooble, Because of course, Ken, they could
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  Speaker 2: also get a pick for him, they wouldn't totally be
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  Speaker 2: left high and dry. There is value to rolling.
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  Speaker 1: That dice, no question, and I am totally with you
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  Speaker 1: on what a tough sell this would be. And one
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  Speaker 1: of the reasons the tough cell not just because you're
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  Speaker 1: trading a back to back that young winner that maybe
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  Speaker 1: is the main reason. But the other part of this
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  Speaker 1: is the American League as we know, is not good.
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  Speaker 1: So who is to say the Tigers with Scooble, if
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  Speaker 1: they get whole physically, cannot make a run for the
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  Speaker 1: World Series. There is no reason to believe that they
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  Speaker 1: can't based on what we're seeing. Yanks are not invincible,
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  Speaker 1: Rays are not invincible. No team in this league is
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  Speaker 1: even that good. The Red Sox for the worst team
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  Speaker 1: in the league, suddenly they have a playoff spot about
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  Speaker 1: two and a half weeks later, three weeks later. So
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  Speaker 1: this is all part of the stew as you might say,
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  Speaker 1: with what Scott Harris is going to have to figure
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  Speaker 1: out here, and maybe the best thing or the easiest
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  Speaker 1: thing is not to trade him, because you're not disrupting
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  Speaker 1: what could be a playoff n World Series run. No
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  Speaker 1: matter what you do, if you do trade him, you're
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  Speaker 1: not going to be in as strong a position for
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  Speaker 1: the World Series. There's no question about that, or the
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  Speaker 1: playoffs for that matter. So this all has to be
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  Speaker 1: factored in, and you're absolutely right. We've still got a
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  Speaker 2: One team that I think we can both agree on
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  Speaker 2: ken that is trending to sell is the Toronto Blue
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  Speaker 2: Jays and just a fascinating case study coming off the
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  Speaker 2: World Series, a World Series appearance that they narrowly lost.
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  Speaker 2: They came very close to winning the World Series. Bring
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  Speaker 2: back pretty much that whole group just be set with
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  Speaker 2: injuries early on in the season, never found their footing
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  Speaker 2: rank thirtieth right now in runs scored. Just everything that
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  Speaker 2: can go wrong has gone wrong. And you tweeted yesterday
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  Speaker 2: about Kevin Gosman's no trade claus to those eight teams.
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  Speaker 2: None of those teams seem like viable suitors anyway, so
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  Speaker 2: it looks like Gossman would be the guy to go.
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  Speaker 3: When you look at a team like Toronto.
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  Speaker 2: Though they don't have a whole lot of pieces here,
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  Speaker 2: are they going to you think retool here?
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  Speaker 3: And this is not like rebuild situation.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to have to trade whatever they can and
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  Speaker 2: then hope to go for it again next year. And
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  Speaker 2: what can a guy like Gossman even realistically land them?
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  Speaker 1: He hasn't pitched that well, but he's still Kevin Gosman,
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  Speaker 1: and I would expect that if he is out there,
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  Speaker 1: and it certainly appears he's going to be out there,
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  Speaker 1: that the Blue Jays could get something decent for him.
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  Speaker 1: They have some other interesting players as well, Dalton VARs Show,
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  Speaker 1: George Springer, not George Springer of old, but he could
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  Speaker 1: help a team. Jeff Hoffman in the bullpen. What is
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  Speaker 1: shocking about this is that everyone expected, even as recently,
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  Speaker 1: I would say is a week ago, that this team
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  Speaker 1: was going to wake up, was going to become more
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  Speaker 1: of what we saw at the end of last season
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  Speaker 1: into October and really be a factor in the American League.
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  Speaker 1: And right now it's really difficult to see them that way.
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  Speaker 1: So one of the more shocking things in this season,
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  Speaker 1: the season in which we've had a lot of surprises
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  Speaker 1: the other way. The White Sox for instance, the Cardinals,
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  Speaker 1: the Nationals, these are teams that surprised us in a
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  Speaker 1: good way. The Jays have surprised us in a bad way.
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  Speaker 1: And now yes, it definitely appears they're trending towards sellers.
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  Speaker 1: And what Mitch Bannon wrote yesterday about Kevin Gossman just
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  Speaker 1: how emotional he was. He has grown so attached to Toronto,
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  Speaker 1: and now it appears he might go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think there's going to be a lot
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  Speaker 2: of teams ken who at at the last minute, are
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  Speaker 2: going to realize, hey, especially in the American League, we
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  Speaker 2: maybe don't have a shot here. We may buy or sell,
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  Speaker 2: which seems to be like an on the fence kind
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  Speaker 2: of move. The Orioles in a similar situation. They did
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  Speaker 2: beat the Red Sox. As you mentioned, their streak ended
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  Speaker 2: last night. They were able to beat the Red Sox,
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  Speaker 2: but a bad week or a good week could really
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  Speaker 2: sway that team either way.
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  Speaker 3: As well.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like, you know, not to just harp on
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  Speaker 2: the American League, but as you said, they're so convoluted
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  Speaker 2: and they're so bogged down, and every team is so
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  Speaker 2: in it, and this Red Sox streak has made a
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  Speaker 2: team that looked as little as two and a half
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  Speaker 2: three weeks ago to be a bonafide seller, be a
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  Speaker 2: team that had some pitching and had some interesting players
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  Speaker 2: other teams could pillage. Now the Red Sox are going
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  Speaker 2: for it as they should. And you look at this
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  Speaker 2: now and if you're the Baltimore Royals, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what you do here.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you can do anything here.
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  Speaker 2: You had an interesting column mentioning Alie Rushman among several
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  Speaker 2: other catchers. Are they a team that you feel like
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  Speaker 2: is not going to make that decision till maybe a
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  Speaker 2: day or two before the deadline?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and britt their situation is complicated, as you know,
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  Speaker 1: by the fact that both of their catchers now Rushman
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  Speaker 1: and Samuel Bissio, are on the injured list. So here
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  Speaker 1: they are in need of making a push, and they're
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  Speaker 1: not really in great position to make a push now.
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  Speaker 1: They're starting pitching over the last six weeks or so
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  Speaker 1: has been really good and it looks like it's going
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  Speaker 1: to continue to be really good into the near future.
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  Speaker 1: But what are we talking about here? And they're going
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  Speaker 1: to be, it seems to me, in a position where
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  Speaker 1: they're going to have to make a call, and maybe
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  Speaker 1: the call is going to be not to do much
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  Speaker 1: of anything at all. But at the same time, Mike
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  Speaker 1: Elias is a president based operations who is under some
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  Speaker 1: scrutiny now he is maybe in trouble. How will that
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  Speaker 1: affect things? He says it won't. He'll do what's best
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  Speaker 1: for the organization, but what's best for the organization is
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  Speaker 1: not exactly clear right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be fascinating Ken. I'm sure you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: have a lot more to talk about this. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: take a quick break. We're gonna get back to your
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  Speaker 2: questions grilling Ken here in just a moment. All right,
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  Speaker 2: welcome back to fair Territory. We are here with Ken
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  Speaker 2: Rosenthal and Bridge Roli. It is grilling Ken time, which
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  Speaker 2: is great. I should have submitted a question in advance, Ken,
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  Speaker 2: I was slacking, But we will get to your questions,
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  Speaker 2: starting with at Wicked Better fifty four.
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  Speaker 3: He wants to know Ken.
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  Speaker 2: In your latest article, you wrote the Dbacks could face
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  Speaker 2: peril limitations. How much of an impact will that have
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  Speaker 2: on their plans? Also, if they trade a reliever, who
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  Speaker 2: you think it will be.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting they've come on a little bit and we
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  Speaker 1: don't talk about them much. They're not the sexiest of teams,
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  Speaker 1: but they're in the mix here. And the payroll limitations
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  Speaker 1: would be somewhat related to the luxury tax. They're not
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  Speaker 1: that far under it's something like eighteen million, but they're
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  Speaker 1: not going to make moves that would add eighteen million
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  Speaker 1: to the luxury tax payroll. So it's a question of
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  Speaker 1: what their owner, Ken Kendrick, would be willing to do.
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  Speaker 1: And keep in mind, he's already done quite a bit.
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  Speaker 1: They have spent pretty liberally in recent years, aggressively in
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  Speaker 1: trying to get better. And yes, I did mention in
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  Speaker 1: that same article that they could trade out of their bullpen.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure who it would be. This is
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  Speaker 1: all premised on the relievers coming back. The reliever coming
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  Speaker 1: back Martinez, Justin Martinez, and if he will be in
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  Speaker 1: good form now they won't know that necessarily before the deadline.
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  Speaker 1: He's not expected back until early August. But if they
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  Speaker 1: feel that he's going to be back and okay and
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  Speaker 1: I need to contribute in that role, maybe they trade
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, or Ryan Thompson, someone along those lines.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just picking out a name. I'm not saying that's
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  Speaker 1: the guy, but they could possibly do that because they
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  Speaker 1: do have some depth in that pen if Martinez is healthy.
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  Speaker 2: Ken, I know you wrote about this in your article,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm asking you to expound on it a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Video game in Nation twenty six wants to know will
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  Speaker 2: the Rockies trade catcher, Hunter Goodman.
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  Speaker 1: Or not right? And these two questioners Brick Britt so
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  Speaker 1: far two of our regular questioners, so I appreciate them
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  Speaker 1: checking in as always. Hunter Goodman is a guy that
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  Speaker 1: I don't expect the Rockies to trade three years of
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  Speaker 1: control after this one. That's one reason. The other thing
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  Speaker 1: is they are looking at the team like this, who
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  Speaker 1: is going to get us? Which of our players will
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  Speaker 1: get us to our next ninety win season? They haven't
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  Speaker 1: had one in a while, and Hunter Goodmin certainly can
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  Speaker 1: be one of them. Hunter Goodman also can be a
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  Speaker 1: guy who can bring them X, Y and Z that
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  Speaker 1: can get them to ninety wins, maybe even faster than
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  Speaker 1: they would with him. But this is a decision where, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: if they get overwhelmed, they'll do it. But at the
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  Speaker 1: same time, they've got many opportunities to trade him over
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  Speaker 1: the next couple of years if they don't get the
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  Speaker 1: offer they want, so I don't expect it to happen.
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  Speaker 1: He is kind of a pivotal guy on what they're doing.
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  Speaker 1: They're making progress here, and do you want to blow
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  Speaker 1: it up by trading him for young players that are
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  Speaker 1: less proven. I don't know that would be a great
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  Speaker 1: message for them to send. Certainly, though they have a
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  Speaker 1: big piece here and it doesn't have to be today,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be tomorrow. There's no urgency to
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  Speaker 1: move him. But obviously they're gonna listen to everything.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be an interesting first deadline for that Rockies
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  Speaker 2: front office, first year under Paul d but Essa Josh.
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  Speaker 3: Burns Ken, let's talk about the Mets.
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  Speaker 2: Our next question are at Armand is amazing If he
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  Speaker 2: wants to know, Ken, how many players will the Mets trade?
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  Speaker 2: I want them to copy the Twins, but they did
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  Speaker 2: last year and not so certain that's the best team
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  Speaker 2: that we want to be copying. But anyway, they traded
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  Speaker 2: eleven plus players. Do you see that happening?
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  Speaker 1: Armand is another regular brit and we thank him as well.
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  Speaker 1: Eleven players That would surprise me. But certainly they have
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  Speaker 1: things that they can do, and start with the bullpen
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  Speaker 1: with Minter and Rally, the two lefties there are unexpiring
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  Speaker 1: contracts they're going to go. Would Luke Weaver and braz
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  Speaker 1: Demon to righty's who are not unexpiring contracts possibly go Yes,
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  Speaker 1: if the Mets got the right offer, then you have
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  Speaker 1: Francisco Alvarez, you have Luis Robert Junior. All of these
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  Speaker 1: players have been mentioned so far. Lindor, I don't see
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  Speaker 1: that happening. Not out of the question, but that's more
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  Speaker 1: of an offseason move if they indeed want to make it.
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  Speaker 1: And then you've got guys like Vientos and Batty and
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  Speaker 1: even Ronnie Mauricio. Are they part of the Mets future
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  Speaker 1: and could they bring the Mets something that possibly could
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  Speaker 1: help them more down the line. So those are a
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  Speaker 1: lot lot of names there. I don't know if we
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  Speaker 1: got to eleven or not, Britten, but I do expect
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  Speaker 1: the Mets to be active. Oh and I forgot Freddy
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  Speaker 1: Peralta of course and Clay Holmes. Those are two of
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  Speaker 1: the biggest. So yeah, they're gonna do some things. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if they'll get to eleven, but yeah, they'll
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of activity, no doubt.
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  Speaker 2: I am in the trade barras a bond trade weaver.
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  Speaker 2: Camp relievers are so fickle, you gotta do what you
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  Speaker 2: gotta do. Ken next question comes from at Laser Show
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  Speaker 2: fifteen dash U four K. He said, love the show.
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  Speaker 2: The Dodgers' outfield prospects are mostly blocked. Do they have
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  Speaker 2: the best package for Schooble.
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  Speaker 1: They could, and certainly they have four or five outfield prospects,
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  Speaker 1: several of whom are in the top one hundred any
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  Speaker 1: top one hundred list you might want to see, so
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  Speaker 1: they could do some things. If it's not Schooble, or
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  Speaker 1: if it is Schooble now they could also be one
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  Speaker 1: of the teams if they're in the mix for school
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  Speaker 1: but that could offer a starting picture back. It could
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  Speaker 1: be Emma Chen who I mentioned in the column with
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  Speaker 1: Will Simon. I guess it could be Eric Lauer, who
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  Speaker 1: is of course expiring contract, would be a free agent
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  Speaker 1: for free agent kind of thing, but he would be
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: helpful to a team trying to stay in the race.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: So they can do it. They have a terrific system.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: They are a team that really wants to win three
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: straight right before the payrolls restrictions whatever they're going to
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: look like set in. Whether they will do it remains
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: to be seen. You've heard it all before. Andrew Friedman
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: hates overpaying it the deadline. He would rather not. But
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: at the same time, Andrew Friedman and the Los Angeles
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Dodgers like to win, and they've proven that time and again.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: Yes they have Ken. We're gonna switch gears here.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: To the Yankees where JJ lasa JS Lonnie nine six
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: three four wants to know Ken. What will it take
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: to acquire Luisa Rise? Obviously with the Giants for the Yankees.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Giants are going to want either major league ready players
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: or guys who have a real chance now arise as
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: a potential free agent. He's not going to bring the moon,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: but he's having a terrific year. He is someone who
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: I believe, because of his high contact ability, is really
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: a valuable addition to a team. I know he's been
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: a polarizing player in the analytic community and there are
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: people who say it's not the value that you really want,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: But there are a lot of things he does really well.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Some things he doesn't do hardly at all, hit for power,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: So yes, he has value. He will bring the Giants
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: something good, not exactly sure what it will be. And
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know that the Yankees would be a team
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: for him. They've got Jazz at second base already, and
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Eriz wants to play second base, so I would expect
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: this is going to happen. Of course, we all know
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: he's getting traded it's just a matter of where.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think there's going to be There's always
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: sleeper teams, right, Ken. I think the Rais are a
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: team to watch. I think there's some more aggressive teams
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: that you know, everyone loves a mystery team. This could
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: be a big trade deadline for mystery teams. Dudeen dorc
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Is coming up. But let's preview ken Saturday game on
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Fox with Fox.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: One streaming now.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: All right, Ken, let's see what are you looking forward
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: to you here for your Saturday game on Fox.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: I am looking forward, Britt, to the game being played.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: We've had a problem with that on our Fox broadcast
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: this year. We've had three rainouts in games that I've
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: been involved with broadcasts I've been involved with, including last week,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: which was Dodgers at Yankees. This week it's Dodgers at Metz.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: The forecast looks good. It's supposedly going to be Yamamoto
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: versus McLain, a really good matchup. So, Britt, I'm just
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: looking forward to working. We didn't work last week. We
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: didn't work when the Yankees played the Red Sox here
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: in early June because it was rained out. We also
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: had a rainout in Cleveland in April, So I just
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: want to do the game.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Ken, what happens to all your prep work? Does it
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: go into a column?
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Do you say?
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Sometimes? But last week really didn't go anywhere. Often I
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: used the prep work for later things, stories and touch,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: but last week it was just a nothing burger.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Ah. Well, good vibes.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: The forecast looks good for you, Ken, and we'll be
• 19:15
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• 19:19
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• 19:20
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• 19:24
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• 19:27
  Speaker 2: a spot in the postseason.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Then stream the twenty twenty six.
• 19:30
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• 19:33
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• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Stream Now. I'm the dude, so that's what you call me,
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: all right?
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to pair territory, Bridgerilli filling in here with
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Ken Rosenthal, Dude and doyrk of the week.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Ken.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I'm going to let you go first. This is your show. Here,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: the carpet is out. Who are we going with? We
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: always go with dude.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: F We try to hit them with positives before the negatives.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: All right, who is your dude? Who is your dude
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: of the week?
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Ken, My dude of the week was going to be
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: the Red Sox just because of the way they've come back.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: But last night Sal Perez tied George Brett for the
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Royals franchise record in home runs and that is an
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: incredible accomplishment. Sal Perez, He's going to be a debatable
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame candidate. I personally believe he is a
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Hall of Famer and for him to tie Brett and
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: accomplish that in his career as a catcher, that's amazing.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: And he's the dude of the week for that. For
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: tying a franchise record, a big one. Max Months he
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: also had a big accomplishment just passing Ron and Say
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: on the Los Angeles Dodgers All time list for second.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: But I'm going to go with sal as my dear
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: to the week.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: That's a good one, Ken.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: I also give a little hat tip to the Red Sox,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: but I'm going to go huston Astros.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Slugger your Don Alvarez.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I just think if this was Aaron Judge or show
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: he O Tani, you wouldn't be able to leave your
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: house without being boarded by articles about this guy.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: He Homer's last night.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: He is single handedly Ken in my opinion, and the
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: reason the Astros are even considering staying in this and
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: not just selling all these pieces off the season he
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: is having right now in line to be a triple crown.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: That is an incredibly rare thing.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: As well.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: He is just such a fun player to watch. I
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: don't watch the Astros regularly, but if I'm flipping through
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: and he's at bat, I'm stopping. I'm watching. There's so
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: very few players like that. So I'm going to go
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: with him.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Great call, Britta, love it.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: And now you're dork of the week.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Who do you got? All Right, I'm gonna go with
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: a guy that I never thought would win this award
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: because he's been kind of an outstanding player in the
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: game for a long time, a guy who is known
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: for his intellect on the field. It's JT. Realmuto. And
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: if you saw the end of the Phillies game last night,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: the base running blunder that took place, it's shocking you
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: see there, what's happening. Contact play was on Justin Crawford
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: caught in a rundown between third and home. JT real
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Mutto is on third, He's fine. What Crawford needs to
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: do there is getting to the rundown so Brandon Marsh
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: can get the second. But what happened. JT started running
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: back the second and they got him out too for
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: a game ending double play. It was a blunder. There's
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: no other way to put it, and JT took ownership
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: over of it. After the game, Don Manneley said, I
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: don't know what JT was thinking there. I will say this,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: as I often say on this show. We all make
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: mistakes in our jobs, even me, even Britgieroli, everybody who
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: was watching and listening. Everybody makes mistakes in their jobs.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately for JT, this was kind of a bad one.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: Yes, I agree.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Speaking of mistakes, Ken my dork of the week made
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: a big one, probably the biggest one if you are
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: a pro scout.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: It is Justin Boomer Prince.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I wrote a story titled The Baseball Spy earlier this
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: week with our colleague at the Athletic Sam Blum.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Basically, for those who didn't.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Read it, Princetein was hired in the winter this December
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: by the Angels. Basically, they created a spot for him,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: a little bit of an unusual hire. Well, he got
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: caught filming the Colorado Rockies coaches while in the scout
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: section working a game in advance of the Angels Rockies series.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: The Rockies complained to Major League Baseball. Major League Baseball
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: contacted the Angels. They promptly dismissed Princetein. But the whole
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: incident ken is made even more unbelievable by the fact
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: that Princetein has a Twitter account in which he calls
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: himself the Baseball Spy.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: He had a podcast.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: By the same name that had two episodes, one of
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: those episodes talking about your big story in twenty nineteen
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: the Houston Astros cheating scandal, in which Prince tein makes
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: it clear you can legally scout and legally try to
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: get signs with your eyes, but illegal methods such as
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: cell phones are not allowed. Of course, our colleague Dennis
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Lynn later reported that Prince Deein was also approached during
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: a Padres game for the same violation. Look, I'm sure
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: he's a nice guy. Nothing against him personally. This is
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: something you cannot do. I heard from so many scouts
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: that were like, this stuff makes everyone look bad. It
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: makes us look stupid, it makes us look silly, and therefore, princetein,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: I hope you have a nice life, but this is
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: just not going to be the career path for you. You
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: are my dork of the week.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: That's a great call, and it was a great story
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: and the graphic that went with the story was pretty
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: great too, So I don't know that I can add
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: much more. You and Sam did a tremendous job just
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: reporting this out and bringing it to light, and it's crazy.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: In all professions, I guess you have people who kind
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: of go off the rails and do things that are
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: shockingly wrong, and this is one case of that. So again,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: great story and a worthy dork of the week for sure.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Well thank you.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: And do the Angels do anything right? I don't know,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: but there is a little hope there, I think more
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: than before. Molly Jolly in charge. Obviously a new front
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: office in place. It's gonna be we didn't talk about them,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: but it's gonna be an interesting trade deadline to see
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: what they do as well and how they approach things.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Definitely in the sellers, of course. What makes this even
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: funnier The Rockies are the worst team in the National League.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: The worst team in the American League are the Angels.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: That's it for US. Foul Territory is coming up next,
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