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London Offers A Glimpse of New York City's Potential Future ... It's Not Good · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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  Speaker 1: Indeed, you are listening to the music that signals the
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  Speaker 1: beginning of an hour on the Morning Show with Preston
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  Speaker 1: Scott In Preston, he is Jose. It is Show fifty
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  Speaker 1: four eleven, and I waste no time bringing on our
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  Speaker 1: next guest, Zack Smith, familiar voice Heritage Foundation. Zach, how
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  Speaker 1: are you, sir?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing well. Thanks for having me on the show
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  Speaker 2: this morning.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, a week ago you wrote a piece titled
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  Speaker 1: look to London for a Glimpse of New York City's future.
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  Speaker 1: This is all been precipitated by Zoran Mamdani. Tell everybody who.
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  Speaker 2: He is, Yeah, Zorn Mamdani. He is the leading candidate
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  Speaker 2: to be New York City's next mayor. He recently won
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  Speaker 2: the Democratic primary race. Of course, a heritage we do policy,
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  Speaker 2: not politics. But what I did I looked at Zorn
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  Speaker 2: mam Donnie's policies and it's not an exaggeration to say,
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  Speaker 2: Preston that he is pushing hardcore Marxist policies in a
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  Speaker 2: host of areas, and everything from policing and public safety,
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  Speaker 2: which I write a lot about, to economics and housings.
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  Speaker 2: He's proposing to start government run grocery stores. It's an
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  Speaker 2: absolute horror show in terms of the policies he's putting forward.
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  Speaker 2: And as a point out my piece, if we look
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  Speaker 2: across the Atlantic Ocean to London, where many of these
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  Speaker 2: same socialist type policies have already been implemented, it's been
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  Speaker 2: an abject failure that I've led to more suffering from
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  Speaker 2: the citizens there, and I think we could expect more
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  Speaker 2: of the same in New York City if mom Donnie
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  Speaker 2: is elected and able to implement his policies as well.
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  Speaker 1: I want to just take a step backwards for a moment,
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  Speaker 1: because I feel as though there's a lot of confusion.
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  Speaker 1: We hear socialists, Marxist, Donald Trump says communist. Is there
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  Speaker 1: really a difference.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I would say they're all problemized ideology, sure, with
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  Speaker 2: policies that don't work, that fundamentally don't work. But there
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  Speaker 2: is a difference in terms of how far each is
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  Speaker 2: willing to go with their policies. And certainly I think
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  Speaker 2: if you look back to someone who identifies as a communist. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that mom Donnie would self identify as
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  Speaker 2: a communist, although I would say if you look at
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  Speaker 2: what he has posted on his X feed previously. I
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  Speaker 2: think he is certainly closer to that communist end of
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  Speaker 2: the line, and what it means is typically in terms
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  Speaker 2: of how far they're willing to go in terms of
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  Speaker 2: undermining a basic capitalist concepts, how far they're willing to
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  Speaker 2: redistribute property and wealth through taxation and other means as well.
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  Speaker 2: And look, I think what's really rebiliant revealing Preston is
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  Speaker 2: Mom Donnie, you know, four or five years ago, tweeted
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  Speaker 2: a well known phrase that Karl Marx himself coined is
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  Speaker 2: something to the effect of everyone according to their ability,
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  Speaker 2: everyone according to their need. And anyone who's familiar with
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  Speaker 2: that knows that phrase or some version of it came
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  Speaker 2: directly from Karl Marx himself to push his new communist ideology.
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  Speaker 2: So look, this is problematic stuff from top to bottom,
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  Speaker 2: and nothing good for New York City or from our
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  Speaker 2: country will come from it if Mom Donnie is able
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  Speaker 2: to implement these policies.
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  Speaker 1: I want to do a little deeper dive into what's
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  Speaker 1: gone on in London. But before we do that, and
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  Speaker 1: before the break, let me just ask you how problematic
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  Speaker 1: is this guy's candidacy for the ranking members of the
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  Speaker 1: Democrat Party, not just in New York but congressionally well.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's very problematic. Look, even some Congression leaders
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  Speaker 2: have had to condemn certain of his policies. In addition
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  Speaker 2: to his problematic economic policies, he's also adopted many anti
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  Speaker 2: Semitic policies as well. He's refused to condemn anti Semitic
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  Speaker 2: slogans like Globalized in Timbada, other chants that have basically
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  Speaker 2: condemned Israel for their actions in Gaza, and so this
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  Speaker 2: has created a very real problem for Democratic candidates and
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  Speaker 2: officeholders nationwide. But again, just from a policy perspective, Preston,
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  Speaker 2: I think we should all be horrified at some of
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  Speaker 2: what he's proposing.
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  Speaker 1: Zach Smith with me from the Heritage Foundation, we're looking
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  Speaker 1: at what is coming to New York City should they
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and elect Zoron Mamdani as their next mayor.
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  Speaker 1: And he compares what it could look like by looking
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  Speaker 1: at what it does look like right now in London.
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  Speaker 1: Paint the picture in London, who the mayor is and
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  Speaker 1: how in the world did this guy get elected and
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  Speaker 1: what's he done.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a good situation in London. It's the
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  Speaker 2: current mayor is someone named Sadique Khan. He's a socialist
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  Speaker 2: as well, not quite as far left as Zorroon Mamdani,
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  Speaker 2: but certainly he embraces socialists of quasi Marxist type policies.
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  Speaker 2: And if you look at what's happened in London since
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  Speaker 2: he's been elected, you've seen crime, sore, violent crime, stuff,
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  Speaker 2: shoplifting are all up. It's public housing sector in London
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  Speaker 2: is abysmal. The private rental sector. He's taken efforts to
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  Speaker 2: try to shrink that intentionally, and so as a result,
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  Speaker 2: you're seeing a surge in homelessness. He's also helped to
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  Speaker 2: weaponize London police to monitor online speech to enforce kind
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  Speaker 2: of the liberal socialist orthodoxy. I think we've all probably
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  Speaker 2: seen pictures of people in the United Kingdom, in London,
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  Speaker 2: specifically being arrested for praying silently outside of abortion clinics,
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  Speaker 2: for being interrogated about posts they've made on social media.
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  Speaker 2: He's certainly been supportive of those efforts as well, and
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  Speaker 2: unfortunately he's also helped to stoke some of the same
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  Speaker 2: anti Semitic type rhetoric that we've seen Mamdani helped to
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  Speaker 2: stoke as well, and I'll give one example that I
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  Speaker 2: talk about in my piece in twenty twenty three, on
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  Speaker 2: our Mystic Day, which is the UK's equivalent of Veterans Day,
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  Speaker 2: essentially three hundred thousand pro Palestinian demonstrators disrupted the ceremonies
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  Speaker 2: the other solemn events that were taking that day, and
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  Speaker 2: con didn't really rebuke them, He only nominally said something.
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  Speaker 2: And as a result of that, reported anti Semitic incidents
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  Speaker 2: in London it's surged by staggering one three hundred and
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  Speaker 2: fifty percent in the week's afterwards. And you see this
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  Speaker 2: time and time again. In a speech he gave at
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  Speaker 2: the close of raw Amadan, he condemned Israel for their
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  Speaker 2: supposed occupation of Gaza, and yet he never has condemned
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  Speaker 2: Hamas Preston, Are there October seventh attack in that same
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  Speaker 2: speech or anything like that? So problematic stuff from top
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  Speaker 2: to bottom.
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  Speaker 1: We've documented on the show Zach the headway that Islam
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  Speaker 1: has made in England, but certainly in London, the existence
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  Speaker 1: of Shariah courts across the country. Is this an indicator
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  Speaker 1: his election and his place in London? Is this an
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  Speaker 1: indicator of just British indifference? Or is this a greater
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  Speaker 1: indicator of Islamic impact and influence.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's really a strange situation because if
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  Speaker 2: you look at his policies, many of his policies are
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  Speaker 2: very left leaning, very liberal, very out of line with
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  Speaker 2: other Muslim members of the British political community there. And
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  Speaker 2: so you have him focusing on things like climates, justice,
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  Speaker 2: things like DEI initiatives, and really the one area, unfortunately
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  Speaker 2: where he seems to align, particularly with other far white
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  Speaker 2: members of the Islamic community there in Britain, is in
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  Speaker 2: some of the anti Semitic rhetoric that he has embraced
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  Speaker 2: and used and allowed to flourish under his rule. And look,
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  Speaker 2: I think again, if you look at Mamdani and some
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  Speaker 2: of what he said, you know, not a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people realized before he was a politician, before he was
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  Speaker 2: in the State House there in New York, he was
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  Speaker 2: a small time rapper essentially, how I would phrase it.
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  Speaker 2: He performed under the stage name mister Cartermom. You can
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  Speaker 2: go on YouTube look up some of his videos, but
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  Speaker 2: there's a line in one of his songs he says,
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  Speaker 2: quote my love to the Holy Land five you'd better
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  Speaker 2: look them up. Well, I did look him up, and
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  Speaker 2: I think your readers, if they're interesting, can look them
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  Speaker 2: up as well. And if you do that, you'll quickly
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  Speaker 2: find out that the Holy nine to five are individuals
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  Speaker 2: who are convicted of funneling millions of dollars to Hamas.
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  Speaker 2: And that is the individual that he was giving praise
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  Speaker 2: to before he was ever in the political world, before
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  Speaker 2: he was in the political arena. And I think that's
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  Speaker 2: a very problematic thing in and of itself.
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  Speaker 1: Zack Smith with me. We're talking about a piece he's written,
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  Speaker 1: Look to London for a Glimpse of New York City's Future,
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  Speaker 1: and he points to the mayoral disaster of London that
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  Speaker 1: is Sadi Khan, and just looking at the policies advanced
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  Speaker 1: by Zoe Randmum Donnie in New York City, who is
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  Speaker 1: right now you would have to say the leading candidate.
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  Speaker 1: But I want to go back and ask you, Zach,
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  Speaker 1: aren't we fundamentally facing maybe a bigger problem than that is,
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  Speaker 1: how is it possible that someone that espouses socialist Marxist
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  Speaker 1: communist views is a heel described socialist? How can they
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  Speaker 1: even run for office when they're asked to uphold the Constitution?
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  Speaker 2: Well? Look, I think what we're seeing is a failure
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  Speaker 2: of basic civics education in many respects. Preston that so
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  Speaker 2: many people have been taken in by these talking points,
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  Speaker 2: this philosophy that has failed time and time again wherever
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  Speaker 2: whenever it has been tried, and I think that's why
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  Speaker 2: you're seeing Governor DeSantis others placing such an emphasis on
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  Speaker 2: civics education so that citizens are equipped to understand and
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  Speaker 2: push back against this philosophy whenever someone brings it up
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  Speaker 2: and tries to repackage it in a new social media
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  Speaker 2: friendly format. But look, you're absolutely right. I think we
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  Speaker 2: should be troubled by the fact that this ideology has
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  Speaker 2: taken off. We should be troubled that so many people,
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  Speaker 2: particularly at the local level around the country, have adopted
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  Speaker 2: this policy. But I think that's why it's so important
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  Speaker 2: to have these conversations, so that we can push back
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  Speaker 2: against it and point out you know, socialisms and Marxisms
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  Speaker 2: and communisms, mini flaws and many failures.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned to me in the break though, that there's
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  Speaker 1: even another layer to this and it has to do
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  Speaker 1: with citizenship.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's right. Look, I think we've seen some questions
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  Speaker 2: being raised around what Zoron Mamdani may have filled out
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  Speaker 2: on his citizenship application form. Whenever you apply to be
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  Speaker 2: a US citizen, to be naturalized, as Mamdanni is, you
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  Speaker 2: have to essentially swear, essentially that you're not going to
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  Speaker 2: adopt policies that undermine the current system of government, that
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  Speaker 2: don't undermine the United States. And so you've seen some
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  Speaker 2: calls to examine that. I don't know that they've gained
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  Speaker 2: much traction yet, but I think it is a very
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  Speaker 2: interesting question to ask, is you know, if someone espouses
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  Speaker 2: these socialist, Marxist, communist ideologies, certainly seems to me like
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  Speaker 2: that would undermine our current system of government. And so
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  Speaker 2: I think that's why you've seen some calling for his
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  Speaker 2: naturalization forms and others to be closely examined.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let me, I happen to have, as fate would
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  Speaker 1: have it, in my stack of papers that I refer
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  Speaker 1: to from time to time, literally here at all times,
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  Speaker 1: the Oath for Naturalization, and it says at the very
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  Speaker 1: beginning that I hereby declare on oath that I absolutely
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  Speaker 1: and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to
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  Speaker 1: any foreign, prints potentate state, or sovereignty of whom or
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  Speaker 1: which I have here too been a subject or citizen.
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  Speaker 1: And this is the part that you're alluding to, Zach,
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  Speaker 1: that I will support and defend the Constitution and the
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  Speaker 1: laws again of the United States, against all enemies foreign
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  Speaker 1: and domestic, and I will bear true faith and allegiance
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  Speaker 1: to the same. How can someone be a socialist or
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  Speaker 1: Marxist or communist and stay true to that oath. That's
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  Speaker 1: not possible. They are in contradiction to each other.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, look, it's I think that's a great question. But
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  Speaker 2: it's more than that too, Preston. Look, you have to
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  Speaker 2: fill out detailed information, you have to go through extiences
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  Speaker 2: and background checks, you have to go through interviews, and
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  Speaker 2: so it'd be very interesting to see what the answers
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  Speaker 2: to some of those questions were throughout that process. But look, mom,
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  Speaker 2: Donnie hasn't been shy about his policies. He hasn't been
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  Speaker 2: shy about his positions. That's particularly true if you go
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  Speaker 2: back and read his ex then Twitter feed from around
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty twenty twenty one. I leaked to some of
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  Speaker 2: those posts in my article. You can go to my
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  Speaker 2: own x feed at tz Smith. That's at tz Smith
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  Speaker 2: where I highlight and talk about some of those posts
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  Speaker 2: as well. But look, he's been very vocal about his
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  Speaker 2: view that police officers should be defunded. You should defund
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  Speaker 2: the police. He's been very vocal about his views that
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  Speaker 2: socialist policies are the way forward, that we should freeze rents,
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  Speaker 2: that we should gain implement government controls in many areas.
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  Speaker 2: And so it's a litany of problematic Marxist based policies
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  Speaker 2: that he's been advocating for for many years.
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  Speaker 1: At this point, all right, in closing forty five seconds,
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  Speaker 1: what's better, New York go ahead and elect him as
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  Speaker 1: your mayor and watch it all burn, or now you
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  Speaker 1: got to keep him out of the office.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's not a great choice because at this point
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  Speaker 2: your choice is either Zoran Mamdani or maybe Andrew Cuomo,
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  Speaker 2: maybe Eric Adams, which have their own problematic policies as
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  Speaker 2: a well. But look, I think this is a bad
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  Speaker 2: thing for us as our country. Preston if Mamdani is
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  Speaker 2: able to implement these policies, or if anyone is able
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  Speaker 2: to implement these policies in one of our nation's biggest cities.
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  Speaker 2: New York City has many problems, but fundamentally it is
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  Speaker 2: a one of the iconic American cities on the world stage.
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  Speaker 2: It carries a lot of weight in terms of the
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  Speaker 2: financial markets, other areas of everyday American life. So this
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  Speaker 2: would be a really bad thing if he's a able
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  Speaker 2: to implement these policies, and I think he should serve
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  Speaker 2: as a warning to the rest of our nation. And
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  Speaker 2: that's someone who espouses these policies to be elected as
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  Speaker 2: the mayor of a major American American city.
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  Speaker 1: Perfect last word, Zach, thanks for the time today, be.
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  Speaker 2: Well, of course, thanks for having me on.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, Zach Smith with us from the Heritage Foundation.
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  Speaker 1: You're in the Morning Show with Preston Scott.