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- 0:00Doug
- 0:00McMillan
- 0:01is
- 0:01retiring
- 0:02and
- 0:02he's
- 0:02turning
- 0:03over
- 0:03the
- 0:03reins
- 0:04to
- 0:04your
- 0:05man
- 0:05crush,
- 0:06John
- 0:06Furner
- 0:07this
- 0:07upcoming
- 0:08February.
- 0:09According
- 0:09to
- 0:09the
- 0:10Wall
- 0:10street
- 0:10journal,
- 0:10under
- 0:11McMillan's
- 0:11tenure,
- 0:12Walmart
- 0:12shares
- 0:12have
- 0:13risen
- 0:13more
- 0:13than
- 0:13400%
- 0:15on
- 0:15a
- 0:15total
- 0:15return
- 0:16basis
- 0:16and
- 0:17the
- 0:17company
- 0:17has
- 0:18gained
- 0:18$576
- 0:20billion
- 0:21in
- 0:21market
- 0:21capitalization.
- 0:22It
- 0:23has
- 0:23also
- 0:23grown
- 0:24to
- 0:24more
- 0:24than
- 0:24$680
- 0:25billion
- 0:26in
- 0:27annual
- 0:27revenue.
- 0:28Meanwhile,
- 0:29McMillan
- 0:30successor
- 0:30John
- 0:31Furner
- 0:31has
- 0:31served
- 0:32as
- 0:32CEO
- 0:32of
- 0:32Walmart
- 0:33US
- 0:33since
- 0:332019,
- 0:34overseeing
- 0:35the
- 0:35company's
- 0:36largest
- 0:36operating
- 0:37segment
- 0:37and
- 0:37more
- 0:37than
- 0:374,600
- 0:38stores.
- 0:39John
- 0:39Furner
- 0:40grew
- 0:40up
- 0:40in
- 0:40Arkansas
- 0:41and
- 0:41his
- 0:41first
- 0:41job
- 0:42with
- 0:42Walmart
- 0:42was
- 0:43a
- 0:43part
- 0:43time
- 0:43role
- 0:43in
- 0:43a
- 0:44local
- 0:44store
- 0:44in
- 0:451993.
- 0:46He
- 0:46has
- 0:46held
- 0:46leadership
- 0:47roles
- 0:47across
- 0:48merchandising
- 0:48operations
- 0:49and
- 0:49sourcing
- 0:50internationally,
- 0:50as
- 0:51well
- 0:51as
- 0:51Walmart's
- 0:51warehouse
- 0:52chain,
- 0:52Sam's
- 0:53Club.
- 0:53Chris,
- 0:54I
- 0:54know
- 0:54you're
- 0:54going
- 0:54to
- 0:55have
- 0:55a
- 0:55lot
- 0:55of
- 0:55these,
- 0:55so
- 0:56let's
- 0:56begin
- 0:57with
- 0:57your
- 0:57thoughts
- 0:57on
- 0:58Doug
- 0:58McMillan
- 0:59as
- 0:59well
- 0:59as
- 0:59his
- 1:00successor,
- 1:00John
- 1:01Furner.
- 1:01And
- 1:01we
- 1:01are
- 1:02putting
- 1:02a
- 1:02timer
- 1:02on
- 1:02you
- 1:03for
- 1:03the.
- 1:03John,
- 1:03are
- 1:04you
- 1:05okay?
- 1:05Okay.
- 1:05All
- 1:06right.
- 1:06All
- 1:06right,
- 1:06well,
- 1:06I'll
- 1:06take
- 1:06Doug
- 1:07first
- 1:07and
- 1:07I'm
- 1:07going
- 1:07to
- 1:08share
- 1:08a
- 1:08couple
- 1:08anecdotes
- 1:09about
- 1:09both
- 1:09of
- 1:09them
- 1:09because
- 1:09I
- 1:09think
- 1:10there's
- 1:10some
- 1:10personal
- 1:10things
- 1:10that
- 1:10I
- 1:11want
- 1:11to
- 1:11get
- 1:11into
- 1:11here.
- 1:11But
- 1:12so
- 1:12first,
- 1:12Doug,
- 1:14I
- 1:14don't
- 1:14know
- 1:14if
- 1:14I've
- 1:14ever
- 1:14shared
- 1:15this
- 1:15story
- 1:15on
- 1:15the
- 1:15podcast.
- 1:16I
- 1:16think,
- 1:16Ann,
- 1:16you've
- 1:16heard
- 1:16it
- 1:17before.
- 1:17But
- 1:17the
- 1:18single
- 1:18greatest
- 1:18compliment
- 1:19I
- 1:19ever
- 1:20received
- 1:20is
- 1:21in
- 1:21my,
- 1:21probably
- 1:21in
- 1:21my
- 1:22life,
- 1:22in
- 1:22my,
- 1:22at
- 1:22least
- 1:23in
- 1:23my
- 1:23professional
- 1:23career,
- 1:24was
- 1:25back
- 1:25in,
- 1:25it
- 1:25was
- 1:25like
- 1:252000,
- 1:26late
- 1:262009,
- 1:27early
- 1:272010,
- 1:28I
- 1:28was
- 1:28in
- 1:28Boston,
- 1:29I
- 1:29was
- 1:29out,
- 1:30I
- 1:30was
- 1:30running
- 1:31baby
- 1:31for
- 1:31Target
- 1:32at
- 1:32the
- 1:32time.
- 1:33And
- 1:33I
- 1:34was
- 1:34out
- 1:34with
- 1:34the
- 1:34Dorel
- 1:35Juvenile
- 1:35Group
- 1:35and
- 1:36a
- 1:36guy
- 1:36named
- 1:36Ted
- 1:36Kelly
- 1:37was
- 1:37there.
- 1:37He
- 1:37was,
- 1:37he
- 1:38was
- 1:38part
- 1:38of
- 1:38their
- 1:38team.
- 1:39And
- 1:39he
- 1:39said
- 1:39to
- 1:40me,
- 1:40he
- 1:40said,
- 1:40God,
- 1:40Chris,
- 1:40you
- 1:40remind
- 1:41me
- 1:41of
- 1:41Doug
- 1:41McMillan.
- 1:42And
- 1:42at
- 1:42the
- 1:43time,
- 1:43like,
- 1:43I
- 1:44didn't
- 1:44know
- 1:44who
- 1:44Doug
- 1:44McMillan
- 1:45was.
- 1:46You
- 1:46know,
- 1:46I
- 1:46had
- 1:46heard
- 1:47him
- 1:47a
- 1:47little
- 1:47bit.
- 1:47He
- 1:47was
- 1:47like,
- 1:48I
- 1:48think
- 1:48CEO
- 1:48of
- 1:48Walmart
- 1:49International.
- 1:49He
- 1:49wasn't
- 1:49CEO
- 1:50yet.
- 1:50And
- 1:51then
- 1:51a
- 1:51few
- 1:51years
- 1:51later,
- 1:51he
- 1:51gets
- 1:52named
- 1:52CEO.
- 1:52And,
- 1:53and
- 1:53for
- 1:54that
- 1:54reason,
- 1:54like,
- 1:55I
- 1:55am
- 1:55absolutely
- 1:56humbled
- 1:56by
- 1:56what
- 1:56Ted
- 1:57Kelly
- 1:57said
- 1:57to
- 1:57me
- 1:57that
- 1:58day
- 1:58because
- 1:58there
- 1:59is
- 1:59no
- 1:59way
- 1:59I
- 2:00hold
- 2:00a
- 2:00candle
- 2:00to
- 2:01Doug
- 2:01McMillan,
- 2:01because
- 2:02Doug
- 2:02McMillan,
- 2:02in
- 2:03my
- 2:03opinion,
- 2:03and
- 2:04is
- 2:04going
- 2:04to
- 2:04go
- 2:05down
- 2:05as
- 2:05the
- 2:05second
- 2:06greatest
- 2:06CEO
- 2:07in
- 2:07the
- 2:07history
- 2:07of
- 2:07Walmart.
- 2:08And
- 2:08when
- 2:08the
- 2:08first,
- 2:09the
- 2:09person
- 2:10at
- 2:10the
- 2:10top
- 2:10of
- 2:10that
- 2:10list
- 2:11is
- 2:11the
- 2:11founder
- 2:11Sam
- 2:12Walton,
- 2:12that's,
- 2:13that's
- 2:13saying
- 2:13something.
- 2:14Right.
- 2:14Like,
- 2:14he's
- 2:15hard.
- 2:15He's
- 2:15hard
- 2:15to,
- 2:16you
- 2:16know,
- 2:16you
- 2:16know,
- 2:16to
- 2:16get
- 2:16in
- 2:16front
- 2:17of.
- 2:17So,
- 2:17so
- 2:17that's
- 2:18my
- 2:18thoughts
- 2:18on
- 2:18Doug.
- 2:18Doug
- 2:19is
- 2:19just
- 2:19done
- 2:20an
- 2:20amazing,
- 2:20amazing
- 2:21job
- 2:21and
- 2:22he's
- 2:22going
- 2:22to
- 2:22be
- 2:22a
- 2:23retail
- 2:23icon
- 2:23forever.
- 2:24And
- 2:24he's
- 2:25going
- 2:25out
- 2:25on
- 2:25top.
- 2:26Now.
- 2:27John
- 2:27Furner,
- 2:28you
- 2:28mentioned
- 2:28it.
- 2:28Man
- 2:29crush.
- 2:29He's
- 2:30my
- 2:30single
- 2:30favorite
- 2:31person
- 2:31in
- 2:31retail.
- 2:32We've
- 2:32interviewed
- 2:33him
- 2:33a
- 2:33few
- 2:33times.
- 2:33But
- 2:34my
- 2:34favorite
- 2:34anecdote
- 2:35about
- 2:35him
- 2:35is
- 2:36I
- 2:36wrote
- 2:36an
- 2:36article
- 2:38describing
- 2:38Sam's
- 2:39Club
- 2:39strategy
- 2:39back
- 2:40in
- 2:40like
- 2:402019
- 2:41for
- 2:41Forbes
- 2:42and
- 2:42what
- 2:42I
- 2:42liked
- 2:42about
- 2:42it.
- 2:43And
- 2:43it
- 2:43was
- 2:43like,
- 2:43right
- 2:43in
- 2:44advance,
- 2:44a
- 2:44grocery
- 2:44shop.
- 2:45And
- 2:45all
- 2:45of
- 2:45a
- 2:45sudden
- 2:45I
- 2:45get
- 2:45this
- 2:46email
- 2:46out
- 2:46of
- 2:46the
- 2:46blue
- 2:47saying,
- 2:47hey,
- 2:48Chris,
- 2:48John
- 2:48Furner
- 2:49would
- 2:49like
- 2:49to
- 2:49meet
- 2:50you
- 2:50and
- 2:50talk
- 2:50to
- 2:51you
- 2:51at
- 2:51grocery
- 2:51shop.
- 2:51And
- 2:52no
- 2:52one
- 2:52has
- 2:53ever
- 2:53done
- 2:53that
- 2:53since.
- 2:54Like,
- 2:54in
- 2:54that
- 2:54way,
- 2:55he's
- 2:55the
- 2:55only
- 2:55person
- 2:56that's
- 2:56done
- 2:56that.
- 2:56And
- 2:56I
- 2:56sat
- 2:57down
- 2:57with
- 2:57him
- 2:57at
- 2:57that
- 2:58show
- 2:58for
- 2:5845
- 2:58minutes,
- 2:59you
- 2:59and
- 2:59I
- 2:59both
- 2:59did.
- 3:00And
- 3:00we
- 3:00just
- 3:01rapped
- 3:01with
- 3:01him
- 3:01about
- 3:01retail
- 3:02and
- 3:02got
- 3:02a
- 3:02sense
- 3:02of
- 3:02how
- 3:03he's
- 3:03thinking
- 3:03about
- 3:03the
- 3:03future.
- 3:04And
- 3:04this
- 3:04was
- 3:05back
- 3:05in
- 3:052019,
- 3:06almost
- 3:07six,
- 3:07almost
- 3:08six
- 3:08years
- 3:09ago.
- 3:09And
- 3:09to
- 3:10see
- 3:10it
- 3:10play
- 3:10out
- 3:10exactly
- 3:11as
- 3:11he
- 3:11was
- 3:12talking
- 3:12about
- 3:13shows
- 3:13me
- 3:13that
- 3:14he
- 3:14has
- 3:14a
- 3:14strategic
- 3:15understanding
- 3:16of
- 3:16where
- 3:16retail
- 3:17is
- 3:17going.
- 3:17And
- 3:17he
- 3:18is
- 3:18the
- 3:18right
- 3:18man
- 3:18for
- 3:19the
- 3:19job,
- 3:19particularly
- 3:19when
- 3:19you
- 3:19look
- 3:20at
- 3:20what
- 3:20he's
- 3:20done
- 3:21on
- 3:21the
- 3:21US
- 3:21side,
- 3:22the
- 3:22business
- 3:22too.
- 3:23So,
- 3:23so
- 3:23kudos
- 3:24to
- 3:24him.
- 3:25He
- 3:25was
- 3:25the
- 3:25architect
- 3:26of
- 3:26Sam's
- 3:26Club
- 3:27success.
- 3:27He's
- 3:28been
- 3:28the
- 3:28architect
- 3:28of
- 3:29Walmart's
- 3:29US's
- 3:30recent
- 3:30success.
- 3:30And
- 3:31so
- 3:31the
- 3:32only
- 3:32thing
- 3:32I
- 3:32can
- 3:32say
- 3:32to
- 3:32him
- 3:33is,
- 3:33John,
- 3:34John,
- 3:34please
- 3:34don't
- 3:34screw
- 3:35it
- 3:35up.
- 3:35Because
- 3:35then
- 3:35I
- 3:35got
- 3:35to
- 3:35start
- 3:36talking
- 3:36about,
- 3:36you
- 3:36know,
- 3:37the
- 3:37fact
- 3:37of
- 3:37what
- 3:37you're,
- 3:38what
- 3:38you're
- 3:38not
- 3:38getting.
- 3:38Right.
- 3:38And
- 3:39I
- 3:39want
- 3:39to
- 3:39keep
- 3:39talking
- 3:39about
- 3:40all
- 3:40the
- 3:40things
- 3:40you
- 3:40guys
- 3:40are
- 3:40continuing
- 3:41to
- 3:41do
- 3:41right
- 3:41at
- 3:41Walmart.
- 3:43Yeah,
- 3:43I
- 3:43mean,
- 3:44I,
- 3:44I
- 3:44think
- 3:44the
- 3:45other
- 3:45part
- 3:45that
- 3:46you
- 3:47didn't
- 3:47mention
- 3:47both
- 3:48about
- 3:48McMillan
- 3:49and,
- 3:49and
- 3:49Furner
- 3:50is
- 3:50their
- 3:50leadership
- 3:51styles
- 3:51and
- 3:51the
- 3:52culture
- 3:52that
- 3:52they're
- 3:52creating
- 3:53at
- 3:53Walmart
- 3:53to
- 3:54make
- 3:54things
- 3:54go
- 3:55the
- 3:55way
- 3:55that
- 3:55it
- 3:55they
- 3:56have
- 3:56for
- 3:56Walmart
- 3:57in
- 3:57the
- 3:57last
- 3:57several
- 3:57years.
- 3:57I
- 3:58think
- 3:58it's
- 3:58important
- 3:59to
- 3:59Note
- 3:59that
- 3:59under
- 3:59McMillan's
- 4:00leadership,
- 4:00we
- 4:00heard
- 4:01from
- 4:01almost,
- 4:02we
- 4:03were
- 4:03very
- 4:03close
- 4:03with
- 4:04the
- 4:04teams
- 4:04at
- 4:04Walmart.
- 4:04We
- 4:05interview
- 4:05them
- 4:05often.
- 4:06And
- 4:06one
- 4:06of
- 4:06the
- 4:06things
- 4:07that
- 4:07we
- 4:07hear
- 4:07all
- 4:08the
- 4:08time
- 4:08is
- 4:08that
- 4:08McMillan
- 4:09created
- 4:09a
- 4:09culture
- 4:10that
- 4:10really
- 4:10diminished
- 4:11the
- 4:11politics
- 4:12that
- 4:13can
- 4:13happen.
- 4:13And
- 4:14he
- 4:14really
- 4:15made
- 4:15it
- 4:15an
- 4:15environment
- 4:16where
- 4:16there
- 4:17was
- 4:17a
- 4:17fail
- 4:17fast
- 4:18mentality.
- 4:18It
- 4:18was
- 4:18not
- 4:19about
- 4:19presenting
- 4:20to
- 4:20the.
- 4:20Your
- 4:21boss's
- 4:21boss's
- 4:22boss's
- 4:22boss,
- 4:22it
- 4:22was,
- 4:23how
- 4:23do
- 4:23we
- 4:23get
- 4:23something
- 4:24that
- 4:25can
- 4:25be
- 4:25launched
- 4:26quickly,
- 4:27get
- 4:27ahead
- 4:27of
- 4:27our
- 4:28competitors
- 4:28and
- 4:28really
- 4:29focus
- 4:29on
- 4:29making
- 4:30sure
- 4:30that
- 4:30we're
- 4:31doing
- 4:31the
- 4:31best
- 4:32so
- 4:32that
- 4:32we
- 4:32can
- 4:33make
- 4:33sure
- 4:33that
- 4:33our
- 4:33customers
- 4:34are
- 4:35living
- 4:36better
- 4:37and
- 4:37that
- 4:37they're
- 4:38in
- 4:38an
- 4:38experience
- 4:38where
- 4:38they
- 4:38can
- 4:39live
- 4:39better
- 4:39and
- 4:39save
- 4:40money.
- 4:41Um,
- 4:41he
- 4:41took
- 4:42Walmart
- 4:43from
- 4:43People
- 4:44of
- 4:44Walmart,
- 4:45the,
- 4:45the
- 4:46meme
- 4:46to
- 4:47Walmart
- 4:47for
- 4:47the
- 4:47people.
- 4:48And
- 4:48I
- 4:48think
- 4:48that's
- 4:49something,
- 4:49as
- 4:49you
- 4:49mentioned,
- 4:50will
- 4:50go
- 4:51down
- 4:51in,
- 4:51in
- 4:52Doug
- 4:52McMillan's
- 4:53in,
- 4:54in
- 4:54remembrance
- 4:55of
- 4:55Doug
- 4:55McMillan's
- 4:56tenure.
- 4:57I
- 4:57think
- 4:57the
- 4:57second
- 4:57thing
- 4:58too,
- 4:58is
- 4:58about
- 4:58Furner's
- 4:59leadership,
- 5:00John,
- 5:00as
- 5:01you
- 5:01mentioned
- 5:01how
- 5:02he
- 5:02reached
- 5:02out
- 5:02to
- 5:02you.
- 5:03He's
- 5:03approachable
- 5:04and
- 5:04he's
- 5:04empathetic.
- 5:05He
- 5:05grew,
- 5:06he
- 5:06has
- 5:06grown
- 5:06up,
- 5:06as
- 5:07we
- 5:07mentioned
- 5:07in
- 5:07the
- 5:08company,
- 5:08literally.
- 5:09He,
- 5:09he
- 5:09started
- 5:10his
- 5:10own
- 5:10podcast
- 5:11at
- 5:11Walmart
- 5:11so
- 5:11that
- 5:12the
- 5:12people
- 5:12that
- 5:13work
- 5:13there
- 5:13could
- 5:14understand
- 5:15the
- 5:15people
- 5:15who
- 5:15are
- 5:16working
- 5:16in
- 5:16all
- 5:16areas
- 5:17of
- 5:17the
- 5:17business
- 5:17and
- 5:18made
- 5:18sure
- 5:18that
- 5:18people
- 5:19develop
- 5:19that
- 5:20empathy
- 5:20that
- 5:20he's
- 5:21so
- 5:21well
- 5:21known
- 5:22for,
- 5:22so
- 5:22that
- 5:22you're,
- 5:23you're
- 5:23talking
- 5:23to
- 5:24your
- 5:24colleagues
- 5:24differently.
- 5:25I
- 5:26think
- 5:26the,
- 5:26the
- 5:27last
- 5:27thing
- 5:27about
- 5:27Furner
- 5:28that
- 5:28will
- 5:28be
- 5:28so
- 5:28important
- 5:29as
- 5:29we
- 5:29look
- 5:29at
- 5:29the
- 5:29next
- 5:3010
- 5:30years
- 5:30of
- 5:30Walmart
- 5:31is
- 5:31that
- 5:32when
- 5:32you
- 5:32lead
- 5:33with
- 5:33empathy
- 5:34and
- 5:34curiosity
- 5:35and
- 5:36like
- 5:36Ferner
- 5:36does,
- 5:36he
- 5:37doesn't
- 5:37have
- 5:37to
- 5:37be
- 5:37the
- 5:38smartest
- 5:38person
- 5:38in
- 5:38the
- 5:39room.
- 5:39He's
- 5:39the
- 5:39most
- 5:39curious.
- 5:40And
- 5:40I
- 5:41think
- 5:41that's
- 5:41what
- 5:41will
- 5:41be
- 5:42so
- 5:42important,
- 5:42especially
- 5:43when
- 5:43you
- 5:43think
- 5:43about
- 5:43how
- 5:44much
- 5:44AI
- 5:44is
- 5:45impacting
- 5:46the
- 5:46future
- 5:46of
- 5:47everyone's
- 5:47businesses,
- 5:48but
- 5:48especially
- 5:49Walmart.
- 5:50So
- 5:50I
- 5:50think
- 5:51they,
- 5:51they
- 5:51have
- 5:51a
- 5:52great,
- 5:52great
- 5:53years
- 5:54ahead
- 5:54with
- 5:54Ferner
- 5:55and
- 5:56really
- 5:56well
- 5:56done,
- 5:57Doug
- 5:57McMillan.
- 5:58Yeah,
- 5:59yeah,
- 5:59yeah.
- 5:59You
- 6:00bring
- 6:00up
- 6:00some
- 6:00great
- 6:00points
- 6:00there
- 6:00too.
- 6:00And
- 6:01like,
- 6:01one
- 6:01thing
- 6:01I
- 6:01hadn't
- 6:01thought
- 6:01about
- 6:02is
- 6:02like,
- 6:02they've
- 6:02taken
- 6:03some
- 6:03big
- 6:03swings
- 6:03on
- 6:04some
- 6:04strategies
- 6:04too.
- 6:04Like
- 6:05I
- 6:05think
- 6:05of
- 6:05Walmart
- 6:05Commerce
- 6:06Technologies,
- 6:06you
- 6:06know,
- 6:07that
- 6:07that's
- 6:07kind
- 6:07of
- 6:07gone
- 6:08away,
- 6:08you
- 6:08know,
- 6:08like,
- 6:09but
- 6:09they
- 6:09were
- 6:09after.
- 6:09They
- 6:10went
- 6:10after
- 6:10it.
- 6:10So
- 6:10they've
- 6:10had,
- 6:11they've
- 6:11had
- 6:11some
- 6:11misses
- 6:12too,
- 6:12but
- 6:12those
- 6:12misses
- 6:13don't
- 6:13detract
- 6:13from
- 6:13the
- 6:14overall
- 6:14success.
- 6:14And
- 6:15when
- 6:15you're
- 6:15taking,
- 6:15you
- 6:16know,
- 6:16at
- 6:16bats,
- 6:17that's
- 6:17the
- 6:17most
- 6:17important
- 6:18thing
- 6:18here
- 6:18as
- 6:18you
- 6:18think
- 6:19about
- 6:19the
- 6:19future
- 6:19of
- 6:19retail,
- 6:20instead
- 6:20of
- 6:20just,
- 6:20you
- 6:20know,
- 6:20stand
- 6:21doing
- 6:21what
- 6:22you've
- 6:22always
- 6:22tried
- 6:22to
- 6:22do.