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Mac & Bone Show - Matt Barrie Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Matt Barry ESPN.
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  Speaker 2: He joins is gonna be hosted SEC Nation on the
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  Speaker 2: SEC Network this year too, so that's big for him,
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  Speaker 2: and he joins us here on the Mac and Bone Show, Matt,
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  Speaker 2: what's going on, man?
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  Speaker 1: How you doing? Gentlemen?
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  Speaker 3: Happy football season? How everybody doing?
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  Speaker 1: We're doing great? Brother, I know, good luck to you, Matt.
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  Speaker 4: You not have to be Paul Fivebom's bodyguard when fan
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  Speaker 4: bases are not out him every week.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, there's a lot of people I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna have to take care of this fall between him
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  Speaker 3: and Tebow. We got another rookie in case, Daniel, So
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  Speaker 3: there's gonna be a lot of babysitting with all of
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  Speaker 3: us going on.
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  Speaker 2: But what works out of you got your hands full,
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  Speaker 2: no doubt about it. Well, let's okay, so let's get
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  Speaker 2: this out of the way and then we can get
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  Speaker 2: into actually talking about the teams, because man, we're a
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  Speaker 2: week from week zero, for God's sakes, but this fifth
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  Speaker 2: year eligibility stuff is just insane, Like it might even
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  Speaker 2: be the craziest part yet right of all the mess,
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  Speaker 2: What do you what do you think about? What do
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  Speaker 2: you think about this happening? And you've got guys. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: like I saw Pete Thamil's quote where he says he's
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  Speaker 2: talking to a college football personnel guy that says, I
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  Speaker 2: can't believe I'm doing this. I'm watching last week's week
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  Speaker 2: one of preseason to look at guys that are now
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  Speaker 2: entering the portal like it's just insanity.
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  Speaker 3: Matt Ye had three parts stupidity. I said this of
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  Speaker 3: Sports Center last night. Stupidity Part number one is just
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  Speaker 3: allowing these courtrooms to decide college football. That's just an
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  Speaker 3: absolute joke. Part two, guys that go off to the NFL,
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  Speaker 3: you're gone, you moved on from college. You're out, you
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  Speaker 3: signed with the team, you're in training camp. In part three,
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  Speaker 3: all these coaches and administrators they keep bitching and moaning
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  Speaker 3: about all these changes. Well, it's not hard. Don't sign
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  Speaker 3: the guy that's in the NFL. If it's that big
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  Speaker 3: of a problem for everybody, just don't do it. And
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  Speaker 3: the second people start coming together and saying, hey, we're
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  Speaker 3: against this and maybe it'll calm down a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: and that's the biggest problem, that's the problem with then
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  Speaker 3: you've got these guys complaining like, oh, they're doing well.
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  Speaker 3: Then they'll pay the quarterback four million. Is you're so
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  Speaker 3: against it, quit doing it. And so look this to me,
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  Speaker 3: of all the garbage that's going on in college football
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  Speaker 3: over the past two to three years, this one is
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  Speaker 3: the one that I think could break the system.
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  Speaker 4: I really believe that feels like this one too. A
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  Speaker 4: lot of times we talk about how teflow on this
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  Speaker 4: board is in the fans' eyes. It feels like when
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  Speaker 4: you start to do stuff like this, it's never going
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  Speaker 4: to be dented to the point of people not giving
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  Speaker 4: it ratings and the love that it gets. But man,
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  Speaker 4: this is one where you think this is really good.
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  Speaker 4: If you have guys are in the pros, then they're
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  Speaker 4: throwing out tape. They're throwing out tape for colleges. Now
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  Speaker 4: that's going to cause a rift there with the fans
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  Speaker 4: here at some point, here's here's.
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  Speaker 3: One for you. And and I think people are naive
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  Speaker 3: if they don't believe this for one second. People are saying, well, oh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, twenty twenty two is the last class. Can
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  Speaker 3: then do that? Okay, fine, what have we learned about
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  Speaker 3: the courts? They'll do anything against the NCAA, So what's
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  Speaker 3: stop up? And a guy from twenty twenty one or
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty saying, hey, I was forced out. I technically
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  Speaker 3: have a year of eligibility left. You don't think the
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  Speaker 3: courts are gonna rule it for them? Like there is
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  Speaker 3: no world where I was joking around here stand again
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  Speaker 3: on sports. There's no world where Joe Burrow just gets
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  Speaker 3: bored with the Bengals. He's like, you know what, I
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  Speaker 3: had an extra year left. I was forced out. I'd
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  Speaker 3: be like to go play for Texans.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, you you have two quarterbacks you're working with, Daniel
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  Speaker 4: and Tibau. You might lose one of those guys in
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  Speaker 4: the middle of a segment.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Where does it stop? Where does
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  Speaker 3: it end?
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  Speaker 2: And that you brought it up. It's like it's it's
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  Speaker 2: even the stuff that seems like it makes no sense,
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  Speaker 2: someone can find a judge somewhere to tell you that's
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  Speaker 2: that's okay. You can do that. Even your guy, our
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  Speaker 2: mutual friend Tom Lougan Bill was on College Football Live yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: Matt loosening up his arm, saying, I only played by
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  Speaker 2: four years.
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  Speaker 1: In four years, what's to stop me from somewhere? I'd
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  Speaker 1: like to actually see it out there?
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  Speaker 2: Oh god, all right, let's talk about the games. Let's
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  Speaker 2: talk some college football. Matt Bery ESPN SEC Network is
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  Speaker 2: with us. What do you who do you think is
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  Speaker 2: the class of college football this year? It's like top
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  Speaker 2: give me like top three teams, because I feel like
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  Speaker 2: there's a group of about seven that kind of get
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  Speaker 2: debated pretty heavily, heavely.
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  Speaker 3: Top three probably, Shoot, that's tough for three, but I'd
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  Speaker 3: say you could lump Ohio State and Oregon into one
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  Speaker 3: of them. I think you could put Georgia in Texas
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  Speaker 3: into two of them, and then Notre Dame is three.
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  Speaker 3: I think I think there are about.
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  Speaker 1: Five, so those five equal. Okay, yeah, I.
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  Speaker 3: Think they're pretty equal. I think Miami's gonna be a
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  Speaker 3: problem for a lot of people. But the reason you
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  Speaker 3: say seven is because that's what it is. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: Ohio State got Jeremiah Smith, Julians sayin They've got this
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  Speaker 3: Christianity junior kid that's lighting it up in camp. That's
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  Speaker 3: all well and good, but they also lost eleven guys
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  Speaker 3: to the NFL Draft, seven of them on defense, four
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  Speaker 3: of them in the first thirty picks. And so while
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  Speaker 3: they've got the offensive back and while Ryan Dave reloads.
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  Speaker 3: I'm all in on that. But when you lose four
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  Speaker 3: of your starters on defense in the top thirty and
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  Speaker 3: then seven overall, it's going to take him in to
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  Speaker 3: replace him and get him in. So that's why appoint
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  Speaker 3: to week two at Texas, you know, so you could
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  Speaker 3: see the number one team fall week two and then
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  Speaker 3: Oregon probably the most balanced, but then they lose a
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  Speaker 3: guy like Kenyan Sadiq to the NFL. So everybody's losing
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  Speaker 3: someone and that's why I think you're starting to see
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  Speaker 3: about five to eight teams now have a claim and
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  Speaker 3: Notre Dames. Notre Dame. People love Notre Dame, and I
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  Speaker 3: think they're going to be great too. But Jadarian Price
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  Speaker 3: and Jeremiah Love two first round picks in the NFL
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  Speaker 3: draft at running back. You think you're just gonna throw
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  Speaker 3: someone in there, and so you just got to find
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  Speaker 3: the teams that have solidified in spots that are easy
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  Speaker 3: to replace in some others.
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  Speaker 4: Matt sec question, if the consensus is that Georgia and
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  Speaker 4: Texas are the two best teams entering the season in
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  Speaker 4: the conference, who do you like in that third spot
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  Speaker 4: right now?
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  Speaker 3: Look, it's a league where you could argue Texas as
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  Speaker 3: the most talented team in the country. You mentioned Georgia,
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  Speaker 3: They're gonna be really, really good. And then there's a fight.
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  Speaker 3: There's a fight for LSU, there's a fight for Texas,
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  Speaker 3: A and M. I mean, there are teams that are
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  Speaker 3: out there. Alabama, fis Keilon Russell kids as good as
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  Speaker 3: people are saying they could be up there. Don't forget
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  Speaker 3: about them. I mean, so there are a lot of
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  Speaker 3: schools within that league. I'm just telling you right now.
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  Speaker 3: With LSU, if Lane Kiffin, who in my mind is
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  Speaker 3: one of the better developers of immediate talent in the country,
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  Speaker 3: if he gets that thing figured out, there isn't anyone
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  Speaker 3: that wants to play LSU in mid October.
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  Speaker 2: Is so true, And not to mention, he could just
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  Speaker 2: go grab his three miss guys that are now all
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  Speaker 2: of a sudden eligible. My gud right to him and
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  Speaker 2: they can have him and Chap him and Green together
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  Speaker 2: at tight end.
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  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? But anyway, all right, that's true.
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  Speaker 3: The team that people are sleeping on in the SEC.
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  Speaker 3: I really believe this. Another schedule's tough, but Oklahoma's got
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  Speaker 3: everybody back on defense and John Mattier's healthy and they
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  Speaker 3: had a good portal haul. I think deep by another
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  Speaker 3: rank tense, but people might ignore O you just long
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  Speaker 3: enough to where they can go in another playoff.
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  Speaker 1: I do agree with you.
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  Speaker 2: I think Materier, I think it's clear that he was
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  Speaker 2: just a shell of himself physically with that hand injury,
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  Speaker 2: and his performance was Remember the way he played early on.
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  Speaker 2: I want to ask you staying in the SEC. I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure we're gonna get to the ACC, but I want
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  Speaker 2: to ask you about the game Cocks. They are a
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  Speaker 2: team that it does feel like a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: in the media think, oh, they're bouncing back. I know
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  Speaker 2: we do here, but how far like do you think
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  Speaker 2: they bounced back.
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  Speaker 1: From last year? And how far can they bounce?
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  Speaker 2: David Pollack the other day brought them up as a
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  Speaker 2: playoff content you go that far?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're sneaky good. They have three stars in the
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  Speaker 3: right positions ed rusher, quarterback, and receiver. The schedules a
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  Speaker 3: bit difficult, but everyone's is in the SEC, and I
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  Speaker 3: think last year was a bit of an aberration. I
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  Speaker 3: know Dylan Stewart's probably not gonna play early on, and
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  Speaker 3: one of their offensive Linemen. They got from NC State.
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  Speaker 3: It's a little banged up, but if healthy. Look for them.
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  Speaker 3: Their schedule at the beginning of the season, we're wolves
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  Speaker 3: around three games Mississippi State, Alabama, and Kentucky. They go
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  Speaker 3: to Alabama, so you're probably not going to get out
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  Speaker 3: of there where they win them and you could surprise
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  Speaker 3: some people. But if they beat Mississippi State, which they
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  Speaker 3: have to, and they beat Kentucky, which they have to,
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  Speaker 3: they go into that part of the schedule. I think
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  Speaker 3: they would make them four and one going into middle October.
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  Speaker 3: Then you've got something going, but you cannot fall to
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  Speaker 3: Mississippi State and Kentucky. But I do I like Beamer
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  Speaker 3: in the game Cocks.
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  Speaker 1: I think they can go in a bit of a
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  Speaker 1: run going to the ACC.
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  Speaker 4: Quick, Matt, what do you think of Clemson's rival this year?
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  Speaker 4: Excuse me, South Carolina's rival in Clemson is it? Is
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  Speaker 4: it a bounce back for Clemson to you know, semi
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  Speaker 4: what they've been the last couple of years prior to
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  Speaker 4: last year, or more of the same falloff that we've
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  Speaker 4: seen from Dabo.
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  Speaker 3: I'm selling all my Clemson stock just because last year
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  Speaker 3: they came in with everyone coming back, including kid Klubnick,
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  Speaker 3: and I think they were ranked fourth in the preseason.
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  Speaker 3: Never got never they weren't ranked at the end of
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  Speaker 3: the year. They don't have a quarterback. They've got a
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  Speaker 3: battle going on with the Vicenzi kid say his last name,
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  Speaker 3: and then the young youngster. They've got LSU week one.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just I'm selling on them. I just I they
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  Speaker 3: haven't been the same since they had that run of
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  Speaker 3: quarterbacks with Trevor Lawrence and Deshaun Watson. They had a
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  Speaker 3: run with Cad and something just was lost in that
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  Speaker 3: Clemson magic that Dabo has. And look down year for
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  Speaker 3: dabl they could sneak up and get ten wins. But
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  Speaker 3: I almost believe, as you said, maybe a reset for
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  Speaker 3: Clemson this year to kind of re get that thing going,
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  Speaker 3: because there's good a program as anybody in the country.
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  Speaker 3: But for whatever reason, they've just lost that step they
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  Speaker 3: had on people.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, Matt.
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  Speaker 2: If the answer to this next question is hell no,
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  Speaker 2: and you want to laugh at me, feel free to
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  Speaker 2: do it, but I'm gonna do this for the Tar
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  Speaker 2: Heel fans.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask this question.
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  Speaker 2: Is there any reason you can find for Heels fans
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  Speaker 2: to believe that, Hey, this is gonna be significantly better
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  Speaker 2: than last year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because basketball season starts in what November, December, they
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  Speaker 3: can get let's focus on focused on hoops. No, it's
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  Speaker 3: an absolute tire fire and there's just there's I mean
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  Speaker 3: great like the guy won super Bowls multiple I guess
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  Speaker 3: forget it. I mean it's an absolute dumpster fire.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that might be the I tried, tar
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  Speaker 1: Heel fans. I tried.
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  Speaker 4: But the thing about it is the basketball fans for
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  Speaker 4: the Tarhols are now gonna text it and say, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: he's right now.
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  Speaker 1: Now you're to get basketball dog going here on the
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  Speaker 1: Is that not what you want?
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  Speaker 3: But because I just I don't get. I don't get
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  Speaker 3: where the hire came from. I just don't because I
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  Speaker 3: know a couple of the other guys that run the list,
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  Speaker 3: and Tario Vams don't want to know those couple of
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  Speaker 3: other guys in the list because they'd be furious this
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  Speaker 3: morning based on what's going on. It just doesn't translate.
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  Speaker 3: It was never going to translate. It was to win
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  Speaker 3: the press conference. You chased out Mac Brown, who he
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  Speaker 3: thought was too old. Yeah, Bill Belichick's the same age.
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  Speaker 3: I just did that. That one, to me is just
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  Speaker 3: that was that was coach higher mault practice.
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  Speaker 2: It was all because some you know, some board member,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, just kind of pushes his
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  Speaker 2: own I mean, Bubba Cunningham. To his credit, the name
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  Speaker 2: that kills me on behalf of the Heels is John
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  Speaker 2: summer All. And like I the more I hear Matt
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what you hear about that, the more
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  Speaker 2: I hear insiders say like he was just turned off
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  Speaker 2: when he realized, oh my god, this board guy's doing
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  Speaker 2: his own thing with bell check, Like, I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to be a part of this.
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  Speaker 1: This is dysfunctional.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: You could have had Dan mullin. Yeah, Dan Mullan's probably
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  Speaker 3: gonna take UNLV into the playoff in year two. He's
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  Speaker 3: probably gonna take UNLB into the playoff in year two,
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  Speaker 3: and then he's gonna be one of the more coveted
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  Speaker 3: coaches on the market this year and this time around.
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  Speaker 3: If North Carolina came calling, I don't know that he'd listen.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Although, and that's the thing I my hope for for
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  Speaker 2: the for the Heels football program is that this show
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  Speaker 2: they're willing to at least invest right invest money into
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  Speaker 2: the program, and it could they could they do it
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  Speaker 2: for a coach like Mulland you know, if you invest
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  Speaker 2: in the right coach, I feel like you could have something.
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  Speaker 3: The guy like, yeah, I mean I could say a
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  Speaker 3: million things that probably get me in trouble. I just
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  Speaker 3: don't know that it was it was for the good
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  Speaker 3: of the program to run out Mac Brown for the
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  Speaker 3: exact same reason you brought in a guy. It just
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  Speaker 3: made no sense.
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  Speaker 2: No, And then like do you think I know right now,
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  Speaker 2: Matt's like, Matt's like, is he is he ever gonna
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  Speaker 2: let me stop talking about trio for football? But to
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  Speaker 2: your point, though, mac Brown, we've said this, like why
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  Speaker 2: couldn't you give him the ni l that all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden you found for Belichick like your greatest coach
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  Speaker 2: in school history, and he couldn't get the money.
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  Speaker 3: You telling me, Bill Belichick goes into a living room
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  Speaker 3: and he's better than Mac Brown.
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  Speaker 1: Heer chance, heck no, he heck no.
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  Speaker 2: Bill mac Brown is so smooth he could convince you,
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  Speaker 2: Matt to come on again on Monday and talk an
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  Speaker 2: hour atar heel football.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the last thing you probably want to do.
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  Speaker 1: That's a weird d any of that all.
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  Speaker 2: Right, brother, hey man, we're looking forward to seeing you
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  Speaker 2: as a part of your sec Nation crew. Thanks so
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  Speaker 2: much for coming on man, love talking ball with you.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate you.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it's pretty good one guys looking forward to at
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  Speaker 3: any time.