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Is Twins owner Tom Pohlad ready to buy at the trade deadline? · Twin Cities Territory

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  Speaker 1: The Twins win a series for the seventh time in
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  Speaker 1: their last eight. Bailey over returns with a solid start,
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  Speaker 1: although the Twins lost the finale to Cleveland On Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Jeffers, getting closer to your return. The MLB Draft
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  Speaker 1: is coming up, and Tom Pohlad speaks about payroll and more.
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  Speaker 1: We'll start with that here today on Twins Cities Territory.
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  Speaker 1: You're Minnesota Twins podcast here on the Foul Territory Network.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Zach Pearce of the Athletic joined by Dan Hayes,
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  Speaker 1: the Athletics, Minnesota Twins beat writer, and Tyler Duffy, longtime
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  Speaker 1: Major leaguer and currently at the Beach. So we'll try
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  Speaker 1: to make this snappy today for Tyler. A lot to
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  Speaker 1: talk about today. Twins another two out of three series
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  Speaker 1: for the seventh time in the last eight. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: one more series coming up before the All Star break.
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  Speaker 1: We've got injury news in both directions. But we're going
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  Speaker 1: to start today with a conversation that Tom Pohlad had
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  Speaker 1: recently with some reporters. Dan, is that correct?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a breakfast, breakfast day.
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  Speaker 1: Breakfast with Tom. Yes, all right, it was breakfast with
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  Speaker 1: Tom what did you guys? What did he have for breakfast?
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  Speaker 1: I'm curious. Can you report that coffee he had?
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  Speaker 3: I you know what I I that was approved? Now
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  Speaker 3: he had water and coffee. I think he had been
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  Speaker 3: there early. We got there, you know, at nine o'clock.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, for the US, nine o'clock is early
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  Speaker 3: at the ballpark time. But anyways, yes, yes, and so
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  Speaker 3: we went.
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  Speaker 2: They're about ten of us or so. And look, it's
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  Speaker 2: not like defined, yes, we're buying. It's not that right.
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  Speaker 3: They're not going to say that right now because they
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  Speaker 3: need to know what they're doing on July thirtieth. They
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  Speaker 3: need to know where they are in July thirtieth. My
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  Speaker 3: thought is, if the twins are where they are right
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  Speaker 3: now on July thirtieth, they're going to try to aggressively
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  Speaker 3: be buyers.
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  Speaker 2: Will they be able to achieve that?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think that the idea that
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  Speaker 3: we got was they want to do that. They see
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  Speaker 3: it as needing to be aggressive now and in the future.
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  Speaker 3: This is Tom Polead's first chance, real chance. That is
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  Speaker 3: how he views it as an owner and knows that
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  Speaker 3: this is an organization that needs to attract its fans.
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  Speaker 3: By being aggressive, by spending in the future, not just
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  Speaker 3: this year, and that they have to do everything they
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  Speaker 3: can to attract those fans. He was asked specifically about
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  Speaker 3: what he's learned over this. You know, he came in
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  Speaker 3: mid December, and what he's learned in these basically six
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  Speaker 3: and a half months as owner, actually it's almost now
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  Speaker 3: seven months as the control person of the team. And
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  Speaker 3: he said that fans who are coming to the park,
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  Speaker 3: he thinks they're getting the energy and that they're enjoying
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  Speaker 3: the product, but that they need to do a better
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  Speaker 3: job of attracting more of those fans. And he recognizes
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  Speaker 3: it that they're not doing as well as they should be,
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  Speaker 3: and not by not close to what they want to do.
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  Speaker 3: With these new control limited partnership groups. The goal is
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  Speaker 3: to be going forward and not backwards.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: The idea of rebuilding is not something they're interested in. Basically,
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  Speaker 3: it is that they want to go forward and be
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  Speaker 3: aggressive and as attractive as they can be. And I
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  Speaker 3: have some quotes I want to read. The one is
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  Speaker 3: about this year, and I'm going to bust the glasses
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  Speaker 3: out for this. He said, we might have a magical
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  Speaker 3: year this year, but at one hundred million dollar payroll
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  Speaker 3: is not going to get the job done. For trying
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  Speaker 3: to accomplish the things that we want to accomplish, he said,
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  Speaker 3: we've got to be competitive consistently, and that's a baseline.
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  Speaker 3: He said, I think the difference between where we've been
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  Speaker 3: and where we're going is the baramerner for success in
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  Speaker 3: the passes, let's just try to be competitive. The barer
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  Speaker 3: for success going forward is let's win a championship. And
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  Speaker 3: he said that's going to require us to make decisions,
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  Speaker 3: whether it's at the trade deadline or in the off season,
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  Speaker 3: and that that those moves look probably pretty different than
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  Speaker 3: decisions that they've made in the past. And I asked
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  Speaker 3: the question. I said, look, how is like what you've
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  Speaker 3: seen with the fans so far? Sorry for the glare
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  Speaker 3: of there, how is what you've seen with the fans
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  Speaker 3: so far?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 3: And it's lagging, I mean, their attendance is down again.
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  Speaker 3: And I said, how could that potentially impact future decisions
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  Speaker 3: like this plan that you guys have going forward to
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  Speaker 3: be aggressive and spent. And he said it doesn't. He said,
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  Speaker 3: we're not going back. He said, this is a build
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  Speaker 3: and they will come situation. I thought that was a
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  Speaker 3: really good, interesting quote. He said, the fans are not
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  Speaker 3: going to come back based on words.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to come.
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  Speaker 3: Back once they see investment and success on the field.
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  Speaker 3: I know that, and I think that sets them up
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  Speaker 3: to be in a spot where if we are, if
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  Speaker 3: we see the Twins two games out in the division
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  Speaker 3: in three weeks at the end of July and to
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  Speaker 3: a couple days before the deadline, they're going to do
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  Speaker 3: everything they can to add I don't know that.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna be massive moves.
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  Speaker 3: I doubt that we see them trade like a Kaitlyn
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  Speaker 3: Culpepper or Walker Jenkins and get rid of those guys.
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  Speaker 3: But I do think that they're going to do everything
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  Speaker 3: they can to try and, you know, enhance this roster
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  Speaker 3: because he sees a lot of fun. He's been around
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  Speaker 3: this team a lot, and even Duff when we were
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  Speaker 3: in Houston, Duff saw him down in the clubhouse and
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  Speaker 3: maybe got a brief introduction. But he's been around in
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  Speaker 3: the clubhouse a lot. He doesn't go in the clubhouse,
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  Speaker 3: but he will stand outside of it and greet guys.
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  Speaker 3: He's on the field a lot. He's in the manager's
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  Speaker 3: office after games. Sometimes he's very hands on. It's unlike
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  Speaker 3: anything I've seen in the nine years I've covered this team.
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  Speaker 3: I would say that Joe Pollad and Jim Pollad were
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  Speaker 3: always at the ballpark, but I rarely saw them on
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  Speaker 3: the in the clubhouse, if ever. So you know, there's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of differences. I would believe this when I
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  Speaker 3: see it, you know what I mean. It's good words, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's encouraging words. But but their words that I've never
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  Speaker 3: heard them say before, And exactly that's the interesting part.
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  Speaker 1: Like it was easy to roll my eyes at everything
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  Speaker 1: you were saying until you read the quotes that like,
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  Speaker 1: there wasn't a lot of gray area in what he said.
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  Speaker 1: Now will he back it up? I don't know. But
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  Speaker 1: Tyler as a player, like you're obviously listening to that
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  Speaker 1: stuff and taking note when you hear an owe er
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  Speaker 1: talk like that, right, Yeah, And it's it's one especially
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  Speaker 1: considering where they are with guys and like guys we've
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  Speaker 1: already kind of talked about them moving. That makes those
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  Speaker 1: moves more realistic to try and get a big leaguer,
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  Speaker 1: you know, versus trading for prospects or whatever. That sounds like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we could take on some salary in a trade for
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  Speaker 1: someone who's going to help us get better. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they're not going to shy away from.
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  Speaker 4: They're not gonna shy away from a guy because maybe
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  Speaker 4: he's moving money. You know, whether it be a starting
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  Speaker 4: pitcher or back in both guy that might be available
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  Speaker 4: now a move like that that may take on a
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  Speaker 4: little extra money, that sounds like they're not going to
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  Speaker 4: shy away from it. And then moving forward, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the off season, you know you've got guys. You know,
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  Speaker 4: Joe Ryan's going to be making a lot of money
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  Speaker 4: if he's still around. You know, historically speaking guys, they
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  Speaker 4: may not have been as inclined to hang on to
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  Speaker 4: or even extend. That sounds like they kind of want
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  Speaker 4: to make some moves happen. And that's as a player
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  Speaker 4: like that's exciting because that means, hey, we might get
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  Speaker 4: something cool come deadline time. You know, you obviously hope
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  Speaker 4: it meshes well in Gel's You know, sometimes teams make
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  Speaker 4: trades and it gets worse.
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  Speaker 5: You know, when on paper is supposed to be better.
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  Speaker 4: But when you hear an owner saying those things and
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  Speaker 4: you know, obviously being present, it feels like he's trying
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  Speaker 4: to get the pulse of that clubhouse, just like Shelty
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  Speaker 4: is as a manager.
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  Speaker 5: You know, he wants to be involved.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he's doing stuff on the broadcast with all
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  Speaker 4: the the alumni that we're doing it this week. You know,
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  Speaker 4: he's he's doing all the right things, and the quotes
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  Speaker 4: back it up. So it seems like it's a real,
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  Speaker 4: you know, changing of the tide. And you know they,
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  Speaker 4: like you said, if you build it, they will come,
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  Speaker 4: you know, it is It's one of those things that
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  Speaker 4: kind of has to happen or it's just it's not.
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  Speaker 2: Going to work.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, it's it's exciting to hear those things
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  Speaker 4: from from an owner, especially because he's one holding the
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  Speaker 4: keys to the castle, so without him, nothing can happen.
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  Speaker 1: Of the two teams who are spending three hundred million
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  Speaker 1: dollars on their payroll, it's not going well for one
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  Speaker 1: of them. That would be the New York Mets. And actually,
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  Speaker 1: of the sixteen top opening day payrolls in baseball, only
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  Speaker 1: five of them are currently in playoff position, and the
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  Speaker 1: Twins are doing better than all of the other eleven
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  Speaker 1: in the standing. So my point is not don't spend
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  Speaker 1: money but they're remarkably close to compare pitive despite not
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  Speaker 1: spending money, which which makes which to me is an
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to be smart from here to build the team
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  Speaker 1: rather than tear it down. Dan, That's what I would say.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, when you have a lot of young, affordable talent,
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  Speaker 3: like the Twins do, you can then build around it.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the great part of having like fifteen guys
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  Speaker 3: that are making close to the minimum, which the Twins
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  Speaker 3: have a ton of guys right now who are making
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  Speaker 3: close to the minimum. You have this platform for success,
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  Speaker 3: then you can enhance your roster by taking shots and
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  Speaker 3: not hamstringing your roster. Look, the Twins are always gonna
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  Speaker 3: be that organization that has to be smart with the
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  Speaker 3: big spends because they can't afford to have Garrett Cole
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  Speaker 3: out for eighteen months making thirty six million dollars a year,
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  Speaker 3: right Like, It's it's their challenge when they're big spends
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  Speaker 3: like Pablo Lopez being on the AL right now, twenty
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  Speaker 3: one percent of their payroll right now is on the
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  Speaker 3: IL and that's that's it.
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  Speaker 2: Hurts them and hamstrings.
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  Speaker 3: Them, but they should have room for that because of
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  Speaker 3: how young the roster is right now, and I think
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  Speaker 3: they're they're kind of I agree with you. There's no
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  Speaker 3: correlation to spending meaning winning like direct correlation. It doesn't
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  Speaker 3: mean if you have a three hundred million dollar payroll
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  Speaker 3: you're going to win, but it sure helps, and like
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  Speaker 3: you should be in that that mind. And I think
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  Speaker 3: all of this comes from you know, he said at
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  Speaker 3: one point on time being of the essence. I think
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  Speaker 3: it's hard for him not to see it. That was
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  Speaker 3: a big series against Cleveland to open this homestand going
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  Speaker 3: into the All Star break, and there were seventeen thousand
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  Speaker 3: on Monday. I had a reporter text me and be like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm tuning in. Is is there a weather thing? And
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, no, no, that's just.
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  Speaker 2: That's the crowd.
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  Speaker 3: The national reporter of text and there was fourteen thousand,
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  Speaker 3: nine hundred on Tuesday and yesterday was twenty two thousand.
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  Speaker 3: They drew sixty one sixty two thousand for a critical
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  Speaker 3: series series in which they won games and gain ground
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  Speaker 3: on in the division. They moved within two of the
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  Speaker 3: White Sox and Guardians, who are tied at first for
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  Speaker 3: first place. So I think this is just a recognition
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  Speaker 3: right now that man, we are still you know, we're trying.
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  Speaker 3: We're having this fun season, but people are tuning this
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  Speaker 3: out and we need to we need to do more.
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  Speaker 3: And I just you know, it's interesting to hear him
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  Speaker 3: say it.
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  Speaker 2: You got to back it up, you got to back
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  Speaker 2: it up. He said this all along.
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  Speaker 3: And again it's there's no firm commitment to buying right
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  Speaker 3: now because he wasn't going to put Jeremy's ole in
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  Speaker 3: a spot where if the Twins lose ten of their
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  Speaker 3: next twelve and the recommendation is we got to sell
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  Speaker 3: off you know, some of these pieces. He's not going
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  Speaker 3: to put him in a spot where it's like, no,
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  Speaker 3: but we're at it, you know. So he's not making
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  Speaker 3: any declarations about where they are because I think the
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  Speaker 3: one thing that's helped is he's he's getting some baseball
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  Speaker 3: IQ by being around this year. He really wanted to
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  Speaker 3: be hands on and immerse himself because he was a novice.
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  Speaker 2: As much as he's been in this family, he was
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  Speaker 2: not focused on baseball guy. It was not you know everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Joe Joe Pole adds the guy that was around the
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  Speaker 3: franchise a lot more, doing internships, every kind of role
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  Speaker 3: to soak up every aspect of the business. Tom polead
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  Speaker 3: was I think an internship with MLB one year, you know,
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  Speaker 3: maybe a decade and a half ago, and he really
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  Speaker 3: was involved in the other family businesses. So I think
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  Speaker 3: he had a lot to learn. And what he's learned
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  Speaker 3: is that, you know, he didn't know that much. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, he was talking about being competitive, and I
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  Speaker 3: think he realizes how much the Twins have had go
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  Speaker 3: right for them this year, in spite of some of
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  Speaker 3: their injuries to critical players, that.
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  Speaker 2: This team is overachieving.
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  Speaker 3: He did mention that he said he thought they were
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  Speaker 3: overachieving based on chemistry, based on you know, a lot
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  Speaker 3: of things that have happened through their desire for winning
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  Speaker 3: with each other. That this group likes each other, the
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  Speaker 3: coaching staff is getting a ton out of the group.
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  Speaker 3: So I you know, that was early on. Some of
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  Speaker 3: the things to be skeptical that he was saying was like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna be competitive this year. It's like at the time,
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  Speaker 3: I remember thinking, Tom, have you seen your bullpen?
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  Speaker 2: Tom? Have you? And he knows, he knows the bullpen
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  Speaker 2: needs to be fixed.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean, man, if they had a if they
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  Speaker 3: had had a Duran at the start of the season
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  Speaker 3: or a Louis Varland at the start of the season,
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  Speaker 3: and this team is in.
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  Speaker 2: Place games ahead. What you say that again, Duff.
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  Speaker 5: Is with Chapman.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I've seen his picture as a possible
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  Speaker 4: trade beats this year and go get.
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  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't see the Madden World as Chapman. But he
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  Speaker 3: uh like someone like that. But you know, I mean
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  Speaker 3: like there is recognition that this is not working as
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  Speaker 3: they would like it too with the fans, and that
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  Speaker 3: they need to be a team that is so exciting
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  Speaker 3: that they re energize that fan base, and it's going
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  Speaker 3: to take spending and winning.
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  Speaker 1: It's a bit of a crossroads. I mean, you brought
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  Speaker 1: up Pablo Lopez. Also, ten million dollars of that payroll
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  Speaker 1: is going to Carlos Korea, who isn't playing for the team.
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  Speaker 1: Their MVP candidate Buxton is on the il Anthony Bonda
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  Speaker 1: lost for the season, one of their reliable bullpen arms.
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  Speaker 1: And yet right around five hundred might be there after
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  Speaker 1: this weekend. And if you tear that down, like people
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  Speaker 1: would dream to have that starting point with this amount
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  Speaker 1: of money being spent on the team, you're basically paying
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  Speaker 1: seventy million dollars to the players who are on the field,
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  Speaker 1: and you're in the playoff contention, Like, this is not
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  Speaker 1: something you should tear down. He seems to recognize that, right,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. We'll take a break, we'll talk
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  Speaker 1: to go before we'll probably start seeing what the strategy
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  Speaker 1: in the al Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And to the Dan's point before the break was, you
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  Speaker 4: know they want to spend some money, and the easiest
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  Speaker 4: way to not spend all of the money and still
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  Speaker 4: get better is you know, we've talked about the bullpen
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  Speaker 4: all year and it struggles at times, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: go get whether it's a stopper or somebody a closer
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  Speaker 4: that's available, maybe a younger guy. You've got space on
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: the salary front, and you've got extra guys. You can
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: make a move for a reliever that's not going to
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: be a huge contract. It's not going to hamstring you,
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: you know, anything like that, and it's a simple move,
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: that's a plug and play and you just go. You know,
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: those guys I feel like are the easiest to move.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: You know, it's you go sit in a bullpen every
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: day anyways, it's no different. It's not like plugging in
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: a new shortstop overnight or a summerfielder.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: It's it's a.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: Bullpen arm they work every day and you just should say, hey, man,
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: the eighth inning is yours or the ninth inning or
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: whatever they want to pitch, and you let them have
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: it the rest of the year, and odds are it's
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: going to work out because it's it's comfortability for guys
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: and it just shures up the spot that we've needed
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: all year. And you know again it's it's a non
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: necessarily expensive move that can make a huge impact overnight.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: It's the one biggest weakness.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: It is, and but it's funny.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: One of the the one part that I like about
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: the open tryouts per se that they've held is Joandros
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Gomez has has found a way to become a guy.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Like his appearance Tuesday night he came in for or
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Monday night. It was when he came in just for
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: the one batter and it was you know, the time
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: run was.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: At the plate and it was boom, boom boom.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Three off speed, pitches up in the zone, strikeout, walk
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: off the field.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: He's found a way to become a guy. Andrew Morris
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: has found a way. Is cutter. He's thrown in a
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: lot more. He's become a guy.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: And when you have those two already in place, it's
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: not like the twins have to go out and get
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: the closer. Getting that closer that would be great, I
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: get it. But you can keep those guys build around that.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Just get more guys, get like a hunter. Gadis not
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: the hunter. Gaddis is available, but you don't need to
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: get Cade Smith.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: You don't.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: You just get two guys that can get in there
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: and be sixth, seventh inning guys and they're reliable guys
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: for Derek Shelton. Maybe get a lefty that Anthony Bonda.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: You mentioned that earlier on the shows Act. We saw
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Anthony Bonda in the clubhouse yesterday. He was arm in
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: a sling. The latter resulted in a surgery. We did
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: not know there were surgery that just we'd heard he
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: was out for months, not weeks. He's out for nine months.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: He's out till. He won't be back till spring training.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Should be ready at spring training next year. So you
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: can't count on him anymore, unfortunately, because he was becoming
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: a guy for this team. So you need more guys
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: and you don't. That's the relievers are always prospect expensive
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: at the trade deadline, doesn't matter like you're doesn't matter
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: about the salary. You've seen guys go and get traded.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: But at this point, just give them more arms to
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: work with and build around and have four or five guys,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: and then you push some of your other guys down
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: into easier, lesser roles and give them time to develop.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Because I see Eric Gorsey's potential, but I also think
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Eric Wrzy's a rookie, and like, give him time to
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: get comfortable before you have to throw him into every big,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: high leverage situation. In the six or seventh INNY, I like,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: I like the makeup of the group, but I really
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: like that Morris and Gomez are there. It's not like
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: they have to rebuild it entirely from scratch. And that's
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: been one benefit of having all these undefined roles throughout
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: the years that you've found some definition and they're not
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: starting from a total just keep bridging and building the
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: bridge essentially, because the bridge has already started, the project
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: is underway.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I've been staring at Tyler's background this whole time and
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: just noticed that that I thought that was like an actual,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: you know, city mandated hurricane sign on the wall, but
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: actually it just says the hurricane evacuation plan. Grab beer,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: run like hell.
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: Run like hell.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Good Smart, Smart Twins. As we mentioned, seventh series win
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: in the last eight. One of those was a sweep
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: the Texas series. The other six until this one, the
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: previous five of them that had been two out of three,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: and they all featured the Twins winning the final game
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: of the series to break the split, which was interesting
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: this time going for the sweep on Thursday, didn't get it.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Dan always a bummer to come up short in that situation,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: but overall successful three days for the Twins and especially
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: some nice to see Bailey oberback on the mount Thursday
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: and doing well.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Thursday felt like didn't have a chance because Gavin
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Williams was so good.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that wasn't fair, Like, don't bring such a
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: good picture power Sweeper. Twins are supposed to miss the good.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Pictures right, Like power Sweeper was diving at the like
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: left these back feet and it was just nasty all day.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: He was outstanding and really was like was no hit
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: in perfect game into the fifth until Royce dropped the
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: two bunt and foul bund attempts and then parachuted the
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: single to right and that put together one inning. They
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: had one shot for real and they got the one
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: run out of it, and that was unfortunate because that's
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: your make or break point with a pitcher going that good,
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: and he's looked like that at times against the Twins before,
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: but that's one of the better ones. And then you
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: know they bring out Gaddis and Kate Smith, and it's
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: just that's a pretty good combo for a victory for Cleveland,
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: but it doesn't overshadow like like you said, Bailey was
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: really good. Bailey was spinning the ball early on. It
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: looked like he lost his change up, but he found
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: it again. His his sweeper was good. He had some
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: real swing and miss stuff, and he was manipulating the
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: ball like we know Bailey yogurt to do. And when
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: he left it was one to one. So he did
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: his his part. They got to Kendrick Rojas a little bit,
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: and so I've learned it's not Wu, It's it's ooh
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: sook gun. There's the w is silent. So he made
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: his debut and he got a nice strikeout in there.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: He gave up a home run too, but welcome the
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Rojas gave up three right exactly a major league debut
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: for him, and so you know, there were there were
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Bailey was really encouraging. But I thought the Tuesday game
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: was outstanding in one way. How many times it looked
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: like the Twins should have lost that game on Tuesday,
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Nips his blister burst in that fourth inning. He gave
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: up three runs apparently he was bleeding and it bled
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: on to the umpire who was checking his hand at
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: one point.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: That was the Wednesday game?
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Was that Wednesday? Yes, it was Wednesday.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Thursday series my bad, but but Wednesday he he you know,
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: he struggled, he hit that spot where he go up three,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: and then Eric Orzy came in and walked the first
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: two in the sixth in na I believe it was,
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: and those two runs came around the score and Cleveland
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: pulled away again. And then the Twins rally like the
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Twins rallied multiple times in that and and had some
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: nice moments, said the five walk in to tie the
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: game where Cleveland just had no Cleveland relievers had no
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: idea where the ball was going.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: That was That was crazy. But the cool, the very
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: cool part about it was.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Alan Roaden finally getting his moment with the swage. And look,
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: there should be no guy that Twins fans want to
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: root for more than him, because he's the guy who's
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: He and Rojas are the guys that came over for
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Louis Arland. The hated trade, right, pardon me, the trade loads.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Why do we trade the local guy with his bullpen?
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Would all the arguments make sense. There's nothing wrong with
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: being upset about the Louis Arland trade, but also imagine
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: being the guys that came back in the Louis Arland
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: trade and knowing how much the deal that brought you
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: to town is low by the fan base and is
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: brought up at every spot. Alan Roaden was the first
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: guy last year that walked in the door after the
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: trade deadline in Cleveland.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: First guy that was acquired.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Out of all the people they got in the deadline,
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: he's the only one that was there the day after.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: So he's like the face of the next wave, and
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: it was like he wanted to succeed. I think he
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: started in centerfield that day. He maybe got one for five.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: He was not good for his forty played appearances. You know,
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: this is a guy that's a very polished minor league hitter,
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: three hundred average for his career, like an eight to
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: fifty seven ops in the minors first career, and when
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: we're talking about fifteen hundred at bats lots of time,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: he's twenty seven.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: This was his shot.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: He'd been no opportunities in Toronto and it was his shot,
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: and he came up and he got forty played appearances.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: He was terrible in those forty play appearances. And his
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: season ended with UCLA UCLA or sorry ucl thumb surgery
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: and he ends on the ilose and then he's not
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: like everybody's like, oh, he's gonna make the roster and
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: opening day, then they keep Outman, they bring back Larnick.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Larnick's worked out great. Outman didn't work out so great.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: But Rodin starts the Triple A despite having a very
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: good spring, and there's more disappointment. And then he gets
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: hurt on April twenty second and tears his labram in
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: his non throwing shoulder and misses six weeks and during
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: that period they release Outman. During that period, Wallner gets
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: sent down. There are opportunities for him to have come up.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: He didn't get those opportunities because he's hurt and rehabbing.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Had a good month at Triple A. They finally had
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: a spot when Buckston went on the il he gets
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: to start. Finally he gets the big moment. Just there
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: must have been there was so much joy. If you've
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: seen the photos or the videos, like there's a great
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: photo on my story where he's just like roaring, like
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: like like the rocky moment kind of thing the guy's
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: and like his celebration didn't occur at second base.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Or first base.
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: His celebration field.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Was in center field. I asked Tyler Fedco because he
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: was the guy that ran out there.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Those two love each other, that played together at Triple A,
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: and Fedco was like, you celebrate with your friends. You
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: want the best for them, And that's awesome to hear
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: because Fedco is going through it himself right now, still
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: riding the o for being up after a couple of weeks.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: And Fedco was like, I asked how far he went
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: and He's like, I went much further than I thought
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: I was gonna have to.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: But you know, they they.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: Celebrated wildly, and it was such a cool moment because
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: it represented the kind of games the Twins have played
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: all year where they just keep coming back and they
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: have this undying spirit that drives them. And it happened
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: for a guy who was really deserving of the moment
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: and it was his first chance, and so I thought
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: that was kind of a signature victory that of course
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: all started with the championship TV starting that Colorado.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: You know, well what I like, So the Twins had
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: it was five three going in the bottom of the seventh.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: The Twins tied it with those walks, but they still
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: had bases loaded one out and didn't get any more
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: out of it. Then they loaded the bases in the eighth.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Didn't get anything out of it, yep, So they go to.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: The bottom of the knife in that spot in the eighth.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Se they load the bases. Lukeishil drew the walk to
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: load the bases. Rodent comes up, the count goes two oh,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: which and just from the start, he looked like he
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: looked comfortable. He did not look like, oh ship, I'm
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: in a big moment. Oh now, I swore for the
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: first time on this podcast.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Then he then he watched the next two pitches for strikes,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: which I understand walk wins the game. Like uh. Then
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: he laid laid off a sweeper on two to full count.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Ye fouled off three straight pitches before stroking the one
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: off the wall on right field and Tyler just like I.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: The first reaction to any fan seeing the recent call
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: up come up in the big spot as a crap.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: But I don't know that the Twins could have had
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: a better person they're the way he would just like handled.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: Himself in like like you said, he looked calm and
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: collected in the moment. You know, he's he's got the
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: bats in the minor leagues. It's not for the lack
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: of games played anything. He was simply this year. He
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: was just hurt when it was his turn and he
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: got his chance. And you know that's a spot where
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: some guys get a little antsy and they swing and
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: stuff maybe they shouldn't or whatever, And he was ready
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: for that at bat, ready for the moment.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: Good good on the coaches who were with him helping him.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: I'm sure he's talking to teammates getting ready to face
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: you know, the guy that inning, it was the culmination
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: of a lot of work for him. And you know,
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: to be able to hit a ball and not I'll
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: give him a lot of credit, not just hitting like
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: a bleeder, to walk it off like you had a
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: rocket right the right center field ball as a homer.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Probably that's a walk off homer in a lot of stadiums.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: So he absolutely smashed that ball, you know, and the
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: guys were obviously fired up. I mean, when the whole
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: team's chasing you, I do pre shade and taking it
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: to center and trying to get closer to the bullpen guys,
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: because the worst part of a walkoff is being in
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: the bullpen and you're like, ooo, yeah we won, We'll
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: miss the whole party. You know, you get to the
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: locker in ten minutes after it's over with.
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: But you know, it was.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: It was awesome to see, and it's such a in
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: a big, huge series, like against Cleveland the team, you
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: got a beat to do that, Like.
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: That's that's all you could ask for.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: And like when you look at the locations of those
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: last four pitches that he was thrown, they were all
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: fastballs locked in. He knew they had to be fastballs
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: because you can't walk the guy. The game's over the
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: first three at least according to this chart I'm looking at,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: we're kind of on the edges on the corners somewhere.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: And then the one he smoked was middle middle, and like,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: you know, you like, if you if you can follow
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: him off, if you can hold off long enough, you're
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: eventually going to get one that's either out of the
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: zone or that you can that you can do something
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: with him. And he did so, and then he didn't
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: miss it, didn't miss it. Great stuff. We'll take a break.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: We'll come back. Ryan, Jeffers and the draft still to
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: get in and this show. Sorry, Tyler, the beach will
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: have to wait just a little bit longer. We'll be
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: right back.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we're back. Fortunately Djokovic versus Center has not
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: started yet and Wimbledon. But if you see my eyes
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: wandering up, that's why. Other good news for the twins
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: actually might create a bit of an issue for the
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: twins in a good way. But Ryan Jeffers Dan appears
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: to be all the way back. Is he officially back yet?
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Are we still waiting for the official He.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Is not officially back. We're waiting for a word. But
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: he is very close, he said, I'm ready. It's just
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: going to depend on when they want to activate me.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: It wouldn't shock me if we saw them roll with
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: three catchers for a little while and somebody else goes.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Because you can use Jeffers as the dh especially with
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Buckston down, or you can use Kartini as the dh
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: R Jackson. But also Kartini and Jackson both can play
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: some first base, so they can be flexible and not
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: just be relegated too, Like this is three catchers and
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: that's all they can do.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: But Jeffers is close, We asked him.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: He said he got enough time where he wanted to
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: track the ball and his numbers I don't have them,
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: but they were excellent.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: At Triple A. He was just on the ball all the.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Way, hitting like one hundred and four miles an hour
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: drives off the bat one hundred and five early on,
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: And I asked about the vibration because that was one
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: of the things that Derek Shelton had talked about, was
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: like how guys respond after their hamte bone breaks and
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: how they come back no when from the hamletbone, Like
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: that's a thing where you have to check with it,
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: and how the hand is doing off the camp right exactly.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: He said, you know what, he actually has not dealt
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: with that at all because he pimped the axe handle
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: bat that he uses and says that's actually there to
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: help you with the hammittbone. And so he's felt good
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: physically and it's been about getting the legs underneath him
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: and he's done some work there just so he can
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: be behind the plate.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: But track the.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Ball well, was contacting well and had put up some
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: gutdy numbers.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: So I think we'll see him.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't be shocked if he's activated tonight
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: for the start of this series against the Los Angeles Angels.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: But that's a good ad for them. Bailey over come
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: back yesterday is a good ad for them. They're getting healthier.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Cole Sands through the other day and can be back
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: in this bullpen somewhat soon, and that'd be a nice
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: boost to have someone that they could slide into a
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: sixth or seventh inning role if he's healthy. And you know,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: he threw twenty five pitches the other day. His velocities
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: on all those pitches were up at triple A and
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: he is kind of getting there. I'm sure we'll see
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: him have at least one more rehab outing before but
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: who knows. Like but those are encouraging signs.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: This team needs to get healthy. And you know, Mick
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Abeles in the clubhouse, he's encouraged. After his surgery, he
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: was feeling good.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: He doesn't have a timeline yet, but he's optimistic about
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: coming back this year.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: They shaved the bone down for him, So on.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: The injury front, it's shaving a bone.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Hey, look, look, there's no really good injuries with the elbow,
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Like it's either shaved down the bone or loose bodies
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: were removed.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Neither of.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Those are good definitions.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: Right screws, that's the big one.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: No screws, yeah, right exactly, and no time together like
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: pieces of.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Ten tendons to make a new elbow, right like that,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Those are the worst ones.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: But what you guys do stuff to go through to
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: throw a baseball is insane. But yeah, it's definitely like
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Jeffers is just another nice thing that's happening right now.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: It feels like things are going in the right direction
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: to go along with the good vibes. Aside from the
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: Anthony Bonda news, everything else has been pretty upbeat lately,
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: even Baron Bucks and you could see it. He's I
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: think he's okay with the fact that he's never gonna
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: be okay that he's on the aisle, But I think
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: he is in a good place to be on the isle.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: The team winning without him has keeps showing him this
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: is the right move, I think.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: So.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: He saw him in the clubhouse after the game yesterday.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: He looked pretty upbeat, even with the loss. They all
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: look pretty upbeat right now.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: It does create an interesting issue We've talked in the past,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Tyler about, obviously, how well Victor Carrattini has done stepping
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: up as the main catcher in Jeffers's absence. He also
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: remains a potential trade option if you're looking to buy.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Given the logjam at catcher, the Twins might draft to
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: catch her tomorrow. We'll get to that in a minute,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: but at least on the field for now. What do
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: you how do you see this working out? Tyler? What
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: would you do?
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to remember, like we had well with just two,
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: like we had Garber and cashtro you know, they had
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: their moments where their little dinged up here or there.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: But it does it creates a situation where it's do
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: you know, rotate them daily kind of no matter what.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: And then like Dan said, you know, dh whoever's off,
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: maybe to keep them getting at bats because especially like
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: if Karattini's hot, he's a switch hitter.
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: If I'm not mistaken, I'm not imagining that, but.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: He's switch hitter and he's been carrying the freight, so
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: to speak, since Jeffers left, and it's hard you know, yes,
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: Jeffers was probably assumed to be the bulk you know,
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: starter this year, but at the same time, like Karattini
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: was available because Astros had a big prospect that needed
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: to catch.
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: You know, they they.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: Didn't give him the run that he probably deserved, and
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: now he's getting it, and it's like he's showing like
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm a good ballplayer, and so it does.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: It's it's gonna be an interesting one. You know. There's
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: teams always need catching.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: It's whether you're willing to get rid of one of
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: those two between he and Jeffers potentially, or is Jackson
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: your guy. Like it's they're they're gonna have to make
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: a tough decision, you know, and fortunately the guys are
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: making it tough. You know, everyone's contributing pretty much across
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: the board for the team. That lineup is you know,
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: we've talked about it a lot. It's everybody. He's kind
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: of doing their job, and it's hard to make a
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: decision on what you're going to do, and you know,
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: the last thing you want to do is see somebody leave.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: But at the same time, it's if it means you've
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: got a better shot at getting a ring or win
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: in the division or whatever your end goal is, Like
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: you've got to make that tough decision sometimes, and you know,
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: it's part of baseball. Ultimately, And you know, I keep
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: going back to my initial thought on Jeffers, is he's
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: going to be the free agent.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: Are you going to pay him what he wants? You know,
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: Fifty sixty seventy million probably is what he can get
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: on the market. Like, that's a lot of money. Do
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: we want to spend it all on him this offseason?
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: You keep him?
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: It's there, there's some things to be done, you know,
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: And I guess whenever he's active, that'll kind of open
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: the door for that. But yeah, as of right now,
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: it's it's a good problem to have, and you just
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: kind of ride it out until I guess the right
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: phone call comes in.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Hey, Kartini might get you a reliever at this point,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: but go ahead down exactly.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Kroten is there. They sign him for two years.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Kartini is the plan, the backup plan as the main
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: guy next year with Jeffers when he moves on.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: And and you know.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: I think they're hoping to get some kind of compensation
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: when Jeffers signs elsewhere. And that's the part where they're
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: in a good spot is that he you know, who
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: knows what the new CBA brings as far as compensation,
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: whether it be a qualified with play next year, right right,
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: And that's that's the other aspect of this. But when
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: you think about you know there will be some kind
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: of compensation for teams regardless. The NFL gives a draft
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: pick compensation at the end of like the third and
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: fourth rounds for free agents. So losing Jeffers, if you
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: hang on to him the rest of the way, if
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: they're in a good spot in three weeks and they
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: just decide to go forward, he's going to enhance the roster.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: The balance will be interesting because he was the dominant
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: catcher before the injuries and Kartine was not hitting well
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: at all. Like mid May, there was like parts where
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: you're like, what, this guy's not been a good sign,
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: And since Jeffers left, it's just been he's been incredible,
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: And so you I think there might be more of
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: a fifty to fifty split or closer. Maybe maybe it's
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: fifty five to forty five something like that. But we're
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: gonna see Kerteini out there still. He's earned the extended
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: look and his body probably will appreciate some extra time
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: off too. Jackson's the one I'm wondering how they'll they'll
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: dance this because he's been good as the backup, but
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: he's out of options and so you know, they'd have
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: to expose them the waivers or trade him. And I
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: think they've learned they love their depth just from this
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: this routine or this exercise, and it's been critical.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: So it's one of the few to take a really
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: good depth. Yeah, yeah, yeah right. Uh.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: The MLB Draft is tomorrow Saturday. The eleventh. Twins have
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: the number three pick. We will have plenty of time
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: next week with UH with no games during the week
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: to talk about whoever the Twins do end up drafting.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: But Dan, what is the quick preview? Will be looking
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: at as possibilities at number three.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there are three real possibilities, maybe four.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: The number one guy going in is UCLA shortstop Rockwall Chilowski.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Great name, yeah and.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Sounds like he should be a linebacker from the forties
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: or something.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah he does, yeah, right, yeah.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: He He's been up there all along. He went into
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: the year as the consensus number one. UCLA had an
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: early exit. I think it didn't really go very far
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: even though they were they won the SEC sounds weird,
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, the sorry, the big ten, and then catcher
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Von Lackey from Georgia Tech.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Is also one of those top three guys.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Prep shortstop Grady Emerson, he's a Texas guy, had a
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: monster year. He's only the second player ever in high
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: school to be a nominee for the Golden Spikes Award.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: He and Bobby Witt Junior are the only guys ever
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: that were preps to be nominated as semi finals for
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: that hit like five thirty two this season, he was outstanding.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: He was at a small school, but he has lots
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: of big showcase event talent or he's played experienced there.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: He was on Team USA four years in a row,
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: often being like a seventeen year old playing with eighteen
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: year olds. Made the All World Team in his last
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: year on Team USA. He's interesting.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: There's hang on.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: I think the Twins like Georgia Tech outfielder Drew Burris.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: He's a guy that's He's rated on MLB MLB dot
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: COM's Top one hundred. He's the seventh rated prospect. They
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: also have been kind of tied to U see Santa
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Barbara right hander Jackson Floora. He throws hard. Maybe they
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: could bring him up and put him in the bullpen
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: if they drafted him. But I don't see them drafting
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: for need. I see them taking the best available talent,
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: whatever that is. And it's a crap shoot the White Sox.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Who knows what they're doing at one Tampa Bay.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: They always makes them off the wall picks they're number two.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: It's hard to say what's going to happen, but it'll
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: be one of those five names for the twins. But
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: I really think the first three is where we'll see
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: them pull from whichever and maybe they're lucky and maybe
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Rock falls to them and then they have a future
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: shortstop right away because he wouldn't be very far from
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: the majors.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Those top three all have great names, so I'm good
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: with any of them. I like, I put a lot
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: of stock in that. You need a nice, snappy name.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, but I like to think it doesn't.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Baseball America said that.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Baseball America said that Rock Julawski and Grady Emerson would
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: be not just top draft picks, but would be in
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: the high in their prospect rankings when they're selected, So
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: like maybe like top twenty prospects, So I mean there's
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: impact coming in one form or another, And hey, I mean,
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: look Von Lackey, a power catcher at Georgia Tech, a
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: big hitter, and maybe that's somebody you could look at
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: being the catcher of the future if if you get him,
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: and maybe he's not that far away. But catching is
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: always tricky because it takes time to get caught up
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: to the major league game and be ready to call
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: those games, have the knowledge needed to call those games.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Oh and hit, you know, and receive and frame and like.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: But I think anyway they go, they're going to add
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: some impact talent to this franchise immediately.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: One more series until the All Star Break. The Angels
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: come to town this weekend.
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: Fighting Kurt Suzuki's the fighting Kurt suzukis.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: The Angels are not good, last place in the American
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: League thirty seven and fifty seven. If the Twins were
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: able to sweep them, they would go into the All
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Star Break over five hundred, which is crazy, but even
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: two out of three, they can keep that train rolling.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: I think they'd be just fine with that. And they
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: have a really nice setup on the mound, Dad, unless
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: I'm wrong, because I feel like the last couple times
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: I've listed off the starting pitching rotation for the series.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I've been incorrect, Butzbie Matthews, Joe Ryan.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Todge Bradley sounds what the plan is there.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: It is, that's the lineup and twin starters have been
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: on fire last month, a top five unit in er
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: batting average against and earn runs allowed. Pretty good in
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: some of those other metrics too, if you're watching on
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: YouTube right now. So they've got to feel good about
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: that lineup Dan heading into this final series before the break.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: And it's so crazy where they are because right now
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: they are in exactly the same spot they were a
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: year ago. They went into that final series of the
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: first half against the Pirates last year where if they swept,
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: they had this nine game homestand that was considered huge
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: before the trade deadline last year, and I think they
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: were six and two going into the.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Finale and they couldn't get it done.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: On the Sunday they had multiple chances and lost and
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: maybe ten ins the Pirates and they went into the
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: break one game under five hundred.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: They came out.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: They had that Schemes Joe Ryan matchup on Friday Night
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: last year and Joe Ryan outpitched Schimes. Huge crowd, like
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: forty thousand and Byron had his cycle on Byron Bucks
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: and Bobblehead Day. So they're in exactly the same position
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: they were a year ago. But what's funny is at
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: that time it was like, oh man, this is dire.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: They'd better get this because if not, we're gonna they're
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: gonna rip apart this team. This is such a disappointing
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: first half, and here they are where if they come
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: out of this in first or one game above five hundred,
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be like the greatest first half they've had
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: in a while, because it's so unexpected. The difference of
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: a place from a year ago to now is eye opening,
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: and it's unfortunate that everything that has gone into the
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: last three years and driving the fans away is playing
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: out and we're not seeing people at the park enjoying
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: this team, because this team is really fun and they're
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: the kind of team the fans would get behind. They've
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: they've embraced their underdog mentality, and here they are where
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: you know they should win the series. There's especially with
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: those three guys going they should win this series. But
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: also you want to sweep get that momentum into the
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: end of the first half and into the All Star
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: break and go in a game up above five hundred.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: So they certainly have the cards aligned or the stars
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: aligned to do that. But I mean sweeping is really difficult.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: Like Hawk Harrelson said, every team wins sixty games, they
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: lose sixty games.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: It's what you do with the forty in between.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: All the Angels, as bad as they are, they're gonna
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: still win sixty games and they're you know, so this
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: can be one of them, and you know, you just
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: need to make sure that you take care of business.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: This team has done a good job of that recently
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: and they need to keep doing it again.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Tyler, is there a little extra incentive pressure to go
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: into the break on a high note, especially a series
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: that you should do well in?
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's one.
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: Historically, like in games and seasons, I remember, you don't
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: you just can't play down, I guess would be the
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: best way to say it. You know, you just played Cleveland,
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: a good team team you needed to be. You handled
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: your business. You know, it's it's show up today, ready
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: to pop them in the mouth. You know, it's it's
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: when you don't show up and kind of okay, it's
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: the Angels, you know, and next thing you know, you're
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: down three nothing in the second or something like, you know,
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: make an air here, mental mistake. It's just finishing strong,
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: honestly is what it is. And I guarantee you Shelty
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: and and the boys are you know, their talks or
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: whatever they're having inside it. It's finished the first half strong.
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: Not just finish the first half. You know, it's maintain
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: this pace, maybe even put the throttle down a little bit.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: Just you've got a week off coming or five to
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: whatever it is. You know, empty the tank. You're gonna
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: get plenty of rest and recovery. You know, go to
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: the lake, do whatever you want to do. But these
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: three they do matter. I don't think it's more of
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: a stress or a concern. It's more of a show up,
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: ready to play baseball today. Treat it like this game
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: matters as much as any other, and just take care
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: of your business. You know, at the end of the day,
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: especially a team like the Angels coming in, they're looking
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: to surprise somebody. You know, it's probably it's young guys
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: just waiting for their moments and things like that. You know,
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: they're they're struggling going through it, so any sign of
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: hope for them is going to start a fire. And
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: so you just got to come out and set the
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: tone early and like damn sand you sweep would be great,
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: but just make sure you win this series and everybody
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: will be happy.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Seven tens start Friday night tonight Zebbie Matthews against Grayson Rodriguez,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon one ten Joe Ryan against Ryan Johnson, Battle
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: of Ryan's and then Sunday one ten Taj Bradley and
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Jose Soriano, who has been pretty pretty strong for the Angels,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: one of their bright spots this season. That's it. We'll
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