Latest / Let's Talk Podcasts from Feminist Podcasters Collective / Lindsay Johnson on Going Video-First & Ditching Imposter Syndrome
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- Becky Mollenkamp (00:00) Welcome back to the series of interviews that I'm doing with our members of Feminist Podcasters Collective. One, so that you get a little face of who's in our community should you be interested in joining us. And two, so that you can learn more about the podcast journey of different folks, because every podcast journey looks different. Every podcast is not the same. And I think it's important to learn from all sorts of people. So today we have Lindsay Johnson. What is your show currently called? Or your channel or Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (00:26) My show I I love that you're talking about the different journeys because legit, I'm gonna really throw a wrench in in it right now. So the the podcast was called Work Less Play More, the Work Less Play More podcast, but I actually shifted it to the playing big podcast. And I really wanted to talk about how we can think big, play big, take big swings as entrepreneurs. Becky Mollenkamp (00:32) Exactly. I love it. Right. Excellent. Okay. So then let's start, as I've been having everyone do, with you telling me why you podcast. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (00:54) Because people make me Becky Mollenkamp (00:55) Or YouTube. So finish the sentence, the reason I podcast. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (00:58) The reason I podcast is because I am a mouthy cowboy and I got a lot to say when it comes to entrepreneurship, personal growth, you know, social psychology and culture. I got a lot to say and I can't keep my mouth shut. Becky Mollenkamp (01:12) And that is a good enough reason. That's what I love about podcasting and or YouTubing, which we're gonna talk about, is that everyone gets to have a mic. If you have a mic, you get to use your voice and people get to hear it if they want. And peop the people for whom that message resonates, the other mouthy cowboys, will show up and listen. They'll be like, I love this mouthy cowboy. So, Lindsay, tell me about this evolution. Let's start at the beginning and work towards where we are now so that maybe that helps to inform where we are now. When did you start podcasting and how did it look when it was and did it start as work hard? Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (01:22) Is it? Yeah. Becky Mollenkamp (01:39) Play more or Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (01:41) Work less, play more. Becky Mollenkamp (01:42) We're a glass play why would you work hard? We're at glass play more. Sorry, my brain's not working. so yes, tell us about the journey, where where it started. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (01:49) So when I I joke when I say that people made me do it. And it's because I was really getting pestered by by folks in my world to start a podcast. and I knew that I wouldn't be able to manage it on my own. I just was too busy. And so I waited till I was in a position to be able to hire people to help me produce it and edit it and stuff. that was in 2021. And I I originally started with a YouTube channel in 2020. Actually the podcast might have been 2022. Anyways, I originally started with the podcast in 2020 or the YouTube in 2020. And I and I quickly found that creating both YouTube content and podcast content, it was it was too much. I'm a busy working business owner. And so that's where I say this evolution is really happening right now because it's sort of like the podcast kind of gets like an afterthought. If I do a cool interview, I'll put it on the podcast. Or if I if I make a video on YouTube, I'll put it on the podcast. The podcast has been a bit of an off afterthought. And so I'm working at going, how can I create content intentionally that works for both places, but I kind of wouldn't mind popping on the podcast from time to time just for me to say, hey, here's what I'm thinking about. Are you thinking about the same thing? And just making it a little more unofficial for me. So I can have fun, being mouthy, sharing my thoughts, right? Connecting with the with the community without feeling overwhelmed of the sort of that traditional, you know, podcasting Hoopla because there's a lot more than just recording a a a podcast episode. Becky Mollenkamp (03:13) So some people, you know, a big debate or conversation, let's say, is not a debate, a conversation happening in the podcasting space right now is around video and whether podcasting should remain audio only, audio first. What does it mean to do a video first podcast? Is video the only way forward? All of this because YouTube really, in the last few years, has come on strong in the podcasting space by really trying to create podcasting as a separate. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (03:22) Mm-hmm. Becky Mollenkamp (03:42) component within YouTube and really driving that home. And then obviously we've seen the follow where Spotify added video. Now Apple's adding video, Netflix is in on the game, right? So the this video component is a thing that scares some people off, but then there are people who are really excited about it. So what is it for you that appeals to you about video and about going sort of video first and And the traditional audio component is kind of the afterthought versus the other way around, which is I think for a lot of people right now who started audio first, they're sort of doing the audio and the video is kind of the afterthought. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (04:14) Not. okay. So when I was playing with how I wanted my content, and again, guys, I'm in the messy middle, okay? The messy middle. Right. Becky Mollenkamp (04:22) Yeah, I love the men as you may know, I love the messy metal because this is no one needs just the pretty fall polished after. That doesn't tell us about that doesn't tell us anything, right? It doesn't that doesn't really help me. I wanna know the what's happening that's making that, getting you there. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (04:35) Yeah. Well, and in fact I just did a poll out to my community and I was like, What kind of YouTube videos do you guys want me to make? And a lot of them were like, We want to see the behind the scenes, we want to see you experiment with things and what did you learn and what worked and right? Like that there there is that hunger for that. And you know, when I was playing with what do I want the future of my content to look like, I had debated just closing the podcast completely. And I had other people say, No, no, no, no, no, like keep making it because I like to listen while I'm out walking or out walk driving or whatever, right? Doing chores. So my thoughts are do what you want to do and do what your audience wants you to do. So that's those are my thoughts. And so, you know, I like video. I've I was doing Facebook lives, right? And then that came into like YouTube, and then that came into, you know what mean? Like I love video. I think the reason video is growing is because we like seeing each other. We like being in the room. The the magic of podcasting is that you always felt like you were in the room. You know that meme where you're like, you're listening to the the podcast just trying to remember the name of a movie and you're shouting into your microphone or your headphones, you know, it's it's this, it's this. Podcasts really do bring you in. Video brings you in further. So I love video. I just love video. I I do well on video. People love watching my videos. I have more fun with video. I can do fun editing and b-roll and gifts, and you know, I I really like video content. But my answer to people when they come to me and ask what I should do, it's like, well, what do you want to do? What do you like doing? What does your audience want? I I don't think it has to be an either or. It's a it's a whatever you want, man. It's the wild, wild S out there of content. You make what you want because non-video podcasts still perform very, very, very well. It's just that I think as a human, you know, I think we connect more to to video. Becky Mollenkamp (06:15) Well, and you mentioned at the beginning of this about the transition, part of it being like workload, right? Which we can all relate to of when you're running a business, it's all the things and it feels like there's the pressure to be in all the places and produce all the things and create all the content. Well, right. And and so it feels like a lot. And I think one of the reasons some podcasters are like, I don't know about video, is it it feels like more work. But you're saying I kind of want to go video because it feels like less work. So tell me what that looks like for you. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (06:42) Okay, so you're already recording with somebody, whether like you know what I mean? Like under so I sorry, no, let me let me take that back. If you're an interview-style podcast, you're already recording with somebody. So you're hit record on video too. Done, right? Like it's it's already there. And a lot of times, even if there's no video component to your podcast, people will still take clips of the recording session to use as promotional material for social social media, right? But I do know what you mean if you are not comfortable on video and you're used to just reading off your notes into your podcast, into your microphone, you know, yeah, that's a lot easier for sure, right? It's for sure it is. So I think that the hard work isn't necessarily because the editing is the same, the scripting is the same, the upload, it's all the same. I think the hard work is getting comfortable being on video. I think that's the hard work because truly the work is the exact same. It's the exact same. So, so one of the coolest things that we've seen, if do you follow is Matt Matt Bern Bernstein? A little bit fruity. Yeah. Right. And so one of the things I love with his podcast is he he, right? He? Becky Mollenkamp (07:39) Yeah, love, love, love, love, love. I honestly don't know. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (07:47) I I believe I will go with they. So one of the things with with with their their podcast is that they read their notes. Like I I tell people all the time, right? Like you can read your notes. You don't have to memorize a script and stare at a screen. You don't have to use a teleprompter. You can have your notes on your I have my second monitor. Have them here, have them here. You can read them, right? And so I think that I think it's just that it's just the getting over the hump of feeling comfortable on camera. That's the hard work. Becky Mollenkamp (08:12) Yeah, and it and so much of that is the mental game, right? Because I think when you're talking about just hit record, whatever, I think I can hear people that I've heard say things like, Yeah, but then I gotta do my hair and I gotta do my makeup and the lighting needs to look great, and the you know, it's what's my backdrop and all of the stuff. And some of it might be real, but also some of it is does it matter to you, right? And because and to your audience. Like my audience at this point, I have groomed them well enough to know like. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (08:16) no. Fair enough. Becky Mollenkamp (08:40) You better you're just gonna expect me to show up as I am, because that's how I am. Right? Like there's no perfection here. That's not our pursuit. I'm not interested in it. But for other people, maybe there's the audience, it is a real concern, right? So I guess some of that is some of it's internal, some of it might be external. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (08:55) I'm also going to push back on that and be like, yo, are y'all just making excuses? Because do you wanna be a content creator or not? Like it you know what I mean? It's like it's like saying, I don't know if I wanna get a job because then I'm gonna have to put pants on, and then I'm gonna put a bra, and then I'm gonna have to get shoes on. Like, also, yeah, like if you wanna if you wanna make video and you wanna look good, you're gonna have to look good and you're gonna have to make video. So, so I get a little Annoyed as you can tell when people are using excuses as actual legitimate things. It's like, well, no, if you want to look good on camera, looking good on camera is what's required to look good on camera. Like the I want to eat eat dinner, but I don't want to make dinner. Well, then you're not gonna eat dinner. You know what I mean? So I just think also you need to check in sometimes when you're just making silly excuses and get out of the drama in your head and get dressed and hit record. Becky Mollenkamp (09:43) Right, because sometimes i listen, and some of those excuses may or may not be like real forces, like I get. But then I also sometimes I think it can be, like you're saying, excusing myself from having to do the thing that scares me. Because maybe showing up on camera is scary for you. And and there may be very valid reasons why, right? Because perhaps you have you hold an identity where there's going to be comments just because of the nature of your identity, you're gonna get comments. And so then it's some of that like, am I able to Have I done the work to be able to manage what the feelings that come up or the you know, whatever? Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (10:17) And and and here's the thing, Becky. I'm getting sassy today. What did I say? I have a loud mouth. I can't, I can't keep my mouth shut. everyone gets everybody gets comments. You can be the most pristine picture of perfection and you know, Eurocentric beauty standards and this, that, and the other. Everybody gets hate comments. This is a thing, you know, when I started working or creating on TikTok, it was under another brand that I have have since kind of closed down and walked away from. Becky Mollenkamp (10:24) You're allowed cowboy. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (10:43) But I was creating content there and I was so nervous because I'm like, I know that I'm gonna get all these hit trolls, all these hate comments. Can I handle it? And I was talking with a friend and she was like, dude, of course you're going to. But if you're not gonna make content because you're worried what they're gonna say, they've already won, they've already chased you off the platform before you even started. And so there again, everyone's a critic, everyone's a hater, everybody gets comments. And what you have to realize, again, as a content creator. That comes with the job. It's like when we worked at the I had restaurants growing up, my family had restaurants working at the restaurant. There were always employees that wanted to sue because they were unhappy with their hours. Or there was always, you know, customers coming saying there was something wrong with their food. Or there was always people that were mad that we were closed on a certain holiday. Like literally humans be hating. And so you have to you have to separate yourself from other people's shit. Can I swear? Other people's stuff. You have to separate yourself. You have to realize like that's about them. If someone's gonna criticize or complain or or or hate on you, that a person who loves themselves and is healthy and happy and adjust well adjusted doesn't do that. So you have to you have to see that that is a that person's need they need therapy. They got some stuff going on that has nothing, nothing to do with you. And and so again, like we cannot Becky Mollenkamp (11:37) For work. Tim, not you. Yeah. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (11:59) We just cannot live our lives because somebody else hasn't gone to therapy. Like we just can't do that. You you gotta you gotta show up how you are. And I wanna say more thing, Becky, and that is that my content, I don't make content as a content creator, at least not at this point. I make content as a business owner to support my business goals. And Becky Mollenkamp (12:05) Yeah. Well, I just want to quickly say I'm glad you're mentioning that because you keep saying if you're if you're gonna be a content creator, you wanna be a con and I think I think that's part of it is a lot of business owners are thinking, I'm a business owner, I don't wanna be a content creator, I have to create content for my business. So I I continue. I just wanna say I'm glad you're addressing that. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (12:30) Yeah. Yes. Well, because those are two different things, right? And so, like, if you want to be a content creator, meaning that you are intentionally creating content to build an audience, to monetize that audience at some point, you know, like there's just things that come with the job. It just it is what it is. If you're a business owner who is creating content to drive leads, right? Or to drive online sales, like you're using it to create to create business, to create money, that you're selling your own stuff. Right. You know, that is different because then you need to think about first of all from a strategic perspective, what is the content and what is the the the modality, like the is it thro the medium, I'll say, is it YouTube, is it podcast, is it blog? You gotta think of the medium and the type of content that is strategically aligned with your audience, with your customer, with your sales pipelines, right? But then also you do think of that brand you wanna put out there. Like what is, are you the face of the brand? Are you doing faceless videos? Like, like Or or Facebook podcasts, like what is the the face of that brand? And if you're the face of that brand, then yeah, you're gonna want to show up at representing your brand the same way you would if you were speaking on a stage or on a panel somewhere, right? So again, just understanding why are you making this content in the first place. And again, I just challenge you to accept the parts of it that are maybe are uncomfortable but are a part of the process and get out of the drama and attachment to that and just see it as neutral and as part of the thing because babies. You got way cooler things to do with your life than get caught up in in online drama. Becky Mollenkamp (13:57) No joke. So then let's ask that question for you. As a business owner who's using content as a as a tool inside of your business, not a content creator in the way that you've outlined, why video for you? Is it because you like I know you mentioned you asked your audience what they want, but you sort of said there's the two buckets, what do I want? What do they want? And is it because that's where it collides for you and it just feels like video is the place? Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (14:07) huh. That's exactly it. Like I said, I got my start doing Facebook Lives. my gosh, can I tell you, friends? When Facebook Lives first came out, okay, it took me, it took me though, it took me one year, one year of making excuses, of being nervous, of having imposter syndrome, of like da-da-da-da-da-da. So when I'm like yelling at y'all, I'm not saying I don't also go through the exact same process, but it took me a year. And and a lot of that also is just, I'm a big, like, I like to. Becky Mollenkamp (14:26) I knew the good old days. Mm. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (14:46) It takes me a while sometimes to understand concepts and understand how things work. And also, I'm a busy business owner. But when I finally got on there, the floodgates were opened. I was doing them three times a week. I was doing them with myself, I was doing interviews with people. So I just fell in love with video marketing very quickly, you know. I mean, I grew up doing drama and being on plays and playing sports and performing dances. I've I've always I've I've always give me a stage, baby, give me a stage. And so for me, that was the route I went. And then I actually took a this course with Sunny Letterduzi about like creating a YouTube channel as a business owner, right? It was it's old school, old, old, old. and so I I did that and I started to build out funnels and did the thing. So it's like it just organically grew. and then, you know, and again, you if y'all go to my YouTube channel, it's you'll see I made videos consistently five years ago, and then they just really dropped off because I got busy. But but you'll see that or w this natural organic thing, it's like the nature of video allows me to do things like teach business skills or or like like I can like I can show. On a podcast you have to tell. It's always limited, right? On video I can show and I do a lot of showing on my videos. So it just it just makes sense as a medium for the type of content I want to make and for what my community wants to consume in terms of the that type of content. So that's why I say you need to think about what is the kind of content you're sharing and what is the medium that makes sense for you. Becky Mollenkamp (16:11) Yeah. And let's talk polish. We've talked a little bit about like visual appearance polish, but I'm just the polish of the video. Cause you mentioned B-roll, GIFs, things like that that you can add, but we've also talked a lot about going live. And we're live. Kevin Chung, who's a member of the podcast collective, is d does lives all the time on Substack or you know, YouTube, you can do lives. I really enjoy the live because it frees me from the worries about perfection and polish, and I feel like it just broadcasts right away. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (16:14) Mm-hmm. Yeah. Becky Mollenkamp (16:39) You don't come expecting that. We're live, so I can't add the bells and the whistles. It is gonna be what it is. And I feel some freedom in that that I think when we talk about what holds people back from videos like that polish. But where where do you follow that? How much of what you're doing is live versus edited? And when you're doing edited, how concerned do you get about polish? Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (16:58) You nailed it, Becky. Okay. So when someone is new to to videos and and is thinking of a video podcast, I tell them go live because it forces you to get it right the first time. It forces you. It's it's a your energy is totally different when you come and it's live or with a guest and it's live. We should share the link to our YouTube live that we did together as well. And and so so we had a great YouTube live. Anyway, so so yeah, going live is Becky Mollenkamp (17:16) yeah. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (17:22) It might seem really nerve-wracking, but it it really is the best way to get great content that you can then literally repurpose into a podcast. You can edit, excuse me, when I'm editing, I only edit out really obvious things. I leave all the ums and the ahs and the likes and whatever in because that's how we all talk and that's fine. That's normal. That's not gonna deter someone from listening. So yeah, going live and and then if you want, I I don't quite I haven't quite cracked the code on this for myself. But there are people who will do a live. What is his name? I can't think of his name right now, but he'll go live for like four or five hours. And he talks about so many things. And then I can't think of his name right now. Anyways, and then once he's done, he then takes those lives and puts them into individual videos. Right. And so I have tried that as a format before. I haven't got that format quite smooth enough yet for for me. They're a bit clunky. Becky Mollenkamp (17:55) my gosh. Mm. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (18:16) you know, but you can re-re-edit a live and turn it into a video. You can leave it up as a live, you can put it into a podcast. You can do whatever you want, right? You know, when it comes to actual pre-recorded videos, here's what I say to that. If you're new, just do talking head. Just put yourself on screen and talk. And then when you're editing, if there's points that you made that you want to stand out, go to Canva and create just a a a a little card. Becky Mollenkamp (18:24) Yeah. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (18:39) that reiterates the point and then throw it into the editing software and go here at this point I'm gonna flash this on screen just to give it a bit of visual interest, right? Visually interesting. But like just talking head it, it's fine. And then as you get more comfortable with editing or you have a budget and you can hire support with editing, then you can add lots of b-roll and gifs or or sound effects or whatever, right? I think people see the big, big YouTubers who have like, you know, hundreds of thousands, if not millions of following followers and they've got Becky Mollenkamp (18:59) Yeah. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (19:08) paid people like people are paid to edit all that stuff, right? They're not necessarily doing that themselves, right? And so, or if they are, they have developed this skill over years, right? So I think just friggin' hit record and go. Somebody once said this, and and Becky, I'm sure you said this before too, right? If you don't look back at your or like original early content and cringe just a little, you waited too long to start. Yeah. You waited too long to start. Right. And so and so whoops, sorry, I've got to Becky Mollenkamp (19:28) A lot. Exactly. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (19:34) Warning on my thing. Anyways, and so you know, like just get started. Know that you'll get better, your editing will get smoother and the polish will come. Have a decent mic, have some good lighting, and my god. Becky, the amount of podcaster or YouTubers that I follow, when they got their beginning, they're sitting on their floor against their bed. And that's how they're recording. Like it doesn't matter. If the content is good, people will listen. Becky Mollenkamp (19:54) There are Twitch folks, and I'm not a Twitcher, but there are Twitch folks that I see where I'm like, their setting couldn't be more atrocious and they have millions of followers. Right. I think some of it, like you said, going back to the beginning of this, it's some of it is excuses and or just mental blocks that we have that we're making excuses for. And we just have to do it. so yeah, I agree. And just as a Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (20:12) Just do it. Becky Mollenkamp (20:14) Just as a point, like that part where I had you say the reason I podcast is, is because I already have plans for all of these. I'm going to be taking all of those from these conversations and turning them into something that I can then repurpose for the podcast collective in different places. So, like with a very small amount of thinking ahead, you can do things like that. But also, I mean, thanks to AI, whether we like it or not. Most platforms now they just generate clips for you too. So it's really easy then to share clips as YouTube shorts or, you know, on social media. And so it's really easy to get to make your content go farther. And you can do the same with audio, but when you do video first, audio's easy. Because like you said, then you can just you can throw things on your podcast feed anytime. So Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (20:55) The amount of times that like back when I was in a regular schedule with my podcasting where I was like, I haven't had time to make a podcast today. I would just go grab an old YouTube video and just rip the audio and do a new intro and put it up. Like that that's the thing, right? Like it is Becky Mollenkamp (21:06) Yeah. And don't undersell that because we always think it's gotta be new, it's gotta be new, but that's gonna be new to ninety nine percent of people, right? 'Cause people cycle through content and and and people they're following, you've got a whole new audience years later. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (21:19) Yeah. Well, and even like the amount of times that I'll like again, not now, but back in the day, would just go read a blog. I'm like, I wrote a blog on this, or I wrote a LinkedIn article on this. I'm gonna go just read it into my podcast, Mike, and add a few extra questions. Because here's the thing, okay, and I don't say that, like like the blogs are good. The questions that I add are good. Like it's not like it's not like the content's kind of crappy. It's good content. Here's the thing. However you deliver it, video, audio, background polish, if the content is good, people will consume it. Becky Mollenkamp (21:47) Exactly. Exactly. And we create so much content now that it's it's mind-blowing. And we should be reusing that content. So I can't recommend that enough. I think that's fantastic. Okay, I I wanna be mindful because I'm trying to keep these under 30 minutes. I wanna wrap up here with as somebody who is doing video first, and i you're a YouTuber, I guess. who also there has a Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (21:55) Mm-hmm. Aspiring. Becky Mollenkamp (22:09) Yeah, who also has a podcast feed where you're occasionally putting things and kind of playing with both. Why be part of, and I hope I'm not talking you out of, why be part of Feminist Podcasters Collective? Do you think of yourself as a podcaster? Is there, you know what I mean? For those people who are doing you video first, YouTube led, I don't know if they're th do you think of yourself as a podcaster now or like where are you ahead? Where's your head at with all that? Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (22:29) So that is is a great question. And and whenever I go to the the feminist podcast collective gatherings, I'm always inspired to get back into doing more podcasting first stuff. So, but am I, I mean, here and here's the thing, if you go to my podcast, there the the there's some overlap with YouTube, but it's mostly original content and it's a lot of interviews and things like that, right? am I a podcaster? Am I a YouTuber? Becky Mollenkamp (22:48) Yeah. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (22:52) I say yes with an with an asterisk. You know, I say yes with a bit of imposter syndrome because I'm not as I'm not big, I'm not as consistent as I'd like to be. It is something that I'm I'm working to create space in my calendar to be able to do more because I do want to say podcaster and YouTuber, but I do feel a little bit like I can't quite claim that title the way that other folks in the feminist podcast past feminist podcast collective can. And so I go there. To be inspired. I go there to to connect with others and hear what they're making and what they're doing. And like it, it is, it is creating content is such a heart-led, soul nourishing, raw human thing, you know? And I love being amongst people who who are in that and doing that and and getting that inspiration that I don't get in the same way when I'm at a conference or an event talking about. Business stuff. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Becky Mollenkamp (23:48) Yeah. Yeah. Well, and I would just say I think the lines have gotten so blurred be in the last two years because YouTube really has gotten into the podcast game and and really has been a bit of a leader in changing what we know about podcasting. And do I think audio first or audio led is really the heart of podcasting? Absolutely. And I I'm not here to fight with anybody about it. That said, I think there is something to be said for those folks who are leaning more into video, still maintaining a podcast feed, reimagining how they're using that, doing some overlap, doing original content, whatever that looks like, even if it is I'm a YouTuber and I have a podcast feed where I drop the audio of my YouTubes. You're still a podcaster, I think. And so I just want to throw that out there that I think it's it's I I I think the medium is important. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (24:23) You know. Becky Mollenkamp (24:36) But I also think it's about the experience. The and the experience to me is am I creating intimate spaces to have conversations with my community? Right. And and I think that's sort of the heart of what podcasting's about. So I say you should own it. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (24:39) Mm-hmm. Yeah, and I think that's I think it's the heart of content creation, period. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Becky Mollenkamp (24:55) Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Anything about this journey, because like I said, that's really what I want to share in this series, is everyone's journey with podcasting in relationship to it is going to look different and it evolves. I every person I've talked to, their journey has evolved and it does not look the same on day three hundred versus one hundred versus one and so on. Anything else about your journey that we didn't talk about that you'd want to make sure that I include as we wrap up here. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (25:18) Hmm, I think, you know, I consistently get really positive feedback on my YouTubes, on my podcasts. again, like I said, the podcast does have a ton of original content and original interviews that are not anywhere else. And I'm constantly getting great feet feedback. And, you know, to to s hear myself answer, I don't feel like a podcaster, I don't feel like a YouTuber, and yet I make podcasts and I make YouTube and they are impacting people. I think the thing would be that, you know, don't undervalue yourself and your voice in the content you're creating, even if you're still small. Because I definitely can hear myself doing it now, as I'm in my messy middle, for what? Becky Mollenkamp (25:55) You need to watch this video back and hear yourself because you will tell yourself, stop it. That's all like excuses or BS or whatever the truth is. If you do the thing, you are the thing, right? Like if you put a podcast out and even and not a single person listens, you're still a podcaster. You're still doing it, right? And don't give up. Like it evolve. I think of evolution is great. but don't just don't discount yourself. Don't give up. So Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (26:00) Yeah. Becky Mollenkamp (26:19) Thank you, Lindsay. Everybody needs a loud cowboy and somebody who can put them into shape when they start to let their excuses get the better of them. So thank you for being that. Thank you for being part of the podcast collective. I guess the only other thing I didn't ask you is just like, and I I think you kinda answered it with the inspiration, but just to make sure, what role does having a community play for you in podcasting? Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (26:20) Exactly. Ha ha ha. Yeah. It's lit it's literally that. It literally is inspiration, motivation, creative ideas and idea sharing, troubleshooting. You know, it it is if you are a content creator, you need to be in a space with other content creators because that is a very specific journey that you're traveling and you want to have people that get it traveling with you. It is, it is what's the word? Invaluable. Becky Mollenkamp (27:03) Yeah. So check out the Feminist Podcasters Collective. You can go to feministpods.com or wherever you are, check us out. and you can join Lindsay, me, and all the other people in this series. And Lindsay, where do people go to watch your YouTube videos and or your substack I mean your podcast or just learn about listen? It's kinda like all the places. But anyway, sorry, my brain is like frying. It's afternoon. Go ahead. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (27:19) Podcast. We didn't even talk about Substack. Let's not add that into the mix. So if you if you you can go to the radical connector dot com and you'll get access to my podcast there. you can find me on you YouTube under the radical connector. you know, or go to Instagram and the links in my bio. Everything is in there. So on Instagram, I'm radical lens, YouTube the radical connector or the radicalconnector.com. Becky Mollenkamp (27:48) Perfect. Thank you for doing this, Lindsay. I really appreciate it. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (27:51) This has been a lot of fun. Thank you so much, Becky. Becky Mollenkamp (27:54) Well, anytime we go live we could talk probably for five hours, but we're gonna stop ourselves. I'm I'm really trying to be mindful of like what I know, I know. All right, thank you. Lindsay Johnson (they/them) (28:00) Very, very good. Well done.