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Keys to success in Week 15 | Jags Drive Time: Wednesday, December 14 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to James Drive with John Osan First and Bryan Sexton.
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Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome in a Jack's Drive Time. Brian
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Speaker 1: Sexton along with John Osier from t I A bank
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Speaker 1: Field in Jacksonville started the work week, so to speak.
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Speaker 1: Wednesday's the big day when the players returned, ready to
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Speaker 1: go and getting ready for the biggest game of the season,
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Speaker 1: obviously against the Dallas Cowboys. It was always gonna feel
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Speaker 1: that way, John Osier, because the Cowboys are the Cowboys.
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Speaker 1: But to be in this thing in December creates an
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Speaker 1: even stronger sense of what a meaningful game this one
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Speaker 1: is gonna be. Yeah, I mean, I don't know why
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Speaker 1: it wouldn't be the biggest feeling game since the Patriots
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Speaker 1: in eighteen. I would think that would be the vibe. Uh,
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Speaker 1: There's gonna be Dallas fans there because Dallas, no matter
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Speaker 1: what stadium you go into, when Dallas is there, there's
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Speaker 1: an element of their fans there but I think the
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Speaker 1: fans at ever bank or I'm sorry, I t I
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Speaker 1: bank Field, we'll be ready for this one. I think
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be electric and I'm looking forward to. All right,
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Speaker 1: let's get right into big things on a Wednesday, and
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Speaker 1: there are some big which will start with the most
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Speaker 1: wonderful time in five years. We go back to December
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Speaker 1: of two thousands. That's pretty good there. You know, when
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Speaker 1: you work with words, good words are your work. But
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Speaker 1: you get it. I mean, it's been a long time
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Speaker 1: since this team has played meaning full games in the
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Speaker 1: month of December, and the head coach didn't necessarily expect
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Speaker 1: that this first year on the job he would see this.
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Speaker 1: He's not exactly shying away from it either. You want
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Speaker 1: to be playing meaningful games, you know, in December and January,
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Speaker 1: and you know, the last two have been for us,
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Speaker 1: have been meaningful obviously with Baltimore Detroit, I should say
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Speaker 1: the last three Baltimore Detroit and then Tennessee and now
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Speaker 1: you know, moving forward, you know, we have the Cowboys
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Speaker 1: this week and and um, you know they're I believe
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Speaker 1: ten and three, and they're they're one of the top
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Speaker 1: teams in the NFC, and they're playing really you know,
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Speaker 1: really well and and coming off of you know, a
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Speaker 1: good win for them, you know, this weekend. So it's
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Speaker 1: a it's a great opportunity for our you know, for
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Speaker 1: our for our team to you know, I want our
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Speaker 1: guys to experience these these moments, you know, because we
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Speaker 1: hope one day that you know, if if things go well,
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Speaker 1: that we're playing and hopefully in the in the postseason
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Speaker 1: and all that. But these are moments that you want
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Speaker 1: to you want to be in and see where your
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Speaker 1: team actually is against really good, you know, really good opponents.
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Speaker 1: Grounded checks in his big thing Number two, The Jaguars
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Speaker 1: have not crossed the hundred yard rushing mark as a
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Speaker 1: team since they beat the Raiders here in Jacksonville in
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Speaker 1: the first Sunday of November. Dr Over the last four games,
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Speaker 1: they've averaged only sixty seven yards per game. Now, look,
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Speaker 1: we've talked that this is not going to be a
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Speaker 1: ground and pound kind of team like the Jaguars of
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Speaker 1: the old days, but the coach would like to see
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Speaker 1: something more than he's getting from the ground game today,
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Speaker 1: you know. Each week again, it's still kind of a
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Speaker 1: little bit of work in progress, you know, you try
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Speaker 1: to you try to do some things and obviously you
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Speaker 1: have enough in your your arsenal in the run game
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Speaker 1: to to make changes, right if you want to attack
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Speaker 1: the perimeter and that doesn't work and you work inside
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Speaker 1: and you do things that way, and um, but yeah,
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Speaker 1: you you'd love to see a little more production there
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Speaker 1: and and and get more out of it. But again,
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Speaker 1: when you look at the game yesterday and and um,
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Speaker 1: it just happened that throwing the ball was you know, um,
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Speaker 1: just as good, you know, uh, than than running and
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Speaker 1: big things rounds out with So what now what? I'm
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Speaker 1: still waiting for the T shirt this one, John? I mean,
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Speaker 1: I thought it was the quip of the year in
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Speaker 1: a news conference that Doug Peterson had early on when
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars were winning and you know, they lost in
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Speaker 1: Detroit and then they win in Tennessee and it makes
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Speaker 1: you wonder, Okay, what is this team? And the coach says,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to a gust Bradley is im
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Speaker 1: if those of you who were here remember, treat both
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Speaker 1: as impostors, adversity and prosperity. And that's kind of what
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Speaker 1: Doug was getting out on Monday when he talked about
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Speaker 1: getting his team focused on the Cowboys. You know, it's
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Speaker 1: a short term memory business. You know, it's a twenty
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Speaker 1: four hour rule. After a game, you know, you're you're
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Speaker 1: onto the next and you try to remember what you
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Speaker 1: did last week and build on it and and do
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Speaker 1: a little bit more this week and and then you
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Speaker 1: do more next week, and you know, whatever it is.
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Speaker 1: And and um, I thought, the guys really you know
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Speaker 1: now you know we also talked about that loss, how
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Speaker 1: that loss, you know, how it affects everybody. And you know, um,
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Speaker 1: guys have a lot of pride and they don't they
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Speaker 1: don't want to be remembered that way. And so they
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Speaker 1: really took it to heart, had a great week of preparation. Um,
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Speaker 1: and it paid off, right. Um, they went out and
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Speaker 1: they played well. It wasn't perfect, but played well and
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Speaker 1: got the win. And and so this week and I
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Speaker 1: almost have to like forget that, you know, just like
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Speaker 1: you would the film, right you just put it in
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Speaker 1: the trash can and light it on fire and forget it,
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Speaker 1: and uh and move on to you know, this week,
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Speaker 1: and there are big things. Hey, I was on the
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Speaker 1: I was I was on a podcast last night. Shout
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Speaker 1: out to Eric and King and Mike and the guys
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Speaker 1: that Deil Deal podcast. But they didn't realize this, So
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Speaker 1: I wonder if you do. Um, when was the last
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Speaker 1: time before two thousand and seventeen that the Jaguars played
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Speaker 1: a meaningful game this late in the season. Yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: you got it. Mostly they'll forget about that season. Yeah
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Speaker 1: and yeah, because they lost their last three and finished
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Speaker 1: eight and eight, and they don't think about it. But
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Speaker 1: the Jags right in five that year and went to
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Speaker 1: to Indy with a chance to to beat the Colts
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Speaker 1: and win the division, and they lost it in the
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Speaker 1: third quarter. Um So twice in the last twelve years
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars have played this. And it's exciting being around
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Speaker 1: town right now, John, honestly, because everyone is keyed into Sunday. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And I've gotten some emails this week because there's always
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Speaker 1: gonna be you know, people who say nay because we
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Speaker 1: discussed Monday. Um, well, they they're five and eight. The
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Speaker 1: division is bad, so that's why they're still in it.
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Speaker 1: You know, hold your horses and all that. I keep
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Speaker 1: going back to this, You can't control anything in this
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Speaker 1: league obviously, what other teams do? Uh, But Secondly, they've
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Speaker 1: if if you start at mid season, they've played their
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Speaker 1: way into this by beating two contenders. I mean they
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Speaker 1: beat the Ravens and the Titans, so uh, sure the record,
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Speaker 1: they would let the record to be better, and that
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Speaker 1: Doug would tell you there's three or four they left
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Speaker 1: on the table and all that. Okay, that's fine, whatever,
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Speaker 1: But since that Broncos game, which Doug Peterson on the
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Speaker 1: Rich Eyes and podcast was pretty good that he sees
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Speaker 1: that interception by Trevor in Denver as sort of the
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Speaker 1: point where it was wake up call, and he has
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Speaker 1: been lights out since then. So say you say, okay,
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Speaker 1: that's where the learning turned into performance three and two cents.
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Speaker 1: Then uh, laid an egg lost to maybe the best
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Speaker 1: team in the league, and beat a couple of contenders
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Speaker 1: and beat a Raiders team that played pretty well after
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Speaker 1: that game. From the mid season on, they're earning this
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Speaker 1: and uh you know it. It is fun. Don't worry
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Speaker 1: about the record. I don't think they're gonn the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: I think that's still a long shot. But what Doug
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Speaker 1: said in one of those clips, use this, get this experience,
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Speaker 1: figure out what it's all about. Because you're gonna be
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Speaker 1: here at some point and quickly, because Brian brought us
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Speaker 1: from one oh five three. The fan in Dallas is
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Speaker 1: going to join us via Skype here in the next
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Speaker 1: segment of our program. Um, Trevor Lawrence d eleven point
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Speaker 1: eight passer rating since the beginning of November, second best
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Speaker 1: in the league, which is since that Denver game, completions
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Speaker 1: which is the most in the league, ten touchdowns, no
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Speaker 1: interception ards. He's playing lights out. In fact, he's the
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Speaker 1: a f C Offensive Player of the Week that we've
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Speaker 1: just learned this morning. So congratulations to Trevor Lawrence. He's
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Speaker 1: playing at such a high level. Do you worry about
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Speaker 1: the fact that there is no ground game to speak
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Speaker 1: of over the last couple of weeks. You would like
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Speaker 1: more and and Doug would like more, But remember in
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Speaker 1: this offense. Look, I'm not saying they wouldn't like to
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Speaker 1: be running the ball better right now, but Doug also believe, Um,
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Speaker 1: if if you're effective throwing it, throw it, and the
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Speaker 1: thread of the run is as important in the modern
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Speaker 1: NFL is actually running. And it does feel still in
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Speaker 1: the last three or four weeks they're not running as effectively.
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Speaker 1: But the Titans clearly had an idea they were not
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Speaker 1: going to run the ball and win that game. So
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Speaker 1: if teams are taking it away, now you got a quarterback,
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Speaker 1: you can throw it um. You don't want to get
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Speaker 1: to a point where teams just know you can never
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Speaker 1: run any circumstance, because then it's it's a Katie bar
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Speaker 1: the door on the quarterback. I don't think there is
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Speaker 1: worried or panicky about the run game is maybe some
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Speaker 1: people in the media will be this week because I
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Speaker 1: think they sort of know what it is. Well. I
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Speaker 1: think it bears mentioning because the Cowboys have forty eight
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Speaker 1: sacks that they're just one off of the league lead
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Speaker 1: at this point forty eight sacks. So if you think
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Speaker 1: you're gonna protect your quarterback and have him drop back
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Speaker 1: and throw the ball forty one times again, you're going
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Speaker 1: for this or that, John II, this or that is uh?
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Speaker 1: Who will follow up last week's big game of the
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Speaker 1: big game Josh Allen or Trayvon Walker. And I mean,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it'll be Josh Allen. Um, but
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Speaker 1: I mainly picked this topic because Trayvon Walker. It appears
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Speaker 1: Uh well, he has an ankleandry and I don't know
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Speaker 1: what it appears, because Doug Peterson will address it probably
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Speaker 1: in about an hour at his news conference. But I
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Speaker 1: picked the topic because I think Josh Allen, uh, this
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Speaker 1: is the kind of game Brian where he could uh
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Speaker 1: get back to what he was. He had this game
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Speaker 1: against stuff Buffalo last year. They were remembers. We had
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Speaker 1: the sack, the fumble, the interception. Um, this is a
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Speaker 1: big game against mark team, and I just wonder if
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Speaker 1: maybe this, uh, this won't be a game where Josh
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Speaker 1: Allen again shows that he's not just the other Josh Allen.
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know obviously about the ankle and Trayvon,
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Speaker 1: but Josh Allen I've talked to a lot in the
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Speaker 1: locker room in this season, and I've noticed I don't
12:18
Speaker 1: want to say desperation because that that's the wrong term,
12:20
Speaker 1: but there's just this intensity about getting going again. And
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Speaker 1: it was almost relief in his eyes in the post
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Speaker 1: game in Nashville. Because this is a big season for him,
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Speaker 1: this is a proven moment for him, and so far
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Speaker 1: he hasn't gotten it done. So I'm gonna go with
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Um, you know, he came through in the
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Speaker 1: biggest of ways against the other Josh Allen last year
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Speaker 1: in a big game against the Buffalo Bills. And I
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Speaker 1: just get this sense their offensive line has some issues
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Speaker 1: and we'll talk with Brian brought us about that this
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Speaker 1: might be the day that he goes off. Yeah, I agree,
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Speaker 1: and I I don't think he has played overall as
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Speaker 1: poorly as maybe even he thinks, because he was so
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Speaker 1: juiced up to get sacks and have that m v
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Speaker 1: P type year And and that's tough for that can
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Speaker 1: be tough for a defensive end because it is such
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Speaker 1: a it is such a cruel position. Sometimes you can
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Speaker 1: play well not get sacks and everythinks he stink. It's
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Speaker 1: usually not the case. But I think Josh maybe a
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Speaker 1: little bit has pressed, has felt that a little bit,
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Speaker 1: and uh, he's frustrating with reason. But I don't know that.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't make him a bad player. It
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Speaker 1: just means he's having trouble getting those numbers and the
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Speaker 1: results that he wants. Well, what you said is absolutely
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Speaker 1: true about the pass rush not always getting home. And
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Speaker 1: that's something that Bill Shuey said to me last week
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Speaker 1: when I talked to him for pregame radio, and that is,
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Speaker 1: if you do everything right, there still is a circumstance.
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Speaker 1: There can the back end hold up for an extra
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Speaker 1: second to allow you to get there? Is there a
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Speaker 1: stunt that's being played, And does the guy who's running
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Speaker 1: the stunt with you go to the right gap? I mean,
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Speaker 1: there's all sorts of little things there. Once told me
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Speaker 1: he considered his best pass rushing year, and this was
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Speaker 1: probably oh eight, so he still had some years left.
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Speaker 1: But at the time he was in his seventh year,
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Speaker 1: had been to Pro Bowls. He considered his best pass
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Speaker 1: rushing year year he got four and f sacks because
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Speaker 1: the circumstances just didn't take date where he got home
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Speaker 1: absolutely getting there and getting home or two entirely different things. Alright,
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Speaker 1: time for mine. I'm gonna ask you this, John, which
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Speaker 1: one of these two players is the one who can
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Speaker 1: just kill the Jaguars playoff hopes. Not that this game
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Speaker 1: and a loss would absolutely kill the playoff pups, but
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Speaker 1: which one of these guys would put the needle in
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Speaker 1: the balloon fasts. Prescott obviously the quarterback of an offense
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Speaker 1: that scores twenty eight points a game and Parsons leads
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Speaker 1: the sack attack that has forty eight quarterback sacks this year. Um,
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Speaker 1: which one? It's tough. I'm gonna go with Parsons, Um
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Speaker 1: and Dak we gonna have a big game and prove
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Speaker 1: me wrong. He's ever so dangerous. But uh, I feel
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Speaker 1: like the defense feeds off Parsons. He's a guy who
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Speaker 1: can make play, sack fumble. A big play by Parsons
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Speaker 1: would feel like Dallas is it is doing what they
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Speaker 1: want and dominating. I think Cowboys are gonna make some
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Speaker 1: plays offensively, so Uh, Dak having a player two doesn't
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Speaker 1: worry as much as a defensive guy does it. It's
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Speaker 1: just dangerous and and Dak uh unlike some past years,
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Speaker 1: he's had some interceptions a little more than he does.
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Speaker 1: To me, that's the key. I think that Arys have
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Speaker 1: to take advantage of one of those opportunities that he
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Speaker 1: may give them. Well, I'm going with Parsons as well,
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Speaker 1: because he's got twelve sacks and he leads a barrage
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Speaker 1: of Dallas players who have more than five. Dante Polo Jr.
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Speaker 1: Is one of those as well. Um, you just you
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Speaker 1: see the pressure that he gets two quarterback hits thirteen
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Speaker 1: tackles behind the Lennis scrimmage. All due respect to Prescott
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Speaker 1: in the yard game winning drive that he workrustrated last
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Speaker 1: week against the Texans. Uh, this guy here, if he's
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Speaker 1: getting to the quarterback, bad things are happening in the
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Speaker 1: offenses in trouble, and we all know that the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: defense needs the offense putting up points and giving them
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Speaker 1: better opportunities. So I'll go with Micah Parsons being the
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Speaker 1: guy that can create the most havoc. All right, Jaguars
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Speaker 1: brought us from one oh five three the Fan in Dallas. Uh, bro,
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Speaker 1: good morning, I'm going to I'm gonna beat you up,
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Speaker 1: don't say any thing. Brian won a Super Bowl with
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Speaker 1: the Packers in their scouting department, then came here for
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Speaker 1: a season before going on to Dallas and next to
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Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin, Nobody was his patient with a young broadcaster,
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Speaker 1: and he used to let me sit in his office
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Speaker 1: and watch tape deep into the night, way before I
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Speaker 1: had kids. Um, nobody understands the game and can explain
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Speaker 1: it as well from a media perspective, at least to
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Speaker 1: my way of thinking. As you, how are you, my friend?
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Speaker 1: I'm doing well. Let me return the praises. Uh. Nobody
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Speaker 1: taught me how to eat crab legs faster than you
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Speaker 1: did when we used to go out and uh and
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Speaker 1: hang out at the you know out there and at
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Speaker 1: the various places that we used to go. But I
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Speaker 1: always enjoyed being with you. I love the fact that
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Speaker 1: you were so interested in the game and wanted to
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Speaker 1: learn so much about the game, So you know, it
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Speaker 1: was it was my pleasure for sure. Well, let's dive
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Speaker 1: right into it, my friend. Uh, and we'll start with
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Speaker 1: this Micah Parsons. You heard our last segment. I think
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Speaker 1: he is the best player on the Cowboys. Agree or
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Speaker 1: disagree on on a on a star studded roster, He's
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Speaker 1: the guy that makes it go. Oh absolutely. You know,
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Speaker 1: there was there was a time where we always were
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Speaker 1: talking about Tyrnn Smith and then Zack Martin came along.
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Speaker 1: There was a time with Ezekiel Elliott. You know that
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Speaker 1: you might have thrown him in, But this organization caught
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Speaker 1: a huge break with Michael Parsons. You know when we
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Speaker 1: were evaluating him coming out of Penn State, you know,
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Speaker 1: the COVID year not playing and all that, and you
18:32
Speaker 1: really were in one of those modes where you were
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Speaker 1: trying to figure out, you know, wow, this is an
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Speaker 1: off ball linebacker that traded back. They were able to
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Speaker 1: grab him, but it took an injury to the Marcus
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Speaker 1: Lawrence and for him to kind of get the recognition.
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Speaker 1: Dan Quinn in week two said, listen, we need a
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Speaker 1: pass rusher against the Chargers. And now Michael Parsons became
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Speaker 1: that guy. And then you started to see the power,
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Speaker 1: the explore ooseiffness, the quickness. You know, he had a
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Speaker 1: real feel for how to do it, and you know,
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Speaker 1: it just really kind of blossom from that time that
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Speaker 1: dan Quinn has moved him around and uh and and
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Speaker 1: and really played to his strengths. And it was really
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Speaker 1: funny because evaluating at Penn State, I would challenge anybody
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Speaker 1: to to find the film of him as a uh
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Speaker 1: really like a defensive end pass rusher. I mean, he
19:25
Speaker 1: was a damn good linebacker, but you know, the pass
19:28
Speaker 1: rush stuff was something that really the Cowboys did a
19:31
Speaker 1: good job of getting that out of him. Uh, Brian,
19:35
Speaker 1: take me through the Cowboys offense. Good to talk to him,
19:38
Speaker 1: by the way, I remember from the nineties we talked
19:41
Speaker 1: a little bit. Always enjoyed you. Um. Offensively, you know,
19:47
Speaker 1: this team overall and offensively they look so dominant in
19:51
Speaker 1: terms of talent, but offensively, if they have an achilles heel,
19:55
Speaker 1: if teams get them, where do they get the Cowboys?
19:58
Speaker 1: If you follow me, well, John, it's it's really teams
20:03
Speaker 1: have kind of figured out. And last week the Texans
20:06
Speaker 1: did something that teams have been doing last year to
20:11
Speaker 1: this offense, and that was playing a lot of Cover
20:13
Speaker 1: two with those two uh safeties off the hash and
20:18
Speaker 1: so teams that have blitzed dark Prescott have kind of
20:23
Speaker 1: learned that that's probably not the best way to go.
20:26
Speaker 1: He's good at handling the blitz. He's good at getting
20:28
Speaker 1: rid of the ball. But teams that played what we
20:32
Speaker 1: call clog and cover with that too deep look. You know,
20:36
Speaker 1: they rushed forward drop seven and they make him have
20:39
Speaker 1: to read the field, and they just didn't do a
20:42
Speaker 1: very good job last week until the final drive. Levy
20:46
Speaker 1: Smith really the majority of the game played that cover
20:48
Speaker 1: two look, and it really does affect dark Prescott because
20:53
Speaker 1: you know he's struggling, as you guys mentioned with the interceptions. Uh,
20:57
Speaker 1: he's you know, he struggles at time finding those open
21:01
Speaker 1: receivers and you know, they just they just haven't been
21:05
Speaker 1: able to get open. So I wouldn't be surprised at
21:08
Speaker 1: all of going forward when you play the Cowboys that
21:11
Speaker 1: maybe you know that we see other teams say, wow,
21:13
Speaker 1: the you know, the Denver Broncos last year had a
21:16
Speaker 1: plan for how to play and teams took advantage of that.
21:19
Speaker 1: Went away from that, and then we saw it again
21:22
Speaker 1: because Lovey Smith being a big two deep guy, you know,
21:27
Speaker 1: it kind of came back and it looked like that,
21:29
Speaker 1: you know, did Doc had problems again until that final
21:32
Speaker 1: drive kind of picking that thing apart. Brian, We've seen
21:36
Speaker 1: some good one two running back tandems in Jacksonville James
21:40
Speaker 1: Stewart and Fred Taylor as you'll remember, Uh, Fred Taylor
21:44
Speaker 1: and Maurice Jones Drew. Give me your sense of this
21:47
Speaker 1: group with Pollard and Elliott averaging a hundred and forty
21:50
Speaker 1: five rushing yards a game. Uh, you know, both those
21:53
Speaker 1: guys are approaching a thousand yards and wouldn't be surprised
21:56
Speaker 1: at all to see both of them get there, which
21:58
Speaker 1: is an amazing feat. Has only happened I think four
22:00
Speaker 1: times in the modern era of professional football. Um, they're
22:05
Speaker 1: the engine, right, Oh, no, there, yeah, it's it's funny.
22:09
Speaker 1: I got in trouble with Jerry Jones during training camp
22:12
Speaker 1: because I asked him, I go, do you feel like
22:14
Speaker 1: you wasted Tony Pollard's career? You know, I mean he's
22:17
Speaker 1: in his last year of his uh his deal here
22:20
Speaker 1: in Dallas, and uh, you know, they finally figured out
22:23
Speaker 1: how to play. And it used to be that Elliott
22:26
Speaker 1: would play, you know, the first two or three series,
22:29
Speaker 1: and then Pollard would come in for one series and
22:31
Speaker 1: then you wouldn't see him again. But now you've got
22:34
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard where he's finishing games and that's something that
22:38
Speaker 1: you know, they hadn't done before. So you know, you
22:40
Speaker 1: get into the four minute drive and then all of
22:42
Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, Tony Pollard's on the field running
22:45
Speaker 1: the football, and there's just been uh, you know, they
22:48
Speaker 1: finally I could say the balance there has been really
22:51
Speaker 1: really good between the two, and the coaches have figured out,
22:55
Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't matter if one gets I mean,
22:57
Speaker 1: we had a game the other day where Pollard actually
22:59
Speaker 1: had more carries than Elliott and I can't ever remember
23:03
Speaker 1: that ever happening here. So they've you know, it's it's
23:07
Speaker 1: it's they They've got that, They've got that with that
23:09
Speaker 1: that one to punch, and they will also put them
23:11
Speaker 1: on the field together at the same time. You get
23:13
Speaker 1: down in the red zone, you'll see them use Pollard
23:16
Speaker 1: as like a wing or a receiver or slot and
23:20
Speaker 1: and run plays off that with both those guys being
23:23
Speaker 1: on the field. So it's really really helped the offense.
23:26
Speaker 1: The balance this this this team is you know, it
23:29
Speaker 1: struggles when Dak Prescott throws the ball more than forty times.
23:33
Speaker 1: That's been a big issue here and so you know
23:35
Speaker 1: it's the running game has given them that that balance
23:38
Speaker 1: that you know, and not fifty fifty split, but it's
23:41
Speaker 1: taken some of the pressure off Doc having to throw
23:44
Speaker 1: the ball. Brian, what's different about this version of the Cowboy?
23:48
Speaker 1: I mean, there's been so much talk over twenty five
23:51
Speaker 1: years that they haven't made a Super Bowl. A lot
23:54
Speaker 1: of talented teams. I look at this Dallas team and
23:57
Speaker 1: I can envision it holding up the trophy. Uh, what's
24:00
Speaker 1: different about it that they might enable them to do that?
24:05
Speaker 1: I think, John, it's gonna be about the defense here,
24:08
Speaker 1: I really do. You know. Now, they've got some issues
24:11
Speaker 1: at corner They've got to figure out what they're gonna
24:14
Speaker 1: do opposite digs, you know, and you know with with
24:18
Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph playing Duran Bland, they're trying to figure out
24:22
Speaker 1: some things. This team has lost two of the starting
24:26
Speaker 1: three cornerbacks this year, and so they're trying to replace that.
24:30
Speaker 1: You know. The thing is they've gotten better playing run defense.
24:33
Speaker 1: It'll be a challenge again this week form, but there
24:37
Speaker 1: was some real problems early in the season with perimeter
24:40
Speaker 1: runs and they've kind of shored that up. Losing Jonathan
24:44
Speaker 1: Hankins will hurt them a little bit. Inside. He's done
24:47
Speaker 1: a really, really nice job. But if they're gonna win
24:50
Speaker 1: this thing. It's gonna be about the defense. It's gonna
24:52
Speaker 1: be about them because they're gonna play They're gonna play
24:55
Speaker 1: some teams that are are you know, in the playoffs potentially,
24:59
Speaker 1: you know, the Four, the Niners, you know, super physical
25:02
Speaker 1: team that was a problem for them last year. So
25:04
Speaker 1: you know, they have to be they have to be
25:06
Speaker 1: tougher than they were, and I think this defense has
25:09
Speaker 1: shown that they can be tougher. And you know, their
25:12
Speaker 1: ability to rush the passer is really unmatched in the league.
25:16
Speaker 1: You know, if they get you and make you one dimensional,
25:19
Speaker 1: they they they find ways to cause problems. And I
25:23
Speaker 1: think that's something. You know, if as long as they
25:25
Speaker 1: could choke that run, then they're going to find a
25:27
Speaker 1: way to rush the pass. And I think that's the
25:29
Speaker 1: that's the ticket for them potentially, you know, winning that
25:33
Speaker 1: winning that super Bowl you're talking about. All right, two
25:36
Speaker 1: quick questions for you, As I mentioned off the top,
25:38
Speaker 1: nobody watches film like you do, so your impressions of
25:41
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence the last month, because I know you spent
25:43
Speaker 1: time looking at the table. Yeah I did, and uh,
25:46
Speaker 1: you know what, I'll tell you what though, I really
25:48
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm a big fan of Doug Peterson. I
25:51
Speaker 1: go all the way back. Doug and I actually really
25:54
Speaker 1: really close, and you know, he was with us in
25:56
Speaker 1: Green Bay when we won the Super Bowl, and I
25:59
Speaker 1: share great worries with him. And every time that you
26:01
Speaker 1: guys win a cinema text and say congratulations and he
26:05
Speaker 1: gets back with me. I really that's what he needed,
26:08
Speaker 1: you know, That's what Trevor Lawrence needed. He needed some stability,
26:12
Speaker 1: you know, with his with his play caller, with the
26:15
Speaker 1: way he was being coached. Uh you know, I mean
26:17
Speaker 1: you could see the talent. I mean just go back
26:20
Speaker 1: and watch him play. And you know, the thing I
26:22
Speaker 1: was worried about was just the revolving door, the different
26:26
Speaker 1: things that were going on. You know, you didn't want
26:28
Speaker 1: the kid to be ruined. But I'll tell you what, man,
26:31
Speaker 1: his ability to move around in the pocket, his ability
26:33
Speaker 1: to deliver the football, you know, the weapons, the movement
26:37
Speaker 1: that you guys have, the you know, the ability to run,
26:41
Speaker 1: and I just I really do think that it's the
26:43
Speaker 1: best fit for him to have a guy like Doug Peterson,
26:47
Speaker 1: you know, helping him along and developing him. Because you
26:50
Speaker 1: could see it in the way he plays, you really
26:53
Speaker 1: really can and so I'm impressed. I think this is
26:56
Speaker 1: going to be a very difficult game for Dallas to win,
26:59
Speaker 1: believe it or not. And I I just kind of
27:01
Speaker 1: feel like that Jacksonville is on a little bit of
27:03
Speaker 1: a role defensively. And then but you know, with the
27:06
Speaker 1: where the quarterbacks playing, you know that this is this
27:09
Speaker 1: will be a tough, tough test for the Cowboys. And
27:11
Speaker 1: final thought, look, you came to Jacksonville from green Bay,
27:14
Speaker 1: so from one small market to the other. And then
27:15
Speaker 1: of course you went to Dallas, which is America's team
27:18
Speaker 1: and everyone knows that whole story. Um, but you've been
27:21
Speaker 1: one of the biggest proponents of Jacksonville is an NFL market.
27:24
Speaker 1: I mean, you and I've talked about this over over
27:26
Speaker 1: twenty six years. Would you just share your thoughts with
27:29
Speaker 1: our our viewing audience as someone from the biggest of
27:32
Speaker 1: markets and what you think of Jacksonville is in NFL town.
27:36
Speaker 1: First off, round, I loved living in Jacksonville, I really did.
27:39
Speaker 1: I I thought, you know, I grew up in Dallas, Texas,
27:42
Speaker 1: Like you mentioned green Bay, Philadelphia, you know some big places,
27:45
Speaker 1: you know, with Philadelphia and Dallas, of course, but yeah,
27:48
Speaker 1: I mean the smallest market there in Green Bay. You know,
27:52
Speaker 1: that was that was a great experience for me. It
27:54
Speaker 1: was all about football, and you know, it wasn't about
27:57
Speaker 1: being you know you you know, there wasn't is glamorous
28:01
Speaker 1: thing about it at all. It was just really about football.
28:03
Speaker 1: And that's what I really appreciate it. What I appreciate
28:06
Speaker 1: it is going to school at l s U and
28:08
Speaker 1: then having the appreciation of having to deal with, you know,
28:11
Speaker 1: the Florida Gator fans and stuff like that, and making
28:14
Speaker 1: those trips from Baton Rouge to Gainsville and stuff. That
28:18
Speaker 1: part of the country loves football, very knowledgeable football fans.
28:23
Speaker 1: I've always been super impressed by the passion that they
28:26
Speaker 1: have for the game and the love of the game.
28:28
Speaker 1: All I think they've ever wanted was to be able
28:32
Speaker 1: to back a team that that's a winner. And I
28:34
Speaker 1: think they've got the stability now. Again, I talked about
28:37
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, you know, I think that I think Jacksonville
28:41
Speaker 1: is on the way of building something. I that Urban
28:43
Speaker 1: Meyer thing, and I'm gonna be the first one to
28:46
Speaker 1: admit I was completely wrong about Urban Meyer because I've
28:48
Speaker 1: seen the different programs that he was able to build.
28:51
Speaker 1: So I was completely wrong myself as a as a guy,
28:54
Speaker 1: a former football guy. But the fans in Jacksonville deserve
28:59
Speaker 1: deserve more. They deserve to have a winner, you know,
29:01
Speaker 1: because again, those fans are super fans. They were they
29:04
Speaker 1: were great to me when I was there. We had
29:06
Speaker 1: good football teams too, you know that that was something
29:09
Speaker 1: that was always, you know, important. But I just I
29:12
Speaker 1: think ownership there. I think that the coach there, the
29:16
Speaker 1: front office. You know, we'll see how that all plays out.
29:19
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm a big fan of the Jacksonville Jaguars,
29:22
Speaker 1: and I'm a fan of their of their fans as well,
29:24
Speaker 1: because I think they they're really really passionate and they
29:27
Speaker 1: love the game. A lot of people have heard me
29:29
Speaker 1: or others say that Jacksonville could be the Green Bay
29:31
Speaker 1: of the South. Brian brought Us was the first person
29:33
Speaker 1: to coin that phrase. To me. If I don't connect
29:36
Speaker 1: with you, Merry Christmas, and thank you so much for
29:38
Speaker 1: your time, and you're inside on the Cowboys. We're looking
29:41
Speaker 1: forward to a big game on Sunday. Well, thank you guys,
29:43
Speaker 1: appreciate it and take care of my guys down there.
29:46
Speaker 1: Don't beat up on them too bad or anything like that.
29:48
Speaker 1: You guys are a little bit of a role I hey,
29:50
Speaker 1: I watched the Lions game. I get it, but that
29:52
Speaker 1: that teams go in the right direction. There. You know
29:54
Speaker 1: it'll be It'll be fine again, trust me. But thank you.
29:57
Speaker 1: Happy holidays you guys as well. At a long time
29:59
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30:36
Speaker 1: Peterson talked on Monday about how takeaways were the driving
30:40
Speaker 1: factor in success. Right. That's the thing. I think that
30:43
Speaker 1: when you look at the Jaguars and the ability to
30:46
Speaker 1: beat the Cowboys on Sunday, they gotta keep taking the
30:48
Speaker 1: ball away. Yeah, I mean, this is not a great defense,
30:54
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's going to be yet. It's
30:56
Speaker 1: not there yet, personnel wies and I say that, I
30:59
Speaker 1: mean they're not going to shut you down. They're not
31:01
Speaker 1: gonna be at the top of the league standings. But
31:03
Speaker 1: they have been very, very good at times taking the
31:05
Speaker 1: ball away. And when they've been good at times, uh
31:08
Speaker 1: in that area, that is when they have felt like
31:12
Speaker 1: a very very good defense. Early in the season, you
31:15
Speaker 1: feel like they were on a roll with it. They
31:16
Speaker 1: got four last week. They got some breaks with it. UH.
31:19
Speaker 1: To me, for this team, turnovers are all about taking
31:23
Speaker 1: advantage of the opportunity. They're gonna be there. There's probably
31:25
Speaker 1: gonna be a ball in the ground. There's gonna be
31:26
Speaker 1: a ball in the air that you can get. If
31:29
Speaker 1: you see them pounding their fists on the ground after
31:33
Speaker 1: not getting one, I think they're in trouble. I think
31:35
Speaker 1: they have to take advantage of the opportunities when they're there.
31:37
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