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Colin Cowherd Podcast - Rory REPEATS At The Masters, A Tradition Like No Other, Vrabel/Russini Controversy, NFL Draft Preview · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: deliver for America dot Org. All right, it's a rare repeat.
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Speaker 1: It's been done a few times, Jack Nicholas, Tiger Woods,
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Speaker 1: Nick Faldo, the Green Jacket, and now Rory McElroy. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's interesting last year that roller coaster where he had
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Speaker 1: you know, the shot goes into the drink and he
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Speaker 1: has to go to a playoff. It's interesting the confidence
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Speaker 1: John he had today, multiple shots where he got into trouble.
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Speaker 1: You know, he has some trouble detour saved himself multiple times.
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Speaker 1: I mean here there were chances even on eighteen you're like,
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Speaker 1: oh brother, but yeah, I mean the reality is, this
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Speaker 1: is what happened with John Elway and your Otani's and
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Speaker 1: your shacks. You know, you have that this this prodigy talent, right,
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Speaker 1: and you can struggle, struggle, struggle and you get the
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Speaker 1: first one and it's remarkable. We had Alan Ship knock on.
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Speaker 1: He said, you know, Thursday, Friday, this is gonna be,
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Speaker 1: you know, as as much fun as Rory's ever had
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Speaker 1: playing golf.
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Speaker 2: And it was.
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Speaker 1: And I just I thought his ability and his confidence
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Speaker 1: when he got into trouble today all stems from last year,
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Speaker 1: which is fairly obvious.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean when you have a he went into
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Speaker 2: this week with no pressure, right, He's a defending champ.
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Speaker 2: Just come in, have a good time. But then he
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Speaker 2: has a six shot lead after two days You're like,
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Speaker 2: well you kind of you can't blow it now. And
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Speaker 2: then yesterday was a roller coaster. I do think having
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Speaker 2: that championship, you know, winning it last year. Freddy Couple
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Speaker 2: said after the dinner his first thought was, Rory might
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Speaker 2: never lose again here because the comp he's clearly the
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Speaker 2: most talented guy him and Scheffler. Yeah, but Rory battles
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Speaker 2: the difference between Tiger, who would just suffocate you. Rory
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Speaker 2: to me is like Phil on steroids. He is a
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Speaker 2: roller coat. He is great theater. CBS has to love this.
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Speaker 2: I mean you were just on the edge of your
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Speaker 2: seat over the weekend. At any moment, he could have
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Speaker 2: a ten foot eagle putt or be hitting out of
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Speaker 2: the trees and holding on for dear life for Bogey
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Speaker 2: and clearly today like he could have a hole. You're like,
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Speaker 2: he's gonna lose this guy, and then he burdi back
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Speaker 2: to back holes. Yeah, and then he'd have another shot
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Speaker 2: where he'd rip it way left, he'd rip it way right.
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Speaker 2: Even on eighteen. Yeah, you're like, Rory just hit a
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Speaker 2: five arm down the middle of the hole, just playing conservatively,
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Speaker 2: and you could tell he was like, should I do that?
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Speaker 2: He hand me the driver and he pumps it into
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Speaker 2: the trees. Even CBS cameras couldn't find the ball when
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Speaker 2: he hit it over the trees, Like what did he
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Speaker 2: just do? Yeah, but he has a chance. You know,
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Speaker 2: he's still in the prime of his career, mid thirties,
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Speaker 2: in great shape. He's gonna win this tournament again. You know,
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Speaker 2: he's gonna be one of those guys that wins the
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Speaker 2: Master of three or four times. He rattles off a
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Speaker 2: couple other majors, probably never catching Tiger. But he's now
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Speaker 2: tight Phil, He's past Koepka. I mean, you're looking at
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Speaker 2: a guy that's probably gonna end. He's got a pretty
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Speaker 2: good chance to have double did you Majors? And be clearly,
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Speaker 2: I don't know what be considered a top five golfer
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Speaker 2: of all time behind Tiger Jack oh Arnold like in
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Speaker 2: that in that class. Clearly.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought I thought today was about recovery shots.
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Speaker 1: That's I really if you had to, you know, repeat
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Speaker 1: and recovery from Rory uh just recovered constantly. So Jack
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Speaker 1: won six Masters Tiger five, Palmer four, and then there's
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Speaker 1: a bunch of guys at three, and now Rory's at two.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting you talk Tiger. My producer Ryan
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Speaker 1: sent me a text. He's like, you know, Tiger in
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Speaker 1: his prime was a little like Brady, almost robotic. I mean,
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Speaker 1: if he went into a Sunday with a lead, he's
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Speaker 1: just going to extend it. He didn't give you any chance.
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Speaker 1: Whereas Rory, to your point, it's more disciplined than Phil.
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Speaker 1: But he's got a little mahomes where he's gonna add
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Speaker 1: lib a little bit. He's he's got flair. I mean,
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Speaker 1: they're all like Mickelson in his prime. Especially Tiger and
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Speaker 1: Rory are are incredible off the tee. But I find
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Speaker 1: there was something about all of them, the aspirational sort
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Speaker 1: of nature of Tiger, the wildness of Phil. But I
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Speaker 1: think like Rory is a balance for me. I find
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Speaker 1: him more likable than Tiger. I think he's more disciplined
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Speaker 1: than Phil. And I don't know. I just when I
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Speaker 1: he gets me to a television set and I don't leave.
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Speaker 1: I mean I didn't. I watched it an hour and
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Speaker 1: a half before it started. I didn't shot today. It
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Speaker 1: was great.
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Speaker 2: This tournament's great. This tournament when you have one of
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Speaker 2: the all time greats in the mix or have a
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Speaker 2: great chance, is to me as good of a theater
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Speaker 2: non football as we have in this country. And I
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Speaker 2: think the thing that Rory has people forget this. You know,
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Speaker 2: Tiger came up in an era where they equipment was
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Speaker 2: you sprayed the ball around. So if you watch some
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Speaker 2: of the Tiger highlights, it's hitting shots over trees from
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Speaker 2: two hundred yards to ten feet. Phil was you know
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Speaker 2: that was his game, right, I mean one of the
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Speaker 2: great short games of all time because he was way
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Speaker 2: right right, so he had to hit a crazy flop shot.
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Speaker 2: Rory has this element to his game that is just
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Speaker 2: you never know what's coming. Like on any given shot,
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Speaker 2: he could hit it into the water or hit it
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Speaker 2: into the trees. Kepka when he was rolling and winning
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Speaker 2: the majors, fairway green two putt, fairway green two put
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Speaker 2: occasional birdies, no screw ups, that was Keopka right, no undersa.
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Speaker 1: He was five under this weekend, so a good a
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Speaker 1: good week playing well.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Scotty today can get rolling Scott, He's just fairway
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Speaker 2: hitting it close Rory has those holes clearly, but he
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Speaker 2: also has holes. Rory, what are you doing here? I
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Speaker 2: actually think these last couple of years, for non niche
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Speaker 2: golf fans, he's become much. You know, forever, Tiger was
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Speaker 2: the you know, probably the two thousands, as famous as
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Speaker 2: anyone on the planet, right, and it was making at
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Speaker 2: golf ninety million dollars a year. Remember Phil was like
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Speaker 2: sixty seventy and these two guys, and it feel kind
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Speaker 2: of drafted off Tiger. Yeah, Rory, it to me, has
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Speaker 2: vaulted himself and just everyone like my wife's talking about him,
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Speaker 2: my mom. So he's just a polarizing individual because it's like,
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Speaker 2: is this guy true? Because the one thing with Phil
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Speaker 2: I've always I was always a Phil fan, But is
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Speaker 2: the authentic? Is the authentic Tiger sometimes is too robotic,
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Speaker 2: too big of an a hole? Rory's pretty genuine, you know.
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Speaker 2: He just all of his press conferences this week was
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Speaker 2: just like, you know, this is awesome, but I got
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Speaker 2: a close step by step, keep swinging hard like he
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Speaker 2: kind of embraced it. Clearly less pressure than the elephant,
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Speaker 2: you know, the monkey that was on his back about
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Speaker 2: that clearly freed him up. Like, I don't know if
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Speaker 2: he blows the six shot lead yesterday, if he hadn't
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Speaker 2: won the Master, and he was able to win the
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Speaker 2: day exactly, and that you have that confidence because I
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Speaker 2: had confidence in him today. I just didn't know if,
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Speaker 2: like Justin Rose was gonna have birdie you know, eight
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Speaker 2: holes coming down the stretch and maybe except but I
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Speaker 2: didn't think Rory was gonna quote unquote choke like he
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Speaker 2: almost did last year. It was he was gonna make
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Speaker 2: enough birdies. I thought he made a big shot today.
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Speaker 2: He BIRDI when it was kind of falling apart. He
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Speaker 2: birdied seven and eight. Yeah, he missed a close one
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Speaker 2: on nine, like he started playing well when it got
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Speaker 2: really shaky. And I don't know if he settles the
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Speaker 2: ship because historically he didn't, and I think last year
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Speaker 2: cold I think this opens the gates for I think
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Speaker 2: you're looking at a guy that's gonna win four or
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Speaker 2: five more majors over the course of the next three
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Speaker 2: or four years.
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Speaker 1: Where do we put you know, I was thinking about Mickelson.
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Speaker 1: So Mickelson was never rated number one, although he was
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Speaker 1: number two for two hundred and seventy weeks. I don't
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Speaker 1: know why that's embedded in my head, but it is.
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Speaker 2: It's like asking Peyton Manning, why aren't you the best
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Speaker 2: quarterback ever? Like I played with.
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Speaker 1: Tom tom Well, but Phil won three Masters. Phil also
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Speaker 1: he was never number one. Phill didn't win the US Open,
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Speaker 1: although again I think he finished second six times, probably
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Speaker 1: should have won about three. Yep, some of that his
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Speaker 1: own undoing. I think. I think Rory to me, is
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Speaker 1: just the perfect combination of Tiger and his prime in Phil.
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Speaker 1: He's just a wild card enough to make him fascinating
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Speaker 1: and vulnerable. You know, Scotti schefter is a bit robotic.
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Speaker 1: He had a shot today toward the end where I
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Speaker 1: thought to myself, Ah, here he comes, Harry comes, and
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Speaker 1: that's why the ball went back off the green rolled
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Speaker 1: back and I thought, oh, that's a rare for him.
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Speaker 1: That's an incredible rare miss. But I don't know. I
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Speaker 1: look at is Rory better than Phil Micholson all the time?
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Speaker 1: I think I would put him ahead.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, it's close to a coin flip. I mean,
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Speaker 2: Phil truly is one of the great players of all time.
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Speaker 2: I mean, if Tiger doesn't come around, it's kind of
9:39
Speaker 2: like Peyton Manning. I mean, we're probably considering this guy
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Speaker 2: a little differently, and we already consider them very highly,
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Speaker 2: you know. I mean there's a chance Tiger doesn't come around.
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Speaker 2: Phil has twelve majors, right, just because there was an
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Speaker 2: intimidation factor for a long time. Phil didn't win his
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Speaker 2: first major till his mid thirties. You know. Rory just
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Speaker 2: had that drought, right, Rory banged off like four early
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Speaker 2: and then he missed ten years. I think the thing
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Speaker 2: that Rory has going for him is it feels like
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Speaker 2: he's entering the prime of his career.
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Speaker 1: Well, he's an impeccable shape.
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Speaker 2: Impeccable shape. His mental fortitude and toughness now has been
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Speaker 2: on display these last couple of years. So he's think
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Speaker 2: about the reps he has. I mean, he's been playing
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Speaker 2: this tournament. It is twenty nineteen, when he was twenty
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Speaker 2: years old. Did you watch the Amazon Prime doc on Rory? No?
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Speaker 2: I have.
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Speaker 1: I just finished it.
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Speaker 2: If you have any Yeah, the book I listened to
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Speaker 2: a ship nock. I didn't quite realize that the doc
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Speaker 2: does a pretty good job. It's basically goes over last
10:34
Speaker 2: year's Masters, but a lot of look back to when
10:37
Speaker 2: he was a kid. He was I don't want to
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Speaker 2: say Tiger you know, on TV at three years old.
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Speaker 1: But he was a over there, oh, no question.
10:46
Speaker 2: And this is a guy. The reps this guy has
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Speaker 2: and the talent this guy has was pretty well established
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Speaker 2: by like twelve years old. And you know there's a
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Speaker 2: kind of pressure, especially over there. Golf's a really big deal.
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Speaker 2: He carries the weight, you know, of a nation of
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Speaker 2: the European golfers. And I think, you know, I think
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Speaker 2: he struggles with the vulnerability. Now he's you know, they're
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Speaker 2: just you and Ship Duck talked about it the live
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Speaker 2: thing for a couple of years. He's pretty freed up now.
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Speaker 2: You know, his parents are healthy and happy and live by,
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Speaker 2: and he gets to play with his dad all the time.
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Speaker 2: He's got the young daughter that he takes to school.
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Speaker 2: I think there's a chance that now he didn't play
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Speaker 2: that great at times the last couple of days. I mean,
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Speaker 2: he sprained it all over the map. You know what,
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Speaker 2: I bet he says.
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Speaker 1: The thing about this, they how many putts he missed
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Speaker 1: on the front nine today.
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Speaker 2: You know, if you were going up against like Greg
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Speaker 2: Maddox or Pedro or Nolan Ryan, and they're probably they're like,
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Speaker 2: you know, I had my sea stuff today, like you
11:40
Speaker 2: just went eight and struck out nine because they could
11:43
Speaker 2: have their seat. Or you know Tom Bradley, I didn't
11:45
Speaker 2: play that well well, he led four touchdown drives because
11:48
Speaker 2: they could just find a way to figure it out.
11:50
Speaker 2: Happens with basketball players all the time. To me, Rory,
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Speaker 2: I'd say he had his B minus C plus game
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Speaker 2: over the aggregate of this weekend and still won. I
11:59
Speaker 2: guess he TechEd one by one shot, but he was
12:02
Speaker 2: up six shots and you know had a three shot
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Speaker 2: John back nine. Today he threw four.
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Speaker 1: He missed two Bertie putts, so it was.
12:09
Speaker 2: His putting was a little radic and his driver the
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Speaker 2: last two days. On Friday shot I think seven under,
12:16
Speaker 2: he was hitting out of the trees on he didn't
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Speaker 2: hit a par five fairway, but he made Bertie on
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Speaker 2: every hole and people were talking about it. To cover
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Speaker 2: the sport of like he really knows now this course.
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Speaker 2: The one thing that's unique about this course. Remember a
12:29
Speaker 2: couple of years ago Phil finished second. Justin Rose is
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Speaker 2: forty five. You know, in finishing top five every single year,
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Speaker 2: it feels like it's the only course of the majors
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Speaker 2: where you come back every year and it's so unique.
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Speaker 2: I truly believe he's got a chance to win this tournament.
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Speaker 2: Like Freddy said, I don't know every year, but like,
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Speaker 2: wouldn't shock me if he wins two of the next four.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's a it's a you know, there's I'm
12:53
Speaker 1: not really steeped in tradition, although I make an exception
12:58
Speaker 1: for the Masters. I mean, Sir Geo slamming his club,
13:01
Speaker 1: Robert McIntyre's flipping something off.
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Speaker 2: And you get that. No.
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Speaker 1: I I well, but last year the Spanish golfer Pete
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Speaker 1: in the creek.
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Speaker 2: Uh, he was like, uh, you know, he's a college kid,
13:15
Speaker 2: didn't know the rules that he had to go.
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Speaker 1: So and I think, you know, I'm not banning anybody,
13:23
Speaker 1: you get to life. Sergio's won before. But I do
13:26
Speaker 1: think there's something to be said. Is you know, I'm
13:30
Speaker 1: not somebody that again is a traditionalist in sports. I
13:33
Speaker 1: kind of like new stuff. But I feel differently about
13:36
Speaker 1: the Masters, Like I I like, it bothered me that
13:39
Speaker 1: Sergio did that. I wouldn't ban him, but I don't
13:42
Speaker 1: like it. And I just I think this is one
13:44
Speaker 1: of the great events. I mean John. One of the
13:47
Speaker 1: reasons I supported Live. I didn't know what Live was
13:49
Speaker 1: gonna be. But my takeaway is I watched golf for golfers.
13:51
Speaker 1: I don't watch it for the course or for the
13:53
Speaker 1: brand PGA except Augusta. Now. I do like the Open
13:58
Speaker 1: at Pebble Beach and the British is great Saint Andrews,
14:03
Speaker 1: but it's different in Augusta. I mean it's different from
14:05
Speaker 1: the merch, the prices, you know, Amen Corner. I do
14:10
Speaker 1: feel like you have to sit down with like a
14:12
Speaker 1: Sergio or a McIntyre and have strict warnings. Do you
14:16
Speaker 1: are you kind of in that same space.
14:18
Speaker 2: I always thought the unique part about golf is the
14:21
Speaker 2: most expensive country club where I live in North Scottsdale.
14:25
Speaker 2: It costs over half a million dollars to join. Rom's
14:27
Speaker 2: a member there, Michael Phelps is they have no rules.
14:31
Speaker 2: You could wear no shoes, you could wear Rom plays
14:33
Speaker 2: in a T shirt all the time. You could wear
14:35
Speaker 2: basketball shorts to the club. And there are other clubs
14:38
Speaker 2: down the street where you if you were caught with
14:41
Speaker 2: a cell phone on the putting green on a phone,
14:43
Speaker 2: they don't care. If you're Jeff Bezos, They're going to
14:46
Speaker 2: ask you to leave, and they have specific rules. You
14:49
Speaker 2: go into Olympic Club, you go into these places in Monterey,
14:52
Speaker 2: in la in Chicago, you take your hat off inside.
14:56
Speaker 2: Just like if I enter your home and you say, John,
14:59
Speaker 2: we don't wear shoes in this home. I take my
15:00
Speaker 2: shoes off. It's your home. It's no different. A golf course.
15:03
Speaker 2: That's the golf course, the membership of that crew, and
15:06
Speaker 2: they have certain rules. And people say Augusta's stiffer than most. Yeah,
15:10
Speaker 2: it's true. Yeah, And that's that's that's their rules. Just
15:14
Speaker 2: like if you don't like it, there are super nice
15:17
Speaker 2: courses all over America that are really expensive that have
15:19
Speaker 2: no rules. And to me, the thing in Augusta is
15:22
Speaker 2: the reverence that every single golfer has for it, that
15:25
Speaker 2: would gladly follow the rules. I don't even think they're
15:27
Speaker 2: that hard. Right, don't you gotta wear pants? Right? You
15:31
Speaker 2: can't the ping in the creek, to me, that was
15:34
Speaker 2: more funny, But I would. They have very strict rules
15:37
Speaker 2: about cell phones on property, and you can argue they're
15:41
Speaker 2: a little archaic, and I agree. I mean, you and
15:45
Speaker 2: I were talking about last week on TV, like a
15:47
Speaker 2: lot of people run businesses, you get phone calls, you
15:49
Speaker 2: gotta you know you, I don't know, you got things
15:51
Speaker 2: going on in life, like it is what it is.
15:54
Speaker 2: But it doesn't feel like any of these are changing.
15:57
Speaker 2: The Masters is the one place where it feels like
15:59
Speaker 2: everyone just embraces it. Yeah, I mean think about this
16:02
Speaker 2: when you and I were at Live and most PGA
16:05
Speaker 2: events are like this. If you go to a driving range,
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Speaker 2: and most guys, when these golfers talk, they say, we
16:11
Speaker 2: had a great week. I owe it to my team.
16:13
Speaker 2: When they say their team, they're not just that's not
16:15
Speaker 2: the catty, that's their physio, that's their putting coach. They're
16:18
Speaker 2: chipping coach, their swing coach, their manager, their agent. These
16:21
Speaker 2: guys all I mean, they're these guys are fifteen twenty
16:24
Speaker 2: minimum million dollars a year businesses, some of them, like Rory,
16:27
Speaker 2: probably one hundred million dollars a year business And at
16:29
Speaker 2: Augusta you're allowed one person, non caddy, to come with
16:33
Speaker 2: you when you're hitting balls. One person. It's not like
16:36
Speaker 2: that at any of these other tournaments, any of the
16:38
Speaker 2: other majors. So those are their rules. And you know what,
16:42
Speaker 2: every single person, to a man that I always see
16:44
Speaker 2: these pro golfers. They can't wait for this event. It's
16:47
Speaker 2: why you notice, like early on when guys are struggling,
16:51
Speaker 2: you build yourself up so much for it. You know,
16:54
Speaker 2: Bryce to just imployes. You can feel it on his
16:56
Speaker 2: body language, like you got to wait another year to
16:58
Speaker 2: come back here, and like you get these opportunities and
17:03
Speaker 2: they just lose it. Especially on Friday when you see
17:05
Speaker 2: a guy that's going to miss the cut. Their body
17:07
Speaker 2: language to me, is different than any other tournament because
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Speaker 2: of the gravity and the importance of this event. I
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Speaker 2: actually think this event's popularity feels like it's grown. Maybe
17:17
Speaker 2: I think the way we consume sports now, I agree,
17:20
Speaker 2: it feels really I mean I always just at a
17:22
Speaker 2: family event. I'm back home, we had I had aunts, uncles.
17:26
Speaker 2: I mean, everyone's watched it talking Rory Rory, Rory just
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Speaker 2: blocked in on the course. I don't know if that's
17:32
Speaker 2: happening non Tiger five year, ten years ago.
17:35
Speaker 1: I mean, even the wn WNBA, even the WNBA is
17:39
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17:42
Speaker 1: Everything is getting broader and wider, and there's very few
17:45
Speaker 1: things that I know are always going to be there
17:48
Speaker 1: NFL games at ten am Pacific and one pm Pacific,
17:52
Speaker 1: and the Masters on CBS on Saturday. On Sunday, there's
17:56
Speaker 1: very few things that aren't up for grabs. Else is
18:00
Speaker 1: I mean even second tier leagues. The WNBA is certainly
18:03
Speaker 1: not wildly profitable pre Caitlin Clark, it wasn't. It's on,
18:07
Speaker 1: It's got all multiple platforms, it's on, everything's spread around everywhere.
18:11
Speaker 1: I thought Amazon did a pretty good job on coverage,
18:15
Speaker 1: but overall, it's uh, you know, I'm just ready I
18:20
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18:32
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Speaker 1: I don't know how much. One of the great things
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Speaker 1: about being on a podcast I can talk about what
20:22
Speaker 1: I want and I don't have time restrictions. But one
20:26
Speaker 1: of the things I've noticed about the Mike Vrabel Diana
20:29
Speaker 1: Russini story is and I haven't discussed it yet, and
20:35
Speaker 1: I think sometimes consumers are like, well, why isn't mainstream
20:40
Speaker 1: media discussing it. Well, it's interesting because in my world
20:46
Speaker 1: there's moral and then there's ethical morals personal. You know,
20:52
Speaker 1: if you lie to me, or I lie to you
20:54
Speaker 1: about something, or you lie to your wife about something.
20:56
Speaker 1: I lied to my kids about something, that's a moral
20:59
Speaker 1: that's a person. No issue. Ethical is about it's on
21:02
Speaker 1: the outside. It's standards. Fox and iHeart have standards. The
21:05
Speaker 1: New York Times has ethical standards. I've never had a
21:09
Speaker 1: moral clause. I've had fifteen contract I've never had a
21:13
Speaker 1: moral clause.
21:15
Speaker 2: I have one in the volume. I I didn't check
21:17
Speaker 2: the contract. No, you do not.
21:19
Speaker 1: I don't think you have an ethical one at the
21:21
Speaker 1: volume either. And football coaches don't have ethical clauses. Journalists
21:26
Speaker 1: have ethical clauses. Broadcasters have ethical clauses. People tend to
21:30
Speaker 1: some people think moral ethical, it's the same. Ethical is
21:34
Speaker 1: is external. You know it's a company. It's a code
21:37
Speaker 1: of conduct, morals personal. Football coaches don't you know if
21:41
Speaker 1: you're winning in the NFL as a football coach, and
21:43
Speaker 1: Raybel took a team to the Super Bowl who had
21:45
Speaker 1: no business, that had no business being the Super Bowl.
21:48
Speaker 1: If these allegations, all we have is pictures, I have
21:52
Speaker 1: two subjects. I don't have two sources. And the more
21:54
Speaker 1: serious the story is, I need two sources, just pictures. Right,
21:59
Speaker 1: So it's just a moral issue. If the allegations are true.
22:05
Speaker 1: With Diana, it's moral and ethical because she has in
22:08
Speaker 1: her contract there are standards and procedures from the New
22:12
Speaker 1: York Times. I mean they fired Jason Blair was a reporter.
22:15
Speaker 1: I remember that fifteen twenty years ago. Whenever that was so,
22:18
Speaker 1: I think the audience is like, well, why don't you
22:20
Speaker 1: why don't you talk about I don't talk about moral stuff.
22:22
Speaker 1: I've said this for thirty three years. On the end,
22:25
Speaker 1: I'm not a moralist. What you do in your personal
22:27
Speaker 1: life is and people come up to me, I'm not
22:32
Speaker 1: a Christian. I'm more agnostic. Your morals aren't mine, by
22:35
Speaker 1: the way, my morals aren't yours. But we both live
22:38
Speaker 1: by the same ethical standards if we work at a
22:41
Speaker 1: journalism you know, the Times and so. And I've just
22:45
Speaker 1: never I've made it a practice in my life is
22:47
Speaker 1: I don't talk about the moral stuff. I mean, by
22:49
Speaker 1: the way TMZH, which covers a much broader spectrum of
22:55
Speaker 1: stories than I do. They don't do They will tell
22:58
Speaker 1: you they don't do marriage policing. They stay out of affairs.
23:03
Speaker 1: They just stay And that's TMZ. That's Hollywood because everybody's
23:06
Speaker 1: having them, so they stay out of them. So I
23:09
Speaker 1: guess what I'm trying to tell people is, don't confuse
23:13
Speaker 1: moral and ethical. Diana's in a space where it's moral
23:17
Speaker 1: and ethical. Mike's is moral, and again these are allegations.
23:20
Speaker 1: That's the other reason I don't talk about it, but
23:22
Speaker 1: I do want to create or provide clarity on that.
23:25
Speaker 1: When you say, well, why doesn't the mainstream I don't
23:27
Speaker 1: think mainstream broadcasters writers talk about moral stuff. If it
23:32
Speaker 1: becomes ethical, if a reporter gets fired for this, then
23:38
Speaker 1: that means the New York Times discovered ethical breaches. Therefore,
23:44
Speaker 1: the mainstream media comes in to discuss they have evidence
23:49
Speaker 1: therefore of an ethical lapse. So I'm supporting the mainstream media.
23:54
Speaker 1: That's one thing. If you're a podcaster with you know,
23:56
Speaker 1: a small following, a blogger, you know you're latitude on
24:00
Speaker 1: this stuff. You talk about what you want when you want.
24:02
Speaker 1: But for the main for the major media players, mostly
24:07
Speaker 1: we wait for an ethical breach which is confirmed by
24:11
Speaker 1: an employer to discuss.
24:15
Speaker 2: Well, I would say by this point, every single person
24:19
Speaker 2: agrees the pictures that we saw. Once you figure out
24:23
Speaker 2: the resort, I've never I've lived in Arizona now five
24:25
Speaker 2: you've never been to Sedona. It is a place that
24:27
Speaker 2: resort honeymoons, baby moons, aniversaries. It's a couple's it looks bad.
24:32
Speaker 2: You're holding hands, everyone assumes, especially if you show that
24:35
Speaker 2: to your wife. I show that to my wife. My
24:37
Speaker 2: wife wouldn't have been able to point Diana Orsini out
24:39
Speaker 2: of a lineup. If I say, hey, this is the
24:40
Speaker 2: Patriot coach and I show her the pictures sho out
24:43
Speaker 2: They're probably sleeping together on a date or whatever. We
24:46
Speaker 2: all agree there one thing. I get a lot, and
24:49
Speaker 2: I get a lot of dms of like you know,
24:50
Speaker 2: and you see this on the internet. I got one
24:53
Speaker 2: today like, well, he's not being covered like Sharon Moore. Well,
24:57
Speaker 2: Sharon Moore was having sex with anim eployee that worked
25:01
Speaker 2: for him. This they don't work together. But you just
25:04
Speaker 2: see all these different takes of why aren't this right?
25:06
Speaker 2: Mike Rabel's job. Robert Kraft went into a massage parlor
25:12
Speaker 2: the day of the AFC Championship game in Palm Beach
25:15
Speaker 2: and had to fly to Kansas City and got caught.
25:18
Speaker 2: The Patriot look at Belichick's off the field anti They
25:21
Speaker 2: do not care. His job is to win games. If
25:23
Speaker 2: he didn't need to be fired. If he does, he
25:25
Speaker 2: keeps his job. Her job, like you said, is more,
25:28
Speaker 2: you know, tied around to getting these sources, and if
25:31
Speaker 2: you're sleeping with the sorts. I'm not a journalist. I
25:33
Speaker 2: don't know the rules. But clearly the New York Times
25:35
Speaker 2: feels like she's gonna get fired now.
25:36
Speaker 1: Right, Okay? Well, and also the Boston Celtics fire a
25:39
Speaker 1: coach because of lapses moral slash ethical with somebody a
25:46
Speaker 1: partner in the building. So that's that's that's that's that's
25:50
Speaker 1: that's like the Michigan situation. That that that's what got
25:55
Speaker 1: the Celtics coach fired. The it's not if you come
25:57
Speaker 1: into it with a clear mind and without a j
26:00
Speaker 1: to because even my wife asked why does he get
26:02
Speaker 1: a pass and why doesn't she? And I said, well,
26:04
Speaker 1: there are standards and practices ethically that you in your
26:07
Speaker 1: contract as a journalist. Football coaches you win. There's there's
26:12
Speaker 1: no it's a moral issue and there's no moral clause
26:15
Speaker 1: in contracts.
26:16
Speaker 2: Well, I know the other thing. I always say this
26:18
Speaker 2: about relationships and the older I've gotten. You know, I've
26:22
Speaker 2: had friends get divorced. I see friends in relationships. I
26:25
Speaker 2: my marriage. Like most people, we have unwritten rules. Like baseball,
26:29
Speaker 2: you gotta know what's allowed, you know what's not allowed.
26:32
Speaker 2: But I've and you're you've been around longer in me
26:34
Speaker 2: and seen different relationships. There are a lot of people
26:37
Speaker 2: in relationships that would not fly in my home. I
26:40
Speaker 2: never assume other people are in whatever their marriage is
26:45
Speaker 2: allowed to do. You never know, and I and I
26:48
Speaker 2: I don't care and I don't want to know, and
26:51
Speaker 2: it's none of my business.
26:52
Speaker 1: And I just I'm not into that stuff, like I
26:55
Speaker 1: just I've always been one of those guys. There's I
26:57
Speaker 1: don't talk about media much. Some hosts and podcast I
27:00
Speaker 1: don't they that some people specialize in it. I don't.
27:03
Speaker 1: I also don't talk about moral obligations. I don't talk
27:07
Speaker 1: about that either. I think there is you know I
27:11
Speaker 1: and if people want to do it, go for it.
27:13
Speaker 1: But I'm just I got pictures. I don't have sourcing
27:19
Speaker 1: on this.
27:19
Speaker 2: Why. I think why? And I don't know. I was
27:21
Speaker 2: at a family event trying to watch the Masters. I
27:24
Speaker 2: did see something come across like pop up on my phone,
27:27
Speaker 2: Mike Vrabel. Because every coach or GM, A lot of
27:31
Speaker 2: teams have the coach in GM. The NFL is great
27:34
Speaker 2: about this, right. They make us speak of the combine
27:35
Speaker 2: they make a speak at the owners meetings, then you're
27:37
Speaker 2: mandatory to speak again before the draft, and then during
27:39
Speaker 2: the draft and after the draft, keep that cycle going.
27:42
Speaker 2: He is not going to speak. I think they're gonna
27:45
Speaker 2: put Elliott Wolf. Typically, I would imagine Mike and Elliott
27:48
Speaker 2: would both speak before the draft. Clearly, they're not putting
27:51
Speaker 2: him out there in this situation because no one would
27:54
Speaker 2: ask them what they're gonna do with the thirty first
27:56
Speaker 2: pick in the draft. He would just get inundated. Wolf
28:00
Speaker 2: is gonna get asked about this question, right, It's gonna
28:03
Speaker 2: be a story. It's it's not gonna go away, especially
28:06
Speaker 2: if you know by all accounts, she's been sidelined and listen,
28:09
Speaker 2: I said this on my podcast because I like this
28:12
Speaker 2: stuff probably more than you do. But also like listen,
28:15
Speaker 2: she's always been cool to me. I like her, like
28:17
Speaker 2: I don't know or it's not like I listen, I
28:20
Speaker 2: don't know Vrabel, But it's all I think we all
28:22
Speaker 2: agree what we're seeing, what's going down. Probably, but like
28:26
Speaker 2: you said, like what they're not what's the outcome of this? Okay,
28:30
Speaker 2: they're cheating on their husbands and wives? Like okay, what
28:33
Speaker 2: what's what? Do you like? Yeah, but and she's breaking
28:36
Speaker 2: stories that what that he's gonna cut some guy? That
28:40
Speaker 2: story comes out anyway. Edi Trauss has been on this forever,
28:42
Speaker 2: these newsbreakers, This news exists no matter whether they exist
28:46
Speaker 2: or not. Right if I trade tomorrow Patrick Mahomes and
28:50
Speaker 2: I break the story or nobody breaks the story and
28:53
Speaker 2: the Kandissy just post, we just trade pat the events
28:56
Speaker 2: happening no matter what. So a lot of stuff that
28:59
Speaker 2: these insiders now get, you know, do beside the news
29:03
Speaker 2: is well, they're weighing these options. Then it becomes newsworthy,
29:07
Speaker 2: but it's not. Actually it's just kind of getting leaked
29:09
Speaker 2: to see.
29:10
Speaker 1: Yeah.
29:10
Speaker 2: I always think that's kind of stupid. You know when
29:14
Speaker 2: teams use the media to do stuff and put stuff
29:17
Speaker 2: out there. And we talked about this with the Jets
29:19
Speaker 2: with David Bailey. It's like you're either going to get
29:21
Speaker 2: it right or wrong, and that's where you're going to
29:23
Speaker 2: be judged on playing the media game. You know who
29:25
Speaker 2: doesn't do that, Sean McVay, Andy Reid, Kyle Shanahan. They
29:28
Speaker 2: don't waste time on that. So I think we make
29:30
Speaker 2: a big deal of it. But I just think her role,
29:33
Speaker 2: like I get where women are like, what the hell
29:37
Speaker 2: you make If I'm doing it the right way is
29:39
Speaker 2: this would be pissed off. But this notion that Mike Rabel,
29:43
Speaker 2: Mike Rabel's job is look at the guy he has.
29:46
Speaker 2: I guess he technically didn't replace Belichick, but he kind
29:48
Speaker 2: of did. Yeah, moral ethically, Belichick no standards. His job
29:52
Speaker 2: was to win and win big, and that's all that
29:53
Speaker 2: matters in the end. That's what they're employed to do.
29:55
Speaker 1: And people could say, well, what about Spygate, that's an
29:57
Speaker 1: ethical lapse their standards in pursuit that you can't tape
30:01
Speaker 1: deflate gate ethical not moral? Moral is personal? Ethical?
30:06
Speaker 2: Outy Gate with Sean Payton ethical, right.
30:09
Speaker 1: That's ethical. So and well, they're the same, They're not
30:13
Speaker 1: the same. I stay out of I'm not I don't
30:16
Speaker 1: do moral morality police it's it's and you can criticize
30:20
Speaker 1: me for that. And I I have two things on
30:22
Speaker 1: the top of my head right now that I know
30:25
Speaker 1: morally about high profile people. They're not elected officials. I
30:33
Speaker 1: just consider it no in my business. And I just
30:36
Speaker 1: saw I'm not going to talk about it. I'll go
30:37
Speaker 1: to my gray with it. I don't care. I'm not
30:39
Speaker 1: real nosy that way. I don't care. So there you go.
30:43
Speaker 2: All right.
30:43
Speaker 1: So the NFL Draft, we're about ten eleven days out,
30:49
Speaker 1: came up fast, it did. The big question in the
30:55
Speaker 1: draft is what do the Jets do with number two.
30:58
Speaker 1: I think they're far more int things because it doesn't
31:01
Speaker 1: matter who the Jets are gonna draft, they're gonna be awful.
31:04
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated to see if the Raiders trade up to
31:07
Speaker 1: get Omar Cooper at the top of the second or
31:09
Speaker 1: does he fall to them. Because if I was the
31:11
Speaker 1: Raiders and I could get Omar Cooper, the hoo's your
31:13
Speaker 1: wide receiver, the favorite target of Fernando Mendoza, that would
31:18
Speaker 1: be my pick quarterback wide receiver. This is what like
31:22
Speaker 1: a McVeigh does, or you know, I mean when Shanahan
31:26
Speaker 1: gets Brock Purty. They do everything they can to add
31:28
Speaker 1: more offensive elements. I think they overdraft wide receivers, but
31:31
Speaker 1: they're doing it for a point. Let's help. Let's help
31:34
Speaker 1: our young quarterback Ben Johnson. Let's get Drew Dolman, Let's
31:37
Speaker 1: get Jonah Jackson, Let's get Joe Toney. Let's draft Luther Burden.
31:42
Speaker 1: That's the way to do it, and so I think
31:43
Speaker 1: John's Bytech the GM and Clint Kubiak. My take is
31:47
Speaker 1: they're going to go get a tackle. They need to
31:49
Speaker 1: right tackle. They drafted a kid a couple of years ago,
31:51
Speaker 1: third round. He can play in or out. He's okay.
31:55
Speaker 1: My take is I would just go quarterback, receiver, tackle.
31:58
Speaker 1: Then if you have defensive needs, go for it. Just
32:01
Speaker 1: make sure you get the quarterback right. That's fascinating. I think.
32:03
Speaker 1: I think what the Dolphins have with four third round picks.
32:06
Speaker 1: Do they move up in the first round, give up
32:08
Speaker 1: a third round pick because a lot of teams want
32:09
Speaker 1: to move down. John, I could see the Dolphins saying, hey, man,
32:13
Speaker 1: we got you know, if Jeremiah loves available at the
32:16
Speaker 1: sixth pick, and they're like, well, okay, we don't need
32:18
Speaker 1: a running back. Let's say let's say you know they
32:22
Speaker 1: have a defensive coach, Jeff Hafley, and they're worried about
32:25
Speaker 1: Caleb Downs. I can see them saying it, like number nine,
32:28
Speaker 1: we're gonna get the best safety in the draft. Move
32:30
Speaker 1: I don't know, if you move up for a safety,
32:32
Speaker 1: is there a team in particular that you that that
32:34
Speaker 1: really interest you on draft Day?
32:36
Speaker 2: I think the Chiefs because all these teams with two
32:38
Speaker 2: first round picks are bad teams, right. The Browns are
32:42
Speaker 2: not going to win any games next year, The Jets
32:44
Speaker 2: are going to be bad. The Dolphins are literally trying
32:46
Speaker 2: to reset this thing, and ideally like they would sign
32:49
Speaker 2: up right now to be have the number one pick
32:51
Speaker 2: next year, even though they might like this quarterback is
32:54
Speaker 2: being Malik Willis. I think the Chiefs could do a
32:56
Speaker 2: lot of different things. I think if they love Sonny Stock,
33:00
Speaker 2: they could trade on it, or you know, pick a
33:02
Speaker 2: player that they like. It's not going to be here
33:04
Speaker 2: at nine, but we could move up. The Giants, Hey,
33:07
Speaker 2: you need a lot, John, you want to keep, you know,
33:10
Speaker 2: build around your own guys. You want to go from
33:12
Speaker 2: five to nine, We'll throw in a second round pick
33:14
Speaker 2: we got to first, right or whatever it would cost.
33:19
Speaker 2: And they are a team that if they come out
33:20
Speaker 2: of the first round, like, there's a decent chance to
33:22
Speaker 2: me they could stick at nine, trade up from twenty nine, because,
33:26
Speaker 2: like you said, a lot of teams want to go back,
33:28
Speaker 2: but not a lot of teams want to come up.
33:30
Speaker 2: But how many teams, like the Chiefs are kind of
33:33
Speaker 2: truly every year kind of put all their chips in
33:35
Speaker 2: the middle of the table right now because coach Reeve's
33:37
Speaker 2: getting older. Like, to me, you get from twenty nine
33:40
Speaker 2: into the teams because all these teams would love to
33:42
Speaker 2: come down. You know, this draft is pretty polarizing in
33:45
Speaker 2: the sense that it's not viewed as great right there.
33:49
Speaker 2: There are a lot of players, like the best wide receiver.
33:52
Speaker 2: It's not exactly Jamar Chase.
33:54
Speaker 1: No, it's like like at running back, a tight end,
33:57
Speaker 1: it's week. It's a week.
33:59
Speaker 2: Draft told me it's the worst they've been in the
34:01
Speaker 2: league almost eighteen twenty years. The worst running back class
34:04
Speaker 2: they've ever seen. Yeah, by far. And they say centers
34:08
Speaker 2: and guards now are very hit or miss because all
34:10
Speaker 2: these guys are transferring that centers and guards. When I
34:13
Speaker 2: was gotten football, even I remember in high school recruiting
34:17
Speaker 2: you could find those guys, develop them. In the NFL.
34:20
Speaker 2: You'd be like, oh, just wait to the fourth, fifth,
34:21
Speaker 2: sixth round, We'll draft a guard and a center, and
34:23
Speaker 2: one of those two guys will eventually become a pro bowler.
34:26
Speaker 2: Now you're terrified. You get to the third day, You're like,
34:28
Speaker 2: there's not even a guy on our board that we
34:30
Speaker 2: think is draft worthy. So I think the thing has
34:33
Speaker 2: the nil has reshaped college football. I think for the better.
34:37
Speaker 2: It's made it more interesting. It's really impacted the depth
34:40
Speaker 2: of draft, you know, because top end guys. If I'm
34:44
Speaker 2: on the fence, right, it's like I could be a
34:46
Speaker 2: first rounder. Well, sometimes those guys as the combine happens
34:49
Speaker 2: as the draft, pro Day and pre draft workouts, that
34:52
Speaker 2: guy goes from pick thirty two to fifteen, right, he
34:55
Speaker 2: kind of rises. Well, that guy stayed at Ohio State.
34:57
Speaker 2: That guy state at Oregon for a lot of money.
35:00
Speaker 2: Dante Moore ten years ago, it's like you could you
35:03
Speaker 2: can't pass being the second overall pick. You might get injured.
35:06
Speaker 2: Now it's like, well, I'll just go back to school
35:08
Speaker 2: for five six million dollars. I've made five six million
35:10
Speaker 2: dollars last couple of years and having a blast, like
35:13
Speaker 2: I don't need to come out. So there's been this
35:15
Speaker 2: huge trick, you know, kind of domino effect from the
35:18
Speaker 2: first round to me through the third day. And I
35:21
Speaker 2: think all these teams are still kind of there's a
35:23
Speaker 2: feeling out process of how do we handle big picture
35:28
Speaker 2: next year? Like, dude, are some of the top players
35:30
Speaker 2: getting pushed back next year. But can you ever rely
35:34
Speaker 2: on that because our guy's going to keep going back
35:37
Speaker 2: to school. I think teams are still there's like these
35:40
Speaker 2: last couple of years that they're really feeling out the
35:43
Speaker 2: nil landscape. The good part for him is I know
35:46
Speaker 2: how the guy handles money, because if you tell me, right, yeah,
35:49
Speaker 2: this guy was just making you know, the last two years,
35:52
Speaker 2: he made about two million dollars total, didn't miss a workout.
35:55
Speaker 2: First guy there treats everyone exactly the same as when
35:59
Speaker 2: we met him inhigh school. You're like, that's a high character.
36:01
Speaker 2: You feel good about it. Were the number one question
36:03
Speaker 2: I remember when I got in the NFL and up
36:05
Speaker 2: through like the last four or five years, like how
36:07
Speaker 2: will this guy handle money? Because it's one thing to
36:09
Speaker 2: get a bag with ten k cash in it, it's
36:11
Speaker 2: another thing to get direct deposits every two weeks at
36:16
Speaker 2: enormous numbers. When you're just like the starting right tackle,
36:19
Speaker 2: you know, the guy I would make nine hundred grant.
36:22
Speaker 2: You know the money these football players, I mean the roster.
36:24
Speaker 2: I think some fans you're telling me this roster's forty
36:27
Speaker 2: million dollars, Like, yeah, this roster's forty million. This is
36:30
Speaker 2: Ohio State. They are paying twenty two stars. They say,
36:33
Speaker 2: some of these backups because they're five stars.
36:35
Speaker 1: Jermaine Smith, the wide receiver next year at Ohio State.
36:37
Speaker 1: I saw a story over the weekend. Is he going
36:40
Speaker 1: to get ten million dollars?
36:41
Speaker 2: Now?
36:41
Speaker 1: I Ohio State's got so much depth at that position.
36:44
Speaker 1: I'd never pay a wide receiver over like three. Like
36:47
Speaker 1: I thought three was the number, the big number that
36:50
Speaker 1: a couple top receivers could get. But yeah, an Ohio
36:55
Speaker 1: State recruits that position so well, I doubt they'd pay that.
36:57
Speaker 2: But but even like this, this drafts good exis sample
37:00
Speaker 2: the top tackles all played right tackle in college interview
37:04
Speaker 2: is like solid players and they'd be starters historically. I
37:06
Speaker 2: think those guys grow in the twenties. But in this draft,
37:09
Speaker 2: it's like I think Bane Well, I mean it's probably
37:12
Speaker 2: on tape is the best pass rusher, but he's six'
37:15
Speaker 2: to one with short arms right just on tape like
37:18
Speaker 2: he was the most dominant.
37:19
Speaker 1: Guy you, Know, JOHN I i Think i've talked about,
37:22
Speaker 1: THIS i think before another. PODCAST i don't think there's
37:25
Speaker 1: as much football talent In. AMERICA i think the quality
37:28
Speaker 1: of college football because the teams are older is, better
37:31
Speaker 1: but the depth in terms of. TALENT i, mean we
37:33
Speaker 1: were talking about this during THE cte. Discussions a lot
37:37
Speaker 1: of moms didn't want their sons to play. FOOTBALL i,
37:40
Speaker 1: MEAN i have a friend IN, la big football. Fan
37:43
Speaker 1: his son played quarterback in you, Know west of the
37:46
Speaker 1: FOUR h five as they say In. La and like he,
37:49
Speaker 1: said everybody in my community is, like you let your
37:51
Speaker 1: kids play. Football you, know you go you go to
37:54
Speaker 1: some of these blue states and blue, cities like we
37:56
Speaker 1: don't let our kids play. Football AND i was like,
37:58
Speaker 1: really and he's, like oh, Yeah he's, like you, know
38:01
Speaker 1: it's just. There it's, harder fewer kids are trying out for,
38:07
Speaker 1: it and it'll always be big in The south And
38:10
Speaker 1: texas and parts of the. Country BUT i do Think
38:14
Speaker 1: i've noticed it this year is a great. EXAMPLE i
38:16
Speaker 1: talked about this four or five years. AGO i noticed
38:18
Speaker 1: it in Southern. California the whole state Of. California if
38:22
Speaker 1: you looked at high school football, recruiting the state Of
38:24
Speaker 1: california would have like there's thirty eight million, people it
38:28
Speaker 1: would have two elite running, backs two like four star.
38:31
Speaker 1: Guys sometimes you wouldn't have and there'd be a few
38:34
Speaker 1: other good, backs but like wide, receiver you'd have seventeen
38:39
Speaker 1: guys that were five or four star. Gucks running, back
38:42
Speaker 1: you'd have like, one maybe, two like in the state
38:46
Speaker 1: Of california if you went on three year, rivals you,
38:49
Speaker 1: know the recruiting. Sites AND i was noticing this and the,
38:52
Speaker 1: kids they know where the money's. At it's at, quarterback
38:55
Speaker 1: it's at star wide, receiver it's at pass, rusher it's
38:58
Speaker 1: at great, corner it's it's not at running. Back so
39:02
Speaker 1: young people have always determined like trends and whether whether
39:06
Speaker 1: it's you, know the revival Of, puma you, know you,
39:10
Speaker 1: know the shoe. Brand, yeah and so kids like you,
39:13
Speaker 1: know they're not, dopes they don't want to play running.
39:15
Speaker 1: Back SO i think it's a and increasingly in THE, nfl,
39:19
Speaker 1: you'll you'll it's hard to get that second contract if
39:22
Speaker 1: you're a running. Back so it's a you, know football
39:24
Speaker 1: is getting more three out and four out and that's
39:28
Speaker 1: just the reality of the.
39:28
Speaker 2: Sport well that's WHY i, think you, know in this,
39:32
Speaker 2: draft one guy did is just you, Know, historically, linebackers
39:38
Speaker 2: middle linebackers were not viewed as left. Tackles pass rushers
39:42
Speaker 2: obviously quarterbacks or even wide. Receivers if you told, ME
39:46
Speaker 2: i could Get Fred warner on my, theme Or brian
39:49
Speaker 2: Er lacker Or Justin. JEFFERSON i Think Justin. Jefferson you,
39:54
Speaker 2: know if your quarterback g's, hurt it's hard for him
39:56
Speaker 2: to get five touches a. Game we saw WITH jj,
39:58
Speaker 2: McCarthy and even if he is, humming he's touching the
40:01
Speaker 2: ball ten times a, game eleven times a. Game you
40:04
Speaker 2: get a top linebacker in this league that's spread, out
40:07
Speaker 2: it's sidelined to, sideline and they cover the tight ends
40:11
Speaker 2: and the running. Backs all the running backs now can,
40:13
Speaker 2: catch and look how good most team's tight ends. Are
40:16
Speaker 2: so the value of a middle linebacker is not just
40:19
Speaker 2: stuffing the a gap making a. Tackle, now it's playing
40:22
Speaker 2: sideline to sideline and getting fifteen plus tackles and covering
40:27
Speaker 2: sometimes the best weapon on the other team all the
40:30
Speaker 2: time in the Bat like to, me A Sunny styles.
40:32
Speaker 2: Hits his impact is immense at you, know stand up
40:37
Speaker 2: linebacker and the versatility that. Brings AND i think sometimes
40:41
Speaker 2: we don't value that, position AND i think it's stupid
40:44
Speaker 2: in this day and age where everyone's Running Kyle shanahan's. Offense,
40:47
Speaker 2: well What's Kyle shannan's. Offense you tell the running back
40:50
Speaker 2: to just run at the right or left tackle and
40:53
Speaker 2: then just pick a. Lane, well who's the guy figuring
40:55
Speaker 2: out how to tackle the middle? Linebacker you, know he's
40:58
Speaker 2: the guy making all the tackles in The shanahan and
41:00
Speaker 2: against The shanahan running. Scheme that literally it feels like
41:04
Speaker 2: eighty percent of the team's run. Now SO i Think
41:07
Speaker 2: Sonny styles is a guy that six by four. Four
41:11
Speaker 2: he's only been playing the position now for a couple of.
41:13
Speaker 2: Years he was just taught by AN nfl. COORDINATOR i
41:17
Speaker 2: think his impact could be just immense by whoever gets
41:21
Speaker 2: him and go down is, like, damn how did that
41:23
Speaker 2: guy fall to? Seven you, know if he's the he
41:25
Speaker 2: could be the best player in the.
41:26
Speaker 1: Draft all, Right, john that's an easy one, tonight easy,
41:31
Speaker 1: lift forty, minutes easy. Lift we're gonna Give. Postmasters we're
41:38
Speaker 1: gonna give our crew an easy, edit and uh have
41:42
Speaker 1: a Great. Sunday i'm gonna go watch some of the
41:44
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41:48
Speaker 2: Everybody we'll talk.
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