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55KRC Thursday Show - Warren Davidson, Russ Neville, Judge King, Jay Ratliff · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: The talk station five O five.
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  Speaker 2: A fifty five k r C, the talk station Friday Eve.
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  Speaker 3: Some sillation.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the way.
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  Speaker 2: The news go. It is apparent. Let me thank you
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  Speaker 2: Joe Tracker for the sound by Brian Thomas right here,
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  Speaker 2: host of the fifty five KRC Morning Show, which I
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  Speaker 2: enjoyed doing and coming up. I love guests of the
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  Speaker 2: Morning Show. Rather talk to guests and hear the sound
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  Speaker 2: of my own voice. But I also love talking to
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  Speaker 2: you listeners. Is enjoyable. It is is talking with Congressman
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  Speaker 2: Warren Davidson, he's coming up at seven oh five. But
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  Speaker 2: as long as be engaged in exchange and back and
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  Speaker 2: forth and uh, you know, uh discuss concepts and ideas,
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  Speaker 2: that's what I believe. The Morning Show is all about
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  Speaker 2: looking through the fog of the media bias and trying
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  Speaker 2: to get to the bottom line on things logic and reason.
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  Speaker 2: Logic and reason. Five on three, seven nine fifty five hundred,
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  Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty two to three Talk pound five
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  Speaker 2: Get it through, Joe Strecker, You got to get through
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  Speaker 2: the gatekeeper coming up at seven to five. As I mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: Congressman Davidson, followed by Russ Neville. If you don't know,
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  Speaker 2: Russ Neville family is a storied law enforcement family and
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  Speaker 2: he happens to be police Chiefdiji's brother Russ Uh obviously
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  Speaker 2: read the report that was released from the City of Cincinnati,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, widely condemned.
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  Speaker 4: I was.
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  Speaker 2: I had a field day with it yesterday, just because,
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  Speaker 2: like I started out by pointing out, who who among
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  Speaker 2: us doesn't have a criticism over our masters are? Are
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  Speaker 2: our bosses at work? I mean, I've never been at
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  Speaker 2: a job where I didn't have some measure of criticism.
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  Speaker 2: If if somebody's going to ask you, you got a free
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  Speaker 2: shot on goal. Every front line worker knows that they
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  Speaker 2: could run the company better than their boss, right at
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  Speaker 2: least a lot of them. And if you don't go
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  Speaker 2: around and interview everybody and ask everybody's opinion, your hand
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  Speaker 2: selected group of thirty two people that you interview out
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  Speaker 2: of hundreds of possible opinions might be biased. And that,
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  Speaker 2: of course comes very comes through. And when you read
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  Speaker 2: this so called report, it's a summary report, no attachments,
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  Speaker 2: no exhibits, no quotes or anything from those that were interviewed.
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  Speaker 2: And the bias is obvious when you read it, and
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  Speaker 2: Russ Neville will go ahead and offer his comments in studio.
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  Speaker 2: Russ looking forward to having you sitting across from me
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  Speaker 2: at seven thirty eight oh five with Judge Andrew King,
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  Speaker 2: who is running for the Ohio Supreme Court, which will
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  Speaker 2: be a good conversation. And finally I heard mediaviation expert
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  Speaker 2: Jay Rytt of Great Topics go over with Jay, which
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  Speaker 2: is always the case, always the case. Well, it looks
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  Speaker 2: like the shutdown. We're gonna talk about the shutdown with
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  Speaker 2: Congressman Davidson among other topics. We looks like they have
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  Speaker 2: a deal to end the shutdown. Many are suggesting this
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  Speaker 2: was capitulation on the part of Johnson and Thune, the
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  Speaker 2: Republicans caving into the Democrats. Although the Democrats really don't
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  Speaker 2: get anything they block funding. So the idea to two
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  Speaker 2: track approach passed the bill to fund most of DHS
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  Speaker 2: but of course not ICE, as well as parts of
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  Speaker 2: the Custom and Border Patrol. Then in a separate reconciliation
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  Speaker 2: bill see either forcing the Democrats are forcing the Republicans
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  Speaker 2: go through the hoops. You only need fifty one votes
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  Speaker 2: to pass the bill into reconciliation. This is a budget item.
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  Speaker 2: Budget items can be passed under reconciliation without the sixty
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  Speaker 2: vote threshold on the Senate. So do this. Democrats can
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  Speaker 2: say they run around and crow about ICE not being funded.
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  Speaker 2: We carved ice out. We carved you know, there's not
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  Speaker 2: going to be any customer and border money in this
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  Speaker 2: particular bill, which will end the government shutdown and get
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  Speaker 2: our TSA agents paid. And then fast forward to the
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  Speaker 2: reconciliation bill, which presumably will pass with one hundred percent
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  Speaker 2: Republican approval. There may be some holdouts, and then we'll
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  Speaker 2: be back to where the Republicans want it all along.
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  Speaker 2: ICE will be fully funded and the government will be
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  Speaker 2: back open. And the Democrats don't get anything by way
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  Speaker 2: of the demands they made in terms of reforming ICE.
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  Speaker 2: They don't get their judicial warrant demands, they don't get
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  Speaker 2: their you know, mask demands, they don't get their identification
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  Speaker 2: all the things that they were demanding, including cameras on
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  Speaker 2: ICE agents, which I will, again, as I always do,
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  Speaker 2: interject that those protect the ICE agents more than they
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  Speaker 2: protect the general public. Nobody is arguing in favor of
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  Speaker 2: not having cameras on ICE agents I suppose that just
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  Speaker 2: becomes a budgetary matter. But there you have it. So
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  Speaker 2: they're on a track to reopen the government. You got
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  Speaker 2: to get the House back from their little vacation, as
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  Speaker 2: well as the Senate too, So it looks like it
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  Speaker 2: is going to reopen and call it positive, call it negative.
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  Speaker 2: I think in terms of declaring victory, it looks to
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  Speaker 2: be like a wash. And congratulations obviously to the crew
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  Speaker 2: and every single human being behind the Artemis two successful
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  Speaker 2: launch yesterday. I don't know if you watch it. I did,
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  Speaker 2: and who among us could watch that without thinking of
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  Speaker 2: the Challenger disaster and just having you like you're just
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  Speaker 2: sort of sitting on the edge of your seat, just waiting.
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  Speaker 2: It's like any second, any second, any second. Fortunately, that
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  Speaker 2: did not happen. Successful launch, and of course there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of challenges with the rest of the mission, but
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  Speaker 2: Artemis two and at least by all accounts on its
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  Speaker 2: way going to loop around the Moon farther than any
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  Speaker 2: rocket has gone before and come back and re enter
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  Speaker 2: the atmosphere. It's Artemist two, followed by three four, and
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  Speaker 2: I think it's Artemis five mission, which is going to
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  Speaker 2: start building a moon base I'll let you decide amongst
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  Speaker 2: yourself whether the resources of taxpayer dollars and it's billions
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  Speaker 2: and billions going into the space program is going to
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  Speaker 2: yield any fruit or provide society with a benefit. Many
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  Speaker 2: argue yes, many argued no. Here we are. The decision
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  Speaker 2: was made after multiple administrations, both Republican and Democrat, decided
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  Speaker 2: they were going to reinvigorate the space program, which went
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  Speaker 2: by the way of the DODO in the early seventies
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  Speaker 2: after the Apollo program. Is over money, Yeah, a challenging
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  Speaker 2: situation in terms of money in the nineteen seventies, and
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  Speaker 2: I believe that's why they stopped well pumping billions of
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  Speaker 2: dollars into the space program. But we're back in those
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  Speaker 2: days now. Quite a couple of administrations in a row
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  Speaker 2: doing that, and that's how we get to the point
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  Speaker 2: where we could launch that rocket yesterday. Start and stop,
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  Speaker 2: start and stop, start and stop. There you have it.
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  Speaker 2: Jay is on the phone. Jay, thanks for calling this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Morning Show.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, good morning, Brian. Hey don't forget we did get
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  Speaker 5: panged from all those billions.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's right, thank you. Jay. You know I was
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  Speaker 2: a little kid, you know, I was four years old
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  Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty nine, but I had the benefit of
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  Speaker 2: all the cool Apollo stuff, the little lunar rover replica toys,
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  Speaker 2: the tang which everybody wanted to even know it tasted
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  Speaker 2: like crabs, like come on, this is what the astronauts drink.
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  Speaker 2: And space food. There was little packages of not aluminum foil,
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  Speaker 2: but packaged food just like the astronauts had, and you
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  Speaker 2: could pretend you're an astronaut and tear the top off
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  Speaker 2: of it and eat the space food. So anyway, lots
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  Speaker 2: of fun from when I was a childhood child. So
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  Speaker 2: maybe those memories would be space for young people these days.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, the reason for the call. I'm going to go
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  Speaker 5: a little bit of a different direction today with the
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  Speaker 5: Passover season. And I prefer to call it Passover because
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  Speaker 5: you won't find the word Easter in the Bible, because
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  Speaker 5: Easter is a derivative of Ishtar, which is a pagan
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  Speaker 5: god of sex and war. Thus, the fertility of Easter
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  Speaker 5: bunny is that what all comes.
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  Speaker 2: From Easter bunnies and eggs has always been a mystery
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  Speaker 2: to me. Yes, when you're a kid, it's awesome. Let's
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  Speaker 2: search for eggs. It makes extra extra special. There's a
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  Speaker 2: little things in the eggs. Bumb and Dad put candy
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  Speaker 2: in there. Sometimes they put quarters in the eggs, and
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  Speaker 2: Grandpa would go hide him in the yard. What does
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  Speaker 2: that got to do with Jesus Christ anyhow?
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  Speaker 5: Sorry, nothing, No, that's okay.
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  Speaker 4: It had nothing to do.
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  Speaker 5: It was a compromise with the Catholic Church when they
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  Speaker 5: were expanding, got into some pagan areas and said, well,
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  Speaker 5: you know what, let's compromise with them and give them
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  Speaker 5: this pagan ritual. Art will combine it with Passover, and
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  Speaker 5: it all became is Easter, which is Ishtar, but it's
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  Speaker 5: Passover and the reason words matter. And I don't have
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  Speaker 5: a whole lot of time obviously, But John three sixteen says,
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  Speaker 5: for God so loved the world that he gave his
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  Speaker 5: one and only son, that whosoever believes that's the verb,
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  Speaker 5: you don't have to work for it. Whoever believes in
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  Speaker 5: him shall not perish, but have eternal life. So he
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  Speaker 5: was the past, the perfect lamb of God sinless life.
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  Speaker 5: He was the only one who could die on that
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  Speaker 5: cross to take our substitutionary place for God's wrath for
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  Speaker 5: our sin. So when he died. If we accept him,
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  Speaker 5: and it's as easy as accepting the gift. If we
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  Speaker 5: accept that gift, our eternity is assured and we don't
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  Speaker 5: have to wonder about what happens after this. So what
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  Speaker 5: I would encourage everybody this season is take that word out,
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  Speaker 5: pass that on. That's the last thing Christ said before
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  Speaker 5: he ascended into heaven has take the gospel throughout the world.
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  Speaker 5: And if you haven't accepted that gift, or if you're
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  Speaker 5: not sure about your reality, the word here John three
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  Speaker 5: point sixteen is believe. You don't have to work for it.
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  Speaker 5: If you're working for it, you're trying to earn it.
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  Speaker 5: The Bible says none of us are worthy, no, not one.
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  Speaker 5: He had to pay that. This is what it's all about.
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  Speaker 5: He paid our sind debt on that cross.
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  Speaker 4: Accept it.
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  Speaker 5: Don't think about do I do more good than bad?
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  Speaker 4: Do I have a ledger? You do not.
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  Speaker 5: If you wonder if you're good enough, it's easy you're not.
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  Speaker 4: He is.
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  Speaker 5: We accept that gift, He will welcome you into eternity.
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  Speaker 5: If we try to earn it, we're never going to
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  Speaker 5: get there. So hopefully that helps. And I pray for
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  Speaker 5: everybody in the audience, and of course you and Joe
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  Speaker 5: and everybody else appreciate accept the gifts this past overseason.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks Brian, Sure, Thanks Jay Jay taking an opportunity this
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  Speaker 2: morning on the morning show to proselytize listen your subject
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  Speaker 2: matter when you call here in the fifty five KRC
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  Speaker 2: Morning Show. I always say I am not a theologian,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't play one on radio, but you can
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  Speaker 2: offer your comments and suggestions here in the fifty five
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  Speaker 2: are in the well religious holdy environment right now. I
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  Speaker 2: got invited to a savory yesterday. Thank you, doctor Jay.
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  Speaker 2: I can't make it, but gonna do it next year.
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  Speaker 2: I have been promised since I've never been to a
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  Speaker 2: at the Risover Household, and I'm looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 2: One of the great things about listener lunch yesterday all
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  Speaker 2: the friends we meet in the acquaintance we get. And
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  Speaker 2: thanks again to Liberty Collective for the wonderful, wonderful experience
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  Speaker 2: yesterday at lunch. Don't go away. It's five sixteen right now.
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  Speaker 2: Got plenty to talk about coming up, Hope, you can
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  Speaker 1: This is fifty five KRC an iHeartRadio station.
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  Speaker 2: and T phones. Of course, we can dive on into
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  Speaker 2: the Trump addressed in the nation with regard to the war,
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  Speaker 2: yesterday's speech described as pretty good as a straightforward outreach
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  Speaker 2: the United States of America, our citizens and the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the world too, about the motivations, justifications, and objectives
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  Speaker 2: of the war. At the interject, given the prostilization from Jay, yes,
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  Speaker 2: we hearts and minds of folks. With regard to religion,
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  Speaker 2: it's a difficult pull to try to convince someone not
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  Speaker 2: to believe in their own religion. Good luck with that one.
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  Speaker 2: And that's one of the elements we've got going on
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  Speaker 2: the middle of this war with the Iranians. Put yourself
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  Speaker 2: in a position of an Iranian. Okay, you are weed
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  Speaker 2: to your faith. You think that the United States is
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  Speaker 2: satanic and evil they I mean, they're a Christian nation.
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  Speaker 2: Now we don't fly under a Christian flag. We are
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  Speaker 2: not a theocracy they are. But the perception, of course,
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  Speaker 2: is the evil Satanic United States. And of course those
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  Speaker 2: evil Jews in Israel are coming after us. They don't
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  Speaker 2: see the divine, they don't see religion the same way
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  Speaker 2: we do. They are attacking us and our faith. That's
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  Speaker 2: a tremendous thing to overcome. I mean, if you're attacking
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  Speaker 2: a country and you're only driven by treasure or conquest
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  Speaker 2: or of land, that is completely different than someone who
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  Speaker 2: is coming after you and defending your own faith. That
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  Speaker 2: is something many people are willing to die from it.
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  Speaker 2: That's like I think, for example, if Muslim countries, for example,
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  Speaker 2: theocracies that want to destroy the United States and everything
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  Speaker 2: it's all about for whatever reason that they've come up with,
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  Speaker 2: and they are coming after you, flying under the flag
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  Speaker 2: of the Muslim faith, or pick any other religion, make
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  Speaker 2: one up the widget religion doesn't have to be an
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  Speaker 2: attack on any particular religion. And not suggesting the Muslims
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  Speaker 2: is going to come over here and start attacking the
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  Speaker 2: United States for the purposes of kinning a theocracy in
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  Speaker 2: place here. But if they did, or anything else did,
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  Speaker 2: and I look to my Christian friends in the audience,
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  Speaker 2: and I think, would you not fight. I mean your
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  Speaker 2: very existence worthy of fighting over your religion, the core
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  Speaker 2: of your belief, eternal life and whatever might come after
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  Speaker 2: you die based upon your understanding of what your religion
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  Speaker 2: means and stands for. Yeah, lots of people have died
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  Speaker 2: on the front lines in the name of defending their religion.
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  Speaker 2: It's got more to do about that than I think
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  Speaker 2: than land or conquest. That's at least my perception. That's
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  Speaker 2: something I talked about with retired with tender Colonel Daniel Davis.
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  Speaker 2: We get him every Tuesday in the morning show for
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  Speaker 2: the Daniel Davis Deep Dive, and I brought that up.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, military leaders and people need to factor that
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  Speaker 2: into the equation. Okay, if we're just fighting over a
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  Speaker 2: stretch of land, that may be one thing. But if
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  Speaker 2: we're fighting over eternal damnation or life or things religious,
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  Speaker 2: that is a much, much, much bigger challenge. You can't,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think, shoot your way into getting someone to
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  Speaker 2: capitulate and sort of change their mindset over something they
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  Speaker 2: profoundly believe in in the in I mean to the
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  Speaker 2: depths of their being. Let's se what Dave's God this
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  Speaker 2: morning is. I ramble on apologies for that folks day,
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Saved me from myself.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, good morning, Brian. I was just calling to say
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  Speaker 6: Jay was wrong and the word easter doesn't come from Ishtar.
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  Speaker 6: That's a that's a see fallacy.
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  Speaker 2: This is I don't get this is lit. I don't
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  Speaker 2: get out that road, Dave. I mean, how many versions.
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  Speaker 4: There I heard the other day?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard that before.
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  Speaker 6: No, I just heard this the other day. Because there's
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  Speaker 6: a Bible's color named Wesley Huff if people look them up,
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  Speaker 6: he actually goes through the origins of Easter or Easter.
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  Speaker 6: It is a Germanic word, has nothing to do with
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  Speaker 6: the Middle Eastern word, which is a goddess in the
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  Speaker 6: Middle Eastern countries.
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  Speaker 2: Really bad dust nothing to do with each other. It
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  Speaker 2: was a really bad Dustin Hoffman movie, too, wasn't it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, there you go. But it's a it's a
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  Speaker 6: lot of just because they sound alike, they're two different
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  Speaker 6: they're from two different areas of the world that the
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  Speaker 6: words are there. No, wris just have nothing to do
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  Speaker 6: with each other.
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  Speaker 2: But whether you're right or Jay's right, And I'm not
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  Speaker 2: going to do a coin flip even I personally, we
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  Speaker 2: live with the concept of Easter, and that's what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Where it ultimately came from. Maybe doesn't even matter anymore,
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  Speaker 2: but I still look to bunnies and eggs and scratch
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  Speaker 2: my head. How the hell did that end up happening? Right?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, those types of things they and they also didn't
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  Speaker 6: come from Middle Eastern Those are things that were mixed
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  Speaker 6: in from like cultures, from Germanic cultures up if you
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  Speaker 6: look them up, he explains it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, But whether it's the Middle Easter or some burrough
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  Speaker 2: in New York City where it came from, how do
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  Speaker 2: you get how do you get from Jesus?
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  Speaker 4: But I don't think.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think it's a pagan thing though, that's the
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  Speaker 6: thing I'm saying, there's nothing wrong with.
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  Speaker 7: That.
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  Speaker 2: Of course goes to support the audio suffer the little
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  Speaker 2: children come under me. You can get children to embrace
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  Speaker 2: a concept bigger than the egg or the present because
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  Speaker 2: you bring them and introduce them to the religious concepts,
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  Speaker 2: to a vehicle that who among us wouldn't want free
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  Speaker 2: stuff and things, candy, a celebration, a feast, something to
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  Speaker 2: look forward to.
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  Speaker 6: It sounds like it comes from the communists now.
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  Speaker 2: Here, And we'll go ahead, just throw that out there
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  Speaker 2: to Dave. Why not? I appreciate the balance. See, this
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  Speaker 2: is why I like to show people got an opinion
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  Speaker 2: this way, people got opinion that way. Pick a theologian
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  Speaker 2: that theologian will have an opinion, and to be one
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  Speaker 2: right next to them which will have a different viewpoint
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  Speaker 2: on things. This is why I tend to not dive
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  Speaker 2: in the matters theologic because I'm just not equipped to
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  Speaker 2: be able to grasp and get on top of all
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  Speaker 2: of them. A Happy Friday Eve to you, fifty five
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  Speaker 2: cars dot Comedy. Can't listen live to the judge Ennen
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  Speaker 2: cases and didn't look like it's going to go real
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  Speaker 2: well for Donald Trump in so far as birthright citizenship
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: yesterday based on the questioning and the prior case law.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: So I would not expect a change in that one
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: when we ultimately get the Supreme Court case months from
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: now or the decision months from now. Talk to about
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: polling location consolidations with Hamilin County Board of Elections yesterday,
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Climate County Service, Butler Comic County Veteran Service, Steve Belzo,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: my veteran friends, you can go to a non VA
• 17:36
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• 17:39
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• 17:42
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• 17:44
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• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Great conversation. I thank Joe Strecker for lining up guests,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: and I want to thank each and every person who
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: showed up at Listener lunch yesterday. First thanking Liberty Collective
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: for the cool place that it is. Yeah, if you
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: want to have a good time. I passed this along
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: to my son. I'd said, man, you got to get
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: a crew together and go up to Liberty Collective. But
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: five different restaurants. You got a wall full of beverages.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: It works really well. You go to the bar, give
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: me your credit card. They give you a separate card
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: which activates the little sensors on this giant row of
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: taps which has wine and mixed drinks, and then like
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: fifteen different, twenty different beers. You can pick what you
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: want and then you can just dispense by the ounce.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: You'll get charged for what's the dispense. So you ever
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: order a beer and you just really don't like it.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: No worries there, get a little bit tasted, and you
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: paid for whatever small fraction it costs for that, and
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: then you decide whether or not you want to fill
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: a glass cool place. The owners of the owner and
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: the manager, they're outstanding people. They've got beach volleyball, They've
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: got like three bars, two floors, they've got a simulated
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: golf thing and volleyball. So it's party central at Liberty Collective.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to going back to that place, so
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: big probles for them, and props to the folks that
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: showed up. Thank you to doctor Jay in honor of passover,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: he gave me locks, which you made himself. Can't wait
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: for that. And my barbecue friend Kevin, love you man.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: He makes the best pistrami I think on the planet.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: He keeps improving every I give him a pastrami recipe
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: a while back because he never made it. He has
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: made it now multiple times, and every single time it
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: gets better and better. Kevin, my friend, my shooting buddy,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: You're the best. I just that meal last night of
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: pastrami was just off the charts. Kevin's so great. We
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: asked him to cater my daughter's wedding, So everybody that
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: comes to the wedding is going to be enjoying Kevin's
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: pulled Park barbecue and brisket. Anyway, that's not to overlook
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: my other listener friends at all. It's just a great
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: thing for me. That is one personal benefit that I
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: definitely get. And all the friends that have made it
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: listener to lunch over the years just warms my heart.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: And see all the smiling faces. God bless each and
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: ever one of you. And Annabel was there yesterday, little
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: young lady, she's about maybe eight years old. Our mom
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: brought her there. She listens to the morning show every day.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: So later in the program, I'm gonna give a shout
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: out to her because apparently she's not awake right now,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: So do that in the eight o'clock hour five on three, seven, four,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: nine fifty five, eight two to three talk Yeah. Since
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: they polease Chief DG. The Performance Evaluation released this sort
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: of summary report getting a lot of flak, and we're
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: of course having Russ Novell, her brother on coming up
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: at seven point thirty to get his reaction to that,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: which was also not very positive. As you might imagine, Anyway,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Channel nineteen and The Lexus. Martin interviewed a local any
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: employment attorney named Brian Ridden, who concluded the report seems
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: fairly bare, not referencing witness notes or citing witnesses who
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: are in supporting the chief. He said, listen, if you're
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: trying to do a comprehensive report and lay out something
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: as objective and transparent as you can be, all that
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: information should be in there. He said. The introduction in
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: this summary raises a red flag. Says the report list
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: as a third objective whether the she committed any infraction
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: or policy violation while serving as police chief. Attorney read
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: and said, you know that should have been the very
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: central focus of the investigation, saying why do you bury
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: the lead with the third question being the most important
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: one and then you don't touch on it in the
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: rest of it. It referred to this report that was released.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Is there justifiable cause to terminate the chief of police?
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: Question?
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Mark? That should be the CrOx of the question. Frankly,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: this report doesn't really touch on that issue. Wow, you said,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: if the city fires Fiji and the decision is challenged
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: in court, a judge will look for compelling facts show
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: and the termination was justified. He said, I don't think
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: this report answers that question satisfactorily for me as an attorney.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: So thirty two witnesses in the report, which to me
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: is a red flag. Of course, a lot of opinion,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: a lot of I feel, a lot of I think,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: And with thirty two witnesses and a contingent of hundreds
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: of police officers, one is left to sort of wonder
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: how in the hell they selected those thirty two. Some
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: are suggesting it was intentional that they picked people who
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: had a chip on their shoulder about police Chiefdiji, and
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: of course they delivered on those comments and statements, as
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: subjective as they may have been. We'll get more on
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: that with Russ Neville coming up in the show, and
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Todd Zenzer also had similar attacks. He reviewed it and
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: put his observations on there, very thoughtful analysis. Todd Zenser
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Citizen Watchdog, get his podcast wherever you get your podcasts,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: and we'll have Todd on the program again real soon.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: I'm certain stick around stack and Stupid coming your way
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: or more phone calls either way you want to go.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I got to mention fast and pro roofing because I
• 22:36
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  Speaker 2: five forty if if you have KCD talk stations, Chuck
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Ingram's out today. It's funny because you go in Chuck's
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: traffic room. He's got like eight thousand television screens and
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: does the traffic reports for a variety of different cities.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: That's why I said about Detroit. I don't know where
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Eddie is. Actually, I think Joe, Joe, you volunteered it
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: was Detroit. Is that really where he is?
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, so he is in Detroit in his screen in
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: a row filled with screens. Chuck Ingram's job today anyhow.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Five one, three, seven, four nine fifty, five hundred, eight
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  Speaker 2: hundred and eight to two three talk found five fifty
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  Speaker 2: on eighteen T phone stacked a stupid time. Saint Louis,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: not Detroit. We go to Saint Louis where two women
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: and now accues of making up a missing child who
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: does not exist, attempting to recover their stolen vehicle. I
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: know I'm confused as well. Anyway, Apparently this prompted a
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: useless amber alert courted police.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: They were contacted sometime after eight am on March thirty,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: regarding a missing five year old child who'd been left
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: in a twenty twenty jeep renegade while it was running.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Caller claimed the renegade had been stolen with the child inside.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Thorny's discovered the stolen vehicle about a mile away where
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: it was last scene, but no child was there. Thorny's
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: reportedly searched the area with canine units, drones, helicopters, and
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: then eventually issued an Amber Amber alert for this man
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: missing child who apparently wasn't. Investigators began looking into the
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: women to report of the vehicle, Ashley Collins and Cayleb Williams,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: and discovered that their initial story didn't quite add up.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Collins allegedly called nine to one one to report the
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: child missing. Authority said she did not have any images
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: of the missing child, and additionally, although Collins said that
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: the child was living with her girlfriend Williams, there was
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: no evidence that child had been there living at the
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Williams residence. Finally, Collins and Williams family members reportedly did
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: not corroborate the story. Despite collins claims that she got
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: custody the child after her sister's death. Residents offered a
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars reward. I guess to relocate ahead of
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: the potential Oh sorry, that's a different one. They always
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: interject some extra sentences in these articles. Anyway. Five hours
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: passed after the nine to one to one call. Collins
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: and Williams then allegedly confessed to police that although the
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: vehicle had really been stolen, they made the missing child
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: part up Lieutenant lo or the police department. I don't
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: know if it was a sense of panic. I don't
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: know if the individual thought it would get more response
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: to the fact that the vehicle had been stolen. Yes,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: I think that's it. Anyway, he said, from a law
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: enforcement perspective, we essentially stopped everything we're doing and dedicated
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: every available body to something like this. And in cases
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: like this and time is of the essence, so it's
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: important that we jump as quickly as we can well,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: of course, which I presume is exactly the motivation behind
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: these stupid women claiming there was a child in there.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Does anybody really believe it's like the Big Lebowski that
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: they're going to put a bunch of resources and drones
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: and all kinds of canine units on merely a stolen car. Right, No,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: they wouldn't.
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: It's doing idiot things because they're idiots.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: In terms of charges, Colin's charged with miss uson nine
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: one want to making a false report. William's charge with
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: one count of making a false report. And there you
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: have it. Let us see here we go to Seattle
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: where the police arrested a thirty seven year old guy
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: who was accused of breaking into business and stealing four
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: hundred dollars in alcohol. They were called to a shop
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: on Rainier Avenue. Got there found a damaged front door,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: broken window, and a metal pride bar on the ground.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: While searching the area, police found a man a few
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: blocks away carrying a large duffel bag, inside of which
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: the officers found bottles of alcohol. They say it's hard alcohol.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Best gives reviewed surveillance footage from the business. Yes, there's
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: always surveillance footage these days. You would be criminals. It
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: showed the guy breaking in despite telling them it wasn't him,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: that's not me. Well that's your face, there are that's
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: your faces and that was not me. Officers recover the
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: stolen bottles return them to the owner of Police recovered
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: the pride bar as evidence. The store now needs an
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: estimated two thousand dollars in repairs to the door that
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: was broken and subject booked described as a convicted felon
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: for attempted burglary and he was placed in the King
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: County jail. I charged the burglary forty five now fifty
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  Speaker 2: five ker CE talk station or weelli in society see
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: the talk station and it's five fifty I fifty about
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  Speaker 2: ker CD talk station. Happy Friday Eve, sit around all
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: morning at least be around seven oh five for Congressman
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Warren Davidson russ Neville, the brother of police Chief thegib
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: In Studio to talk about his response to this weak report.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Biased is regarding police Chief Thiji's actions as Chief Andrew King,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Judge Andrew King run from a house Supreme Court at
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: eight oh five, and of course Jay Ratliffe every Thursday
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: at eight thirty. Our iHeartMedia aviation expert back over to
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: the stack is stupid. We go to Florida and the
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Keys specifically where this story actually makes sense, given that
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: it's the Keys, been there many times, a lot of
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: strange people and the key Florida generally anyway, But it
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: just gets more Florida e as you go south, then
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: you end up in the keys where we have a
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: man and a woman that we're arrested over the weekend,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: accused of having sex in public view at a children's
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: park on Marathon Keiths, Yeah, I know, take it home. Man.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Thirty five year old Benjamin Andrew Frye forty two year
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: old Christy Lynn Ruiz, both of Marathon, now facing felony
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: council lootonlessvius exhibition, as well as misdemeanor counts of indecent
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: exposure and resisting arrest. This accorded a report from the
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Monroe County Sheriff's Office, who responded to the City of
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Marathon's Children's Rotary Park and Dog Park eight pm after
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: getting a report of a man at a woman having
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: sex in plain view of others. Witnesses happened to be
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: a family of three that included a child. Both suspects
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: taken to jail. You moron yep oh instant karma. In Bellevue, Washington,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: person taken to the Harbor View Medical Center after falling
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: from an overpass onto an Interstate ninety ramp in Bellevue.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Accord to Washington State Patrol, fall happened at ten thirty
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: pm on the ramp of eastbound nine ninety to Bellevue Way.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Why the person who fell was allegedly graffiti tagging on
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: the overpass when they fell down to the ramp below.
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: Idiots doing idiot things because they're idiots.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Tagger taken to the hospital for a possible broken
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: leg and facial injuries. No additional details provided on whether
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: the victim will be facing charges for the vandalism. Maybe
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: that was well, I don't know lesson enough learned falling off.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: That was my stapler. Parenthetically, she's trying to describe the
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: chaos that's going on here in the studio this morning.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: And finally, Joe, have you ever heard of the loofah story?
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: You know, the loof of the colored loof of means
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: something sexual like this is the Villages in Florida. It's
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: a fifty five year old and older retirement community central Florida.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Popular joke in Central Florida. Some residents of the village
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: have been seen with loofahs on their vehicles and a
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: rumor started about that one I actually had heard about this.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: This article is pointing out that it is merely a rumor.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: What really apparently people have been theorizing that the loofahs
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: are a sign of what the person's sexual preferences or
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: proclivities might mean. So if you have a blue loofah
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: or a red lufa or whatever, that means, you are like,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: you have a particular proclivity for some kind of sexual activity.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: So it's a sign for others. But yeah, maybe not.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: According to the Palm Beach Post, that rumor well accelerated
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: in recent years thanks to and Orlando area drag Queen,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: a person who goes by and I'm gonna spell it
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: at and don't think about it too hard phrasing torah
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: hymen g A hi m A n Yeah, I know
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: anyway this transgender. This drag queen posted a video on
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: TikTok back in a couple of years ago showing vehicles
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: in the village with loofahs on them. The video the
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: so called lufa code diagram. Of course, the color provided
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: in the diagram showing what that particular sexual proclivity is
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: supposed to mean. It really doesn't. I guess this is
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: whole cloth made up. Diagram presented that the claims that
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: sellers in these colors indicate specific tastes. Uh. The local
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: News reached out to two people, Linda and Jerry. And
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Linda of the Villages Newcomers Community Channel, they have one
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: of those it covers topics related to this the Villages.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: I'm understand that this place is massive anyway, Jerry said,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: let's we lived here five years. We have not heard
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: any of the rumors are negatively before we came. But
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: since we have come, we find that people have been
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: hit with these rumors of STDs, loofahs or swingers and
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: that kind of thing. A couple of several years ago,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: back three or four years ago, that same couple looked
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: into loofer rumor. They drove around the community, looked at
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: nearly two thousand vehicles and could not find a single loofah,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: that's what they claim. But they do put loofahs on
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: their car. This Jerry guy speaking with the local news,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: and the real reason folks put these loofas on their
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: vehicles is to help them remember where they parked. There's
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: so many SUVs that are gray or white or black.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: They said, there are hundreds and hundreds of them here
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: and they just put them there the spot in their
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: car in the parking lot. My grandma did that. My
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: mom's mom, Grandma Marsh used to put a little red
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: it looked like a rose on the end of her antenna,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: and you can always recognize her buick with that. That's
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: the point. Apparently the villages also has a longtime reputation
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: for risky sexual behavior. The one local news outlet said
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: the reputation is partially responsible for earning the moniker of
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: the std Capital of America. Maybe an overstatement as well.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: They say that claim could be traced back to a
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: now removed story from two thousand and six from an
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Orlando TV station titled doctors in retirement community seeing increase
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: in SDTS. Well, it turns out that article was about
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: a single physician from a local women's center. That center
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: no longer opened. The doctor was never named in the report,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: So it's amazing what happens. Going back to Abraham Lincoln's
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: famous quote, if you read it on the internet, it
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: must be true. Five fifty six fifty five krc D
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  Speaker 2: Joe Streker where he belongs. All he's gotta be taken
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Monday off on miss him. Sean McMahon's going to cover
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: for him, and uh, that's a decent thing. Can't do
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: the show without Joe. Joe LINENEP guest coming up in
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: one hour seven oh five. Congressman Warren Davidson. Is the
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: government finally reopened, It appears to be. Some are calling
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: it a capitulation on the part of the Republicans. Some
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: are saying that Democrats didn't get anything they really wanted,
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: and it looks like the whole thing was a long
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: protract the pain for the TSA agents and others who
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: weren't getting a paycheck that will ultimately end us back
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: in square one. ICE will ultimately be funded through reconciliation bill,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: even though it wasn't funded in this two prong agreement
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: that they entered into yesterday, and when they come back
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: from vacation, the representatives and senators apparently this is the
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: direction it's going to go. So once you get this through,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: then you do budget reconciliation to refund ice at whatever
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: levels they want to fund them out, and that rollin
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: requires like fifty one votes, so at least that's the
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: way it's set up as I understand it. Congressman Warren
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Davidson will shed more light on that. We'll also talk
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: about whether or not the airport lines are going to
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: be gone, and Donald Trump's speech to the nation and
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: the world yesterday. We'll get some of the details out
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: in the moment. Are we gonna send ground troops there
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: or not? Russ Neville, brother of a police chief, Thiji
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: at seven point thirty. He's got a couple of words
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: to say about that report that was released inadequate. I
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: think that's a word that sums at all up. Judge
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Andrew King, he's running for a Himo Supreme Court. He'll
• 34:59
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  Speaker 2: I'st that congratulations to the astronauts and everybody over at
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  Speaker 2: NASA for a successful launch. We'll keep our fingers crossed
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  Speaker 2: and it bears fruit and nothing happens between now and
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: when the mission is over. Pretty exciting, tense moment. As
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  Speaker 2: I watched that thing go off, it's really in the
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: back of my mind. It's kept thinking like we're one
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: second away from some catastrophe. Also did have the idea
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: that terrorism might be involved. Fortunately none of that came
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  Speaker 2: to fruition. We've got a successful launch. God bless America.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks everybody came to listener lunch yesterday. Liberty Collective folks
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  Speaker 2: everybody as I always do, and just it's a real
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• 36:05
  Speaker 2: everybody shows up in a listener to lunch. We'll do
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: it again first Wednesday and next month. Back over to
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: the last night's speech from Trump. You can fast forward
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: a little bit he congratulated the team at NASA. Of course,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: right out of the gate, he thanked the troops for
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: the work that they have been doing in the Operation
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Epic Fury, which is a good thing to do. And
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: then he spoke to the entire world in the nation,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: it's sort of the providing the justifications for this. It
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: is I would argue a war. Iran is a sovereign nation.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: It's got a flag. Unlike the proxy wars, when they hire,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: you know, terrorists to do the dirty work for them,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: that's kind of a different thing. This is the problem
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: we face with the authorization. He used the military force
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: to go after the terrorists in the Middle East, which
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: provided the vehicle for the Afghanistan invasion and all of that.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Going after a terrorist is different than going after nation states.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: I think it's a profound legal difference. But moving away
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: from that into the Trump's comments, so he outlined all
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: the reasons why Iran deserved to be bombed, why Operation
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Epic Fury is necessary for the safety of America and
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: the security of the free world. He said, from the
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: very first day I announced my campaign for president, back
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  Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen, I vowed that I would never allow
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Ron to have a nuclear weapon. The fanatical regime has
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: been chanting death to America, death to Israel for forty
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: seven years. That's the truth. Proxies. Yes, the proxies were
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: behind the murder of two hundred and forty one Americans,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: and the Marine barracks bombing in Beirut, slaughter of hundreds
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: of our service members of roadside bombs, the attack on
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: the USS Coal carried out countless other heinous acts, including
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: the blood just horrible, bloody atrocities of October seventh in Israel. Again,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: proxies did it. Murder's regime killed forty five thousand of
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: their own people, although some observers are noted that's a
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: figure that's much higher than anybody else had heard. Whatever
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: he's exaggerating, they killed a lot of their own protesters
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: in their own country, their own citizens. Except to these terrorists,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: to have nuclear weapons could be an intolerable threat, most
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: violent and thuggish regime on Earth would be free to
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: carry out their campaigns, a terror, coercion, conquest, a mass
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: murder from behind the nuclear shield. That's a valid point
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: to make, And I keep going back to the factor.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Ron wants a nuclear shield, so it isn't bombed and
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: threatened anymore. It works for North Korea, it works for
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: all the other nuclear powers. Nobody's going after Russian bombing them.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Chinese Communist Party is a much bigger threat to us
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: in the world than any other country on the planet
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  Speaker 2: that they have bombs, So we don't go after them.
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  Speaker 2: Rapidly building up new islands in disputed territories in the South,
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  Speaker 2: in the South China Sea. Whose land is that? Who's well?
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Some say the Philippines. Chinese say no, they have aspirations
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: for Taiwan. Taiwanese have something to say about that. Anyway,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: We're not going after them. They have arms anyway, fast forward,
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  Speaker 2: he said. My first preference was always the path of diplomacy.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Yet the regime continued the relentless quest for nuclear weapons,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: rejected every attempt in an agreement. For this reason. In June,
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: I heard to the strike of Iran's key nuclear facilities
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: in Operation Midnight Hammer. So they're also rapidly building a
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: ASSTOC pile of conventional ballistic missiles, which are on full
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: display now, aren't they, And we'll soon have had missiles
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: that could reach American homeland, Europe and virtually all of
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: other places on Earth. Well, they might have ones that
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: reach Europe already, since we found out during this conflict
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: that wow, those rockets go twenty five hundred miles. That's
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: beyond anything we even knew. They had set proofs Trump
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: right on that line, he stayed announcement of Operation Epic
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Fury objectives are very simple and clear. We are systematically
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: systematically dismantling the regime's ability to threaten America or project
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: power outside of their borders. So he points out what
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: that means is, well, they eliminated the Navy, the Air Force,
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: much of the missile program, annihilated the defense industrial base
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: with all this relentless campaign of bombings, and we have
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: accomplished a lot. And that's his point at highlighting this.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: The actions, he says, cripple Iran's military, crush their ability
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  Speaker 2: to support terrorist proxies, and deny them the ability to
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  Speaker 2: build a nuclear bomb. So we are at that point.
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  Speaker 2: But where are we relative to what Iran is go
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  Speaker 2: going to be after we leave, if we leave regime
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: change Now, we'll get to that in a moment. He
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: thanks the allies in the Middle East, Israel, Saudi Arabia,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Cutter and United Arab Emirates, Kuwait and Bahrain. He said
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: they're great. He said they're not going He's not gonna
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: let them get hurt in any way. Of course, he's
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: trying to shore up Middle Eastern support to get rid
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: of Iran, which a lot of them are now saying
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: they want to do. Said. The short term increase entirely
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: the result of this, the rise in gasoline prices, is
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: what he's referring to. He said that it's short term,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: and he blamed the Iranians completely because they started launching
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: what he called deranged terror attacks against commercial oil tankers
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: and neighboring countries that have nothing to do with the conflict.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Why are you bombing the United Arab Emirates. They don't
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: have anything to do with this. This is the United States action,
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: it's Israel's action. Why are they bombing them? Hoping to
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: shore up support for the Arab nations. He says, we
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: as a country have never been prepared more economically to
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: confront this threat, planning and pointing out on the gas line,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: we have plenty of gas. And I think this is
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: a very loud and very clear message to our European
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  Speaker 2: allies and countries like Australia who've gone full green to
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: their detriment, putting them in a very precarious position given
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: the operations unfolding the cut shutting down the Strait of
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Horror Moves. Says, hey, America's got plenty of grass gas.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: We're the number one producer of oil and gas on
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: the planet. He said. We produce more oil and gas
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: than Saudi Arabia and Russia combined, which is pretty wild,
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: isn't it. Said the United States imports nothing through the
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  Speaker 2: Strait of Horror moves, and we won't be taking any
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  Speaker 2: in the future because, as he said, we don't need it.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: We haven't needed it, we don't need it. He points out,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Ron's been decimated both military and economically and in every
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: other way, and ergo. Countries of the world that do
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: get their oil through straight off or moves must take
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: care of that passage. He said, they could do it easily.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: We Americans will be helpful, but they those other countries
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: European Union should take the lead in protecting the oil
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: that they so desperately depend on. I think he pulled
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: a few punches on that one. So those countries that
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: can't get fuel, many of which refuse to get involved
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: in the decapitation of Iran. We had to do it ourselves.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: I have a suggestion. Number one, bi oil from the
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: United States of America. We have plenty and to build
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: up some delayed courage. Should have done it before, should
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: have done it with us, as we asked. Go to
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: the Strait and just take it, protect it, use it
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: for yourselves. We've already decimated around. The hard part's done,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: so this should be easy, he said. Then he pointed
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: out when the conflict is over, he claimed, the Strait's
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: going to open up naturally, gas prices will naturally come
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: quickly down, and we'll all be happily happy ever after.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: But he said, we are on track to complete all
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: of America's military objectives very shortly. We're going to hit
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: them extremely hard over the next couple of weeks, two
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: to three weeks, specifically bombing them back into the Stone Age.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: In the meantime, he claimed, discussions are ongoing, and here's
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: an interesting statement from the president. Regime change was not
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: our goal. We never said regime change. But regime change
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: has occurred because all the original leaders are now dead.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Claims this new group is less radical and much more reasonable. However,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: the Iranians do have something to say encounter to that
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: his perception his statement last night. But he did say,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: and here's the trouble and component for me, if there
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: is no deal, we are going to hit each and
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: every one of their electric generating plants very hard and
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: probably simultaneously. And he did say, listen, we haven't hit
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: their oil. That's the easiest target because it would not
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: give them even a small chance of survival or rebuilding. Well,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: there was a component of that with the civilian Iranian population.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: If you go knock out all of their electricity, I
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: think you're going to have a pretty outraged Iranian population
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: of that. And I'm not the only one that's concluded that.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of concern over that. But maybe
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: that will be enough leverage, the threat of doing that
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: to get them to the table. We will all wait
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: patiently for that. One said, keep the whole thing in
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: conflict and perspective. Everyone pointed out that all these other
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: wars that have drug on for years. You said, we're
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: in this military operation. We've only been doing it for
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: thirty two days, and the country has already been eviscerated
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: and is no longer a threat, so basically claiming victory
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: along a bunch of different lines, but leading us to
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: question and leaving the Iranian regime to question mark where
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: they're going to go from this point forward. Anyway, largely
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: viewed as a reasonable speech. Six seventeen Right now fifty
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  Speaker 2: five kros the talk station? Are are you struggling with
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  Speaker 2: the talk station? It is six twenty two fifty You
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  Speaker 2: Five one, three, seven, four nine fifty five hundred, eight
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  Speaker 2: eight and T phone. Since we've been focusing a lot
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: on the antics of downtown Cincinnati and the decisions made
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: by the mayor and council, prioritization is critical. Now they're
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: getting ready to cut a bunch of money from the
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: police department. We got this ridiculous report about Police Chief
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Dji coming up trying to come up with the reason
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: why they fired her put her on administrative leave. Anyway,
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Fortunately we are going to get these comments from Russ Neville,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: her brother, also a member of law enforcement. He'll be
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: in studio at seven thirty to talk about that, But
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: I want to pivot over considering prioritization, what's important to
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: the residents of the City of Cincinnati. And oh look,
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: low end, behold newschunks dot com. That was where the
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  Speaker 2: article came from, posted on Facebook by one of the
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Cincinnati Uh. Well, since I love Cincinnati posts, Joe Streker
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: knows all about that one. Anyway, what's priority for the
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: City of Cincinnati. Par Last Wednesday, the City of Sincenay,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: described as a significant stride toward inclusivity, approved twelve members
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: who are now going to be serving on the brand new,
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: newly established Are You Ready lgbtqia Plus Commission. According to
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: the Reporter report by Daniel Mercer in this website, initiative
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: aims who provide city officials with informed advice on policies
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: impacting the lgbtqia plus community within the city. Commissions set
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: to focus on addressing legal challenges faced by transgender individuals
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: and development of spaces that are welcoming to all members
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: of the LGBTQIA plus community. Huh. And the article points
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: out who's been appointed to the commission, It doesn't really
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: say a whole lot about what this thing is supposed
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: to do, which is a legitimate question to do what
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: some suggest Wait a minute, all of this relates to
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: sexual proclivities, going back to my Lufa story from the
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: villages in Florida. Mean, okay, do we need to have
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: any care connection concerned about what you're doing behind closed
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: the doors and an article in the status too, But
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: if you have sex outside, you're gonna get arrested for
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Loutlessivia's conduct and maybe for exposing yourself to young people. No,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: you don't do that. They had to go through what
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: this means. We all know what L is lesbian, g's gay,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: be as bisexual. See, that's where you start getting into
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: specific sexual proclivities. Well, certainly is with gay and lesbian
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: people who are transgender, those who are gender identified differs
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: from their sex assigned at birth. That one has nothing
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: to do with sexuality, because I suppose if you're a
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: guy who believes himself to be a woman as your
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: embodiment psychological embodiment of a woman, you could still be
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: attracted to women. So you have guy parts, you're attracted women.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: That just means to me you're ST's eat. But whatever,
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: queer questioning this is one that's always puzzled me. Described
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: as an umbrella term for non normative identities, questioning refers
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: to those exploring their sexual orientation or gender identity. Questioning,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know what I like to have sex with? Again,
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: a question that should have nothing to do with the
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: functioning of city government. What is I intersex? People born
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: with sex characteristics that do not fit typical male or
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: female definitions. Oh wait a second, there's a typical male
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: or female definition? Is that maybe where science centers into it,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: with chromosomal biological reality factoring in. I still don't know
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: what that means. A is asexual or a romantic individual
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: experiencing little nose sexual or romantic attraction. So the complete
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: absence of sex, You're still talking about sexuality and what
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: that means. And I'm thinking about this all obviously within
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: the context of talking about this with young people, or
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: even the idea that government function is going to be
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: allocated to this committee, whether or not any dollars flow
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: to it, so we can what protect the sexuality of
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: people we shouldn't even know quite candidly do it behind doors.
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  Speaker 2: And then there's this plus sign, which you know may
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: include heterosexual white guys like me, I don't know signifies
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: other identities, which at least in some definitions includes ten sexual,
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: gender fluid, non binary, But it's a nonspecific plus other identities.
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  Speaker 2: So go ahead, my heterosexual friends, feel free to put
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: yourself into the group. Maybe join the organization. We need
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: more heterosexual people within the plus category, maybe to provide
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: a sense of logic and reason to these people that
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: think we need to know and discuss and have protections
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: for what they're supposed to be doing exclusively behind closed
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  Speaker 2: doors six twenty seven. Right now, if you I have
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  Speaker 2: seven four nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred eight two
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  Speaker 2: three talk found five fifty On eighteen Chief found the
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  Speaker 2: police Chief DD's brother Russ Neville, part of the very
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  Speaker 2: story law enforcement family here in the city of sin Sain.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: He's going to join the program in one hour to
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: get his reaction to the well the one sided report
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: is how he characterized it, mythical narrative. Russ said, extremely
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: upset names associated with a report showing nothing but negative
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: When he talked to people who apparently said positive things
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: to the investigators for this report. How come that stuff
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: isn't in there? How come that was left out? We'll
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: get the details from Russ coming up in an hour
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  Speaker 2: three four fifty fire two three. Talk back over to
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: local stories. We've got an over in the Rhine. Man
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: now accused of stabbing someone in the neck happen on
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: Vine Street Tuesday. Police city was followed by the victim
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: and defending himself. Kevin Phillips, forty eight years old, charged
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: with felonious assault in the March thirty first stabbing at
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Imagination Alley four in the afternoon near the Imagine Peace
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: and Unity Archway. That's interesting is that irony Phillips told
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: police the victim and approached him first corner to the
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: rest documents. He said, the victim told him quote, let's
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: settle this now close quote before squaring up and starting
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: to fight him. Phillips told police he then poked the
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: victim in the neck with a knife and the fight
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: was over. Man taking a local hospital with serious injuries.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Since they police said, the condition of the man not
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: immediately available as of yesterday morning. Phillips attorney Steve Wenke
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: said during his client's arraignment Hamilton County Municipal Court that
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: it was quote true self defense situation. Whenkiy said Phillips
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: called the police after the stabbing to report it, he
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: said the Phillips also tried in recent months to get
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: a temporary protective order against the victim because he was
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: in afraid of him. Whenky said, He's done numerous things
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: to avoid this situation. He was in fear for himself
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: and of the end of the defendant. Prosecutors agree there
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: is a self defense claim in the case, but asked
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: for a high bond because Phillips used a weapon in
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: the incident and as a prior record, Hey, Joe priors
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: used the weapon. I thought that was typically resulting in
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: an automatic own recognizance bond no cash ball. Anyhow, victim
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: told police that Phillips has stabbed him before. Over Musicipal
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Court Judge Jackie Giocchio said Phillips bond at one hundred
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars and he of course remains in custody at
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: the Hamilton County Justice Center, Liberty Township, where we were
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: yesterday for listener lunch. Sadly, two people are dead after
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: an apparent murdered suicide happened at Liberty Township. According to
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: the Butler County Sheriff's Office, almost three pm Wednesday, Oaks
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  Speaker 2: Lane forty four hundred block deputy showed up for a
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: welfare check. They were called to the residence after the
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  Speaker 2: resident's son in law called authority saying he had not
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: heard from them in the last couple of days. Deputies
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: entered through the garage where they found a deceased seventy
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: two year old woman on the couch with a gunshot
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: wound and a deceased seventy year old man lying on
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: the floor. Thoriti's also said they found a deceased dog
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: in the living room, claiming the incident appeared to be
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: a murder's suicide. However, the investigation is ongoing. That's tragic.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Six thirty five right now fifty five KERR CED talk station.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Stick around. Feel free to give me a call. Light
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: on phone calls this morning. You do have a lot
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: to talk about, beginning with Congressman Warren Davidson in the
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: seven o'clock hour. Wall to wall guests for the balance
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: of the show. So we've got some time between now
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: and then, got all the stories to talk about for that,
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: but let's talk about Chimney Care, fireplace and stove since
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  Speaker 2: nineteen talk station at sixo forty coming up a six
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: forty one and fifty five KERCD talk station, trying to
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: have a happy Friday Eve. Congressman Davidson, russ Neville cleave
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: the chiefs FIG's brother. He'll be in citdio's thirty after
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: the Congressman Davidson. And then we have Judge Andrew King
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: who's running for Supreme Court at eight five and Jay Ratler,
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: my buddy Jay at eight thirty with the aviation report.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Supreme Court didn't seem real, you know, thrilled about Donald
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: Trump's executive order on birthright citizenship that was in oral
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: argument yesterday a couple hour hearing. Justices suggest that it
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: would be difficult to enforce and could strip current citizens
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: of the United States. Obviously having to deal with the
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: breadth of this executive order. Of course, this all relates
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: around the Fourteenth Amendment citizenship clause. All persons born or
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: thereof are citizens of the United States and of the
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: state wherein they reside. You know, many people just point
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: to that alone, because it's you know, subject to the
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: jurisdiction thereof seems to be the only wiggle room, Like,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: what does that mean, Well, here's an interesting thought. I
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: don't know that it necessarily came up during oral arguments yesterday,
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: again most of the justices expressing skepticism given the history
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: of allowing people who are born here to be automatically
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: to deem citizens under the fourteenth Amendment. But that's section one.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: There's apportionment thing in section two, there's a section three
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  Speaker 2: and a four. Public debt is even addressed in section
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: four of Article fourteen. But then you get to section five.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: It's one sentence, the Congress shall have the power to enforce,
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article. And that's
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: where some of the comments of Alan Dershowitz come in.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: He's like, wait a second, you guys are missing the point.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: They said, there's not a case where the Supreme Court
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: gets the last word. The Fourteenth Amendment ends with the
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: following statement, the one I just read you. Congress shall
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: have the power to enforce, by appropriate legislations, the provision
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: of this article, he said, And so Congress has the
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: power to decide who is subject to the jurisdiction of
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: the United States. Now that's it's an interesting look at it,
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: he said, of congres would have passed a law saying
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: the people who come for birth tourism or who just
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: passed through the United States are not subject to the
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: jurisdiction of the country. Then the fourteenth Amendment doesn't grant
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: them citizenship, he said. Now on either side wants that result.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: Both sides want an extreme result so that neither side
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: argued sensibility for a solemn, manic solution which would divide
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: the baby, literally the tourist baby in half. He said,
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: if they live in the United States, if they spend
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: time here, if they were really subject to the laws
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: of the United States, and yes they're citizens. But if
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: they just pass through, he observes, then Congress can say no,
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: they're not. So the Supreme Court may not get the
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: last word, said, I suspect we may see a decision
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: that says, look, the President does not have the authority,
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: so his executive order is not constitutional, but Congress does.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: And then the ball is thrown back into the court
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: of Congress to see whether they can pass the legislation
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: deciding who is subject to the jurisdiction of the United States,
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: and who isn't. That is an interesting thing that I
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: had never heard before. And that's my failure, I guess,
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: because I never bothered go through all five provisions of
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: the fourteenth Amendment, because after you get through number one,
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: it seems to move away from that whole concept. But
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  Speaker 2: they're in number five of the US Constitution for Article fourteenth,
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  Speaker 2: Section five. So maybe the fat lady will not have sung.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: I do agree with Derschwitz, and I agree with all
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: the other observers who heard the arguments yesterday saying it
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: doesn't look good for Donald Trump's executive order. There's some
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: case law on that, but there has been no effort,
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  Speaker 2: as I understand it, by Congress to ever define that,
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: no legislation relating to the Fourteenth Amendment's definition of subject
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  Speaker 2: to the jurisdiction. So for those out there, the one
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: to end birthright citizenship, I suppose there's a little glimmer
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: of hope for you out there. It's going to be
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: months before the decision is handed down, so we'll have
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: some time to think about this, and maybe the Supreme
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: Court will in fact incorporate that argument into their ultimate opinion.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: I kind of hope they do. Six forty five fifty
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  Speaker 2: At six fifty fifty five Carro City Talks Station, Friday
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  Speaker 2: Eve Irson, Warren Davidson at the top of the hour,
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: news and meantimes over the phones phones phone number if
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: you want to call, like Bobby, We're gonna get the
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: Bobby here five one, three, seven four nine fifty hundred
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  Speaker 2: eight two three talk Bobby, Welcome back to the morning show,
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: and happy Friday even to you, sir.
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  Speaker 4: Well, happy Friday Eve, my brother, faith, flag, family, and
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: whatever you do. Don't shoot the bummy this weekend. It's
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: handy camp Thursday.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: Handicap Thursday. Over and under. Last week was a four
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  Speaker 2: point five, wasn't it?
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: Yes, sir, it went way over.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: It went way over. And Bobby, of course, if you
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: just tuning in, Bobby calls and gives us the over
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: and under prediction almost every Thursday on how many people
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: are going is it? Is it shot or murdered in
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: city since that either one.
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: Stabbed, Stabo beat down to all the physical.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: Physical violence, yeah, okay, physical viole. So you're at you're
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: at where this week?
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: Well, we want to be kind of conservative, since it's
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: the holiday weekend, it's supposed to be nice and pretty,
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: but we're putting it at five.
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  Speaker 2: All right, five. I guess some people might be wondering
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: what's the payoff on this?
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: Well, it depends on how much you want to wager. Now, see,
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: we do have one little opportunity for people. It's one
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  Speaker 4: thousand dollars cash every Saturday. If you just go ahead
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: and walk the street to Cincinnati Monday through Friday for
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  Speaker 4: four hours a day, and we'll give you one thousand
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  Speaker 4: dollars at the end of the week.
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  Speaker 2: Is this a SOURUS, A SOURUS funded operation, Bobby?
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: No, this is a Maintain Almighty God's America funding operation.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: Are you being serious, Bobby, because you're sounding very serious.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: So are you actually saying there's an opportunity or someone
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  Speaker 2: to make a thousand dollars doing exactly what you just said?
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: And if so, where might people take advantage of that? Bobby?
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: You make two hundred dollars a day. All you have
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  Speaker 4: to do is walk the streets of Cincinnati for four
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  Speaker 4: hours a day. I'll give you the route, I'll give
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: you the times. If you make it to the end
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  Speaker 4: of the week, it's give a thousand cash because you're
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: getting two hundred dollars a day to walk the street
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  Speaker 4: for four hours a day.
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  Speaker 2: And you're saying, make it to the end of the
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: week without being assaulted, attacked, otherwise physically impaired or physically bothered. Yes,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: so it's coming out of your pocket, Bob. I'm being
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be serious about this, because sometimes you
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: know you're serious.
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  Speaker 4: We got we got people that that but that love it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you know we have we. Okay, who's the we
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  Speaker 2: that one of my listeners is going, Hey, give me
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: an opportunity. I'll do that.
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  Speaker 8: Where do they go, Bobby, We're like blades of grass,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 8: my friends, anybody that wants to get involved.
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  Speaker 4: Now, it's not if we pick the time.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not denying by Bobby. I'm taking you on at
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: your at your word. How what is the mechanism? Don't
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: tell me that it's out there and we're leaves in
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: the wind or blades of grass in the field. That
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: doesn't tell anybody how to take advantage of this potential
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: to get a thousand bucks.
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  Speaker 4: I hate for them to have to call me though.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you're gonna have to come up with a mechanism
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: because you're just saying it doesn't really provide any bar
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: any fruit if no one knows where to go to
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: take advantage of what you're offering. So you work on
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: iron out the details. Get a website, get a neutral
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: phone number that people can call, get some give them
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: some way to get in touch with you, Bobby. Otherwise,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: you know, just because you say it doesn't necessarily make
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: it true. Like the Abraham Lincoln quote about what you
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: read on the internet.
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  Speaker 4: I'll show you some pictures.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want pictures. You hear you, hear what I'm saying, Bobby,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not being confusing. I want to I want to
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: walk the streets of Cincinnati next week. I want to
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  Speaker 2: take advantage and get a thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 4: That sounds good, but I have I'll give you the day,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: the routes, and the times.
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  Speaker 2: Bobby, don't don't deny you're missing the point here, because
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: I at least have your phone number. You'll pick up
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: my call because you have before. But you see, of course,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Fred or maybe Mississippi James who showed up at at
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: listener lunch yesterday. Maybe he's out there going I'll take
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: one thousand dollars. Maybe Tom and he gets on Vaca
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: back from vacation or Jay.
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  Speaker 4: Or you know.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, got a lot of listeners that might need the
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: extra cash. You're gonna have to figure a way out
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: of getting them in touch with you. So we'll see
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: if you really literally make good on that and put
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: people to the test on whether they're willing to put
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: their life on the line merely walking the streets of Cincinnati.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: Once you all have you details in place by Monday morning.
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  Speaker 2: You heard it right here on the fifty five Casey
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: Morning Show, Bobby, and again the over and under is five.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: You work with Bobby in terms of what you might
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: or might not collect if you get it right. Sadly,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: Bobby has been pretty damn accurate with his over and unders,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: and that's a reflection of the problems we're facing in
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: downtown Cincinnati, which is a wonderful thing to remind me
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: to tell you. Russ Neville Police Chief Fiji's brothers coming
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: up at seven thirty will get his reaction to this assessment.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: The Chiefdiji report, which came out the other day uniformly
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: panned in the News six fifty five. Right now, stick
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: around for Congressman Warren Davidson and Russ Neville coming up
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: for the next hour.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: From over there. This war has been one.
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  Speaker 2: To right here, it's seven five, you know. Happy Thursday
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: to everyone, and a happy welcome back to the fifty
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: five Faressey Morning Show. Congressman Warren David's becoming a regular
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: fixture on this program, and God bless him for spending
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: time with my listeners and me. Welcome back, Congressman Davidson.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: Thanks for the opportunity to speak with you this morning.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 9: Oh thank you, Brian.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: Great to talk with you.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: So who capitulated. I understand that Mike Johnson and Senima
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: Jorian leader Johnson have reached an agreement. They will be
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: moving forward with a Donald Trump approved I guess two
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: track approach, which sounds to me like the Democrats aren't
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: going to get anything that they were fighting and closing
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: the government over funding of ice. There's not going to
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: be funding for ice as I understand it, or parts
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: of custom and Border patrol. Everything else gets reopened. And
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: then the second tier of this two prong approach is
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: for the Republicans, through reconciliation, bringing back the funding for ICE.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: So if it all goes according to plan, reconciliation coally
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: requires fifty one votes in the Senate. So if all
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: goes according to plan, the Democrats don't get anything at
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: all by way of ICE reforms, and ICE will ultimately
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: be fully funded under reconciliation. Have I got that right, Congressman, Yeah,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: that's the plan.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 9: They haven't communicated exactly what the sequence is because you know,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 9: I think the Senate personally, I think the Senate made
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 9: a huge mistake by funding DHS with no funding not
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 9: just for ICE, but for customs and border patrol, yeah,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 9: or onland security investigations, which you know, investigates all the
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 9: things related to secure borders and people that are here
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 9: lawfully or unlawfully in everything else. So, I mean, that's
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 9: a crazy proposition. So you know, I don't think that
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 9: they're going to do that again and then say, oh,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 9: we'll fix it later. I think they're just going to
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 9: be like, well, it's unfunded for now. So you know,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 9: I had a text message exchange with the Speaker last night.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 9: We've got a conference call later this morning and we'll
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 9: get a little more clarity there. But you know, I've
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 9: supported reconciliation as the pass since the last shutdown. They're like, oh,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 9: you guys aren't negotiating. I'm like, no, we are, in
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 9: fact negotiating. But let me show you what not negotiating is, Like,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 9: this is reconciliation where we don't even need your votes.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 9: So I'm glad they're finally calling this play call. You know,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 9: better late than never. And in the meantime, the one
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 9: thing I've really wanted them to do is pass the
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 9: Shutdown Fairness Act, which is, if you're so essential, you've
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 9: got to be at work. The payroll clerk should be
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 9: essential to you know, there are some people that aren't
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 9: working and are laid off effectively, you know, vendors that
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 9: aren't getting paid on time, projects that aren't launching, all
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 9: these things. They're consequential when there's a shutdown. But like
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 9: in the private sector, if you had your workers work
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 9: and didn't pay them, it's called payroll theft. Yes, it's
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 9: a crime, and people go to jail for it and
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 9: they should.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Well, I it's a logical, reasonable, seemingly bipartisan solution to
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: this problem. So we ensure that people get paid. How
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: about the Shutdown Fairness Act? Is there any opposition to
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: it conceptually, Congressman Davidson, because that seems me to be
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: a no brainer much in the same way, and I
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: think you'll get bipartisan support for at least people when
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: they talk to the media, Republicans and Democrats seemingly willing
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: to hold up their own paychecks when the government shuts
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: down because it's simply a matter of fairness. Since they're
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: the ones that prevent the paychecks from going out, they
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: should suffer as much as people not getting a paycheck.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, that's that's we haven't We don't know
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 9: for sure where the opposition is because the leadership of
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 9: the House and Senate haven't put it on the floor.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 9: My understanding is in negotiations, Democrats don't like it because
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 9: it gives, you know, Republicans leverage, and it gives the
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 9: president discretion to decide who's essential and not essential. And
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 9: they also don't like that there's a variation that everyone
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 9: would still get paid because that takes away their leverage,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 9: and that just tells you they're using the workers as
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 9: leveraging their negotiations. And meanwhile, the people that are using
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 9: the leverage are still getting paid themselves. So it's a
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 9: really sick system.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: I think it.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 9: Should be illegal at least, you know there could be shutdowns.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 9: I'm like, okay, that stuff could happen. And you're negotiating
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 9: over something and you say, I don't know, I don't
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 9: think we need to keep funding the IRS, for example,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 9: so everyone's furloughed. But as you're negotiating over that, fine,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 9: But if somebody is essential and we know, look, you're
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 9: not going to send the federal prison guards home. They're
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 9: going to need to keep guarding the federal prison. You
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 9: should have to pay those people who are working now,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 9: not someday. And they do all get paid someday, which
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 9: makes this other thing stupid because you have people that
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 9: are not even coming in and they too get paid eventually.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, well, this cold concept discretion. I'm thinking along the
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: lines of the nuclear option as well. Democrats may be
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: against this discretion and keeping people funded because Donald Trump
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: or the Trump administration would have control over that, but hey,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: don't they anticipate taking over control of Congress down the road.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't it then be their discretion to decide what does
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: and what doesn't get paid. I mean, it's like nuclear option.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: Democrat Republicans seem reluctant to do away with the sixty
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: vote threshold in the Senate because, oh my god, there
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: will be another Democrat administration. We'll just railroad through all
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: their woke, crazy policies. So do we really want to
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: go down that road? Now? They may very well do
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: that anyway if they take back over Congress. But isn't
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: that the point if both sides ultimately get the discretion
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  Speaker 2: that they're looking for, if this either hurts both sides
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  Speaker 2: or better, if it's both sides, just a question of
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  Speaker 2: time when the parties flip.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's just neither side wants to be the one
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  Speaker 9: to do it, except that, you know, Democrats, you know,
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  Speaker 9: this is a you know, analgae you to the Americans,
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  Speaker 9: We're the ones hiding behind rocks and trees in the revolution,
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  Speaker 9: and the British were the ones wearing bright red uniforms,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 9: marching out in the open fields and down the roads.
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  Speaker 9: And you know, why are the Republicans fighting like the British?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we should be.
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  Speaker 9: Willing to do what it takes to win here too,
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  Speaker 9: And it seems like the consistent thing is Democrats are
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 9: willing to use every tool possible to advance their agenda
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 9: and Republicans are like, well, it's not very supporting to
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 9: do it that way, you know, which is you know, no,
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  Speaker 9: we said we would do this. We should find a
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 9: way to win and do the things we said we
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 9: would do. So I've encouraged that President Trump is putting
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 9: pressure on the House and Senate to say, look, you
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 9: guys need to get together, do reconciliation and get me
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 9: a build, funds everything. And you say better late than ever.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 9: I wish we had called this playback in you know,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 9: September October, when we had this whole blow up overfunding
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 9: homeland security.
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  Speaker 2: Well and nothing in this proposed resolution, this two prong
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  Speaker 2: approach resolution that will put the Save Act in what
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  Speaker 2: happened to the Save America Act. Congressman Davidson, we.
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  Speaker 9: Have a weak Senate. I mean, that's what happened to
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  Speaker 9: the Save America Act. They don't want to vote on it.
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  Speaker 9: There are some Republican senators that don't support it, allegedly,
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  Speaker 9: but they're hiding. They don't come out. They don't have
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 9: to vote, and they haven't even had to vote on
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 9: a proxy for it, on real cloture for sixty votes
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 9: and Culture isn't really a vote on the underlying issue.
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  Speaker 9: You could vote, oh yeah, we should have a vote
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  Speaker 9: on the floor knowing that Democrats are going to kill it,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 9: and you don't have to go on record for the
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 9: actual position. So I think that you know, there's a
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  Speaker 9: hand full of Senators who've said, oh, we can do
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  Speaker 9: that in reconciliation too, but that's not true. Recopilation spends money.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 9: You can either raise or lower taxes. You can increase
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  Speaker 9: or decrease spending, you know, in aggregate or in little
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 9: granular ways about increased funding for ice, for example. But
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 9: you can't do policy. There's something called the bird rule
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 9: and it always gets taken out when you try to
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 9: make policy. So they know that, and so I think
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 9: they're gas letting people when they say, oh, we can
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  Speaker 9: fix this and say in reconciliation.
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  Speaker 2: So is this to suggest that CENTI majority leader Thuon
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  Speaker 2: is protecting these wavering Republicans by not bringing it to
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  Speaker 2: the floor for a vote, because at minimum, we should
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: want to know where the Senators are on this vitally
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: important issue. I mean, put it up for a vote.
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  Speaker 2: If the Republicans that want to vote against it, let
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: them be on record. And doing it. But Thuon is
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: protecting them for that, isn't he in a very important
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: election year.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that's exactly it. And he's protecting them
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  Speaker 9: on a lot of votes. And yeah, here's the other thing. Look,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 9: I mean, scorecards are hard to say. You know, anyone
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 9: vote you know, it doesn't you don't You could record, Hey,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 9: our position as an organization is everyone should have voted
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 9: yes on this bill. But you don't get like an
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 9: essays where you say why you voted no or yes whatever.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 9: It's just yes or no on the on the bill.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 9: So any one particular score, you know, might be hard
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 9: to measure something, but when you've got dozens and dozens
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 9: of votes over time, it's at least directionally right as
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 9: to whether somebody is more or less conservative, you know,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 9: aligned with the Republican agenda. Most conservatives will score, you know,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 9: in the nineties on a lot of these scorecards. But
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 9: there's like fifteen Republican senators that are scoring f's on
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 9: these scorecards. And you know, to be fair, there's a
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 9: range between like Susan Collins who's getting at twenty percent
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 9: and you know, like Leader Thune who's getting about a
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 9: fifty percent, So you know there's a range where they're not.
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  Speaker 9: You know, Reagana, You know, I want somebody to be
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 9: with me eighty percent of the time. We've got a
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 9: pretty significant chunk of the Senate that's with us barely
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 9: fifty percent of the time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, of course scorecards are important to pay attention to.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, Congressman Davidson, you like me and my
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: listening audience, we tend to be weed dwellers and do
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: pay attention to that. But when it comes time to November elections,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: I wonder how many people to go into the ballot
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: box are even aware that there is a thing called
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: a scorecard on any given issue. Let's continue with congress
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: Warren Davidson. We've talked about whether the long lines at
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: the airports are gone now or and of course Donald
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: Trump speaks to the nation about the Awar with Iran stationed.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: A very happy Friday Eve to you, Congressman Warren Davidson
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: on the phone. We're talking about the government shutdown. Maybe
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: we have a path to end the shutdown. Obviously, the
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: shutdowns brought about a heapload of pain on folks, most
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: notably those traveling going through airports. And having to stay
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: in TSA lines at last hours and hours and hours.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: Why TSA is not getting paid? A lot of them
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: have already quit, many of them not showing up because
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: he's got to pursue employment elsewhere. Clearly this has been
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: a problem. It's been widely Congressman Davidson. But the abuse
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: that's been heaped down upon the traveling American public, not
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: to mention the TSA agents working without pay, but people
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: are really feeling it. They have missed flights, they've missed vacations,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: they have stood in line and fumed over it. So
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: this is what our elected officials are willing to meet
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: down on the voting public. Question is who's going to
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: get blamed for it? Isn't this all about ICE agents
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: and the death of two Americans? They want to change
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: the protocols that ICE agents use when going around and
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: picking up and deporting illegal immigrants. So ultimately it's a
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: prioritization of illegal immigrants over the American people, isn't it?
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: Or is am I missing something? Is this the Republican's fault,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: Congressman Davidson.
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  Speaker 9: I mean it's pretty basic. Who's withholding their votes Democrats?
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 9: And why are they withholding the votes because they want
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 9: to weaken ICE and they don't want ICE to actually
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 9: be doing what they're doing. When you think about the
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 9: ICE guys, they've been like the most flexible employees ever
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 9: for the past few years. I mean back when Joe
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 9: Biden was president, they would get deployed down to the border,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 9: working intents along the border, processing illegals through that they
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 9: know shouldn't be coming through by the laws of our country.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 9: But that was the policy for Biden and his borders
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 9: are Kamala Harris. And so now we've got a new
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 9: president who campaigned on following the law and enforcing the
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 9: border and deporting the people, which is the law who
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 9: came in unlawfully or overstayed their visas, whatever. So all
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 9: the ways to define the lawful presence of foreign nationals,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 9: that's clearly a federal standard. And you have sanctuary cities
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 9: and states that want to deny that. Minneapolis is one
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 9: of the most egregious in doing it. It's open rebellion
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 9: to the authority of the United States, and that can't
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 9: be allowed to stand. That's really what this is about.
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  Speaker 9: And you know they're willing to cause massive consequences to
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 9: American citizens because they want to protect it.
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  Speaker 2: So well, I hope we get it. We hope the
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: voting public understands exactly what you just articulated, because I'm
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: in full agreement with you, and most notably many people
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: abstute observers and things political appreciate the fact that Donald
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: Trump got elected because in large part of his strategy
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: on the border to close it down completely and to
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: deport the illegal, most notably criminal immigrant population. If that
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: is indeed true, then the Democrats have entered into a
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: fool's errand by shutting the government down and ruining people's
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: lives in the name of protecting the very people donald
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: Trump promised to deport.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean that's the stakes. And you know, on
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 9: issue after issue, you know, common sense versus crazy. I mean,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 9: I think it's crazy the position they're taking. I think
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 9: a lot of people think it's crazy. And look, you
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 9: know one of the things that I thought, and someone
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 9: who pointed out, President Trump also created no tax on tips.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 9: So if you're flying, just give some tips to to
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 9: the TSA folks who are there listening paychecks, and we
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 9: should just put a big tip jar up there at
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 9: every place so they can share the tips. I think
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 9: people appreciate these folks, right, I mean, they're there showing up,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 9: not getting paid on time. They didn't cause this, but
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 9: they're showing up the work. I mean it's nutty.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, real quick, Congressman Davidson, probably serve your country serving
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: the American military, real quick. Here, Donald Trump in pointing
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: out we need some assistance over in the Strait of
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: Horror moves. He talked about how powerful we are, how
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: much oil and gas and reserves we had. He offered
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: to sell that to those that are dealing without because
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: of the Strait of Horror moves is shut down. But
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: he said, he to the country of the world, it's
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: your issue. You get in there, take care of the passage.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: Grab it. You could do it easily. We've been helpful.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: We eradicated the Iranian threat. Now get in there and
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: open the straight of horror moves up. Do you think
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: that's going to happen, most notably with an eye toward
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: our NATO quote unquote allies. Congressman Davidson.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, they're weak. I mean, and here's this two. Not
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 9: only do they need this in a lot of ways
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 9: more than we do. They're blocking our access to our
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 9: own bases, you know, to take action to open the
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 9: straight and yeah, okay, they're right, you know, they're like,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 9: well the strait was open until you guys started all
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 9: this combat over there. You know, it's a fair point. Nevertheless,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 9: we are in this situation right now, so what do
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 9: you want to.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: Do about it?
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 9: And their solution is that, well, you can't use your
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 9: bases and you can't fly it through our airspace, which
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 9: to me begs the question, well, then why do we
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 9: have these bases. We certainly don't need to maintain them
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 9: at our expense, and that goes to NATO. I mean,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 9: was sixty plus percent of NATO funding is from US?
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 9: And who does it depend? They want us? Oh well,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 9: America must save us from Russia and Ukraine. We done
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 9: hundreds of billions of dollars in and then we just
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 9: want to use our own bases to an operation that's frankly,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 9: I think we could have thought out a little differently,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 9: but nevertheless, it's underway, and I think it's just stupid
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 9: for these European countries. Tod An is access to our
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 9: own basis.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and it's certainly bringing a bright light of common
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: sense on them. They're the ones that cut their own
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: throat by refusing to tap into their own natural resources
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: and trying to eliminate carbon dioxide from the world. They're
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: the ones that got stuck supporting the Russians. Even though
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: they hate the Russians invading Ukraine, they're still buying their
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: oil and their natural gas, supporting, of course, the Russian economy.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just I can't make any sense out
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: of this, Congressman Davidson. Maybe it'll sort itself out of
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: her time, and of course we'll have you there to
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: talk with us about it here on the fifty five
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: cares See Morning Show. Congressman Davidson, I wish you and
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: your family a very happy Easter this weekend. I hope
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: you have an excellent time, and I'll look forward to
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: having you back on the show real soon.
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  Speaker 9: Thanks Brian, Blessings to you all your listeners, and have
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 9: an awesome Easter.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, my friend. We'll try to do that, folks.
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  Speaker 2: Stick around. It's seven thirty one right now if you
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: have KCD talk station. Timing's everything perfect, timing for russ
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: Neville to be in studio. Russ happens to be police
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: chief Thigi she's on administrative lee, but she's still chief,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: that's her title. We can't figure out quite why she
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: got placed on administrative leave. Nothing articulated by the city
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: of sinn when they placed her on administrative leave. It
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: just happened after that crazy brawl in downtown Cincinnati. So
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: why I guess the city didn't know why because they
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: had to retain an outside law firm to look into
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: police Chief Fiji's thirty five year record to see if
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: they could sort through it and figure out something with hindsight,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: retroactive as it is, to justify why she was placed
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: on administrative leave, and presumably to come up with a
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: reason to fire her. In studio, her brother, Russ Neville,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: part of the Neville family and your storied career in
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: law enforcement here in the city of Cincinnat. Let me start, Russ,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: independent of what's going on with this issue, to thank
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: you and all of your family members for all the
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: service that they have provided the residents of the city
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: of Cincinnati over the years. Man, it is an amazing thing.
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  Speaker 7: Thank you, Brian, very very much appreciated, and to you too,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 7: and thank you for giving us an opportunity to share
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 7: Terry's perspective without her ability to speak to the media
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 7: or the public at this point in time.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: Well, and that's an important thing you just brought up there.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: I was going to ask you what is in coming
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: here and speaking with the listeners today and addressing this.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: What is your role? Do you have a designated role?
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: Are you doing this just because she's your sister? What's
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: the story on that.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 7: At the inception of this meeting with Terry and mister
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 7: m it was recommended by he that if there were
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 7: any media releases or public statements, that'd be done by
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 7: one individual, and both Terry and mister m requested or
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 7: recommended that I do so, and I'm trying to do
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 7: it to the best of my ability to benefit Terry.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: Fair enough, and misterim is her attorney, which will make
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: the record clear on that here in the morning show.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: Now you read the report, your reactions. You were talking
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: to I guess it was Tricia Mackie or one of
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: the other local reporters, and I saw your comments. A
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: lot of the comments you made were similar to the
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: observations I made. And of course you're far more intimately
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: involved with this than I am. But it was all
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: my Again when I came on the show yesterday morning.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: I started out with, Okay, you got thirty two people
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: that were apparently interviewed within the CINCINNT Police Department that
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: comprised the conclusions in this report. And I said, well,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: there are one hundreds, nine hundred or so officers. And
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: I asked you this morning on that because thirty two
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  Speaker 2: out of a contingent of how many total officers.
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  Speaker 7: Well are the sworn there's approximately nine hundred. There's an
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 7: ebb and flow with that, and then you have the
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 7: civilian positions which carry between two and three hundred, so
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 7: you're at twelve to thirteen hundred people.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Logically, I want to ask, how is it that
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: they arrived at just these thirty two because I cannot
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: imagine that with all the officers you just mentioned that
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: every single one of them carried the same conclusions that
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: we draw from. What the conclusions are from the law firm?
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: One sided they have, you know, these these sort of
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: I feel I believe speculative comments, perhaps biased comments, but
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: are you telling me that this law firm couldn't find
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: a single human being who was happy with Police Chief
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: Diji's role as chief or her career in law enforcement.
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  Speaker 7: That's kind of a two prone question. It is, we know,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 7: factually there were those that were interviewed who had positive
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 7: statements about Terry, who have reached out to Terry since
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 7: very upset about the fact that the entire report was negative,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 7: and their names will ultimately be affiliated with that report,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 7: which would imply that they spoke negatively and it's not factual,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 7: and they're hurt by it and Terry's hurt by it.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 7: The other aspect is you would have to ask the
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 7: law firm and well City of Cincinnati how they came
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 7: to interviewing thirty people of twelve or thirteen hundred.
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  Speaker 2: And trust me, in anticipation of whatever litigation comes out
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: of this, which I've been pretty much convinced is going
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: to happen, those people will be interviewed, they will be deposed,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: their testimony will be on record, and given the wheels
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: of justice spend very slowly, we're going to have to
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: wait for it. But it's going to come out. They
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: all know it. Let's pause for a moment. We'll get
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: more from russ Neville on this very important topic for
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: the area. Seven thirty five right now, they should It
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  Speaker 2: is seven thirty nine coming to with a seven forty
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  Speaker 2: here fifty five kc DE talk station. He's going to
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  Speaker 2: be making the rounds today in studio Russ Noble, brother
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  Speaker 2: of since a police chief threes A Thigi talking about
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  Speaker 2: this craziness going on in downtown. So we get this.
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  Speaker 2: What you describe, I believe is one sided report, and
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  Speaker 2: I think that's an accurate assessment. There is nothing in
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  Speaker 2: this law firm's report about police Chief Thiji's career that
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  Speaker 2: is described as positive. There are no positive comments. People
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  Speaker 2: were generally negative. The thirty two of the hundreds of
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  Speaker 2: officers they chose to interview, we don't know how they
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  Speaker 2: arrived with that group. You've already pointed out, Russ, that
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  Speaker 2: some of the people who did talk to the law
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  Speaker 2: firm actually did express positive things to say about Police
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  Speaker 2: Chief Thiji, and yet surprisingly no reference to that in
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  Speaker 2: the report. And then also I thought this was rather
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  Speaker 2: interesting and perhaps telling. There was an attorney, Brian redd
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  Speaker 2: and he's in a ployment attorney that was interviewed by
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  Speaker 2: Fox nineteen. He called the report bear. It doesn't reference
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  Speaker 2: any specific witness notes, it doesn't have quotes in it.
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  Speaker 2: But he also pointed out and I thought this was
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  Speaker 2: rather interesting, he said. It raises a red flags the
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  Speaker 2: introduction list as its third objective, determining whether the chief
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  Speaker 2: committed any infraction or policy violation while serving as police chief,
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  Speaker 2: and that, of course should have been the central focus
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  Speaker 2: of the investigation. Questioning like why do you bury the
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  Speaker 2: lead with the third question being the most important and
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  Speaker 2: then you don't deal with it in the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the report. There's nothing in here that says she did
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  Speaker 2: something that justified termination, because there is none there.
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  Speaker 7: You have it, and they're avoiding in that report if
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  Speaker 7: you won't even call it a report. In that document,
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  Speaker 7: there is no evidence of such. There's no mention of such,
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  Speaker 7: and we know with Terry's history and everything that's come
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  Speaker 7: to fruition to this point, there are none. And that's
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  Speaker 7: why you have an administrator suspension in October, six month
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  Speaker 7: half assed, backward slanted report conducted or completed by an
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  Speaker 7: outside vendor law firm who is clearly working under the
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  Speaker 7: direction of the city in some way, shape or form.
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  Speaker 7: I make a point in there yesterday, Brian. It's interesting
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  Speaker 7: to me. One of the opening sentences is that the
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  Speaker 7: Solicitor's office did not demand any form of conclusion. And
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  Speaker 7: I find the word demand very interesting. Red flag red flag.
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  Speaker 7: That doesn't mean they didn't request, discuss, suggest, and they think, yes,
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  Speaker 7: demand is a very much a red flag.
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  Speaker 2: It's a u law firm must reach this conclusion. I
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  Speaker 2: agree that probably never ever there's no demand like that.
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  Speaker 2: But of course, and I'm you know, having practiced law,
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  Speaker 2: I know that you can hire an outside expert and
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  Speaker 2: you could kind of nudge, nudge, wink wink, suggest to
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: them what outcome you want when they're looking at a
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  Speaker 2: weld or whatever, and some will in fact sacrifice the
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  Speaker 2: run morals and ethics to give you the result you want,
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  Speaker 2: even though the forensic evidence doesn't necessarily support it. Oh shocking,
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  Speaker 2: no one. So if nudge nudge, wink wink, you know
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  Speaker 2: a law firm, you might just get some additional work
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  Speaker 2: from the city of Cincinnati. You know what we'd like
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  Speaker 2: to see. We'd like to have a justification. We'd like
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  Speaker 2: to have it, but we're not demanding it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I we believe the law firm recognizes there is nothing
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  Speaker 7: in their worthy of termination for Terry, and they compiled
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  Speaker 7: the slanted report on behalf.
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  Speaker 4: Of the city.
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  Speaker 7: It's exactly what to some degree what we expected that
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  Speaker 7: report to be from the onset. I've called it a
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 7: mythical narrative from the beginning. Mister rim termed it as
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  Speaker 7: a hatchet job. And look what we have.
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  Speaker 2: So I guess we need to figure out what the
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  Speaker 2: next step is. I mean, I guess City Manager Cheryl
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  Speaker 2: Long has the hire and fire authority insofar as who's
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  Speaker 2: going to be police chief, and the chief is not
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  Speaker 2: part of and correct me, Russ if I'm wrong, not
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  Speaker 2: part of the collective bargaining agreement because she serves or
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  Speaker 2: he is the case, maybe he serves at the whim
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: of the city manager and city government. Right.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I am not the attorney, nor am I the expert,
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  Speaker 7: but they are not part of the collective barting agreement.
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  Speaker 7: But there are charter protections, okay, and that is what
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  Speaker 7: will develop as time goes on, if I understand it correctly.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I guess the only reason I want to say
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  Speaker 2: that is because if this ayer was directed toward a
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  Speaker 2: rank and file member of the since a police department,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: that member would turn to the collective Bargaining Agreement and
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  Speaker 2: that we would go through the process that is established
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  Speaker 2: there in dealing with their employment situation.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, and it is of interest here, Brian. Historically unions
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 7: and chiefs have some adversarial element to it, even though
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  Speaker 7: they have a working relationship. The FOP president Ken Kober
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  Speaker 7: has spoken out strongly not in support of Terry at
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 7: least as opposed to the process here and anything that
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 7: they are trying to achieve in the way they're going
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  Speaker 7: about achieving it. So, while she's not under the collective
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  Speaker 7: Barting agreement, she is well respected by the rank and file.
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  Speaker 7: She was well respected by the president of the FOP
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 7: as well as the board and the vice president, and
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  Speaker 7: they have spoken on her behalf. So that speaks volumes.
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  Speaker 2: It does indeed speak volumes. And you know what else,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: Russ will take a break down. But what else speaks volumes? Huh.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about her performance reviews. Let's talk about how
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  Speaker 2: the city at least perceived her up until the moment
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  Speaker 2: she was placed on administrative leave in their out loud
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: comments about the police chief.
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  Speaker 7: Let me let me get into my files here, Brian.
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  Speaker 7: See if I can find.
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  Speaker 2: Those performance Yeah, I know, good luck, we'll come back,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't think Russ will have achieved his objective
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  Speaker 2: along those lines. Hold on, we'll come back with Russ
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  Speaker 2: Neville seven five right now, if you five kars seven
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  Speaker 2: forty nine here for the five krs de talk station,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: Brian Thomas, Russ and Neville in studio, part of the
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  Speaker 2: Neville family. Just an absolute blessing for the city of Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 2: Had the Nevils in the police work for multiple how
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  Speaker 2: many generations? Russ three three regenerations? That's amazing and God
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: bless each and every one of you. Of course a
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: brother of police chief Feeds. You've been talking about this. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: So we we roll up the neck. Last year, we
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: got the violence in the streets. We have police Chief
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  Speaker 2: Theiji placed on administratively for mysterious unknown reasons. We got
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: this report that came out obviously biased, obviously one sided.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: There's not a single positive thing to say about Police
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  Speaker 2: Chief Theji except for the words that she articulated herself.
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  Speaker 2: The only person identified in the report, police Chief Theiji.
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  Speaker 2: None of the witnesses identified. Again, going back to only
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  Speaker 2: thirty two individuals we're spoken with. Now we know that
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  Speaker 2: quite a few of them, I don't know how many,
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: but have reached out to Russ and other members of
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: the Fiji family or the Neville family say, listen, I
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: said good things about it. They have only put in
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: the negative in this report. It's wrong, it's fair, it's unbiased.
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  Speaker 2: But moving over to police chief Fiji, how many thirty
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  Speaker 2: five years with the Cincinni Police Department RUSS, Yes, sir,
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  Speaker 2: thirty five years, yes, sir. Now she was appointed the
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: chief of police correct now. Apparently they looked at her
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: background before they told her that she's going to be
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: the chief of police. I bet she's got a pretty
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: good long term record with the Sinceni Police Department RUSS.
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  Speaker 7: The review at the time appeared very thorough, and the
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  Speaker 7: process was thorough, and she was selected by the city manager.
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  Speaker 7: And she has performed with the expectations with the admirably.
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  Speaker 2: Then up until the moment of times she was placed
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  Speaker 2: on administrative leave. Do you recall Mayor I have to
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: have parl all city Manager Cheryl Long any of the
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: members of council commenting negatively apply on her, because it
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: seems to me they had glowing praise for her in
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: that role. No, there are none.
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  Speaker 7: Prior to the recall from Denver for the purpose of
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  Speaker 7: a meeting which led to this, Terry had no idea
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 7: this was coming. There was not no indication all everything positive.
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  Speaker 7: Matter of fact, Brian, I don't do social media. Family does,
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  Speaker 7: and they have found clip after clip after clip of
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 7: positive statements, positive photos, everything that you would have thought
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 7: was a positive relationship.
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  Speaker 2: And how often does one get a performance review with annually? Annually? Okay?
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  Speaker 2: And she was in the role as police chief for
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: a full year? Was she? I believe it was two
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  Speaker 2: two full years? And at any time did they bring
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: her in for a performance review?
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  Speaker 7: No, And she was interim for a period of time,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 7: pride It is true as well. So not only did
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 7: she have the time as chief, they got to see
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  Speaker 7: what kind of a performance she would provide and what
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 7: kind of a leader she would be during that interim time.
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  Speaker 2: And what if they haven't done one under the normal course,
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  Speaker 2: which is as you suggested, annually, if someone is engaging
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: in inappropriate conduct, has violated a police norm, is a
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: bad manager of people, generally speaking, and the city management,
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: like Cheryl Long, becomes aware of that. Would that prompt
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  Speaker 2: a performance review or a sit down, a discussion.
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  Speaker 7: It wouldn't prompt a review an annual performance review those
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 7: should be done annually regardless regardless of their circumstances.
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  Speaker 2: So the failure to.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 7: Do that, I can't even begin to answer. But they
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 7: don't exist.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't happen.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 7: As far as if there were any performance issues, yes,
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 7: there the expectation would be in any industry, not specific
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 7: to law enforcement, in any industry. And we've done it
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 7: over the years with personnel from the rank of po
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 7: up through the rank of captain that I'm have been
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 7: involved and engaged in. So yeah, you would sit them down,
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 7: have a discussion, document the discussion most of the time,
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 7: some of it's not a documented discussion. Most of the
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 7: time it is, and then there's an expectation placed on
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 7: what where their shortcomings may be. What the expectator. It's
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 7: a performance improvement.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: Right corrective action plan. Chief DG. We think you're failing
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: behind in these couple of areas. Here's what we're going
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: to recommend you do to turn things around. Never, not
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: even there's no discussion like that at all ever occurred.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 7: None, zero, To the point that I have asked that
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 7: question of Terry numerous times just to make sure my
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 7: answers are accurate, there have been none, and she had
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 7: no idea there was anything negative regarding the relationship, the interaction,
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 7: or her performance until until time until she went out
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 7: of town. And I think there was a statement by
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 7: the manager of the mayor at one point when somebody
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 7: asked a question of during one of those incidents of
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 7: violent crime, and they had placed the thought or consideration
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 7: that there might be some association with Terry Terry's performance
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 7: during that incident or something.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: But that was close in time to being placed, extremely close,
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: that's my point, okay, But that up until that moment
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: in time, someone hit a concern with her flying out
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: of town and going to that Denver conference of law
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: enforcement officers. Correct.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 7: Yes, and at the direction and agreement with the manager
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 7: to be there to do so. And I think there
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 7: was even some discussion about, you know, go out and
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 7: regarding some of the circumstances and national standards and communicate
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 7: and interact and bring some some information.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: Back to make the city police better. Yes, And she
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: did not know. How could she know? She's told to
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: go to the conference, goes to the conference. She had
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: no idea this was going to unfold while she was gone.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: The crime can happen eighty times. She's got to do
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: her job and get this information to bring it back.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 7: It's part of her role, as part of any administrator's role.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 7: And no, there was no end not to go, and
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 7: there was a purpose for going, and it was communicated
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 7: through and with whomever job related functions very much. And
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 7: let me tell you, Terry's life outside of the family,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 7: the grandkids and her kids obviously is critically important. But
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 7: her twenty four hours a day was focused on the
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 7: police department. It's not just during her time as chief.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 7: It was time as captain, or time as assistant chief,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 7: or time as executive, or time as chief. And that's
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 7: the way she is and that's the way she operated.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 7: So yes, twenty four hours a day was on her
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 7: mind in some fashion, okay.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: And so up until that moment in time, nothing but praise,
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: positive reviews, and in fact, no performance reviews were even
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: bothered given. And this sit down meetings nothing. I think
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: you've established really a very clear record here, you know, Russ,
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: I think this is extremely important to talk about. Now.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: I know there are listeners, maybe in Claremont County or elsewhere.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: I can have Mississippi Jans all though he's back in town,
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: he listens for Mississippi. This may not be a topic
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: that really people think they can't relate to. Oh, this
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: is just a stupid city political matter, But no, the
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: city of Cincinnati has power, control and influence over the
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: entire region. Whatever happens within the City of Cincinnati is
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: going to impact all of us. Hell, you may get
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: more residents in your surrounding county Claremont County, Warren County,
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: Butler County. You're going to benefit from people leaving the
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: city to find someplace safer to live. So this impacts broadly.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: Plus it's also a reflection of government generally speaking and
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: how well elections do in fact have consequences. So whether
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: it's the city of Cincinnati, Columbus, Ohio, here in Iowa,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: or Frankfurt, you know, this is the kind of activity
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: that happens all the time, so it really is important
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: to talk about it maybe a micro level of a
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: broader problem that exists on a macro level as well
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: in federal government. Russ Neville. I hope it all works
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: out the Chief DG's benefit. Obviously, there's so many holes
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: in this report. I have a feeling her lawyer is
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: going to have a field day with it, and I
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: do expect litigation, not asking you to comment on it.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: I just see it coming down the road.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 7: Russ are comment on the fact that there's an anticipation
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 7: of litigation, there's an anticipation of termination. And while I
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 7: don't mean this enough, we look forward to it positively,
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 7: like enjoyably. We do look forward to the opportunity for
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 7: Terry to be heard, for depositions to take be taken,
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 7: and we know who those deposed people, individuals likely or
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 7: will be, and the truth will come out, the facts
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 7: will come out, and Terry will have her say, and
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 7: Terry will stand tall at the.
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  Speaker 2: End, and we will patiently wait for that happened to happen.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: Russ Neville, thank you for your time today and I
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: appreciate your advocacy on behalf of your sister and sort
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: of the broader topic of government around government runs generally.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: We'll have you back in hopefully soon, Russ. Have a
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: great weekend and happy the talk station. It's eight six
• 1:37:33
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• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: happy Friday eve. Do you call it Thursday if you want,
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: I prefer the former. Coming to the bottom of the hour,
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: as always, I heard media aviation expert Jay Ratliffe, but
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: I am pleased to welcome to the fifty five Karssee
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: Morning Show for the first time, Judge Andrew King. You
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: can find him online at vote Andrew King dot com
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: and you want to do that because he is currently
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: running for a seat on the Ohio Supreme Court, challenging
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: Democrat incumbent Jennifer Brunner. Judge King, great to have you
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: on the program this morning.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 4: Welcome, Well, it's great to be here. Thanks for having me.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to observe right out of the gate Gump.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: I practice law for sixteen years and still have my
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: law degree, so I do understand the problems that a
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: judge has running for office no advisory opinions. It's how
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: difficult is it to keep your mouth shut and not
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: try to suggest how you would rule in any given
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: case because you're prohibited from doing that, Judge King, it
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: can be.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 10: A little bit something and frustrated around.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, as a judge, people.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 10: Bring you their issues, their concerns and want you to
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 10: tell them how this.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 4: Should turn out. So yeah, when you're on another campaign,
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 4: there's sort.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 10: Of a well, hey, let me tell you, but as
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 10: you know, we don't do that, and it's really primarily
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 10: because you want every case to be decided on the maris,
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 10: on the issues in front of it. You don't want
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 10: somebody who's going to do what we've seen some of
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 10: these judges do, right, say, well, if it's the other party,
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 10: if it's a president I don't like or whatever, I'm
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 10: going to rule a certain way. I'm going to contort
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 10: myself so get to a certain outcome. So you know,
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  Speaker 10: I can't be frustrating, but I think on balance it
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  Speaker 10: helps ensure that we be judges, not politicians and roads well.
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  Speaker 2: And this is extremely important. Your point about some judges
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  Speaker 2: just a question of whose ox is being gored to
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  Speaker 2: how they're going to ruin any given decision. You need
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  Speaker 2: to be firm in your constitutional understanding. You need to
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  Speaker 2: be understand that you know this case in front of
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  Speaker 2: me is going to go away that I'm not. I
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: personally might not prefer, but because I am consistent and
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  Speaker 2: loyal to the law, I must rent rule accordingly. So
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  Speaker 2: that's a that's a great position to spring from firm
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  Speaker 2: and convictions. And you are a what I would call
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  Speaker 2: a constitutional conservative, are you not.
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  Speaker 4: That's right, That's exactly right.
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  Speaker 10: And and as you probably know, this is that being
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  Speaker 10: a constutional conservative, at least in my mind, is I
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  Speaker 10: mean to be sure my own personal values.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a conservative of my own life and on those values.
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  Speaker 10: But as a judge, I have to find the law
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  Speaker 10: the voters and legislators put in.
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  Speaker 4: Front of me. But that means I apply to law. Right.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 10: If it's a constitution, we're applying originalist type techniques.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 4: If it's a statute, we're.
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  Speaker 10: Applying textless type techniques. You one, I think that's just
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  Speaker 10: generally the better approach, But too it has a separation
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  Speaker 10: of powers function right that we as judges don't get
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  Speaker 10: to be super legislators or a super governor and get
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 10: to veto legislation we don't like. That's not what we do.
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  Speaker 4: We say, you pick the.
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  Speaker 10: Words, you put them on paper, you express what you want,
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  Speaker 10: and then we'll apply it based on what you did.
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  Speaker 4: Not what we want.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and quite often that requires sending things back to
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  Speaker 2: the legislative brands because they didn't do it right. In
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  Speaker 2: the first case, it's not constitutional. It falls outside the constitution.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: But unlike an activist court might do, write an opinion
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: drafting legislation effectively and calling that law, you say no,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: your law is struck down because it's unconstitutional. It go
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: back to the drawing board and do it drawing board,
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  Speaker 2: and do it right now. I mean that's a tough
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: function of judges who can often go the liberal interpretation
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: side of things, like I can use Roe v. Wade
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  Speaker 2: as an example perfect illustration of legislative drafting. Ultimately, the
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: Supreme Court overturns it because look, there's nothing in the constitution.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: You know, it's like articles or it's like Article ten
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  Speaker 2: kind of stuff. If we don't have a specific reserve power,
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  Speaker 2: it belongs to the states. You have at it.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you're you're exactly right.
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  Speaker 10: And I think that was just as Sillia's long standing
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 10: position before the Dobs case was, you know, show me
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  Speaker 10: where it's its constitution.
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  Speaker 4: It said this, and this goes back to what I.
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  Speaker 10: Was sort of saying with the textual commitment is you know,
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 10: we all have principles and ideas and philosophies, but the
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 10: words are what we as lawyers, we as judges, legislators,
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 10: the governor when they're choosing to veto something, or the president.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 10: I mean, the words are what sort of governs us
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 10: and drives us and we can't pretend like we can
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  Speaker 10: it's otherwise, and we can look past that to get
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 10: to a pre determined outcome. So I think it helps
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 10: sort of keep everyone honest. And like you said, if
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 10: it's hey, the statue fell outside the constitution, well there's
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 10: an iterative process for that. It goes back to the
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 10: General Assembly and they can say, all right, well let's
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 10: make it more narrow statute and narrow the tailored whatever
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 10: it is, and then we'll try again. And and you know,
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 10: honest think on balance that's okay, because what's the point
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 10: of a constitution if we as the people don't hurt
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 10: some rights beyond the reach of ordinary legislation. So you
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 10: know that sometimes that happens, not frequently as you might
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 10: imagine that. You would know this as a lawyer. It's
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 10: not like every case is that a constitutional issue lurking
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 10: in there. But when they're there, I think you got
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 10: to call them, you know, a strike, a strike, and
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 10: a ball of all of them.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you do. And I got to ask just I
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: was strongly encourage my listeners go to vote Andrew King
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  Speaker 2: dot com. Your your your legal background is unbelievably impressive.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: You're currently on the Fiftiship Court of Appeals. Hundreds of
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: appell opinions have been written by you. You were previously
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: also on the Seventh District Court of Appeals by assignment
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: from the huh Supreme Court. Dedicated member of the Federalist Society.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: I circled that Right out of the Gate Judge King,
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: because I remember I was in the Federalist Society too.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: That's for the folks who believe the Constitution means what
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: it says it is, and it's restrict adherence to these
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: fundamental constitutional principles. You got all kinds of You were
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: assistant prosecutor to prosecuting attorney in Delaware County. I could
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: go on and on, so check his background out. Obviously
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: well respected member of the legal community. And for my
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: fellow firearms owning friends and believers in the Second Amendment,
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: I see Right out of the Gate not only on
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: your website but also on the other materials. Proud member
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: of Right out of the Gate, Buckeye Firearms and the
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: Hio Gun Collectors Association. I'm a member of the OGCA
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: as well and an NRA life member. You staunchly support
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: the Second Amendment. No advisory opinion in that Judge King,
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: you say it out loud, right up front, but.
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  Speaker 10: Hey, it's in the constitution, right, It's an amendment that
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 10: deserves respect. There was a long time didn't get it.
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  Speaker 10: And I'm glad to say I was endorsed by Highlights
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 10: of Life a couple of weeks ago. But it was
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 10: a couple of days ago, Ohio Buckeye Firms endorsed me.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 10: So I'm proud of that. As you mentioned of firearms owners,
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 10: achl holder for a long time, and I'm you know,
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 10: it's it's a right of equal magnitude of importance. And
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 10: as sometimes it said, it's the second Amendment is the
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 10: one that protects all the other So I definitely think
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 10: it's an important amendment.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: Well in the second Amendment. Bruin case is another great
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: illustration of what the you know, what the document, what
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: the Constitution actually means. What were the framers thinking when
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: they wrote the words down. That's what Bruin said, what
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: it existed at the time, not what we've come up
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: with down the road. That's completely different. And that takes
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: the Constitution out of what the framers had in mind
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: when they when they when they drafted it, and and
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 2: uh and enacted and adopted.
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  Speaker 10: It exactly exactly, and I mean, you know, it's a
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 10: legislative process and a lot of things go into but
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 10: at the end of the day, the words were chosen
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 10: to carry forward some meanings on purpose. Everyone when they
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 10: looked at it had some common understanding of what that meant,
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 10: and we can't pretend otherwise. And for a long time,
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 10: I think there were folks that tried to pretend the
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 10: Second Amendment that something other than what the texts actually
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 10: said shall not be frankly, so yeah, I think that
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 10: words are always important.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: I've had a real problem and a lot of my
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 2: listeners have as well. Here in Hamilton County. We are
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: overwhelmed with what I will characterize this is not your words,
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: Judge King, woke judges who don't believe in the point
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: of having a criminal justice system, which I would argue,
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: and as I learned in law school, includes a leg
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 2: that's important, which is you punish individuals for breaking the
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: law to serve as an illustration to others who might
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: go in the same direction that they too will suffer
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: the fate of others who've gone before them. It's also
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: to punish the individual for doing bad things also provide
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: some relief to family members who've been victims of crimes.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: Multiple reasons there. I'm not even going to bother suggesting
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: you're going to get reformed in prison, because you know
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: that doesn't work out. But these judges don't seem to
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: understand that. I mean, we've looked at California where they
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: decriminalize stealing. Look what happens. Stealing becomes rampant. We don't
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: prosecute young people. Teenagers run am up in the city
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: of Cincinnati. They're not held accountable. The problem seems to
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: get worse. Isn't it not an important thing for of
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: judges presiding over criminal matters to actually meet out punishment
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: when those individuals have been proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
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  Speaker 10: Judge King, sure, I mean it's our general assemblies. Put
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 10: it right in there, sort of the overriding purposes of
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 10: a sentencing is incapacity offenders, rehabilitate offenders, and punish offenders.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 10: I mean, it's right in there. So I think it's
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 10: absolutely true. And to your point about the judges taking
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 10: liberties with things in the criminal justice system, as you
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 10: well know that the Bow case for a few years ago,
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 10: coming out of fethert, Ohio. There that all the pre
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 10: trial bond standards away, and you couldn't consider not all,
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 10: they couldn't consider the dangerousness of the person anymore. I mean,
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 10: you could have someone in for rapeer a murder, and
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 10: the judge now suddenly can't say, well, you know, you're
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 10: a danger to the community, you should stay in jail.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 10: So inevitably, what happens those folks go out and they
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 10: were said of me while they're hanging over them, And
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 10: it was the craziest thing. And I'm glad the voters,
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 10: the general assemblieve fix the Supreme Court's air on that.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: So am I Judge King. And finally, before we've part
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: company again, it's vote Andrew King dot com. How difficult
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: is it to be a judge? We have a problem
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 2: here in Hamilton County. There's a lot of judicial spots
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: open for the November election, but sadly no Republican candidates. Now,
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: I understand the struggle in this very blue region of
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: the country, but they're not willing to run. And I
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: asked out loud from people in the know, is it
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: because people don't want to be a judge? And the
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: answer in many cases is. Yeah, you can't find great
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: lawyers that might be wonderful judges because they don't want
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: the pressure and the stress at these modern times bring down.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: You're going to be presiding over criminal matters, maybe gang
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: members in your court, maybe some very violent evil people.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: We have social media, people are going to doc you,
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: people are going to know who you are. You're an
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: elected official, for God's sake. Do you feel that pressure
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: as you're currently sitting on their fifth District Court of
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: Appeals and do you have any concerns about that going forward?
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: Judge King?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it's a very real thing now at
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 10: the appellate level, I don't think it happens is often often.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 10: I'm not saying it doesn't. Oursonal instances of it. The
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 10: trial judges definitely. They're the folks that are taking people's
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 10: liberties away.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 4: They're the ones sending.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 10: People to jail for long periods of time, and you know,
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 10: unhappy divorces and all those sorts of things. So they
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 10: definitely see it. And I think that there's been a
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 10: general coursening and that were sort of played out tragically
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 10: with Charlie Kirk, so you know, sort of seen this
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 10: with attats on skedges and public officials and not criticizing.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 10: I mean, I think it's fair to criticize them, and
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 10: I just the Supreme Court for what they did and
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 10: to vote. But it's that that next step, and I
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 10: think that, yes, I think.
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  Speaker 4: That that's one of the things that does keep people
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 4: away from wanting to do this is because you do there.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think you do this long enough, you've
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 4: got someone you're worried about, it's going to show up
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 4: in your driveway.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: Well, I view it as something like some people sign
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: up to serve their country in military, knowing full well
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: that they're gonna be in placed in harm's way, and
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: yet they do it anyway. So I salute you j
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: Andrew King, Judge King, and your question for to become
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: a justice for the Supreme Court here in Ohio in
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: your effort to unseat Jennifer Brunner sounds to me like
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: a positive development. And I'll courage my listeners to help
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: you out by turning to your web page and see
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  Speaker 2: might help. It's vote Andrew King dot com. Judge King,
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  Speaker 2: it's been great having you on the show. Perhaps you
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: and I will talk again before the election in the fall.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 4: I little enjoyed it.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: You're welcome here in the fifty five on Thursday, Friday Eve.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: I love this time and they we can talk with
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: iHeart Media aviation expert Jay Rattler. He is nationwide. He
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: is the sole aviation expert for the entire iHeartMedia Corporation,
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: hundreds of stations, and we are lucky enough to get
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: him for a few segments every Thursday here in the
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  Speaker 2: fifty five. Carsey Morning Shore, Welcome back, my friend. Happy
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  Speaker 2: Thursday in advance, early Happy Easter to you, my brother.
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  Speaker 8: It's gonna be a great holiday. A lot to be
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 8: thankful for, and the same to you.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: Is a lot to be thankful for. And that's one
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: of the things I love being friends with you on
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 2: Facebook over because you always have something really positive to
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: say in your post. You're not screaming and yelling at everybody,
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: You're not stirring the pot of descent. You're just making
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: great observations exactly like that. Life's filled with miracles. Pay
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: attention to them, enjoy them while you got them, and
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: appreciate the benefits and the gift of life that we
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: have here. Let me ask you this aviation expert rockets
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: are part of aviation. What did you think of the
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: Artemist two lift off? Did you watch it?
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  Speaker 5: All?
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 8: Well, it planned on it and then Cherry and I
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 8: went out to dinner, so I was kind of watching
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 8: it on my phone and just throw I mean, it
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 8: was you know, it's historic. And you know, of all
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 8: of the former astronauts that I was able to be
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 8: around and talk to and listen to, they were all
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 8: wanting their work to be you know, built on. They
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 8: wanted the exploration, the science, the discovery to continue. And
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 8: I'm just thrilled that it is. And you know, the
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 8: idea that we've got this ongoing, it's just it gives
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 8: the younger generation a taste of what I had. Yep,
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 8: you know back in the sixties and early seventies when
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 8: you had people going to the moon and except then
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 8: it was the first time ever. And you know, it's
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 8: it's thrilling. I just love it. And you know, as
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 8: we gear towards getting back to the Moon and based
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 8: on the Moon perhaps and then headed for Mars and
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 8: points beyond, I just think that that's just incredible.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. It is and you know, I obviously,
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 2: as a very young person, was with the Apollo program.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: Of course I had all the toys, the lunar rove
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: toy in the models of the various stages of the
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: Apollo aircraft or the Hollow spacecraft. But more of a
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: Lindberg moment with that one, because obviously the first time
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: set of the moon. Oh my god, space travel and
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: landing and men of the Moon, this seems to be
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: quite different because we're kind of used to travel this way.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: We're used to seeing rockets go up. And I was
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 2: really blown away by when they were talking about the
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: astronauts on this this this flight, how much experience they
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: have actually going in and out of orbit already. These
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: people are not new to the whole flying into outer
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: space rodeo.
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  Speaker 4: Oh no, no.
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  Speaker 8: But I like some of the observations of the older
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 8: pilots that are thinking, gosh, look at all the room
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 8: they've got in their capitle versus what we went up
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 8: in so and I think that's worth noting as well.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 8: But no, these are incredibly intelligent men and women that yeah,
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 8: they know what they're doing and it's and they've got
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 8: to be that way for any of the unknowns that happened,
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 8: because that's that's what a lot of the astronauts who've
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 8: been to space safe. Yes, enjoy it, but you're always
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 8: preparing yourself for the end owned for something that might happen,
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 8: that you might have to work the problem. And so
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 8: it's going to be something where they're going to be
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 8: on edge until they get there and back, always preparing
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 8: for what might happen and how they can respond to it.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 8: And they're prepared, they're well trained, and you've got a
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 8: great ground team and so far everything's working as it should.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 8: So it's exciting stuff.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: A little tense for me. I remember when the Challenger
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: blew up. So I'm sitting there on the edge of
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: my seat with this nervous feeling in the back of
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: my head like, oh my God, like any second we
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: could be witnesses to an absolute epic disaster. And I
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 2: was prayerful and thankful that that obviously did not happen yesterday.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: So we wish them all the best on the bounds
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 2: of the journey. And it's phase three, four and then
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 2: ultimately five is going to be building a space on
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  Speaker 2: the Moon. Apparently Jay Ratliss love it back to airplanes.
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  Speaker 2: Delta Airlines teaming up with Amazon why.
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  Speaker 8: They're going to increase the Wi Fi power on board
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 8: flights and they up to five times. In fact, they're
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 8: saying Delta on these planes are going to be retrofitted
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 8: as a twenty twenty eight that if you want, you
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 8: can you know, attend a zoom call during your flight.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 8: Right now, they're saying that it's going to be that good,
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 8: but they're trying to not open the door for a
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 8: lot of conversations and those kinds of things that are ongoing,
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 8: because that's something that's never really set well with consumers
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 8: when they've asked about, hey, what do you think about
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 8: the possibility of using your phone or some sort of
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 8: communication device on a plane. I mean almost overwhelmingly most
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 8: people are saying no. But the idea that you could
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 8: listen into a conference call or you know, somehow respond
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  Speaker 8: and actually work in a meeting as you fly is
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 8: something that Delta says, Hey, this is going to be
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 8: you know, the next step for us, and it's going
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 8: to be great for our consumers. And you know, I
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 8: think a lot of people that would be the case
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 8: because if you can get work done on the flight
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 8: and it's not got a meeting two or three that
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 8: you don't have to be at.
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  Speaker 4: It shouldn get other things done.
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  Speaker 8: I can see that being a very pot for benefit,
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 8: and Delta wants to put that in the hands of
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 8: their consumers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, as maybe me being sitting sitting next to you
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  Speaker 2: on that future flight. We're on a zoom call just
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 2: where your damn headsets so the whole airplane doesn't have
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 2: to hear you.
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  Speaker 4: Yep. I think that that also given.
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  Speaker 8: And I think more and more airlines are going to
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 8: be pushing for that and say look in flight attendant's
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 8: good lord. I mean, the list of things they have
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 8: to do and police just continues to grow. But that's
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 8: one of the other things. And airlines are making it clear,
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 8: you know, we put up with this and not really
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 8: responded to it, but we're going to now so you know,
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 8: just behave well.
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  Speaker 2: And I guess this proves all the people right who
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 2: didn't believe that their cell phone and being hooked up
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 2: the WiFi was going to crash the airplane remember those days.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 2: I do.
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  Speaker 8: In fact, I had a lot of people say there's
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 8: nothing to it. But I was on a Northwest flight
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 8: going into Detroit when one of the avionics panels went out,
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 8: it just recycled, and the captain called for the lead
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 8: flight attends and somebody just turned on the phone in
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 8: the first class it turned off.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 2: I guess they resolved that all that.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 8: I thought there must be something to this now. Right now,
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 8: with a lot of the modern things we have now, Brian,
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 8: I think that's much less of a concern. And look,
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 8: we've already had flights with people using their phones on
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 8: planes and things and and nothing happened, right, And I
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 8: think that the likelihood is minimal.
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 4: But look, if it's.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 8: A one and a hundred chance that my phone could
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 8: mess anything up, I prefer not to take that chance.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 2: Fair Enough, we'll bring Jay Ratliffe back to talk about
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 2: a couple of developments in the Air Canada issue after
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: that crash on the runway, that a whole lot more
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  Speaker 2: with iHeart media aviation expert Jay Ratleft stick around fifty five.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 2: Ever been in a cockpit before? Ay thirty nine if
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  Speaker 2: you about kir CD talk station, Jay Rattlift I heeart media
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: aviation expert, going into the aviation related issues today as
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 2: we do every Thursday, being at eight thirty. Moving over
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  Speaker 2: to Eric Canada. I saw this and I literally laughed
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 2: when it was just the headline I saw, but it
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: summed it up quite nicely. President of Eric Canna had
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: to has to retire carently getting a lot of heat
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: because he doesn't speak French. Is that's a problem if
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 2: you're a Canadian. You got those folks in Montreal that
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: don't understand a word you're saying.
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  Speaker 8: Well, especially when you're offering condolences for the crew members
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 8: that were lost in the crash. And that was what
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 8: really didn't set well with a lot of Canadians is saying, look,
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 8: not even in our native language can you offer condolences.
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 8: It was a speech in English, and they he's announced
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 8: he's going to be retiring. The the the pr people
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 8: are saying no, no, no, no, no no, it was just
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 8: his time. Had nothing to do with that. And then
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 8: some of the more astute journalists said, Okay, you're gonna
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 8: be going to be replaced. Will the successor be able
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 8: to speak? Oh, that'll be that'll be a requirement. So
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 8: you know there's something there about about this because it
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 8: was just embarrassing and it was, but look, he was
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 8: brought there because he knows what he's doing Ye lead
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 8: an airline, and he's good at what he does. But
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 8: when you get behind in this kind of a curve,
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 8: it's tough to recover from. And that's one of one
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 8: of the things that took place. And yeah, you would
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 8: have thought that would have been a priority if you
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 8: took over, but apparently not.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: Well, it was after the fact created priority. Hey wait
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 2: a minute, that guy didn't speak French. That's rather snobbish,
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: isn't it. I don't speak a four leg. I tried
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 2: to learn a foreign language, Jay, but I failed miserably
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 2: a German in high school. In college, so here I am.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, and I learned that some of the easier classes
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 8: they said to take you still had to work at
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 8: so I didn't. Well, I had a surprisingly you know,
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 8: average scholastic career. That's why I tell people it was.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 8: It was very very average.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's aokay. You obviously know what you're doing
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 2: in your background has served you well in life, Jay,
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 2: And that's all that really matters is.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 8: Around six I graduated sixty second in my class, and
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 8: my dad said, at least more we're behind you than
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 8: in front of you. And that was about the only condolence, I.
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 2: Got there, you go, that's all right. We have what Africa.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 2: The control tower involved in this air Canada craft apparently
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: violated procedures. And because a lot of us out here
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 2: in the straight world don't understand aviation or issues like this,
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: why in the hell was a fire truck allowed to
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 2: go over the runway in the first place? The plane
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 2: was coming in but parallel this conflicting information going back
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 2: and forth. So what was violated in terms of procedures.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 8: One of the things that National Transportation Safety Board is
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 8: looking at is was the supervisor on duty in the
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 8: tower doing dual operations working with both ground equipment and
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 8: air aircraft, because that's a violation of the established protocol.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 8: So what they're trying to do and they're trying to
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 8: determine and trying to verify, is did this take place
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 8: and if so, to what extent? And that it gets
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 8: just part of the investigations. One of the things that
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 8: they're looking at, because they're far from the final report
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 8: that will take a year after the crash to really
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 8: come out with, But what they're saying is this is
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 8: something that we're looking into and exactly who's in the tower,
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 8: what the responsibilities were and other things. The National Transportation
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 8: Safety Board has in the past indicated how certain jobs
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 8: need to be singularly focused and not have one person
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 8: responsible for too many things. But the NTSB can only
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 8: make recommendations. It's like the DC crash that happened a
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 8: January a year ago, where we had the collision with
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 8: the helicopter in the American Airlines Regional jet. When the
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 8: final report came out from the NTSB here recently, they
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 8: gave fifty different recommendations based on their findings from that
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 8: that we could apply in procedures and policy moving forward
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 8: that would make commercial aviation safer. Now the FAA probably
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 8: won't implement five of those, but at least the NTSB
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 8: is always trying to say, what can we do to
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 8: make aviation safer? How can we learn from this? And
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 8: they're going to do the same thing with the Air
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 8: Canada crash. They're going to come out and say, look,
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 8: it's not a singular cause here. It's not a matter
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 8: of simply an air traffic controller making a mistake. It's
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 8: probably going to be multiple contributing causes, as most accidents
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 8: are that led to this disaster, and that's what we're
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 8: going to find out, and you know, as the investigation continues,
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 8: we'll see where it goes.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's the horror of what had to
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 2: be going through those late pilots' brains as they are,
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 2: you know, hurling headlong into that fire truck and with
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 2: no ability to pull out or otherwise prevent it from happening.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 2: I just I don't know that there's any blame that
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 2: could be placed in the lapse of the pilots. It
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 2: just doesn't seem to be possible for me, because they
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 2: were told to land right, they.
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 8: Were given clearance, they were following procedures when they broke
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 8: the low ceilings and rotated down as far as the
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 8: rare landing gear and then you rotate forward for the
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 8: forward landing gear to touch, and you've got all three
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 8: you know, gears, if you will, on the ground at once.
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 8: At that moment, you look up and you've got a
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 8: vehicle that's starting to encroach on the runway, and you know,
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 8: your mind is saying, we're cleared, they should be held,
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 8: but you know, you're just responding and reacting at that
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 8: point in time. And I think it was when it
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 8: was on the ground that the captain took over the controls.
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 8: It was his aircraft, because you always want the more
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 8: experienced pilot and handling an emergency, and obviously the identified
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 8: what it was. They did what they could, but they
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 8: just didn't have enough room. And you know, the one
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 8: thing about it is we will learn more as we
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 8: hear the details from the cockpit voice recorder as far
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 8: as any conversations or things that might have been ongoing
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 8: in those last few seconds. But they had so little
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 8: time to respond. The crew did everything that they could,
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 8: and again, the fire truck was given permission to cross,
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 8: so they were doing what they could. And it was
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 8: at an angle, so it wasn't like you're at a
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 8: four way stop. He just kind of glanced to your right.
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 8: It was at an angle where their nose of the
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 8: truck is apparently pointed away from the arriving aircraft. And
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 8: you've got all these lights around you that are very
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 8: bright at the runway, so it's not like it would
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 8: be so obvious that the plane is coming in. So
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 8: it's just a sad, sad situation that we, you know,
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 8: look at, and you just we need to learn from
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 8: it so that we can prevent it from ever happening again.
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 2: That's exactly what needs to be done. One more with
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 2: I ART Media aviation expert Jay Ratliff, maybe an illustration
• 2:03:10
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  Speaker 2: living and pivoting back to Jay Ratliffe real quick. I
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 2: think I know the answer and I'm going to say no.
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 2: But one of the listeners, Rick, wanted to know if
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 2: the ground equipment has a transponder like the aircraft.
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 8: They do not normally, even though airports have the technology
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 8: where that is possible. In fact, one of the things
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 8: that we'll see from the National Transportation Safety Board, I suspect,
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 8: because we've already conversations on this, is having transponders so
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 8: that the air traffic control tower can keep up with
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 8: where everybody's at it at all times, so we'll have
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 8: to wait and see exactly which way this goes. But
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 8: most airports or most ground vehicles do not, and I
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 8: think that we're moving in that direction very very quick.
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 2: Well, I can go out and get an Apple tag
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 2: and put it in a suitcase and figure out where
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 2: that thing is at any given moment in time. So
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 2: it seems to me it's easy and affordable technology. So
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 2: you just need someone DEMANDATA being put in place for
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 2: the benefit of all of us. I'm guessing anyway, you know, Jay,
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 2: I'm hoping that I will never run into a story
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 2: like this at some point in my life. This will
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 2: never happen again. Because I review this, these three women
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 2: who wouldn't pay their bag fees, and there had been
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 2: a melee as a reflection of societal decay, Jay, I would.
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 8: Agree, because you had these three women are on a
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 8: frontier flight in Miami. They're at the gate and they
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 8: have paid for their carry on bag, which you need
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 8: to do, but they had more than one, and the
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 8: gate agent did exactly what she's trained to do, saying, look,
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 8: we need to have you pay for these additional bags
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 8: and then we'll get you on the plane. Well, the
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 8: women didn't want to refuse, and then push their way
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 8: past the agent and board the airplane and flop down
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 8: in the seats as though possession is what ninety percent
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 8: of the law or something, because my butts in the seat.
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 8: I don't know how that's saying goes.
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 4: You would know.
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 8: But the frontier agent gets it, follows and says, look,
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 8: we need a have you pay for this, but b
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 8: if you're not, we need to get you off the plane.
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 8: And they said, no, we're not going to move. And
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 8: the agents and the flight attendants try to make it
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 8: clear to these three if you don't, we have to
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 8: involve law enforcement. We don't want to do that. Well,
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 8: they would not, budget law enforcement boards the plane. They
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 8: still won't leave. So that's when the police, knowing that
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 8: there might be a bit of a scene, oh yeah,
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 8: back off and everybody's off the plane takes everybody's getting
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 8: off the plane, while these three women are just sitting
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 8: there refusing to comply, and they kept saying they had
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 8: a boarding pass. And what the police and the agents
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 8: were saying is that has been voided. You no longer
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 8: have a boarding pass to be on this flight. You
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 8: are now trespassing. You're facing a line of charges here,
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 8: and again you're trying to avoid having this kind of
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 8: a situation take place, and you're trying to peel to
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 8: people's reasons reasoning, but nope, they weren't.
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 4: Budgeting, Brian.
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 8: So everybody had to get off that plane so that
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 8: police could in essence remove these individuals. That took some effort,
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 8: and you don't want that on video.
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 4: That's why you get everybody else the plane.
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 8: And the other thing is the people left and I
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 8: think the flight was delayed by an hour because of
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 8: the antics of these three women. Now not only was
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 8: that flight delayed, but it goes somewhere where another group
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 8: of people are waiting to catch the flight go somewhere,
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 8: so you could end up delaying something for an extended
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 8: period of time. And that's really unfortunate when that happens.
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 8: But that's exactly what took place here because of three
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 8: people that were just bound to determine and not to
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 8: pay that bag fee. And I guarantee you this, they
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 8: violated federal law by not responding to the instructions of
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 8: a uniform crew member. The FAA could send them and
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 8: may send them a fine for maybe ten thousand dollars apiece,
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 8: and then I wonder if they're thinking, Wow, maybe it
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 8: would have been a really good idea if we'd have
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 8: paid that bag fee.
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe for one of twenty five bucks. They're going
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 2: to find out themselves banned from airline flights. They're going
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 2: to find themselves facing a ten thousand dollars fine and
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 2: maybe even some sort of prosecution, because you know, this
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 2: is a federal issue. You never know, somebody's going.
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 8: To have to be an example and they'll be banned
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 8: from Frontier, but they won't be banned from other airlines,
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 8: even though they should be. Yeah, I think if you
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 8: act up like that, especially that kind of a situation,
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 8: you should be putting time out for like two years,
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 8: maybe three nothing, no lifetime ban, just something that sends
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 8: the message that here we go again on this topic.
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 8: There are consequences to your actions.
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, there are. And that video that's gone around
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 2: about their antics and how they behave didn't look well
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 2: for them. I mean, I don't think there's a human
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 2: being on the planet of the looks that goes. I
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 2: want to be that person.
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 4: So well, then you.
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 8: Wonder who they work for and things like that, and
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 8: that's when it spills into your private life and all
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 8: kind all kinds of bad things. Oh, this person works
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 8: for this company. Why I didn't know they employed those
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 8: kind of people.
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, there you go, and so it goes and finally,
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 2: don't do this. Vaping on a plane is ver boat
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  Speaker 2: and apparently it doesn't go well for you if you
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 2: ignore the law and the rules.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I had a Jet Blue flight that was coming in.
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  Speaker 8: Passenger was vaping. The alarm goes off and the captain
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  Speaker 8: they get him out of there, and the captain calls
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  Speaker 8: the ahead and asks for law enforcement to be standing by,
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  Speaker 8: and in the back and forth, the captain said, we
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  Speaker 8: just want somebody to talk to him, to talk to
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  Speaker 8: explain how serious it is. So that made me think
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  Speaker 8: that they're gonna kind of be a little bit okay
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  Speaker 8: and not be you know, and not gonna throw them
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  Speaker 8: in jail arresting those kinds of things. Just try to
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  Speaker 8: explain it, because if you scare people enough, they're gonna
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  Speaker 8: get they're gonna get it right. And a lot of
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  Speaker 8: times when you got a bunch of police officers that
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 8: you don't know if you're going to jail, be detained,
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  Speaker 8: whatever it might happen to be that is enough, and
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  Speaker 8: typically that's the case, and I think that's what they
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  Speaker 8: were trying to do here. But yeah, some people can't
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  Speaker 8: go X amount of minutes without baping, smoking, what have you,
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  Speaker 8: and you simply can't do it on a plane because,
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  Speaker 8: just like we talked about before, that's against the rules.
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  Speaker 8: That's a federal offense. You're endangering the lives of other people.
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  Speaker 8: Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, all of this right,
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  Speaker 8: and yeah, you could face a fine ten thousand dollars
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  Speaker 8: or more and face jail time.
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  Speaker 4: Please don't, Yeah, don't. Don't do things you're not supposed to.
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  Speaker 2: You can disagree with the rule or the law. You
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  Speaker 2: can think it's stupid, you can point out that it's
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  Speaker 2: not actually combustible and it really is fairly innocuous by
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 2: comparison to actual smoking. Nonetheless, that's the law. So suck
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  Speaker 2: it up and deal with it and don't break it,
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  Speaker 2: and you won't ruin everybody else's day. So we typically
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 2: end here. I heart mediaviation Expert JA RADLFF. How's it
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  Speaker 2: look out there for flying? Any help delays?
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  Speaker 8: Oh gosh, you know, normally we've got really good days, Brian,
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 8: We don't. I mean it's not a good day. Yeah,
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 8: Dallas and Houston issues, Minneapolis issues, weather problems for Chicago
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  Speaker 8: that are going to be We've already dealing with issues
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  Speaker 8: in New York later Boston. It's just going to be
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  Speaker 8: a day where we're going to have a challenging data fly.
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  Speaker 8: So take a lot of patience if you're headed to today's.
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  Speaker 2: Airports and call ahead find out if your flight is delayed.
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 2: Jay Rattler, thank you for your time each and every week,
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  Speaker 2: my friend, It's always a real pleasure for my listeners
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  Speaker 2: to me and again I'll behalf of my entire listening audience,
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 2: and Joe Strecker and my family to you. Have a wonderful,
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 2: wonderful Easter weekend.