Latest / Pastor John Piper's answers / Can Pro-Life Advocates Lie to Save Lives?
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- 0:04Pretty heavy topic today. Can we lie? Can we lie to women who
- 0:10are seeking abortions if by lying we increase the likelihood of saving the baby's life.
- 0:18When this question came in, it immediately grabbed my attention. It's a
- 0:22question from an anonymous woman. Pastor John, Hello, and thank you for
- 0:24this podcast. I work in a crisis pregnancy center in a small community in
- 0:29the Bible Belt, helping meet the needs of pregnant women and single mothers.
- 0:33Along with providing access to clothing and parenting classes. We also share the glorious
- 0:37message of Christ's work on the Cross for sinners. It is our desire that
- 0:42expecting mothers make the right choice. I know God is sovereign and only the
- 0:45Holy Spirit can make dead hearts come alive to make those right decisions. And
- 0:51this leads to my question. Our clinic has experienced pressure from volunteers and leaders,
- 0:56supported by local pastors to pressure women and couples to save the baby,
- 1:03or else the mother and father will be condemning their child to an eternal hell.
- 1:08For withholding from them a chance to be born, to live, and
- 1:14to accept Christ as their savior. You have made a strong case the babies
- 1:19who die or who are killed are saved. I'm thinking of Abj's five fourteen
- 1:25and six eighty four. The theology I hear in the clinic is wrong,
- 1:27and I think others in the clinic know it's wrong too. I have come
- 1:32now to believe that this is an intentionally manipulative scare tactic, and anything goes
- 1:38approach to the goal of saving lives. And that's my question for you.
- 1:42Is it permissible to intentionally scare and manipulate mothers with untrue doctrine if it increases
- 1:49the likelihood that a baby will live? If this question or simply a yes
- 1:56and no question with no other implications, probably skip it, say Tony,
- 2:01let's just move on, because nobody wants to listen to an episode where I
- 2:06say no next question. But that is my short answer, namely no.
- 2:14No. It's not permissible from a Biblical point of view, from a Christian
- 2:19point of view, it is not permissible to intentionally scare and manipulate mothers with
- 2:25untrue doctrine in order to increase the likelihood that a baby will live. No.
- 2:32And I'm not just focusing on the scare and manipulate part. That's bad
- 2:38enough. When I say no, I'm mainly focusing on the use of untrue
- 2:46doctrine doctrinal falsehoods lies in the service of a guess as to whether a child's
- 2:58life will be saved. In other words, I'm saying no to making a
- 3:06practice of lying about sacred things in order to increase, according to our own
- 3:13human guesswork, the possibility that a child would not be aborted. I'm saying
- 3:19no to that. But the reason I'm willing to say more about this question
- 3:25rather than just know, is that there are wider cultural implications behind that question.
- 3:34As I hear it, this practice of bending or marginalizing or flatly contradicting
- 3:44serious biblical moral considerations in a human invented so called life saving strategy has taken
- 3:53root in American Christianity in recent years with harmful effect, acts which we have
- 4:00scarcely seen the end of. In other words, I don't think this particular
- 4:06practice of compromising moral means to accomplish hoped for good ends is the only case
- 4:15we're facing. So let me try to say something about this kind of strategy
- 4:21against that wider cultural situation. The biblical reality at stake, the biblical reality
- 4:30at the root of the issue is that God is a God of truth.
- 4:35God never lies tied Us one two. Let God be true, though every
- 4:42man a liar Romans three four. And consequentially, his people are people of
- 4:49truth. We are workers for the truth third John one eight. We speak
- 4:56the truth with our neighbor for Ephesians four twenty five. We cannot do anything
- 5:03against the truth Tewod Corinthians thirteen eight. We do not lie to one another
- 5:10Colossians three nine. We do not join the devil in his nature, for
- 5:16when he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is
- 5:20a liar and the father of lies. John eight forty four. Truth is
- 5:26at the heart of who God is and at the heart of who we are
- 5:31as His people. So a so called life saving strategy built on regular deception
- 5:43is utterly contrary to who God is and who we are as his people.
- 5:50It aligns us with the devil, who is not only a deceiver from the
- 5:56beginning, but also a murderer. So to think we can borrow the devil's
- 6:02strategy of deception to save life is going to backfire, and we are going
- 6:11to be found serving his purposes, not God's. Now, add to this
- 6:16basic truth about God, and his people, the Biblical abhorrence of doing evil
- 6:25that good may come, In other words, coming up with human strategies that
- 6:31involve moral compromise in order to pursue human guesses that more good will come that
- 6:40way. The Bible opposes that presumption. For example, the apostle Paul defending
- 6:50himself against that very accusation in Romans three to five, following, if our
- 6:57unrighteousness serves to show good God's righteousness, what should we say that God is
- 7:03unrighteous to inflict wrath on us? I speak in a human way, by
- 7:09no means, For then how could God judge the world. But if through
- 7:15my lie, God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being
- 7:20condemned as a sinner? And why not do evil that good may come?
- 7:29As some people slanderously charge us with, saying their condemnation is just wow.
- 7:40When people accuse Paul of teaching that we may do evil that good may come,
- 7:46he's angry and he says, let them be condemned. That's serious.
- 7:53Later in Romans six, he asks are we to continue in sin that grace
- 7:59may abound? And his answer is not just know. His answer is that
- 8:03it contradicts the very nature of who we are as new creatures in Christ,
- 8:07How can you die to sins still live in it? In other words,
- 8:13new creatures in Christ trust God with the outcomes of walking in Christian integrity and
- 8:22holiness. We trust God with the outcomes. Christians should not do evil that
- 8:28good may come. It's a lack of faith. We should not embrace evil
- 8:35practices or evil people in the vain hope that such compromises will advance human created
- 8:43strategies for doing good. It is virtually certain that our duplicity will be exposed,
- 8:54indeed shouted from the housetops, and when it is, the undermining of
- 9:01Christian integrity may send more people to hell and more babies to the dumpsters than
- 9:09if we had spoken the whole truth, lived consistent lives of radical Christian integrity,
- 9:18loved others, made sacrifices and been willing to suffer, and prayed earnestly.
- 9:24I think that one of the great needs of the hour is for Christians
- 9:31to stop compromising our biblical faithfulness by using the weapons of the world in the
- 9:39service of strategies that we think are more likely to do good. Because we
- 9:43have calculated that compromise will work. Here's a closing admonition from paul In to
- 9:52Corinthians ten three. Though we walk in the flesh, we are not waging
- 10:00war according to the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare are not of
- 10:05the flesh, but have divine power to destroy strongholds. God is able to
- 10:15make consistent, humble, trusting, sacrificial obedience have vast soul saving, life
- 10:24giving effects beyond all our human calculations of what good may come through compromise,
- 10:33pointed words. Thank you, Pastor John, and that Romans three eight text
- 10:37is worth a lot of reflection. Why not do evil that good may come?
- 10:43That text came up another time on this podcast and another episode on abortion
- 10:46of all Places in APJA six eighty four. That episode was about if all
- 10:52babies go to heaven? Why oppose abortion? And you can find that one
- 10:56APJA six eighty four at askpastor John dot com very much related on the other
- 11:01side of the spectrum to this question. Thank you, Pastor John, and
- 11:05thanks for joining us today. If you want to ask Pastor John, type
- 11:09out your question, even your most sensitive question, and email it to me
- 11:13at ask Pastor John at Desiring Good dot org. Feel free to make it
- 11:16anonymous. If the question or your situation requires it, we always honor that.
- 11:20Of course, I'm your host, Tony Rank. You have a wonderful
- 11:22weekend, and we'll see you back here on Monday.