Latest / The Gill Athletics Track and Field Connections Podcast / #127: Gill1918 Presents David Mitchell “Why Try a Frosh-Soph Meet?” Powered by Coach O
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- 0:00There's a very positive trend in athletics right now that is
- 0:03raising both awareness and opportunities for female only
- 0:06competitions in track and field. We recently heard this on the
- 0:10podcast about the Pink Spike Festival in South Carolina and
- 0:13the reasons why it began. Today I'd like to raise, I'd
- 0:17like to raise awareness among those involved in leading high
- 0:20school track and field programs or events about another
- 0:24important way to build up athletes that's not about
- 0:27gender, but instead it's about age.
- 0:30A freshman, sophomore only competition.
- 0:33Hi everybody. I'm David Mitchell, a track and
- 0:35field and cross country coach at the high school level for over
- 0:3820 years in Michigan, and a recently retired teacher school
- 0:41counselor after 39 years of working in public schools in
- 0:45Michigan and South Carolina. Currently, I remain a track and
- 0:48field announcer and I'm serving with coacho.com as Director of
- 0:52Client Relations, including working on all aspects of the
- 0:55Coach O Indoor Track and Field Youth Series at Tryon
- 0:58International and Clemson University.
- 1:01I just returned from 4 days of announcing the 2026 Nike Indoor
- 1:05Nationals in New York City, a meet I've announced since 1999.
- 1:09Once again, I got to enjoy witnessing many of the very best
- 1:12athletes in the country from middle school all the way up
- 1:15through graduating seniors, and it really added to my
- 1:18perspective on this topic. Here are a few reasons why high
- 1:22school coaches should strongly consider attending and are
- 1:26hosting A freshman sophomore only competition during their
- 1:29season. Reason #1 The developmental
- 1:33differences between the span of 14 to 18 or even 19 year olds
- 1:37competing in high school 2. The potential to provide
- 1:40encouragement for the younger athletes to stick with the
- 1:43sport, thereby building your program 3 The useful insights
- 1:48gained by both coaches and athletes from Frosh soft
- 1:50competitions. And four, they're really a lot
- 1:53of fun. In my years as head coach of the
- 1:56boys track and field of boys track and field plus boys and
- 1:59girls cross country at Pinckney High School, I quickly learned
- 2:02the value of Frosh soft meats. We began by attending a well
- 2:07established 9th 10th grade meet at Holly High School in Trek.
- 2:11It was very eye opening to me as a coach before, during and after
- 2:15the meet. Eventually as our program grew,
- 2:18we were able to enter both an A-Team and AB team each year at
- 2:22Holly, providing additional competition athletes
- 2:25opportunities to young athletes. Later, we even expanded the
- 2:29concept by hosting our own 9th and 10th grade meet called the
- 2:33Pirate Frost Soft Relays, again entering an A and AB team.
- 2:38We'd later go on to attend a freshman sophomore meeting cross
- 2:41country as well. For the purpose of this talk,
- 2:44we'll focus on the track and field side of things, but the
- 2:47benefits apply to cross country too.
- 2:50The Holly meet was very efficiently run despite having a
- 2:53large number of teams each year. At our meet, we limited the
- 2:57number of teams to a maximum of 16 in order to manage the time
- 3:01well and to keep everyone's interest.
- 3:05We learned a lot from the great stuff done at Holly, but also
- 3:09personalized our meat in a few ways we'll mention later.
- 3:13Let's start out talking about that first reason, the
- 3:15developmental differences. It doesn't take more than a few
- 3:18seconds to begin to notice some of the physical differences
- 3:21among the athletes on a high school track team.
- 3:24We had baby faced boys who were 5 feet tall and 90 lbs and some
- 3:28who were six feet plus gangly and 115 lbs as young athletes.
- 3:33But we also had some big dudes with beards and physiques that
- 3:36had clearly been shaped by years in the weight room.
- 3:39Now, there are always exceptions when the late rumors in 12th
- 3:43grade still look like 9th graders, or when the 9th graders
- 3:46are the big dudes with beards and beach body physiques.
- 3:50We're going to stick though, with the general truth that most
- 3:529th and 10th graders haven't developed the strength,
- 3:56endurance, and physical maturity that their older team mates
- 3:58have. Mentally, the older athletes
- 4:02have had more opportunity to learn how to manage both success
- 4:06and struggle. And also of great importance,
- 4:10most of the older athletes have learned how to compete at their
- 4:13personal best level. With that in mind, competition
- 4:17between those age groups is more often than not slanted to the
- 4:21advantage of the upperclassmen. I mean, why wouldn't it be?
- 4:25There may be certain 9th and 10th graders that make an
- 4:27immediate impact on the varsity level.
- 4:30Those are the kind of athletes I just saw at Nike Indoor
- 4:33Nationals. But most do not and cannot make
- 4:36that kind of impact yet. So along with the differences in
- 4:40the physical development and the technical skill development from
- 4:44more seasons and years of your excellent coaching, most young
- 4:48athletes don't know how to compete yet.
- 4:50They're used to relying on the older athletes to be the ones
- 4:53who plan ahead, make the sacrifices, leave the warm ups,
- 4:56and then go out there and score the points to help the team.
- 5:00A 9th and 10th grade meet helps the young athletes learn to lead
- 5:03and to compete. It becomes more real to them
- 5:06when they are matched with opponents of a similar
- 5:09development level and often they find out that they can do more
- 5:13than they ever thought possible. That discovery is a key to the
- 5:17second point of providing encouragement to stick with the
- 5:21sport and building the program by keeping them there to allow
- 5:24you to coach them to new levels. The encouragement that can come
- 5:29from the faith that you show them, show in them by putting
- 5:33them into a competitive situation is one way.
- 5:35It also comes from the opportunity to win medals and to
- 5:39look good in front of their peers and parents.
- 5:42As another means of encouragement, I also awarded
- 5:45varsity letter points for scoring in the freshman
- 5:47sophomore meets. Maybe I didn't fit the mold of
- 5:50some coaches who intentionally make it difficult to earn a
- 5:53letter. My athletes still had to earn
- 5:55it, but it was more reasonable than in some programs.
- 5:58I wanted to see varsity letter jackets on young athletes as
- 6:02billboards advertising the program.
- 6:04Plus, it helped form track as part of the athlete's identity,
- 6:08again making it more likely he'd stay with the program.
- 6:11Some of that was influenced by my own high school experience.
- 6:14I didn't earn a varsity letter until I was a senior in high
- 6:17school. It limited my time wearing my
- 6:19varsity jacket with pride, and I didn't want that to happen to
- 6:23others. I was always on the lookout for
- 6:25ways to encourage the young athletes because it was not only
- 6:28good for them, but it was great for our program and I didn't
- 6:33make it too easy. I didn't want the wrong people
- 6:35wearing the varsity jackets. I made them earn it, but they
- 6:39earned it in a way, maybe differently than some others.
- 6:43The third reason to compete in or host freshman sophomore meets
- 6:48is the insights gained by both coaches and athletes.
- 6:52The meets we attended and hosted always had a shuttle hurdle
- 6:54relay. The first year we went to Holly.
- 6:57It really opened my eyes in planning when I realized I only
- 7:00had two hurdlers in that group that I was really honestly
- 7:03developing to be competitive varsity athletes in those
- 7:06events. There should always be more
- 7:08athletes in the pipeline for any event, but at that point I was
- 7:12lacking in that area of developing my team.
- 7:15Never again. Another coaching insight is to
- 7:18see the leaders shine. Some young athletes are just
- 7:22waiting for the opportunity to shine and be a positive
- 7:24influence in a bigger we in a bigger way.
- 7:27Frost soft competitions provide that opportunity.
- 7:31We'd also practice separately from the older athletes on the
- 7:34day prior to the meet, so that was another chance for the
- 7:37athletes to lead and grow. Coaches learn who the clutch
- 7:41performers are in those settings too.
- 7:44It was very common to see athletes burst through plateaus
- 7:47in their performances in those freshman sophomore meets, and
- 7:51that was one of the athlete insights to be gained as well.
- 7:54They learned a lot about themselves as a competitor and
- 7:57as a teammate. They learned how to handle the
- 8:00pressure of stepping up to the line or onto the runway or into
- 8:03the throwing circle. When you're are you are the one
- 8:06everyone's counting on to do his best.
- 8:08That's a lot different than stepping up there hoping to get
- 8:11a PR but lacking other motivation or pressure.
- 8:15And then executing under that pressure also leads to great
- 8:18personal insights and in the best case scenario, a big boost
- 8:22of self-confidence. The final reason I mentioned was
- 8:26fun. 9th and 10th grade meets can really be a lot of fun when
- 8:29approached by the coaches with the right attitude.
- 8:32It leads to a deeper. It leads to deeper relationships
- 8:35with the young athletes who might not get as much of your
- 8:37personal one-on-one or small group attention when the older
- 8:40athletes are present. Building great relationships is
- 8:44definitely fun in the moment and beneficial in the future.
- 8:48Hosting this meet also served as a fundraiser for us, and as all
- 8:51coaches know, having money available when you need it is
- 8:55more fun than having an empty account in the lack of ability
- 8:59to get what you need for your team.
- 9:02We did a few things when we created the Pirate Frost Soft
- 9:05Relays to increase the learning and the fun.
- 9:08We held an individual running of the 300m hurdles at the start of
- 9:12the meet during the field events so that those athletes could
- 9:14shine and be developed. Normally in a dual meet or other
- 9:18settings, they've already run a couple of events before they get
- 9:21to the 300 hurdles. This was a chance to run it
- 9:24fresh and it also made it more manageable within the structure
- 9:29of the meet. Field events are also relay
- 9:33style, adding up the best effort of each of a pair of athletes.
- 9:37We borrowed the brilliant plan from Holly to run the two mile
- 9:41cross country style, finishing on the track.
- 9:43Each team entered with four athletes with three scoring and
- 9:474th being the tiebreaker, again forcing deeper development by
- 9:51the coaches in that training group.
- 9:53It was also a good introduction and a recruiting tool for the
- 9:56cross country team. With 16 teams Max on an 8 lane
- 10:01track, there'd only be two sections of time final of each
- 10:04relay, so it moved quickly from one event to the next.
- 10:07Once that portion of the competition was underway.
- 10:10The biggest fun boost playing came from placing the Co Ed
- 10:14Sprint Med or Co Ed Sprint medley at the end of the meet.
- 10:17400 meter girl lead off, 200 meter boy, 200 meter girl and a
- 10:23400 meter boy anchor leg. I worked with the girls coach to
- 10:27make sure that each of us saved our top athletes for this event.
- 10:30It really lit the atmosphere up as the top male and female
- 10:34gladiators entered the ring against their opponents with all
- 10:37of their team mates cheering them on.
- 10:39In the years that we hosted that meet, we never lost that race,
- 10:43so it became a point of pride for the program, athletes and
- 10:46parents. It was a very fun way to finish
- 10:50and again, it gave young athletes the opportunity to
- 10:52compete and a high energy, higher expectation competition.
- 10:57Hopefully hearing about this topic gives you some motivation
- 11:00to attend or host a Frost Soft meet soon.
- 11:03I appreciate you taking the time to listen and I welcome your
- 11:06feedback or suggestions or questions.
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