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STAR WARS: AHSOKA · May The Review Be With You

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So you had a better brain. Why aren't you jumping up and down.
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I've never admitted this before. It aren't because I'm smart enough to acknowledge a
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compliment. That's a good point. So the brain ain't that good? Right?
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No? Good? Hello, and welcome to May the Review be with
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You with Nick and Joe. I'm Joe, I'm Nick, and today we
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are talking about Disney Plus series, a Star Wars series. Ahsoka. A
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lot to talk about here, and I think it's fitting that I think we're
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a little over a year of casting on made the Review be with you,
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right, And we started this with Obi one the series, and yeah,
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we did. That was our That was our first series that we covered.
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Right here we are the second time. Despite the fact that our name is
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Star Wars Inspired. This is only the second Star Wars property we've covered,
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I know. And how funny is that we got like we just got a
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little tired of the Star Wars stuff. So we we were just and Marvel
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hit it so hard the last year at the beginning that we really have for
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better or worse, for better or worse, but we had this and we
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were into it, so we were like, we're just gonna do Marvel and
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yeah, I'm so glad that we're coming back to Star Wars with Ahsoka because
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it's like we'll talk about it. I loved it for the most part.
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I did as well, and I think you hit the nail of the head
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there. We were both kind of exhausted, I think with Star Wars stuff.
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Not that not that, like we were getting inundated in the same way
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that like Marvel maybe has with its properties, right, but like it just
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kind of felt like nothing new was happening. And I know that people love
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and Or and I've I've heard nothing but phenomenal things about that. I did
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not jump into that series because I was still exhausted. I'm absolutely going to
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now, yeah, because of how much I love Tohska. So yeah,
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I have renewed faith in Star Wars. Same same here. Renewed faith is
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a good is a good phrase? Mm hmmm. I'm going to let you
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guide us on this episode because you're your Star Wars knowledge is deeper and your
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brain is better. For the record, I consider us both casuals, but
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I I will take the compliment where I can get it. So you had
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a better brain, why aren't you jumping up and down. I've never admitted
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this before. It aren't because smart enough to acknowledge a compliment. That's a
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good point. So the brain ain't that good? No good, Okay.
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So I want to start with initial thoughts on this show. So I went
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into this show kind of lootwarm on the subject. You know, I like
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Rosario Dawson as Ahsoka from what we saw in Mandalorian, and I thought she'd
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probably be great. But I also knew that this show was going to And
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if there are Star Wars fans who hear this and I trigger them, I
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am so sorry. I mean nothing personal by this. I am not a
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big fan of Star Wars Rebels. I think that Star Wars Rebels has some
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really cool ideas in it, some really cool plots, but overall, I
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think a lot of the character choices and the dialogue drives me insane. So
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when I found out this show is gonna be largely driven with Star Wars Rebels
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characters, I was not too thrilled. Man was I glad to be wrong.
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This was a delight from start to finish, and it ended in a
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really interesting way that I think will keep people coming back to this series.
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But Nick, I know that you don't have a lot of knowledge on Star
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Wars Rebels. How was that for you coming into this series? Like my
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knowledge of Star Wars Rebels is I think maybe I tried to watch it like
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a very very long time ago, and I made it like three episodes,
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and I just the animated stuff for me is so difficult, so I typically
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stay away from it. And I tried Star Wars Rebels didn't work whatever.
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So I come into this show like totally green. I have no clue any
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of the stories, backstories, don't I don't know anything, Like I wasn't
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even sure. I had to ask you when this show even like takes place,
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like when does it fit into the timeline? Like, I had no
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clue, And I think that that was like an advantage because they did from
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my perspective, they did a really good job kind of getting up to speed
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and explaining what was kind of happening in the world. And so yeah,
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from that perspective, I didn't really have any issues with following or knowing what
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was going on, right, And for me, I'm like, obviously we're
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big Star Wars fans, but I'm not so like Gung Ho on the you
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know, by the book like, this is the order of things, and
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you know, this fits with what happened, you know, twenty years earlier,
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and all these like I'm not nitpicking on certain situations or certain things.
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So I'm really just like I want to enjoy the show and the characters in
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the plot, and you know, typically they try to make things fit with
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what's happening, you know, in the overall universe, but sometimes it's just
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they're creating so many different stories now that it's not it's a little hard to
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make everything perfect. So I really enjoyed the characters in this it was phenomenal.
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So to talk about each epic, I mean we could, we could
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talk about each episode, but I think to make this easier, I think
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there's one episode we should talk about in depth, and that's the last episode.
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But before we get to that, let's talk about things about the show
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in general that we really liked. What was you were talking about the characters
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that you really liked was who is your favorite character? I think I believe
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I know who it is. Yeah, Baylen Skull is the greatest Star Wars
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character of all time. He's the best. He's he's the best, and
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I'm very sad that we only get to see Ray Stevenson play him in this
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series because he is uh so, yeah, the greatest character, the character
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of all time and Star Wars history. I decided Baylan Skulls they perfect,
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He's perfect. I'm so sad they have to recast him now because he's so
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He's such a cool character that you have, Like they can't just get rid
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of him. And obviously he has some his journey might be the most important
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one, Like we don't even I mean maybe in the Rebels lore we know
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where it leads, but right now we have no clue what's going to happen
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next, and like it just seems like more interesting and important than we realize.
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And I'm just like I can't wait. I think if if you have
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if you have knowledge of Clone Wars or Rebels, like maybe you have,
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like you can create a good theory of what he's doing. But like,
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truthfully, like we we don't know he's he's doing some like really mystic stuff.
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I'm really interested to see where exactly what's going, But we'll get to
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that. I totally agree with you. Ray Stevenson kills that role. Yeah,
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it really was. He brings that role to life. There we go.
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Yeah, it's Almos Wars moving on. He really just was a basic
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though. You and I talked about it before casting this that we were just
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kind of enamored with his performance. He just has a way of just kind
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of like sucking you into his scene, right, He's so good. I
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think the there was one particular moment where I was like just sold on this
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character. I think it's in episode four where he makes the deal with Sabine
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to come with them on board the ship into the other galaxy in exchange for
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the navigator, right, and she hands it over. His apprentice attacks her
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and like he actually like holds her back and he's like, no, I
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gave her my word, and like I meant it. This is a character
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of conviction. He's not like Looney Tunes evil dark Jedi with integrity. It's
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like crazy right right, It's like, you know, a dark Jedi I
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can get behind really fascinating agenda. Like he's playing like with his own deck.
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Really, you know, he's not serving anybody. He just his interests
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just happened to align with other people and he just makes it work. I
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think a character like that is fascinating. I was going to ask you did
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you have a scene that stood out to you as a favorite in the first
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five episodes? Oh, my goodness, it's now I have to like think
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sorry, I'm asking you to think. Yeah, man, we just talked
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about Balen, So the only things that are coming in my head are or
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like Balan scenes, because he just has these one liners, not even these
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one word one liners that are just like perfectly placed place you know, it's
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just like uh man, but some other ones. Oh, it's not really
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a scene. But I was thinking about this watching the last episode yesterday.
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What was the like, I feel like there was no reason for Sabine to
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cut her hair, so what was the symbolism there there? There isn't someone
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can argue with me about that. I don't think there was symbolism technically.
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I think that this was fan service. So that that's when she cuts her
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hair, she looks more a keen akin to her character in Rebels, Like
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she looks more like her original self, which, like, if that's the
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case, why not just start her that way? Right? Yeah? Because
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like I mean, you know, anytime you have like a moment like that,
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that's always supposed to be symbolic of like change, right, right,
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But I don't, at least for me. Yeah, there was no change
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that had taken place with her in that moment, right unless unless there's an
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argument of, you know, she's more open to the force in that moment
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or something. But I didn't get that. It didn't land stretch, Yeah,
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it didn't land if that was the case. Yeah, that that to
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me, Like there was really only like maybe two or three things throughout the
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whole show that I was like, why they do that? And then there
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was one big thing where I was like, oh no, this show was
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great until this moment. And you you probably know exactly what I'm talking about,
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especially not sure it's after the fifth episode. I think it was the
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sixth episode, maybe the end of the sixth episode when they are about to
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leave the galaxy there in I'm talking about the whales. I'm talking about the
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damn whale transportation device. You don't like the whales, dude, I love
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the whales. I didn't say I hated the whales. I hated the concept
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that they use the whales for time traveling, so they're not galaxy hopping whales.
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How is that better than time traveling whale? Either way, it's ridiculous.
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First of all. Is it ridiculous, Yes, but so is Star
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Wars. Star Wars is this is the problem with why do they fight with
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lightsabers? Technology tells us that we get as technological issues happened. We keep
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ourselves separated from our enemies. We don't get closer as we have more technology.
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That's silly, but that's humique. That makes sense. I'm talking about.
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You know, it's bad when you watch a series and a story like
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Star Wars that has a million different things that are possible, and when you
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go, oh, no, what's happening. That's a bad sign. The
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force works. It was mysterious ways. Don't give me that yet. That
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is the explanation. Yes, yes it does. Listen, I didn't hate
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the whales. I accepted them very quickly. I just wished like they could
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have just done something else with them transporting getting transported. I just I'm assuming
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the whales bring them back and the next season, right, I mean,
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I don't know, because I mean there's there's gotta be a whale if there's
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gotta be aft. That was actually my favorite use of the whales is when
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they when they're in when they get into orbit, right and and you know,
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they start receiving fire from the enemy. Yeah, and I think it's
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a hu yang is like, ah, good thing. The whales are providing
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cover and at that exact moment, for like strictly comedic purposes, the whales
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bounce. They're like, you know what, Nope, we're out of here.
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I love that. I love that the whales were like, we did
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not sign up for a war by we did our job. We brought you
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here. Yeah, you guys figure this out. So ridiculous. They actually
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did say one thing about the whales that I was like, I don't think
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you should have said that, because you're that was unnecessary and now it ties
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you to this and only raises more questions because they said that the whales only
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come here when they're prepared to die, right, which, like we see
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that graveyard, which, by the way, that was amazing, amazing visualization.
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That was wild, so cool. That was well done. Yeah yeah,
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but like we we know that the whales have made this journey beyond going
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there to die, which they did in this show, and they do in
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rebels. That's the so the whales are originally from rebels. I forgot if
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you picked up on that or not. Didn't pick up on that I was
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did either way, it's ridiculous, it's ridiculous. Either way it's it's ridiculous.
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So the way it goes down is ez there is in Dron's ship and
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the whales like overtake them, and the whale was like grab the ship basically,
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and like they start dragging it away and they jump into a galaxy far
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far away, which is how they end up there. It's actually scene speaking
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of galaxy far far away. We're we're about to just we're just hopping around
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here. I saw something online about Huayang when he was telling the story when
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they were on their way and when they're in the whales, and was it
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in the whale or when they were on their way in the whale. Ahsoka
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asks him to tell a story and he starts with in a galaxy far far
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away. Someone on Instagram was like, wait, is the whole Star Wars
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universe just him telling the story? And I was like, I do like
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that. That would be so cool because he's like old as ship, So
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what do you say that he is really old? But I went to a
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different place with that. I'm pretty sure it's wrong. But when I saw
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what the episode was called, and then Huyang says that in a galaxy far
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far away, and we realize where they're going. I was like, oh
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my god, is the galaxy that's far far away us? Is that our
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galaxy that they're going to? Because like from our perspective, like they were
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the ones that were far far away, right, But based on the planet,
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I don't think that that's accurate. Yeah, and I'm not ready for
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a Marvel Star Wars crossover event. Oh get ready for it, baby Disney,
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Disney, We'll have cake and eat it too. I don't think the
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world is ready nor deserves that that's that crossover event. I anyway agree.
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So for me, my probably my favorite scene that sticks out to me the
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moment where like my mouth like dropped. I was not expecting Soca to end
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up in the space between spaces and for that moment with Anakin. Uh that
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was Oh so is that that the fifth episode that that happened? I think
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it's the fourth episode? Okay, all right, wait, that's episodes.
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There's six or eight. There's six or eight? Eight? Okay, so
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that is the fifth episode, you're right, Okay, yeah, that makes
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sense. I think five? Right? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that
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was those were like my favorite scenes in the whole show with Anakin and and
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uhh, Soka like that was awesome, especially seeing like Anakin like flip between
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Anakin and basically you know, Darth Vader were like, yeah, really cool
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scenes and like getting a little backstory too, right, because you found out
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earlier in the show that Ahsoka's is that her master was Anakin, which like,
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you know, we never we never know like in the you know,
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in the in the and they have the trilogy, the prequel, sure,
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thank you in the prequel trilogy, Like we don't hear about that, right,
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And so anyone who's a Star Wars fan but hasn't watched Rebels or knows
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the Lord too deep, like that was a cool reveal, right, like
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yeah, I thought that was a really good way to do that. Yeah,
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and then we get this whole like backstory with them too when they're when
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she's in the space between spaces and and uh really awesome, super well done.
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Yeah, and for and for those who don't know already and wondering like
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how she's even still like so young or alive like her race, I guess
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is able to live a longer life, typically over two hundred years I believe
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is what I read. So that would that would make sense why she's like,
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you know, not with us and still life to begin with it?
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Uh so, yeah, those are some Those were cool. That is cool.
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Maybe want to watch Clone Wars, which I've never said, you know
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what, I wanted to go Back Wars. I should give Clone Wars another
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chance. So I I have seen most of Clone Wars. Actually I would
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say the vast majority of it's actually pretty good. I meant, I meant
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the movie. Oh you mean you mean Attack of the Clones. I mean
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an Attack of the Clones exactly. Sorry, I should have said Attack of
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the Clones and not Clone Wars. Joe's face is all made to watch.
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I hate, I hate, and I hate. Yeah, everyone does.
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It's it's it's the worst movie. Actually, not enough people do. Some
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people want to pretend will get us crucified and canceled. Some people want to
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pretend that the sequel trilogy is the worst thing that Star Wars has ever made.
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But those people really truly forget how bad Attack of the Clones actually is.
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Yeah, Attack of the Clones was really bad. The only thing good
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about the prequel trilogy is like the last hour and a half of you can
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do this? Come on, I can't do it. Come on, you
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can do it, buddy, I'm having a panic attack. Come on,
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really, dig deep? You got it? Are you turning red? No,
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it's like the weird lighting because I have a stupid ass, fucking I
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need to change my camera view. My head's blocking this. I'm totally blanking
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on the third movie badness. I can't even think of the first movie in
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the prequel trilogy? Are you kidding me? What is the first one called?
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Our podcast is Star Wars inspired? Dick? I haven't. This is
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awful. My brains just completely shut off. The phantom I got it for
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you. Let the record show a fantom bad attack of the clothes and uh
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you know, mm hmmm yeah, something about you know, the Empire,
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the Empire rising. Nope, No, that's not it. The Empire Empire
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seeds itself, dude, I'm totally you gotta say it for me, please,
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I'm trying to make a point. Holy shots, Holy Sith. Anyway,
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the only thing good about the prequel trilogies, the prequel trilogy, the
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only thing good is the last hour and a half of Revenge of the Sith.
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That's the only thing that's good. I want to bounce back to you
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were talking about grapes I've got I've got only a couple of grapes. I
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feel like this show tries to do too much. It's called the Soca,
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but like, you could easily make an argument for it, this is a
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Sabine show, or heck, you could make a freaking argument for like this
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is a Balen Skull show. Maybe a less bit argument, but well,
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you can make a similar argument for Harah. Like there's there's a few different,
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like main characters in this show. Yeah, it's interesting. I wonder
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if they're gonna maybe spin off a couple of these characters on their own,
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right, like because of like because of what you just said, there are
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they do a lot of like story building for each character and in their own
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way and more than maybe normal, right based on what the show title is,
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And so a spinoff for Balen would make sense, especially if he's going
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to be the only person left in that in that galaxy, right, I
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mean, obviously Ahsoka and Sabine are currently stuck there. Well, I have
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to imagine they figure out a way, you know, back to their galaxy.
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But Balin's stand sounds like this is my this is why I'm here looking
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for something, and maybe he's leave but I don't know. I I disagree.
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So the ending, like the way I saw the ending, it feels
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like none of them are leaving anytime soon. Like it kind of feels like
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so what Ahsoka said, uh something along the lines of like where we are,
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where we need to be. We can get more into this when we
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talk about the ending. But like something, there are a couple of things
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that happen in the ending that makes me think, like, ah okay,
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this is like the Force's way of like directing important players, putting them where
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they need to be for like events that are about to transpire, like something
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big is about to happen there, right, And it feels as though the
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Force is pushing certain people to certain directions. So I think if there isn't
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Ahsoka season two, I think that they are spending that season like on that
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planet. Interesting. I like that because it's you know, maybe against what
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you would potentially like think a show would do, right, like leave your
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main character stranded away from where the actual trouble is apparently supposed to be,
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which is back on her original galaxy. Of course Ezra is on that ship,
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so there's still a Jedi that can defend potentially that would be cool.
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I mean, I'm into that totally. I I like that thought process.
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Who else is on? Who's is stuck in that galaxy? It's is besides
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Sabine Ahsoka Balen? Who else is there? So there's also is it Balen's
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Balen's apprentice is there too? Right? She get stuck? Yeah, it's
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a shin right Haiti? Yeah, yeah, she's also there. Her was
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awesome. She was like, like, she is creepy, creepy. Yeah,
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creepy is the word I was looking for. She was creepy, very
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creepy. Im well done, well done, yeah, very She feels more
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Sith like to me than Baalen does. Totally. Balen's you know, obviously
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not supposed to be sith like you said, you called it, he's a
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dark Jedi. Yeah, she's definitely got more Sith characteristics to her. We'll
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see what happens. But she's stuck there too, right, so there is
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there is quite a lot of the well how funny is that? Right?
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The show started with those four in their own galaxy and ends with those four
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in a different galaxy and it ends with the people stuck in the other galaxy
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back in their original galaxy where they weren't in the beginning. Very interesting,
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Uh, it's a great observation. Interesting things technically. Technically, so I
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think we have in the beginning of the first episode, we're introduced to six
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main characters, right, Sabine, Ahska, Balen, Shin, Harah,
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and then also was it Morgan Morgan is the witch? Yeah, Morgan Elzabeth,
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I think, right, yeah, okay, so those are six characters,
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right, and with the exception of Harah, they're all five of like
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the five of six of them are still on that planet at the end of
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this. Yeah, well Morgan's dead, but she's there. If consciousness doesn't
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travel, she's there. She's there. God, that's yeah, that's a
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great observation. They pulled the old switcheroo for sure. Very interesting and throng.
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Character is I don't know, I didn't get like a lot from him.
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He's obviously very smart and tactical, right, you like wanting to know
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everything about Ahsoka, and when he found out that it was that Anakin was
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her master, he was like, Okay, this is how she's going to
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handle trying to keep us from leaving this planet. And like, you know,
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they played it off like he did everything perfectly so that he could leave.
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But I feel like we haven't really seen what kind of like power and
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destruction like he can cause. Right. I agree. I think that this
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was actually one of one of my gripes with the show. It's not a
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huge one, right, So, like Throng is even outside of Rebels,
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Throng is a really famous Star Wars character in the books, in the in
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the Legends lore books, outside the Legends lower and you know, he's known
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for being like ruthless, he's known for being just being able to outsmart all
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of his enemies, right, And I was okay with him not being as
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as cutthroat as normally is. I mean, like he was still a cutthroat,
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right, but like he he seemed like he was scared, Like there
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was an element of him that seemed like he was afraid. And I was
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good with that. I thought that was actually interesting development considering what he's been
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through. And you're right, we did see him be tactical and and he
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does ultimately get away by playing the odds against the heroes, And I think
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that's that's great, But like I just feel like we did not get that
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sense of Throng is the smartest person in the room, you know, right,
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And I I felt like that was a little disappointing. But you know,
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clearly we're gonna get more Throng, which is great, more opportunity for
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that. For sure. I loved how we got but you know, we
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had there were so many Jedis in this show. Like, we had so
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many Jedis, Like there was where we had three doing Jedi stuff. It
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was great. I was like, this is amazing, Like what like I
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wasn't expecting that, you know, like I knew Ahsoka was a Jedi,
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but I had no clue that we were going to get like two more plus
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the dark Jedi and you know, Sith essentially, right, Like, I
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was excellent and and I just loved seeing you know, the blue and the
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green lightsaber and then obviously Ahsoka's double wielding white lightsabers are totally badass, like
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totally badass. Yeah, so many cool Jedi scenes, you know, especially
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because we don't get a lot of those in the Star Wars stuff. Now
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that's TV series, right oriented, So it's, uh, it's cool.
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He's cool. I love the scene too where Ezra is like building himself a
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lightsaber and and then him and and Huyang find out that they have the same
29:47
Uh well yeah, they have a person of interesting person interesting better Yeah,
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connecting, which is cool, Canaan, Ezra's master, very cool character.
29:59
Even man, I keep talking up Rebels and I swear I'm not a fan
30:03
of it, but he's cool. He's cool and Rebels. I won't deny
30:07
that. I think Joseph's a closet Rebels. Man, I don't say that,
30:18
by the way, So you have so much hatred in your heart.
30:22
Genuine a genuine surprise for this show, ultimately for me was so in In
30:32
Clone Wars, I believe it is. Uh, We're first introduced to Yang
30:36
and he's played by David Tennant, which you know is already wonderful. I
30:42
did not think in a million years that when they got this robot to be
30:47
in this show, that David Tennant would be reprising his role as Yang.
30:52
It was just so great to like, I didn't even recognize him for like
30:56
the first like two episodes, and then I think around episode three he sets
30:59
up thing. It was like, I know who that is. Yeah.
31:03
I had no clue, but I looked it up afterwards. You know,
31:07
I was doing some research and I was like, oh, David Tennant,
31:10
I bet Joe loved this clearly, so you did. Yeah, is he
31:15
your doctor? Who? Is here? Is he your doctor who? Yeah?
31:19
No, he's not my doctor. I mean I I'm not a Dave
31:23
Aeutenant doctor hater like some people out there. He's definitely the most popular doctor.
31:29
There are people who like to hate on him because he's the most popular
31:32
doctor, and that's silly. I'm a Matt Smith guy, but I do.
31:37
I do love me some Daved Tenant. Nice. I know we're inchesting
31:42
to talk about the last episode, and we will. I just want to
31:45
address one more thing that we have not addressed yet, and I feel like
31:48
we gotta actually two more things. One of them is quick, though,
31:53
I'll do the quick one. First, we got a I don't want to
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call it a cameo, but like we'll call it some We got a surprise
32:01
of c three po showing up in an episode and getting a Leah organa name
32:07
drop in one particular scene. What do you think of that? I think,
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like initially I was like a little bit like do we have to do
32:15
we have to drop an OG character like every time, you know, I
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mean because we already like granted we didn't know we were gonna get Anakin yet,
32:25
but Anakin. It was more Anakin, which technically is not an OG
32:31
character. The Darth Vader portion is technically I mean, it depends right,
32:37
like you could how you view it, Like, that's a tough that's a
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tough statement. I guess what I just made. It's like totally arguable both
32:45
ways. But the C three PO thing, I was like, I mean,
32:49
they couldn't they couldn't have done anything else here, like any other any
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other way. Honestly, that scene probably doesn't even need to be there,
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like like just just trust you general, like, oh, like what the
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hell? Like it was like, but it was cool. It's cool,
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it's fun. But I don't know if it's necessary. I guess that's really
33:07
what I'm getting at. I didn't hate it or anything. I was just
33:08
like, is it necessary to do this? Because I feel like it's it's
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kind of leaned on too much. It's like, hey, can we drop
33:15
in a C three po or can we get our two de two in here
33:19
real quick? Or whatever? Well, it also makes the world feel smaller
33:22
too, right, Like, yeah, it's a galactic republic, and yet
33:28
we keep running into the same people over and over again, which, like,
33:30
you know, it's that's fine, but I agree with you, like
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ultimately, like the scene doesn't really take us anywhere because that plot line isn't
33:40
really all that important at least for this season. Maybe they're playing some I
33:45
don't know, five D chess and like down the road, like those politics
33:49
are going to be important. I don't know right now. I just feel
33:52
like that it just just like why do you, like, why keep dropping
33:55
Lea's name? You know, I mean, granted we know why because of
33:59
that timeline wise, right, Like she's playing a huge role right now,
34:01
so it makes sense. But I guess you could have had someone else drop
34:05
the name instead of three pl right, Like, yeah, but see three
34:08
pell has been you know, close companion for so long, so it makes
34:14
sense. But yeah, that was nice to see him. But yeah,
34:17
I agree, the scene is not needed and ultimately detracts from what I want
34:23
to see more of, right, yeah, which apparently I love. Yeah,
34:30
because it's your closet Rebels fan. Everyone knows this. You have Rebel's
34:35
characters the only thing I wanted to address before the final episode. I'm gonna
34:39
lump this together, but this is probably going to be more of a Sabine
34:44
focused conversation. What do you think of Sabine and Ezra? I think I
34:49
liked I liked both performances really well. And I was pleasantly surprised on how
34:53
much I liked Ezra because for me, sometimes it's really hard to accept a
34:59
character and new character, even though you've heard about the character for six episodes,
35:05
but you don't meet the character until the last two or so episodes,
35:08
right, Like, sometimes it can be really hard to get the audience to
35:13
like accept how that character is actually portraying being portrayed, right, So I
35:20
thought they did a good job of giving us enough like Ezra talk throughout the
35:23
first parts of the season, so that when he finally was on screen,
35:29
it was like, oh yeah, cool. And then and you they did
35:31
a good job, Like I was like, oh, great, this is
35:32
Ezra, like you know, seems it's weirdly likable very quickly. Right,
35:39
That's that's yeah, that's a great way to say that. He was very
35:42
likable very quickly, which was like a shock to me because like I said
35:45
before, it's very It's not an easy thing to do. So they did
35:50
a great job. He did a great job. As far as their relationship
35:53
goes, I'm like, are they brother and sister? Are they dating?
35:58
Like? What the hell? Like are they gonna like I feel like they're
36:01
just like they're keeping it tense in a weird way. It feels like it's
36:06
more like a tense relationship in case they want to like unpack something else later.
36:10
I don't know what the Rebels storyline is, but in my head,
36:14
I'm like, they're totally gonna like try to get these two to be into
36:16
each other until the very end of the episode of the last episode when he
36:22
sees what's her name was it the general or the the leader of the oh
36:29
Hara? When he sees Hara. Yeah, that interaction was super weird.
36:32
Like I was like, wait, are they dating? Like, were they
36:37
Like I could actually I could give some context of that. Okay, what's
36:39
the context? Yeah? And okay, actually, wow, there's a lot
36:46
of context there if wow. Okay, So as there's an orphan right when
36:52
we meet him in Rebels and he becomes a rebel on board Harrah's ship,
36:58
the Ghost, right, Hara becomes kind of a surrogate mom to him,
37:04
and like that's who she is. She's the captain of that ship, right,
37:07
but like she also is a very maternal figure in his life. And
37:09
then also, if you want to take that step further, his master Canaan,
37:14
who is probably like the paternal figure in his life. He got it.
37:20
Canaan got it on with Harah. Got it? Yeah. And that
37:24
little kid that you saw with Harah, that's Canaan's son. Yeah. So
37:30
like I guess they had like a found family kind of thing going on.
37:34
Yeah, got it. Okay, So there's definitely a Sabinean Ezra storyline potentially
37:38
with more than just friends then, is what it was kind of feeling that
37:43
I've not seen enough of Rebels to confirm that, but like I kind of
37:45
did get that vibe too, that like, this isn't just like a best
37:49
friend thing maybe, right, I mean, we're best friends, and I'm
37:54
not sure I would almost die traveling to another galaxy. I really don't know.
38:01
Man, that was a lot of work for just best friends. Nick.
38:06
Ain't no mountain high enough, ain't no valley low enough, ain't no
38:09
galaxy far far light to keep me from getting to you, you little son
38:17
of a. Now I'm blushing. Pause, pausive show, I need to
38:21
break Yeah, we have fun, we have fun. We have fun here
38:34
goodness all right? I want to just talk about Sabine really quick. This
38:37
easily could have been a Sabine show for as heavily featured as she is,
38:42
and I understand the reason for that is because there is such a focus on,
38:46
uh, the apprenticeship between Sabine and Ahsoka, as well as Ahska to
38:53
Anakin. Right reflecting on will as Sooka make the same mistakes that Anakin made,
39:00
and I think that's a really great idea to focus on. I don't
39:07
know if that's the kind of thing that you want to focus on on a
39:10
show that is supposed to be so character centric. It's for as inferior.
39:16
I feel bad calling an inferior for as lesser of quality as a show as
39:22
obi Wan was. I think obi Wan's fine, for the record, I
39:25
just don't think it's anything to write home about. I think Ahsoka is a
39:30
lot more of an exciting show for a lot with that. Yeah, for
39:34
a lot of reasons, but obi Wan does a really good job of keeping
39:37
the story mostly focused on obi Wan and shows new context. I think the
39:44
only reason why that bothers me is because like what you're promising the viewer,
39:46
right, that's my only grape about it. I really liked the show,
39:52
and even if it explores more than what we bargained for, I liked most
39:57
of what it showed us. So that's pretty good. Yeah, I was
40:00
into it too, And I wonder if part of the reason there is,
40:04
like you know, Ahsoka was very She's not. She's a Jedi of few
40:08
words, right, almost not as few as Balen, But she doesn't have
40:14
like these long monologues and these long teaching stories, right, It's like much
40:19
more like patient and meditative way of speaking. And so I wonder if you
40:23
know, if that's just what her character is in Star Wars Lore, then
40:29
they knew that they had to branch out a little bit more with these other
40:32
characters and tell more of a story solely on them, because a show that
40:37
if the show did focus a ton on Ahsoka, like you were saying,
40:44
it might not have been as you know, high pacelin and interesting the whole
40:46
way, because she's just how that actual character is is created, is not
40:53
that so it kind of in that context that aint so got my thought.
41:01
Man, last episode leaves us with so much to think about, but I
41:07
want to get into first and foremost the Night Sisters and the ritual that goes
41:17
forth with Morgan, where I guess like she's presented with the talisand blade right
41:25
and you know she's like fully initiated with them, so like right away,
41:30
you know, like as soon as the sword comes out, You're like,
41:31
Okay, cool, We're gonna get some sweet lightsaber action here. Yeah.
41:37
The level of mysticism in this episode was so cool. I am all about
41:42
give me more mystic force. I think that's so interesting. Hi. Editor's
41:50
note, this is gonna be a long one. So we had some technical
41:52
difficulties in Riverside. Lost my portion of the recording you were about to hear,
41:58
which is really unfortunate, and I didn't know that until our call was
42:00
already over. We mostly spoke about Sabine's awesome fight choreography incorporating both Jedi and
42:07
Mandalorian fight styles really really cool, and then also the Ahsoka versus Morgan fight
42:14
being one of the best choreographied fights in Star Wars at least one of my
42:17
favorites since the original Anakin Verse Obi Wan fight in Revenge of the Sith.
42:23
I also dropped this bomb on Nick. Diana Lee Incinanto, the actress who
42:29
plays Morgan. She was an absolute beast in this fight and clearly had some
42:35
previous training. I'm assuming the reason she's so good at fighting I fight choreography
42:39
specifically, is because she's the goddaughter of Bruce Lee. Yeah, no joke.
42:45
Cool, right, here's Nick reacting to that factoid. No way,
42:52
I tell whatever I just said was wrong. I definitely don't think I've seen
42:58
her in anything, because I think I would know that. What dude,
43:02
you gotta write a Twitter thread about that. That's cool. You're right,
43:07
Nick, that is cool. Anyways, we spoke more about pmsticism and how
43:10
Balin appears to be standing on the hand of the Father, the physical embodiment
43:15
of the Force while looking into the distance about to start his Fano's quest,
43:19
looking awesome while doing it. Rip Ray Stevenson. As for Ahsoka, here's
43:24
Nick's score on the show. This is gonna be a much higher score than
43:30
our last rating of Secret Invasion, which was the lowest Both of us have
43:32
ever given anything ever and probably will ever give anything ever, man, this
43:39
is up there for me. I'm gonna say eight and a half out of
43:44
ten. I really liked it. I definitely would rewatch it. I'd recommend
43:51
it, and I am looking forward to season two. So this is gonna
43:54
be really awesome, and it's like it's it maybe deserves a higher score because
43:58
it's rejuvenated my interest in what they're doing with Star Wars, which is cool.
44:02
I was, you know, because like we were a little bit burned
44:05
out, So yeah, what about you. I'm not far from him on
44:10
this. I gave an eight great show, and I have renewed faith in
44:15
the series. Next time, we're catching Loki season two, one of Nick's
44:19
favorite properties from Marvel. It's definitely up there for me too. Be sure
44:22
to join us, and thank you so much for listening, and of course,
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may the review be with you. Nick, say the thing peace.