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FULL SHOW: Lindsay Clancy's case; Spider-Man is doing great! · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, the Mark Simone Show on 710WOR. Filling in for Mark,
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  Speaker 1: here's Ken Rosato.
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  Speaker 2: And happy, happy Friday. Oh, it's so nice to say
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  Speaker 2: those words, happy Friday. So nice to be with you, Mark.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you're enjoying your nice day off, your nice
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  Speaker 2: long weekend. You deserve it, my friend. It is Ken Rosato,
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  Speaker 2: former TV news anchor from New York City. For those
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  Speaker 2: of you who are from New York, you know I
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  Speaker 2: used to be on Channel 7 for 20 years. I
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  Speaker 2: did the morning and midday shows at Channel 7. I
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  Speaker 2: was on Channel 5, Good Day, before that. And even
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  Speaker 2: it out. ONNJ.com on New Jersey. But anyway, it is
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  Speaker 2: good to be here on Labor Day weekend Friday. It's
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  Speaker 2: one of those days that, you know, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: times you don't want to say Happy Memorial Day because
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  Speaker 2: obviously it's about remembering those who've died for us. You
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  Speaker 2: don't want to say for certain holidays, happy this and
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  Speaker 2: happy that because the holiday means something else. Labor Day
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  Speaker 2: is like we're celebrating labor. We're celebrating all of us
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  Speaker 2: who work. So you could say, happy Labor Day. And
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  Speaker 2: it is nonsectarian. You could say it to everybody. So
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  Speaker 2: go out in the streets and just scream, happy Labor
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  Speaker 2: Day to everybody. Just don't get in their faces when
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  Speaker 2: you do it. Our number today, of course, as always, 800-321-0710, 800-321-0710.
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  Speaker 2: What a mess. If you were listening to the news,
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  Speaker 2: you heard Daria Albinger talking about this and You heard
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  Speaker 2: it all morning, along with the morning show, of course,
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  Speaker 2: we were talking about this, Curtis. I heard Curtis, in fact, specifically,
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  Speaker 2: excuse me as I swallow, talking very specifically about the
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  Speaker 2: mentally unstable whom we have in New York. And Curtis
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  Speaker 2: is 100% right. I know that when he was out
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  Speaker 2: there with the Guardian Angels, he encountered a lot of
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  Speaker 2: them over the years. And of course, there are, it seems,
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  Speaker 2: more and more that we're encountering in public. So once again,
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  Speaker 2: we had a case this morning of a person who
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  Speaker 2: was holding a knife, we assume an emotionally disturbed person.
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  Speaker 2: People near the Brooklyn Bridge on the Manhattan side said
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  Speaker 2: that the first witnessings, if you will, of this individual
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  Speaker 2: was about three o'clock in the morning. And this is
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  Speaker 2: a man who was just flashing around a knife at
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  Speaker 2: people on the Brooklyn-bound side of the Brooklyn Bridge, but
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  Speaker 2: close to Manhattan. And apparently somebody called police and they
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  Speaker 2: showed up about 3.30, 4 o'clock in the morning, finally
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  Speaker 2: between 4 and 4.30. They closed the Brooklyn-bound side of
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  Speaker 2: the Brooklyn Bridge near South and Dover Streets. That was
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  Speaker 2: all closed off. Fortunately, it is holiday time, if you will.
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  Speaker 2: It's a holiday weekend, so maybe traffic wasn't as bad.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know as it could have been, but it
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  Speaker 2: was still pretty darn bad That whole part of Manhattan,
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  Speaker 2: you couldn't get over to Brooklyn via the Brooklyn Bridge.
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  Speaker 2: You had to take the tunnel or go over into
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  Speaker 2: Queens and work your way down. But just an absolute,
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  Speaker 2: of course, the Manhattan Bridge, but just an absolute mess
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  Speaker 2: this was. So police were there doing the two calls
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  Speaker 2: that I know from my relatives. My dad was a
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  Speaker 2: police officer for years. The two calls that a cop
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  Speaker 2: does not like to get. and have to respond to
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  Speaker 2: are domestic disputes because you never know. The husband could
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  Speaker 2: be beating the wife. You go to intervene and all
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  Speaker 2: of a sudden the wife turns on you because you're
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  Speaker 2: pushing the husband against the wall and trying to cuff him.
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  Speaker 2: Stuff like that happens a lot. Any police officer will
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  Speaker 2: tell you. And the other call you don't like to
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  Speaker 2: get is an emotionally disturbed person. And that is because
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  Speaker 2: you don't know how it's going to turn out. By definition,
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  Speaker 2: the person is emotionally disturbed. You could say, calm down.
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  Speaker 2: And many of the officers who respond are specially trained
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  Speaker 2: to keep them calm. But no matter what, you don't
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  Speaker 2: know if the person is on something or off something.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they're off their meds, so they're unstable. Maybe they
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  Speaker 2: just had something to push them over the edge. And
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  Speaker 2: that's why we love our NYPD, because no matter what,
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  Speaker 2: they try their best and they put their lives on
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  Speaker 2: the line to try to deal with whatever the situation.
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  Speaker 2: But this emotionally, allegedly emotionally disturbed person had a knife.
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  Speaker 2: police confronted the person, the individual. The reports are that
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  Speaker 2: it was a man. When the police arrived, the man
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  Speaker 2: confronted and allegedly charged at the police. And we believe
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  Speaker 2: that that led them to allegedly shoot him. Everything is
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  Speaker 2: allegedly right now. We're not getting a lot of confirmation.
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  Speaker 2: So this is the sketch of the story right now
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  Speaker 2: until we get more information. So the Brooklyn bound lanes
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  Speaker 2: and parts of the bridge walkway were closed for hours.
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  Speaker 2: Everything was reopened at 830. We don't know the man's condition.
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  Speaker 2: That's all under investigation. The man could be alive. We
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  Speaker 2: don't know. It could also be that the man was
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  Speaker 2: so seriously shot that maybe they're on the edge. And
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  Speaker 2: that's why they had to have such a massive investigation.
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  Speaker 2: But whenever there's a police shooting, you know that they
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  Speaker 2: have to send out the troops and just take pictures
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  Speaker 2: and measure everything, and that takes hours, and that's why
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  Speaker 2: things were closed. So when we hear that crime is down,
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  Speaker 2: this is the lowest crime summer on record, you notice
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  Speaker 2: they pointed out when they made that comment, one of
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  Speaker 2: the main bases, if you will, that they made that statement,
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  Speaker 2: the NYPD, was based on shootings. Shootings were down dramatically
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  Speaker 2: year to year, but you notice what they didn't talk about.
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  Speaker 3: What?
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  Speaker 2: Stabbings. Stabbings. Where are the numbers on stabbings? Now, for
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  Speaker 2: the last week, it seems that almost every day we've
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  Speaker 2: had another stabbing. And it seems in almost every case
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  Speaker 2: it's been an emotionally disturbed person involved in stabbing somebody,
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  Speaker 2: in some cases fatally, as we know from the poor
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  Speaker 2: woman who was stabbed to death the other day. It
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  Speaker 2: was Monday here in Times Square. So stabbings, are they down?
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  Speaker 4: Hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we know that from these statistics, year to year,
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  Speaker 2: overall felonies were flat in New York. So they didn't
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  Speaker 2: go up or down. And the number of rapes actually increased.
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  Speaker 2: The only thing that went down was shooting murders. That
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  Speaker 2: went down. But what about stabbings? Listen, I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to trade off one for the other. I want neither
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  Speaker 2: one of them. How about that? I want to be
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  Speaker 2: able to get off a subway or get on a
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  Speaker 2: subway knowing that I will be perfectly safe. I could
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  Speaker 2: get on a subway, either stand or sit. And then five,
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  Speaker 2: ten minutes later, get off the subway and get to
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  Speaker 2: my destination. And then repeat when I come home. That's
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  Speaker 2: what I'm paying for. That's why people live in New
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  Speaker 2: York City. They shouldn't have to wonder if they will
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  Speaker 2: or won't make it home or end up in a
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  Speaker 2: hospital later in the day. And the job of the police,
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  Speaker 2: when they're allowed to do their job by a mayoral
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  Speaker 2: administration like we have now that basically handcuffs them at
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  Speaker 2: every angle and every possibility, when allowed to do their job,
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  Speaker 2: they keep us safe. When you have the likes of
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  Speaker 2: Alvin Bragg, Manhattan DA, who says, we're not going to
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  Speaker 2: charge people for these 90% of the crimes. We're not
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  Speaker 2: going to charge them. Hey, you could commit all those
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  Speaker 2: crimes that you want. Because you deserve to be let
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  Speaker 2: go because of past wrongs that have occurred with people
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  Speaker 2: in general who are of color or who lived in
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  Speaker 2: certain neighborhoods or who came from certain countries. As a result,
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  Speaker 2: We're going to not charge anybody for any of these
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  Speaker 2: crimes over here. We're just going to go after people
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  Speaker 2: who murder people. And then the next year he says,
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  Speaker 2: look at this, crime is down. Yeah, Alvin, crime is
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  Speaker 2: down because you chose not to charge 90% of the crimes,
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  Speaker 2: crimes that we used to charge people four years past. Look,
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  Speaker 2: you may love Rudy Giuliani or despise Rudy Giuliani, but
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  Speaker 2: the one thing you've got to admit, and I lived
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  Speaker 2: in New York, not in the city proper, but went
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  Speaker 2: to high school and college in Manhattan. And always was
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  Speaker 2: within 15 to 20 minutes of Manhattan. My entire life.
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  Speaker 2: And I was around during the Giuliani administration. And I
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  Speaker 2: remember you couldn't drive into the city prior to Giuliani.
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  Speaker 2: As much as I loved Ed Koch. You couldn't drive
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  Speaker 2: into the city without a squeegee guy coming up. And
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  Speaker 2: if you didn't give the squeegee guy a buck, he
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  Speaker 2: would slam your windshield in many cases with the squeegee.
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  Speaker 2: Crack your windshield. You don't want to get into confrontations
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  Speaker 2: with them. They had those filthy jokes. squeegees they were
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  Speaker 2: using it was gross they were in many cases mentally
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  Speaker 2: disturbed and um you know if you didn't give them
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  Speaker 2: something you you worried that you took your life in
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  Speaker 2: your hands so it was sort of uh out of
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  Speaker 2: trepidation you just reach in your pocket and you gave
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  Speaker 2: them something well it started with them and when giuliani
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  Speaker 2: came in he got rid of the squeegee guys if
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  Speaker 2: you if you were around new york then you'll know
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  Speaker 2: apparently half of new york wasn't around then these are
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  Speaker 2: Half of the people in New York right now are
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  Speaker 2: relative newcomers, so they've never lived through that. But we're
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  Speaker 2: sort of back in that era where we have people
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  Speaker 2: who intimidate other people and you're supposed to just take it. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: that's just living in New York.
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  Speaker 1: No, no.
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  Speaker 2: We learned through Giuliani and prior to Koch, actually prior
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  Speaker 2: to like Beam, Mayor Beam, we didn't have that. You
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  Speaker 2: could walk around the city and be perfectly safe. I
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  Speaker 2: know people used to keep their car doors unlocked in
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  Speaker 2: the city back in the day. Never had a problem.
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  Speaker 2: No issues. And then when you gradually let, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the old broken windows policy. When you gradually let, well,
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  Speaker 2: we'll let this crime go. First it goes, starts with pollution. Then,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you want to drop your garbage. And what
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  Speaker 2: do you want me to do about it? Then it becomes,
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  Speaker 2: let the squeegee guy do the squeegee. And then graffiti.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if they want to do graffiti on your building,
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  Speaker 2: let them do it. They want to rip down a flag.
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  Speaker 2: That makes them happy. Oh, if they want to do drugs,
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  Speaker 2: want to smoke pot in public, whatever. They want to spit.
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  Speaker 2: They want to urinate in public. They want to be topless.
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  Speaker 2: And then it gets to the point where there are
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  Speaker 2: no laws. There are no rules. And we walk around
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  Speaker 2: in a city that is uncivilized. Listen, the word civilized
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  Speaker 2: comes from the Latin word civitas, C-I-V-I-T-A-S. It means city.
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  Speaker 2: The word city comes from civity, if you will, in Latin.
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  Speaker 2: That's where we get it. It got shortened in French
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  Speaker 2: to cité and then becomes city in English. And so
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  Speaker 2: civilized means living in a city, meaning you act in
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  Speaker 2: a way that you can get along with large numbers
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  Speaker 2: of people. That's what it means to be civilized, to
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  Speaker 2: live in a city. What we have is a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of people living together, but more and more we are
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  Speaker 2: accepting an uncivilized type behavior. And that's something that we
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  Speaker 2: don't have to accept. We don't have to accept that.
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  Speaker 2: But it happens in little increments. Little by little, you're like, eh,
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  Speaker 2: what are you going to do? Live and not live.
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  Speaker 2: No one wants to confront. Before you know it, you
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  Speaker 2: have what you have. And you could say, well, cry, Ken,
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  Speaker 2: largest decrease in crime year to year in recorded history. Well, listen,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not pointing the finger and I'm not suggesting, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not trying to blame, but you know that captains of
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  Speaker 2: precincts and whatnot, The fewer crimes that they submit, the
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  Speaker 2: more of the pat on the back for them. So
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  Speaker 2: you have to wonder in many cases, and I'm not
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  Speaker 2: saying it happened. I have no evidence. I'm telling you
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  Speaker 2: right now. But I have anecdotal evidence from people who
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  Speaker 2: are police, and I have police officers in my family,
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  Speaker 2: and I have police officers who have been friends for years.
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  Speaker 2: And the question is, how many times are the numbers fudged? And, well,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to put this down. That didn't get reported
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  Speaker 2: until the 31st. I'm not going to put that down
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  Speaker 2: this month as part of this statistic. This is really
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  Speaker 2: a misdemeanor. You know what? Let's not charge him. Let's
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  Speaker 2: put it off for a month and see. And then
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  Speaker 2: it'll be in next month's statistics. But that's how things happen.
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  Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, even if it's only
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  Speaker 2: five fewer felonies in your precinct, all of a sudden
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  Speaker 2: it's down. Look, it's down a tenth of a percent
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  Speaker 2: month to month. Because you pushed it off to the
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  Speaker 2: next month and you reported in your paperwork the next month.
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  Speaker 2: That's how it happens. And it's all about making it
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  Speaker 2: look good for the police commissioner. Not that the police
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  Speaker 2: commissioner picked up the phone and said, this is what
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  Speaker 2: I need you to do. No, that is not. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: I can almost guarantee that is not what happens. But
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  Speaker 2: it's sort of an unwritten rule. You kind of know, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you know what? Cut her some slack. She'll cut you
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  Speaker 2: some slack. Everybody's happy. Stuff like that does happen. It
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  Speaker 2: does happen. Again, I have no evidence. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 2: I have conclusive proof. I don't. I'm speaking anecdotally. It happens.
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  Speaker 2: And then, boom, you have a story in the papers
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  Speaker 2: that crime is at its lowest point. Meanwhile, every single day,
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  Speaker 2: it's who are you going to believe, me or your
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  Speaker 2: own lion eyes? We have another stabbing, another murder. You know,
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  Speaker 2: but yet somehow crime is down to its lowest point. Well, listen,
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  Speaker 2: crime has always happened in New York and it always will.
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  Speaker 2: It's a big city. I've been a journalist in New
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  Speaker 2: York City since I'm in my teens, and I'm almost 60, okay?
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  Speaker 2: I've been doing this a long time. But I can
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  Speaker 2: tell you that of late, this is literally a daily thing, right?
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  Speaker 2: We're talking about stabbings every single day in New York.
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  Speaker 2: So when they talk about shootings are down, okay, so
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  Speaker 2: now they're just choosing an alternate means of killing people.
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  Speaker 2: Let's use a knife. And you can get a knife everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: So this, by the way, goes against the argument of
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  Speaker 2: the people who are anti-Second Amendment all these years, who
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  Speaker 2: talk about guns killing people. And if we'd only get
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  Speaker 2: guns off the streets, murders would go down. Guns may
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  Speaker 2: make murder a little more convenient, but people then just
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  Speaker 2: pick up an alternate means. They'll pick up a rock
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  Speaker 2: if they want. There was a guy in Brooklyn on
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  Speaker 2: Sunday who picked up a discarded baby crib and threw
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  Speaker 2: it at a 90-year-old woman, almost killed her, knocked her down.
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  Speaker 2: She broke her hip. I mean, just for no reason.
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  Speaker 2: Just because he was mentally unstable, I guess. but this
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  Speaker 2: is living in the city today and it shouldn't be,
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  Speaker 2: you shouldn't be a 90 year old woman in your,
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  Speaker 2: in your ending your waning years on this planet and
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  Speaker 2: go out like that. And that is just not justifiable ever.
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  Speaker 2: All right. 800-321-0710, 800-321-0710. This is 710 W O R.
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  Speaker 2: Ken Rosato in for Mark on your Friday of Labor
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  Speaker 2: Day weekend. And of course, before we go to break,
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  Speaker 2: we can't not mention what's going on right now in
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  Speaker 2: the Clancy trial. So, Everything's open up. And by the way,
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  Speaker 2: I find it interesting. I'm looking at the layout here
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  Speaker 2: as I raise the microphone so I get a better
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  Speaker 2: look at the TV monitors. Fox News Channel, all over it.
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  Speaker 2: They're in the courtroom in Plymouth, Massachusetts right now. CNN
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  Speaker 2: going back to back, head to head, also in the courtroom.
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  Speaker 2: Then you go to MS Now, totally different story.
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  Speaker 3: Why?
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  Speaker 2: Because they weren't on it from the start. When I
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  Speaker 2: worked at Channel 7, I remember we used to say,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not saying anything out of school here. I
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't do that. But one of the things we used
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  Speaker 2: to say is own the story. So you're in for
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  Speaker 2: a penny, in for a pound. If you're going to
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  Speaker 2: go in on the story, even if it doesn't look
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  Speaker 2: at first to be a big story, you go in
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  Speaker 2: with three camera crews and you own it. And then
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  Speaker 2: if it does turn into something big, the other guys,
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  Speaker 2: they look like they just dropped the ball. So just
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  Speaker 2: looking at this MS now from the start, I guess
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  Speaker 2: they didn't own it. So now they're not even touching
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  Speaker 2: the Lance trial, but Fox News Channel is on it.
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  Speaker 2: So is CNN. I guess they have to have a
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  Speaker 2: presence there. Of course, for those who may have missed
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  Speaker 2: it last night, there was another note brought to the
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  Speaker 2: judge before he finally dismissed them for the night, the jury.
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  Speaker 2: And they apparently are kind of deadlocked because of one person.
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  Speaker 2: And listening to the morning show, Larry and Curtis this morning,
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  Speaker 2: Everybody had their own theory, and none of us knows, right?
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  Speaker 2: We're all guessing. My theory, and I can't hear the judge.
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  Speaker 2: He's talking right now. We'll find out if I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 2: My theory is, you know, the fact is there are
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  Speaker 2: nine women and three men on the jury. Massachusetts is
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  Speaker 2: an extremely liberal state, probably the most liberal state in
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  Speaker 2: the country, more so than California, more so than New York,
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  Speaker 2: I believe. These are liberals who, like the most conservative
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  Speaker 2: person is a mainstream Democrat in the state of Massachusetts,
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  Speaker 2: and that's that. There are no Republicans, period. And my
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  Speaker 2: theory is that the person who is standing out, who's
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  Speaker 2: standing firm, is a man, one of the three men
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  Speaker 2: on the jury. And I think he wants the maximum.
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  Speaker 2: And he doesn't want to listen to the other 11.
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  Speaker 2: So remember the options that the jury has right now.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: They could say, starting at the top, they could say, well,
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: the very, very top would be guilty of first-degree murder.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: which is mandatory life, no parole. Guilty of second-degree murder,
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: which is life with possible parole. Guilty of manslaughter, which
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: is up to 20 years. It could be not guilty
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: by lack of criminal responsibility, which is the other states
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: would call it by reason of insanity. They call it
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: lack of criminal responsibility in Massachusetts because they don't want
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: to say insanity because it sounds so mean. That's Massachusetts liberals.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: And then not guilty. They could literally equip it. That's
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: not likely because both sides agree that she killed the children.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: So you're not going to get a not guilty. I mean,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: one in a trillion that you would get that. So
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: at this point, it's going to be one of probably
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: the four. It's going to be manslaughter, second degree, first degree,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: or lack of criminal responsibility, as they call it. We'll
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: see where it goes. Right now it says, tensions flare
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: as Lindsay Clancy jury prepares to resume deliberation. So they're
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: about to send the jury back in to deliberate again.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: But based on the fact that the defense attorney was
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: upset that the judge wanted to keep on the jury
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: the one person holding things up, that tells me that
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: the one person is the person who wants the maximum
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: thrown at her. And I could be totally wrong, just
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: a guess. Give us a call. Let us know what
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: you think about it.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: 800-321-0710.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Ken Rosato in for Mark. Friday of Labor Day weekend, 710WOR.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: The Mark Simone Show. Now nine till noon weekdays on 710WOR.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Guest hosting for Mark today. Here's Ken Rosato.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, so nice to be with you. It's going to
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: be a beautiful Friday. Ray Stajic makes me smile coming in,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: listening to him talking about sunshine, mid-80s. That's the way
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: to do it. And it's even going to be a
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: little cooler Saturday, Sunday with partly sunny skies and temps
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: in the mid to upper 70s. It's just like perfect,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: perfect weather for Labor Day weekend to wrap up the
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: unofficial end of summer. See, I don't know about you.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: I enjoy... uh, September because things are calmer. Kids are
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: back in school. A lot of people don't go on
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: vacation at that point because they've done their summer vacation
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: in August. So they, um, they are, they're back to work.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: And so that's when I escaped to the beach, my
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: work schedule, I work in the mornings. So I'm done.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: I've always worked in the mornings for the last like 25,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: 30 years, actually longer than that. Uh, and so I'm
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: usually done by early afternoon. I get to enjoy the,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: The beach, I go to the beach. You could park.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: You could get on the sand, go right up to
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: the ocean, and the ocean is warm. It's a perfect
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: time to escape. 800-321-0710, 800-321-0710. For those that didn't catch it,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: my acquaintance friend, we're not like pick up the phone, hey, Maria,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: how are you? But I am a friend of Maria Bartiromo.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: We used to host the Columbus Day Parade together for
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: years when I was at Channel 7. We used to
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: do that every year. year with my dear bud Joe
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Piscopo and Maria. We used to do that together. And
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Maria is, just from sitting with her for hours on
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: end and having just conversation after conversation, a wonderful, lovely,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: kind person. Kind. Caring person. Talks to you all the time.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: She engages. She asks you questions about you and your
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: family and then loves to share history of her family.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: She always tells a story about her family owning, I guess,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: the T-Rex restaurant in Brooklyn. And it was named after
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: the ship that her family came over on from Italy
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: to the United States. They named the restaurant after that.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: She's just a great lady and a great conversationalist. And unfortunately,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: was let go from Fox yesterday. That was the announcement.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: And the word is, because Fox didn't put out an
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: official word and Maria has not made any public comment.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I haven't talked to her. Everybody I know who knows her,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: everybody's in speculative mode. But the word is that it
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: had something to do with Fox trying to stay away
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: from President Trump, claiming that the 2020 elections were stolen
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: and that it had to do based on this is
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: these are President Trump's words. Now, I'm not saying my
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: own opinion. This is President Trump's words that it had
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: to do with the Dominion voting system. And there was
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: no evidence of that, obviously. You know, it's one thing
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: to say that because you're angry and it may, you know,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: who knows 20 years from now what we might discover.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: All I know is right now there is zero evidence
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: of that. And so Fox News ended up paying $ 787. 5
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: million in a settlement to dominion voting. And so you
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: can imagine any company would be very sensitive about that.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I would be, if I were in charge of a
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: company and I had to pay out three quarters of
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: a billion dollars, a very hard earned cash, um, to
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: somebody to settle something. And so allegedly what, what has
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: been rumored is that, um, Maria, um, The allegation is
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: that she basically communicated with the White House and said, well,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: you know, Fox is trying to stay away from your
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: coverage because of this and that. And, you know, when
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: you work, when you sign a contract and you work
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: for a company, it's like you are you. I mean,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: you're on the payroll. You're supposed to keep things in
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: the company. You know, I was married to somebody who
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: am married, but it was the same person, but married
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: to somebody who worked for another TV station. We never
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: talked TV in the house. Literally, you could talk generically
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: about a story, but it was never about coming home
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: and saying, so what did your executive producer say today? Well,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: mine said this. So what did your executive producer, mine said?
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: That didn't happen. You just know that there are certain
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: things you can't talk about when you sign a deal
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: and you're working for a company. But we don't know
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: the full details. The rumor is that that's what happened
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: and it got back to the company and she was
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: let go. She will end up on her feet and
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: be great, I'm sure. 800-321-0710. The Mark Simone Show on 710WOR.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Guest hosting for Mark today. Here's Ken Rosado.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Nice to be with you. Happy Labor Day weekend. Let's
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: go to our busy phones and we say hello to
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Carlos in Summit, New Jersey. Good morning to you, Carlos. Carlos,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: you want to lower the radio in the background. It's
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: on a delay. So just listen to the phone and
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: talk to the phone, okay? Uh-oh, it's going to be
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: about five minutes before we go through the delay. Carlos,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: you there? Otherwise, we're going to come back to Carlos.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Put Carlos on hold, please, and we'll figure it out. 800-321-0710,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: 800-321-0710 is the number to call. Just the rule of thumb,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: whenever you call into radio, you always want to lower
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: the radio in the background and just listen on the
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: phone because when we broadcast the signal, sometimes it's not
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: all stations even do a delay. Sometimes what you're hearing
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: is called a digital delay because when the signal goes
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: out over the internet, it gets delayed going through the
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: internet to you. So that's not even always something that
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: the radio station does. It's just a natural delay. Like
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: you could be watching a cable show and if you
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: ever noticed, if you have it on in two rooms,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: one room, it's like four seconds off from the other.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: It depends on your TV, if it's a smart TV
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: or using a cable box, et cetera. So is Carlos
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: there yet? We've still got him. Well, let's try him again. Carlos,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: you there?
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: Hello.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: All right, Carlos.
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: Hi.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Just keep that radio down in the background if you
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: don't mind, because otherwise you're going to get distracted. So anyway,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: good morning to you. Happy Labor Day weekend.
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: Okay. Thank you.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: Ken, the bottom line is this. It doesn't matter if
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: a person is insane or not. You have to pay
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: for your crime. You have to pay for your crime.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: And basically, what this woman did, she's worse than Charles Manson.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: She killed three people, and that's not being disputed by
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: either side. So we don't have to say she allegedly killed.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: She acknowledges, both sides acknowledge, she killed not only three people,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: but they were her own children. And of course, based
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: on the testimony, she sent her husband out and made
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: sure he stayed away long enough so that she could
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: complete the act. It's pretty gruesome. I don't disagree with you.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: My heart is where your heart is. You know, my
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: feeling is there. And then you have women who've been
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: through postpartum depression. And we're saying the argument in her
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: case is postpartum psychosis. But does that give you freedom
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: to go ahead and kill? There are thousands, millions of
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: women probably through history who suffered from severe postpartum depression.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: They didn't kill anybody. So you got to scratch your
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: head and say, you know, you got to do something here.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Three individual lives were taken. They were brutally murdered. So
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you, Carlos. When you first heard
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: the details of this, what did you first think? Do
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: you always have that feeling right from the start?
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: About what?
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that she should— I' m guessing, and I don't want to
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: put words in your mouth, I'm guessing you want her
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: to be found guilty of what? Of first-degree murder?
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: Of course, the maximum, yes.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: All right. And I think a lot of people agree
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: with you, and I don't think I disagree with you either.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: No matter what the extenuating circumstances, you're talking about a
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: situation where three little innocents were just brutally killed. So, Carlos,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: I appreciate the phone call. Thank you so much, sir.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: And we're going to move on. Let's say good morning.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: You are on the air. It's WOR. Good morning.
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: Hello.
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: Hello.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hello. Yes, sir. You are on WOR on the
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Mark Simone Show. Good morning.
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: Hey, good morning, Ken.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: This is Jimmy.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: I'm calling from Yonkers.
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: And, you know, talking about that trial, Ken, you know,
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: there was a case in the 50s, I think in 1954,
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: I believe the name was Constance Fisher. And the lady
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: killed her three kids, was remanded to an insane asylum
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: at the time, or, you know, a psychiatric.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Institute, as we'd call it today.
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: And.
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: She was let out, and later in the 60s, her
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: husband and her stayed together, and they had three more kids,
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: and she killed the other three kids in 1966. And
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: it's just a bizarre story and almost a bizarre parallel
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: to what we're seeing today. She ultimately committed suicide by
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: drowning herself, but it's a story you might want to
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: look up.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: And I, in fact, I remember, yeah, I remember it just,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: she had, she had a schizophrenia, right? So that was,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: that was, it was paranoid. In fact, it was the
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: first time many in America had heard of paranoid schizophrenia
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: because you didn't have, you know, that kind of thing
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: discussed on national news back in the sixties, but it
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: was 1966 and, when she killed her first, uh, the
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: first three and you're right.
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: And then it's the second three, the second three were
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: killed in 66. She killed in 54. I, okay.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: So, but, but you have to wonder, it's like, why
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: was she allowed to continue having kids? You know, they
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: did have institutions back then. So I guess, but I
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: guess with the legal system, they didn't have, uh, they
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: didn't put people into the, into the institutions when they
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: found them, uh, when they found them, uh, mentally, uh,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: unstable or mentally insane at that point. It's just beyond me.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: But in a case like this, the woman had not one,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: not two, she had three kids. So after the first child,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: you didn't have postpartum depression. After the second child, you
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: didn't have postpartum. Or if you did, you did nothing.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: But the third one, that's what pushed you over after
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: a couple of years. I don't know. It's going to
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: be a tough sell. And where do you think that
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: the jury stands? And I know we're just guessing here.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: But one person is the same.
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: You know, Ken, I don't know. You know, talk with
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: some buddies of mine. We have coffee each day. You know,
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: I think either way you slice it, Kenny, I think
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: any guy or gal you examine it, you've got to
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: be crazy to do what you did. I mean, you
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: look at it that way. I mean, there's no way
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: anyone in their right mind would just do that.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: But then, you know, what do you do to the person?
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: That's the way I see it anyway.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: What do you do to the person, though, at that point?
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: You know, I've got to be honest with you. God
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: forbid if it was me in that box. I'd have
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: to say, listen, I would say, hey, she's crazy. You've
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: got to put her in some kind of a mental
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: institution of some kind. That's what I would think rather
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: than a strictly a penal institution.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: I don't know. It's a hard one.
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: That's where maybe myself as a man, I probably would
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: have come in with some doubt, you know, with that reason,
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: because you've got to pick one or the other. And,
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: you know, is she really crazy? And there's so much
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: evidence and so many charges and so many experts that
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: You got to come down on it one side or
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: the other. And then they call somebody. If you're really,
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: I don't know what this one juror is about, believe me,
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: but if you're really a person of your conviction and
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: you really have reasonable doubt, you know, when they call
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: somebody a holdout, that's almost like a negative connotation.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: You follow me, Ken?
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: You know, if.
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: Somebody's really a person says, listen, I really feel this way.
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: Am I just a holdout or am I a person saying, listen,
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: I really do have reasonable doubt and therefore I have
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: to default to option B.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Rather than A. And this is why I'm convinced. I
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: had this conversation with Larry and Curtis. I walked into
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: their studio before I came in here. I'm convinced that
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: it is a man, because remember, the jury's broken nine women,
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: three men. I'm convinced that it is a man who
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: wants the max, who wants first-degree murder. And the reason
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: I say that is because the defense attorney called it
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: a darn shame that the judge would not remove that
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: one juror who was the holdout. Because if the one
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: juror who was the holdout was saying, oh, she needs
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: to go free, then why would the person who is
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: the defense attorney want the person to be off the
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: jury panel? You want that person on the jury panel.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: So I think that's fairly obvious. My eyes, I don't know.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Larry believes just the opposite. He believes that the way
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: that the judge spoke, that the person is that, that
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: the person is holding out and wants her basically acquitted, possibly.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: But the five options are not guilty, not guilty by
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: lack of criminal responsibility, which means it's the equivalent of insanity,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: guilty of manslaughter, guilty of second-degree murder, or guilty of
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: first-degree murder. Those are the five options. That's a lot
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: of options. So, you know, we don't know where they
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: all lie in there based on the evidence, but we'll
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: find out. I think, what do you think? My guess
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: is today is going to be the day that we
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: find out.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: I would have to say so. I mean, I would think.
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: And, you know, they're all only humans, too, in that
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: jury box. I mean, after five weeks and all this stuff,
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: they're going to have PTSD themselves, I think, after going
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: through all this. I mean, that's no walk in the park.
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: And I'll tell you, if I was on that jury,
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: I'd tell them, don't ever pick me for another jury
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: for the rest of my life. Because if they're going
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: through something like that, I would never want to hear
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: something like that again. They've got to be traumatized for
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: everything they saw, they heard, that they read.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: It's got to be brutal.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, thank God we have a
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: panel of our peers to judge us, right? And that
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: we have this system so we get a good shot.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: This is true. This is true.
• 31:56
  Speaker 9: Yes, yes, we do.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Jimmy from Yonkers, my dad's hometown. That's where dad was
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: born and raised by the Polish Community Center. I appreciate
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: you very much, my friend. Have a wonderful weekend.
• 32:04
  Speaker 9: Be well.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Thank you. You too.
• 32:06
  Speaker 9: You too.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Let's take one more quick call. Kathy in North Carolina.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: How are things down there?
• 32:12
  Speaker 10: Well, you know, I hesitated calling because I'm... you know,
• 32:18
  Speaker 10: I get very emotional.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: I get very emotional about this.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 32:21
  Speaker 10: First of all, I want to, I want to say that, Ken,
• 32:24
  Speaker 10: I always think you have the best job in radio
• 32:26
  Speaker 10: and you do the best job too, because you fill
• 32:28
  Speaker 10: in for Mark. He's got a great audience, but then
• 32:31
  Speaker 10: when you add another hour, I'm thinking it became a
• 32:33
  Speaker 10: little more difficult for you.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: So tell me, so tell me what you feel. Tell
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: me what you feel.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Um, okay.
• 32:39
  Speaker 10: Well, I, I think everybody knows me by now. I
• 32:42
  Speaker 10: call a lot about this, but, um, You keep on
• 32:48
  Speaker 10: saying the wrong thing. She didn't suffer from postpartum depression.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: No, she had psychosis.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Psychosis.
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: Right. No, no.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: I specified that. I specified that before. No, no.
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: I know.
• 32:58
  Speaker 10: But the last couple of times you keep on saying,
• 33:00
  Speaker 10: and people, not just you, but keep on saying, this
• 33:03
  Speaker 10: is a different thing.
• 33:04
  Speaker 11: And it is real.
• 33:07
  Speaker 10: My biggest thing is for you guys that want to
• 33:10
  Speaker 10: give her the death penalty, which isn't on the table
• 33:12
  Speaker 10: for first degree or whatever.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I never said that. No, let's back up. I never
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: said that.
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: I didn't.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Please.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: I love you. And I'll let you talk, Kathy, just,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: but please don't, don't suggest that I said that. I
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: never said that. I just, I listed the five options.
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: I'm saying your callers.
• 33:27
  Speaker 10: I'm saying your callers want, you know, first of all,
• 33:30
  Speaker 10: it's not on the table, but as far as first
• 33:32
  Speaker 10: degree murder is considered, you have to accept in the
• 33:36
  Speaker 10: state of Texas, you have to have a motive. What
• 33:39
  Speaker 10: would possibly be her motive for doing this? And, and,
• 33:44
  Speaker 10: There is none other than, I hate the word crazy,
• 33:48
  Speaker 10: but other than the psychosis, she wasn't doing it, you know,
• 33:52
  Speaker 10: to get back her husband. She wasn't doing it because
• 33:54
  Speaker 10: she was going to have a better life without three children.
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: Are you serious?
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 33:58
  Speaker 10: She wasn't doing it to, because she was having an
• 34:01
  Speaker 10: affair and wanted to get, you know, out of it.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Or she was going to get money out of it.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: She wasn't, she didn't have an insurance policy on the kids. Yeah,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: you're right. You're right on all of those.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: She had no motive.
• 34:10
  Speaker 10: So with that in mind, I can't even imagine why, Legally,
• 34:14
  Speaker 10: they were allowed to charge her with the first-degree murder.
• 34:18
  Speaker 10: Second thing that I've not mentioned before that I would
• 34:21
  Speaker 10: love to clear up is the fact that she premeditated it.
• 34:26
  Speaker 10: She doesn't say that she didn't premeditate it. It was premeditated.
• 34:30
  Speaker 10: You don't have to have— it doesn't knock out the insanity
• 34:36
  Speaker 10: defense because think of John Hinckley. I'll give you the
• 34:39
  Speaker 10: most obvious thing. He premeditated shooting Reagan. But that doesn't
• 34:44
  Speaker 10: show that it's first degree because he premeditated it. He's
• 34:47
  Speaker 10: still crazy, and that's why he premeditated it. She, again,
• 34:53
  Speaker 10: she wanted those children. She believed because of the psychosis
• 34:57
  Speaker 10: and the voices or whatever that they were going to
• 35:00
  Speaker 10: go to a better place, and she was going with them.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Kathy, I don't mean to cut you off, only because
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: we're up against a heartbreak. In 10 seconds, what should
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: happen to her? What do you believe should happen?
• 35:13
  Speaker 10: I personally believe she should have manslaughter because there's both
• 35:16
  Speaker 10: on the both sides. And I think that would be fair.
• 35:19
  Speaker 10: But those jurors listened to every day. And it looks
• 35:22
  Speaker 10: like they are not going to give her the first
• 35:24
  Speaker 10: degree and just know that they were there. They heard
• 35:27
  Speaker 10: the evidence, unlike many of the caller.
• 35:29
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: And they saw they saw images that we didn't see.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: And they don't know. You're absolutely right on all those cats. Kathy,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: you listen, call back anytime, especially when I'm here. But
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: call back anytime because I think you have a very
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: rational perspective. I appreciate it.
• 35:42
  Speaker 12: Thank you.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: God bless you.
• 35:43
  Speaker 10: And I appreciate your rationality.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Thank you. And enjoy your Labor Day weekend. And let's
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: hope that, you know, for the sake of sanity, that
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: everything turns out the way it should. Thank you, Kathy.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: All right. You're listening to 710WOR. Ken Rosato in for Mark.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: And the last call ran a little bit long. Ken
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Rosato in for Mark. We're coming back right after the news.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Don't go away.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Now, the Mark Simone Show on 710WOR. Filling in for Mark,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: here's Ken Rosado.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Nice to be with you on the Friday of Labor
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Day weekend. Hope you have nice Labor Day plans ready
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: and just hope you get out of Dodge without getting
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: stuck in a lot of traffic. You heard Daria talking
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: about this a little while ago, that if you're going
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: to leave, the earlier the better. When I was at
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Channel 7 over the decades that I was there– and
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: I'm no longer there, but had a good several decades there,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: a couple of decades. When I was there, I remember
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: with each passing year, we would note that Labor Day
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: getaway would start earlier and earlier. And so I remember
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: when I first started there, it would be 5 o'clock
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: on the dot on Friday– Then it would be noon
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: on Friday. Then it would be, I guess, about 10
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: years ago, we started noticing that, no, 5 o'clock on Thursday.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: That's when they're getting out. And now it's basically around
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: 11 on Thursday that things start. So from 11 to 2,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: it starts getting hairy. And then it picks up on Thursdays.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: This is it picks up again from 5 till about 8.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: And then Fridays, we're noticing like one of the bad
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: getaway times starts in about an hour. So if you
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: haven't gotten out yet, you're going to hit a little
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: traffic from this point forward. Just pack your patience, give
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: yourselves extra time, take a deep breath, and don't let
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: somebody frustrate you. Don't be that guy who, when you
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: see the person blinking to get in the lane, you
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: don't speed up and prevent them from getting in. Izzy
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: is laughing because he knows what I'm talking about. Just,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: you know what? Let them go, wave, smile. You're all
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: trying to get to your destination, right? And enjoy your weekend. 800-321-0710,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: the number to call, 800-321-0710. It is Ken Rosato in
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: for Mark Simone. So, of course, we are staying on
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: trial watch right now for those who didn't catch our
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: first hour. And yes, if you don't realize, the first
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: hour is now 9 a.m. for the great Mark Simone.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: So what we talked about was the beginning, of course,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: in Massachusetts of the Lindsay Clancy trial. There was drama
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: late yesterday afternoon. So what had happened, of course, was
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: somebody in the jury, if you missed it, or they
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: sent a note, the jury sent a note to the judge.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: And apparently the judge instructed the jury once again to
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: get back to work. Somebody would not change their minds.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: And the accusation was the person is not following the
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: judge's instructions and is stubborn and doesn't want to doesn't
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: want to budge. And the judge basically said, look, we
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: spent a lot of time on this. Get back to work.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Go back. I think you can do this. Go back
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: to work. So there was a little animation, if you will,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: this morning at 9 a.m. when everybody got in the courtroom.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: But the jury is now back at it. We'll see
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: what happens. Everybody you talk to is saying at this point,
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: no matter who you talk to, they think that something
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: will come to pass today. Either it will be a
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: hung jury. Or there will be a conviction or I
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: doubt there'll be an acquittal, but there'll be a conviction
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: on one of the counts. We talked to Kathy from
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: North Carolina before, and the options would be starting at
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: the bottom, starting at not guilty, which you're not going
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: to have because both sides acknowledge. that children were killed,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: that Lindsay Clancy killed the children. But is it not
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: guilty at all? Highly doubtful. Not guilty by lack of
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: criminal responsibility, which is what we would call the definition
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: of insanity, right? That's a possibility. Guilty of manslaughter, which
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: is with Kathy from North Carolina. And you know what?
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: My gut tells me that's the direction. I think Kathy's right.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Guilty of manslaughter, which would get you up to 20 years.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Guilty of second-degree murder, which is life with possible parole.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Or guilty of first-degree murder, which is deliberate premeditation. Or
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: extreme atrocity, which is mandatory life with no parole.
• 40:14
  Speaker 7: So.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: You know, I think Kathy very rationally thought it all through,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: and I thought her arguments made a lot of sense.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: This is not trying to condone the actions of Lindsay Clancy.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: She murdered her kids, period. The question is, though, how
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: should she be condemned for it? And give us a call.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: We'd love to know what you have to say about it.
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: 800-321-0710, 800-321-0710.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Now, there are 12 members of the jury and six alternates.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: They're on the main jury panel right now. There are
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: nine women, three men. My gut, my gut tells me
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: that the holdout is a guy and my gut suggests
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: the guy wants the strongest sentence and that the others
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: either want a lesser sentence or, or something even less.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: I think it would be a lesser sense. I think
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: that I would bet that the group either wants manslaughter
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: or a not guilty by manslaughter or not guilty by
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: criminal responsibility, in which case then they can assign her,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: if you will, to an institution, and she would be
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: supervised at that point. But we'd love to know what
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: your opinion is of it.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: None of us know. None of us were there looking
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: at the evidence, and none of us are with the
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: jury in the jury room, not even the attorneys. We
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: can only guess at this point. what they're talking about
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: and who the holdout is. So we'll see what happens.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: We'll find out. My gut says today, 800-321-0710, 800-321-0710. Now
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: there are other things in the news other than the
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Lindsay Clancy trial. Did you hear about a gubernatorial candidate,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: a guy I think is great and I'm hoping for him,
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Nassau County Executive Bruce Blakeman. He's been referring to Governor
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Kathy Hochul. as hijab hokul. So now as recently as
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: August 28th and apparently several times before that, Governor Hokul
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: has visited mosques or Islamic centers dressed in a headscarf
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: or a hijab. And if you're an elected official and
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: you are just visiting a religious center like that, you
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: are neither required nor even expected to wear a hijab
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: any more than a Christian is expected or required to
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: wear a yarmulke when they visit a temple, a kippot.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: If you go to a temple, I mean, if you
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: want to participate or you don't want to stand out,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: you can put on a kippah. But there are a
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: lot of Jews who go to temple who don't even
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: put on their yarmulkes. You know, I know I've had relatives.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: I'm married into a family that's partly Jewish. And I've
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: been to many a gathering, bar mitzvahs and whatnot, where
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: either non-Jewish members of the family or even non-practicing Jews,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: they don't put on a kippah. The men don't put
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: that on. So, you know, if you want to, you
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: can and whatever. But Kathy Hochul, being that this is
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: an election year, she hasn't done this apparently before, but
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: now that it's election year and she's trying to kiss
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: the butt of every group she can, she shows up
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: wearing a hijab. And I think it's, I think, honestly,
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: it is condescending. It would be the equivalent of, I think,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: somebody who is, I know this is going to cause
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: people to get all upset, but if you show up
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: at a gathering of people who happen to be and
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: you start talking, hey, how you doing? Hey, how you doing?
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: You know, that's appropriation is what it is in essence.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Or you show up to a group of people who
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: are black and start doing what Hillary Clinton did, patronizing, saying,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: I have a bottle of hot sauce in my bag.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: It's like, excuse me? What are you assuming? All black
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: people walk around with a bottle of hot sauce? It's
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: just so condescending. And so look at me. I think
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: just like you. No, you don't. Stop it. We should
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: celebrate our differences. and celebrate. We're all different in our
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: own way, whatever. And we know, Kathy, that you are
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: not a Muslim. Ergo, you do not have to wear
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: a hijab walking into an Islamic center, especially not when
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: you're not going into a prayer service, especially. You're going
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: into a center, not necessarily a mosque. I mean, most
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Islamic centers, or many at least, do have the mosque attached,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: but she didn't have to. And the point is, she
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: didn't do it beforehand, and it's obvious she's kissing butt.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: And that's why Bruce Blakeman called her hijab hokal because
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: she's obviously culturally appropriating and kissing. But well, she, of course,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: to defend herself, she of the very bad caps on
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: her teeth said that it was just reprehensible what he's
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: calling her reprehensible. No, you wore a hijab. And your
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: name is Hochul. What's reprehensible about it? You don't like it?
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Maybe you don't like you're being sensitive because you don't
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: like that you were called on the carpet for what
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: you did. But, you know, you could pay respect to
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: a group of people without culturally appropriating, especially when you
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: don't normally do that. Do you normally wear a headscarf, Kathy?
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: One of your staff, I guarantee, tell me which member
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: of your staff you gave 50 bucks and said, go
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: ahead and find me one of these things. So, you know,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: a real nice one so that I look like I
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: fit in. you didn't look like you fit in Kathy.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: That's just face facts. 800-321-0710. Tell me if I'm wrong.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: I could be wrong. Do you think you should? I
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: don't know. Have I worn a, here I was, I
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: was a Catholic priest. Have I put on a yarmulke
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: at some temple services? Yeah. When it was like my
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: nephew or cousin, whatever, through my marriage, my nephews are
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: too young on my other half side. but they're about
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: to be, one is about to be bar mitzvahed. But,
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: cousins who have been bar mitzvahed. Yeah, I think once
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: or twice I did put on a kippot. I was
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: at a wedding, a Jewish wedding. But it's funny because
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: some of the Jews who were there in the family,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: the men were not wearing yarmulkes. And here I had
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: a yarmulke on. But I did that more because as
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: a priest, you know, we can wear something like that
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: when you're ordained. And I'm no longer a priest. I
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: don't function as one. But you wear something called a zucchetto.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: The Pope most famously, and bishops still wear them, the
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: white one for the Pope. And then you have, depending
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: on if it's a bishop or a cardinal, they wear
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: the bright red or the subdued burgundy red for the bishops.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: They wear a zucchetto. Zucchetto literally means little pumpkin because
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: it looks like the top of a pumpkin, a jack-o'-lantern.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: So that's why it's zucchetto in Italian. But it's basically,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: it's a yarmulke. And it's a head covering. And it
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: was originally there because when you became a priest, even earlier,
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: you became a subdeacon, they would shave a little piece
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: of your hair to show that you were sacrificing for God.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: And they would cover it with that because it was cold.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: That's where it started. And then later they said, well,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: it's sort of like in Judaism, you cover your head
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: in the presence of God, et cetera. But priests can
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: still technically wear that. So that's why I say I
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: use that as an excuse. I'm putting it on. But
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Kathy Hochul, has no reason to put on a hijab.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: You could still pay your respects, and it's nice, and
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: you should pay your respects by going to an Islamic center.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: They are part of your electorate, but don't patronize by
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: putting on a hijab when you normally wouldn't. 800-321-0710, 800-321-0710.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: Some other news, of course, today, the big, big news
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: for those who caught this maybe yesterday and you're wondering,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: what's going on, Ken? You know the insides. I don't
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: know the inside, but I can only hypothesize what happened
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: with Maria Bartiromo. We talked about this a little bit
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: in the nine o'clock hour. Maria is a great lady.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: I worked with Maria for probably, what, 10 years doing
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: the Columbus Day Parade when I was at Channel 7.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Joe Piscopo, Maria, and I would co-host it. She could
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: not be more delightful. I never get to use that
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: word delightful, but she truly is. She's a kind person,
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: very down to earth. There is zero pretense. When you're
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: around Maria Bartiromo, she will tell you no matter what.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: If she sees something that looks silly, she'll tell you.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: She doesn't hold back. She's very real. So I say
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: that because that sort of tells me that she would
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: be a true friend. She knew Donald Trump for decades,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: way before him becoming president, because he was active in
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: the business community in New York. And of course, she
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: was first on CNBC, then on Fox Business. kind of
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: the go-to human, the first person to broadcast from the
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: floor of the stock exchange. And, you know, she is
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: the real deal when it comes to business news. Few
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: people are as connected or know as many important people
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: in the business as her. All right. And I could
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: see her feeling a certain level of, what's the word
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: I'm looking for? A certain level of obligation, loyalty, fealty.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: To the president because she knows him so long. So
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: the allegation and we don't know that any of this
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: is true. The allegation is that with the whole voting
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: machine issue where Fox had to settle $ 775 million-plus with
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: the voting... I don't even want to mention the name
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: of the company. I'm not going to. But this happened
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: several years ago where Fox paid out of court to
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: settle a case where there were accusations by President Trump
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: that the 2020 election was stolen. And that he had
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: suggested that the voting machines in some cases were hacked
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: or that there was fraud involving them. There was no
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: evidence of that. Now, you know, we don't know 20
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: years from now what we could find out, but we
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: don't know 20 years from now we could find out
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: that the sky was really purple. Who knows? The bottom
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: line is the president was just shouting that and with
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: no evidence. And as a result, the the folks at
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Fox were sued and they settled. And they settle for
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: a lot of money, three quarters of a billion dollars.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: So you can imagine how sensitive the corporation is about
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: anybody talking about it or passing on word to the
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: White House about your internal conversations about it. When a
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: company pays you millions of dollars to be their anchor,
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: you do what they tell you. And if you don't
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: want to do what they tell you, you go and
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: you say, all right, let's break the contract. Very nice
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: knowing you. I'm leaving. But the allegation is that she
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: reached out to the White House and shared information with
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: the White House. about Fox allegedly not wanting to give
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: enough coverage to the president during a speech because he
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: was going to talk about these voting machines and that
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: she may have shared that information. That's the allegation. We
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: don't know. But if that was in fact the case
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: and Fox terminated her, they'd have every right to. Do
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: I think that she is a bad person?
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: Zero.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: She is a lovely person. And I know she's going
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: to do whatever she wants in a very good way
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: and be very successful here on in. And I'm just
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: kind of sad not to see her on Fox anymore.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: That's it. 800-321-0710, 800-321-0710. We will take your calls next.
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  Speaker 10: On 710WOR.
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  Speaker 1: Guest hosting for Mark today. Here's Ken Rosato.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: And a very happy Friday of Labor Day weekend. Good
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: to be with you. Let's go to the busy phones,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: and they are busy right now. Let's go to Vincent
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: in Brooklyn. Good morning, Vincent.
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  Speaker 9: Can you hear me, Ken?
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
• 51:39
  Speaker 9: All right, Ken. About 65 years ago, this woman who
• 51:43
  Speaker 9: lived next door to us, she gave birth to a
• 51:47
  Speaker 9: second child, and then shortly thereafter, she lived in a
• 51:51
  Speaker 9: family building with other siblings. Her siblings noticed that something
• 51:56
  Speaker 9: was off. The woman... became withdrawn. She wouldn't go out.
• 52:00
  Speaker 9: She always looked like she was sad. So they took
• 52:04
  Speaker 9: her to see a psych and everything, and she was
• 52:08
  Speaker 9: judged as having postpartum depression. Now, maybe she also suffered
• 52:13
  Speaker 9: from depression beforehand, but this manifested itself after her second child.
• 52:20
  Speaker 9: And luckily, she did get help, and it took several
• 52:24
  Speaker 9: years of therapy and help. also from a loving family,
• 52:31
  Speaker 9: and she eventually was well again. She snapped out of it,
• 52:38
  Speaker 9: but she didn't try and assassinate her children and everything,
• 52:44
  Speaker 9: and she did the heavy lifting. She did the work.
• 52:47
  Speaker 9: She went to therapy, and in fact, at one point,
• 52:52
  Speaker 9: initially when she was diagnosed, she was like, Practically catatonic,
• 52:57
  Speaker 9: and they hospitalized her for a couple of weeks just,
• 53:01
  Speaker 9: I guess, to stabilize her. But with the love of
• 53:05
  Speaker 9: her family, and she did the heavy lifting, and she
• 53:10
  Speaker 9: was all right. I believe this woman in Boston, this
• 53:15
  Speaker 9: young lady, should spend the rest of her life in
• 53:19
  Speaker 9: a mental institution for the criminally insane because... whether she
• 53:25
  Speaker 9: had depression beforehand or this was postpartum depression. The fact is,
• 53:30
  Speaker 9: after she tried to kill herself, when she awoke in
• 53:34
  Speaker 9: the hospital, when she woke up, she said, do I
• 53:37
  Speaker 9: need a lawyer? That's what she said. Now, that sounds
• 53:42
  Speaker 9: like it's premeditated to me. The fact that you sent
• 53:45
  Speaker 9: your husband out on errands long enough So there you
• 53:49
  Speaker 9: could get a Pilates band and wrap it around your
• 53:52
  Speaker 9: kid's neck. I mean, that has to be, that's got
• 53:56
  Speaker 9: to be the coolest thing in the world.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: And I just want to jump in, Vincent, because Kathy
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: from North Carolina did have a good point that postpartum
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: depression is different from postpartum psychosis, which is what they're claiming.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: And postpartum, I'm just going to read from the interwebs.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: It says here, postpartum psychosis is a rare, severe medical
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: emergency involving a loss of touch with reality. Whereas postpartum
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: depression is more common mood, a mood disorder marked by
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: prolonged sadness and anxiety without detachment from reality. So the
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: question is, did she have postpartum psychosis in which she
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: did not have touch with reality? And I see your point.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: Your point is, well, if she lost touch with reality,
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: How could she do what she did in terms of
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: sending her husband out to get the.
• 54:38
  Speaker 9: Exactly. That's where the premeditated part comes in. And by
• 54:42
  Speaker 9: the way, about the yarmulkes, about 20 years ago, I
• 54:46
  Speaker 9: went to a Jewish wedding. It wasn't Orthodox, but they
• 54:51
  Speaker 9: were conservative Jews. And adjacent to the reception hall was
• 54:57
  Speaker 9: the shul. And as the people were walking in, as
• 55:00
  Speaker 9: the men were walking in, a rabbi goes to hand
• 55:03
  Speaker 9: me a yarmulke. And I turned to him and I said,
• 55:06
  Speaker 9: I'm Christian. And I was not going to put on,
• 55:09
  Speaker 9: you know, just like I wouldn't expect somebody to hang
• 55:12
  Speaker 9: a cross around their neck if they went in.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: And I think most, they know that too. I mean,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: I don't, I know a bunch of rabbis having, you know,
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: done interfaith weddings with them and things like that when
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: I was functioning as a priest. And I don't know
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: a rabbi that would ever, ever, force you to wear that.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: It's entirely on you.
• 55:32
  Speaker 9: About 65 years ago, the first one in my family,
• 55:35
  Speaker 9: my cousin Richard, married a woman who was Jewish, and
• 55:39
  Speaker 9: that day we went and celebrated first in a church,
• 55:43
  Speaker 9: and then we went to a synagogue to celebrate the
• 55:47
  Speaker 9: union of my cousin and his bride. It was the
• 55:51
  Speaker 9: greatest thing in the world.
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: Temples are gorgeous.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: Some of the temples in New York are just Beautiful.
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: Oh, my gosh.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: And Christians, in many cases, have never been in a temple.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: When you go in a temple, you realize where Christianity
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: gets its foundation from, and you go, oh, this is
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: where it all comes from.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: People forget Jesus was born a Jew.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. All right, my friend Vincent, have a good Labor
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: Day weekend.
• 56:14
  Speaker 9: Have a great weekend, Ken.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: Always a pleasure.
• 56:15
  Speaker 9: Enjoy yourself and great speaking to you as always. And
• 56:19
  Speaker 9: I love the show when you sit in for Mark.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: Thank you. But I'm like you. I still prefer listening
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: to Mark. I listen every day and I hear you
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: on with Mark every day and get a kick out
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: of the fact that I get to talk to you.
• 56:29
  Speaker 9: Well, I appreciate you very much, Ken.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 56:31
  Speaker 9: I appreciate it. I appreciate you being there for Mark.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much, my friend. Vincent, have a good weekend.
• 56:35
  Speaker 9: You too.
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: Let's go over to Joe in Elmwood Park. Hello, Joe.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: Good morning and happy Labor Day weekend.
• 56:41
  Speaker 11: Vincent's right on again, as usual. You mean to tell
• 56:44
  Speaker 11: me if somebody proves that our election wasn't legit, they'll
• 56:48
  Speaker 11: get chastised? And how many illegals is Mickey Schiller going
• 56:53
  Speaker 11: to take in her house?
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Well, number two, zero is the answer for that. And
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: number one, no, I think I get what your point is.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: It's not a matter of if it wasn't legit because
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: it may, you know, who knows if it was or
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: wasn't when we get, look, the fact is we just
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: found that. there were hundreds of people, at least that
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: we know for fact voted. We don't know which election,
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: but did vote in New Jersey. We know that. So
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: that's why I'm so tired of reading when certain publications
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: love to say with absolutely no evidence at all, that
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: there was any illicit voting. Yeah, no, there is evidence.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: Now we have the governor of New Jersey, a liberal Democrat,
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: acknowledging hundreds of people who should not have voted did register.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: And they did vote thousands registered.
• 57:33
  Speaker 11: And when is Mark Wayne Mullen and army Dylan and, uh,
• 57:37
  Speaker 11: Nick Shirley, come in here.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: We're still waiting. You don't know that they're not working
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: on it right now. I mean, the fact is, look,
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: that we've had in New York State alone, the fact
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: that they removed thousands, over 3,000 illegals who had criminal records.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: And that's, you know, I think most people, most people
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: still do want anyone who's here illegally to be removed
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: if you're on, if you voted for Trump. But it's,
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: I think, everybody, even if you didn't vote for Trump,
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: you want people who are criminals. to be gone, no
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: matter if they're legal or not. You just want them
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: off the streets. So anyone who says, oh, no, I
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: don't understand someone who would want somebody who's a criminal
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: off the streets, unless they're here illegally, then they could stay,
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: even if they're a criminal. That doesn't make sense to me.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know. But, Joe, enjoy your Labor Day weekend.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: Always a pleasure talking to you. You bet. Have a
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: good one.
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: 800-321-0710.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: 800-321-0710 is the number to call. And coming up in
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: just 10 minutes, we're going to speak with attorney Imran Ansari,
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: a friend of mine, actually my own attorney, regarding the
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: Lindsay Clancy trial, and he will give us some insight
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: that maybe many of us don't have.
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  Speaker 1: Live from the WOR LifeVac studios, the Mark Simone Show.
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  Speaker 1: Guest hosting for Mark today, Ken Rosato.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: It's so good to be with you. The Friday before
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: Labor Day. Labor Day weekend kicking off officially. We got
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: some jobs numbers in that are actually very good.
• 59:00
  Speaker 9: The U.S.
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  Speaker 2: Economy adding 162,000 jobs in August. And that beat all
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: the forecasts and it kept the unemployment rate steady at 4.1%.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. In fact, they
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: said that they had expected, the economists expected, that 53,000
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: jobs would be added, and we got three times that, 162,000,
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: more than three times that, so pretty darn good. Also,
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: they revised July's numbers up, to a gain of 21,000
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: jobs from a previously reported loss, and average hourly earnings
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: grew by 3.1% from a year ago. Now, that's showing
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: a little bit of a cooling trend, but it's still good. Now,
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: you don't want the wages to increase by too much
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: because then you get inflation. So many economists are saying
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: these are really good numbers as we come into the
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: fall season, as we approach two months from now, we
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: approach the midterm elections. 800-321-0710, 800-321-0710, the number to call. And,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: you know, the Lindsay Clancy trial captivating and polarizing the nation.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: On one side, you have women who've suffered postpartum depression
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: or worse. In this case, this is an accusation of
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: postpartum psychosis. Finally, some of the women saying, you know what,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: the world is paying attention to the depression that we
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: went through and they are taking a closer look at this.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: On the other side, you have a society that simply
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: cannot accept what this is. A mother allegedly murdering her
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: own three children, especially in what appears to be such
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: a horrific manner. Attorney Imran Ansari is a partner and
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: head of civil litigation at the law firm Idalla, Bertuna & Cammons.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Full disclosure, he's also not only my friend, but my attorney.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: We say good morning to you, Imran.
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  Speaker 6: Good morning, Ken.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on. So, you know, what do you
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: think the holdup is with the jury? There are all
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: sorts of theories involved. But based on your experience in
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: a courtroom, what do you think is going on?
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  Speaker 13: You know, as trial attorneys, we try to read the
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 13: tea leaves whenever we have a jury deliberating, trying to
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 13: get some idea where they're leaning, trying to read into
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 13: the jury notes that are sent out while they're deliberating.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 13: But often you really can't read those tea leaves and
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 13: a jury will surprise you. with their verdict, even though
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 13: you thought they may be going one way or the other. Here,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 13: with the Lindsey Clancy trial, we have the jury deliberating
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 13: over a case, Ken, that you accurately reflected or commented
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 13: that it's polarizing the nation. And it's reflected in that jury,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 13: I believe, based on the fact that they're deliberating. They
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 13: are at a deadlock. And what we now learn is
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 13: that it's 11 to 1. There is one holdout juror
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 13: who is not coming on board with the other jurors
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 13: to a unanimous verdict. So this trial, this case may
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 13: very well be a mistrial because of one single juror
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 13: holding out. And you can't fault that juror. In fact,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 13: there's some questions out there, why isn't the judge sort
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 13: of putting some pressure on this juror? Kevin Rennington, who
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 13: is the defense attorney, wanted to bring this juror out
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 13: and question him or her as to why they are
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 13: holding out. But you can't do that, right? The sanctity
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 13: of the jury... is that unless this juror is not
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 13: following the instructions or the law or is doing something improper,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 13: you really can't do anything to sway them from an
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 13: outside standpoint because that's how the jury works. And if
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 13: ultimately the juror decides that they're not going to come
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 13: on board with the other jurors for a unanimous verdict,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 13: then you're going to have a mistrial.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: Now, here's a question, because it could be anything from
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: not guilty to not guilty by lack of criminal responsibility,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: which would be what a lot of states call insanity,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: guilty of manslaughter, second degree or first degree murder. Those
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: are the options for the jury. Do they all have
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: to decide on one of those five? So all 12
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: have to unanimously decide that it's guilty of first degree
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: or can say half of them say first degree and
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: some of them say second degree and then they rationalize it. Well,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: how does it work?
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 13: No, it has to be a unanimous verdict. And if
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 13: there is any sort of discrepancy with the charge, there
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 13: could be very well a verdict on one that's unanimous,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 13: yet there is a lesser included, which is not unanimous.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 13: But you have to lead the jury to one unanimous
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 13: verdict at least, so there's not a complete mistrial in
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 13: a case. And here you have options as to murder.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 13: But then you have not necessarily a not guilty verdict,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 13: but not criminally responsible by reason of mental disease or defect.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 13: And that's Really, the option that this jury is weighing here,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 13: and you can see that over the course of these days, Ken,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 13: they've been deliberating. Just as the drama may be unfolding
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 13: outside of the courtroom and on the public stage and
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 13: the court of public opinion, there may very well be
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 13: drama unfolding inside that jury deliberation room. Uh, you know,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 13: I talked about reading the tea leaves, but now we
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 13: really have a better picture on what's going on in there, uh,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 13: when you have one holdout juror. So you could imagine
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 13: there must be some tension, uh, tensions flaring in that
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 13: deliberation room between the jurors who have made their decision, uh,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 13: and the juror who is holding out. Um, but you know, it, it,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 13: it was a tough case to grapple with, even from
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 13: the public standpoint. And certainly if you have the juror
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 13: with that very, very heavy responsibility on your shoulders. and
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 13: making a decision on this case with three young lives
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 13: tragically lost at the hands of their mother. But then
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 13: on the other hand, you have a very compelling defense
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 13: argument that she was so sick from this postpartum psychosis
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 13: and the postpartum depression that led her here that she
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 13: may very well not understood or appreciated the criminality of
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 13: her conduct.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: And so we just want to remind everybody, you're listening
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: to 710WOR, The Voice of New York. It's Ken Rosato
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: in for Mark, along with attorney Imran Ansari, who is
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: from the law firm Idalla Bertuna Kamens. And we are
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: talking about, of course, the Lindsay Clancy trial. So I
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: guess one of the other questions I get confused about is,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: she's been charged with all of those counts, right? This
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: way they could try to convict on one of the counts.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: So the point I'm trying to make is, say they
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: conclusively say, Well, she's guilty of this, not guilty of that,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: but we can't decide on this. You know what I mean?
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Is that then a hung jury if on one of
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: the counts they're hung?
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 13: Yes, yes, that's a real possibility. And then it's unlikely
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 13: that a prosecutor would seek to retry on one charge
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 13: that they couldn't reach a unanimous decision on. If they
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 13: reach a unanimous decision on first-degree murder, that's it. That's
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 13: a first-degree murder conviction that Lindsay Clancy is facing with
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 13: life imprisonment. But if it's a lesser charge and they
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 13: convict on that, Well, that's also a– that's a conviction.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 13: If they find that they're– they find that she's not
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 13: criminally responsible, well, that's sort of a full sweep right
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 13: there because that defense would absolve her from that crime
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 13: and any of the lesser included charges involved. that they
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 13: would have brought and you know ken i'm a former
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 13: prosecutor myself and often you know you're you're going for
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 13: the top count for a conviction uh but the jury
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 13: may render a verdict of not guilty or they can't
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 13: reach a decision but then they can't convict on another
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 13: charge or a lesser charge um and that's a scenario
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 13: that could happen here.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: There you go well i'm so glad we had you
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: on because that helps clear a lot up i i
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: feel a little more enlightened on some things but uh
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: we really don't know what they're yelling about right now
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: behind those closed doors and Who that one person is,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: the holdout. I have a theory and I put it
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  Speaker 2: on the line, Imran. I'm saying it's a guy because
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  Speaker 2: there are nine women, three men, and I'm saying it's
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  Speaker 2: a guy. My gut is telling me it's a guy
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  Speaker 2: and that he wants something more stringent. He wants a
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  Speaker 2: serious conviction and that the others want something lesser. That's
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  Speaker 2: what my gut is telling me.
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  Speaker 13: And Ken, just on that note, there was body language
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  Speaker 13: and smiles from the women on the jury when the
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  Speaker 13: judge was instructing them that they have to follow the law.
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  Speaker 13: And maybe, you know, your prediction is accurate based on
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  Speaker 13: that sort of body language from the female jurors.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Attorney Imran Ansari, partner and head of
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  Speaker 2: civil litigation at the law firm Idalla, Bertuna & Kamens
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  Speaker 2: here in New York. My friend and personal attorney, thank
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  Speaker 2: you for coming on this morning, Imran.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, Ken.
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  Speaker 2: You bet. Happy Labor Day weekend. We're going to have
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: nice sunshine today, by the way. Highs in the mid
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: to upper 80s. And again, we're going to take your
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  Speaker 2: calls next, 800-321-0710.
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  Speaker 3: 800-321-0710.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: It's Ken Rosato in for Mark Simone on your Friday 710WOR.
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  Speaker 1: The Mark Simone Show. Now 9 till noon weekdays.
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  Speaker 10: On 710WOR.
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  Speaker 1: Guest hosting for Mark today. Here's Ken Rosato.
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  Speaker 2: And let's try to get in a couple of calls
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: right now. Michelle, good morning. You're on the Mark Simone Show.
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  Speaker 12: Hi, Mark. How are you?
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: This is Ken. Mark is off, but it's okay. I'll
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: still take the call.
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  Speaker 12: Oh, Ken.
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  Speaker 2: That's all right.
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  Speaker 12: You know what? I got so flustered that I said Mark,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 12: and you said Mark Simone.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 12: Good morning. Happy Labor Day weekend. I want to let
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 12: you know that when you left Channel seven i left
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 12: channel seven.
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  Speaker 2: Well i don't ask people to do that i still
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: watch them i channel seven look they're they're great at
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: what they do and they gave me michelle they gave
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: me 20 of the best darn broadcast years i could
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: how many people ever get to say they love their
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: job and they got to do it for 20 years
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: so i can't i don't fault.
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  Speaker 12: Them that's actually very true and and i like that
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 12: attitude but um My husband and I were very excited.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 12: I was listening to Mark one day, and I'm like,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 12: that's not Mark's voice. And I was like, I know
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 12: that voice. What is that voice? And then you said,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 12: it's Ken Rosato. I was like, that's Ken Rosato. So
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 12: very exciting. I called today not only to say hi
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 12: to you, also to send a hi out to Vincent.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 12: My husband and I moved out of Brooklyn two years ago,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 12: and hearing Vincent every day makes us feel a little
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 12: less homesick.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: Isn't he the best? Love Vincent.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 12: He is the best. And he's got a lot of
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 12: unique perspectives that I don't always think of. And so
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 12: it's definitely great to hear him. But I'm now going
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 12: to somebody else leaving. Maria Bartiromo. Maria Bartiromo is from
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 12: the neighborhood that my husband and I grew up in Brooklyn.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 12: We actually, you mentioned her family's restaurants before. We had
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 12: parties there. We had the reposes from family funerals there.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 12: And It's disappointing because I feel like when they make
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 12: mistakes on the other side of the fence and they
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 12: maybe get sued for it, their people don't get let go.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 12: But when it's our side of the fence, I feel
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 12: like they tend to be a little bit more, you know,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 12: there's a little bit more persecution. And it's also very
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 12: upsetting to me as a Italian-American woman for somebody to
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 12: get let go because she was such a great role
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 12: model for not only the girls in the neighborhood, but
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 12: any woman who was coming up or any Italian-American who
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 12: was coming up in the business field. She made a
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 12: lot of strides, and it's just disappointing.
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  Speaker 2: Michelle, I've got to cut you. Michelle, I don't mean
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: to be rude because I could talk to you for
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: an hour, but it's news time. We've got to cut
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: off for that. But I'm with you. She's a great person,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: having sat and talked with her for hours on end.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: She is as lovely as she appears on the air,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: and I'm sure she's going to do great. But, Michelle,
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  Speaker 2: thank you for your kind words. I appreciate you calling in.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: And the number coming up for the next hour, 2-800-321-0710.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: It is 11 o'clock. Time now for the news.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: Now, the Mark Simone Show on 710WOR. Filling in for Mark,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: here's Ken Rosado.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: So nice to be with you on a Friday. This
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: is the hour three of the new three-hour Mark Simone Show,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: now nine to noon Monday through Friday. For those who
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: are haven't listened in a month or two and you
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: don't realize, Hey, you're on three hours a day, Mark Simone.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: I wish I were Mark Simone, the great Mark Simone
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: enjoying the day off, but this is Ken Rosato and
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: very proud to be sitting in the seat, keeping it
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: warm for Mark till he is back on Monday. And, uh,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: just so much happening in the news right now. If, uh,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: you've basically landed on earth in the last, uh, uh,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: day or so we have, of course, two major stories
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: happening at this hour. Apparently the, uh, Well, actually three
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: big stories. For those of you who were in Manhattan
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: trying to get to Brooklyn this morning, you saw what happened.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: The Brooklyn Bridge was actually shut down for like four
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: or five hours. And that is because there was an
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: alleged emotionally disturbed man on the Brooklyn bound Brooklyn Bridge
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: close to Manhattan. And this happened, I guess, about three
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: or three thirty in the morning. It initially happened where
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: someone called police saying there was an emotionally disturbed person
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: with a knife. And this was by South and Dover
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: streets in Manhattan. And apparently police showed up at about
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: 4 o'clock, 3.30, 4 o'clock. They closed the bridge at
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: about 4.15. It remained closed till 8.30 this morning. Of course,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: you can imagine the traffic. But police went up to
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: the man. And according to the allegations, the reports we
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: have right now, the man confronted the police and then
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: charged at them with a knife. And police shot him.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: And the man is deceased. So that is the latest.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: It was under investigation. Of course, whenever something like that happens,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: they have to take measurements, pictures, et cetera. So they
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: had to shut down the Brooklyn Bridge this morning. And that,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: of course, wreaked havoc. In spite of the fact that
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: traffic is lighter than usual or was at that hour
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: because of the holiday weekend. And it was so early. Nonetheless,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: it still caused an absolute mess of traffic. near the
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: Brooklyn Bridge. Police again resolving that. We'll get more when
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: the police release the details of their investigation. 800-321-0710.
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  Speaker 5: 800-321-0710.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, the other big stories today. We're going to
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: talk about the Clancy trial. So, Lindsey Clancy, this morning,
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: the judge sent the jury back to deliberate. It comes
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: down to one person of the 12 on the jury
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: panel who's holding out. But the judge does not feel
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: that the person is in any way not paying attention
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: to the rules and the law. And so the judge
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: sent them all back to deliberate and says, listen, go
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: at it. You're the jury. Apparently, the defense attorney was
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: upset that the judge would not remove the one juror.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: But as we had attorney Imran Ansari on about half
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: an hour ago, and he talked about the fact that, look,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: there's 12 jurors. Each one of the 12 is co-equal.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: And whether it's one or three or five that are
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: holding it up, everybody has the same co-equal power. And
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: you need to have a unanimous decision in order to
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: convict or acquit. And in this case, you have one
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: person holding out. But whether you have one or seven, well,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. Because with our jury system, you have
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: to have unanimity. And we don't have that right now.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: So one person is holding out. If the person is
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: violating the rules and not paying attention to the judge's orders,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: that's different. But if they're following all the rules and
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: they have justification in why they're reaching their decision and
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: what they're discussing, then so be it. That's the way
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: the system works. A lot of people believing that the
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: jury will remain deadlocked for the day and that there
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: will probably be a mistrial and everybody will have to
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: start again. Well, they wouldn't be the same jury. But
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: the defense and the prosecution would have to start all
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: over again. We'll see what happens. But again, the prosecutor
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: says if, in fact, it is a mistrial or a
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: hung jury, not a mistrial, excuse me, clarification, go back,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: rewind the tape, not a mistrial, a hung jury. If
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: it is a hung jury, the prosecutor saying that, in fact,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: they would likely go back and do it all over again.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens. 800-321-0710, 800-321-0710. We've had some
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: amazing callers, by the way, about it. Very clear. A
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: lot of people have done a lot of research who
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: know what they're talking about. And I'm very impressed by
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: the callers we've had. Everybody with passion. Bottom line that
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: we have here at the end of the day, three
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: little ones, three little innocent children were murdered. And it
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: comes down to the mother deserves some kind of punishment.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: Does she deserve life in prison without parole? Does she
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: deserve life in prison with the chance of parole? Does
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: she deserve up to 20 years, which would be manslaughter?
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: Does she deserve to be sentenced to a mental institution?
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: And it all depends. So we'll see what the jury says.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are citing in the
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: vicinity of manslaughter from the legal and non-legal experts that
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: I've talked to. A lot of people come down to
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: the feeling of that kind of satisfies their feeling for
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: the death of those kids. And they were murdered. They
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: didn't just fall and hit their heads. Their mother murdered them.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: And not to say that postpartum, if it is, again,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: this isn't postpartum depression, it's postpartum psychosis we're talking about.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: Not to say it is not a real thing. It
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: is a real thing. It is a real diagnosis. The
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: question is, did she actually have postpartum psychosis? And that's
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: what the jury is trying to determine right now. 800-321-0710. Again,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: we were talking earlier also about Maria Bartiromo. Very nice lady.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: When she was at CNBC, they used to call her
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: the money honey. Remember, she was the first person to
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: broadcast live from the floor of the stock exchange. Back
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: when the floor of the stock exchange was the epicenter
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: of business for the whole world, basically. Today, a lot
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: of the stock trades, most of them, are done electronically.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: But back then, for those of you who are of
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: a certain age like me, I'm almost 60. Back then,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: in order to trade stocks, you had people on the floors,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: mostly guys. You had guys on the floor holding cards
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: up in the air like, you know, $ 20, $ 20. And,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: you know, it was like an auction. And that's what
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: the trading floor was. It wasn't electronic like it is today.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: But she was there when there was the cacophony and
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: the nuttiness of being on the floor to broadcast live
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: with the equipment and There weren't, there wasn't a lot
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: of remote equipment. So everything had to be hardwired and
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: big lights. And, and she did it back then when
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: it was the stock exchange. So she made a name
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: for herself and a big name. She did to broadcast
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: with all that craziness around you and be able to
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: keep a straight face and speak with knowledge and experience
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: and listen to questions of people asking you questions from
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: back of the desk. She's amazing. That's where she proved herself.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: Maria Bartiromo, certainly the, if not the preeminent, certainly one
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: of the preeminent business reporters of our time. And Fox
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: News terminated her yesterday. And I could just say from
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: the times I've met Maria, she's one of the nicest,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: most down-to-earth, most humble humans you will ever meet. She's
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: a lovely person. I'm sick to my stomach that she's
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: gone because I like Fox News and I like Maria Bartiromo.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: And like many of you, I'm sad to see this happen.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: From a company perspective, if what the allegations are are correct,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: and we'll get into that a little bit in a moment,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: you can understand why Fox News would do what they did.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: The allegation being that she basically tipped off the White
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: House or shared with the White House information that is
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: a corporate propriety. that was discussion and internal email in
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: Fox News regarding Smartmatic and Dominion voting machines and President
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: Trump's unfounded allegations that they were basically hacked or that
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: there was unfairness in the election regarding those machines. And
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: if the president wants to say that, that's fine, but
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: all the networks don't have to air that. They could
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: choose to do so or not to do so or
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: to air it with a disclaimer. And you can understand,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: you know, the companies sued Fox News, and Fox News
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: ended up settling three-quarters of a billion dollars, more than that.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: They ended up paying Dominion. And you can understand why
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: they were smarting from that. They didn't want any more
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: of that. And so when they see the president having
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: an opportunity to speak to the country, going in the
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: direction of talking about alleging once again– that the voting
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: machines were hacked or that there was some kind of
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: impropriety with the voting through the Dominion voting system, which
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: he had no basis for, you can understand why the
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: network is now sensitive to that. And when they talk
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: internally about stuff like that, they want it kept internally.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: So that's the other perspective. It is a company's perspective.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: You sign a contract with a broadcasting institution and they're
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: paying you a lot of money. They expect you to
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: follow the rules. And, you know, it's not, Not unusual
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: for them to say any information in-house you keep in-house.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: You know, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas, that
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: kind of a deal. And if it goes outside and
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: we find out that it was you, well, you could
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: be subject to termination. And that's in your contract when
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: you sign it. So you can understand Fox's side of it. Again, overall,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: I'm just sad to see it happen because I think
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: Maria is great. And I think Fox News does a
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: yeoman's job. My friends who are liberal... Love to say
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: that conservative right wing Fox News is so slanted. And
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: I say to them, what part of it is slanted?
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: Because if you look at the news people on Fox News,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: they're not. They're as down the middle as anybody else.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: They're a separate division. There's Fox Entertainment like the morning show.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: and the night shows are not news. They're entertainment. That
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean what they talk about isn't true, but they
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: can give opinion because they're not under the guise and
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: the auspices of Fox News. They are a separate division
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: within Fox. So that's why the morning show could say,
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: you know, we're hoping that President Trump continues to win
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: this and that. They could say that, and still they're
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: not news anchors, but the news anchors keep it generic
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: keep it right down the middle when they are delivering
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: the news okay that's not true well i defy you
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: i could i could i've had this debate with people
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: and i've taken excerpts from the news and said look
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: here are the 10 stories they did and the 10
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: stories cnn didn't look fox actually sounded more liberal than
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: cnn in that case uh when doing the news doing
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: the news is different from doing the opinion and the
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: morning show and like sean hannity and and laura ingram
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: they are giving opinion. And that's what they're hired for.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: It's not that there's something wrong with that. That's exactly
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: what their job is. So it's okay. But, you know,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: they are conservative, but they admit they're, they acknowledge they're
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: being conservative. Unfortunately, you have many of the so-called mainstream
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: media outlets who for years have tried to pretend that
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: they were mainstream and centrist when they were not. having
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: been in the newsrooms of a number of different companies,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: and there isn't one who's an exception, I know the
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: people who I was surrounded with and what their political
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: leanings were. And it came across on the air based
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: on what they wanted covered or not covered. I always
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: say it's a sin of omission, not a sin of commission.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: When you see certain news outlets just totally ignoring something
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: that might be pro-Trump or anti-liberal, And they just refuse
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: to cover the story, like mainstream media. Never, ever, ever
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: covering the fact. You just don't have them covering when
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: illegal migrants are responsible for the injury or death of individuals.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: They'll cover it as just an injury or a death,
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: but fail to mention that the person was illegal because
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: they believe it has no bearing. Yeah, it does have
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: a bearing because if they weren't here to begin with,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: which they shouldn't have been, then it would have never happened.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: As a taxpaying citizen, I have a right to be
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: protected by my elected officials and by the police. But
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: if you refuse to let the police work with ICE
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: and protect me from somebody who shouldn't be here because
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: by definition they're an invader, well then you're at fault.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: If something happens to me, I'm going to blame you.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: But these elected officials are protected by the law from
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: that and they hide behind it pretending to be compassionate
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: like Kathy Hochul in making New York State a compassionate
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: blue state that is a sanctuary state welcoming to all
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: yeah except for Kathy people who shouldn't be here legally
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: and we're not saying that you should have police pick
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: up the phone and turn them in but when ICE
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: agents come and say listen that person who's in in
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: court right now being tried on a state charge when
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: you are done with them we want to take them
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: and deport them but your people instead are ordered not
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: to notify ICE or not to retain these individuals who
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: are criminals and That's on you, Kathy Hochul. And anybody
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: who gets hurt or dies as a result should be
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: on you. And I hope you don't sleep well at
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: night for those individuals who might be injured or worse
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: at the result of your negligence. Because the fact is
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: a majority of the states in this country do work
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: with ICE. They work just fine with ICE. As a result,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: those states have lower murder rates. Isn't that amazing? Those
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: states have lower felony rates. Those states have lower rape rates.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: Do you think it's just a coincidence, Kathy Hochul?
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 7: No.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: Maybe it has something to do with the criminality of
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: people who, by virtue of coming here without permission, coming
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: across the border without permission, by virtue of that, maybe
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: they are willing to commit other crimes because they don't
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: have respect for the most basic rules that we have,
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: such as coming in legally.
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  Speaker 3: 800-321-7000.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: 0710-800-321-0710. We want to know what you have to say
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: about that. We're going to take your calls coming up next.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: Ken Rosado in on the Friday of Memorial Day. No,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: it's not. It's Labor Day weekend. I knew I was
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: going to slip once today. Friday of Labor Day weekend, 710WOR.
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  Speaker 1: Now, 9 till noon weekdays. The Mark Simone Show on 710WOR.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: Guest hosting for Mark today. Here's Ken Rosato.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: We're going to go to our calls in just a second.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: I just want to point out two things. We've been
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: talking about Maria Bartiromo and Fox. And John Solomon, I'm
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: sure you've seen him on Fox News before. He owns
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: Solomon Reports. Well, he just texted out, he tweeted or
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: X'd out that, quote, the reports that Maria Bartiromo was fired,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: he put in quotes, are not true. She remains under
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: contract with Fox News and receiving her pay until 2029.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: She has been removed from air and won't return, but
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: she continues to remain with Fox at present under the
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: pay or play provision of a contract, which is common
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: in television. So yeah, we call that the non-compete. So
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: I guess as long as she... I guess in order
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: to keep her away from competitors, they still have her
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: under contract and they continue to pay her her salary
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: until 2029. I don't know that Fox is going to
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: want to actually do that the entirety of the time.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: A lot of times they settle for an amount and
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: they say, we'll cut ties, we'll give you this flat
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: amount and you go your way and we go our way.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: That's more than likely going to happen because... There are
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: all sorts of rumors that she's making anywhere from $ 4
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: to $ 8 million a year. And if I'm Fox, do
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: I want to keep paying somebody that amount to keep
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: them off the air? Depends. I mean, she is who
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: she is. Maria Bartiromo is amazing. But we'll see what happens.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: That is from one person. That's from John Solomon. And
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: one other quick story before we go to our calls.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: I thought this was interesting. Would you like to make
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: $ 50 an hour? All right. So he's nodding his head.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: So there is a restaurant. in san francisco that is
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: offering 50 an hour for a dishwasher you heard right
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: they're offering 50 this is a real story apparently this
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: restaurant can't get somebody to work the 8 p.m to
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: 4 a.m overnight shift on the weekends that's how tough
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: it is it is a vietnamese restaurant And they are
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: in San Francisco, and I guess the cost of living
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: is so high there, that's what they pay. But they're
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: paying for real. They're looking for somebody who has a
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: little bit of restaurant experience, who will be a dishwasher.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: And because the tech sector has laid off so many
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: people in San Francisco, most of the applicants are people
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: who are like coding experts. experts wanting to come in
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: and make 50 bucks an hour scrubbing dishes. The catch
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: is you have to be able to do it faster
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: than the owner. And if you look online, he could
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: like scrub 100 dishes in a second. So if you
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: could do it faster than him, you come in, you
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: got a $ 50 an hour job. There you go. 800-321-0710, 800-321-0710.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: Let us go to Josh in Westchester County. Josh, good morning.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 9: All right, Ken.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: And listen, we're glad you're on, filling in for Mark.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: That's a great duo. It's a tandem, a dynamic duo.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: But the thing is, I'm an old Bronx boy, and
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: I think you're an old new rock and shell guy.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: I am.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 4: And yeah, that's good.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: It's very, you know, you know, kind of similar. A
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: lot of people would move to Yonkers and new shell
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: from the Bronx. But before I get to Clancy and
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: what I want to talk about, I want to say
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: something that'll lead to Clancy. Like it was 50 years
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: ago that that's that maniac son of Sam, David Berkowitz
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: was running around murdering young people in Brooklyn, Queens and
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: the Bronx. And he originally, people don't realize this. He
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: originally pleaded insanity to, But it was seven months that
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: he was held at a Brooklyn psych ward. And just
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: before they were supposed to go to trial, he changed
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: his plea to guilty so there was no trial. Because
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: he was in that psych ward for seven months, and
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 3: he really isn't crazy. I mean, there is something wrong
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: when we know that. But he knew what he was doing.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: He wanted no part of a psychiatric ward, and he
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: destroyed those families. David Berkowitz destroyed those families. And the
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: victims of David Berkowitz, the son of Sam, they will
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: always be remembered. He killed some really good young kids. Unfortunately, society,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 3: we accept this. I don't accept it, but people accept this.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 3: It just goes on like what happened to the lady
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: Monday at Times Square. And getting to Clancy, listen, if
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: she knew... What she was doing, it got told by
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: her husband to get out of here, to go to
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: the store, to go to the pharmacy and plan this
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: whole thing. I think she's it's first degree murder.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 4: That's what it is to me.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: But I would have to follow Massachusetts law. And there
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: is a legal definition of insanity. And also, let's face it,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 3: she loses either way because she's going to go into
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: a state jail prison in Massachusetts. And people who hurt
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: children are not welcome in state criminal prisons anymore. And
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 3: if she goes to a psych ward and she's really
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: not that crazy, it's not going to be a comfortable
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 3: place to be there. But let's hope they keep her
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: there for like three decades.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: You know, Josh, can I just, and I'll do a dialogue.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to hang up on you. I just,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: the one thing that comes to mind, though, is the
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: fact that she tried to kill herself suggests the mental
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: instability there. So, yeah, you know, maybe you could say, well,
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: it was after the fact. You know, here she already
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: killed her children. She saw what now she was facing.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: So now she attempted. So that's the only thing for
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: me that suggests the mental instability. That does not, in
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: my mind, though, condone you from killing the children. But
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: I do believe that there was mental instability there of
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: some kind. And we had the caller earlier from the
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: Carolinas who was saying, I believe her name was Kathy,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: who was saying that it is possible to be mentally
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: unstable even when making a decision to send your husband
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: to do whatever, that you can be. But again, even
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: she said that she deserves manslaughter. So Where would you
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: come down? What do you think it's going to end up?
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: Again, I would have to follow Massachusetts state criminal law
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: because every 50 states are all different.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 4: Plus the commonwealth.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 3: But the thing is, the problem I have is if
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: she knew what she was doing and she killed the
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: baby last because she knew one of the two older
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: ones might have been able to run out and start
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 3: screaming and draw attention to this, all right? Right. So
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: I have to sit on it. But to me, it
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: looks like if it's a murder convict, it's first degree
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: because she planned the whole thing out, getting the guy
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 3: out of the house. And she was also going to
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: her phone, seeing what the distance was to that restaurant
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: that they never used, which was further away from the
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: one they used to take out.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: Pause you. Pause you. We got breaking news. Mistrial declared
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: in Lindsay Clancy trial just came out. Fox News is
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: saying jury deadlocked. MS now is saying mistrial declared. So,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: all right, we will get, and yeah, and CNN now
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: saying Clancy judge will declare mistrial, giving defense one hour
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: to appeal for stay. So there you go. We'll see where,
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: so this may have to do it all over again.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: We'll see where that goes. Josh, I appreciate the call. And,
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: of course, now we toss that just as now she
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: has to go get all new news again. But Daria
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: Albinger has the news. Good morning, Daria. Well, I am
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: happy to have a co-anchor in these situations, Ken. Thanks
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: for updating us on that.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: The Mark Simone Show, live from the WOR LifeVac Studios.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: Guest hosting for Mark today, here's Ken Rosato.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: And it is good to be with you. Once again,
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: we have breaking news. If you didn't catch it right
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: before our break, a judge has declared a mistrial or
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: is about to declare a mistrial, we should say, in
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: the Clancy trial. He is staying the case for an hour.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: to give basically when you do a one-hour stay, it
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: pauses the ruling for an hour, giving the opposing party
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: time to file an emergency appeal before the court officially
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: legalizes the dismissal or releases the defendant. So that is
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: what is happening. So there has been a mistrial declared,
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: but pending the one-hour stay. We'll see what happens at
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: the one-hour stay. It is not likely to make any
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: difference here. It'll be a mistrial, which means that the
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: whole thing is going to be Have to be done
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: over again with a different jury because the prosecution already
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: said that they will retry the case if this, in fact,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: ends up happening. So we'd love to know what you
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: have to say about it.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: 800-321-0710.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: 800-321-0710. 710WOR, The Voice of New York. This is Ken
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: Rosato in for Mark. And the Labor Day holiday weekend
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: is here. And you are going to get to a
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: point where you are just tired of having your 19th
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: hot dog. and uncle Joe's hamburgers. It tastes like lighter fluid. And, uh,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: and you know, you have that uncle Joe. I, you know,
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at the people in the booth. They're all
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: laughing because they've had that burger and just take one bite.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: And they're like, how's the burger? It tastes like crap. Oh,
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: this is delicious. Just delicious. It's raw. And it's a nasty.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: So you will want to instead go catch the movies
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: and a guy who knows more about the movies than anyone.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: I know Roger Friedman of showbiz 411 here with some
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: ideas of what to check out. Also, by the way,
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: I check out your site all the time. You also
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: do a lot on news that's happening. So before we
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: get to the movies, what do you think about this trial?
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 4: You know, I.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 8: Feel like if you kill your three children, you should
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 8: go to jail. I mean, even for a week. I
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 8: don't understand how you could not. But I guess there's
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 8: a lot of sympathy for her. And, you know, maybe
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 8: she'll get out of it completely. But don't you agree?
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: I totally agree.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 8: I mean, if you kill even one child, I think
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 8: you go to jail. By the time you got to
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 8: the third one, that's it.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: We had a woman called from North Carolina. I don't
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: know if she's a lawyer or not, but she sure
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: sounds like it. And she was talking about, even she,
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: she was saying how some people were just saying, oh,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: she deserves a death penalty, even though she can't get
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: it in Massachusetts. But the woman did say, when all
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: was said and done, she said, I think she deserves
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: to be convicted of manslaughter. And that would be up
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: to 20 years behind bars. And that kind of makes
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: sense to me because now that takes into account the psychosis.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: And I think that's sort of a charge or conviction, rather,
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: that a lot of people would have accepted. But this
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: is kind of a surprise, I think, with the amount
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: of evidence, don't you?
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 8: Well, with the amount of evidence and also that she's
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 8: sitting there in a wheelchair, which makes her very sympathetic.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 8: um and i feel bad for her about the wheelchair
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 8: but it's too bad i'm sure there's wheelchair it's handicap
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 8: accessible in jail um and the other thing is they
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 8: keep saying that there's one juror who's causing the problem
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 8: is that it.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah apparently that was the case we'll know more i'm
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: sure because that person is now free to talk to
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: the media they don't have to but they're right and
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: you know that person is going to come and talk
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: at some point.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah they'll someone will pay them for their sure
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 8: um No. So, you know, it's, it, it'll make a
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 8: great movie one day. It'll certainly make, these are the
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 8: kinds of things that used to make great movies of
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 8: the week on TV.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 4: Remember those movies?
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: I sure did. And of course, Roger Friedman and showbiz
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: 411 always go in there. That was the best segue ever, Roger.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: So let's talk, let's talk about it then. A couple
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: of things happened. And first of all, in the box office,
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: Spider-Man crossing $ 900 million today. Even as we speak.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 4: It's happening right now.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: But it's a great film.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 8: But I mean, to get to a billion dollars for
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 8: a domestic film, people will have had to have seen
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 8: it two or three times. So there must be people
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 8: who have even seen it more than that. But they
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 8: do love it. And it is really good. And it's
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 8: really been a phenomenon all summer. But just like The Odyssey,
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 8: The Odyssey actually is now going back into IMAX theaters
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 8: and is picking up box office and heading towards $ 600 million,
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 8: which is incredible for a three-hour movie.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 4: Based on a poem from 3,000 years ago.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: And a little poetic interpretation, the way they did the movie.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: But nonetheless, you know what I'm really happy about The
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: Odyssey doing so well? Because the director took so much
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: painstaking time in shooting the way he shot it, and
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: getting a special machine so you don't hear the noise
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: with the, I mean, to go through that effort and
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: spend all that money, you want there to be a reward.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: Otherwise it would die with him. You know, it would
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: never be done again. Now we might see some amazingly
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: shot films.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 8: I think it'll, it'll encourage studios and filmmakers to really
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 8: try and do unusual things. We're going to see the,
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 8: the Odyssey is going to, I'm getting all this, you know,
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 8: I get stuff. We start to get pelted now around
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 8: Labor Day with Oscar information and, what's coming for the fall,
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 8: what's going to win awards, what's going to be nominated.
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  Speaker 8: But really, The Odyssey is going to win everything next March.
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  Speaker 8: I can't imagine that it'll take on fewer than 10 Oscars.
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  Speaker 8: It's just really the film of the year. So that's
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  Speaker 8: very exciting. Coyote vs. Acme is my favorite movie right now.
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  Speaker 4: And you haven't gone to see that yet.
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  Speaker 2: No, I have not. But I am going to check
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  Speaker 2: it out because you just said you love it.
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  Speaker 4: No, I love it.
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  Speaker 8: And people who see it love it. You know, the
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  Speaker 8: story about this movie was that Warner Brothers canceled after
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 8: it was made. They looked at it and said, no,
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  Speaker 8: we're going to put it on the shelf, take a
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  Speaker 8: tax write-off, and you'll never see it again. And a
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  Speaker 8: huge campaign started to revive it. And finally, this very
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  Speaker 8: little company called Ketchup Entertainment found $ 50 million and paid
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 8: Warner Brothers so that they could release it. And today
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  Speaker 8: it's at $ 22 million after just a week. It's going
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  Speaker 8: to earn this money back easily. And it's so much fun.
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  Speaker 8: It's really a great movie. And it's like Who Framed
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  Speaker 8: Roger Rabbit. You know, it's live action, and then it's animation.
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  Speaker 8: And the live action people, that cast is led by
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  Speaker 8: Will Forte and John Cena, because the Wile E.
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  Speaker 4: Coyote sues the Acme Company for all the... Oh, I
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  Speaker 4: love it.
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  Speaker 8: Things that they've sold him that have not helped blow
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  Speaker 8: up the Roadrunner.
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  Speaker 4: And it's great. I keep joking.
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  Speaker 8: I keep joking that best actor is going to, they're
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 8: fighting Roadrunner and Wiley Cotter fighting over who's going to
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  Speaker 8: be best actor and who's going to be supporting out there.
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  Speaker 8: And of course, Bugs Bunny has a big part in
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  Speaker 8: the movie and it's sort of the showstopper. But it's
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  Speaker 8: just really so much fun. And with all the stuff
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 8: going on around us in the world, we need a
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  Speaker 8: little fun.
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  Speaker 4: And this is it.
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  Speaker 2: I agree. Hey, listen, on Showbiz 411, you also write
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  Speaker 2: about George Michael, the Faith Tour concert film. I think
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  Speaker 2: George Michael was one of the more impressive musicians of
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: our time and just did not get a lot of
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: the applause that he deserved. because he was successful with
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: certain groups of people, but not everyone, but he wrote
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: his music. Well, he sang great. He, he was a
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: very talented person.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was very talented.
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  Speaker 8: And I think also, you know, he undermines himself because
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 8: he had so many drug problems and arrests and things
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  Speaker 8: like that. And his, his career sort of, uh, wound
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 8: up being more about scandal than being music. Sadly, this, uh,
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  Speaker 8: But sadly, but this concert film is really great. And
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  Speaker 8: I think it's coming out this week or next week.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 8: It's coming soon. And I think just like how Michael
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 8: Jackson's movie has done so well, I think you're going
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 8: to see a lot of people sort of all of
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 8: a sudden say, oh, I love all these songs from
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 8: George Michael.
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  Speaker 4: So that that's going to do very well, I think.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you there. I really think so, too.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: I'll be checking it out for sure. And then, of course,
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: over on CBS Mornings, Nora O'Donnell is going to be
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: joining the show with Gayle King. I know Gayle King.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: I've never met Nora, but I think she's a phenomenal anchor.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: What do you think about the pairing?
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 8: Well, it's a strange time at CBS, you know, how
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 8: this all started. Nora O'Donnell was anchoring the CBS Evening
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 8: News a year and a half ago, and then they
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  Speaker 8: pulled her off and gave it to those two guys.
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  Speaker 2: Tony DeCoppo. Oh, no, you mean Maurice Dubois, who's also,
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: by the way, an extremely nice man. I know him well.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, they both are. They both are.
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  Speaker 8: But the show that they gave them was very poorly produced.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 4: Nobody watched it.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 8: And then Nora O'Donnell was sort of cut loose within CBS,
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 8: and she was doing pieces on 60 Minutes and didn't
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 8: seem to know what she was doing. And in the interim,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 8: there's been all these other changes. So now she's going
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 8: to join Gayle King, and.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 4: We'll see what happens. Gayle King and.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 8: Nora O'Donnell hosting a show together would have been like
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 8: Barbara Walters and Diane Sawyer at the same time in
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 8: the old days.
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  Speaker 4: They were very competitive.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: Yes, I can imagine. As you said, and I'm laughing,
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: having worked with them both. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't think Gayle, to tell you the truth,
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 4: is too pleased with this.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Gayle. There was nowhere— Gail, listen, if
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: I may, Gail will be the queen bee on the set.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: She won't let anyone else not be. But at the
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: same time, as long as you understand that you are,
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: you are the Gail, that is Gail's show you're coming into,
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: everything will be great. If there is any kind.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 4: Of attitude on that set, I don't know.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 2: As long as she's getting a check.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 7: Hey listen when i joined so she moved to washington
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 7: that's she moved to washington to do the news and
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 7: then now she's had to move back here which is
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 7: really crazy uh because.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: Listen if i may when i when i joined the
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: set on channel seven with laurie stokes i knew that
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: i was joining laurie stokes's show and i remember the
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: general manager saying no you are co-equal anchors and i
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: thought to myself i i am not first of all
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: i respected laurie stokes more so i I acknowledge that
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: she was there first and that she was a great anchor.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: And guess what? Day one, when I deferred to Lori,
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: we became best friends thereafter because I respect her. And
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: I think that's got, you have to have that mutual respect.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: And we've been friends, like I said, 25 years as
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: a result. So let's see if that happens.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 4: Well, we love Lori Stokes.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, we do.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 4: And you're absolutely right.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 8: But I don't know how this will play out on CBS,
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 8: but everything at CBS right now is up in the air.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 8: They're going to have a whole new kind of 60
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 8: minutes starting very shortly.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 4: You know, Within the next couple of weeks.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: I think in this era they should lower it, make
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 2: it 57 and a half minutes and see if they
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: can save a couple of bucks in the process. They
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: might as well at this point. Roger Friedman, we're out
• 1:45:05
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• 1:45:07
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• 1:45:15
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• 1:45:19
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• 1:45:22
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• 1:45:25
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• 1:45:49
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• 1:45:52
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• 1:46:01
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• 1:46:06
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• 1:46:10
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• 1:46:13
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