Latest / Generations Church / The Be.Attitudes of Following Jesus Series - Part 4A: Behave Like Jesus (Do As Jesus Did) | Andy Yeoh
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Hello there, Welcome to Generations Church Podcasts. We're so glad
- 0:06Speaker 1: you're listening to this message. We hope you'll be inspired
- 0:09Speaker 1: to grow in your faith in God. Enjoy the message godless.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Okay, So, if behaving like Jesus, meaning doing what he did,
- 0:21Speaker 2: is becoming a person of love, which is what Jesus is, right,
- 0:26Speaker 2: He's a person of love meaning a person who's loving, kind, gentle, patience,
- 0:31Speaker 2: and all of these wonderful things. I think we all
- 0:34Speaker 2: can kind of get it out head and go, yeah,
- 0:37Speaker 2: that's a good person. I want to try to be
- 0:39Speaker 2: like that, more kind, more loving, more gentle. But hey,
- 0:45Speaker 2: if doing what Jesus did includes all the other stuff
- 0:49Speaker 2: like walking water, raising the dead, how about this one
- 0:55Speaker 2: turning water into wine? How many people like to save
- 0:58Speaker 2: some money and do that?
- 1:00Speaker 3: We do that? Isn't he God?
- 1:02Speaker 2: And isn't that reserved for someone divine? I just need
- 1:07Speaker 2: to do the just be more patient and more kind. Right,
- 1:09Speaker 2: Like when you say doing what Jesus did, behaving like him,
- 1:12Speaker 2: we are talking about like the normal stuff like we
- 1:16Speaker 2: learn in moral class, be kinder, be nicer. Yeah, but no,
- 1:22Speaker 2: behaving like Jesus is to do everything Jesus said and
- 1:27Speaker 2: did everything, not just some stuff, not just pick and choose.
- 1:32Speaker 2: It's to be haveve like him in all its essence.
- 1:38Speaker 3: Amen.
- 1:39Speaker 2: So how can we do that? We need to first
- 1:42Speaker 2: define love?
- 1:45Speaker 3: Why?
- 1:46Speaker 2: Because everything Jesus does he does out of love. So
- 1:51Speaker 2: if we are going to be like him, we then
- 1:54Speaker 2: also need to do everything we do out of love.
- 1:57Speaker 2: That means we have to define what love is. Jesus
- 2:01Speaker 2: is the perfect persona and model of love. There's no
- 2:06Speaker 2: greater example of love than Jesus himself. Somebody say, amen,
- 2:11Speaker 2: Now we know that Jesus did not define love with
- 2:13Speaker 2: just words. He didn't give us a dictionary. He didn't
- 2:17Speaker 2: just give us some definition. He defined love with his life.
- 2:20Speaker 3: Amen.
- 2:21Speaker 2: Greater love has no one than this. Then someone laid
- 2:25Speaker 2: down his life for his friends. He actually said this first,
- 2:28Speaker 2: and then he went and did it. So Jesus didn't
- 2:31Speaker 2: just define love through words, He defined it through his
- 2:35Speaker 2: actions and his life.
- 2:36Speaker 3: Amen.
- 2:37Speaker 2: So how do we define love? We talked about this
- 2:40Speaker 2: last week. Love is self sacrificial. Love always esteemed others
- 2:44Speaker 2: higher than themselves. Things like that. All right, So love
- 2:48Speaker 2: is not just a nice feeling. Love is action. How
- 2:53Speaker 2: many wives can agree to that? Amen, husbands who years teenagers. Amen.
- 3:02Speaker 2: Love is not just a nice goods from feeling. Love
- 3:07Speaker 2: is action, especially in Jesus's mind, in his paradigm, love
- 3:13Speaker 2: is action. That's why the Bible says their children and
- 3:17Speaker 2: all we are all God's children, let us not love
- 3:20Speaker 2: with words or speech, but with and in truth. Now,
- 3:27Speaker 2: not that love is not something you feel. You will
- 3:31Speaker 2: feel love, but it is ultimately something that you do.
- 3:35Speaker 2: Love is something that you do, not just feel, and
- 3:40Speaker 2: actions that come through the flow of love through you.
- 3:44Speaker 2: So your acts have to come through love, and those
- 3:50Speaker 2: acts become an act of love.
- 3:52Speaker 3: Amen.
- 3:54Speaker 2: So this is where the whole idea of apprenticeship, that
- 3:58Speaker 2: metaphor is incredibly helpful. You are an apprentice, whether you're
- 4:05Speaker 2: an apprentice to Jesus or your apprentice of a mechanic,
- 4:09Speaker 2: or apprentice of an electrician or programmar coder, musician, artists,
- 4:15Speaker 2: business person, you name it. Basically, you are learning from
- 4:19Speaker 2: a master, master businessman, master artists, master musician, how to do,
- 4:26Speaker 2: how to behave like the master does. So your goal
- 4:30Speaker 2: in the end is not just information but transformation. We're
- 4:36Speaker 2: not just learning so that we can know in our
- 4:38Speaker 2: heir what discipleship is we're being transformed, becoming the same
- 4:43Speaker 2: type of person as your master.
- 4:46Speaker 3: Amen.
- 4:47Speaker 2: That means if your master responds a certain way when
- 4:50Speaker 2: he's angry, we're trying to respond that same way when
- 4:54Speaker 2: we are angry. So it's not just hate, knowledge a
- 4:58Speaker 2: heart change from the inside and externally, your hands on
- 5:02Speaker 2: you are involved. You are doing the things that Jesus did.
- 5:06Speaker 2: So we are apprenticing under Jesus, not just and I
- 5:10Speaker 2: say this carefully, don't don't misunderstand what I'm saying. We're
- 5:14Speaker 2: not just learning from Jesus just to be loving, patient
- 5:18Speaker 2: and kind. That's all good, that's all characters stuff, but
- 5:22Speaker 2: we're also actually learning to say and do the things
- 5:28Speaker 2: he said and did. And so you've heard this before,
- 5:32Speaker 2: there's something called the apprentices apprenticeship learning theory.
- 5:36Speaker 3: It's a four stage process. Uh.
- 5:39Speaker 2: And it's a relationship between the master and the apprentice.
- 5:42Speaker 2: And let's just say here for civil illustration, I'm the master,
- 5:44Speaker 2: your the apprentice. It is goes something like this, I
- 5:47Speaker 2: do you watch, so you watch what I do, and
- 5:52Speaker 2: then I do you help, and then you do I help,
- 5:58Speaker 2: and then you do I watch.
- 6:01Speaker 3: Amen. And watching isn't passive.
- 6:03Speaker 2: It wasn't It's not just like hands off is to
- 6:06Speaker 2: empower you to go be all that you can be.
- 6:09Speaker 3: So I do you watch? I do you help? You do?
- 6:14Speaker 3: I help you do? I watch you?
- 6:17Speaker 2: You could map this process onto Jesus' relationship with his
- 6:24Speaker 2: disciples in the four Gospels. You can see this process
- 6:27Speaker 2: happening step one. Didn't he say, you know, step on
- 6:31Speaker 2: to what I do?
- 6:32Speaker 3: You watch? Right?
- 6:33Speaker 2: Didn't he say? Come follow me, Come and see, come
- 6:36Speaker 2: follow me. I will go out and heal the sick,
- 6:40Speaker 2: I will preach the gospel, I will teach the way,
- 6:42Speaker 2: I will cast out demons.
- 6:44Speaker 3: I will stand up against injustice.
- 6:46Speaker 2: All these things Jesus did and say he did all this,
- 6:50Speaker 2: and he said, come and see follow me, watch me.
- 6:53Speaker 2: You just you follow me around Israel and watch. And
- 6:58Speaker 2: then what happens at the very end? You do I watch?
- 7:02Speaker 3: Or you do?
- 7:02Speaker 2: I help Jesus marching orders was what go and make
- 7:06Speaker 2: disciples go and do?
- 7:08Speaker 3: Like wise? You do? I help you do? I watch? Amen.
- 7:16Speaker 3: That's Matt Tew twenty eight. You know this already.
- 7:18Speaker 2: You probably remember it is my heart right in like
- 7:21Speaker 2: sixteen different translations. Okay, great, So apprentice to Jesus apprenticeship
- 7:27Speaker 2: to Jesus is learning from the Master how to say
- 7:32Speaker 2: the things, kind of things he would say, do the
- 7:34Speaker 2: kind of things he would do. Amen, how of you
- 7:37Speaker 2: are young enough to remember this, what would Jesus do?
- 7:43Speaker 3: We all had that bracelet. It was the rage back.
- 7:46Speaker 2: Then, I think eighties, nineties, and you know, it was
- 7:49Speaker 2: like a big movement around the world.
- 7:51Speaker 3: You know. Some people argue all this, Some preachers.
- 7:53Speaker 2: Say, he's not about what Jesus would do, it's about
- 7:56Speaker 2: what he did, sure, and all of those things. But
- 8:01Speaker 2: it's a good question. It is a good question because
- 8:04Speaker 2: we're learning to be like him. So it's a good
- 8:07Speaker 2: question to ask me what would Jesus do? But hey,
- 8:10Speaker 2: maybe a more helpful way to ask this question is
- 8:14Speaker 2: what would Jesus do if he were me? Not that
- 8:19Speaker 2: he will kind of like fit into your your you,
- 8:23Speaker 2: but it's more like, you know, because most of us
- 8:25Speaker 2: here are not a celibate Jewish rabbi from the first century.
- 8:31Speaker 3: That's not who we are.
- 8:32Speaker 2: You're a university student, you're an igcsc student.
- 8:36Speaker 3: You're a mom with a two year old.
- 8:38Speaker 2: You are an entrepreneur, you're a landscape artist, you're a
- 8:41Speaker 2: ballet dancer, you're a programmer, you are all of those things.
- 8:44Speaker 2: You're a cyclist, you're a runner, you're all those things.
- 8:48Speaker 3: Right, So what would Jesus do if.
- 8:50Speaker 2: He were wearing baggy jeans, oversized T shirt, going to
- 8:56Speaker 2: work on a Monday and your boss is screaming at you?
- 8:58Speaker 3: What would he do if he were that?
- 9:02Speaker 2: Because we have our we do our things, we have
- 9:04Speaker 2: our lives, our jobs, our relationships. Right, so the the
- 9:08Speaker 2: more helpful question could be.
- 9:11Speaker 3: What would Jesus do if he were me?
- 9:15Speaker 2: So the driving questions of an apprentice of Jesus is this,
- 9:20Speaker 2: In each situation, what would Jesus say and do? My
- 9:26Speaker 2: boss is unfair to me, he's mistreating me in the office.
- 9:30Speaker 2: If Jesus were me, what would he do? Someone cut
- 9:34Speaker 2: my lane, someone who is on duty today but didn't
- 9:37Speaker 2: show up on time, didn't tell us ahead of time,
- 9:40Speaker 2: whatever he maybe, what would Jesus do and say in
- 9:45Speaker 2: that situation? Secondly is how do I then train under
- 9:50Speaker 2: Jesus to become the kind of person That's what spiritual
- 9:54Speaker 2: formation is from the inside out. Who would naturally it
- 10:00Speaker 2: gets to a point where it's natural, naturally speak and
- 10:04Speaker 2: act and live and love as Jesus would in that situation.
- 10:08Speaker 3: Maybe you don't start out that way.
- 10:10Speaker 2: Maybe you react in anger once upon a time, but
- 10:13Speaker 2: through the spiritual formation, you now naturally react or respond
- 10:17Speaker 2: to those situations like Jesus would.
- 10:21Speaker 3: To talk about that, we have to talk about.
- 10:22Speaker 2: The expressions of Jesus behavior, and they are sort of
- 10:27Speaker 2: encapsulated in these two concepts in the Bible called the
- 10:31Speaker 2: fruit of the Spirit and gives of the Spirit.
- 10:34Speaker 3: Amen, Okay, I'll just give you a scripture.
- 10:37Speaker 2: I won't read them Galicians five twenty three, first Cirinteen twelve,
- 10:41Speaker 2: eight to ten. There are other passages as well that
- 10:43Speaker 2: details that gives of the spirit. I thought it would
- 10:46Speaker 2: be helpful for me to just list them down right.
- 10:48Speaker 2: So through the spirit love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness,
- 10:55Speaker 2: self control. That's the fruit of the spirit. What are
- 10:59Speaker 2: the gifts of the spirit? Okay, stuff like wisdom, knowledge, faith, healing, miracles, prophecy,
- 11:06Speaker 2: oh my lemon, know, get away, discerning spirits, tongues, Uh,
- 11:10Speaker 2: interpreation of tongues, and by tongues, it's not kissing, it's okay,
- 11:13Speaker 2: it's a language.
- 11:15Speaker 3: So I can do that.
- 11:17Speaker 2: Administration helps serving teaching, giving, encouragement, leadership, mercy, the other
- 11:24Speaker 2: stuff to like celibacy, poverty, those are gifts too. So
- 11:28Speaker 2: through the spirit are like very internal stuff. Character stuff
- 11:33Speaker 2: is like inner dispositions of the heart. So essentially, through
- 11:39Speaker 2: the spirit is the character of Jesus, and the gifts
- 11:44Speaker 2: are the acts and.
- 11:46Speaker 3: Practices of Jesus.
- 11:47Speaker 2: So Jesus healed, Jesus encouraged, Jesus taught amen, he prophesied,
- 11:53Speaker 2: He's spoken tongues or spoke, and he.
- 11:55Speaker 3: Exalted, and he preached.
- 11:58Speaker 2: Jesus was loving that his character, he was patient, kind,
- 12:01Speaker 2: blah blah blah. When we say behave like Jesus, are
- 12:05Speaker 2: we saying just be more fruit of the spirit and
- 12:10Speaker 2: not so much gift or are we saying be gives
- 12:13Speaker 2: not so fruit? Or is it both? Now both the
- 12:18Speaker 2: fruits and gives are embodied in Jesus. You can see
- 12:23Speaker 2: all of it in the person of Jesus Christ, whom
- 12:27Speaker 2: we are saying this process of the typo shape we
- 12:31Speaker 2: are trying to become and behave like him. Yeah, So,
- 12:34Speaker 2: if we were talking about doing what Jesus did exclusively
- 12:37Speaker 2: on the fruit of the spirit side, on the relational
- 12:42Speaker 2: emotional side, I think most of us will be like, yeah,
- 12:47Speaker 2: I'm already on that path. I'm trying to be more
- 12:49Speaker 2: loving towards my wife, I'm trying to be more kind
- 12:52Speaker 2: towards my children. I'm trying to be more patient towards
- 12:55Speaker 2: my boors and yaddi yara. But if you're talking about
- 12:59Speaker 2: the stuff he did, what administration helping, preaching, proper sign
- 13:03Speaker 2: those things? Wow, isn't he like God? Like he's perfect?
- 13:08Speaker 2: I mean, he's a guy that walked on water and
- 13:10Speaker 2: raised the day. How can I possibly do all of
- 13:14Speaker 2: these things?
- 13:16Speaker 3: Aunt?
- 13:16Speaker 2: Those things supernatural and not natural? Haw Re you use
- 13:23Speaker 2: those word before, like supernatural, like those things are supernatural
- 13:26Speaker 2: and then those things are natural?
- 13:28Speaker 3: Right you probably have thought that way before? Yes?
- 13:30Speaker 2: No, yeah, did you know that this is not a
- 13:38Speaker 2: biblical mindset? Did you know that Jesus never thought this way?
- 13:46Speaker 3: You will never find Jesus.
- 13:48Speaker 2: Saying, ah, these things is natural and these things are supernatural.
- 13:55Speaker 2: To him, he's just well, he used a particular concept
- 14:00Speaker 2: of phrase to describe it all.
- 14:01Speaker 3: He calls it the Kingdom of God.
- 14:04Speaker 2: You know where this idea of oh that's supernatural, some
- 14:09Speaker 2: people can do that and that's natural. More of us
- 14:13Speaker 2: can do it. You know where it came from. It's
- 14:16Speaker 2: a concept that just it's sort of made popular a
- 14:19Speaker 2: couple of hundred years ago, not too long ago. It's
- 14:21Speaker 2: in the sixteen hundred, maybe it's the seventeenth and eighteenth century.
- 14:26Speaker 2: Is during the Age of Enlightenment. It's also called the
- 14:30Speaker 2: Age of Reason. Getting some clues right now. It was
- 14:35Speaker 2: the intellectual and philosophical movement that occurred in Europe in
- 14:38Speaker 2: the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. And because it happened, it
- 14:43Speaker 2: kind of like infiltraated influenced our education system and our
- 14:47Speaker 2: thinking and our science and the world. The Enlightenment featured
- 14:52Speaker 2: a range of social ideas centered on the value of
- 14:55Speaker 2: knowledge learned by way of rationalism and empiricism, and political
- 15:01Speaker 2: ideas such as natural law, liberty, progress, toleration, fraternity, constitutional government,
- 15:06Speaker 2: and the formal separation of church and state. All these
- 15:12Speaker 2: dichotomy separations. A large part of it comes from this period.
- 15:17Speaker 2: Until today we feel the effects. But it must be
- 15:20Speaker 2: noted it was not the mindset of Jesus. So when
- 15:24Speaker 2: Jesus said the things he said, he didn't think this way.
- 15:26Speaker 2: That's what we need to know. Okay, I'm not saying
- 15:29Speaker 2: that there's no suching as supernatural.
- 15:32Speaker 3: I'm saying that's not how Jesus thought.
- 15:35Speaker 2: So in the Enlightenment, the smart people told all of
- 15:38Speaker 2: us that some things are natural and can be proven
- 15:42Speaker 2: by signs, and some things are supernatural and cannot be
- 15:48Speaker 2: proven by signs. They had to be taken on faith.
- 15:50Speaker 2: If you have faith, if you believe. So some things
- 15:55Speaker 2: can be proven by science, some things cannot. Those things
- 15:57Speaker 2: that cannot, Oh, those are supernatural. I'm very sure whether
- 16:01Speaker 2: we can actually believe or even do those things. Let's
- 16:03Speaker 2: just ignore them, or let's just wait till we can
- 16:06Speaker 2: prove them. So suddenly there's a dichotomy. Suddenly there's a separation, Yes, signs,
- 16:12Speaker 2: things that follow the laws of nature and things that
- 16:17Speaker 2: transcends the law of nature. Yeah, that's not the worldview
- 16:24Speaker 2: of Jesus at all. Let's be on the same page
- 16:27Speaker 2: or that it's this idea is a dichotomy that came
- 16:31Speaker 2: out of the Enlightenment period, is an Enlightenment paradigm. So basically,
- 16:37Speaker 2: in those days there were all these people who said
- 16:39Speaker 2: things like, hey, you know.
- 16:40Speaker 3: What, last time, last time, my grandmother say.
- 16:46Speaker 2: The sun come up because ah, God made the sun
- 16:49Speaker 2: come up, the ring come down because God make the
- 16:53Speaker 2: ring come down. And then now the crops grower so
- 16:56Speaker 2: that we won't die. All this a is God work.
- 17:00Speaker 2: We used to thing like that, but now he's smarter.
- 17:05Speaker 2: Now he's smart already. Now we know it's not God.
- 17:09Speaker 2: It's science.
- 17:10Speaker 3: It's the loss of nature, it's the loss of the universe.
- 17:14Speaker 2: Ah, it's not God. Actually we should tell them. Actually
- 17:21Speaker 2: your first thought was all right, it is God. But
- 17:24Speaker 2: but then they thought we figured it out, that's all
- 17:28Speaker 2: Grandma tells. They didn't know how to explain. They had
- 17:31Speaker 2: no science manic or no microscope. They don't have all
- 17:34Speaker 2: these things, so they didn't know. So they blame everything
- 17:37Speaker 2: on God. But now we know it's science. And so
- 17:42Speaker 2: then this idea sifted into society and so now we
- 17:45Speaker 2: have this dichotomy. Okay, your history lesson, I said, all right,
- 17:49Speaker 2: but then there will always be oppositions. They were so
- 17:53Speaker 2: there were this group of intellectual elites. Many of them
- 17:56Speaker 2: became founding Fathers of America. They were willing to just
- 18:01Speaker 2: throw everything out and say ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah God, God,
- 18:05Speaker 2: God's not involved. No, they wanted to retain some judio
- 18:09Speaker 2: Christian ideas, theology, morality, and so there were people who say,
- 18:17Speaker 2: you know what, so out of that worldview, there were
- 18:20Speaker 2: people who say, yes, Jesus was a he existed, he's real,
- 18:24Speaker 2: he was a good teacher, but he didn't actually do
- 18:28Speaker 2: all those miraculous things. Jesus exists, he's real. He walked
- 18:33Speaker 2: the earth, but he didn't turn water into wine. He
- 18:35Speaker 2: didn't raise the dead, he didn't walk on water. All
- 18:38Speaker 2: those are just tales, myths, legends. And then the all
- 18:42Speaker 2: these staunch followers of Jesus who saw what's happening and
- 18:46Speaker 2: go oh no, no, no, no, no, no no. So
- 18:49Speaker 2: their comeback was this. That comeback was no, no, no, no,
- 18:52Speaker 2: no no no. Hey, read the Bible. You see, Jesus
- 18:56Speaker 2: walked on water, he turned water into wine, he made
- 18:59Speaker 2: the lame work, he raised the day. You see, that's
- 19:02Speaker 2: proof that Jesus is God. Because you got all the
- 19:06Speaker 2: people who say he's not god like. He's a good man,
- 19:10Speaker 2: he's a wonderful man. His teachings are very good, but
- 19:14Speaker 2: he's not God. So the people who wanted to respond
- 19:17Speaker 2: to they say, no, no, no, no, you see, don't
- 19:19Speaker 2: water to Windley on water. He is God, you know,
- 19:24Speaker 2: till today some of us, many of us actually still
- 19:28Speaker 2: use that argument. Jesus performed miracles, therefore he's God. Now God,
- 19:35Speaker 2: listen carefully. I'm not a heretic, I don't think i am.
- 19:38Speaker 2: But there's a problem with that logic, because if you
- 19:43Speaker 2: read a Bible, there were people before Jesus that perform miracles.
- 19:51Speaker 2: Elijah called down fire from heaven on a pool of water.
- 19:57Speaker 2: Elijah took out his jacket, wagged the river, and he buttered.
- 20:02Speaker 2: Elijah raised the dead, So he's God. How many of
- 20:09Speaker 2: us read those say, Ah, he performed miracles, he's God.
- 20:14Speaker 3: We don't do that right.
- 20:15Speaker 2: You know, there were people after Jesus that performed miracles too.
- 20:20Speaker 2: Was it Paula Peter's shadow healed the sea? Was it Peter?
- 20:24Speaker 2: He sent his handkerchief, his covid infested chief, and he
- 20:30Speaker 2: healed the sick?
- 20:31Speaker 3: Oh?
- 20:32Speaker 2: How many well, ago, Ah, Peter's God. Why don't we
- 20:36Speaker 2: do that? So what do we say? Because shee wan water,
- 20:39Speaker 2: water wine, he's God? This is where we gotta be careful.
- 20:43Speaker 2: I'm not saying that the miracles don't prove that he's God.
- 20:47Speaker 2: But you see, you see how this idea is kind
- 20:50Speaker 2: of messing us up. It's a it's a flawed logic,
- 20:56Speaker 2: flowed logic. If Jesus did this miracle stuff because he
- 21:00Speaker 2: was God, then naturally we can't do these type of
- 21:04Speaker 2: things because we are not God. So if those things
- 21:08Speaker 2: Jesus did he did because he's God, then we can
- 21:11Speaker 2: all wrong conclusion.
- 21:13Speaker 3: We cannot be like Jesus.
- 21:15Speaker 2: South can we start a new series next week if
- 21:18Speaker 2: we think that the miracles of Jesus is the only
- 21:22Speaker 2: proof that he is God and that's why he's God. See,
- 21:28Speaker 2: if Jesus is God, he's got without the miracles. We've
- 21:32Speaker 2: got to first understand that God is still God even
- 21:38Speaker 2: if he doesn't perform one miracle. Remember the laymen that came,
- 21:44Speaker 2: the four friends, the four friends that drop him from
- 21:46Speaker 2: the roof and then drop him.
- 21:49Speaker 3: We all know.
- 21:50Speaker 2: Why he was there to heal, to get his legs healed.
- 21:54Speaker 2: But Jesus said, what your sins are forgiven you. There's
- 21:57Speaker 2: a powerful story that's telling you the miracle is not
- 22:00Speaker 2: more important than this salvation anyway.
- 22:04Speaker 3: Can you see the flaw in the logic.
- 22:06Speaker 2: If Jesus did all those things because it's God, then
- 22:08Speaker 2: we can all lie.
- 22:10Speaker 3: Now if this is the logic. See we don't.
- 22:13Speaker 2: If this is the logic, it's dangerous because we won't
- 22:15Speaker 2: just apply it to the miracles.
- 22:17Speaker 3: Oh, Jesus can walk on water. I cannot.
- 22:19Speaker 2: Yeah, sure I can accept that, but then you will
- 22:21Speaker 2: start going into I can't be as loerving as him.
- 22:24Speaker 2: There's no way he's god Ma. I can't serve others
- 22:28Speaker 2: like Jesus did. Impossible, he's Godma the fluit of the spirit.
- 22:33Speaker 2: At the most I can get five point five Lah,
- 22:36Speaker 2: I can't get all nine. Cannot be because I'm not
- 22:39Speaker 2: patient enough to get ahead.
- 22:42Speaker 3: See one down. You see selfhology.
- 22:47Speaker 2: So when we read the miracle stories of the Bible,
- 22:51Speaker 2: if like I'm proposing today, don't just read them as
- 22:55Speaker 2: proof and only prove that Jesus God.
- 22:58Speaker 3: How should we read them?
- 22:59Speaker 2: Then will read them how Jesus preached them.
- 23:03Speaker 3: There's another way of reading these stories.
- 23:08Speaker 2: So there's a theologian called tom Right or Anti Right
- 23:11Speaker 2: that describe it this way. When you see the gifts
- 23:14Speaker 2: of the spirit and the miraculeus, these are signs of
- 23:18Speaker 2: the inbreaking kingdom of God. Jesus said, the King of
- 23:24Speaker 2: God is here. I'm here to preach the kingdom. He
- 23:26Speaker 2: often thought the King of God is like he's obviously
- 23:30Speaker 2: trying to establish something.
- 23:32Speaker 3: What is the kingdom.
- 23:34Speaker 2: We often think of gospel as the part that brings
- 23:37Speaker 2: the forgiveness of sins, and of course that is part
- 23:40Speaker 2: of the idea. But Gospel is the announcement that everything
- 23:43Speaker 2: has changed in the coming of Jesus, and it leads
- 23:46Speaker 2: us to a new kind of living, new kingdom. So
- 23:51Speaker 2: there's a new king with new rules. It is a
- 23:55Speaker 2: Kingdom of God lifestyle with allegiance to a king as
- 23:59Speaker 2: the ultimate restorer. We are his workers to reflect that
- 24:02Speaker 2: good news and a new way of life in a
- 24:04Speaker 2: world that is seeking answers in profoundly short sighted ways
- 24:08Speaker 2: rather than in.
- 24:08Speaker 3: The way of Jesus.
- 24:11Speaker 2: So the Gospel, it's not just good news, it's a
- 24:15Speaker 2: new way of life. So these miracles designs another way
- 24:20Speaker 2: to read them, not just as ah, this.
- 24:22Speaker 3: Is just all this is just to prove the Jesus
- 24:24Speaker 3: is God.
- 24:24Speaker 2: It does, but it's more, and that it's signs of
- 24:27Speaker 2: the inbreaking of the King of God. There is a
- 24:30Speaker 2: kind of God. It's here through Jesus who live in
- 24:35Speaker 2: us and through us. So in other words, we're saying
- 24:38Speaker 2: this is what it looks like when the King of
- 24:40Speaker 2: God breaks into your world, your workplaces, your relationships, your marriages,
- 24:46Speaker 2: your schools, your sports team, your thought life, your emotional life,
- 24:51Speaker 2: your everything, when the King of God breaks in.
- 24:55Speaker 3: This is what it looks like. So again we must
- 24:58Speaker 3: be careful.
- 24:59Speaker 2: I'm not saying miracles don't prove that Jesus God, but
- 25:03Speaker 2: it can't just be the only way, because we've got
- 25:05Speaker 2: non Christians performing miracles. My own grandfather, I think you
- 25:11Speaker 2: can call him a miracle walker or worker.
- 25:13Speaker 3: He walked through walls. He's got knife.
- 25:20Speaker 2: People try to stab him in a knife and then
- 25:22Speaker 2: I will not go through his skin. He can make
- 25:25Speaker 2: money appear out of thin air. He's not God. Here's
- 25:28Speaker 2: my grandpa who accepted Christ minutes before he died. He's
- 25:34Speaker 2: not God. Neither am I saying therefore is not God
- 25:37Speaker 2: he is, and miracles cannot happen apart from God. I'm
- 25:43Speaker 2: just proposing, in the light of discipleship, in the light
- 25:47Speaker 2: of jess say follow me the things I do, you
- 25:50Speaker 2: will do also, and greater works will you do?
- 25:52Speaker 3: He said all these things, and what did he mean?
- 25:56Speaker 3: The inbreaking of the Kingdom of God.
- 25:58Speaker 2: We can be here like Jesus in our worldly office,
- 26:03Speaker 2: because the Kingdom of God can break into the office
- 26:06Speaker 2: through us and the Kingdom of God. It's not some
- 26:09Speaker 2: mumbo mumbo jumbos and spiritual stuff is a new way
- 26:14Speaker 2: of life. So it's kind of like it's kind of
- 26:18Speaker 2: like saying the light bulb Okay, imagine when the light
- 26:22Speaker 2: comes on in a room and we say, look, the
- 26:25Speaker 2: light bulb works. Yes, that will be correct. We look
- 26:30Speaker 2: at the light bulb. Depends on Oh, the light bob works.
- 26:32Speaker 2: It proves that the light bulb works. But doing that
- 26:35Speaker 2: would be missing a very big part of it because
- 26:39Speaker 2: it also means there's electricity coming through into the house.
- 26:45Speaker 2: There's power coming through you see. So when see Jesus miracles,
- 26:54Speaker 2: we are to think not just the light bulb works,
- 26:56Speaker 2: that this works. That's oh, there's power coming through the
- 27:00Speaker 2: said invisible power coming through.
- 27:02Speaker 3: Somebody say amen.
- 27:05Speaker 2: So when the Kingdom of God breaks into our world
- 27:08Speaker 2: through Jesus, which it has because Jesus coming to the world,
- 27:12Speaker 2: amen and invited us to follow him, it looks like
- 27:15Speaker 2: what it looks at, blind people seeing again, lameing people walking,
- 27:20Speaker 2: ostracized people being brought to the table and into community
- 27:26Speaker 2: the unlovable, loved, the loss found. That's what it looks like.
- 27:31Speaker 2: That's what the Kingdom of God looks like.
- 27:33Speaker 3: Amen.
- 27:35Speaker 2: So if we had to become and behave like Jesus,
- 27:38Speaker 2: we have to ask a question where did he get
- 27:40Speaker 2: his power?
- 27:40Speaker 3: The answer the Holy Spirit.
- 27:43Speaker 2: The Bible says Jesus was full of the Holy Spirit.
- 27:47Speaker 3: And that's what Paul says. We need to be continuously filled.
- 27:51Speaker 2: Being filled by the Holy Spirit is not like an
- 27:53Speaker 2: event in the past at a youth cam and the
- 27:55Speaker 2: no more, you don't pump petrol for your car and
- 27:59Speaker 2: then don't bump anymore?
- 28:00Speaker 3: Don't. We always said.
- 28:02Speaker 2: You feel any you get feel again and again. But
- 28:06Speaker 2: Jesus was full of the Holy Spirit. This is you
- 28:08Speaker 2: want to call it a secret, that's his secret.
- 28:10Speaker 3: This is the key.
- 28:11Speaker 2: He was full of the Holy Spirit. Right after this,
- 28:14Speaker 2: can you read yourself? You know what happened. He went
- 28:16Speaker 2: to the wilderness and got tempted, and overcame the temptation.
- 28:20Speaker 3: How do you come temptation? Full of the Holy Spirit? Amen?
- 28:23Speaker 3: So Jesus, Jesus was full of the Holy Spirit.
- 28:27Speaker 2: Therefore he was full of power, full of electricity, not
- 28:30Speaker 2: just the light bulb works electricity. Power is coming through
- 28:34Speaker 2: the power is the Holy Spirit, and the key facet
- 28:37Speaker 2: of the New Testament theology is that the same spirit
- 28:41Speaker 2: that was on Jesus to empower him to do all
- 28:44Speaker 2: of those wonderful, miraculous, powerful, loving things is now on
- 28:49Speaker 2: you and me. Jesus says, abiding me all these things
- 28:53Speaker 2: makes sense. I'm the vine of the branches of bodying me,
- 28:55Speaker 2: and I'm you. And then he talks about I will
- 28:58Speaker 2: send you another helper. I will send you another menak
- 29:03Speaker 2: now is on everyone who is a follower of the
- 29:07Speaker 2: way Jesus. If the spirit of Him who raised Sasm
- 29:11Speaker 2: from the day do us in you, He who raised
- 29:14Speaker 2: Christ Jesus from the dead, will also give life to
- 29:16Speaker 2: your mortal bodies through his spirit.
- 29:18Speaker 3: Who do us in you?
- 29:18Speaker 2: Now to Himho's able to do far more bandli than
- 29:21Speaker 2: all that we could ask, a thing according to the
- 29:22Speaker 2: power that at work within us as disciples. Since apprenticeship
- 29:31Speaker 2: slash discipleship is learning from the Master to become the
- 29:35Speaker 2: type of person that he is in order to say
- 29:38Speaker 2: and do the things he said and did. Then, as disciples,
- 29:42Speaker 2: we are to continue the works of Jesus on earth,
- 29:46Speaker 2: the works of Jesus, both in character fruit and in
- 29:53Speaker 2: acts and practices gives. That's why Jesus said, go therefore
- 29:57Speaker 2: and make disciples.
- 29:59Speaker 3: Go.
- 30:00Speaker 2: Oh you do, I help, My Holy Spirit helps you do.
- 30:05Speaker 2: I watch, and I say, well done, my good and
- 30:07Speaker 2: faithful servant. John fourteen twelve tru Literally, I say to you,
- 30:11Speaker 2: whoever believes in me will also do the works that
- 30:14Speaker 2: I do, And greater works than this will he do.
- 30:16Speaker 2: Because I'm going to the Father. Now this this creature
- 30:18Speaker 2: has been misquoted. Oh he just raised one person today,
- 30:21Speaker 2: I'll raise one hundred. Maybe it's not so much the
- 30:25Speaker 2: quality of what Jesus did, and then you can do
- 30:27Speaker 2: better because you can't do anything apart from him. But
- 30:32Speaker 2: it makes sense because technology is more advanced now, we
- 30:36Speaker 2: can reach more people now in minutes then they could
- 30:40Speaker 2: way back then. In that sense, we have no excuse.
- 30:44Speaker 2: We can do greater works. I mean we literally the
- 30:50Speaker 2: whole world experience a pandemic. If the pandemic happened a
- 30:55Speaker 2: long time ago, and I think the Church of God
- 30:59Speaker 2: would have been down.
- 31:00Speaker 3: We don't where to go.
- 31:02Speaker 2: But because the panemic happened in twenty twenty, oh, there
- 31:04Speaker 2: was this God, there was zoom I ran I and
- 31:08Speaker 2: a team ran a whole conference for nine hundred people
- 31:12Speaker 2: on discord. So we have the Gospel can advance much quicker,
- 31:20Speaker 2: much wider today than ever before. In that sense, we
- 31:23Speaker 2: can do greater works. But we have to do the
- 31:25Speaker 2: work everybody, all right, So, as disciples of Jesus, we
- 31:34Speaker 2: are to go and do likewise, do what This includes
- 31:38Speaker 2: both the fruit of the spirit as well as the
- 31:41Speaker 2: gifts of the spirit.
- 31:42Speaker 3: But here's the caution.
- 31:44Speaker 2: Here's the warning. Don't get too hung up on your success.
- 31:49Speaker 2: How many souls you say, how many years and eyes
- 31:53Speaker 2: you open? Sometimes we get too cup with the success.
- 31:58Speaker 3: So when you pray.
- 31:59Speaker 2: For or a headache and it doesn't go away, you
- 32:02Speaker 2: pray no more because, oh, it didn't work.
- 32:06Speaker 3: Maybe you're not holy enough.
- 32:07Speaker 2: Maybe I didn't read the Bible enough, maybe I didn't
- 32:09Speaker 2: wake up early enough. Ah, and all these excuses coming in.
- 32:12Speaker 2: And then you somehow subconsciously believe this idea that you
- 32:16Speaker 2: cannot be like Jesus, and subconsciously you're like Discipleship is
- 32:20Speaker 2: for those people and not me. Now, it's for everyone
- 32:23Speaker 2: who would believe.
- 32:26Speaker 3: You get there.
- 32:27Speaker 2: When you get too hung up on your success, here's
- 32:32Speaker 2: a fact.
- 32:34Speaker 3: The miraculous and.
- 32:35Speaker 2: The supernatural involves mystery and therefore disappointment too.
- 32:43Speaker 3: It is a mystery we often.
- 32:46Speaker 2: Get hung up, particularly when it comes to the more
- 32:48Speaker 2: miraculous gifts of administration. I can do because if I
- 32:51Speaker 2: put this in, this will come out. Yeah, I can
- 32:53Speaker 2: do that. But healing, prophecy, interprevision of tongues, what how
- 33:01Speaker 2: can when I pray they don't get h We get
- 33:04Speaker 2: to hung up on that. See, the thing is is
- 33:06Speaker 2: none of us are really sure how it all actually works. Yeah,
- 33:12Speaker 2: so he actually produces mystery, and sometimes it comes with disappointment.
- 33:17Speaker 2: I prayed and it didn't work. I prayed and it
- 33:21Speaker 2: got worse. Oh mine. All of that is very very real.
- 33:28Speaker 2: It must be acknowledged. But it also must be acknowledged
- 33:32Speaker 2: that every sign and wonders of the kingdom we don't
- 33:36Speaker 2: always know how it works. So mystery and disappointment is
- 33:42Speaker 2: part and puzzle of that.
- 33:44Speaker 3: Amen.
- 33:45Speaker 2: We may regularly share the gospel, just like Jesus did,
- 33:49Speaker 2: and sometimes people respond positively, and sometimes they don't. And
- 33:55Speaker 2: when when people respond positively, say I preach today and
- 33:58Speaker 2: fifty people say our received ges, you can't act And
- 34:03Speaker 2: some of you will say, maybe passed and he preached
- 34:07Speaker 2: really well today.
- 34:08Speaker 3: Well the message was on point. Well he has some
- 34:11Speaker 3: spiritual reason.
- 34:12Speaker 2: Man. Whatever you say, lah, but if you really sat
- 34:16Speaker 2: down and think about it, you can't actually tie the
- 34:19Speaker 2: result of those fifty hands went up to the message.
- 34:23Speaker 2: Because I can preach exact same message the exact same
- 34:25Speaker 2: way somewhere.
- 34:25Speaker 3: Else and no hands will go up. I know this
- 34:28Speaker 3: was I've done it before.
- 34:30Speaker 2: I've preached the exact same message, sometimes even better in
- 34:33Speaker 2: the second place, and no one got saved.
- 34:38Speaker 3: I will never forget this story.
- 34:39Speaker 2: There's a young chap, young little boy in a village
- 34:42Speaker 2: in Sarahwah who was taught to pray, and the only
- 34:46Speaker 2: prayer he was taught to pray is to say grace,
- 34:48Speaker 2: thank you Jesus for the food, blessed the food in
- 34:50Speaker 2: Jesius name.
- 34:51Speaker 3: Amen.
- 34:52Speaker 2: That's the only prayer he knows. There's the only prayer
- 34:54Speaker 2: he prayed. And so when his mom fell sick and
- 34:58Speaker 2: was just too far to get to the hospital, he's
- 35:00Speaker 2: too young to bring her there. Guess what, he laid
- 35:02Speaker 2: hands on her and thank you Jesus for the food
- 35:05Speaker 2: and bless the food and jails them.
- 35:07Speaker 3: Amen.
- 35:08Speaker 2: And how his mom got healed, and so it's mystery.
- 35:14Speaker 2: Can we just accept that? I think we can. If
- 35:18Speaker 2: it's not about you, does it matter if I pray
- 35:22Speaker 2: and one hundred people blind eyes open, and some of
- 35:25Speaker 2: us pray and it doesn't Who cares? It's not your glory.
- 35:28Speaker 2: It's not about you anyway. Yeah, we don't know when
- 35:35Speaker 2: God is choosing to work on someone externally expressed, like
- 35:40Speaker 2: God's God, God in his infidite with some things that
- 35:43Speaker 2: you know what, if I hear this persn't right now
- 35:44Speaker 2: is the best thing for him? And if in some
- 35:46Speaker 2: cases he wants to do it a different way, he
- 35:48Speaker 2: wants to form something within them.
- 35:51Speaker 3: Who has to build something in them? Character, patience? I
- 35:54Speaker 3: don't know. We don't know. Yes, God's prerogative. Amen.
- 35:58Speaker 2: It's kind of like make baking chocolate chip cookies. I
- 36:05Speaker 2: started in the pandemic, and I'm happy to announce to
- 36:08Speaker 2: you now four years later, I still haven't got it.
- 36:13Speaker 2: I'm trying to make the subway kind like the this
- 36:17Speaker 2: crunch outside and the soft in the inside.
- 36:19Speaker 3: How do I get it? There's tons of video on YouTube, everyone.
- 36:26Speaker 2: Claiming it's the best, it's the best, It's the best
- 36:29Speaker 2: guess what Mega church local Mega church even did this recipe?
- 36:38Speaker 3: Yes, I followed it. I thought this Christiane one sho
- 36:43Speaker 3: can work. It didn't work. Oh did I get ingredients wrong? No?
- 36:55Speaker 2: Flower, eggs, sugar, brown sugars, sometimes butter, Like what did
- 37:04Speaker 2: I get wrong?
- 37:06Speaker 3: Every ingredient was correct.
- 37:09Speaker 2: Sometimes we know the equation, like we know it's fly, butter, egg,
- 37:15Speaker 2: chocolate chap. We know the ingredients, but maybe we've got
- 37:18Speaker 2: the proportions wrong. But sometimes knowing the ingredients and the
- 37:23Speaker 2: proportions both and you still don't know how it actually works,
- 37:26Speaker 2: Like how does fly and ache? And how does these things?
- 37:29Speaker 2: When they come together, it becomes like how how does
- 37:31Speaker 2: it work? Nobody actually knows. It's a mystery. He works
- 37:38Speaker 2: on white ipo white coffee. Don't buy roll black one.
- 37:43Speaker 2: It only tastes that in the EPO. So I don't
- 37:46Speaker 2: know what they put in there. I know some limestone water,
- 37:49Speaker 2: some I don't know, like ipo drop, I don't know.
- 37:53Speaker 2: I've never tasted any iple wit coffee like I did
- 37:57Speaker 2: in Apol.
- 37:59Speaker 3: In that shop.
- 38:00Speaker 2: Maybe it's a sweat like it's a mystery. But friends,
- 38:07Speaker 2: we don't stop preaching the gospel. We don't stop praying,
- 38:13Speaker 2: and we don't stop loving. Let's not throw the baby
- 38:18Speaker 2: out with the bath water.
- 38:20Speaker 3: No. Now, this is.
- 38:21Speaker 2: Where the apprenticeship metaphor breaks down a little bit, because
- 38:25Speaker 2: if you're apprenticing under a mechanic to be like him,
- 38:27Speaker 2: he will teach you everything. You know everything, you just
- 38:30Speaker 2: need to get the right information and issued work. But
- 38:33Speaker 2: when it comes to spiritual stuff, that's a mystery. That's
- 38:37Speaker 2: the only difference.
- 38:37Speaker 3: Yeah, So.
- 38:41Speaker 2: Let me share with you now a three part framework
- 38:43Speaker 2: of behaving like Jesus, doing what he did, and this
- 38:48Speaker 2: and then. Now there's many different lessons out there. Other preachers,
- 38:54Speaker 2: teachers may frame it differently. That's okay. It's not like
- 38:57Speaker 2: someonere right and someonere wrong. It's just different ways of
- 38:59Speaker 2: thinking about it. I just found it is helpful because
- 39:00Speaker 2: I'm basing off the practicing, the way book and the
- 39:03Speaker 2: cost they were doing together. So I found it good
- 39:06Speaker 2: because it's based on the four Gospels. Looked at the
- 39:09Speaker 2: life of Jesus, looked at his example, and we go, okay,
- 39:13Speaker 2: there's three things that Jesus did that we can also
- 39:16Speaker 2: practice as disciples if we are to behave like him.
- 39:19Speaker 3: Amen.
- 39:20Speaker 2: So it's this three making space for the gospel, preaching
- 39:25Speaker 2: the gospel and demonstrating the gospel. So making space for
- 39:30Speaker 2: the gospel, what does this mean? Making space for the
- 39:32Speaker 2: gospel is cold. It's just code for hospitality. Someone was
- 39:37Speaker 2: saying hospitality as oh the ministry, right, they want to
- 39:41Speaker 2: prepares food.
- 39:43Speaker 3: Oh oh oh.
- 39:44Speaker 2: Sometimes football uses this world as well, like oh, your
- 39:47Speaker 2: ticket comes to hospitality or not? Is it just means like, oh,
- 39:50Speaker 2: you are VIP when you go to the stadium, they
- 39:52Speaker 2: take you to a separate room. It's air condition and
- 39:55Speaker 2: there's coffee and tea and stuff like that. Hospitality. So
- 40:01Speaker 2: I thought maybe I'll use other words. Making space for
- 40:06Speaker 2: a gospel is hospitality. Now I'll explain what that means.
- 40:09Speaker 2: But also basically, love your neighbor, love your neighbor, making
- 40:16Speaker 2: space for the gospel, or if you want to remember,
- 40:19Speaker 2: just one word is love. That's making space for the gospel.
- 40:23Speaker 2: We're not at preaching the gospel yet, we'll get there.
- 40:25Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about that talk. But making space.
- 40:31Speaker 3: Jesus.
- 40:33Speaker 2: One of the best examples that Jesus gave us of
- 40:37Speaker 2: making space for the gospel, of being hospitable, of loving
- 40:41Speaker 2: your neighbor and love is he was constantly having meals
- 40:45Speaker 2: with people. Of the seven deadly scenes that he could
- 40:51Speaker 2: be accused of, Jesus was not accused of last greed.
- 40:57Speaker 2: He was accused of gluttony because he ate so much. Yeah,
- 41:03Speaker 2: he was constantly. You know, there was this guy, Robert Carris.
- 41:07Speaker 2: He's a New Testament scholar. He's an expert on the
- 41:10Speaker 2: Gospel of Luke. He said this about Jesus. Jesus is
- 41:13Speaker 2: either on his way to a meal, add a meal,
- 41:16Speaker 2: or coming from a meal.
- 41:17Speaker 3: M When Jesus wanted to turn Jesus Zachi's.
- 41:23Speaker 2: Life around, He's like, I'm coming to your house to
- 41:27Speaker 2: have a meal. I mean, Jesus he was Asian as well.
- 41:33Speaker 2: I think I can relate. I think we can relate.
- 41:35Speaker 1: Right.
- 41:35Speaker 3: He ab with his hands. He did his bread in sauces. Yeah,
- 41:41Speaker 3: m hmm.
- 41:43Speaker 2: It's almost like if read the gospel, it's almost like
- 41:45Speaker 2: the whole gospel is about Jesus going from table to table,
- 41:49Speaker 2: meal to meal.
- 41:50Speaker 3: And it's interesting.
- 41:51Speaker 2: When Jesus was dealing with what we would call religious conservatives,
- 41:56Speaker 2: he would often use preaching like you will preach the Pharisees.
- 42:01Speaker 2: He was used preaching to call them into a deeper
- 42:03Speaker 2: kingdom life. But when he was dealing with text collectors,
- 42:07Speaker 2: sex workers, disabled persons, people who are exercised by society,
- 42:12Speaker 2: we don't have a lot of examples of them him
- 42:13Speaker 2: preaching to them. As the first step. He would normally
- 42:18Speaker 2: invite them to a table. And when I say table,
- 42:21Speaker 2: it can be literal table or as a concept that
- 42:25Speaker 2: means a place where conversation, life, love can happen amen
- 42:32Speaker 2: not a surface, not a preaching session, but a table.
- 42:40Speaker 2: And the same New Testament scholar Robert Carries he said
- 42:45Speaker 2: that wherever Jesus went, hm, wherever Jesus went, he was
- 42:54Speaker 2: always the host, not the guests. Even at Zaccheus's house.
- 43:00Speaker 2: It's not his house, but he behaved like the host. Now,
- 43:03Speaker 2: if you can take this example from Jesus and you
- 43:07Speaker 2: can live this way, I think you'll be wonderful.
- 43:09Speaker 3: That reason, when you walk into your office, you are
- 43:12Speaker 3: the host.
- 43:14Speaker 2: When you're at a coffee session with your friend, you
- 43:17Speaker 2: are the hosts, at least in mentality. You are there
- 43:19Speaker 2: because you have something they don't. You can offer and
- 43:24Speaker 2: serve something to them that they don't have. You are
- 43:27Speaker 2: the hosts. You don't have to be an extrovert to
- 43:29Speaker 2: be a host. When it comes to discipleship, you can
- 43:32Speaker 2: be an introvert and to be a host. A host
- 43:34Speaker 2: just means you are proactive. You're looking for opportunities to
- 43:38Speaker 2: serve somebody. You're looking at opportunities help to see How
- 43:42Speaker 2: can I mean a need? That means you can be
- 43:44Speaker 2: invited to someone else's house and they're hosting you. But
- 43:47Speaker 2: you can still be a host if you're a disciple,
- 43:49Speaker 2: If your mind is how can I serve you? How
- 43:51Speaker 2: can I bless you? What need can I meet? What
- 43:54Speaker 2: can I say to live you? Up?
- 43:55Speaker 3: You follow me so far?
- 43:56Speaker 2: So Jesus was constantly always the host, not the guests,
- 44:01Speaker 2: even when he's a guest.
- 44:03Speaker 3: Now why meals why?
- 44:05Speaker 2: Now I'm not saying behaving like just means just mycan,
- 44:08Speaker 2: although I'm also saying that it's a very good way.
- 44:12Speaker 2: But see it also symbolic meals meals meal is life
- 44:16Speaker 2: because food is life, meal life just doing life. Why
- 44:21Speaker 2: did Jesus when he was walking on earth, knowing that
- 44:23Speaker 2: all these things will be recorded in writing and thousands
- 44:26Speaker 2: just later people will be reading about it. And when
- 44:28Speaker 2: they read, they is reading about his savior having macan
- 44:32Speaker 2: Why because meals was deeply symbolic, especially in Jesus' day.
- 44:37Speaker 2: I think even today, especially in our culture, sociologists will
- 44:41Speaker 2: call them boundary markers. Boundary markers means where you eat dinner,
- 44:46Speaker 2: how much money you spend on your food, who you
- 44:49Speaker 2: eat dinner with. All of these things are like lines
- 44:52Speaker 2: of demarcation, like certain people won't eat at five star hotels,
- 44:58Speaker 2: and if you ate at a five star hotel, oh,
- 45:01Speaker 2: you must be so and so, such and such a person.
- 45:04Speaker 2: You get saying there's this idea, it's a way to
- 45:07Speaker 2: demarket people, like, oh, meals, how luxuriously you eat, like
- 45:13Speaker 2: if you went to China, for example, that they have
- 45:15Speaker 2: this idea of being having abundance, So they will always
- 45:20Speaker 2: almost always over order, Like if you finish all the
- 45:23Speaker 2: phone on the table, it's not good for them, it's
- 45:25Speaker 2: not a good look. The host will be embarrassed. You
- 45:27Speaker 2: must leave the table with lots of leftover someone's ago.
- 45:31Speaker 3: Such a waste.
- 45:31Speaker 2: They will go, Ah, I'm a good host because I
- 45:34Speaker 2: gave you abundance.
- 45:35Speaker 3: Meals.
- 45:36Speaker 2: Meals have a way of delineate people, delaying people. So
- 45:40Speaker 2: Jesus took that like he almost always does, and turn
- 45:44Speaker 2: it around and say, no, I'm not gonna use meals
- 45:47Speaker 2: to demarket. I'm gonna use meals not as an opportunity,
- 45:51Speaker 2: opportunity to keep people out, but to invite people in,
- 45:55Speaker 2: not as a boundary marker, but as an open welcome
- 45:58Speaker 2: of the Father's love, like I would have a meal
- 46:01Speaker 2: with a prostitute. No now, today, if you do it,
- 46:03Speaker 2: it's a different story. But when he did it, he
- 46:06Speaker 2: was trying to say, no more lines. My love is
- 46:11Speaker 2: for everyone, not for the Brahmins, not just for the
- 46:16Speaker 2: the white man, or the the Chinese Ouk or the
- 46:22Speaker 2: Indian jet there no, no, no, no, It's for everyone
- 46:26Speaker 2: and anyone who will come to me. So he he
- 46:29Speaker 2: chose the one thing that people used to different ship people.
- 46:32Speaker 2: He said, no, come, let's come to a table.
- 46:36Speaker 3: Amen.
- 46:37Speaker 2: So the table is where preaching the gospel can begin.
- 46:43Speaker 2: The table is where relationship. Now. I love church, and
- 46:47Speaker 2: I love that today is quite packed. It's wonderful. We
- 46:50Speaker 2: just have to put less chance that looks back. No, no, no,
- 46:55Speaker 2: it's it's really quite back today. This is great. But
- 47:00Speaker 2: please don't fool me and fool yourself. We're not building
- 47:02Speaker 2: relationship here. No one's getting more trusting just because you
- 47:06Speaker 2: said next to me, oh, bro, I trust you with
- 47:09Speaker 2: my life. Here's my here's my banking number. Oh why
- 47:11Speaker 2: you said that to me in church? I trust you?
- 47:13Speaker 3: No?
- 47:14Speaker 2: Please, come on, this is not where real relationship is
- 47:18Speaker 2: being actually being built. Doesn't doesn't make this not important.
- 47:22Speaker 3: It is.
- 47:26Speaker 2: But I like to propose something called table Christianity. We must,
- 47:30Speaker 2: like Jesus, take Christianity to the table, the one on one,
- 47:36Speaker 2: one on two threes four at the marcam place or
- 47:39Speaker 2: at running ten km and then after that banding and
- 47:44Speaker 2: then looking for breakfast, and then you sit down and
- 47:47Speaker 2: you talk about health, fitness and dying soon because your
- 47:50Speaker 2: heart is right, and then oh you're dying sooner? You
- 47:52Speaker 2: would have an insurance? A do you have insurance? But
- 47:57Speaker 2: if you're talking about oh, this one eternal one, you know,
- 48:01Speaker 2: it's it's just like just finding opportunities.
- 48:04Speaker 3: Table Christianity. Let me explain, Let me explain this way.
- 48:09Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you now before I tell you what
- 48:11Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you.
- 48:12Speaker 3: Both are important.
- 48:13Speaker 2: So basically, too much emphasis in Christianity on the temple.
- 48:21Speaker 2: This is the temple coming together, worshiping together a man.
- 48:27Speaker 2: It's important we need the temple. It's literally what just
- 48:29Speaker 2: means ecclesia, coming out of your homes and gathering in
- 48:33Speaker 2: a particular place. The Book of X talks about the
- 48:38Speaker 2: table house to house. This was literally the pandemic. Bro
- 48:43Speaker 2: There was no temple together in it was only table.
- 48:46Speaker 2: You were sitting at your table, wasn't you this one
- 48:49Speaker 2: on one? These meals, these chats, this life on life, this,
- 48:57Speaker 2: how are you doing? When I say being hospital roomin
- 49:00Speaker 2: go sign up and join a hospital hospitality team, I
- 49:05Speaker 2: mean that too.
- 49:05Speaker 3: We need help.
- 49:06Speaker 2: We sign up, but be hospitable. Meaning it's six fifteen.
- 49:14Speaker 2: Some has gone to church on thing already and hospitality
- 49:18Speaker 2: team already keep the coffee machine. Some people are keeping
- 49:23Speaker 2: the chairs covers. And there's a newcomer. And when I
- 49:28Speaker 2: say a newcomer doesn't mean it's first time, it's his
- 49:30Speaker 2: fifteen time in this shirt and still alone. And you
- 49:36Speaker 2: notice it. And then you have a choice because someone's
- 49:39Speaker 2: noticed the guy and say, no, La, not me, La,
- 49:43Speaker 2: I'm not friend li La, I mean introvert, La, I'm
- 49:46Speaker 2: the introvert introverts. But you notice you saw the guy
- 49:53Speaker 2: being hospitable. It's like, hey, man, you look like an introvert.
- 49:58Speaker 2: Yeah I am. Oh, you know, because I am one.
- 50:01Speaker 2: Can we both quietly go together thing and then do what?
- 50:05Speaker 2: We just sit together? I need to talk, You need
- 50:08Speaker 2: to eat, right, yeah, as we eat, eat together? Okay,
- 50:13Speaker 2: Then two intruts go to such a thing together, and
- 50:15Speaker 2: Eira and that guy will go home thinking, finally, finally
- 50:23Speaker 2: someone notices me. You mean there's other introverts in generations
- 50:27Speaker 2: just too. It's not hard, my friends, It's really not
- 50:31Speaker 2: that hard. You won't believe me, But I'm super shy, bro,
- 50:38Speaker 2: I am. I'm not shy here, but here you have
- 50:41Speaker 2: a camera on me. When I'm overseas attending some overseas conference.
- 50:45Speaker 2: You watch me. I hide, Bro, I go to the
- 50:51Speaker 2: toilet very long because I don't know how to talk
- 50:54Speaker 2: to other people, especially the.
- 50:56Speaker 3: Young man the American accent with me. I'm like, I
- 51:02Speaker 3: got toilet.
- 51:03Speaker 2: Really. One I was in a conference and it was
- 51:07Speaker 2: this There was this coffee room, this green room where
- 51:11Speaker 2: all the big names are there. I'm talking Rick Warren,
- 51:13Speaker 2: Niggy Gumble, I'm talking big names, Russell Evans, They're all there,
- 51:19Speaker 2: and I have the same tag.
- 51:22Speaker 3: I'm thinking to myself, man, this is my chance. To
- 51:25Speaker 3: go talk to them. This this this stuff with me. Wow, okay,
- 51:29Speaker 3: didn't get that. What did I do?
- 51:33Speaker 2: I went toilet and waited until the sessions start because
- 51:38Speaker 2: I'm shy, I really am.
- 51:43Speaker 3: But I want to be like Jesus.
- 51:46Speaker 2: So somebody needs somebody to just ask them a simple question.
- 51:52Speaker 3: Are you going for dinner? Just walk out?
- 51:54Speaker 2: It wasn't just like like I. I mean I would
- 51:57Speaker 2: literally read your introvert me too. Shall we quickly go
- 52:00Speaker 2: dinner together? Yeah, let's do it. You can see my car.
- 52:06Speaker 2: No one's gonna talk to you. Don't worry unless you
- 52:08Speaker 2: want to talk. And by the way, I've just said
- 52:11Speaker 2: the most post I've ever say in church. So you
- 52:14Speaker 2: better come something that I don't know. It's all you
- 52:18Speaker 2: are extroverts. Use that gift. So we must have the temple,
- 52:25Speaker 2: but we must also have the table, the congregation, but
- 52:30Speaker 2: also the community. What about the non official organic stuff?
- 52:36Speaker 2: That phone call that that? What's that message that? Hey,
- 52:40Speaker 2: I'm gonna buy some new shoes anyway, why don't you
- 52:42Speaker 2: follow me? You don't always have to know what will
- 52:48Speaker 2: actually happen. Sometimes I don't even know. Like this boy here,
- 52:52Speaker 2: I met him last year October No March. First day
- 52:56Speaker 2: we met, he made me buy soft drinks for every
- 52:59Speaker 2: one of his.
- 53:03Speaker 3: Six girls. That's how you get the girls, Ah, get
- 53:09Speaker 3: an adult to buy drinks for your friends.
- 53:11Speaker 2: Huh, never mind, never mind. Because of him, I make
- 53:14Speaker 2: seven friends. He said, can you wear me soft drink?
- 53:18Speaker 2: I'm like, oh sure. At the counter he said, can
- 53:20Speaker 2: you buy six more. On the very first day we met,
- 53:23Speaker 2: he told me about his mom. Asked about your family
- 53:26Speaker 2: and said, you share about your mom having brain cancer tumor.
- 53:30Speaker 2: So I'm so sorry to hear that. I started praying
- 53:33Speaker 2: for your mom since that day, and then once in a
- 53:35Speaker 2: while we'll check in. How's a mom doing, how's a
- 53:37Speaker 2: mom doing? How's a mom doing? The night before her
- 53:39Speaker 2: his mom passed away, and she stopped, he passed away.
- 53:41Speaker 2: She's in heaven now. But night before eleven something, he
- 53:45Speaker 2: texted me and said, please, can you pray for my mom?
- 53:47Speaker 2: She's having fever right now, leven something, Please pray for
- 53:50Speaker 2: my mom. She's having fever. She's not supposed to fever.
- 53:52Speaker 2: Can you please pray for her. I saw the message.
- 53:54Speaker 2: I said, I'll pray right now. I pray for her mom.
- 53:56Speaker 2: Then I fell asleep when I woke up in the morning.
- 53:59Speaker 2: There was two missco from him. Want something, do something.
- 54:04Speaker 2: I'm like, oh no, what happened? Call him back in
- 54:06Speaker 2: the morning. He said, my mom passed away. You were
- 54:10Speaker 2: the first person I called.
- 54:12Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know why. Maybe maybe my
- 54:14Speaker 3: name is A so it's the first person you call.
- 54:18Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 54:18Speaker 2: First you could have called somebody else first, you could
- 54:21Speaker 2: have called, but this, I don't know. I saw that
- 54:24Speaker 2: as a sign of we have relationship, and it was
- 54:27Speaker 2: literally formed at the table.
- 54:31Speaker 3: Till today.
- 54:32Speaker 2: Sorry to make money from me, buy me this, buy
- 54:35Speaker 2: me that by me this table Christianity, Amen, move from
- 54:40Speaker 2: people to the person. People are important. We need the church.
- 54:47Speaker 2: One day I'll preach about the church. It's important.
- 54:49Speaker 3: We need this.
- 54:50Speaker 2: Don't think that you can be a Christian on your own.
- 54:53Speaker 2: It's just by definition not possible. You can't love one another,
- 54:59Speaker 2: you can't love your in Christ if you don't actually
- 55:02Speaker 2: have a community.
- 55:03Speaker 3: Amen.
- 55:05Speaker 2: But let's move from just people. I want to be
- 55:07Speaker 2: a pastor. There's not just about people, but the person.
- 55:12Speaker 2: That's what Jesus did. He did both, didn't he Someone
- 55:16Speaker 2: on the mound and a woman at a well fed
- 55:19Speaker 2: the five thousand and then he heard up with his
- 55:21Speaker 2: sapple and say, you know why I do what I did?
- 55:23Speaker 2: You know why I fed them bread? Because yo, object lesson. Yo,
- 55:27Speaker 2: I'm the bray of life that break the air. They'll
- 55:30Speaker 2: be hungry again by me. You hunger no more object lesson.
- 55:34Speaker 2: With a small group, he did both. We should too.
- 55:38Speaker 2: So the first step will be heaving of Jesus. Let's
- 55:40Speaker 2: learn to make space for the gospel.
- 55:43Speaker 3: What does that mean?
- 55:44Speaker 2: Be hospitable, be warm, love your neighbor, even if your
- 55:49Speaker 2: neighbor is not like you.
- 55:53Speaker 3: You don't have to make it complicated. A man temple, to.
- 56:01Speaker 2: Congregation, to community, people, to the person. Can I encourage
- 56:08Speaker 2: you to do that? I tell you a quick story
- 56:10Speaker 2: and never close. I was involved in a movement before
- 56:13Speaker 2: her revolution. We challenge and inspire young people to start
- 56:18Speaker 2: prayer and action groups in their school. Because a lot
- 56:21Speaker 2: of Christians the prayer groups no action. So we challenge
- 56:24Speaker 2: them to pray, least in and obey. And so a
- 56:27Speaker 2: lot of miracles started happening in Kansas, being healed, sculosis
- 56:30Speaker 2: being healed. All kinds of wonderful things happened. One girl
- 56:33Speaker 2: in Subang went home crying because she prayed and nothing happened.
- 56:37Speaker 2: She is not an extrovert. She could not preach, teach,
- 56:40Speaker 2: and do stuff like that. She actually went back home
- 56:42Speaker 2: into a room crying because she felt so useless and inadequate.
- 56:48Speaker 2: As she was crying to God, God, I'm so useless.
- 56:51Speaker 2: I want to make a difference. Why I can't do
- 56:52Speaker 2: anything substantial? I'm not like them, she heard the voice
- 56:56Speaker 2: of the Holy Spirit say to her, look at your table.
- 56:59Speaker 2: She looked at the table, and the hostpead say what's
- 57:01Speaker 2: on your table? She said, stationary paper cards, spends stationaries?
- 57:06Speaker 2: Why God, God, why did they?
- 57:08Speaker 3: Oh?
- 57:08Speaker 2: I love making cards for people. Go to your table.
- 57:11Speaker 2: Make a card for your discipline teacher. Why disciplined teacher?
- 57:16Speaker 2: She needs it the most. The disciplined teacher is a
- 57:19Speaker 2: very fierce lady. She had a nickname called Tiger. And
- 57:22Speaker 2: she's very very fierce and very very notorious, and no
- 57:25Speaker 2: one likes her. She's like, why her. Go write a
- 57:28Speaker 2: thank you card, give it to her. She went to
- 57:30Speaker 2: a table, she did her thing, she decorated it, wrote it,
- 57:33Speaker 2: wrote a message, said thank you. She said, okay, God,
- 57:35Speaker 2: I'm done, And Scot says, you're not done. Please put
- 57:38Speaker 2: at the bottom of the cart Jesus loves you.
- 57:41Speaker 3: She said, what, my disciplined teacher, what gouse?
- 57:47Speaker 2: She needs to hear it, So she wrote that Jesus
- 57:49Speaker 2: loves you. She went to the school the next day,
- 57:52Speaker 2: praying that the teacher will sick and not show up.
- 57:56Speaker 2: She waited to recess time, went to the teacher's room,
- 57:59Speaker 2: hoping that they'll she won't be there. Lo and behold,
- 58:02Speaker 2: she was the only teacher there. She walked up to
- 58:05Speaker 2: the desk and said, teacher. She said, what, I have
- 58:09Speaker 2: something for you?
- 58:09Speaker 3: What is it? I have a card for you. What
- 58:12Speaker 3: is it?
- 58:12Speaker 2: It's a tank you card, teacher, you can read it.
- 58:15Speaker 2: The teacher opened her card. She read the message. She
- 58:17Speaker 2: got to the bottom. She started tearing. This teacher who's
- 58:21Speaker 2: not a Christian, who's called the tiger. She's tearing, and
- 58:25Speaker 2: the girl panics, like, teacher, what happened?
- 58:27Speaker 3: Why? I'm also panicking the let's just gone out?
- 58:31Speaker 2: Teacher. Why are you crying? She said, no, no, you don't.
- 58:34Speaker 2: I said, yeah, I don't understand. The teacher said, sit down, okay,
- 58:38Speaker 2: who's sit down?
- 58:39Speaker 3: What's up? Teacher? She said, I don't know who you are.
- 58:42Speaker 3: I don't know why you know so much about me.
- 58:44Speaker 2: Thirty minutes ago before you came in, a teacher walked
- 58:47Speaker 2: into this room and told me the xact same three words.
- 58:49Speaker 2: She said, Jesus loves you. And now here you here
- 58:52Speaker 2: you are with your card. And he said, Jesus loves you.
- 58:54Speaker 2: Who's this Jesus? Can you tell me more about him?
- 58:59Speaker 2: And this now is preaching to this teacher. And then
- 59:04Speaker 2: this girl prayed for the teacher that you didn't get
- 59:08Speaker 2: saved that day, but the gospel was preached. The President
- 59:11Speaker 2: of God was there. What did the girl do? She
- 59:15Speaker 2: just did her thing. She's a card maker, stationary on
- 59:19Speaker 2: the table. What's your thing?
- 59:22Speaker 3: What if you.
- 59:23Speaker 2: Became the host? Not dominic conversation, That's not what I mean.
- 59:28Speaker 2: Just have a hosting spirit. I'm here to serf. I'm
- 59:34Speaker 2: here to serf. I've got something many of you in
- 59:37Speaker 2: this circle don't. I'm gonna find ways to share that
- 59:43Speaker 2: to offer that.
- 59:44Speaker 3: Amen.
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