Latest / Boundary Corner Podcast / Hokies Douse the Flames
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- 0:45And welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast, back with my
- 0:50partner back from Orlando mr. Searcy glad I am Curtis Wilson
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- 1:29Curtis and Brian. Sent you buddy and grab a stick
- 1:32back. What about back?
- 1:34We're back, we're back. How is Orlando?
- 1:38First of all, it was pretty awesome, dude, it was pretty
- 1:41awesome. We had a good time.
- 1:43We were there? Are for a week when you guys
- 1:47were we're on live. Last week, we were coming back
- 1:49from from MGM, where the or Hollywood Studios whatever it
- 1:54was we were heading to the parking lot.
- 1:57When you guys went live got to jump in and watch a little bit
- 2:03on the trip, back to the house so it was pretty cool being on
- 2:06the other side of things they're actually it's pretty funny,
- 2:09Brian was texting like, all right, get on a plane, won't be
- 2:12able to see the game for Next hour, then you're popping up and
- 2:16you're like back I'm back, I'm back, I'm back.
- 2:19I'm watching the game again. But yeah, so we had a connecting
- 2:22flight. We went we went to from Richmond
- 2:24to Charlotte and then Charlotte Orlando.
- 2:26So I was like all right I gotta kind of work work as much as I
- 2:30can pull up my phone watch a little bit here, watch a little
- 2:33bit there, I got to see all of the real-time got to see all of
- 2:38the all of the first and all the fourth and kind of spots here
- 2:42and there the Second and third. Nice.
- 2:45Well, let's talk about that. But before we talk about the
- 2:49upset of Liberty, the 2322 win, obviously, you know, on our
- 2:54minds and our thoughts, all the UVA tribute switch for both
- 2:58schools, give them massive Kudos, give kudos around the
- 3:02country. I mean, when Liberty said they
- 3:05were going with their Blue Tech, pivoted hard, you could tell
- 3:10there was no names on the back of jerseys the Rolled out which
- 3:16tally I'm sure is going to have conversations with us in about a
- 3:19month about wearing orange. We were good in orange, but that
- 3:24was awesome to see the blue and the orange there.
- 3:27The helmet stick, we're undefeated in all orange.
- 3:30Since since Beamer, right, I'd have to go look at that.
- 3:35Where's Clark? Where's Clarke ruling that.
- 3:37Clark. If you're listening tonight, pop
- 3:39us a message about the record in Orange because I know, Clark
- 3:41would know the helmet stickers. Were awesome too again from
- 3:45across the country but I think the one that got me and you
- 3:50Brian the most was what the football staff and Coach
- 3:54practice with fontelle Minds. Yeah, that was big like really
- 4:01great gesture. Really good for font.
- 4:03Oh, I know that was probably meant a lot to him.
- 4:08To be there and to be able to do that.
- 4:12You know, out front in front of everybody.
- 4:14I think that was that was a really good gesture and I know
- 4:17I'm sure he appreciates it. Really?
- 4:20Yeah, I mean, he was up there with the three players with
- 4:23Coach pry, leading them out, onto the field with the UVA
- 4:26saber flag. It was just really cool to see
- 4:29and all that, you know, you know, these guys were playing
- 4:33with both schools, both schools, you playing now with on the back
- 4:37of your mind. You know, Lynchburg is an hour
- 4:40Charlottesville roughly two hours and it's not like these
- 4:44schools are, you know, six hours apart there up the road?
- 4:48Yeah, a lot of these guys played with each other so I'll give
- 4:52that play with each other in high school play with you.
- 4:54Each other colonists each other in high school so I mean yeah
- 4:58there's there's still a Brotherhood across these these
- 5:01teams in the Commonwealth. Absolutely.
- 5:04Well Brian, let's say this, it's finally good to be wrong.
- 5:07It is first time in a while man. First time in a while we have
- 5:12been wrong on picking against the Hokies and you know, we love
- 5:15to see it. And, you know, let's jump right
- 5:17into it. Let's talk about the side of the
- 5:19ball. That may be played its best
- 5:22game, and that's the offense and, you know, especially the
- 5:26Run game. If you take out Grant Wells, got
- 5:29sacked, 6-times not good, you know, somewhere on him somewhere
- 5:33on the old line, but if you take out all of his sacks, Hence, the
- 5:38net. The Hokies ran the ball over.
- 5:42That 4.7 a care? Yeah.
- 5:44I joked with Brian. Brian.
- 5:45If we were in 4.7 and carry, what would I record be all year?
- 5:49And you're like, seven wins, maybe a twin like at least at
- 5:55least six. I mean, Middle East, I'm going
- 5:58high in there and I mean it was obviously by Jaylon Holston 99
- 6:03yards, three touchdowns career day for him.
- 6:08What did you see? I know you looked at a little
- 6:10extra tape, you know, the last couple days, what was it
- 6:14different about? He looked different Saturday,
- 6:18just watching him live and I know you've looked a little bit
- 6:20deeper at the tape than I've had a chance to.
- 6:24I mean, it helps with the holes were a little bit bigger than
- 6:26they've been for them all year. So that was, that was
- 6:30beneficial. We were moving somebody's a
- 6:32little bit more not necessarily get into the second level.
- 6:35Like, I'd like to see, but we Were able to move the guys on
- 6:39the defensive line a lot better than we have for most of the
- 6:42season. And that enabled Holston to kind
- 6:45of get those, you know, three to five yard chunks.
- 6:49Instead of those one 22-yard chunks we've been seeing from
- 6:51him for most of the Season, 100%, And then Keshawn, King and
- 6:56is sort of spell backup change of pace roll 11 478.
- 7:00I mean, he came in and exploded, not only with that.
- 7:05Also had a big pass play. We'll talk about, but I was
- 7:07looking Back and I was going through the data in the stats
- 7:10after the game and I think the big key here inviting you kind
- 7:13of mentioned it. We're gonna talk about the
- 7:14offensive line a few minutes here but those two guys had a
- 7:18combined - 2 yards in the net. That's huge because it tells
- 7:26when I talk to you about it, it tells told you that basically
- 7:31there was no penetration on the defensive side of the ball or if
- 7:36it was it was at the line of scrimmage.
- 7:37It was not in the backfield. Exactly.
- 7:42Yeah, a lot not a lot of negative plays in this one and
- 7:45that's really big for a team that's struggling offensively.
- 7:50If we're not backing up, but whether it's the - plays that
- 7:55were allowing or if it's those unforced errors, if we're not
- 7:58backing up a lot, you're going to have a lot more success.
- 8:01You have a lot more sustained drives, you're going to be able
- 8:03to keep your offense on the field more.
- 8:07And that that was big for us. Because I mean, when we look at
- 8:10the like time of possession and plays ran and stuff like that,
- 8:13this is one of our better games in those two metrics all year.
- 8:18Yeah, it seemed like we were just going forward.
- 8:21The guys were always going forward falling forward where I
- 8:25feel like that's such a big key in this thing, Ron.
- 8:32I know. Yeah, he's smiling.
- 8:34He's all about the offensive line.
- 8:36Definitely probably the best Run game of the season without a
- 8:42doubt tease him a question. I know you mentioned me right 41
- 8:47on you said this the last couple games might have been Parker
- 8:49Clements best games. He's definitely from where he
- 8:53was. I mean it's slow.
- 8:55It's like if you're not beating we're not beating the world here
- 8:58but it's embedded. And what we're we're getting
- 9:02back to where we. I think we expected him to be
- 9:04and I think it goes Those good evening Levar.
- 9:08How you doing tonight? It goes back to I was telling
- 9:10you it's like it's the muscle memory thing Robbie talked about
- 9:13last week, right? Is it finally kicking in what
- 9:16Rudolph and went. Bowling want him to do it.
- 9:18Finally is it finally connecting in his body?
- 9:22Like you know you've told me before is you're supposed to
- 9:25take this step in this scheme and is it finally he's taking
- 9:30the right steps and things like that will be talked about it and
- 9:33we know when we talked about the the jumping off sides thing.
- 9:36And, you know, we said that a lot of that is you thinking too
- 9:40much up here, about what you're going to do and how you going to
- 9:44do it and how you need to get a step and all this other stuff.
- 9:46If you're trusting your Technique, if you feel like you,
- 9:50you know how the play is going to go, what your responsibility
- 9:54is and you're not thinking also about a whole lot of shit
- 9:57pre-snap. It's going to be a lot easier
- 10:00for you to execute Abso-freakin'-lutely.
- 10:04Now for one guy, especially in the Run game, to be his first
- 10:08time on the college field. We saw Xavier chaplain for the
- 10:11first time playing left tackle. Now every time he did have
- 10:17Solace at guard so he had you know that that old friend that
- 10:20we know Silas was always going to be better at guard.
- 10:23But when you got a chance to not, look at not only looking at
- 10:27it live. When you saw big number 65 come
- 10:29in, but when you get to look at the tape, what was he doing?
- 10:32Where it's like, first of all? Holy shit.
- 10:35He's a freshman. And we saved his red shirt.
- 10:39Yeah, we saved his red shirt. He's out there.
- 10:41Moving bodies in the Run game. Pretty consistently.
- 10:45And I would say I mean from a from a run game perspective,
- 10:50probably the best blocking from a left.
- 10:53Tackle, we've had for the year for the plays that he was in
- 10:56there. We obviously saw that he had a
- 10:58couple, couple plays here and there that weren't great,
- 11:02especially in the past game. But I really liked what I saw
- 11:06from him in the Run game for this for the snaps that he was
- 11:10in there and he did get kind of abused on the the the sack for a
- 11:14safety. There were a couple times he got
- 11:16Darrell Robinson, who is their best defensive end and he is a
- 11:21guy you can see with some of the moves he made some big plays
- 11:24Saturday for Liberty. There were a couple times he got
- 11:29a hold of him and Robinson's like a super senior.
- 11:33So he's 21. 22 years old. He's a full grown man.
- 11:37And I he just just like, yeah, you're nothing locked him in, he
- 11:44washed him out. Yeah yeah just a dim hammered.
- 11:47And um now there were quite a few sacks.
- 11:50I think the total was six. Yeah, six total sacks, just
- 11:56looking at it, they weren't all on the line.
- 11:58There were a couple times where Grant Wells was I don't know
- 12:03what he was doing. I'd say at least two were on
- 12:06Wells, okay? Because I mean there were a
- 12:10couple where he took the sack and when he could have easily
- 12:14just gotten rid of the football. and then there was one where you
- 12:19want him to take the sack so that that's kind of If it's not
- 12:24there, you'd rather take the sack throw it away.
- 12:26So, the clock keeps moving. Yeah.
- 12:29So again not all on them and I know you said you saw it from
- 12:34Kaplan, but challenge, a true freshman first time ever
- 12:38playing. Yeah.
- 12:39And so that is what it is and I know you had a beef with him
- 12:44being in that situation close around the goal line.
- 12:47I did not like that. Yeah, I did.
- 12:49Ya ever hear the text is like it was like we were at the fire.
- 12:53I've and it's just like, I wouldn't put him in here and
- 12:57they did. But, you know, it in the end, it
- 13:01didn't kill us, he came close with a one-point game, give it a
- 13:05safety and close, but I think if anything with helmets now look
- 13:10what they did to you, how do you counter when they do this again,
- 13:15it's on film. And the thing that me and you
- 13:17have talked about all year for certain guys, getting it live,
- 13:22seeing the game speed. Moment didn't seem too big for
- 13:24him and the stuff that he struggled with his stuff that
- 13:28can be cleaned up, and it's probably attributed to being a
- 13:30guy who's 18 years old. Yeah, and I think the the, the
- 13:34big thing when you text me, I was like, all right I haven't
- 13:37been watching. Yeah, I at that point.
- 13:40I just watched the third quarter over the first quarter.
- 13:44I'd been kind of flipping in here.
- 13:46I was like, how much is he you know, guidance snap wise up to
- 13:49this point. You're like he's played a lot.
- 13:51I was like, all right, then if he's if it's his time to go in
- 13:54and says time to go in, you did say.
- 13:58That's just how it is. If you're getting a guy.
- 14:02Used to game Speed game situations.
- 14:06Then you're going to put him in there.
- 14:09You see what he can do. See what you got, 100%, 100%.
- 14:14All right. Rob Ryan before we move over to
- 14:16the pass game, let's just because it's the night before
- 14:19Thanksgiving. This is what I'm drinking on
- 14:22tonight, a little smooth, Ambler contradiction whiskey. 92 proof
- 14:28will Whiskey and Water over here for me.
- 14:30What are you drinking on? I got a little little whiskey
- 14:35and ginger. Whiskey and gin you.
- 14:40I got a beer in the hole in the hole.
- 14:42I'm just going to take another one of them.
- 14:44When I'm done with that one, do do do share of what you're
- 14:47drinking on the night. If you're listening out there,
- 14:50all right, pass game, Brian. If I told you last Tuesday,
- 14:54Kayla Smith is going to have one catch for five yards.
- 14:57Did you think this would be a win for the Hokies?
- 15:00I would have said yeah, we losing that one.
- 15:03Ain't no way that we're going to pull it out.
- 15:05If Caleb's getting one, catch for five yards because to me,
- 15:11that sounds like, we're not doing a whole lot at through the
- 15:13air. And we didn't do a whole lot
- 15:15through the air, but we did a lot more than I would have
- 15:17expected. Given this myth had one catch
- 15:19for five yards, well, we were fishing through the air, I mean,
- 15:23granted not turn the ball over. We didn't have any turnovers all
- 15:26day. You know he threw for 70%.
- 15:29He did take some. Taxi through for 70% though. 14
- 15:33to 20, but of those 14 completions 10 were either too
- 15:36tight ends are running backs. So, you know, and I know some of
- 15:41the plays were big, they were little check towns.
- 15:45Like I mean, Gallo had that flat pass where they just kind of
- 15:47forgot about him and he made them.
- 15:48Absolutely hey. And then, you know your boy your
- 15:54boy, your boy played a little bit more, there are sometimes
- 15:57where Gallo was not on the field with Daquan right here.
- 16:00By himself out there and he popped a big play as well.
- 16:03Yeah, yeah, we saw Little Mix here and there with the tight
- 16:07ends, good to see right, kind of, get back into the game,
- 16:10playing there after kind of being somewhat absent, the
- 16:15previous, two games, get him back involved in the offense
- 16:22Gallo kind of getting lost on a couple plays, they lose him,
- 16:26he's able to get upfield, get some good yardage and then we
- 16:30Had kind of strategic first down, catch has moved like stick
- 16:35movers from from Blue and Loft and respectively.
- 16:39So I mean that was kind of a little bit everybody working in
- 16:41there. Yeah, you know, and kind of took
- 16:45up some of the slack that we had from from Caleb.
- 16:49Not having a lot of targets, not because he wasn't targeted.
- 16:53Very much either, wasn't, it wasn't just that, you know, he
- 16:56only had one catch of five yards, he didn't have a ton of
- 16:58targets He didn't have a ton of targets at all and you know you
- 17:04talked about the little short stick movers.
- 17:06Jaden blue had one of those Lofton.
- 17:10Keshawn King had quite a few check towns along.
- 17:13Had a couple check Downs along with the big play and we had
- 17:17three really explosive plays in each of those three explosive
- 17:21plays to help set up things for us.
- 17:24I'll tell you what king does so. Well, in the passing game is
- 17:26that he catches those little those little Drop downs, or
- 17:30there's a little quick swings and he's got that, like just a
- 17:36little extra gear that the linebacker or the safety.
- 17:41Think they have an angle on it and they don't.
- 17:43And next thing, you know what looks like a 23-yard game ends
- 17:46up being a first down or 25 yards down.
- 17:50Even if everybody plays that angles.
- 17:53Um, there were a couple passes though that Wells didn't miss.
- 17:56That could have been big, but they were just a hair late and
- 17:59again. And seeing the things we're
- 18:01seeing where, you know, he kind of is what he is couple big to
- 18:07me to the biggest stats was the third and fourth down
- 18:09conversions Hokies 9 of 20 1343 on forth on that right at 50%
- 18:17all I'll take that every day. I'll take that every day between
- 18:20third and fourth down, you can be right at 50%.
- 18:23And how about in the red zone? We have four opportunity or
- 18:28excuse me, five opportunities because at the end there, but
- 18:33they punched it in three times and in a punch it in when it
- 18:37mattered, they did take a couple risks and everything but those
- 18:42stats we talked about it kind of all year, right?
- 18:45We've talked about it a lot, we talked about the Run game.
- 18:48We've talked about third down, we've talked about Red Zone,
- 18:51efficiency, for the first time, all year Everything was on the
- 18:59right side. Yeah, yeah.
- 19:01We finally kind of put, you know, we talked about Keys every
- 19:04week, right? Yes, we do.
- 19:07And usually we're good for about, you know, we usually have
- 19:11two or three on each side of the football and maybe we hit one of
- 19:15those on each side of the football, maybe two on the
- 19:18defensive side. We finally got the offense where
- 19:22they were hitting about two or three of the of the keys.
- 19:25They were actually okay. Okay, check you actually check
- 19:29them off here. Yeah, in the thing is, I don't
- 19:32even talk about those keys. I didn't I didn't because I had
- 19:37preached them all year and I'm like, I'm changing this up.
- 19:39The keys were tackles for loss on them and US.
- 19:42Yeah, they did their thing, but we match them in the tackles for
- 19:46loss in the sacks category, you know.
- 19:48Yep. You know, and the thing is a
- 19:50couple of our sites, we had five twelve total, tackles for loss,
- 19:55five sacks, a couple of our sacks.
- 19:59The one thing I said, I said we have to win the turnovers.
- 20:01This is a team that turns the ball over.
- 20:03If we can get turnovers we got to one led to a touchdown the
- 20:09other red, the game out. Yep.
- 20:11Kudos on the defense, which we'll talk about a little while.
- 20:13Special teams was more of a was the stock market though.
- 20:17There were some high highs and there were some ugly lows
- 20:20big-time big-time man. So you buy you open it up.
- 20:24We got a trick play. I mean we finally we finally
- 20:28see. Okay, we get up.
- 20:29We get a fake punt there, which was no fake field goal.
- 20:34Oh, sorry. Thank you.
- 20:36Little freshman, John love running for his life, gets a
- 20:39first but it was hey, held onto the ball though.
- 20:43You know, love that because that was a big hit and the ball that
- 20:48was a hit, but the perfect little option there.
- 20:51Peter more, the last couple weeks has looked more
- 20:55consistently like Peter Moore. Yeah, we've talked about there
- 20:58some games where he starts out booming and then he looks like
- 21:02crap for a while. Then he gets back this game.
- 21:05He looked good. I mean, - 98 yards because the
- 21:09Mario decided to try to feel that punt, which he should not
- 21:12have, but there were some issues in the in the kick return game.
- 21:18I mean, we gave up a touchdown in the kick return to shit.
- 21:21Joe, Louis a guy who had been out and we gave up some other
- 21:26big ones, you know, tomorrow. Go ahead, 37 yard kick return.
- 21:29So it wasn't Perfect by any means, but I guess you can say,
- 21:35I guess special teams offset. Yeah.
- 21:38It probably like, probably a net zero here but you know, you hate
- 21:42it on the, you know, the side of things where you allow a
- 21:46touchdown on a kickoff. And some of that is complacency,
- 21:50I think we get used to guys, kicking a deep, guys, not bring
- 21:54it out of the end zone. And next thing, you know, You
- 21:57know, you're not taking you not where you need to be true.
- 22:02So very true and I think probably, we saw probably more
- 22:06returns out of the end zone in this game than we've seen for
- 22:10most of the year. And I think it may be mentality.
- 22:15Why is it just? They weren't ready to have to
- 22:18cover that many kicks, which is, it's a wild thing to say, but
- 22:22yeah, it's true. But all in all that kind of
- 22:26washed out. Now, let's flip the defense
- 22:29because this defense surrendered 13 points to a team averaging
- 22:3530. Yes, it does say 22.
- 22:38I don't count special teams and obviously, I Safety opted for a
- 22:43strictly. Look at what the defense gave
- 22:44up. They gave up 13 points on the
- 22:47team that's averaging 30. They gave up 332.
- 22:51Total yards, which is almost 100 yards less.
- 22:54And when you take a look at a one point game, every yard
- 22:57matters, 50 yards here. There could have been the
- 23:00difference where the Hokies are on the L.
- 23:03But Brian, I think the thing that maybe we had said it needs
- 23:07to happen and it did From process after the game, Chris
- 23:11more of calls the game. And I think you noticed some
- 23:14stuff about problem to sideline, when you heard about it, you
- 23:18kind of again, I didn't, I'm trying to watch the game, but
- 23:21also have kids running around the house, but you said, you
- 23:25notice something about Brent Pride while you were watching
- 23:27the game that you hadn't seen previous.
- 23:31I mean you look more engaged with what was going on on the
- 23:34especially on the offensive side but also with, with the defense,
- 23:39being able to understand the situation little bit more, I
- 23:42think you saw that, you know, with the fake field goal.
- 23:47I mean you saw that with how we kind of close the game out, both
- 23:51on the defensive side, on the offensive side, it just look
- 23:54like we were more put together and organized in those moments
- 23:59that matter. Now, let me ask this, you
- 24:04watched parts of the game live. I know you've looked at some
- 24:07tape, any noticeable differences on the wait.
- 24:11Chris Marv called the game, from, what you've seen with the
- 24:14tape of print prop. I saw a little bit more cover
- 24:19to, than we had seen with prior recently.
- 24:24I saw more consistent aggressiveness and I think we
- 24:29saw a little bit more of a mix and match with some Personnel
- 24:34that we hadn't seen with prai. And I think some of those things
- 24:40ended up paying off for us. And we'll talk about a little
- 24:44bit of that here we especially when we get to the line backing
- 24:46unit lately. Well, let me ask this.
- 24:50When you say we saw a lot more cover to is it just the scheme
- 24:54we're playing? Or is do you think this is more
- 24:56philosophical thing with more where I know like what's for
- 25:03those out there? Because you've explained it to
- 25:04me, but explain what a cover to does for your defense and what
- 25:08it allows all the position groups to do.
- 25:12So in particular, I mean we let our defensive line kind of eat a
- 25:16little bit more. We were a little bit more
- 25:18attacking with the linebackers particularly with the will we've
- 25:22Ben. Splits in a lot with Sam, we
- 25:25Blitz a little bit more with will this week and I think some
- 25:28of that paid off, okay. With the way we were rolling
- 25:31coverages in that cover to how did Shamari look?
- 25:36It did some like ban under when we did those we did to ban under
- 25:40when we did say. Okay, let's just Okay.
- 25:42So we were sort of attempting to if they were going to run Zone
- 25:47Blitz sometimes it was, it was it was a tuba Kinder.
- 25:49Look okay got it, got it. All right.
- 25:51Well let's talk about those position groups and I know we
- 25:54want to hit the linebackers but I want to hit them second
- 25:56because I feel like Robbie kind of called out the D line last
- 25:59week. I don't know if any of them
- 26:00listen, but they answered because they had their best day
- 26:03of the year. Especially Taiwan garbett six,
- 26:07tackles three tackles for loss, two sacks.
- 26:10He forced the gain clarity, Teaching fumble there.
- 26:14I mean he'll he had been banged up for the last month he look
- 26:18healthy and he look, you know like Taiwan we expect it all
- 26:21year? Yeah, he was firing off the
- 26:23ball. There was one when I was looking
- 26:26at the tape later. It was a Sac that he got and
- 26:31this was Showing that he was the where he needed to be physically
- 26:37because he kind of had ran out of the play got blocked and
- 26:43quarterback was stepping up about to take off to run, and he
- 26:46covered covered ground so quick and just got him to the ground.
- 26:51One where I was looking at was like, yeah, he's we're about to
- 26:54see a first down run here and it all of a sudden he closes the
- 26:57Gap and brings him down for like a one or two yard sag.
- 27:01And I was like, oh okay, that that's a little different And we
- 27:04haven't seen that in a few weeks.
- 27:07That's that's also awesome to hear about that.
- 27:11Now, let's also talk about the inside guys, because a couple of
- 27:13those guys had some good games and we saw a young face we'd see
- 27:17no earlier. Tyler gets sad Kendrick is to
- 27:21tackle all salt Kendrick had a few balls down and we saw moist
- 27:25and get some more run, including a tackle for loss, Kendra's best
- 27:30game by far the whole season. Okay, okay, and he's been
- 27:33playing good. He been playing.
- 27:35He'd been getting a lot of mentions but again, is it that
- 27:38covered too? And the cover to man underwear?
- 27:40It's like, listen, we've got the two safeties back if something's
- 27:45given up underneath, it's okay. Go attack and we were planning
- 27:51on playing around with that coverage to.
- 27:53And I think that let them, I think they, we were twisting a
- 27:56lot more to front and that gave them a little bit more
- 28:00opportunity in the, in the past Rush game to kind of create some
- 28:04confusion, get the hands up, make some plays there.
- 28:09Nice. So, again, defensive line, you
- 28:12know, again looked really good against Liberty.
- 28:16Now, let's go to the linebacker room because this is the one
- 28:18that kind of, maybe we saw some foreshadowing to 2023 for the
- 28:23Hokies. Now, first of all, give kudos to
- 28:25Dax Dax, felt like the normal, that's per batch production, you
- 28:30know, six tackles, he had a sack, he had a tackle and a half
- 28:33or loss. But then you look at kill
- 28:36Alison. Second on the team.
- 28:40In tackles with five, he had a sack, he had two tackles for
- 28:46loss. He had a fumble recovery when I
- 28:50saw that fumble recovery where he was located.
- 28:52I said, Brian, I can't really see it on a live film.
- 28:55Where is he playing? So, where was he aligned a lot
- 28:58of the day Brian. Most of the time he was a will,
- 29:03which we hadn't really seen him play.
- 29:04Way in about a month. Yeah, he's supposed to be kind
- 29:07of rotating. And it's am the last four games.
- 29:11He was playing a lot of Will and and doing a lot of big things
- 29:14they're probably definitely had his best game playing will of
- 29:18the Season. He looked like the moment was
- 29:21never too big for him. He was only you know really out
- 29:24of position out of out of the spot a handful of times in the
- 29:29game. He was really active rushing,
- 29:33the passer and he did a good job in coverage.
- 29:39That's awesome to hear because I say foreshadowing, because if
- 29:41he's playing well, Tisdale to not play as much it will and I'm
- 29:46wondering if Tisdale comes back. Do you think Tisdale would have
- 29:50enough of a grass of the defense to move over to Mike?
- 29:54And we're Lawson would be the will linebacker.
- 29:57That's a great question and that's something that I'm going
- 30:00to keep my This offseason, if he comes back because that's
- 30:05something that could give us some more athleticism at the
- 30:09linebacker position across the board, which is probably the one
- 30:11area that we have struggled in is athleticism and Mike, you
- 30:17know, Dax is who he is. We know that when he's coming
- 30:21forward towards the line of scrimmage pretty darn good when
- 30:25he's having to retreat what he's having to chase guys and
- 30:28coverage not as Eight, right? So, you know, if we can put
- 30:34Tisdale in that position and we still, you know, we got other
- 30:38guys that are that are haven't played as many Snaps are going.
- 30:41Probably going to have something to say about that.
- 30:45But you bring back Tisdale you, at least, have a proven
- 30:48commodity at that spot. And I know prize isn't afraid to
- 30:53go under sized at Mike, no. So no, no, he's not at all, but
- 31:00Again, I think seeing loss in there and then see him play as
- 31:03well as he did. Yeah.
- 31:05If he had just had an average game but he was clearly maybe
- 31:10watching him. Go sideline to sideline is
- 31:12ridiculous. The amount of ground.
- 31:15He covers and how quick he covers it is crazy.
- 31:17I was watching One Pursuit and like It was him and Dax kind of
- 31:23moving in tandem, but it was like for every two steps Dax was
- 31:27taken Lawson was taken one and covering the the same ground in
- 31:32those two. It's like he so he was catching
- 31:34up with with Dax pretty damn quick there.
- 31:38And he's just I mean he moves so well so it be if he can kind of
- 31:43get again another 10 or 15 pounds on him and get a little
- 31:47bit more comfortable in the system, the sky's the limit for
- 31:50what he can do. Awesome.
- 31:52Awesome. Let's talk about the am because
- 31:55again, Chianti Jenkins tied for the team lead in tackles had a,
- 31:59you know, a tackle for loss as well and Walker.
- 32:02I know you said you mentioned, you have a great game if he
- 32:05showed that ability to spell and I think.
- 32:11Although its Dynamic is Lawson, is it Sam?
- 32:13I think he onto Jenkin is that steady Eddie just talking with
- 32:18him earlier this year, he's going to do the right thing.
- 32:20He's going to be in the right place.
- 32:22He knows what he's supposed to do there and as you go into next
- 32:25year. We were worried about, we're
- 32:29going to lose it. We're going to lose a Sam.
- 32:31I don't think we worry about that anymore because I think I
- 32:34think, I think if you get lost in settled in it will then then,
- 32:39you know, you still have Jenkins and then you have, you know,
- 32:42Walker getting enough reps or he feels comfortable.
- 32:46You're riding out another year, right?
- 32:48I don't know and Jenkins. I mean, the first two series
- 32:53were we force them off the feel real quick?
- 32:56I mean, he was the guy getting it done.
- 32:58Done. And late in the game.
- 33:01He was the guy kind of getting it done to when the defensive
- 33:04line was feasting he was the guy that was kind of cleaning up
- 33:08some stuff. If the ball did get out there,
- 33:10nice. All right, let's talk one more
- 33:12piece. Let's talk about the secondary
- 33:14and That first touchdown Drive did not look pretty.
- 33:21For the Sounder know, you had the big throw down the sideline,
- 33:26on the third down there. Just, I'd the good position to
- 33:31kind of, make a play on the ball.
- 33:33After that, you had the big run Hawkins gets a bad run fit, kind
- 33:37of gets ate up by the tight end and then the next play that it's
- 33:43the quarterback draw. Another bad run.
- 33:47Fit loses leverage their would have to punch it.
- 33:50The End Zone there and you know, some of that they kind of work
- 33:55themselves into a good alignment to work against for that.
- 33:58Draw by motioning, the running back out of the backfield.
- 34:02But you know, when you're there, you're able to make the play,
- 34:05you got to you got to get a good fit, not lose leverage, and come
- 34:08in there and make the play. But you know, after that they
- 34:13settled down completely only giving up two field goals the
- 34:17rest of the game and I tell you what man swords of Lane.
- 34:22Holy crap, the progression that young man has made throughout
- 34:26this year is Crazy. Chris Coleman, pulled a stat out
- 34:30there on Twitter, the other day they targeted him.
- 34:32Six times one catch - yards. That's a great day for Corner
- 34:40regardless. What you say he also forced the
- 34:42fumble that kalai. Lawson recovered and he himself.
- 34:48You just feel you where he came from.
- 34:50He knows a good football University or good football,
- 34:53high school. But how should we be looking to
- 34:55Derrick Jones because with Derrick Jones, you know, you've
- 34:59got the other guys, he's coaching, right?
- 35:01A lot of them have been here. A while Mansoor is a clean
- 35:04slate, Mansoor came in. Exact how much credit should
- 35:08Derek Jones be given in the development of Mansoor?
- 35:13I mean, you got to give him some credit here because he
- 35:16identified that he's got a young Talent there.
- 35:20That can step in and be this really big time contributor in
- 35:25year one. And yeah, I think, in terms of,
- 35:32we talked about coaching and we talked about scheme delaying
- 35:36having that clean say, I think did benefit him because he's
- 35:40he's not trying to get rid of any bad habits.
- 35:42He's not trying to get rid of old technique, there's none of
- 35:46that stuff kind of gumming up the mentals. 99 in and I think
- 35:52that helped him in that that helped him be able to kind of
- 35:55almost Beyond a even footing with the veterans kind of
- 36:00starting the year and it was just, you know, the physicality
- 36:04and speed of the game had to get where it needed to be but, you
- 36:07know, in terms of the mentals he picked it up real quick and that
- 36:11was one of the things they talked about at the start of the
- 36:13Season that he had really picked up what he was supposed to be
- 36:17doing really quickly. And it was, it was all about,
- 36:20you know, Again, physicality speed of the game, so and he got
- 36:24there pretty quick as well. And, you know, when you look at
- 36:28him and then you get strong back next year, I think that's,
- 36:31that's a solid 12 that you feel pretty good about well.
- 36:35Plus having guys, like, cam Johnson who played this year,
- 36:38some where they've gotten their feet wet where they've seen,
- 36:41what it's like, where you, you know, that there was a couple
- 36:44times. Johnson made good plays.
- 36:46There are some struggles, but you essentially kind of no.
- 36:49Okay, just from looking. Adit 10,000 feet, he can play
- 36:53division. One college football, he's not
- 36:55getting crushed out there and looking terrible.
- 36:58He's, we've got some steps to make, but he'll make them exact
- 37:01know. Brian, the one thing mean,
- 37:03you've talked about, especially in the fourth quarter this year
- 37:06because the fourth quarters have not been favorable to the
- 37:10Hokies, the ODU game, the pit game, Miami at the end, Georgia
- 37:17Tech Inc, stay there, five games, right there.
- 37:19That essentially the whole He's lost in the fourth quarter, but
- 37:23this was different. This fourth quarter looked
- 37:27completely different, the Hokies control that quarter beginning
- 37:30to end. Yeah, we finally saw a
- 37:32complimentary football in the fourth quarter.
- 37:35You start the fourth quarter down.
- 37:37Yeah, offense scores and your defense holds and then your
- 37:41offense runs out the clock. There is like an concept but we
- 37:48hadn't done it all year. Yeah.
- 37:50Game 11. It and it was, it was the best
- 37:53for quarter defensive game. We've seen.
- 37:56Yeah, hands down. They played good defense for
- 38:00four quarters. We didn't see the fourth
- 38:02quarter, collapse that we've seen recently and some of that
- 38:05has to do with what we talked about earlier, with the offense,
- 38:09controlling the flow of the game.
- 38:11Yes, even when we're not putting up a ton of points, the flow of
- 38:16the game was controlled. The defense wasn't on the Field
- 38:21getting worked. And so you had complimentary
- 38:24football and the defense was able to close it out, get a big
- 38:29play. When they were kind of get, you
- 38:31know, a good dry by Liberty going there, made a big play.
- 38:34Got the ball back offense, gets on the field drives down.
- 38:39Take some damn close to them off the take some time, off the
- 38:42clock and drive down because that play that that touchdown
- 38:49late was a signal. This is about a 45-minute drive.
- 38:53Yeah. And so Liberty goes from being
- 38:55downwards. Like we have time to score two.
- 38:58Okay. It's under eight minutes.
- 39:01We've, you know, we've only put one score on this team today.
- 39:08We've only put one score on this team and that was at the
- 39:11beginning of the first quarter. And at that point, they'd only
- 39:14had three drives that really got them across the Hokies 40.
- 39:18It's true. It's true.
- 39:19So it was great to see. So we close the book on the
- 39:24Liberty game, Hokies get their third win of the year.
- 39:28It felt good. All right Brian, let's flip to
- 39:31it. Let's talk about it.
- 39:32Just a little bit here on the cancellation of the Commonwealth
- 39:36Cup game this weekend. So what happens when you don't
- 39:43mute your other computer you're working from right there.
- 39:47But in all seriousness, I don't think when everything happened
- 39:55last weekend. For the weekend before that,
- 39:58excuse me. I couldn't foresee this game
- 40:01being played, I just, I couldn't buy.
- 40:04Yeah, in all honesty. So when they announced the
- 40:08cancellation of this week I wasn't shocked.
- 40:10And I completely get it. Absolutely.
- 40:13Absolutely. And I think when you look at,
- 40:17you know, the timing of everything, I think they there
- 40:20was, there was a good job by everyone, communicating what was
- 40:23happening and And we totally understand.
- 40:29I mean I think that's that's the big thing.
- 40:31There's you lose a significant u-33, significant members of
- 40:37your team you got a lot of people that are absolutely
- 40:40hurting right now. I could not imagine trying to
- 40:46focus on a game of that magnitude under those
- 40:51conditions. No no and and and just like, you
- 40:56know, the Hokey said we've kind of left the ball in uva's court
- 41:01and we're kind of good either way that they wanted to play it.
- 41:06Now, that was one of the best things you saw week is, it's
- 41:08like, it's up to them. We're not going to push.
- 41:11We're not going to try to do anything.
- 41:14If they say, they want to play, we will play if they don't we,
- 41:18as a community, completely, get it.
- 41:22And with that being said, I know, you know, Alan Tisdale
- 41:27said, I think the week before the Liberty during the Liberty
- 41:31game and just saying, you know, if UVA didn't want to play, you
- 41:35know, We should head down the Charlottesville with some of the
- 41:37players and just kind of show the respect its football and
- 41:40this is very informal, it is bigger than football.
- 41:42Yep, you know we talked about it last week, the begin the episode
- 41:46three young men, lost their lives and it's amazing.
- 41:48My Collins is out of hospital right now.
- 41:53And you know, it stinks because it's, you know, usually right
- 41:58now, we'd be flipping the know your enemy.
- 42:00No, the enemy we'd be shit talking UVA.
- 42:03Leave it going all after it. A bit of fun hate week, but in
- 42:07this case, you know, you move forward, you help that
- 42:13community. And that team is much as
- 42:14possible just as human beings. And I mean, it's nothing but
- 42:20love this week, we talked about, this will be a week, but this
- 42:23week it's nothing but love, nothing, but love nothing, but
- 42:26love. All right, Brian.
- 42:27Let's flip over. Let's talk a little Hokies news
- 42:29other sports, let's talk about the men's suit team, you know.
- 42:35I'm starting to season out, you know what?
- 42:38Foreign 15 + 15 + 15 + 1. Excuse me, I got to remember
- 42:44there were two games played, but they lose in the finals of the
- 42:48Charleston classic to the College of Charleston, where one
- 42:51of my cousin's go. And the thing is, other than the
- 42:57first game in related for the Hokies, did not play a good
- 43:03three games down there at all. To be a Famous game game,
- 43:06special, with Penn State game, where they couldn't hit a three.
- 43:10After the 7-minute Mark, I think is what it was the rest of the
- 43:13game. They didn't shoot well, in
- 43:17really the last three games there.
- 43:20No not at all. So, in particularly, the Penn
- 43:24State game, the Penn State game was about as ugly of a shooting
- 43:26game, as we'll probably see from them all year, but they didn't
- 43:32shoot particularly well, especially in the second half
- 43:35against Charles. Then they didn't shoot that well
- 43:41earlier in the tournament. So I mean, it's just, you know,
- 43:45we're probably feel good about how this played out, considering
- 43:51how poorly they shot. Yeah.
- 43:54But at the same time you're kind of disappointed because those
- 43:57were that that was a tournament that you should have one and you
- 44:00didn't 100% should have one and eating play like that's kind.
- 44:06The way you way it there. It's like okay well considering
- 44:09how bad we shot. We did.
- 44:11Alright. But that was a winnable
- 44:14tournament that we didn't win. Yeah, it's those things.
- 44:18That You know, we didn't want to see this happen, right?
- 44:23Because we know that last year, there was that Lowell for a
- 44:27while and we've got to get there with minimal losses. 44.
- 44:36You don't want to put yourself in the same situation you were
- 44:39in last year. Where you gotta?
- 44:41You gotta win out and you gotta win the ACC tournament.
- 44:43No, we don't want that. You don't have to be perfect
- 44:47after Valentine's and in order to make the tournament.
- 44:52So again, you know, okay, you know, okay start the next few
- 44:56games here. I'm trying to pull it up on my
- 44:59phone because, you know, I had to run out.
- 45:03We need corn. Starch for tomorrow, for one of
- 45:06my wife's dishes and she thought she had some, but she didn't
- 45:10want to to grocery stores, do not attempt to buy corn starch,
- 45:14the day before Thanksgiving paprika either zero.
- 45:18Did you have the same thing? I had to run out and get some
- 45:21paprika earlier, nothing. So I went to food line, nothing
- 45:28in any of the racks were paprika like four or five different
- 45:31brands but the food line And I pulled, you know, there's like
- 45:36the little like the roller thing.
- 45:39Yeah, the rack out and there was some at the very back of the
- 45:42shelf that had fallen out, the back of the rack.
- 45:44So I grabbed one of them bitches and got out of there.
- 45:48Lucky lucky you. They had no cornstarch anywhere.
- 45:51I wanted to Kroger in food line. Nothing.
- 45:54So, you know, I got some if you need it, man.
- 45:59I think your mom has some I think I think I think mama has
- 46:03some so I'm not the one over there in the morning and get
- 46:05some but you know with the Hokies now it's it's Charleston.
- 46:09Southern on Friday. Its Minnesota in the ACC Big Ten
- 46:14challenge in Castle next Monday and then it's Carolina the
- 46:18Sunday after that. So this this really this three
- 46:21inundating in Oklahoma state. After that, this five-game
- 46:24stretch is big I think, oh, he's gotta find out a lot about.
- 46:28We finally find out a lot about them will find out a lot about
- 46:31them, but if they don't get out for in one, I'm worried.
- 46:36Yeah. Morgan.
- 46:36And I know, I know, I know, I know.
- 46:39All right, women's basketball stays undefeated.
- 46:41They are top 15. Ranked number 11 in the country
- 46:45did have a close call the other day, where they were pretty big
- 46:47lead in the fourth quarter but smash Missouri today.
- 46:51So good for the lady Hokies when he had a big on Kentucky in the
- 46:55first quarter. You Afford to, you know, let it
- 46:58get tight there too. Yeah, I just don't like tight.
- 47:03I'd prefer to. Yeah.
- 47:06I'm not certain circumstances around like saying.
- 47:09Well the only time I like tight is when it's not my team and I
- 47:13just want to be entertained. I mean, that's the only time I
- 47:17won't type the only time I want type but again, they're five and
- 47:21zero and going to the finals of the or that they win.
- 47:28Do they want? That was championship game
- 47:30today? So they didn't want to be.
- 47:31That was the the championship game of the pink flamingo.
- 47:36That's cool. Hopefully, get a cool pink
- 47:38flamingo, statue VT rustling better.
- 47:42This was several weeks ago, they did lose some Oh, Ohio State, 18
- 47:46to 13, but Ohio state is a power in to hang around where they did
- 47:53the seams going to be good again.
- 47:55This seems probably gonna win the ACC.
- 47:57This team's going to compete to have some guys potentially win
- 48:00national championships individually and it's really
- 48:06fun, right? Because if the SEC network has
- 48:09done nothing, right? They've got Friday.
- 48:11They mailed Friday nights during the winters.
- 48:13Yes, they have with the wrestling meet Finally, they
- 48:17only got something right? And without having to get like a
- 48:20bunch of direction from everybody else.
- 48:22Like we weren't like actively complaining or campaigning.
- 48:25They just actually got it right on their own and it's too good
- 48:29for them. And then, the thing is, the ACC
- 48:31is a good wrestling conference. Yeah, it's a good wrestling.
- 48:35So, they have the six in the eights and it's like this is
- 48:37entertaining. So, let's hope the boys rebound
- 48:41and can take it iron, Braun. I want to see your anger face
- 48:46here so it's coming. EA Sports announced this week
- 48:51that the NCAA football game is going to be delayed until 2024.
- 49:00That's double bird Stone, Cold Steve Austin style.
- 49:02If you aren't watching tonight, I hate it.
- 49:06I hate it and I'll tell you why I hate it because I know knowing
- 49:11EA, we're not going to get a better product because of this
- 49:14delay. That is a problem that Brian is
- 49:20real cop. We're gonna get like a slightly
- 49:22different version of mad and it's still going to be the same
- 49:25thing. We're going to fucking get in
- 49:262023. It's just coming a year later.
- 49:30Well maybe they will fool you Braun.
- 49:32Maybe they're gonna come on to complete if they do something
- 49:34that that actually gets that I'm impressed with and I'll give
- 49:39them the Kudos in 2024, all right.
- 49:45Fuck him now and tell them well, I mean I mean I mean so it was
- 49:51like I got even with so I just admitted I thought it was going
- 49:56to be a somewhat bad in Clone with some tweaks here and there.
- 50:00I was still excited about it because I haven't gotten to play
- 50:02that since 9 years. Yeah, I mean, 2014, a new game,
- 50:08a new gang. I've played it elsewhere but I
- 50:11haven't played a new game. Game in that long.
- 50:15All right. All right so before we get into
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- 50:45Now, back to the episode. All right, Brian, let's flip it.
- 50:49Let's talk some other college football because I think between
- 50:53tomorrow's game or screen tomorrow's games NFL and the Egg
- 50:57Bowl, the Egg Bowl is always a uber entertaining game, always
- 51:03Friday, all day, Football Saturday all day, football
- 51:08between doing decorations blowing leaves.
- 51:11We're going to be locked in this weekend and let's talk about the
- 51:14cfp rankings because there are few things on here that ground
- 51:19the fuck out of my gears and grind.
- 51:22It did what's the first one? Give me the first.
- 51:25Well here's my first, my first of all, let's go top 6 Georgia.
- 51:29One of how the state to Michigan 3tc you for no issues, none.
- 51:33None. By the way, the end of that TCU
- 51:36game that might have been the most impressive thing I've ever
- 51:41seen the way a specialty Munich have together and kick that
- 51:44field goal to win a game master. Really impressed.
- 51:48Here's where my issues begin. Is it number five?
- 51:52The to Los LSU Tigers. Who lost by getting their asses
- 51:58handed to them in Death Valley against Tennessee.
- 52:01I don't want or two touchdown game, But they got their asses
- 52:05handed to them and then their second loss is to for Florida,
- 52:11state looks to have a resurgent year but that was basically a
- 52:13home game in which they botched it.
- 52:15The end, they are ahead of the one loss.
- 52:20USC, Trojans. I'm not the biggest Southern Cal
- 52:23fan, 18 years ago. Officially made me hate them
- 52:26with that game in d.c. Southern Cal has lost one game.
- 52:32They just beat a good UCLA team. Yep, a good UCLA team.
- 52:36Their only loss was to Utah. Who is another good team?
- 52:40Who just went freaking Major League two giant marbles at the
- 52:47end of a game in Utah? I don't like that Utah or USC
- 52:54has lost one game this year. One game by one point.
- 52:59LSU has not the other thing that grinds my gears is number 7, the
- 53:03Alabama Crimson Tide with their two losses are ahead of Clemson
- 53:06with their one loss. Yes, I know Clemson lost by
- 53:09several scores to Notre Dame who is resurgent right now.
- 53:13It's the whole I know you can lose multiple times in multiple
- 53:18ways. This team has lost once caliber
- 53:22of competition that is all in the eye of the beholder.
- 53:26That just irritates me. No to Lost.
- 53:28You should be above a one-loss team, this latency.
- 53:32So I'll tell you what grinds, my gears, the most, and that's LSU
- 53:37and Alabama being ahead of Tennessee.
- 53:41Okay? I don't care where how low or
- 53:43high you have Tennessee but LSU and Alabama needle behind them
- 53:48as long as they have the same number of losses.
- 53:53Because they beat Alabama, they beat LSU.
- 53:57Yes, they did. They've even things that happen
- 54:00on the field. Need to still fucking matter.
- 54:05Not in the committee sighs. You got to keep a certain, you
- 54:08got to keep a certain conference.
- 54:09Happy you got to keep them happy.
- 54:13I mean, they're setting it up now, where they definitely are
- 54:16going to get to in there. Trying to sneak out a Bama back
- 54:19into this bitch. They are.
- 54:21They're trying their best. I don't think that will happen
- 54:24because I think that will raise holy hell to everybody
- 54:27especially us seen, Clemson went out.
- 54:31If you are right now, the only reason, but one second, what, if
- 54:36Ohio State of Michigan's only losses to the other?
- 54:40I mean, you absolutely have to put in both of them before you
- 54:42put in any to loss a lesson, but we'll see.
- 54:51We'll see. All right.
- 54:53So as we talk about the playoff, you know, me and Brian and we
- 54:56loved when the 12 idea came up. I just went into this mode this
- 55:00week of people continuously out there and some national media
- 55:04names and I like the guy listen to him personally, don't think I
- 55:07disagree with them on? A lot is gosh Pate I disagree
- 55:10with him on the 12th because he thinks 12 is going to water down
- 55:13the school. And I don't think he's looking
- 55:15at it through the right lens because I look for, I don't know
- 55:19if you pulled it up tonight, I'm sure you did.
- 55:23I look the last week of the Season they're literally 20
- 55:28teams that have a shot. If there was a 12 team playoff,
- 55:33there would be 20 teams that have a shot to make the
- 55:37playoffs, some are playing each other, some are playing there.
- 55:40Some of their biggest most intense rivals.
- 55:44And because the the cfp Committees already come out and
- 55:47said that president of the top six Conference champions are in
- 55:52this or end regardless that's Cincinnati, Tulane game.
- 55:58Do it. They're just because the winner
- 56:01goes to the championship game, regardless, they are going to
- 56:04have to pull everything out. That game is going to be so
- 56:07entertaining to watch because this is defective quarter filing
- 56:09it. Yeah, it's a game where whoever
- 56:13loses is eliminated from the process eliminated, they have no
- 56:18chance. They have no chance in the way.
- 56:20We look, at the way you look at the rankings right now, the if
- 56:24this was 12 teams, the AAC is guaranteed that 65.
- 56:28None of the other power 5. Or in the top 25, you've got two
- 56:34lane at 19, you get UCF at 22, and you've got Scentsy at 24.
- 56:42One of them is get one of them would be getting in.
- 56:45So, you're talking about that game, the stakes aren't just go
- 56:50to the conference Championship. Stakes are play ball.
- 56:53If we don't win this game, we can't make the play off into it.
- 56:57For those who said all these games.
- 56:59Just don't matter. Are you kidding me?
- 57:01Your I can't. What time is that guy?
- 57:04I think that's a Friday afternoon game which might mean
- 57:08I need to get the decorations up early Friday in the rain.
- 57:11Start early man. Start early starting today.
- 57:13I need to do it tomorrow. Might need to do it tomorrow.
- 57:15Let me hold on, let me look at that because I think that's a
- 57:18330 kit. Home.
- 57:21No, that is a high noon kick high noon.
- 57:24I might be going out tomorrow and putting up decorations.
- 57:29All right, family, get the hell out of here.
- 57:30I gotta put some decorations. I got your decorations, just
- 57:32leave me alone. But for real though, and then
- 57:36let's look at the big 12. Brian.
- 57:39You're talking about Kansas state if they win, they're in.
- 57:43Yeah. The Big 12 championship game and
- 57:45what does that mean in the future?
- 57:47It's going to mean, well, they have a chance to play for the
- 57:49playoff. They're playing Kansas.
- 57:53That's an in-state rivalry right there.
- 57:55Man. That is like, you tell me if
- 57:59you're Kansas in right now. If you look at the actual
- 58:02standings, Kansas state would be the last team in if there was
- 58:0612. Yeah, if it was 12, Kansas state
- 58:09would be the last team in. Can you imagine like this game,
- 58:14like? Well listen, if Kansas State
- 58:17Beach, Kansas, you know, they're probably holding on to that
- 58:19slot, they might get in where they lose.
- 58:24We not only ruined your chances to get in at large.
- 58:26Now you have to win. Oh, now you don't even make the
- 58:30big 12 championship game for your chance because if Texas
- 58:33wins, they get in. Yep.
- 58:36So yeah, these games don't matter though.
- 58:38They don't matter. It's watering down college
- 58:40football, Brian. It's not, it's not in this and
- 58:43it's not even more. Once we get to those division
- 58:47list conferences that everyone's moving to holy God is going to
- 58:50be even crazier. Yeah, it's going to be even
- 58:53crazier. And we talked about this earlier
- 58:55before we got on, you know, people say in the games on
- 58:59matter late. Yeah, they still matter, just,
- 59:01they matter in a different way. So they matter in terms of
- 59:06seating, they matter in terms of cut off, they matter in terms of
- 59:09who's playing for the conference Championship, that will
- 59:11ultimately decide who gets those top six bits true and that it's
- 59:16just a different way of looking at it.
- 59:19It's not that the games don't matter.
- 59:21It's that the games matter. In a different way.
- 59:26Wouldn't you say this though? When you say it elevates those
- 59:29games because elevates them? Because more batter now, more
- 59:32matter. Now at the end well that is,
- 59:34it's not just a who's going to be the for its who's going to be
- 59:39the Ford who's going to be the six, who's going to be the 6 and
- 59:41the 7 depending on, who wins a conference Championship?
- 59:44Who's going to be the 12 who has a chance to play to get in?
- 59:49Yeah. Think about it.
- 59:51You know go back to what 2011? When would Tekken UVA.
- 59:56When the winner went to the ACC Championship.
- 1:00:01Yeah. How, how big would that game
- 1:00:04have been? It's like in today's or the
- 1:00:06future circumstances where it's like not only does the winner.
- 1:00:10Go to the championship if they win that game there in the
- 1:00:13playoff. Yeah.
- 1:00:15You're talking about taking it from intense rivalry to just
- 1:00:19gone up, just keep going up. We're gonna sleaze in the March
- 1:00:22Madness and and Conference Championship.
- 1:00:24Holy God. Or important think about
- 1:00:27Virginia Tech last year. We know now, the Virginia Tech
- 1:00:30would not have been in the big dance.
- 1:00:33If they didn't win out. I mean, I know that they didn't
- 1:00:37turn that into a whole lot, but they wouldn't have been there to
- 1:00:41begin with worst matchup possible though.
- 1:00:43It was that they gave us the shit matchup.
- 1:00:46But, you know, we talked about even people who, you know, are
- 1:00:49in their time from the conference Championship games
- 1:00:52and I looked at Notre Dame, USC Notre Dame.
- 1:00:56After that bad stretch, they figured themselves out.
- 1:01:00They've been beating good teams. If they be in this, again, I'm
- 1:01:04looking for and I know this is hard.
- 1:01:06Hypothetical shit. But I love this shit.
- 1:01:09This is why I love college football.
- 1:01:10Yeah, you imagine if you SC bumps or Notre Dame bumps USC,
- 1:01:16this weekend and they go nine and three and they beat Clemson
- 1:01:20and they beat USC and they're only, they have to bad losses.
- 1:01:24The only other losses to House State and it was a war early in
- 1:01:27the season. They're fighting for a poly a
- 1:01:3010th or 12th seed. Yeah, they're fighting for it.
- 1:01:34And then USC now says, well, we've every good intentions
- 1:01:38we've had is gone because we lost that game.
- 1:01:40The only way we're getting in is to win an ash is to win a
- 1:01:42conference. We have to win next week now,
- 1:01:46and it raises the stakes, even more and more, and more.
- 1:01:49So when you look at this thing and you kind of start going
- 1:01:52through it because right now, this is this is who would be,
- 1:01:55and I'm going by ranks. This is who would be the
- 1:01:58conference Champion. Georgia, Ohio State, TCU,
- 1:02:01Southern Cal, Clemson. And then I'm going to go to link
- 1:02:04this to Lane is the highest-ranking AAC teams after
- 1:02:07those six. It's Michigan LSU Alabama,
- 1:02:13Oregon Tennessee. And Penn State.
- 1:02:18So Kansas state is one position out.
- 1:02:22So, let's take it. Just one step further.
- 1:02:24Before we jump onto our big screeners, because we've got a
- 1:02:27bunch this week. Alabama right now in a 12 team
- 1:02:32playoff would be poised to get in right?
- 1:02:35Yeah. For sure it would be.
- 1:02:37Do you not think on the plains Auburn would pull everything out
- 1:02:41of their ass to beat them to keep them out?
- 1:02:46yeah, I mean they would go from a If everyone below them one,
- 1:02:53they've there out there out there out there.
- 1:02:56Actually if Kansas State ultimately plays for the Big 12
- 1:02:58and wins it, then they're out and then you're looking at TCU
- 1:03:02being in because TCU would have one loss.
- 1:03:04Exactly. But you sit there and again, how
- 1:03:08much does it raise a game like the Iron Bowl?
- 1:03:10How much does it raise the big game?
- 1:03:12How much does it raise this organ Oregon State this weekend
- 1:03:15like organs in that nine slot? If they win this weekend, they
- 1:03:18probably move up a little bit there.
- 1:03:19Probably secured. 12 Oregon State beats them, pay win the
- 1:03:24Pac-12 next week against USC. It is elevating these rivalry
- 1:03:28games in week, 13 or shooting week 12.
- 1:03:32It is assuming week 13, it is elevating these rivalry games
- 1:03:36two levels. You've never seen Because teams
- 1:03:41know we win, we're probably in we lose, we're either right
- 1:03:46there or we've got to win next week.
- 1:03:49The rivalry games, get some steaks back to them again
- 1:03:52because as long as long as you're in the hunt to play for
- 1:03:56your conference Championship, it's true.
- 1:04:00If you're in the well, if you're in the hunt for your conference
- 1:04:02Championship, that's like that's almost like the back door,
- 1:04:04right? Hey, we can still win their
- 1:04:06conference Championship, like, Alabama this year tennis.
- 1:04:10See who cannot make their conference Championship, go lose
- 1:04:13to your in-state rival. I don't think you're going to
- 1:04:16make it in. You're not getting that at large
- 1:04:18either. Boom, you're gone and I mean
- 1:04:22it's crazy to think about that. So for everybody who thinks the
- 1:04:25playoff is going to lessen these games for everyone who thinks
- 1:04:29these games won't matter as much.
- 1:04:31Take a view this year and say, if this team beats that team,
- 1:04:35that teams out And this year, the state's don't matter.
- 1:04:39Thinking the future think of what a coach would be saying
- 1:04:42things. What Vanderbilt's coach would be
- 1:04:43saying to 10 about Tennessee? Yep.
- 1:04:46They're going to get in without their best player and they have
- 1:04:48to let them in. Just based on Merit.
- 1:04:51Y'all beat them on the field on Saturday.
- 1:04:55Bye-bye. Bye-bye.
- 1:05:00Hi Brian. Let's go big screeners this week
- 1:05:04because like I said at the beginning, Being good Lord.
- 1:05:09All freaking Mighty we got some good ones, man.
- 1:05:17We got some good ones, we definitely got some big.
- 1:05:19We got some good ones that matter.
- 1:05:22Well and the top, when I put on the list, Yeah, I mean, this is
- 1:05:29either going to be who's five, or who's for the winner?
- 1:05:33The winner. The loser is going to be 5 or 4.
- 1:05:37Yep. Probably when all is said and
- 1:05:38done. So Michigan, Ohio State, high
- 1:05:44noon, Saturday, number two, verses number three, which also
- 1:05:51makes we're going to have to get up and get to moving in.
- 1:05:57Lockdown. It's like no no extra sleep on
- 1:05:59Friday or Saturday into Friday into Saturday that game.
- 1:06:04Braun is a seven and a half Point.
- 1:06:06Ohio state is the favorite. What are you thinking on this
- 1:06:10one? I don't like the I don't like
- 1:06:16the spread but I do like Ohio State to win it.
- 1:06:19All right, night Brian's Brian. I'm not taking the if it was
- 1:06:25money line. I take Ohio.
- 1:06:26Say but I'm going to take Michigan with the spread.
- 1:06:28Yeah, the whole thing is all about Blake quorum to me on that
- 1:06:31one. Because I think, if corn plays,
- 1:06:34I think Michigan can win that game outright.
- 1:06:39I think Ohio state has seen a defense like this, once all you
- 1:06:43here, one time all year they seem to defense like this and
- 1:06:48that was at the beginning of the season, right?
- 1:06:50That's when they played Notre Dame Marcus Freeman and they
- 1:06:54scored 21 on them in the horseshoe.
- 1:06:58I'll be very honest with you. I think I think machines a lot
- 1:07:03more Dynamic with what weather corms.
- 1:07:05They're not, I think if corn plays I think Michigan wins.
- 1:07:09I think if he doesn't, I think it is a war.
- 1:07:11It's like a 27:26 battle. I take Michigan in the point
- 1:07:16because again, Ohio State hasn't seen this good of a defense, I
- 1:07:19think they're gonna they're gonna run into some think of the
- 1:07:22Northwestern game because Pat Fitzgerald just knows how to
- 1:07:25prep a defense. It's going to be similar to
- 1:07:27that. That and it's going to be close.
- 1:07:29All right, the next one. I'll talk about Brian.
- 1:07:32Let's go to the number four team in the country and some people
- 1:07:36will be, might be asking, why are you talking about the TCU,
- 1:07:39Iowa State game, Iowa, State's four and seven, they're not
- 1:07:42good. You know, it's a Struggle Bus,
- 1:07:46Brian. The last time a top top five
- 1:07:52team and they were number two at the time, came in the Ames Iowa,
- 1:07:56about 11 years ago, you remember that game?
- 1:07:59I do Oklahoma State and just go the way they wanted to Oklahoma
- 1:08:05State wins. They are in the national
- 1:08:06championship game in Oklahoma State laws.
- 1:08:10That wasn't, that was the premack Campbell era out in Iowa
- 1:08:14State to. So, a lesser to me a lesser
- 1:08:17coach team, tcu's going in there after what they did at Baylor.
- 1:08:22And again for those who did not see it, go to YouTube and find
- 1:08:27that a the stones of Sunny, dikes to run a play on second
- 1:08:32and seven and like a play play not a, or just going to run it
- 1:08:36up the gut and then we're going to get behind.
- 1:08:39We're going to spike the ball and bring her kick her out.
- 1:08:41No, they ran like some sort of flat.
- 1:08:45Like a running back Flats play, and he tackled short of lime to
- 1:08:49game, and they, I was just like in awe, because that was going
- 1:08:55on the same time, the Hokies game.
- 1:08:57It ended that was going on like five minutes after it happened.
- 1:09:01All right. Now for this one Brian.
- 1:09:03Now luckily this one it's not a names.
- 1:09:06It's at Fort Worth TCU is a 10-point.
- 1:09:10Favorite the over unders, 47 and a half.
- 1:09:15Do Sonny Dykes in the TCU Horned.
- 1:09:17Frog function ticket, undefeated regular season.
- 1:09:22I think they get it done. It's going to be close, though.
- 1:09:28It's going to be. I think it's going to be a
- 1:09:29little bit of a slog, tcu's a good team, but they obviously
- 1:09:36have some flaws. We'll see if I was steak and
- 1:09:40take advantage of those and kind of keep it a little bit closer
- 1:09:43than it should, all right? Just so, you know, Just so, you
- 1:09:48know, here are Iowa State's. They've got seven losses here
- 1:09:52that are lost totals. They lost a bailar by seven.
- 1:09:55They lost to Kansas by three. They lost to Kansas state by
- 1:09:58one. They lost a Texas spot three
- 1:10:00they lost Oklahoma by 14, they lost Oklahoma State by 6 and
- 1:10:04Texas Tech by for that team don't get blown out.
- 1:10:09No TCU wins like 26. 20:27 pointy.
- 1:10:18I'll take Iowa State's in the points.
- 1:10:20I've take 10 points because I think what you said, I think a
- 1:10:23will make out a slog. I do think, just because of what
- 1:10:26happened last week, I think the focus for TCU lot easier to
- 1:10:30focus on right after you have a name like that, like listen, we
- 1:10:35can lose it any point in time, all right?
- 1:10:38This is one of those Prime, we talk about the cfp if this was a
- 1:10:43year from now. Two years from now.
- 1:10:46I think it's going to be a year because I think they're going to
- 1:10:47push this thing through next year.
- 1:10:50Clemson, South Carolina, Clemson, South Carolina, the
- 1:10:54battle of the Palmetto State, and Clemson.
- 1:11:01Say what you want to say are, are this close to getting in?
- 1:11:05Probably this close to being an at-large, even if they lost to
- 1:11:08Carolina, as long as they won this game, this would be a game
- 1:11:11like 2 years from. Now that would be massively
- 1:11:13interesting if they did. Teams exactly where they were
- 1:11:17because South Carolina could absolutely say.
- 1:11:19Well no, you have to win the ACC.
- 1:11:21You're not getting that large, you have to win the conference.
- 1:11:25And what's interesting is, this is at Clemson and is a high noon
- 1:11:29also on Saturday. So Michigan, Ohio State will be
- 1:11:33there. I'll have I'll have the big one
- 1:11:39here. The other one, just above it
- 1:11:41here. What will mother 12:00 or some?
- 1:11:44Sure here. But what are you feeling on this
- 1:11:47one? Clemson, 14 and a half Point
- 1:11:50favorite 52. Z over under South Carolina
- 1:11:56coming off. A huge win over Tennessee, where
- 1:11:59unfortunately Hendon hooker, pores ACL, which is sad as shit.
- 1:12:04Yeah, for us as hokey fans, just loving that guy because I mean
- 1:12:08he still I'd say the favorite of the second favorite for the
- 1:12:12Heisman winner, losing that game because Was he I mean he was
- 1:12:17Still Ballin. So I'm kind of back again, where
- 1:12:23I was with with Michigan State, Robbie Cox Mac?
- 1:12:33Yeah, I'm I don't think they're going to lose that, right?
- 1:12:36I do think that give me South Carolina the points I think
- 1:12:40Clemson wins the game but it's a dog fight.
- 1:12:44It is a dogfight, change. Got them playing good Got
- 1:12:46Confidence with them. Right now.
- 1:12:47I'm on with you on that. I think you take South Carolina
- 1:12:50and the points, just because of Clemson's, game Flow all year.
- 1:12:54It's they're not going to blow anybody out.
- 1:12:56No. It's if they're going to if
- 1:12:58they're gonna beat them over 14 points, it's going to be a slow
- 1:13:01grind in South Carolina going to make a few mistakes late.
- 1:13:03I think Shane will find his dad's enter and be like, if it's
- 1:13:08a seven-point game way, he's going to play tight to the vest
- 1:13:11and hope they do something because of You know, the
- 1:13:15quarterback there in the mistakes.
- 1:13:16He can make. All righty, Saturday night, we
- 1:13:22go to the believe, we are in the Coliseum for this.
- 1:13:28No, yep. We are in the Coliseum. 7:30,
- 1:13:317:30, so 12:00 covered. And 7:30 is covered.
- 1:13:38So there's no telling what's in between at 3:30.
- 1:13:42There's gonna be probably a plethora games with this one.
- 1:13:44It's Notre Dame, USC, it is the wide-open offense of Lincoln
- 1:13:50Riley and USC versus that staunch defense in running
- 1:13:53attack of you of Notre, Dame 64 over under USC is a five-point
- 1:14:02favorite. I'm not messing.
- 1:14:05With a spread here of five, I think this thing goes over 64.
- 1:14:11USC cannot defend. Anybody, they can score with
- 1:14:15making score on anybody, but they cannot defend anybody.
- 1:14:20And I just don't know what's going to happen.
- 1:14:22This is good. This will probably be the game
- 1:14:24where I'm probably going to be heavy on drinks and I'm staying
- 1:14:28up late to watch. There you go.
- 1:14:30Because I think it's going to be entertaining as shit.
- 1:14:33Yeah, I'm definitely taking the over here.
- 1:14:36And I think USC probably wins it outright but I think it's going
- 1:14:40to be a shootout, it's going to be they're going to be slinging
- 1:14:44it on the u.s. seaside and I think that you're going to see a
- 1:14:48lot of a lot of Smash Mouth run. Some big some big-time runs from
- 1:14:52Notre. Dame to kind of keep Pace there.
- 1:14:55You're going to see Notre Dame. Keep Pace with big-time runs.
- 1:14:58I'm wondering how much the Virginia product.
- 1:15:02Chris Tyree, how much run he gets?
- 1:15:05It's on it, you know he has not gotten as much this year.
- 1:15:12He's kind of been there. She fell back by the way I'm
- 1:15:14gonna I'm gonna throw a name out to you if you remember this guy.
- 1:15:17Remember Audrey crostini. Yeah he is one of their big one.
- 1:15:22He is there touchdown score for Notre Dame.
- 1:15:24So potentially former hokey lean is out at you is out of Notre
- 1:15:32Dame right now. So yeah and again If you think
- 1:15:3712, and this is kind of what this segment has been built
- 1:15:39around if Notre Dame. Seriously, if this is a year or
- 1:15:44two, from now on, it's on there. If Notre Dame's seriously,
- 1:15:47they're ranked 15th right now, if they be top 10, USC team in
- 1:15:52the Coliseum at, and they go 9 and 3, Look at that.
- 1:15:58Look at. Look at his, in front of them,
- 1:16:00could they leave multiple people with that win and get there and
- 1:16:05be like the 12th or 11c? I think they still need some
- 1:16:09help but I think they could do it.
- 1:16:11Yeah. I think you probably need some
- 1:16:14help from from K-State in particular.
- 1:16:17Yeah. Unique a state to lose to
- 1:16:19Kansas. Yep.
- 1:16:21But by the way, the best thing about the whole new Set up per
- 1:16:29se is Notre. Dame will never get a bye.
- 1:16:34Ever. As long as they stay
- 1:16:35independent, they will always be playing.
- 1:16:37Although, it would be interesting to see some Southern
- 1:16:40or warm weather team. Ah, leprechaun, Probably what
- 1:16:47were you drinking tonight down in South Boston because I know
- 1:16:49that's where you are. Robbie's in home getting
- 1:16:54hammered Hobbies at home getting hammered mom.
- 1:16:57There we go. But for real though that they
- 1:17:01will but it would be lovely to see some really warm weather
- 1:17:05teams have to go to South Bend on a December afternoon to play
- 1:17:09a playoff. All right.
- 1:17:11Last one brown. We talked about this one earlier
- 1:17:14and I really focused on this one.
- 1:17:15We're talking But the cfp and that's at Tulane Cincinnati.
- 1:17:19Amen. It is high noon, it is on
- 1:17:21Friday, get whatever you need to get done early.
- 1:17:26If you're being sent out for Black Friday, shopping for your
- 1:17:30wife, Just tell her 11:30, I'm turning around, I don't care.
- 1:17:35I'm coming home to watch this game.
- 1:17:37And basically, this is a Pick'em since he's a one-point favorite.
- 1:17:40It's a forty six and a half Over Yonder.
- 1:17:43I know a couple weeks ago you like to Lane when they did help
- 1:17:46cover you with Tulsa. What you say or you have UCF,
- 1:17:53excuse me, I'm going, I'm taking two lane here, you staying with
- 1:17:59it, they use their year. I'm sticking with Tulane.
- 1:18:01Yeah, I think I think it might be their year to do some.
- 1:18:05Do a little punching up, all right?
- 1:18:08Because I think if Tulane does when two languages the
- 1:18:12conference, they're going to get the the new year six bowl, but
- 1:18:18I'm going to go opposite of you. I think Cincinnati and Circle, I
- 1:18:22think they upset them or they essentially I consider an upset
- 1:18:27when 24 beats 19. I think that happens, and I
- 1:18:32think they play UCF pin Cincinnati's back in a new year,
- 1:18:37six, playoff game again again. All right, Ron has anything
- 1:18:42broken. The last hour and 20 minutes
- 1:18:46that I see, buddy. Well, then it's, you see the
- 1:18:50home behind me as well. Watching the Celtics score like
- 1:18:5374 and a half is that they play defense.
- 1:18:55Annie me anymore. Not really not really
- 1:19:00selectively select selectively. Awesome.
- 1:19:03Well, what the hell do I say? Let me put this up real quick.
- 1:19:07He said, Wilkesboro tonight? First of all, it's must be a
- 1:19:10clear night in Wilkesboro. You can actually you actually
- 1:19:14hit the comments, the comments. All right.
- 1:19:17Well, we've got nothing else Brion that does wrap wrap up
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