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Trekcast 365: Vulcan Munchies. How will the SAG-AFTRA strike impact conventions like STLV? · Star Trek Podcast: Trekcast

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Trek Cast, the Galaxy's most unpredictable Star Trek podcast. Burning and Aaron and
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Aron and Aaron and Aaron and there we are, There we are. We're
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back. We're back this time, We're back. Welcome to sixty six percent
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of Trek Cast, the Galaxy's most unpredictable Star Trek Podcast. I am one
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of your hosts. Dan Lombardo with me as always, Daniel, Yes,
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with us in spirit. Chad Waldo he's in the buffer, yeah, get
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him out later. He still thinks it's last week. That's right. No
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time, no time passes, not the buffer, that's right. So that's
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right. Oh tired, Yeah, tired. I'm so tired. I was
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on vacation last week. I wasn't here for the show. So you know,
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we we were down in New Jersey for a few days. We did
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the six Flags thing, took our pictures in the Hall of Justice. It
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was great. I put you know what, I posted a picture of that
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Hall of Justice in a DC Superpowers group and it's been liked fourteen thousand times
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and it's been shared. It's a public group, so anybody could share the
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post. It's been shared like fifteen hundred times. It's crazy. It's crazy.
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Yeah, So, I mean I'm tired from that. I'm also tired.
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Um. You know, I enrolled my son in karate a couple of
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weeks ago, and I and I sat through a couple of classes watching him,
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and it's the same exact style of karate that I took in nineteen ninety
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four. I'm dating myself here. In nineteen ninety four, I started studying
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pseudo, which just Korean Korean karate, and after sitting through a few classes,
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I was like, you know what, I could do this again,
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So I signed up. I've been to a couple of classes and it's it's
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great. I'm having a blast, but I am so sore. You're not
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in there with the kids, are you. Uh yeah, I mean I'm
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just throwing around ten year olds. No no, no, no, no
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no no no no no, no, no, no no, there are
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other adults. I'm in the I'm in the rear of the class with the
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other adults. He's in the front of the class with the kids. I'm
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not kicking the crab out of nine year olds, although I mean that would
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do a lot for my ego, you know, like, well, I'm
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really good at this. I kicked that guy. Spot. Just hand me
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that black belt. Yeah, oberkaber Kai, yep, those kids. No
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mercy. We don't train to be merciful here, No, not at all.
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But it's good. It's uh, you know, I I struggle with
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staying in in in shape, and I found that, um, like when
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I attend any sort of yeah right, like Kramer and Seinfeld, thanks whenever
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I whenever I attend any paramilitary type training, that's that's the type of exercise
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that gets me into shape. Yeah. So you know, it's one thing
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to exercise yourself. It's another thing when someone's standing behind you. Scene do
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this, do it twenty times, good job, that's twenty more so.
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Um, it's it's fun. It's fun. I'm motivated for now. They
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gave me the fancy they gave me the fancy pajamas. Son, I have
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matching pajamas now. So you know how long till you and your son joined
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the kumata the what I don't know what that is? You never seen blood
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sport like in nineteen eighty nine, maybe right. You know what's great though,
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I you know, I told them that I studied this style of karate
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twenty nine years ago, and they you know, they quizzed me a little
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bit to make sure I wasn't full of crap, right, and uh,
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you know, they said I could retain my old rank, that I could
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attend a few classes and then you know, to show them that I,
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you know, can still do some of it, and uh, they'll put
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me back where I was, so I don't have to start over. So
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were you starting it? Well? Right now, I'm still a white belt
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because you know, they want to they want to see you do some stuff.
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But I should be a green belt shortly. Yeah, I'm excited.
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I'm excited. Cool, Well we should What about you? What's what's going
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on with you? Talk for ten minutes? Yeah, yeah, not too
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much really, just getting ready for the convention. So I've been been really
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looking into the strike to find out what's going on. Yeah I know,
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yeah, that's on a lot of Buddy's head. So, uh, is
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that is that the news story or are we just yeah, yeah, well
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let's get news all right. So yeah, the big news story is the
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strike. So I've got a lot of things here laid out, So let
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me start. Well, I you know, I know a little bit about
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the strike. Yeah, no, it's strike first strike, hard mercy.
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That's right, we got that covered. Next story. I believe that is
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what they are chanting in the picket line. Yeah, it's it's pretty it's
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pretty wild. Um. So, as people know, the the Writer's Guild
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has been on strike for a while now a few months and now sag after
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the Actor's Guild is also now on strike, and so this is impacting a
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lot. A lot of productions have gone dark. Like I know they said
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Deadpool three is stop shooting. Basically everything has stopped just about. Um,
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I know that House of the Dragon season two is still being shot, and
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that's because those actors are in smaller unions that are local to those areas.
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So what is that House to the Dragone? Is that it's it's the Game
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of Thrones spin off. Okay, that's on HBO. Okay yeah, and
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then, um, the other thing that I have read is there are still
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some other smaller films still going. Apparently if you're an independent filmmaker and if
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you file paperwork with the union, you can still do your movie because their
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their strike is with the big studios not Yeah. So okay, yeah,
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so there we go. Um, but I did reach out to Creation who
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puts on STLV, and I asked them how this will impact the convention because
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according to Variety, the the actors can't go to conventions. That, Yeah,
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there's a lot of there's a lot of conflicting information out there right now.
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Yeah, and and nobody. The real answer is nobody's one hundred percent
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clear. They're still trying to figure it out. But Creation put out a
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statement. They emailed me this and they said, in regards to the SAG
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after strike, Creation Entertainment, live events and conventions will continue as planned and
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do not fall under strike restrictions. If there are any changes to the above,
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we will announce them moving forward. Yeah, they're gonna announce it the
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day before when everybody's already in town. Yeah, they're gonnounce it. Yeah.
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Yeah. So so then trekmovie dot com put out a big article.
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I'm gonna link to it in the show notes. It basically is how the
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strike impacts everything down to current productions of Star Trek. Anything that's currently filming
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is done for now. The the animated stuff may or may not be impacted.
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It's still kind of up in the air. If those actors are also
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in this in the Acting Guild, not the Voice Actors Guild, then maybe
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we're not doing stuff. So yeah, it just kind of depends. Yeah
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yeah, but as far as well and and the other thing is how strikes
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work sometimes is these other unions may get involved just to show support and solidarity
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exactly. You know, this could be a domino effect where all of a
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sudden, the Sound Guys union, it's like, yeah, you know what,
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we're not doing anything either. Yeah, and the I don't know,
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the Key Grips do they have a union? They do actually union? Yeah?
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Yeah yeah. So um so according to the Trick Movie article, uh,
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so far what it looks like as far as they can tell um At
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conventions, the actors can still do like the photo ops and autographs, yeah,
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because those are considered personal appearances. However, panels would likely be impacted.
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They could not talk about upcoming projects or current projects. So it might
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be that they have a panel there's a big announcement, Hey you can't answer,
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you can't ask these questions, and there you go. Yeah. So
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I'm wondering how much how much mental gymnastics they're going to do to get around
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some of these restrictions. Like I could see Anson Mount coming out and saying,
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hey, guys, great to see everyone. Glad to see you all
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here in Las Vegas. You're all aware of the writer strike, so when
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we get to the question phase, feel free to ask me about anything but
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season two or three of Strange New Worlds, right right, So, um,
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let's I've got some video prison or presentations here, so let me uh
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go with this. So let's find out what's going on, because there was
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actually a convention this weekend in Orlando. I've been keeping an eye on it,
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you know. It's it's it's the Diaries. I'm sorry, it's what
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the Vampire Diaries. Oh well, I mean you were going to go to
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that anyway. So it really wasn't a big goes me or that, you
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know. But this is actually a pretty good canary in the coal mine for
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us because our own Captain Kirk was in the Vampire Diaries. Paul Wesley,
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Oh yeah, I didn't know that. That's him. That's him, that's
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him right now. He doesn't He doesn't look like Jim Carrey at all in
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this one. It's a lot of photoshop on there but him, and that's
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Ian summer Hall. Yeah. I had to look them up. The one
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that's not Captain Kirk. Okay, I mean, would I know him from
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anything other than Vampire Diaries? Probably not? Okay, that's his big thing.
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But so the two of them were supposed to be basically the headliners of
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this event, right, that's them Big and Brett. I also discovered,
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having looking this all up, the two of them have a Bourbon line together.
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Okay, so there you go. So I just wanted to show this.
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You know that they're the big headliners. They're supposed to be there according
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to the advertisement. Right. So then I found in summerholtz Instagram account because
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I wanted to show any evidence that he was there or not. Right,
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ye, So according to his Instagram, he is in Florida. He brought
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a bunch of his bourbon. Apparently they were selling drinks at the convention.
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There he is with all their bourbon. It's called Brothers Bond Bourbon, and
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he's very excited about it. So cool. So he's he's in Orlando's He's
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good to go. I even saw pictures of the drinks that said made with
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Brothers Bond Bourbon. So great. However, Creation has been trying to prove
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that everything's just fine. So their Twitter account has been nothing but any actor
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who would show up. Yeah, So if Ian and Paul were there,
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they most definitely would be in these photos. Yeah, but as you see
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scrolling through, they're not Yeah, they're not at all. It's the smaller
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sideline actors who were there who apparently took to the panels, and that is
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who showed up. M yes, yeah, so the trek Cast, Blood
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Wine brand nice. Oh I guess Ian was also in Lost, so there
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you go. Oh yeah, so there have been some other um like uh
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answer. Mount came out and also said that because originally he thought that he
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could go to conventions just fine, but he has since come out and said
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that he has learned that it's not exactly one hundred percent clear, and apparently
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the convention owners and the union are currently talking to figure out ground rules,
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so hopefully that changes soon. I feel like, I feel like the universe
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does not want us to go to this convention. Universe has something against treck
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Cast returning to its spawning point, right right, we cannot go back to
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the home water yeah of Las Vegas. Um Also Penny Johnson, who played
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Cassidy Yates and ye forget her character's name in The Orville she had posted on
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Instagram that one she's going to be at STLV um, but you know that
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was also during all the confusion, and so I guess we'll see. Well,
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I mean again, you know her connection is Deep Space nine, which
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has been off the air for twenty five years, right, and The Orville,
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which has not been confirmed for another season, right, So you know
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her projects are over. Yeah, everything for her is historical, so she
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could talk about whatever she wants. And if people say, what are you
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working on next? You know, it's really easy to say, let's talk
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about that next year, yeah, because nobody wants to hear about that anyway.
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There just being polite. Yeah, yeah, So um, that's where
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we're at with things. So it's very much we have to keep an eye
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on it. We'll see what's going on. Um. But if the actors
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don't go, if a lot of them, because from what I've read,
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it's a lot of if they feel comfortable or if they don't just skip it,
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So it could be that a lot of them skip it, you know.
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Yeah, Um, I guess we'll see. But are there other are
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there other conventions between now and then for us to keep an eye on and
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see how they how they go. Well, there's comic Con. Yeah,
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but everybody pretty much pulled out a comic CON's right, and a lot of
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the actors for an unknown reason, I don't know why. Well, and
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specifically SAG has already said don't go to comic Con because comic Con is just
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a commercial at this point, right, So, so they're not going to
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that by default. Um no, No, I mean even the studios.
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I remember, you know, for the last month or two hearing about you
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know, Marvel is not doing anything at comic Con and uh, you know
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yeah, and that's been for a few reasons. One is that the studios
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love doing their own conventions now, like they're D twenty three's and all that.
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Um so, so they'd rather do that, they'd rather not share the
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news cycle with the other studios. Um yeah, no DC, as Jaspis
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says, yes, they're not. But the other thing is the um yeah.
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The other thing though, is the writer strike's been going for a while,
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so projects have been positive no matter what, right because no developments happening.
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So that that's kind of the other reason why they all pulled out a
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comic Con. But now with the strike, it's kind of like their bigger
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excuse um as far as STLV and and and Comic Con, though producers can
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still go as long as they're not also on SAG. So you know,
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at STLV we could get the current it's been power hour and talk about you
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know, everything that's going on, Yeah, what everybody wants. I don't
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know. Yeah, I might jump off the top of the stratosphere if I
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have to sit through an hour that allybody several hours because they got time to
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fill um. So I haven't looked at my itinerary in a while. I
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don't remember exactly what dates I'm out there, but I may end up plowing
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it back a little bit, yeah, because I know, I you know,
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I know I'm there for the four days of the convention, and I
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scheduled a significant amount of time I don't remember if it was before or after
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to do other vacation e type vegacy type stuff. And not to put too
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fine a point on it, but if the convention sucks, I'm not going
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to stay there for ten hours a day. Yeah, we'll go do other
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fun things were while we're out there, which means I won't need to be
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there another three or four days. Well that that and Like my thought was,
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if it's gonna suck, I don't want to pay for three days of
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the convention. So just walk around and middle around. I'll pay for a
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day. We go, spend one day there and then you know, did
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we did you buy tickets to the convention? Yeah? I already did.
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Yeah, Oh I did too, Yeah I think Yeah, I don't know.
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I gotta go look at it was months ago all this stuff. Yeah,
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well, I mean it's paid. What's paid for is paid for.
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They're not going to give you a refund. I know. I know.
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They'll give you a now I've been down this road with them before, give
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you a Yeah, they'll give you a Creation Entertainment gift card. It's like,
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what am I gonna do with this? Oh you can buy a million
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autographs? Yeah I know? And yeah yeah, well if it's that convention
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and we refund a couple of days, that's a couple of autographs. Yeah,
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that's true. I don't know if they're gonna I don't know if they're
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gonna yeah, I don't know. I don't know if they're gonna give be
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anything. But you know what the other thing is, um, you know,
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the convention is not just about the actors, right, it's about the
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other fans. So I'm looking forward to seeing other fans. I'm looking forward
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to surrounding myself with five thousand other people who love Star Trek uh just as
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much as I do. So and you know, I'm still going, yeah,
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yeah, yeah, for sure, still going, still gonna do my
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best to enjoy it. Well, now it may be less people because they
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all may be like, oh, the actors aren't gonna be there to forget
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it. Yeah yeah, all right. So that's that's the latest on the
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strike. I play blackjack too. That dab dabo. We'll find a dabo
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table. There we go. Our next news story comes to us from trekmovie
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dot com and Star Trek piccard has been nominated for two Emmys. So the
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Emmy nominations came out earlier this week. It feels like a million years ago,
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but yes they did. And so Star Trek McCard was nominated for two
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Emmys for Outstanding Contemporary Makeup Non Prosthetic and then also for Outstanding Prosthetic Makeup.
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So there you go. That's their two and only Emmy. Yeah yeah,
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yeah, So a lot of people thought they'd get more than that, but
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yeah, such is not the case. I mean not to take it dump
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on the people who did makeup for Star Trek piccard, but you know we
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don't. We don't talk about the makeup on this show once a week,
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right, right. It's not one of the high awards for sure. Yeah.
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Yeah, so disappointing. I thought they could have gotten something at least.
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But yeah, And our last new story comes to us from Digital Spy
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and Star Trek Strange New World's Ants Amount addresses mcu return. Apparently he did
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an interview recently before the strike and he was talking about all sorts of different
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things, and he did mention that he would love to come back as Black
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Bolt. That nothing is going on so far. He is not in any
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talks with Marvel. He did mention, and he kind of gave the cheek
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code here. He said that if if he was in conversations with them,
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he would have to say that he could not say anything. But since he
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is not in conversations with he is free to say that he is not in
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conversations. So there you go. That is the cheek out, like saying,
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you know, I'm telling the truth and I'm not lying about that.
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That's right, that's the logic work. Yeah, yeah, I just thought
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it was funny. But yeah, so that's all our news stories. Okay,
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yeah, all right, main topic. Sure, fun will now so
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confession, Oh okay, only watched it once this week. I've been Yeah,
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I've been so busy. I didn't do my I didn't do my quick
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reaction. I've been a bad boy. I've been Yeah. No, you're
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not the only one who's given up on the quick reactions. I didn't.
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I didn't give up. I didn't give up. Okay, I didn't get
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to it this week. Fully intended two just didn't happen. My uh,
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my iPad has given me the hey you're low on power thing, So it's
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plugged in. It's plugged in. Um, I'm gonna plug it into a
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different chord because that one's frayed. Well, let me read the uh the
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log line while you're doing that. So episode two five Sharradeum. The log
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line is a shuttle accident leads to spots vulcan DNA being removed by aliens,
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making him fully human and completely unprepared to face Tupring's family during an important ceremonial
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dinner. M Yeah, so there you go. This was another episode of
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Hijinks to Happen between the the Tapril and spok episodes. Yeah, yeah,
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So what did you think of it? You know, it was fun.
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I had fun watched it. Um. You know, I don't mind Star
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Trek comedy when Star Trek is the comedy when they're when they're making fun of,
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you know, the franchise itself. You know, someone from the outside
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who's never seen Star Trek before and doesn't know what a vulcan is, they
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don't get the jokes in this episode. And that's why I'm okay with it.
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It's not comedy for comedy's sake. It's comedy because you understand it,
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because you understand these characters and you understand these themes and what's going on in
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this universe. So that kind of comedy, you know, I enjoy that.
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Yeah, I enjoy that, you know. I mean, it's things
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as simple as and I think I've said this before, but you know Captain
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Bicard nervously talking to the Admiral while there's a Captain Bicard, Captain Bcard day
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banner in the background, right, and then he nervously says, I'm a
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role model and she's like, yeah, you certainly are, and hangs up
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the phone. You know that kind of comedy if you don't know who he
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is, you don't know how uncomfortable he is around children in social settings.
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You know that kind of comedy. I'm okay with. Yeah, the comedy
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I based out of the situation, not to make fun of it. Yes,
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yeah, yes, you know Spock gorging himself on on bacon, but
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first acknowledging what that amazing smell is, you know, And and at first
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you're like, all right, so he's never had bacon because he's a vulcan.
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No, he's never had bacon because Vulcans are vegetarians. And the idea
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of a vegetarian suddenly shoving bacon in his face because it smells amazing, you
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know that his TV mom or the same age, it seems that way.
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She looks like Amy Adams. Yeah, kind of. Every time I look
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at her, I'm like, is that it? No, it's not it?
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Is it? No? Oh no, it's not. So I did
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have one problem here, Um to Pring's dad is um, well, I
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mean, obviously, to Pring's mom, where's the ears in the family.
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That's that's easy enough to that's easy enough to see, but he seemed pretty
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emotional. Yeah, especially especially when his wife is standing there giving the second
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lead on our show The Business for not being vulcan enough. I mean,
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just like when he got excited about the food, yeah, and whatnot.
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Excitement is an emotion, and you know, I like the little the little
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comedy, like when he asks for more of the whatever they was, you
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know, yeah, when he's like, do you have any more of those
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red lobster cheddar biscuits? And Pike is just like he snaps his fingers and
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what's like, I got you like this? I get a handle this.
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He wants biscuits. I'll go get a biscuits, you know, just seeing
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the excitement in Pike's face that you know, the you know, you know
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the mom to Pring's mom took a crap all over the meal right right to
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see that. The other guy is like, you know, no, this
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is good. I'm just you know, a complete cuck or whatever the word
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is that I hear. Yeah, yeah, he wanted yeah, and the
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guy was he was clearly more laid back and just wanted to have fun and
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yeah, so yeah yeah, um ty Jay says the first three episodes were
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pretty poor, but the last two have been a return to form. Yeah,
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I don't know, pretty poor, but yes, a dip. Yeah,
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a dip. I would say it tip, Yeah, but I would
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I would say it dip. Jasmins typical mother in law. Yeah yeah,
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yeah she was. She was not fun. Yeah, but yeah. Um
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I also thought the episode was a lot of fun. Um. I did
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see an article that I thought was kind of interesting. I forget where I
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saw the article, but um. They said that one of the things that
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was really special about this episode is Vulcans have always been more or less um
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coded for for neurodivergion or autistic, and really that's how some people feel it
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about it. And so when Spok had that vulcanness removed and he was more
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outgoing and funny and emotional that none of the characters said, hey, you're
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better now, we like you more now. They all kind of were like,
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we miss spokor great the way you were. So the articles saying like
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it was cool to show that, you know, so I thought that was
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neat Okay, yeah, oh so there you go. Brunson looked up the
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ages spoks mom is forty eight ethan fact Spok is thirty. So yeah,
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I mean the numbers track. So Spock screaming into a pillow. Yeah,
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that's what I mean. That that type of comedy. Okay, anybody gets
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he's mad, he's in the next room. He doesn't want them to hear
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he's screaming into a pillow. It's funny on the surface, it's funny or
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knowing that he is a vulcan. He is a vulcan and shouldn't have any
29:22
reaction and should not have been doing any of that. Yeah. Yeah,
29:27
um, I did you know, as I suffered for the people. I
29:30
watched the Jess Bush interview on the Will Wheaton Show. She talked a little
29:36
bit about this episode. One of the things that thought was interesting is she
29:40
talked about that, you know in the in the end where the climax where
29:45
she goes to talk to those aliens blue and yellow and all those yea.
29:48
Um. She said that that scene was shot months later because they shot it
29:56
completely out of order. Okay, And so I thought that was kind of
29:59
cool. Also kind of to my theory about Hey, everything with Pike in
30:02
the first part of the season, they kind of shot around. Um.
30:06
The other thing she said is because they were using the the volume or whatever
30:11
that they called the paramount version of it. Um with the big wall behind
30:15
them. Oh okay, yeah, they basically had a screen saver behind them
30:18
the way that it was all animating. Yea, um, and the camera
30:23
adjusts to where wherever she says. That thing just really messed with the peripherals
30:30
for them because it was so like water just about that. Yeah, it
30:34
really took it out of them. So yeah, okay, yeah, but
30:41
um yeah. We did see also a big development for Spock and Nurse Chapel
30:47
this episode, as to as Spoking to bring her now on a break and
30:52
so break that's right, just just like in Friends and uh and there we
31:00
go, Spok and Nurse Chapel got together. So I saw a meme where
31:07
they replaced Spok's little beanie cap there with with the old um yes, the
31:14
Spok helmet from the same yea, what was that? I just hit my
31:18
thing? Oh all right, I thought that was for mood or something like.
31:23
But they replaced his hat with that Spok helmet toy. That made no
31:30
sense. So they you know, they missed, they missed an opportunity to
31:33
bring it into live action cannon oh the go, But there you go.
31:37
I did see one where it was that where he's like, oh, it's
31:40
regulation, he's got that helmet, and then it cuts to Pike also wearing
31:44
it. He's like, yeah, it's regulation. So there's been some great
31:49
memes about that at Yeah. But um, yeah, man, what do
31:53
you think is gonna happen moving forward? Because if they're together, that's a
31:57
different dynamic. So here's the thing. Yeah, Um, a month ago,
32:06
I would have said, well, we know it's not going to work
32:07
out because we know how things go and they don't end up together. But
32:17
also, you know, con is nine years old in twenty twenty three,
32:22
so we're we're watching an alternate timeline. So yeah, see that sounded like
32:29
a gong I think the next matches starting, Oh yeah, the Gong show
32:32
there you go? Or is that the next match from uh? Was it
32:37
a mock time where they we're fighting on the right bump bump, bump bump.
32:46
Yeah. So I don't know. They've kind of threw us a curveball
32:50
with this reviving the temporal Cold War idea, and I'm not so certain that
32:58
we know how everything's going to work out, which is kind of counter to
33:07
what Season one showed us that Pike has this fate that he just cannot escape
33:12
no matter what he does, and if he does, it's going to muck
33:15
up the timeline. Well what difference does it make? Right as of last
33:21
week, there's there's hundreds of people mucking up the timeline all over the place.
33:24
So who's to say that this is the one true timeline? So I
33:30
don't know. Yeah, they are unshackled by Cannon. Indeed they are.
33:36
They can literally do anything they want as they've always wanted. Yeah, yeah,
33:40
so it's uh, I guess we'll see. I don't know how I
33:46
feel about like having a couple on the Enterprise and like, are they going
33:53
to do weird hijinks where they're randomly making out all the time or you know,
33:59
Um, I don't know. We haven't seen the fallout from this episode
34:07
yet. Sure, am I imagine that Spot is pretty embarrassed about the events
34:16
of this episode now that he's vulcan again and he has the memories of what
34:22
he did as a human for those three days or whatever it was. Yeah,
34:25
I imagine he's even I imagine he's he's embarrassed and he's going to redouble
34:32
his efforts to be the vulcanist vulcan that he can, other than laying it
34:39
to Christine after work in his quarters or her quarters or whatever private place they
34:47
can secure. It was weird to me how much he forgot about being a
34:53
vulcan once that DNA got out of him, Like he didn't know how the
34:58
ritual worked. He didn't, you know, Um, what do you mean
35:05
he didn't know how the ritual works? What do you mean by that?
35:07
Because they were His mom was like, okay, at this point of the
35:10
dinner, this happens. At that point of the dinner, that happens.
35:15
I don't, yeah, okay, Like he didn't know. I didn't.
35:19
I didn't get that feeling that he didn't know. I got the feeling that
35:22
they were doing dry runs to practice because you know, he's you know,
35:29
I likened it to um, you know, when a woman is pregnant and
35:35
she has all these different hormones going through her body and it affects her personality,
35:39
and she's crying about things that she wouldn't normally cry about, or she's
35:44
appreciative of things that she wouldn't normally be appreciative of. I kind of likened
35:49
it to that, he's just super emotional, right because he's We know,
35:52
he's always had emotions. It's true, and they always had emotions. Um,
35:58
they're just not in check anymore, right because he's because he's human.
36:05
Yeah, like his his mind is used to suppressing vulcan emotions. And sure,
36:13
you know now I have human emotions. I've never tried to suppress human
36:16
emotions before. This is different. This is difficult, and my brain chemistry
36:21
is different. My brain is physically different. I have a human brain now,
36:24
I don't have a vulcan human hybrid brain. Right, So yeah,
36:31
I guess I don't know. Maybe I just misread it, you know.
36:36
Then again, I only watched it once. I could be completely wrong.
36:38
Sameyically, that's all I do. I'll watch it again. Didn't watch him
36:44
say, uh yeah, I don't remember any of this shit. I'd be
36:46
like, all right, I guess Daniel was right. I was wrong there.
36:52
Yeah, I guess we'll see. But I just also watched the preview
36:55
for next week. There's kind of, um, you know, not much
36:59
to that review. M Pelly's back, Carol Kane. So that's basically it.
37:07
They're working on some engineering problem in the preview. Okay, yeah.
37:14
Um, yeah, anything else you want to bring about the episode before we
37:17
go? No, I mean I'm probably forgetting a bunch. Like I said,
37:23
I only watched it once, but I'll watch it again. Let's see,
37:28
I did find a list of um Easter eggs, so let me go
37:32
through this real quick. Yeah. Um, the Vulcan Science Academy, which
37:37
has been mentioned in multiple things, that's true. Um, the Archaeological Medicine
37:45
was something from the original series, something that was mentioned. So cool.
37:51
I like how the guy from the Science Academy was really interested in her discovery
37:57
and she was like, yeah, f you you can read the paper like
38:00
everybody else. Yeah, yeah, yeah, good for her. Yeah um
38:07
yeah. Basically that's it. We've we've covered the main ones. So well
38:12
let's let's get to feedback. We have some people already waiting ready to go,
38:15
so all right, hey, if I uh, if I lose power,
38:27
I'll be back on a device. Just just hank tight. Sounds good?
38:30
All right, Well, let's get a chasmins up and up in here.
38:35
Since he was first there he is. There's nice like he's about to
38:39
land a plane. What's going on? Man? Ad on much? It's
38:50
like this writer's strike and actors strike kind of sucks. Well, just so
38:55
you know that the Treck cast riders are the remaining on the job. It's
39:01
not unionized. I guess no, we're just a bunch of scabs. Yeah
39:07
yeah, because that's gonna mess up like a bunch of the Star Trek things
39:13
coming up. Well, what's different is this is next year last writers strike,
39:17
which is in the early two thousands, because that happened mid season for
39:22
a lot of things. So at least like now, well now we're in
39:27
the universe, so there's really not a mid season anymore because it's it's kind
39:31
of these show's premiere different times of the year. That's true. The other
39:38
thing I was reading is that, um, the studios don't want to like
39:42
hurry up and end this thing. Their their goal is to starve everyone out.
39:45
Yeah. Um, they're not expected to go back to the to the
39:51
negotiating table, to the fall. So this this could be a long thing.
39:57
I'm wondering if the I think they're gonna end at the same time I
40:01
think they're gonna yeah yeah, Um, I'm wondering if we're going to get
40:08
something from the unions asking asking us to pitch in and cancel our all our
40:15
streaming, uh well our streaming, at which point, um, you know,
40:25
like I'm teetering on the cliff. I just need someone to suggest that
40:30
to me, and I'll go kids l half of these things yea from being
40:36
canceled for me. Yeah, so there are there are some I mean nobody's
40:40
said this, but there are people talking about how a lot of these studios
40:45
aren't just a studio anymore, right, They're part of a giant conglomerate.
40:51
So the reason they're fighting so hard against this strike is they don't want their
40:55
other industries impacted because then those workers could see what happened for the Hollywood workers
41:01
and then all of a sudden, you know, like Amazon, right,
41:04
they've been fighting unions for a while now, if all of a sudden their
41:07
actors make a lot more money, that's gonna inspire the warehouse. That's that's
41:15
the fear. But yeah, I guess we'll see, Yeah, exactly.
41:21
Well, it just sucks for development for next year because on these strange New
41:25
World's going to be pushed back next year, and then um, lower decks
41:30
because of the animation lower dex might be okay or pretty close to it.
41:36
Well, well they have you can't act. I understand that maybe the acting
41:40
part, but the writing part because you didn't have to animate. That animation
41:45
takes so long to do to animate, so you have to write it well
41:49
in advance. So it could be at the stage where they're just finishing up
41:53
the animation and need to edit, So we might be okay, because to
41:59
get to the animation you need to record all the lines ahead of time,
42:01
so all that audio would be done, all the storyboards would be done.
42:06
It's just putting it together at this point, so we might get lower DECKX
42:10
unless those other unions jump in, right, that's the thing. Yeah,
42:16
like the animators right now, they're they're underpaid, and then all the CG
42:22
artists they're they're always getting fired from jobs. So I could say them unitizing
42:27
and creating havoc. I did read that what is it? Disney is going
42:34
to put Miss Marble on Miss Marvel and ABC because they need new content for
42:39
their TV network. So they do have a backlog of shows that they can
42:44
throw on the Mandalorian on there, and yeah they could on ABC just get
42:50
people watching, right, and that would be all brand new content for the
42:53
for the TV. So they've got some some reasons to hold out as well.
42:58
So it's gonna be the same thing with CBS, and showed what the
43:04
audiences starts showing the star treks on there, I mean the Last Strike Parent
43:07
or during COVID Paramount aired one season of Discovery. They can go back to
43:10
that. Well, they've got all the strange worlds, they've got all Discovery
43:15
and they're they're good in that respect. Yeah. So yeah, and you
43:22
got all the Tyler shirt and shows. You can show all the yellow Stones
43:27
and all the yellow Stones Tyler, I forget whatever he makes cowboys shows.
43:36
Scott says, what up nerds? Up nerds? Oh, I gotta say
43:40
this because it staring me in the face. Scott sent me some class playing
43:45
cards and they are fantastic. So yes, thank you very much for these.
43:52
Scott made most about him in the group. But yeah, we're gonna
43:57
what are we gonna play? Oh man, go fish? Sure, old
44:04
maid? Who's the joker? Uh? That one is gentry okay, But
44:14
the one everyone seems to like is the queen. And then Scott also made
44:23
himself the Queen is great great oh and the Queen Queen of Trucks, the
44:35
Queen of dreck ass next week. Next week, I'm gonna remind him that
44:42
he's the queen of treck cast. Absolutely, let's find a sect or something,
44:47
a crown and acepter that might be a T shirt. Chad the Queen
44:52
of dreck Cass. Hey, since you're since, since you're hosting this stream
44:59
yard think and you can you edit our names or can we only edit our
45:04
names? Could you edit his name to be to be uh yeah, try
45:07
minus if you hit a mine or something, Chad Chadwin, Queen Chadwin of
45:12
truck Casts. Doesn't look like it. Oh it's too badly would be so
45:17
funny. Just changed his name on there, all right, by Scott see
45:22
yuh all right, So jazz Biz, would you think of the episode?
45:25
I liked it and it's like remind me of like, well, kind of
45:30
like the old episodes. So used to like the Farrangie episodes. Anytime you
45:37
like Cork and Odo would be doing something, I'd be kind of funny or
45:40
are the magnificent Pharrangie, Like there's always funny stuff on Today's nine. That's
45:46
the great episode. I love that one. Yeah, And that's what it
45:52
kind of reminded me of and and like Voyager had some of them, so
45:55
didn't you know t and like the holiday episodes like anytime would be a little
46:01
crazy, and this one was like, Ah, it's like we're kind of
46:07
having fun with the episode. And that's what I miss is about episodic television
46:14
instead of serialized, that you could do episode like this and have fun,
46:19
where Discovery was too much emotions and this is whatever, Like you could show
46:25
different planets, have fun, different characters, and then we're getting to know
46:31
more of the cast too, which is nice. Yeah, that's true,
46:35
we are getting to know them better. Yeah, I gotta say it's toal
46:38
On man, she's been in every episode or a law On Yeah, law
46:45
has been I don't think of to Prink and lat On has been in every
46:50
episode she has. Yeah, I was like, so her focus like has
46:58
been mainly on her all seasons. So I wonder if something's gonna happen with
47:02
the Gorn. Maybe maybe you're just gonna get that. I'm just gonna get
47:07
that uh union thing spinoff that everyone's been asked before. Oh yeah, she'll
47:13
be in that section thirty one spin off that they keep talking about. All
47:17
these we could spin off Are they gonna blame it on the on the writers
47:22
strike? Are they finally gonna put a put a put a fork in that
47:24
one? I mean, this could kill Star Trek Academy or serf let Academy.
47:30
Yeah, and I think that's gonna kill a bunch of these shows,
47:31
like the Marble shows. It's gonna kill. It's gonna kill like Star Wars
47:38
movie shows, anything they have predicted by the futures. Honestly, Manny could
47:44
kill it kill, it could kill Legacy. Any hopes for that? Yeah,
47:49
Yeah, that's that's the one everybody wants right now, is Legacy.
47:52
That's when everyone wants, and it may not happen. We gotta accept that.
47:57
We got spoking and being eat this episode because trad no ears. And
48:01
I guarantee you they're gonna sell that beanie. So yeah, it's fine,
48:07
I'm down. I'll buy the beanie. I love a good beanie. Yeah,
48:12
I mean, I've got a beanie, but it's it's different. Yeah,
48:15
yeah, Jasmine, anything else we should I like that Sparkles ocd this
48:24
episode. Yeah, he couldn't stand hurt, just leaving his crash out yep.
48:34
And that was great because he's just like enjoy all that trash. Yes,
48:38
it's like you throw that crap away. It's like my wife getting onto
48:45
me. Go an welcome to the therapy, Chasmin. Yes, yes,
48:55
sleep, she's not worker, so don't worry. All right, Well,
49:01
awesome man, Well thanks for being on the show. We should pivot though,
49:06
because we have also apparently Ross is here with us. Nice were on
49:16
a break, that's right. Oh yeah, the first thing I thought of
49:23
when I saw that, Oh dude, that is at my My neighbor is
49:30
walking up to my my front door to drop something off. And it's the
49:35
neighbor who listens to the show, so you know, he knows exactly what's
49:38
going on. Nice Nice. Uh, what do you think of the episode?
49:46
I liked it. Um, I think probably wasn't the wrong spot in
49:52
the season because usually follow up some like an episode like this after a pretty
49:58
heavy episode or something. Last week was was okay, I think as far
50:02
as mix up, but I'm just thinking how much comedy they have planned this
50:07
season, and especially with the Lower Decks cross overcoming and what seasons episode seven.
50:13
Yeah, I think they were yeah, just kind of aligning it.
50:16
But now I was I was thinking that it was a theory. I house
50:21
already wonders were we done that much of a high coming off of such a
50:25
great episode or season of that Picard season three, that it's kind of painting
50:31
our perception of how strange New Worlds has been, and as that wears off,
50:38
the episodes are getting better. So I'm kind of curious if I go
50:42
back and watch it at the end of the season and we watch it,
50:45
if I opinions would change in the first half, I guess I would say,
50:47
but this episode was great. Um, Yeah, I think there's a
50:53
couple of things. I think, Dan, you mentioned the the Spring's dad
50:58
where he did see less Vulcan than I would have expected. Yeah, but
51:02
I'm wondering if it kind of works though, because Dupring's not a typical Vulcan,
51:07
especially that she's okay with the human stuff or spots half human sights.
51:13
So I wonder if you know the reason why Duprill is the way she is
51:16
is because she's kind of overcompensating in that sense. Well, there's also people,
51:22
there's also people in this world who are not happy unless they're miserable,
51:25
So you know, she may she may be the type of wife that that's
51:30
her existence it's given her husband shit and that's what makes her happy that I
51:37
do wax on wax. Let me tell you something. Yes, it's it's
51:44
it's tough. It's tough being in a karate studio wearing a karate uniform and
51:50
your name is Daniel. It was tough the first time, and it's tough
51:53
twenty nine years later to get a little drum and there was a little a
52:00
little drum focus you. Okay, you know what. I'm gonna learn a
52:06
whole bunch of stuff between now in August. They're gonna kick your ass with
52:09
it when I'm gonna get when done correctly, No can defend No can defend
52:23
you. Guys didn't teach you everything though, No, it's right. I
52:30
spent some time in u o'kanella to learn all the rest of it. That's
52:35
next summer, Yeah, summer, Oh boy. Yeah, I don't know.
52:44
I was planning to go a stov but I did have a vacation um
52:49
that we were family vacation on leaving Sunday. So I don't know if I'm
52:52
going to be. That's where I'm kind of been more on the fence now
52:55
than I was, So we'll see. Yeah, But if anything, I
53:00
I was printing out some stuff for you folks, but if anything, I
53:02
may have to mail it, so we'll see, okay, okay, but
53:07
yeah, I guy separately. I don't know it's gonna be. I honestly
53:09
think stov is gonna be one of those things that we just had to keep
53:13
an eye on and see what's going on. But yeah, you know my
53:19
forty I have a forty hour cancelation. We'll see at the room. So
53:22
there you go, there you go. Yeah, I think I have a
53:28
twenty four hour cancelation process policy. But yeah, Dan said that he is
53:36
going to minimize his stay most likely, and I might do the same thing,
53:42
honestly, because if we're only at the convention for a day or two,
53:45
then yeah, I'll look at the dates. Well we'll figure it out.
53:50
Yeah, well you and yeah, yeah, if you want to,
53:55
we'll be there. Yeah I'm going. I'm going one, yeah, for
54:00
sure, for sure. So it's the question is not whether I'm going,
54:04
it's how long will I be there and how much trek will I be involved
54:07
in? But there's you know, it's Las Vegas, man, there's other
54:10
ships too. Within hang out with a bunch of nerds for a week.
54:16
I just want to here for a while. What's that? I want to
54:21
watch the sphere for a while. I think looks amazing. What is that?
54:24
I keep seeing memes about that? And yeah, I called you Ross.
54:29
That's right. It's it is a giant globe that is going to be
54:34
an arena for for events. Right from what I understand, it'll hold like
54:38
fifteen thousand people. But the outside is covered in LED monitors, so they
54:44
can make it do anything. Really, yeah, so they could turn it
54:49
in that star. They just need to write file to correct. I've seen
54:52
a giant eyeball. I've seen it like a basketball. Yes, well a
54:58
wolf says welcome back, Daniel one um. Yeah. And then of course
55:02
I've seen a bunch of fake ones too, right, Like I saw one
55:06
where people were playing Mario Kart on it um, which would be amazing.
55:10
Are you saying that the Borg finally adopted clothing technology on their spheres and our
55:16
infiltrate you could make it a Borg sphere. That'd be amazing. Oh I
55:21
bet it will be during the convention. Oh well, who owns this thing?
55:28
I don't know who owns it, not the Rio. I'll tell you
55:30
that, oh boy. But yeah, yeah, it's it's a neat thing.
55:39
The actual arena is not yet open, but it will be soon.
55:43
So okay, but anything else you want to bring up? Run just one
55:52
last thing. Our Vulcans are telepathic, right, yes, and and I
55:58
think it's been established in some previous episodes somewhere I can't remember that they can.
56:01
They don't need to mind meld to be able to read minds or anything
56:04
like that. So I was just surprised how no one had, even Dupring
56:10
didn't have a sense something was off with Spot because they're telepathic. I know
56:15
they're not empathic, but I telepathic. I was wondering about that. I
56:19
always thought they were tactile telepaths. Yeah, that's what I thought. They
56:27
have to touch it. That's why the mind meld involves touching the face.
56:31
Yeah. For some reason, I thought there was an episode where they were
56:36
actually telepathically communicating with somebody. And I don't know if it was like a
56:39
throwaway episode or something, and that might be what's messing me up. I
56:44
think it's one of those things like, Okay, so Deanna Troy is not
56:50
a telepath, she's an EmPATH, but she could talk to her mom telepathically
56:54
because her mom is a telepath Okay, I see, So you have to
57:02
have the CEB to work. Somebody has to have a powerful transmitter. If
57:07
you're both receivers, it doesn't work, right, all right, that makes
57:14
sense? Awesome, all right, all right, well thank thanks? Yeah?
57:22
Thanks? All right? Man, Um, anything else you want to
57:25
bring up before we wrap it up? Um? Do you watching Secret Invasion?
57:34
I am watching Secret Invasion? Yeah, what do you What do you
57:37
think of it so far? Um? I think it's pretty interesting. Yeah,
57:44
Um, I think it's very okay. I think it's very okay.
57:49
And I think when your universe gets too big, you run into problems like,
57:57
well, why isn't it call so and so right? Why doesn't he
58:01
call Thor? Why doesn't he called the Guardians of the Galaxy? You know,
58:06
why doesn't he do this? Why does he? Do? You know?
58:07
You're you're Nick Fury. You have access to all of these super people.
58:13
Why wouldn't you reach out to them to assist you in this? Why
58:15
would you handle it on your own? H darylss Troy was talking to Ryker
58:22
telepathically and t and when they met on the Enterprise, Yeah, and then
58:27
they never did that again. She also called him Bill right, Yes,
58:35
that never happened again either. So what was the last message that was up
58:38
there? Oh, let's see, could a vulcan block a blocked the force
58:44
from taking over their mind? So I asked that, and uh, I
58:46
asked that in the Facebook group, if a vulcan could uh could could uh
58:52
prevent a force choke? You sing the vulcan nerve pinch, And then I
58:55
theorized that, you know, Star Trek telepaths are just they're really just for
59:01
sensitive. They just don't know what the forces there you go. Yeah,
59:07
so my wife calls me there you go? Yes, guys, Well,
59:16
um, yeah, I think I think his secret invasions. Okay, I
59:22
think the reveal of ROADI as a scroll was kind of badly done. But
59:28
you know, what are you gonna do? Yeah? So yeah, um,
59:35
well, I mean we make get the real ROADI at the end of
59:37
the the run that's right, turned towards coming back. Well, they originally
59:49
swamped him out because he was too expensive, but now the tables have turned.
59:52
I'm sure don cheatles more expensive, So swamping back out, baby,
59:55
swam out. They're interchangeable, that's right, that's right. They they get
1:00:01
rid of Samuel Jackson and they bring in Laurence Fishburne there, just as long
1:00:10
as he calls every character neo for no reason. Oh man, Yeah,
1:00:17
all right. Well I'm planning to go see the tom Cruise Quest for Death
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film. Um, the secret of our mission I bossible later today. You
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know, I haven't seen any I think I saw the first one, and
1:00:30
yeah, the five when it came out, I don't think i've seen it.
1:00:34
How many of them are there now? It's like seven or eight?
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Oh my god. Yeah, they're good, are they They're really good.
1:00:42
They're solid, They're very solid. Um. It's one of those that like
1:00:46
I never like want to see them, and then I watch them like,
1:00:50
dude, this is a great time. All right, I'll have to check
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them. That's like Bond. I've never seen a Bond film. I've only
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seen like a handful, um, not one. Yeah all right, well
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