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8-10-26 Hour 2 - Davis Webb on Bo Nix's progress/Is Jokic being selfish?/Oh, By the Way... · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're still working through that shot, and I I
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  Speaker 2: would like to be on the field is where I'm
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  Speaker 2: at today. I didn't play much my NFL career. I
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  Speaker 2: kind of saw the game a lot from that point
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  Speaker 2: of view, so I feel pretty good there. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: we'll talk about a little bit more. But that's where
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  Speaker 2: we're headed right now.
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  Speaker 3: Back out of your Broncos Park training camp coverage brought
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  Speaker 3: to you by Ramos Law. That was Davis Webb over
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  Speaker 3: the weekend talking about where he'll call plays. Does it
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  Speaker 3: matter to you? It's always a story when it's an
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  Speaker 3: offensive coordinator. Does he call it from the booth? Does
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  Speaker 3: he call it from the sideline?
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  Speaker 4: Does it matter? It's where you're most comfortable. I remember
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  Speaker 4: Vic Fangio those thoughts. Should he be in the booth?
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  Speaker 4: Should he be on the sideline? I mean, coaches where
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  Speaker 4: their most comfortable is where they should call the plays.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it's that big a deal. It's oh well,
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  Speaker 4: you could see more from the booth. Yeah, but you
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  Speaker 4: can't talk to the players. Yeah, you know, so each
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  Speaker 4: has an advantage. And if that's where he's most comfortable
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  Speaker 4: hanging out, I think I think he should be on
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  Speaker 4: the sideline because someone has to be that buffer between
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  Speaker 4: Sean Payton true quarterback. Yeah. I think that's the value he.
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  Speaker 3: Brings to the table there if there's if there's no
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  Speaker 3: impediment between Sean Payton and Boone Nicks, it's gonna be
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  Speaker 3: that conversation happening while you're upstairs, and maybe you want
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  Speaker 3: the one on one time more uh as the guy
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  Speaker 3: who's calling the plays. But it's always been something that
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  Speaker 3: fascinates me. Now, I think in in Fangio's case, when
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  Speaker 3: you're the head coach, you gotta be on the sideline
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  Speaker 3: because you you got to oversee kind of everything and
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  Speaker 3: I know you might have a specific you know, he
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  Speaker 3: was the DC along with being the head coach, but
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  Speaker 3: you got to be on the sideline as head coach coordinator.
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  Speaker 3: I'd I've always been like, it's always a story to people.
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  Speaker 3: I've never really understood it. It's wherever they're comfortable calling
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  Speaker 3: a play.
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  Speaker 5: You know, when you look at Davis Webb and He's right.
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  Speaker 5: He hardly played in the National Football League at all. Right,
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  Speaker 5: just did a lot of like watchful snap that's correct.
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  Speaker 5: But as far as coaching is concerned, it feels like
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  Speaker 5: he's pretty much on a fast track, you know what
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  Speaker 5: I mean. It feels like And maybe that's just me going,
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  Speaker 5: hey man, look, Clint, we're here real quick. So Clint
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  Speaker 5: is thirty nine with the Raiders, Okay, go Clin Kubik's
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  Speaker 5: already thirty.
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  Speaker 4: Nine years old and he was a kid running around here.
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  Speaker 5: I remember watching him play at at Regis under big fifty,
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  Speaker 5: Big fifty with the head coach in Regis.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Anyway, that being said, thirty one years old for Davis
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  Speaker 5: web When when Sean McVeigh got the job with the Rams,
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  Speaker 5: was he what thirty three?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, youngest head coach in the league.
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  Speaker 5: So this guy, Davis Webb, I mean, to have this
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  Speaker 5: responsibility at the age of thirty one, but to be
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  Speaker 5: sort of fast tracked. Look, Sean Payton knows talent, he
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  Speaker 5: realizes the brain on Davis Webb and his football acumen,
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  Speaker 5: and he's greasing the skids form. I think it's good.
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  Speaker 5: It's just wow. This guy is really he's really ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Of the you know, he said something else and it's
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  Speaker 3: what the expectations are for Bonnicks heading into year three.
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  Speaker 3: It's funny because we've had this conversation too. It's much
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  Speaker 3: different for him because he's the guy who's calling the
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  Speaker 3: plays for him. But I struggle to find what that
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  Speaker 3: is outside of maybe better consistency early in games, because
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  Speaker 3: bottom line is he's winning. But there's something too that
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  Speaker 3: I want to get to in a second. But here's
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  Speaker 3: Davis webs answer.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's right on par with you know,
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  Speaker 2: the other guys I've been around going into year three,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm really satisfied. Worries that both getting in and
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  Speaker 2: out of play, is getting to the huddle, getting in
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  Speaker 2: out of huddle, fast, checking plays when it's appropriate, not overthinking,
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  Speaker 2: getting completions underneath, and using his feet.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I think the injury last year it was important for
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  Speaker 2: him to kind of move around a little bit early here,
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  Speaker 2: and I think he's done a really good job. I'm
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  Speaker 2: really satisfied with he is.
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  Speaker 3: So let me ask you a questions surrounding that. What
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  Speaker 3: is your concern with bo Nicks heading into year three?
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  Speaker 3: And you can't say ankle or injury, just pure play.
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  Speaker 3: What's your concern? What's I don't know that I'm concerned.
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  Speaker 3: I don't have many concerns. And that's that's one of
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  Speaker 3: the strengths. I guess he he lives and eats football.
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  Speaker 3: He has wheels, his passing games improving. We keep hearing
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  Speaker 3: that his long balls on point. He has more control
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  Speaker 3: of the offense, more knowledge of the offense. I I
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  Speaker 3: don't know what my concern is. Maybe that's my concern
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  Speaker 3: that I don't know what my concern is. Yes, I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna be in vix camp here. I'm gonna ride his
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  Speaker 3: coattails on this one. I guess my concern would be
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  Speaker 3: how high.
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  Speaker 4: Is his ceiling? Right? That's Fit's a good point.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, because because right now and again I don't know
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  Speaker 5: what Mendoz is going to be in Vegas.
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  Speaker 4: I have no idea.
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  Speaker 5: But right now I think we can all agree that
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  Speaker 5: inside the division he's still number three. Okay, now, some
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  Speaker 5: people might have him number two. I don't know some
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  Speaker 5: Broncos fans, but I have him still as the third
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  Speaker 5: best quarterback in the division. When do I when do
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  Speaker 5: I amend my rankings quarterbacks in the division? And I
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  Speaker 5: don't know what the Helman does is going to be
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  Speaker 5: what if he ends up being overall number one type
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  Speaker 5: of guy and really that good of a quarterback? But
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  Speaker 5: can you know when do I amend it to say? No,
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  Speaker 5: you know what Nix is now number two? Or hell,
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  Speaker 5: Nix is now number one? Where where can he get
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  Speaker 5: to know?
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  Speaker 4: All you can ask for is stages? What stage are
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  Speaker 4: you at right now? Guys? Do you remember when we
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  Speaker 4: were doing these shows last year at this time, what
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  Speaker 4: did I say I wanted to see out of bone
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  Speaker 4: knicks last season? What did I say? Remember I said
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  Speaker 4: there's one hoop I needed to see him jump through. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you wanted to see him come back and close out?
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  Speaker 4: When you can you win games when the game? When
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  Speaker 4: you remember, remember I said that, you said that from
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  Speaker 4: the you said that from the beginning last year, I
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  Speaker 4: said that. Last year, I said, can this kid win
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  Speaker 4: a game that his team is losing by playing some
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  Speaker 4: phenomenal football in the fourth quarter? And he did it.
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  Speaker 4: He did it better than any player in the league
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  Speaker 4: last year. Yep.
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  Speaker 3: If if I'm looking at what a concern could be,
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  Speaker 3: I'll make it comparison when the Nuggets sees and was
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  Speaker 3: we were in the thick of it, and you're dealing
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  Speaker 3: with all these injuries.
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  Speaker 4: But I think we could all agree it just didn't
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  Speaker 4: feel right.
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  Speaker 3: It never did, and maybe the injuries were solely the
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  Speaker 3: reason for it. I don't know, but you remember what
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  Speaker 3: happened at the end of the year. They rattled off
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  Speaker 3: twelfth straight, they secured the three seed, and it felt
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  Speaker 3: like winning was a mask of maybe some problems that
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  Speaker 3: they had within the roster, that were hiding some things.
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  Speaker 3: And I guess my concern would be last year the
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  Speaker 3: Broncos won so much fourteen and three AFC Championship of
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  Speaker 3: parents could have been a Super Bowl if bow Nick
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  Speaker 3: stayed healthy. Did the winning mask a lot of offensive
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  Speaker 3: problems because you just got dubs at the end of it,
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  Speaker 3: And would that stuff creep in and bite you this
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  Speaker 3: year where if you do get off to slow starts
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  Speaker 3: and games again, maybe you don't have such a slim
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  Speaker 3: margin to try and come back from. Maybe the game's
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  Speaker 3: already over by the time you turn your offense.
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  Speaker 5: I can tell you, Brett that Sean Payton I think
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  Speaker 5: feels that way well in the reason because he's reiterated it.
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  Speaker 4: Time and time again in the offseason. The reason I
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  Speaker 4: bring that up is.
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  Speaker 3: It's gonna be hard enough to try and repeat to
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  Speaker 3: win the division this year because you play in an
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  Speaker 3: impossibly hard division. The AFC, you would think is going
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  Speaker 3: to get better overall because guys like Mahomes and Burrow
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  Speaker 3: and Lamar Jackson are probably gonna be healthier this year
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  Speaker 3: and they'll be at full staff. If you have those
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  Speaker 3: slow starts and you drop games early because you don't
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  Speaker 3: get the offense going early enough in games, that's my concern.
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  Speaker 4: And I think winning.
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  Speaker 3: Massed a lot of that last year because you were
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  Speaker 3: able to make the insane come max late in games
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  Speaker 3: and so at the end of the day, you're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it was a slow start, but I mean they're five
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  Speaker 3: and one or whatever we would say at that point
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  Speaker 3: in the schedule.
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  Speaker 4: That's it.
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  Speaker 3: I think if there's one concern, it's can you be
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  Speaker 3: more effective early in the game, And.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they reeled off eleven stree It wins Vick. That's
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  Speaker 4: everyone's goal, guys, is to get off the better starts,
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  Speaker 4: especially in games, not just the season. You know, not
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  Speaker 4: having to roll out fourth quarter of magic. But I
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  Speaker 4: tell you what, it's more fun to watch that fourth
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  Speaker 4: quarter of Magic. As a fan, it is fun when
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  Speaker 4: they're winning. But I'm looking back on it.
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  Speaker 5: I just I remember these I remember the shows, what
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  Speaker 5: we did after these games.
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  Speaker 4: The Philly game, it's seventeen to.
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  Speaker 5: Three going into the fourth quarter, okay, seventeen to three,
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  Speaker 5: and they're like, okay, we have this two thousand yard back.
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  Speaker 4: Should we give them?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 4: Wait, give sake on the ball? Nod.
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  Speaker 5: So I mean, some of this it felt like, and
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  Speaker 5: I don't want don't I'm not bashing here, but it
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  Speaker 5: felt like some of it was handed to them, sort
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  Speaker 5: of gift wrapped, right, I mean when the New York
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  Speaker 5: Giants shut you out for three quarters and then allow
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  Speaker 5: thirty three to lose the game for the Giants, And
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  Speaker 5: remember the Giants themselves had a hog wild four quarter two,
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  Speaker 5: but not thirty three points. Like I mean, it felt
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  Speaker 5: like they were given some of these games, the Jets
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  Speaker 5: game in London and so on.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's why on Mondays I would be accused and
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  Speaker 3: I think appropriately of being the guy after a win.
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  Speaker 3: That's like peeing in people's boots and being like, well,
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  Speaker 3: why are you such a wet blanket?
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  Speaker 4: And I'm like, I don't know how to tell you this.
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  Speaker 3: It still doesn't feel like this is supposed to be happening.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't feel like you're supposed to be coming away
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  Speaker 3: from games like that with wins. But but at the
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  Speaker 3: end of the day, Vic, it's like, if Bonnicks doesn't
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  Speaker 3: get hurt, they might have been in a super Bowl
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  Speaker 3: And maybe I was wrong.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. Well, you just don't know what's right
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  Speaker 4: or wrong at that point, because like seasons can change
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  Speaker 4: so easily, so quickly. I give you the two thousand
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  Speaker 4: and eleven Broncos season. What happened in twenty and eleven, Moser,
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  Speaker 4: what happened happened? You know, the Broncos made the playoffs
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  Speaker 4: a year. Do you know what their record was at here?
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  Speaker 4: Eight and eight?
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  Speaker 5: They were going to say nine and seven, but eight
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  Speaker 5: and eight, and they made the playoffs.
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  Speaker 4: And it's still an eight and eight season. Mind you,
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  Speaker 4: an eight and eight season still goes down as one
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  Speaker 4: of the most exciting seasons I've ever seen out of
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  Speaker 4: a Denver Broncos team.
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  Speaker 5: What are we gonna have to sit down with John Elway?
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  Speaker 5: What are you gonna do one of your Lway things?
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  Speaker 4: I can tell you I'm doing something with Tim Tebow. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: and I'll let you guys know what that is soon
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  Speaker 4: as soon as NFL Films is allowed to release the information. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: but I can tell you that season they're gonna relive
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  Speaker 4: it because it was so magical that they see fit
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  Speaker 4: to do a documentary on it. Do you remember, though,
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  Speaker 4: the shot of John Elway up in the press box
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  Speaker 4: or the sweet or whatever after that touchdown pass was
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  Speaker 4: thrown to DT. Do you remember the look his yeah wilderment.
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  Speaker 4: He was like, I mean, you're happy, you want a
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  Speaker 4: playoff game? Brett on a. DT took it to the house.
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  Speaker 5: But at the same time you knew in your heart
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  Speaker 5: of hearts this was not the future.
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  Speaker 4: But there are still some Barco fans sitting there watching us,
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  Speaker 4: listening to us right now, saying to themselves, is bo
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  Speaker 4: Nick's more Tim Tebow or John Elway? Because John Elway
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  Speaker 4: won in the fourth quarter, and you know, you know
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  Speaker 4: when he got them all in the fourth quarter, he
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  Speaker 4: had a chance. Tim Tebow won in the fourth quarter too,
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  Speaker 4: but they were crazy, So what is he? I guarantee
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  Speaker 4: you folks listening to us are like, I think he's
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  Speaker 4: more Tebow than Lway and there are others saying now
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  Speaker 4: he's more Lway than now.
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  Speaker 5: He's more He's definitely more Lway than Tebow. He can
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  Speaker 5: throw the ball, well, of course he can't. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 5: but he's he's got Tim was fired up.
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  Speaker 4: I mean he was. He was a good leader, don't
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  Speaker 4: get me wrong.
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  Speaker 5: But this guy's got a little bit more talking about Nicks,
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  Speaker 5: he's got a little bit more flair, you know what
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  Speaker 5: I mean, sort of more of the Lway flair. But again, Brett,
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  Speaker 5: do yourself a favor, even in the latter stage of
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  Speaker 5: his career, the stages of his career, go back and
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  Speaker 5: watch Lway drop back to pass and just watch him
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  Speaker 5: plant those feet, swibble those hips and fire that pig.
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  Speaker 4: God.
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  Speaker 5: Always a thing of beauty. Man, just gorgeous, so good.
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  Speaker 4: Three h three five oh four oh ninety five. Get
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  Speaker 4: more audio.
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  Speaker 5: See here's one here these far closer to Tebo. I disagree.
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  Speaker 5: I disagree.
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  Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think that's fair to him, Like really,
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  Speaker 4: really both are unfair at this point. But I would argue,
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  Speaker 4: you know, as magical as that season was, and it was,
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  Speaker 4: I think the most valuable player on the team that
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  Speaker 4: year was Matt Prater some of the kicks he made
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  Speaker 4: to win games. He did. The defense was phenomenal. I
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  Speaker 4: thought the coaching that year was phenomenal. To be able
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  Speaker 4: to change your style to play mid season, not early
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  Speaker 4: in the season, mind you, mid season. Yeah, to go
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  Speaker 4: from a pro style offense to essentially option football. Read
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  Speaker 4: it was a completely different offense. It was fun to watch,
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  Speaker 4: but it wasn't sustainable obviously.
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  Speaker 3: H three zero three five four nine two five still
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  Speaker 3: got a whole bunch to get through.
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  Speaker 4: Stick around, boy, this Texter is mad two one nine four.
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  Speaker 4: Let me read this text. Don't worry you guys are
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  Speaker 4: always wrong. A weird face with the laughing emoji. Football
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  Speaker 4: is situational, and honestly, I don't think you guys really
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  Speaker 4: understand that. You just like to talk about football and
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  Speaker 4: give your opinions. Well what else are we supposed to give?
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  Speaker 4: Funny how the year before Kansas City won a bunch
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  Speaker 4: of those closed games. They were supposed to win those, right.
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  Speaker 4: Then Denver went a bunch of close games last year
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  Speaker 4: and came back and suddenly we weren't supposed to win those.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what the hell this is. Okay, I'll
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  Speaker 4: give you you know what texture.
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  Speaker 3: You just proved your on point or approved my point
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  Speaker 3: by trying to prove your honest should say. So, he's
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  Speaker 3: trying to allege that Kansas City got credit a couple
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  Speaker 3: of years ago for winning close games one score game.
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  Speaker 4: And the entire year, we just we kept saying, God,
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  Speaker 4: how many of these damn games are gonna pull out?
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  Speaker 3: But you know what it was. To his defense, it
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  Speaker 3: was Kansas City and their winners and homes is a winner,
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  Speaker 3: so it's a good quality.
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  Speaker 4: That's the attachment.
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  Speaker 3: And I told you that's not sustainable because there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of luck factors that go into winning close games.
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  Speaker 4: Now you were saying that, honestly, Brett, you were saying
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  Speaker 4: that entire season when they won fifteen games in sixteen weeks.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I know that they keep winning and
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  Speaker 3: that's they can always shove the w in my face.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, what happened last year because I'll tell you guys
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  Speaker 4: what the record was in one score games. They were five, six, seven,
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  Speaker 4: eight nine.
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  Speaker 3: One in nine last year in one score games. Because
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  Speaker 3: that's not a sustainable way to win most games in
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  Speaker 3: the NFL are one score.
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  Speaker 4: I agree, but you.
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  Speaker 3: Have to be in control when you're hanging on by
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  Speaker 3: this skinnier teeth and you make a late play. That's
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  Speaker 3: not something that every single year you're capable of doing.
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  Speaker 4: You just can't. There's too much randomness involved.
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  Speaker 5: Inn Look as far as the what was that number again, Vic,
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  Speaker 5: the two to one nine four, I'm gonna give Brett
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  Speaker 5: credit because that entire season he was like, I don't
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  Speaker 5: believe it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't believe it.
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  Speaker 5: Now they did go to the Super Bowl and they lost,
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  Speaker 5: but you kept saying, I don't think they're as good
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  Speaker 5: as he can't play with fire records, right, But for
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  Speaker 5: the two one nine four, First of all, there's a
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  Speaker 5: bit of a difference because the Chiefs had a pedigree, okay,
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  Speaker 5: and they've been multiple Super Bowl championships, had been bestowed
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  Speaker 5: upon them. And so the Broncos last year they go
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  Speaker 5: fourteen and three, but they didn't have that track record.
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: So you can, you know, just believe it all the time.
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: You can now if you want to. But I'm telling
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: you two one nine four and everybody else Sean Peyton
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: has said this time and time again in the offseason
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: that they can't play that way anymore. He knows it
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: was an anomaly type of situation. He knows that they
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: lucked out here or they kicked ass there, but he
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: knows that these one score games you're playing, as you said, Brett,
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: with fire. Peyton has said it time and time again.
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: So you can believe me Brett and Vicker, you can
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: believe the coach. But we're both the same the same thing.
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: Go ahead, It's still my favorite part of the text is, Uh,
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: you guys just like to talk football and give your opinions. Okay,
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: let's go ahead and talk football without our opinions here.
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: Football is in oblong shape. Football is all that I
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: can't say. It's a fun game. Football season starts September twelfth.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: For the Broncos, players run into each other and follow
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: on the ground a lot. The Broncos are in the
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: AFC West. When you throw the football to the motion
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: is called a spiral. Spiral to the Texas credit.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Even when Vic wasn't giving a football opinion, he's still
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: got a fact wrong because they play the fourteenth not
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: the twelfth.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: Got that.
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: My opinion is they should be playing on the twelfth
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: instead of the fourteenth.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: Hey, how's this for an opinion? Do you see what
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: Bobby Mark said over the weekend. What did he say?
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: So he's talking about Jayleen Brunson victor women Yama, how
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: they have taken less money. They've left money on the
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: table to help their team.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: That's the trend. Now.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Brunson left one hundred and thirteen million on the table.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: I guess when min Yama left around, you know, fifty million.
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: And they're going to make that up at the end.
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: They're gonna it's going to come back to them.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: He says that Nikola Jokic is not acting in the
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Nugget's best interest. This is the second year in a
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: row that he has done this. He was eligible last
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: year for three years. He's talking about extensions, decided not
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: to do it. He wanted to wait an extra summer
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: of twenty twenty six because he can get a fourth year,
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: basically an extra seventy to eighty million.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: We get to this summer.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: He wants to wait until the summer of twenty twenty
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: seven because he can get a five year deal with
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: three hundred and sixty million. So that's an extra eighty million,
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: And he says, man, this could be a rocky year
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: for Denver. Now, this is all kind of tied into
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: the idea. So what's he saying.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: He's saying that Joker should have given up some money
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: to help them out of this financial inront in the
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: context of like Peyton Watson and stuff like that. Yes, now,
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: so maybe he's saying. What he's saying is maybe maybe
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: Joker should have signed deal this year, taken less and
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: allowed some breathing room for some of these other players.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: That's that's what we're saying, because he's saying when Min
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Yama and Jalen Brunson both did it. Now, here's what
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: I tell you, and this is what's you know. I
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: was off for a week, so I have.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: This came up on the show.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: By the way, I have seven days of non Peyton
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Watson stuff that I haven't talked about.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: Though. Would just like to say one.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Thing because I read this story Peyton Watson and seems
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: to be upset with the Nuggets during this negotiation process.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't the more proper way to put this he should
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: be mad at his agency, Like it's not. Here's the
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: funny thing. The Nuggets aren't the only team that can
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: provide an offer right now. Well, there's twenty nine others
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: that can.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: Two things can be true though two things can be true. Yeah,
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Nicola could do this, could fix this in the blink
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: of an eye. He could if he wanted to. Sure,
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: but should he? My we had this come up on
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: the show last week. We had this come up. Everybody says,
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: why is it Nicola taking less to allow these players
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: to sign? And my retort is this all right? Why
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: just Nicola? Why stop there? Why isn't Jamal taking less?
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: Why isn't Aaron Gordon taking less? Yeah? Why isn't Christian
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: Brown taking less? Why is there always have to be
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: one guy taking less? Shouldn't this be a team effort?
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: If you're gonna ask one player to take less, why
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: not ask four players to take less?
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Well, and here's the other part of it. I would
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I would compare it to this and tell me if
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: this is accurate or not. Remember back in the day
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: before nil, when you would have a million people in
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: the NBA, in the NFL declaring early for the draft, right,
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: and what would happen? An agent would come along and
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: be like, Vic, I'm just telling I know you got
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: an eligibility left. I'm just telling you I talked to
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: a couple of teams. You're a second round pick. Dude,
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: like you're you're gonna go early in the draft. Then
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: the draft comes and he's signing an undrafted free agent
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: rookie deal, begging to be on a roster Somewhere, he
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: got bad advice.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: I think Peyton Watson got some bad advice. Well, you
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: know what, things went sour for Peyton Watson after the
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: first week of free agency because nobody at that time
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: teams had money. They had money under the cap, and
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: after one week of free agency, that money dried up
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: in a hurry, and that's where he lost down on
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: his money.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Well, is that Here's here's my question. Though, that doesn't
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: sound a lot to me like that's the Nuggets fault.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: That sounds like that's his agent's fault for telling him
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: that there was X amount of dollars per year coming
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: his way that still hasn't happened yet.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: It's I think it's a series of it's just a
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: bad setup for him this year, given the Nuggets restrictions,
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: the lack of funds available to teams, their their unwillingness
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: to enter the second aprons and now it's too late now.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: The only it's just it's bad timing, right, It's for
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: Peyton Watson being an RFA, the circumstances surrounding his year
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: of RFA are difficult for him.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: That's absolutely case.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: How's this, by the way, for a different type of conversation.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Is there a responsibility is the wrong word, but is
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: there something to the idea that in a sport where
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: a singular player who's a star player on the team
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: like Jokic is to the Nuggets can make up to
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: eighty million dollars a year and the sport is pretty
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: clearly dealing with a very cap restrictive problem. Is there
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: anything to the idea of responsibility of that guy being like, hey,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: instead of eighty how about you take sixty five?
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: Is that not enough? Y?
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Or is it is that just being like, hey, it's
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: his money, he earned it.
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: I mean, well, let's put it this way. If Nikola
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: Jokic was free, free and teams could sign him to
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: a supermax, they do it.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: You'd have teams lining up to sign him to this.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: That's not the question and question so question is for him, so.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: For that team, but they wouldn't be saying, well, can
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: you take ten less or fifteen less?
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Per?
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's in sixty five enough? I mean, obviously
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: from our perspective.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: It's it's enough.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: I can get a boat with a boat, but that's
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: what he's worth.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Can I just say this on the front end before
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: you say anything that I don't think there's any responsibility
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: of him to do it, but there's gonna be a
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: wide group of people especially and this is why we
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: hear this all the time, guys who take discounts in sports.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Other players hate it because now they feel the pressure of, well,
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: why don't you do what Jayleen Brunson did?
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: It got him a championship? Why don't you do that?
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: Everybody now feels that At the end of the day, Guys,
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: I'm going to echo something that I always say and
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: I catch a lot of heat for it, especially when
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: it comes to free agency. What is the number one
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: goal of a player in professional sports? To make money?
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: Make bread, maximize your earning potential while you can.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna list you the goals of a professional athlete.
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: I went down the list. Number one is do I
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: have a job? That's number one? Do I have a job?
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: Number two? Which am I getting paid? Here's here's the
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: top five goal. Winning's like fifth on the words the
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: top five money money, mean, mulah, how much of that many?
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: And then narrows say many, yes, yeah, And he's trying
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: to be okay, he's giving you. I'm giving you so
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: no one listen. Very few guys like Jalen Brunson, I guess,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: can say. I guess I'll take a lot. I'm not
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: messing with the dude's money. I'm just not. I'm not
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: gonna do it. So to ask these guys to take
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: pay cuts because the system is jacked up, that's not
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: fair to them. Now that it's the system.
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: Now that he's got a ring, you think Jalen Brunton's
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: taking a haircut anymore?
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no no. But you know what,
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: the way here's how, here's how Nicola Yolk may see it.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: I can't speak for Nicola. Hey man, I was undrafted.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: I made nothing my first few years compared to some
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: of these dudes coming out of the draft. Now I
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: would have been a number one pick overall. Think about
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: how much money, more money I would have. He wasn't undrafted,
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: he was the second rounder. Well whatever. Basically you know
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: you today though, Yeah, that's two screw ups. But you
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: know what I mean by that? He his he started
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: behind the eight ball to begin this race. Financially, I'd
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: like to start behind that eight ball. How about you, bro?
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: Would you like to start behind that second round eight ball?
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: And I want to be more democratic with that process.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: If those of you, for those of you out there
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: who think he should take less, why why stop there?
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: Why just him? What about his teammates? There are other
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: guys on the team making a lot of money. Yeah,
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: how about us? You you should take less? Some money
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: goes to him, you should take less. Certainly, Hey, I'm
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: gonna tell you right now, I ain't taking less. That's
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: why I told you. I it's not that I agree
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: with it, but I know the sentiment is going to
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: be out there, and I suppose there is a bit
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: of a difference for you know, eighty million a year,
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: seventy million, sixty five million, whatever. But this is the pressure.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: When other people do this, there is some sort of
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: look of like, well, why why don't you you know
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: what this is?
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: This whole pay and Watson think, to me, it's a game,
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: it's a It's unfortunate for Peyton. I love the kid.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: I think he deserves better. I think he will get
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: better at some point. But Unfortunately he's stuck in a
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: mad game of musical chairs. When did your musical chairs? Yeah,
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: and the way the contracts are set up for this
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: specific team, he's on that one spot where there's no
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: chair for him right now.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I watched. I flicked it on and I'm like,
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: oh my god, the mo documentary is on. So I
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: watched the Doug Mood documentary again yesterday. Good good job,
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: by the way. Then there was a sit down after
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: that with Peyton watching Vic and Peyton we're at Shanahan's.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: No, we're at stk Stakes downtown. That being said, when
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: when did that take place? I don't remember. It was
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: March February. Thought.
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: I thought it was really good, and I'm like, now
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: that i'm watching this again, I'm like, I want to
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: keep this guy. I just don't want things to get sideways.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: Here's another thing, Brett cal.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: Mccarr is gonna be due. Now. These are forwards.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: You see a twenty year old in Maclin Celebrini getting
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: eighteen eight right, yep, you see Caprisoff got eighteen Obviously
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: to resign with Minnesota, they had to overpay Cail MCCAORRN.
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: I mean he already took a haircut before should he
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: take another one? I don't, I don't, I don't know, right.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: I don't want to put that on these guys, you
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: know what? Because yeah, I don't want to put that
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: on these guys, because why is it their responsibility when
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: everybody else could take less if you want to get
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: other good guys on the team. Now, if he chooses
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: to of his own volition, that's one thing, but I'm
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: not gonna I don't think fans should get on his bacon.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: If he commands what he can command. I just got
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: one one premise in life. Don't tell me what to
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: do with my money, that's all. Yeah, you tell me
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: what to do with everything else, don't tell me what
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: to do with my money. Yeah.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: The thing about where the Nuggets find themselves, and this
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: is for the the salary caps A is fake crowd.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: This applies the same to the NFL. But at some
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: point you gotta pay the piper. And the Nuggets are
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: finding some bad decisions maybe in the past, are coming
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: to haunt them now. And this is why you're essentially immobile.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: And it's not just the fact that they don't have
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: money to spend. There's a lot of teams that are
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: dealing with being restricted to not going to the second
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: apron or being a few hundred thousand dollars before it
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: or whatever. It's the fact that they don't have assets
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: to move off pieces that could help them get relief
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: that they've they've exhausted those already, and that I think
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: is more the problem than you know, who they gave
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: the contracts to is one thing, but it's the the
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: being immobile of getting off of contract. Here's other teams
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: can do. Here's one wrinkle I.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: Would make if I were the the new CBA of
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: the NBA. If I were to make one wrinkle to
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: the CBA is you should be able to pay the
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: guys you drafted whatever you want and it shouldn't hurt
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: you with the Apians. Now, if you're gonna be the Lakers,
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: if you're gonna be these teams that goes out and
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: just steals players from other squads because you can like
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: a cap for outside exactly right, like the Knicks. They
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: that Knicks roster was what it was all players. They
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: you know, if that's what you're gonna do, those players
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: have to be limited in what they can make. They
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: have to be because you just took them. But if
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: you draft and develop and do it the the organic way.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: They always talk about this in the NBA. We did
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: it the right way, the organic way well, and by god,
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: why are you punishing teams for doing that? I agree
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: like the fact that.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Where did the Nuggets really get themselves into trouble going
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: back to last year, It's that they gave contracts to
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: who Christian Brown, Murray Christian Brown, and Michael Porter Junior.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: These are all drafted guys. Yes, they're all their own
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: guys or so that's the flaw in the system. And
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: if the NBA, if the NBA wants to fix that,
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: fix that flaw, don't tell players to take away.
• 29:00
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• 29:29
  Speaker 3: should be aware of.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: The Hall of Fame took place the induction ceremony over
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: the weekend. Now we get the list of the first
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: time eligibles for this year's class.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: What do you guys think of these names? Throw them
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: out their rapid fire? Gronk, Yes, what are you asking
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: me if he belongs to the Hall of Fame. Yes,
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: there's no question, right, no question.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Roethlisberger yes, Adrian Peterson yes, Richard Sherman uh No.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: Borderline, borderline. Borderline.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Cornerbacks are tough because he was like the best in
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: the league for two years and that seems to be
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: most of those guys Life Spin. My immediate response, Cam Newton, No, no, no,
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Antonio Brown, No. Antonio Brown is absolutely a Hall of Famer,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: but he's I think his antics are going at Yeah,
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: but it's not.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: The Hall of Shame, it's Hall of Fame. It doesn't matter.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: But he was a great seeing his numbers, his numbers
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: with you, oh, I got I agree with yeah. And
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: then it's Leveon Bell. Yeah, I would put him in borderline.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Andrew Whitworth he is, yes, yes, then it's Alex mack.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: Gerald McCoy no. And Eric Weddle.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: No.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: I did love Weddle though. So there's a lot of guys.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: I like, here's the first time eligibles for next year. Okay,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: So it feels like what do we go through? Was Gronk, Roethlisberger,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Peterson and Antonio Brown and Whitworth.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, those five sounds good to be alignment in there
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: with what fills that bill? What do you think happens
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: with a B? What do you mean what happens? I again,
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: if you go from a straighters, that is a lot
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: of Steelers. But if you go from a straight numbers perspective, like,
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: let me look these up and I'll give them to you.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: Like Antonio Brown was so electric and so good for
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: so long. Uh, he's got twelve thousand receiving yards, almost
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: a thousand catches, and eighty three touchdowns Like that's unquestionably
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: all pretty pretty dude. He was a great player, but
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: he was not. But yeah, but you can't you can't
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: discount him being Antonio Brown from the discussion entirely, can you.
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  Speaker 5: Well, now as a guy, Now, look, he was a
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: great player, he's terrible to cameos. Now as a guy
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: who's cameo whole fourteen bucks up his last in Devin,
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: let me uh, let me say that he's a horrible
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: cameo or that being said, this isn't the Cameo Hall
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  Speaker 5: of Fame. This is the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 5: And so I'm gonna put him in. By the way,
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: I have one for you if you like it. You
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: guys know who Jacob Wilson is. No, he's the shortstop
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  Speaker 5: for the soon to be Vegas A's.
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  Speaker 4: He's got like a bunch of errorless innings that he's posted.
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  Speaker 5: He just set a brand new Major League Baseball record
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  Speaker 5: one hundred and eleven straight games without an error at shortstop.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: That's short, that's impressive. You ready for this?
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: His last error was July sixth, twenty twenty five against
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: the Giants.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: Good lord, that's pretty impressive. Is that not unbelievable for
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: a shortstop? One one hundred and eleven straight games without
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: an error? Who's who are the best fielding shortstops of
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: all time?
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: Ozzys Verry the guy for the walk, the red Berry
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: Larkin I got for the White Sox. Yeah, the skill
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, and even these guys like Ozzy Smith. Dude,
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: Ozzy was an acrobat and he was a brilliant I mean,
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: his club was magical, even he made an error from.
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  Speaker 4: Time to time. Sure, amazing. That is all right. Oh,
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: by the way, Broncos three practices this week. Third practice
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: on Wednesday is now closed to the public. They've changed
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: their schedule up a little bit. They played Atlanta Friday night,
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: so they've altered the schedule. But today, guys, you know
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: who's at camp today? Allegedly according to d mac kay
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Adams is here, which means Sean Payne's gonna do a
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: lot of talking.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna get some some really lengthy answers today. Yeah,
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: for sure, dude, what are the odds that we have
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  Speaker 3: tomorrow a wealth of two minutes.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: We're gonna have a lot of elaborate Yeah, it's a
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: lot of topics tow uh wait, Sean said what wait
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: he did said, what A lot of that is gonna
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: be happening because it doesn't happen at the press conferences
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: after practice? We can, right, we and nothing, but it
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: will happen with her.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: I know you guys talked about this already, but just
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: in general, because the Rockies just can't seem to find
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: a way to close the game out because they're pitching stinks.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: What did you guys think of the trade deadline for him?
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: We talked about it, I mean, four trades, eight prospects.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: I was fine with it. I'm glad they didn't.
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: Trade sens Is gone. I'm I'm glad that that the catcher.
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: I'm glad the goodman stayed.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: What did you want more?
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: No, I was pretty happy with it. I just what's
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: funny is I thought Mickey moniac signing an extension of
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: what he said afterwards, was actually pretty cool, as he
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: was like, I want to be a part of this
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: turnaround here. And I think that, I mean, Moniac could
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: have easily been a guy that gets shipped off to
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: a contender somewhere and really help somebody out. But I
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: think he genuinely appreciated the fact that he was kind
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: of giving up on as a number one overall pick.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: They gave him a shot and he's like, thank you,
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: I want to stay. I think it's pretty cool.
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: Plus, you know what we need? The world needs more mickeys. True,
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: the world needs some good mickeys, do they not? Hey,
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: I got me I got another one for you. Go ahead,
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: question for you. Who is Michael Brennan. He's a golfer
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: with long sleeves, who was just hitting lasers yesterday. These
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: rookies on the PGA Tour are blowing my mind. Coy
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: even won a couple weeks ago, right, yeah, three, this kid,
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: this kid is twenty four years old. And I thought,
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: and by the way, who's Ben James? He finished third.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: He's a rookie. These guys are tearing it up out there.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: Nobody's playing in those some of those fields either. Yep,
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: it's still still you have a full field, get it. Yeah,
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's great to see. It's great to see
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: that he's young.
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: He's twenty four, played his college golf at Mother of
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: God Wake Forest.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: I'm looking at Michael Brennan's yardages for his clubs. All right,
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: just think about this. This is all sea level. This
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: isn't up here. Sea level hits his driver three thirty
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: three wood two ninety nine, three iron two seventy, hits
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: a three four iron two forty eight, five iron two
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: thirty nine. I was gonna say, you can do a
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: lot of this right here. You've got these distances. But
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: you're not on the PG tour. No sitting here, know
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: what I mean? Yeah, Brett his Brett opinion.
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: He's here down the middle, yours goes, your ball goes
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: to where the rabbits go anything.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: I don't see anything that says fairway in here to you.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: I don't see that you're where the rabbits go to die.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: And you know that. Does it say fairway on there?
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: Not?
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: Vic? No, But that's how far he hits his his irons.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: What do you guys think of this?
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: And we'll get some more audio Davis Webb talking about
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Jonah Coleman and the running backs.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: Are we in a running back renaissance? Now? Is that
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: officials again? Once that first Domino fl you saw quickly
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: give me or Gibbs went, I mean all the other.
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: Horses. If you have horses, please hold them. Yes, we're
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: big contracts with these three. But I would argue to
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: you that it's these three. It's because they're that special.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: Robinson's special, Gibbs is special, and Taylor special and you
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: know what their feat It's not gonna filter down to
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: the rest of the league. I'm telling you, because yeah,
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: these are featured really special backs. You know, you're your
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: average guys are still gonna get regular running back bread.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: That's just the way it is.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know, Like if you look around the league,
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, you're right, Mos, you have to be special
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: for it to happen. I guess what I'm saying is,
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: are people more willing to now as Arizona did this
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: this last draft to make the top five investment in
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: a running back now because that went away for a decade.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: In fact, you were seeing as stupid for doing that.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: The Falcons and Lions are both seeing as stupid. Like
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: you an eighth overall pick on Bejon Robinson's running back?
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: Good is he? Well? Yeah, it turns out they matter.
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: Like I told Brett the first time I saw Jamir
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: Gibbs play, I'm like, oh my god, the Lion's got
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: a stud.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: But you're like, these are feature backs? Would you consider
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: these guys feature backs? Look?
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: How many thousand yard rushers in the league last year?
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Seventeen of them? Seventeen?
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but those are good backs. But those guys are interchangeable.
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: The guys we're talking about who just got paid are
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: the cream of the crop.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: I have another Oh, by the way, go ahead, Oh
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: by the way. I saw some video from a college
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: can't remember the name of it, small college that did
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: the rookie haircuts, in this case freshman haircuts. Guys showed
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: up with all those massacred haircuts. Do you remember the
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: good old days here broncos some people then people had
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: the friar tuck. Let me tell you something. You missed it.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: This is before your time. I remember the monk haircut. Yeah,
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: but this was an annual deal where the happened to
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: me my freshman year. Yeah, rookies got haircuts. And there
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: are a lot of people listening right now who probably
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: hated it. Thought it was you know, borderline hazing would
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: define it. It is hasting. Is it's fun? Yeah? I
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: thought it was great. I miss it. I miss it
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: is who values their hair more than I do? Do
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: I value my hair? Yes? You do. If I enter
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: a rookie situation, have that. I gotta do what you
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: gotta do. Take it. I know this one. I'd love
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: to see you in a mohawk.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: Do they even like this wasn't mandated from the NFL
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: or anything that they can't do this anymore?
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: Was it? Or was it mandated? Stopped in a hurrying era,
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: stopped in a hurry. The remember remember the bullying that
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: went on in Miami between uh, you're in the breast
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: incognito and Jonathan Martin? Yes, was that Jonathan Martin? Was
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: that his name? And it sort of stopped. If it was,
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: that's a hell of a poll from me. God, that
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: might be a great pull. Hang on, let me look
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: it up. Yeah it up. Bullying is correct and Jonathan
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: Martin boom? How about that bullying between two lemon and
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: that marked the end of the hazy? Can they even
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: make the the rookies carry pads anymore? You haven't even
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: seen that. I don't know, because that was every year, right,
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: the rookies carry the vets pads back to the locker
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: room and huh.
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: Well when when Philip Lindsay was a rookie, his hair
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: was his calling card, right that fro so he begged
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: his teammates, please don't touch my hair his eyebrows.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can. You can ask for different things.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's hilarious and I miss it.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: I thought that story was gonna end with those guys
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: getting in trouble. They get in trouble for doing that
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: the college. No, okay, not only do they not get
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: in trouble, they they showed it off. They loved it.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: Okay, great, I mean you have to agree to it, right.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: I don't think if somebody was super against it, then
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: you probably can't do it. But you're also gonna be like,
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: don't be that guy. Just do the thing. Just do
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: the thing.
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: Oh, by the way, sports in the world, you can
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: shave any part of me.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: I don't care if shaved it all at one point or another.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: What about your soul patch? It's gone? You draw the
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: line there, it's gone. No, it's gone. It's been gone
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: for a week. It'll be back in in two days.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, bust your head. I've shaved my head.
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: Not only did I buzz it, but I had then
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: had a straight razor down to the skin.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: Ask you about your you had a bald a bald head,
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: sparkling bald hat. Yeah. Ask you about your soul patch? Yeah.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: Why when do you decide it's gone? Yeah, but it'll
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: be back. We know it will.
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: Capcious. When do you decide time? And when you decide
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: it's not Well, I have a little mirror in the shower. Yeah,
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: and I've got a couple of days without shaving. I
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: might look right there at the bottom of my left
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: and go, you know what, I like it. It's kind
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: of coming in better this time.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: Let's get it. Oh, why don't you just grow a beard?
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: Why do you go pound sand up your tail? It's
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: a weird response to just a simple question. Well you
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: give him a fist pump for that. It's good, it
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: was good. I liked it. I can't grow a beard,
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: well tried. These guys got they got this, and they're
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: gonna have to do it for me. They're the experts,
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: all right, back up, let me help you.