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The Famous Journalist Who Murdered Prostitutes · Murder Files Unsealed

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Speaker 1: So I want you to just imagine flipping on the
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evening news, right, and you see the country's most celebrated
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journalist reporting on a string of really gruesome murders.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, a guy who is basically holding court at vip
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galas and charming politicians.
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Speaker 1: Exactly winning all these literary awards. Now imagine that same
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journalist is secretly the one actually committing those murders, which
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is just terrifying, it really is. And he just used
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his press pass to get the LAPD to give him
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a guided tour of exactly where to find his next victims.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it completely shatters our standard mental model of
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what a predator looks like. We are so wired to
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look for the stranger lurking in the alleyway, the obvious.
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Speaker 1: Threat, right, the guy in the trench coat in the
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shadow exactly.
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Speaker 2: We are entirely unprepared for a predator who uses our
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own institutional systems against us, using our media and our
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desire for a compelling redemption story as his primary hunting camouflage.
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Speaker 1: Basically, it's wild. So today's deep dive is opening up
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a case file from the early nineteen nineties that really
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forces us to look at how easily we can be connedsolutely.
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We are tracking the hunt for Austria's first modern serial killer,
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a guy named Jack Underwiger, and we're drawing our insights
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today from extracted official FBI files.
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Speaker 2: Which are fascinating to read, by the way, they really are.
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Speaker 1: We've got the comprehensive psychological profiles built by the literal
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pioneers of behavioral science and these specific forensic innovations that
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ultimately brought him down.
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Speaker 2: And what becomes immediately apparent when you read these sources
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is a catastrophic systemic failure.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, total breakdown.
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Speaker 2: You have a situation where a complete lack of local
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experience with this specific type of psychopathology forced this unprecedented
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international collaboration.
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Speaker 1: Right because you're looking at Austrian detectives, Los Angeles homicide cops,
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and the FBI's elite profiling unit all having to basically
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invent a new way to communicate.
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Speaker 2: And analyze evidence in real time across continents, which was
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not easy back.
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Speaker 1: Then, not at all. So the core questionnology to keep
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in mind as we go through this is about perception
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versus reality. You might think you can spot a dangerous
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person in a crowd.
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Speaker 2: Most people do think that, Yeah, but what if.
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Speaker 1: That person is sitting on a television talk show just
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charming an entire nation. How does this society get so
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completely blinded?
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Speaker 2: It's a great question.
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's unpack this. To understand how this happens. We
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have to start in the freezing winter of nineteen ninety
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in central Europe, and we need to look at the
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environment where this began.
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Speaker 2: Right. The local context is crucial here because.
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Speaker 1: In Austria, street prostitution isn't a shadow economy, it's an actual, legal, regulated.
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Speaker 2: Profession, and that legal framework fundamentally changes the baseline behavior
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of the women working in that industry.
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Speaker 1: How so, like, why does that change on the ground.
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Speaker 2: Well, because they are licensed professionals operating out in the open,
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they develop highly calibrated internal radar systems. They aren't constantly
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hiding from the police.
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Speaker 1: All right, so they don't have to rush into cars
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just to avoid.
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Speaker 2: Getting arrested exactly, which means their primary focus is purely
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on assessing the safety of potential clients. They are looking
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for specific red flags, so.
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Speaker 1: They have a really high guard up against weird behavior.
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Speaker 2: Very high. And the first victim discovered in this series
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Heider Murray Hammer was known among her peers in the
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city of Bragans for having an incredibly strict vetting process.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the file said she had been in the trade
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for almost ten years. She had survived violent encounters before,
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so she didn't just hop into any car. She had
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a strict mental checklist, right.
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Speaker 2: Which means whoever approached her on the night of December fifth,
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nineteen ninety by passed a decade of survival instincts.
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Speaker 1: He must have been incredibly smooth.
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Speaker 2: He had to be. He didn't present as erratic or
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aggressive or desperate in any way. He presented this veneer
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of total normalcy, perhaps even an affluence and professional courtesy.
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Speaker 1: Just completely disarming her highly tuned threat detection exactly. So
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she vanishes outside of parking garage that night, and for
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three weeks there is just nothing, no trace of.
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Speaker 2: Her until New Year's Eve.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the case only breaks on New Year's Eve when
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some hikers in a secluded wooded area about ten miles
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away just stumble onto our body.
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Speaker 2: And the environmental conditions here really dictate the early forensics.
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Speaker 1: Because it's the dead of winter in Austria.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, the freezing temperatures basically halt the normal decomposition process.
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The cold acts as an immense forensic advantage for the police.
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Speaker 1: So it preserves evidence that would normally be lost oh.
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Speaker 2: A massive amount. If a body is exposed to the
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elements for three weeks in the heat of the summer,
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the breakdown of tissue destroys so much physical evidence, particularly
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on the surface of the skin.
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Speaker 1: But here, because she was basically on ice, they could see.
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Speaker 2: More exactly the freezing temperatures preserved the soft tissue. This
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allowed the medical examiners to isolate very specific, faint bruising
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patterns around her.
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Speaker 1: Wrists indicating she had been bound.
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Speaker 2: Yes, bound, and they found deeply marks on her neck.
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Speaker 1: And the really twisted part is the weapon used for
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the strangulation wasn't a rope or something that killer brought
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to the scene. It was her own pantiose.
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Speaker 2: He essentially weaponized her own clothing against her.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the police also note that she was hurriedly
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redressed after the murder. But looking at the autopsy notes,
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there's this massive anomaly that immediately derailed the Austrian Police's
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standard playbook.
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Speaker 2: What's fascinating here is that in almost any homicide involving
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a sex worker. The baseline assumption by law enforcement is
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a sexual assault that escalated.
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Speaker 1: Right, They assume the motive is sexual gratification.
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Speaker 2: But the autopsy of Heydemuri revealed a total absence of
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any biological discharge. There was no semen, no evidence of
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a completed sexual act whatsoever.
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Speaker 1: Which is really strange given the context of the crime.
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But they did find microscopic foreign clothing fibers on her
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body that didn't match her own wardrobe.
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Speaker 2: They did, so you have a victim targeted in a
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sexual context, stripped bound and strangled with her own intimate apparel,
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but the biological mechanics of a sexual assault are entirely missing.
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Speaker 1: That seems like a complete contradiction. I mean, what is
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driving the violence if it isn't sexual gratification.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's a crucial distinction and behavioral analysis. When later
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profilers looked at that specific absence of biological evidence combined
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with the extreme intimate violence of ligature strangulation, they recognize
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a very specific.
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Speaker 1: Pathology, meaning they knew what kind of person does this.
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Speaker 2: Yes, this wasn't a killer driven by lust, This was
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a killer driven by profound impotence and rage.
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Speaker 1: Wait, really, so the literal inability to perform sexually is
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what triggers the lethal violence precisely.
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Speaker 2: The psychology here is rooted in deep seated insecurity and
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a very fragile sense of masculinity.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so when you can't perform, he snaps right.
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Speaker 2: When the offender is confronted with his own sexual inadequacy,
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he experiences an overwhelming narcissistic injury. The prostitute, who is
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essentially a mirror reflecting his failure, becomes the target of
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an explosive compensatory rage.
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Speaker 1: Oh wow, so killing her is how he gets his power.
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Speaker 2: Back, exactly, the act of strangling her, controlling her breath,
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holding the power of life and death, and then leaving
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her in a humiliating, discarded position that substitutes for the
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sensual act. The murder actually is the climax of the
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interaction for him that is.
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Speaker 1: So dark, and that psychological need didn't stop with id
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murray Over the next few months is geographic pattern. Horror
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just spreads across the country.
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Speaker 2: It escalates quickly.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, in Graz they find Brunilda Masuru in a streamed
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Then shortly after that Elfrida shrimp is found in the nearby.
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Speaker 2: Woods, and then the violence moves to.
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Speaker 1: Vienna, right where Sylvia Zegler is discovered in a stand
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of trees. The pattern is just so.
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Speaker 2: Obvious, the linkage is absolute. The victims are all sex workers,
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they are all found faced down in wooded areas, often
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near water.
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Speaker 1: And the forensics match too right perfectly.
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Speaker 2: The bruising on the wrists is consistent across the board,
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and every single one is wrangled with her own pantyhose
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and left partially undressed.
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Speaker 1: So by April of nineteen ninety one, the public panic
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is huge. It forces the Austrian authorities to assemble a
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major task force.
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Speaker 2: They bring in doctor Ernst Geiger, who is a highly
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decorated detective, to take command.
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Speaker 1: But reading through his early case files, you can just
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feel the complete operational paralysis, like they realize they have
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a serial killer on their hands, and that realization.
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Speaker 2: Is paralyzing because they have literally never hunted one before.
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It's a profound institutional blind spot.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Austria has a low murder rate anyway, right,
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very low.
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Speaker 2: Austrian law enforcement was highly competent at solving traditional homicides,
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but traditional homicides operate on a logic of proximity.
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Speaker 1: It's kind of like being a team of brilliant trauma
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surgeons suddenly being asked to cure a viral outbreak. You know,
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they understand anatomy perfectly, but they are looking for a
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bullet wound when the actual threat is microscopic and spreading invisibly.
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Speaker 2: That is a great way to put it.
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Speaker 1: They're interviewing jealous boyfriends and local pimps, but this killer
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isn't operating on domestic logic.
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Speaker 2: Traditional motive revolves around money, jealousy, or revenge. You find
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the victim draw a circle around their known associates, and
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the killer is almost always inside that circle.
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Speaker 1: But a serial predator operates entirely outside that geometry completely.
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Speaker 2: They hunt strangers to satisfy an internal psychological script. If
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you apply traditional investigative techniques to a stranger on stranger
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serial crime, you will generate thousands of leads that go
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absolutely nowhere, which.
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Speaker 1: Is exactly what happened. Months go by. The files showed
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task force meetings ending in total frustration. They needed a
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massive paradigm.
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Speaker 2: Shift, and oddly enough, it didn't come from a new
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piece of forensic technology.
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Speaker 1: Or a sudden psychological inside either it came from a
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retired cop drinking coffee in Salzburg.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, just a guy reading the morning paper.
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Speaker 1: It's crazy. He's looking at the details the police had
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released to the public, specifically the signature of strangulation with
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undergarments and dumping the bodies in secluded woods.
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Speaker 2: And those specific mechanics triggered a memory for him, a
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case he had personally worked and solved fifteen years prior,
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back in nineteen seventy four.
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Speaker 1: So he calls doctor Geiger and says, I've seen this
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exact sequence before, young woman undergarment ligature dumped in the woods, and.
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Speaker 2: Geiger obviously asks who the guy is, right, and.
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Speaker 1: The retired officer gives him the name Johann Jack Undwiger.
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Speaker 2: A name that would haunt Austrias seriously.
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Speaker 1: He tells Geiger they caught him, convicted him, and he
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was serving a life sentence. But then he adds the
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detail that changes the entire trajectory of Austrian history.
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Speaker 2: Jack Underwager had recently been paroled.
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Speaker 1: The shock in the Austrian police headquarters must have been
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just palpable, because Jack Underwager wasn't just some paroled convict
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quietly living in a halfway house.
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Speaker 2: No, he had become one of the most famous, celebrated
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figures in the country's cultural elite.
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Speaker 1: Which is just insane to think about. You have to
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look at how a convicted murderer serving a life sentence
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somehow transforms into a literary darling.
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Speaker 2: To understand the architecture of this con we really have
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to look at the psychology forged in his childhood because
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it dictates everything he does next.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, his origin story is incredibly grim, it really is.
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Speaker 2: He was born to a German sex worker who abandoned
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him almost immediately. He was thrown into a chaotic, abusive
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system of foster care, completely starved of affection, stability, or
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any normal socialization.
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Speaker 1: In a developmental environment like that often creates a profound,
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simmering hostility toward the world.
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Speaker 2: Right, yes, specifically toward women who resemble the mother who
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discarded him. That hostility boils over in nineteen seventy four
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when he's twenty five years old, resulting in that first
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murder and the life sentence.
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Speaker 1: So society locks him away. But prison is where Jack
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discovers his most dangerous weapon. It wasn't physical violence. It
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was narrative manipulation.
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Speaker 2: He was highly intelligent. He starts reading voraciously, educating himself,
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and then he starts writing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he begins churning out poems, plays, short stories and
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sending them out to publishers, and then he releases an
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autobiography that becomes a massive commercial and critical.
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Speaker 2: Success, which is a huge turning point.
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Speaker 1: I read excerpts of how the book was received, and
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it's fascinating. He doesn't write a confession of a monster.
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He writes a tragedy where he is the protagonist.
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Speaker 2: Yes, he uses incredibly sophisticated language to frame his violence
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not as a choice, but as the inevitable byproduct of
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a cruel society that failed an innocent child.
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Speaker 1: He is basically employing a highly advanced form of psychological manipulation,
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which it's closely related to Darvo right attack and reverse
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victim and offender.
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Speaker 2: Exactly while he couldn't deny the murder because he was
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already convicted of it, he completely reversed the victimhood.
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Speaker 1: He essentially told the Austrian intellectual class, I am a
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monster that your systemic failures created. My crime is actually
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society's sin.
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Speaker 2: And the cultural elite absolutely devoured it. They felt guilty,
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they did, they wanted to believe, and the rehabilitative power
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of the arts. They built this entire mythology around him,
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that art had redeemed his soul. It became fashionable to
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support Jack Unterwigger.
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Speaker 1: I mean, psychopaths are remarkably adept at identifying the emotional
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vulnerabilities of their targets, aren't they.
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Speaker 2: Oh, they are masters at it. Jack recognized that post
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war Austrian society, particularly the intellectual left, had a deep
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desire to prove their systems were enlightened and capable of
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reforming the worst offenders.
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Speaker 1: So he fed them exactly the redemption narrative they were
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desperate to.
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Speaker 2: Hear, mimicking remorse and intellectual awakening flawlessly. It was all
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a performance, and it.
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Speaker 1: Worked so well that the public pressure campaign to free
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him became deafening. Journalists, politicians, authors, they were all openly
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demanding his release.
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Speaker 2: It's a classic example of groupthink overwriting common sense.
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Speaker 1: So in May of nineteen ninety, the parole board caves
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to the cultural pressure. At forty years old, he walks
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out of prison.
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Speaker 2: He steps out into a literal media frenzy. There are
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cameras everywhere, and he declares to the press that he
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will never spend another minute of his life in a cell.
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Speaker 1: And here is where the audacity hits a level that
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is almost difficult to comprehend. The moment he has released,
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a prominent German magazine hires him.
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Speaker 2: This is the part that is just staggering to me.
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Speaker 1: His assignment to act as a special investigative journalist covering
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the terrifying new string of prostitute murders in the region.
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Speaker 2: The sociological blind spot here is just staggering. He secures
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a legitimate, funded platform to physically inject himself into the
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investigation of his own active serial killings.
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Speaker 1: He pitched the story by claiming he wanted to use
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his platform to highlight the plight of the marginalized, the
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sex workers forced into the shadows.
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Speaker 2: Because he too knew what it was like to be
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discarded by society.
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Speaker 1: Right, he weaponized his own victim narrative to get access
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to his actual victims.
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Speaker 2: It demonstrates a breath taking level of psychopathic arrogance. He
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isn't just killing, He is playing a massive game with society,
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testing how far he can push his deception while operating
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in plain sight.
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Speaker 1: So as the summer of nineteen ninety one approaches, the
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body count in Austria continues to rise. Doctor Geigo brings
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in a psychologist, Tom Mueller, to help analyze the suspect.
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Speaker 2: But Mueller finds investigating Jack nearly impossible because Jack is
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so deeply insulated by his fame.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, whenever the police ask questions, the media accuses them
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of harassing a rehabilitated genius.
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Speaker 2: They are essentially fighting the entire cultural establishment of their
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own country.
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Speaker 1: It's like the cops were the bad guys for even
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looking at him. So Geiger and Mueller have to get
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incredibly granular. They start pulling Jack's financial records, his travel itineraries,
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his book tour.
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Speaker 2: Schedules, and they map his physical movements against the discovery
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of the bodies.
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Speaker 1: Now, Jack's built in alibi is his journalism. If they
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point out he was in Gras when a body was found,
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he can simply say, well, yes, I was dispatched there
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by my editor to cover the crime.
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Speaker 2: But the data reveals a subtle fatal.
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Speaker 1: Flaw in that alibi when they scrutinize the exact dates.
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Jack wasn't a right in these cities like Prague, Gras
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Bragins after the bodies were discovered.
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Speaker 2: No, his travel receipts showed he was consistently arriving in
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those locations just before the women went.
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Speaker 1: Missing, so the timeline of his movements actually predated the
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public knowledge of the crimes.
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Speaker 2: That chronological discrepancy is what forces the task force to
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look closely at his international movements, particularly a trip he
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took to Prague in September nineteen ninety.
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Speaker 1: Which involves a very specific victim, Blanca Bokhova. Blanco represents
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a deviation in the pattern. Right.
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Speaker 2: Yes, she wasn't a licensed street worker like the women
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in Austria.
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Speaker 1: The file say she worked in a butcher shop, though
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they noted she occasionally traded sex for favors within her
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social circle.
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Speaker 2: She vanished after leaving a local bar right when Jack
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was in the city. Her body was eventually found in
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a wooded stretch near the Voltaba River.
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Speaker 1: So while the victim profile shifted slightly, the mechanics of
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the violence remained static. She was strangled with her own
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nylon stockings.
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Speaker 2: But it was the forensic staging of the body that
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provided profound psychological insight into the offend. The scene was
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incredibly chaotic compared to the others.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, she was left entirely naked, and the killer had
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gone to the trouble of covering her body with heavy
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branches and twigs, plus all of her clothing and her
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identification documents have been thrown into the river.
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Speaker 2: Right, Throwing the clothing and ID into moving water is
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a calculated anti forensic measure. He is attempting to destroy
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trace evidence and delay the identification of the botter, giving
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himself a wider window to establish an alibi.
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Speaker 1: But the act of covering her with branches that speaks
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to his internal state, doesn't it? Because sometimes doesn't covering
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a body indicate a sense of remorse from the killer,
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like they can't bear to look at what they've done.
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Speaker 2: In cases of interpersonal domestic violence, yes a killer might
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cover a spouse's face out of shame or regret. But
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in the context of a psychopathic serial offender, covering a
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naked body with forest debris is an act of extreme objectification.
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Speaker 1: So it's not remorse at all, not even slightly.
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Speaker 2: He isn't showing remorse. He is treating her like garbage,
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literally sweeping her under the debris. Of the forest floor.
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It's an assertion of absolute dominance.
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Speaker 1: Wow, and that dominance and sadism only escalate. Look at
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what he did with the eighth victim, a woman named
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Regina prem.
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Speaker 2: This part is truly chilling.
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Speaker 1: She goes missing and her family is agonizing for months
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waiting for the police to find any trace of her.
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Then one night, the phone rings at her husband's house.
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It's an unlisted number.
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Speaker 2: Reaching out to taunt the surviving family. Is a glaring
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hallmark of psychopathic sadism.
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Speaker 1: The voice on the phone tells the family exactly what
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Regina was wearing the night she vanished, proving he is
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the killer. But he doesn't just say she's dead. He
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claims to be the quote unquote executioner, stating that God
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himself ordered the killing.
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Speaker 2: The grandiosity is off the charts.
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Speaker 1: He tells the grieving husband that he left her body
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on a place of sacrifice, deliberately positioning her face so
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it was turned towards hell.
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Speaker 2: See, this has nothing to do with the victim in
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the woods anymore. This is about the killer extracting further
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emotional supply for living.
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Speaker 1: The murder isn't enough for him.
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Speaker 2: Exactly the murder is no longer enough to satisfy his ego.
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He needs to project his power to know that he
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is actively inflicting psychological torture on a family from the shadows.
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It feeds his grandiosity and his delusion of godlike control
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over life and death.
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Speaker 1: Despite building this psychological profile and mapping his travel, when
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the police finally bring Jack in for questioning in October
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nineteen ninety one, they hit a massive legal wall.
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Speaker 2: Because he is incredibly composed. He operates purely on intellect,
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completely devoid of the anxiety or guilt that usually breaks
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a suspect. In an interrogation room.
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Speaker 1: They lay out the circumstantial evidence, the proximity, the timeline.
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Jack doesn't even blink. He smoothly admits to hiring sex workers.
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Speaker 2: He basically leans into it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he tells the detective's look, I'm writing a book
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on the underbelly of society. Of Course I talk to
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these women. Of course I pay them. Sometimes we have sex.
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It's research.
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Speaker 2: He gives them a perfectly plausible reason for his proximity
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to the victim pool while completely denying any knowledge of
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the murders.
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Speaker 1: And he knows exactly what the police have, which is
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nothing concrete, without a murder weapon, without eyewitnesses to the
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actual killings, and without DNA tying him to the bodies.
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He knows they can't hold.
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Speaker 2: Him, and the police know that if they arrest a
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national celebrity on purely circumstantial evidence, the backlash will destroy
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their careers.
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Speaker 1: They literally have to let him walk out the door,
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but doctor Geiger refuses to let it drop. The task
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force realizes they need hard science.
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Speaker 2: So they tracked down the vehicle Jeck was driving during
20:33
his first year of freedom, which he had sold months earlier.
20:36
Speaker 1: Which is a long shot. I mean, searching a car
20:38
that has changed owners, been driven by someone else, and
20:41
been vacuumed repeatedly is an active investigative desperation.
20:45
Speaker 2: It is, but that desperation actually pays off. Deep in
20:48
the upholstery, crime scene, technicians find a single hair fragment,
20:52
just one.
20:53
Speaker 1: Tiny piece of hair. They secure it and send it
20:56
to the University of Berne in Switzerland, just hoping for
20:58
a miracle.
21:00
Speaker 2: To understand the magnitude of this, we really have to
21:02
contextualize the science of the time. In the early nineties,
21:05
forensic DNA analysis was in its infancy. Polymerase chain reaction
21:10
or PCR testing, which allows scientists to amplify tiny amounts
21:13
of DNA, was just becoming viable in criminal cases.
21:17
Speaker 1: But you couldn't just use the shaft of the hair, right,
21:19
You needed the root intact to extract cellular material exactly.
21:24
Speaker 2: And miraculously, this tiny fragment had just enough of the
21:29
root remaining. The lab technicians in Switzerland managed to extract
21:32
a sequence compared against the DNA profiles of the victims,
21:36
and they get a hit.
21:37
Speaker 1: It matches Blanka Pakova from Prague.
21:39
Speaker 2: Scientifically, it's a triumph. Legally though, it's still.
21:42
Speaker 1: Problematic, right because a defense attorney will just look at
21:45
that and say, well, my client admits to hiring sex workers.
21:48
She was in his car. That proves she was a passenger,
21:51
not that he dragged her into the woods and strangled her.
21:53
Speaker 2: Precisely, the physical evidence proves proximity, which Jack already admitted to.
21:59
It doesn't definitive murder, so.
22:01
Speaker 1: Geiger pivots back to human intelligence. He sends officers into
22:05
the red light districts with Jack's photo. They find several
22:09
women who recognize him as a regular client.
22:11
Speaker 2: And one detail keeps coming up with these women, They
22:14
say Jack would always insist on binding their wrists with
22:17
handcuffs during the encounter.
22:19
Speaker 1: That behavioral quirk perfectly aligns with the faint specific bruising
22:23
patterns found on the wrists of the victims during the autopsies.
22:27
Speaker 2: Furthermore, they finally find a witness who places Jack at
22:30
a crime scene. A woman remembers seeing Jack approach her
22:33
friend hide Marie Hammerer on the night she vanished in Bregance.
22:37
Speaker 1: She describes him clearly, and she specifically remembers he was
22:41
wearing a distinct brown leather jacket.
22:43
Speaker 2: So between the DNA and the car, the behavioral link
22:46
of the handcuffs, and the eyewitness placing him with the
22:48
first victim in the brown jacket, a judge finally grants
22:51
the task Force a warrant to raid Jack's apartment.
22:54
Speaker 1: They kick the door in, but the apartment is empty.
22:57
Jack is realized the net is tightening and his vanished.
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Speaker 2: But he leaves something behind.
23:02
Speaker 1: The forensic teams tear the place apart. They find the
23:05
brown leather jacket hanging in a closet and they immediately
23:08
bag it, hoping to find microscopic fibers that match the
23:12
foreign fibers found on Heide Marie's body.
23:15
Speaker 2: But as they are searching, a detective pulling apart the
23:18
trash finds a crumpled piece of caper that blows the
23:20
jurisdiction of this case wide open.
23:23
Speaker 1: It's a faded receipt from a seafood restaurant, but it's
23:26
not from Austria or Germany.
23:27
Speaker 2: No, it's from Malibu, California.
23:29
Speaker 1: Dated nine months prior. The task force realizes their highly intelligent,
23:34
highly mobile serial killer had recently taken a transatlantic vacation.
23:39
Speaker 2: This receipt forces a massive operational shift. Doctor Geiger realizes
23:43
the Austrian police simply do not have the infrastructure, the databases,
23:47
or the historical experience to track a transnational predator of
23:51
this sophistication.
23:52
Speaker 1: They need an agency that specializes in hunting serial killers.
23:55
Speaker 2: So Geiger drives to the US Embassy in Vienna and
23:58
secures a meeting with Julienne sliss Go, an FBI legal attache.
24:02
Speaker 1: He spreads out the files, the crime scene photos and
24:05
the psychological profile. Slisko takes one look at the sheer
24:09
scale of the crimes and immediately establishes a secure line
24:12
to the FBI's criminal profiling unit in Quantico, Virginia.
24:16
Speaker 2: She connects the Austrians with special Agent Greg McCrary. Now,
24:19
McCrary was a foundational figure in the behavioral science unit.
24:23
Speaker 1: He had spent years interviewing incarcerated serial killers to understand
24:26
their psychology.
24:27
Speaker 2: Right yes, and had dedicated his career to applying that
24:30
science to active investigations. So Geiger brief's McCrary and they
24:35
agreed to send the evidence to Quantico for a full
24:37
behavioral workup.
24:39
Speaker 1: But when Geiger mentions the Malibu seafood receipt, Slisko immediately
24:43
sends a high priority telex to the LAPD.
24:45
Speaker 2: You have to picture the technology of the era here.
24:48
There are no instant emails, no shared global cloud databases,
24:51
just of tlex machine loudly printing out a coded message
24:55
from an embassy in Vienna, landing on the desk of
24:58
homicide detectives in Los Angeles.
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Speaker 1: And here's where it gets really interesting. That telex lands
25:03
in front of LAPD Detective Fred Miller. He reads the
25:07
summary from the Austrians. Multiple sex workers strangled with intimate apparel,
25:12
bodies dumped in remote areas.
25:14
Speaker 2: And Detective Miller realizes he is reading the exact operational
25:18
blueprint of an unsolved string of murders that terrorized Los
25:21
Angeles the previous summer.
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Speaker 1: For Miller and his partner Jim Harper, it's a seismic shock.
25:26
They had been working their own local serial killer case
25:28
for eight months, hitting dead end after dead end. Now
25:32
a detective six thousand miles away is offering them their
25:34
prime suspect.
25:35
Speaker 2: The LAPD in the Austrian Task Force start frantically comparing timelines.
25:39
They check flight manifests, rental car agreements, and hotel logs.
25:43
Speaker 1: And they confirmed that Jack Underwigger arrived in Los Angeles
25:45
in early June of nineteen ninety one and stayed until
25:48
mid July.
25:49
Speaker 2: And this is where the sheer, unadulterated psychopathy of Jack
25:53
Underwager crystallizes. His behavior in Los Angeles defies beluff.
25:57
Speaker 1: He checks into the Cecil Hotel right in the heart
25:59
of downtown LA. Now consider his mindset. He is an
26:03
active serial killer on a hunting trip in a foreign country.
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Does he skulk in the shadows.
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Speaker 2: No, he walks directly into the headquarters of the Los
26:12
Angeles Police Department.
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Speaker 1: He goes to the public relations desk, flashes his international
26:17
press credentials and requests to do a ride along in
26:20
a patrol car.
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Speaker 2: It is the ultimate manifestation of hiding in plain sight.
26:25
Speaker 1: He tells the desk sergeant. He's writing a comparative piece
26:27
for a European magazine about the differences in how police
26:30
handle street prostitution in America versus Europe. It's so calculated,
26:35
he asks, can you show me the exact areas where
26:38
the city sex workers operate? And the LAPD, completely unaware
26:42
they are dealing with an Austrian monster, say sure.
26:45
Speaker 2: Hop in They literally drive him through the most active
26:47
red light districts in the city. If you are a
26:50
predator and a sprawling, unfamiliar metropolis like Los Angeles, finding
26:54
vulnerable populations can.
26:55
Speaker 1: Be difficult, so he use the cops to do it
26:57
for him.
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Speaker 2: Yes, Jack utilized the institutional authority of the police force
27:01
to conduct his reconnaissance. He sat in a patrol car,
27:05
protected by armed officers while they pointed out his hunting grounds.
27:08
Speaker 1: It is a level of manipulation and brazenness that still
27:12
stuns behavioral analysts today, and the timeline shows that almost
27:16
immediately after this guided tour, women start dying in Los Angeles.
27:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, The laped files detail three distinct victims that summer.
27:23
Speaker 1: The first is Shannon Exley. She was twenty one years old.
27:26
Last scene near seventh in Main Street, which is terrifyingly
27:30
close to where Jack was staying at the Cecil Hotel.
27:32
Speaker 2: On June twentieth, her body is discovered near a freeway
27:35
exit ramp.
27:36
Speaker 1: The crime scene is brutal. She's found completely new except
27:39
for a T shirt and socks. She had been strangled
27:42
to death using her own bra.
27:43
Speaker 2: And forensic technicians noted drag marks indicating he killed her
27:47
on the pavement and then dragged her body fifty feet
27:50
to conceal it in the brush.
27:51
Speaker 1: But the autopsy of Shannon Exley reveals a critical escalation
27:55
in Jack's psychological pathology, doesn't it It.
27:57
Speaker 2: Does, Unlike the European victims, the medical examiners in Los
28:01
Angeles found biological evidence on her body. They recovered semen,
28:06
so the impotence.
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Speaker 1: That drove the rage in Europe was no longer a factor.
28:10
Speaker 2: It means the psychological triggers were evolving. It's highly complex
28:13
because the DNA was mixed with several other profiles, which
28:16
is common given her profession. But the prisence of Seamen
28:20
linked to the timeline of the murder indicates that the
28:23
extreme violence, the act of ligature strangulation itself was becoming
28:27
eroticized for him.
28:28
Speaker 1: So the line between control, rage and sexual release was blurring.
28:33
Speaker 2: Exactly ten days later, the violence strikes again. Irene Rodriguez
28:37
has found murdered hidden behind a parked tractor.
28:40
Speaker 1: Trailer, again near Seventh in Maine, again strangled with her
28:44
own bra.
28:44
Speaker 2: And two weeks after that, Sherry Long is discovered near
28:46
Malibu the exact same signature LAPD.
28:49
Speaker 1: Detective Harper noted during the asopsy reviews that the ligature
28:52
wasn't just a simple loop. The way the bras were
28:54
tied around the victim's necks as was incredibly intricate, requiring time, focus,
28:59
and specific mechanical process.
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Speaker 2: That detail about the notts becomes the lynchpin of the
29:04
entire global investigation. In August of nineteen ninety two, doctor
29:09
Geiger and the Austrian team fly to the FBI Academy
29:12
in Quantico, bringing twelve heavy boxes of crime scene photos, autopsies,
29:16
and reports.
29:17
Speaker 1: When they sit down with FBI profiler Greg McCrary, he
29:20
institutes a strict methodological rule blind profiling.
29:24
Speaker 2: McCrary looks at the boxes and tells the Austrians do
29:27
not show me the suspect file. Do not tell me
29:29
his name, his background, or what he does for a living.
29:32
Speaker 1: Why would an investigator actively refuse information about the prime suspect?
29:36
I mean, doesn't more information usually help?
29:39
Speaker 2: Because McCrary is applying the rigorous scientific method to behavioral analysis,
29:44
human beings are deeply susceptible to confirmation bias.
29:47
Speaker 1: Oh I see if McCrary reads of the suspect is
29:50
a convicted murderer who had a traumatic childhood and is
29:53
now a famous, arrogant writer, his brain will unconsciously start
29:57
interpreting the crime scene photos to fit that specific narrative.
30:00
Speaker 2: Exactly. By isolating himself from the suspect data, he ensures
30:03
his behavioral deductions are derived purely from the objective evidence
30:06
left at the scenes.
30:07
Speaker 1: He spends a week locked in a room with just
30:10
the victimology and the crime scene photos from two continents.
30:13
He maps the behavior he's looking for, the signature right.
30:15
Speaker 2: With the unnecessary ritualistic actions the killer takes to satisfy
30:19
his psychological needs, which remain consistent regardless of the geography.
30:23
Speaker 1: After his analysis, McCrary presents his profile to the task force.
30:27
He deduces the offender as highly intelligent, mobile, and organized.
30:31
He approaches victims surreptitiously, likely using a veneer of authority
30:36
or charm.
30:37
Speaker 2: Most importantly, he determines the killer is driven by an
30:40
intense need to humiliate his victims to compensate for his
30:43
own feelings of inadequacy, deliberately arranging their bodi's post mortem
30:48
to exert total dominance.
30:50
Speaker 1: When McCrae finishes, the Austrian psychologist Tom Muller just nods.
30:55
The behavioral profile drawn from the blood and dirt of
30:57
crime scenes perfectly describes the Paul celebrity journalist Jack Unterwager.
31:02
Speaker 2: But in a court of law, a psychological profile is theoretical.
31:05
A defense attorney can argue it's just an educated guess.
31:08
Speaker 1: To secure a conviction that spans multiple jurisdictions, they need empirical,
31:13
physical proof that links the crimes in California to the
31:17
crimes in Europe.
31:18
Speaker 2: And that's where things get complicated.
31:20
Speaker 1: Wait, I'm stuck on the physical evidence aspect. The LAPD
31:23
has victims strangled with bras the Austrians have victims strangled
31:27
with pantihose. They're fundamentally different garments. How does a forensic
31:31
scientist look at a bra in Los Angeles and definitively
31:35
prove it was tied by the exact same hands that
31:38
tied pantiose in Vienna? If I tie my shoes, it's
31:42
just a loop. What makes a knot a verifiable signature?
31:46
Speaker 2: That is where Lynn Harold, a brilliant criminalist with the
31:48
Los Angeles Sheriff's Department, changed the course of the case.
31:51
She specialized in trace evidence and knots okay. When she
31:55
examined the ligatures from both continents, she realized the killer
31:58
wasn't just tying a knot. He was engaging in a
32:00
highly complex ritualistic dismantling and reconstruction of the garments.
32:05
Speaker 1: Break down the biomechanics to what he was actually doing,
32:07
because this is where the science gets terrifyingly precise.
32:10
Speaker 2: Harold discovered that before the killer ever wrapped the garment
32:13
around a neck, he physically altered it with the bros
32:16
in Los Angeles. He didn't use the cups or the
32:19
straps as they were. He meticulously stripped the elastic banding
32:22
off the garment, and he always stripped it exclusively from
32:25
the left side.
32:26
Speaker 1: He used that removed strip of elastic to create a
32:29
primary cord. Okay, but pantehose in Europe don't have that
32:32
kind of thick elastic banding, So how does a mechanic translate.
32:35
Speaker 2: That's the genius of Harold's discovery. In Europe, faced with
32:39
a different material, the killer adapted to achieve the exact
32:43
same mechanical result. He would take one leg of the pantyhose,
32:46
fold it back entirely upon itself to create a third
32:50
distinct segment of material.
32:52
Speaker 1: Wow.
32:52
Speaker 2: He would then use those three segments to weave a
32:54
complex multi strand braid, essentially manufacturing a heavy rope out
32:59
of thin nylon.
33:00
Speaker 1: So, whether he is stripping elastic from a bra or
33:02
double backing panty hose, he is engaging in a highly
33:05
specific manufacturing process before he even ties.
33:08
Speaker 2: The knot exactly, and the final knot used to secure
33:11
the ligature was identical in its complex architecture across all
33:15
the victims.
33:16
Speaker 1: So it's not just a knot, it's a whole process, right.
33:18
Speaker 2: Harold presented this to the FBI, explaining the statistical probability
33:22
if you take three random murderers and hand them a
33:25
piece of clothing to strangle someone. The mathematical odds that
33:29
all three of them would independently invent this exact multi
33:32
step process of stripping, braiding, and tying is functionally zero.
33:37
It is a behavioral fingerprint.
33:40
Speaker 1: Armed with this forensic certainty, the FBI turns to their
33:43
technological heavy artillery. They input the intricate details of the knots,
33:47
the victim profiles, and the staging into.
33:50
Speaker 2: VCaP, the Violent Criminal Apprehension Program. By nineteen ninety two,
33:55
VCaP was an advanced centralized database designed to identify serial
33:59
crime patterns across disparate jurisdictions.
34:01
Speaker 1: They don't just search for strangulation, They run an algorithmic
34:04
query utilizing fifteen distinct cross criteria in putting everything from
34:09
the specific knots to the missing biological evidence and the
34:12
geographic proximity to water.
34:13
Speaker 2: The VCaP computers churn through thousands of national and international records,
34:17
and forty eight hours later, the database produces a definitive link.
34:21
Speaker 1: It statistically correlates all eleven unsolved homicides across Czechoslovakia, Austria,
34:26
and California as the work of a single serial offender.
34:30
Speaker 2: McCrear takes the ViCAP output and physically overlays Jack Unterwegger's
34:33
known travel itinerary on top of the murder timeline. Every
34:37
single data point aligns perfectly.
34:39
Speaker 1: Jack is in Prague, a woman is braided with stockings.
34:42
Jack is in Los Angeles. Three women are stripped of
34:45
elastic and tide. As McCrary told the task force, either
34:48
Jack Untererwegger is the most astronomically unlucky tourist in human history,
34:53
or he is the killer.
34:54
Speaker 2: The FBI had provided the Austrian authorities with the scientific
34:57
and statistical armour they needed ediately secure an international arrest.
35:02
Speaker 1: Warrant, but Jack, having fled his apartment before the raid,
35:05
is now a fugitive and he hasn't run alone. He
35:08
used his immense charm to convince an eighteen year old
35:11
waitress named Bianca Morac to go on the run with him.
35:14
Speaker 2: She was dazzled by his celebrity, and he told her
35:16
they were just escaping the oppressive media attention. They flee
35:19
across borders, moving from Europe to North America.
35:22
Speaker 1: But even while actively hunted by international law enforcement, Jack's
35:26
narcissism compels him to keep playing games with the public.
35:30
Speaker 2: He's incredibly arrogant. While hiding out in Paris, he actually
35:34
calls into live Austrian television talk shows.
35:37
Speaker 1: He's doing phone interviews as a fugitive, utilizing those Darvu
35:41
tactics again. He tells the hosts, I am innocent. I
35:45
am fleeing because the incompetent police are trying to frame
35:48
me to cover up their own failures.
35:50
Speaker 2: He is attempting to negotiate the terms of his surrender
35:53
on live television. He tells them he will return and cooperate,
35:56
but only if they publicly retract the arrest warrant.
35:59
Speaker 1: First genuinely believes his intellect and his fame are powerful
36:03
enough to force the government to bend to his rules.
36:06
Speaker 2: That the FBI and the Austrians aren't playing as media game.
36:09
They focus on the logistics of a fugitive on the run.
36:12
Doctor Geiger realizes that an eighteen year old girl traveling
36:15
with the wanted man is going to get homesick or
36:17
at least need resources, so.
36:19
Speaker 1: He visits Bianca's mother and applies immense psychological pressure.
36:23
Speaker 2: He lays out exactly what Jack is capable of, convincing
36:26
the mother that her daughter is traveling with a monster.
36:30
The mother breaks and admits that the couple has been
36:32
wiring her for money.
36:33
Speaker 1: They had moved from Paris to New York, and the
36:36
most recent request for funds came from Florida.
36:38
Speaker 2: Geiger tells the mother to cooperate the moment they call again.
36:42
A few days later, Jack calls asking for cash to
36:44
be wired to a specific Western Union in Miami.
36:47
Speaker 1: The mother immediately alerts the task force. When Jack and
36:50
Miaka pull up to the Western Union to collect the
36:52
wire transfer, a tactical team of US marshals swarms the vehicle.
36:56
Speaker 2: They rip Jack from the car and his international reign
36:59
of time herror ends on a sweltering Miami pavement.
37:03
Speaker 1: But capturing him creates an immediate, highly complex legal standoff.
37:08
He is sitting in a Florida jail cell. The state
37:10
of California desperately wants to prosecute him for the three
37:13
LAPD murders.
37:14
Speaker 2: The nation of Austria, whose laws allow them to try
37:17
their citizens for crimes committed anywhere globally, demands his extradition
37:21
for the bulk of the killings.
37:22
Speaker 1: Jack realizes he has an opportunity here. He can hire
37:26
lawyers to fight the extradition process, tying up the American
37:29
and Austrian legal systems for years, keeping himself in the
37:32
spotlight while safely sitting in a cell.
37:35
Speaker 2: The LAPD recognizes this strategy and detectives. Miller and Harper
37:39
decide to deploy a brutal, highly effective psychological tactic. They
37:44
travel to Miami and walk into the interrogation room with Jack.
37:47
Speaker 1: They understand they are dealing with a malignant narcissist. Narcissists
37:51
do not feel guilt for others, but they possess an
37:54
overwhelming sense of self preservation.
37:56
Speaker 2: They value their own existence above everything else.
38:00
Speaker 1: Detected to sit down and tell Jack, if you fight extradition,
38:02
you will stay in our jurisdiction. We will try you
38:04
in California for three counts of premeditated murder. We will
38:07
convict you, and when we do, the State of California
38:10
will put you in the gas chamber.
38:11
Speaker 2: They target his absolute, deepest fear, determination of his own life.
38:15
The threat of the death penalty shatters his composure entirely.
38:19
Speaker 1: He immediately signs the deportation papers, waving his rights to
38:23
fight extradition. He agrees to be sent back to Austria.
38:26
Fully aware that the absolute maximum penalty under Austrian law
38:31
is a life sentence.
38:32
Speaker 2: He calculates that he can survive in Austrian prison, perhaps
38:35
even write another book, and charm his way out a
38:37
second time.
38:37
Speaker 1: He arrives back in Vienna to face a massive eleven
38:40
count murder indictment. The trial begins in the city of
38:43
Graz in nineteen ninety four, and it is a media
38:46
spectacle on a scale Austria had rarely seen LAPD.
38:49
Speaker 2: Detective Harper, who flew over to provide testimony, later compared
38:53
the atmosphere to the Oj Simpson trial in America. The
38:56
courthouse was besieged by international press.
38:58
Speaker 1: And incredibly back still had factions of the cultural elite
39:02
loudly defending him. Convinced this was a massive state conspiracy
39:05
against a rehabilitated artist.
39:07
Speaker 2: The prosecution faced a monumental challenge. The Austrian legal system
39:11
utilizes a three judge tribunal for cases of this magnitude,
39:15
and despite the incredible investigative work, the prosecution's physical evidence
39:19
was still remarkably thin.
39:20
Speaker 1: They had the single hair route matching Blanca Bokova from
39:23
the sold car. They had the microscopic fibers on Jack's
39:27
leather jacket matching hydebury hammer and they had this seaman
39:31
recovered from Shannon Exley in Los Angeles, which Jack's defense
39:35
team aggressively attacked because of part of a mixed DNA sample.
39:38
Speaker 2: To convict him on the remaining eight murders, the prosecution
39:41
had to rely almost entirely on the behavioral and forensic
39:44
analysis compiled by the FBI and the LAPD.
39:47
Speaker 1: FBI agent Greg and Crarry takes the stand and delivers
39:51
a master class in behavioral profiling to the tribunal. He
39:54
meticulously walks the judges through the signature of the crimes.
39:57
Speaker 2: He explains the psychological mechanism of Bitts driving the rage,
40:01
the behavioral linkage of the handcuffs, and the deliberate post
40:04
mortem humiliation of the bodies.
40:06
Speaker 1: But the pivotal moment of the trial is the testimony
40:08
regarding the knots. Lynn Herald's analysis is presented to the court,
40:12
detailing the intricate biomechanics of stripping the elastic and double
40:16
backing the nylon.
40:18
Speaker 2: Jack's defense team tries to shred this argument. They stand
40:21
up and argue that you cannot compare American bras to
40:24
European pantyhose. They claim the garments are fundamentally different, so
40:28
the crimes must be unrelated.
40:30
Speaker 1: But the prosecution, backed by the scientific data, systematically dismantled
40:35
the defense. They demonstrated that the varying materials actually proved
40:40
the behavioral link.
40:41
Speaker 2: The killer was so committed to his specific ritualistic manufacturing
40:45
process that he forced different materials to conform to his methodology.
40:50
Speaker 1: They presented the statistical probability that two different men on
40:54
two different continents independently invented this exact method of ligature construction,
41:00
moving to the judges that the odds were astronomically impossible.
41:03
Speaker 2: The trial grinds on for two and a half months. Finally,
41:06
on June twenty eighth, nineteen ninety four, the tribunal reaches
41:09
a decision.
41:10
Speaker 1: They find Jack Underwigger guilty of nine counts of murder.
41:13
The remaining two victims were simply too decomposed to establish
41:16
the necessary forensic links beyond a reasonable doubt.
41:20
Speaker 2: The verdict carries a mandatory life sentence with zero possibility.
41:23
Speaker 1: Of parole, which brings us back to the chilling promise
41:27
Jack made to the cameras when he was released in
41:29
nineteen ninety. He swore to the world that he would
41:32
never spend another minute of his life locked.
41:34
Speaker 2: In a cage, and he didn't.
41:36
Speaker 1: That very night after the verdict was handed down, Jack
41:40
is placed in his cell. By morning, the guards find
41:43
him dead. But it's the specific mechanics of his suicide
41:48
that provide the final horrifying insight into his mind.
41:51
Speaker 2: He didn't just hang himself.
41:52
Speaker 1: He took the draw string from his prison uniform pants,
41:55
meticulously stripped the nile on a part, and wove a
41:58
complex ligature. He is the exact same intricate knot that
42:01
he had used to strangle his victims to end his
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own life.
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Speaker 2: If we connect this to the bigger picture, we have
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to look at the psychology of this final act. When
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a normal person contemplates suicide in prison, it is often
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driven by a crushing weight of remorse, guilt over the
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pain they've caused, or a deep depression regarding their future.
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Speaker 1: So was this Jack finally feeling the weight of nine murders.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely not. For a psychopathic narcissist like Jack Unterwager, remorse
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does not exist. His suicide was an act of supreme defiance.
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Speaker 1: He had spent his entire life manipulating the world to
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maintain absolute control.
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Speaker 2: The guilty verdict meant the state was finally taking that
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control away. They were going to dictate when he ate,
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when he slept, and how he lived for the rest
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of his natural life.
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Speaker 1: So the suicide was a way to steal the narrative back.
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Speaker 2: It was the ultimate assertion of dominance. By utilizing his
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own murderous signature to end his life, he was sending
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a final mocking message to the authorities. He was telling them,
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you didn't defeat me. The justice system didn't kill me.
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I am the only one with the power to decide
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how my story ends.
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Speaker 1: He retained total control over his fate until the very
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last second. It is an incredibly dark conclusion to a
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story that fundamentally altered how international law enforcement operates.
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Speaker 2: The legacy of Jack Unterwigger is that he violently forced
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European authorities out of their isolated jurisdictional silos. He proved
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that a sophisticated serial killer is not a uniquely American phenomenon,
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and that geographic borders offer zero protection against a mobile predator.
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Speaker 1: In the aftermath of this case, European agencies rapidly modernized.
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They heavily adopted the FBI's behavioral profiling methodologies and began
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constructing centralized, interconnected databases modeled directly on VCaP to track
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complex crimes across the continent.
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Speaker 2: They realize that in a modernized world, law enforcement agencies
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have to talk to each other or predators will slip
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right through the gaps in the system.
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Speaker 1: But what does this mean for you listening right now?
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We've talked extensively about how society gets conned, and while
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you will likely never cross paths with a transnational serial killer,
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the underlying vulnerability remains relevant every single day.
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Speaker 2: Jack Underwager weaponized a society's highest ideals, their capacity for forgiveness,
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their love of art, their desire for redemption, and use
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them as a shield to commit atrocities.
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Speaker 1: It leaves us with a critical lasting thought to examine.
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In today's hyper connected digital world, physical borders are practically irrelevant,
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and it is easier than ever to manufacture a flawless
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public persona. We've spent decades building massive CONFLX databases to
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track the physical movements of dangerous people.
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Speaker 2: But have we developed any psychological defenses against the charm
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and the carefully crafted narratives they use to walk right
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through our front doors.
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Speaker 1: It's a reminder that true vigilance requires looking past the
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polished story and examining the cold, hard mechanics of a
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person's behavior. Something to carefully consider the next time you
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find yourself captivated by a perfect redemption story on your screen.
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Thank you for joining us on this deep dive into
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the source material. Stay curious, keep questioning the narratives around you,
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and will see you next time.