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L50 Live with Bigfoot Michigan Rob " BMR " · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's me Tom. So this episode was with
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  Speaker 1: Bigfoot Michigan Rob. He has. The reason he started his
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  Speaker 1: podcast was pretty There's quite a few situations that lended
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  Speaker 1: itself to that, and one was the story like that
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  Speaker 1: you'll hear on the show that is just phenomenally like insane.
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  Speaker 1: I guess you would say he was just a normal dude,
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  Speaker 1: a bar owner, and something happened in his life to
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  Speaker 1: which he had no control over. And you know, he had,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he had to deal with some things, change
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  Speaker 1: some things in his life, and then he just started
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  Speaker 1: his show. So it's a great show. He's a great host.
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  Speaker 1: I've actually learned a lot from him about how he
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  Speaker 1: you know, conducts himself and how he you know, how
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  Speaker 1: he interacts with the host and stuff. He's a really
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  Speaker 1: good guy. Gover and check out Bigfoot Michigan Rob and
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  Speaker 1: all your social media's and wherever you download your podcast.
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  Speaker 1: H yeah, you guys can also help me out, man,
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  Speaker 1: This is this is my show the I Jupiter and
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  Speaker 1: pleased to me a favorite and like just go and
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  Speaker 1: like you know, sub to the channel over on YouTube
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  Speaker 1: leave me a rating. You know, if you're listening to
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  Speaker 1: this on the MP three side, now this this part,
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  Speaker 1: this intro that you'll only find here on the MP
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  Speaker 1: three side. It's very interesting, this whole Bigfoot phenomenon, the
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  Speaker 1: things that I'm running into at this particular moment in
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  Speaker 1: this in this you know, when you start out, you
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  Speaker 1: you know you you you know, you learn about certain things,
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  Speaker 1: you hear about certain things, and then the more and
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  Speaker 1: more I like kind of get into this subject, the
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  Speaker 1: more like insane and odd it becomes. And uh, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know where I stand on the whole thing. I'm
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  Speaker 1: definitely a believer in it because just because of the
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  Speaker 1: validity of when I say validity in other words, that
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  Speaker 1: I trust these people and when they come on there,
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  Speaker 1: you can see that they're genuinely bothered. You know, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people don't even go int the woods anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I mean not even just to hunt officially, just don't
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  Speaker 1: go anywhere at all. They just kind of stay in
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  Speaker 1: their cars and if they have a travel down the road,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they just go one place to the other
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  Speaker 1: and they can't even look off the sides into the woods.
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  Speaker 1: And that's how much this has kind of like struck
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  Speaker 1: them as being, you know, not as being but like
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  Speaker 1: struck them, you know, like interrupted their lives. I guess
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  Speaker 1: you would say. So that's the reason why I kind
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  Speaker 1: of believe in this, I wouldn't say, kind of do,
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  Speaker 1: and hopefully one day and I'm able to afford to
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  Speaker 1: go there and meet up with some of these people
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  Speaker 1: that I've become friends with through this last year of podcasting.
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  Speaker 1: So if anything you guys can do to help the show,
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  Speaker 1: share it all those kind of things be greatly appreciated.
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  Speaker 1: If you have a story, you know, you can send
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  Speaker 1: it to me in the email at Theigubrater podcast at
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  Speaker 1: gmail dot com, or you know, you can just contact
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  Speaker 1: me over Facebook or the Facebook group if you'd like to,
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  Speaker 1: just hey, Tom, you know, write me and I'll have
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  Speaker 1: you on the show, or you know, at least read
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  Speaker 1: your letter and correspond with you. Just try to help
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  Speaker 1: you out. So I hope you guys enjoy this one.
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  Speaker 1: This was a this was a good episode in the
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  Speaker 1: sense that is just very interesting. So enjoy this one
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  Speaker 1: with Bigfoot Michigan.
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  Speaker 2: Rob.
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  Speaker 1: Come back to the I Jupiter Lied. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 1: Time Franklin. Today we have on Rob from Bigfoot Michigan
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  Speaker 1: Rob or Brunch with Bigfoot Michigan Rob. And he's going
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  Speaker 1: to introduce himself. If you guys do not know who
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  Speaker 1: he is already, and you're gonna find out a little
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  Speaker 1: bit about him. He's a cool guy. He had me
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  Speaker 1: on the show recently. We had a great time. We
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  Speaker 1: talked about myths and legends and monsters of the Yucatan
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  Speaker 1: I think he called it, and that was a really
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  Speaker 1: fun episode. You can go around his channel like and
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  Speaker 1: subscribe to it and go ahead and check out that episode.
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  Speaker 1: If you keep finding yourself coming back to the show,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and you know, live the thumbs up, bell notifications,
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  Speaker 1: all those good things. You can find me on Rumble.
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  Speaker 1: You can download me on any of your your MP
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  Speaker 1: three type formats as you enjoy listening to me as
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  Speaker 1: you sell your pepsi and coke products in your truck.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I like to say. This is a live guys.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to help support channel, please go ahead
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  Speaker 1: and make sure you can click on the super chat
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  Speaker 1: so you can also go back and do super Thanks.
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  Speaker 1: All those things helped me continue to do what I do.
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  Speaker 1: You can also go down to the bottom and get
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  Speaker 1: yourself some merchandise. I have some hat, some T shirts.
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  Speaker 1: I also have a mug over there and a poster,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that's pretty much everything. And yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: all the h that's all the homework we had to do,
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  Speaker 1: So let's bring them on walcome to the show. Everybody
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  Speaker 1: big for Michigan.
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  Speaker 2: Rob, Hey Man, I'm seven, Tom well.
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  Speaker 1: Z Man, thanks for coming on the show, buddy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I was burning my britches at both ends.
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  Speaker 2: I normally do a show on Friday nights to I
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  Speaker 2: do a counter show, and I started that usually at six,
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  Speaker 2: and I knew I was coming on this show, so
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  Speaker 2: I started that an hour earlier. So I just got
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  Speaker 2: done with Bally literally ten minutes ago. Okay, though, is
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  Speaker 2: I had a pretty good crowd, so I I shouted
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  Speaker 2: you out two or three times. I said, Hey, when
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  Speaker 2: I'm done with this, go check out the Ia Jupiter,
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  Speaker 2: Tom Franklins. I'll be going over there right after this,
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  Speaker 2: So hopefully you get some of the people that we
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  Speaker 2: in my chat room and listening would hopefully come out
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  Speaker 2: over So hopefully it helps you out a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: bringing some more traffic.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. You know, every little bit helps man, that's
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  Speaker 1: what we're here to do. It's like, you know, we
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  Speaker 1: don't do the crabs in a bucket thing, man. We
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  Speaker 1: try to promote everybody and bring them one forth into
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  Speaker 1: the light that way to get to see you know,
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  Speaker 1: the type of content that we bring out.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: Uh do ever do introduce yourself a little bit, tell
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  Speaker 1: us a little about and where we can find you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no problem, thanks Tom of course BMR Bigfoot
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  Speaker 2: Mission Rob. Yeah you know, uh yeah, I do have
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  Speaker 2: a YouTube channel, you know, Bigfoot Mission Rob. It's YouTube.
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  Speaker 2: It's easy Bigfoot Mission Rob type of the YouTube. Wrote
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  Speaker 2: two books, True Crypto Encounters Book one and two. You
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  Speaker 2: can find those on Amazon again, and so I set
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  Speaker 2: it up so easy. Bigfoot Mission Rob is all my platforms,
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  Speaker 2: so on Amazon if you want to check out the
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  Speaker 2: books there, that's the channel name. And we're podcasts. I
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  Speaker 2: think you do podcasting two. Tom, We're on Spreaker. iHeart
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  Speaker 2: radio so all over the place. I got a Facebook
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  Speaker 2: group Brunch to a big Foot Mission Rob. I noticed
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  Speaker 2: you put the links thank you in here. I really
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  Speaker 2: love that time because I do it. You know, when
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  Speaker 2: I have guests on I always put my guest links
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  Speaker 2: most of their links YouTube, Facebook, whatever. And I saw
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  Speaker 2: you did that for me, which I'm really I I
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  Speaker 2: really appreciate that a lot of people don't do that.
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  Speaker 2: I make a point to do that. I did that
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  Speaker 2: for you. You did it for me. I appreciate that because
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's about spreading the good word and get
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  Speaker 2: helping our smaller channels grow, right, And that's what it's
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  Speaker 2: all about me personally. I never expected to do a
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  Speaker 2: YouTube channel on cryptids.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, kind of, I up. It's a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more of a you know, kind of more of a
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  Speaker 1: shovel to the face kind of Rake to the FaceTime
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  Speaker 1: and Jerry style.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, a little bit about me and in the
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  Speaker 2: crypto world. Yeah, you know, I went to college, all
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  Speaker 2: that good stuff. I owned a borrow for thirteen years.
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  Speaker 2: I worked for Ford's Motor Company, Ford Motor Company, and
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  Speaker 2: and I have a consulting firm today. Today. What I
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  Speaker 2: do is I again, I didn't own a bar for
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  Speaker 2: thirteen years, and I it's not a big company or anything.
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  Speaker 2: I started about last year. I got the idea actually
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  Speaker 2: watching this show called I forgot the name of the show, right,
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  Speaker 2: John Tapper. He's a it's a show where he goes
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  Speaker 2: in he takes these crampy restaurants and bars and offers.
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  Speaker 1: Him Oh yeah, yeah, and I know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: I remember that.
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  Speaker 2: So I got the idea from this guy like last
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  Speaker 2: year because when I sold my business, I kind of
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  Speaker 2: took some time off and then I started my YouTube channel, right,
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  Speaker 2: and then I said, I mean I gotta get some
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  Speaker 2: extra income. I mean I haven't worked from a you know,
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  Speaker 2: a legitimate job. Okay, you know what, right, And so
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  Speaker 2: I started going into I can sell bars. Now. I
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  Speaker 2: go in and I charged my fee. If you want
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  Speaker 2: me to help you out, there's what I charged. And
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  Speaker 2: it's most of people that I go market them. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: if you need help, if you're getting your bars started,
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  Speaker 2: you know I offered. I did it for thirteen years
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  Speaker 2: and my bar was pretty successful. I sold it right
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  Speaker 2: at the end of COVID, right the start of COVID
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  Speaker 2: and things eating day after I signed the papers and
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  Speaker 2: sold it. Wow, six months the guy went out of
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  Speaker 2: business because fortuitous, uh, you know, for you, but you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: bad for the guy because the guy hold it too.
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  Speaker 2: He lost the business to six months thirty two hundred
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  Speaker 2: bars and restaurants in my staying alone were shut down. Bro.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I can't even get into that because
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  Speaker 1: like the that that that will all be on rumble,
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  Speaker 1: the amount of anger that I have with that, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's like the whole reason why I'm here. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you remember that, but that's why I'm even
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  Speaker 1: here in Mexico to begin with. So yeah, dude, that's it's.
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  Speaker 1: It was hard on everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was pretty hard. I feel bad for the guy,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I didn't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course he didn't.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't prognosticate anything, you know, I'm out of mind reader,
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  Speaker 2: or predict the future typic of it. I got lucky
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  Speaker 2: unfortunately that guy, you know, feel bad for him. And
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  Speaker 2: now I'm pissed because it was a great bar. It
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  Speaker 2: was a haunted bar too, okay, And but now you
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  Speaker 2: know what they turned it into. I mean, it went
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  Speaker 2: through several changes of hand since I sold it in
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty. You know what they did, man, they they
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  Speaker 2: it was such a great place, great piece of property.
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  Speaker 2: They leveled it. They turned it into a mini marked
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  Speaker 2: guest Oh my god, like we need another guests.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure you got those roads in
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  Speaker 1: Detroit too, And like Baltimore, there's certain roads, the four
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  Speaker 1: lane roads, which is parking lots, and you know, all
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  Speaker 1: your supermarkets and all your fast food and all your
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  Speaker 1: gas and all that, and it's just it's a little
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  Speaker 1: bit overdone. And then you you know, and then you
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  Speaker 1: take a place probably it's probably an older building that
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  Speaker 1: you had.
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  Speaker 2: Well. Yeah, it was built back in the days during
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  Speaker 2: your prohibition.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, and it was used.
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  Speaker 2: As speakeasy and there was a lot of gangster activity.
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  Speaker 2: And I only know this because I never researched that
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  Speaker 2: until what I saw in the bar some apparitions that
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  Speaker 2: appeared to be apparitions from the gangster era. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: and and lo and behold. I did some research and
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  Speaker 2: it was in fact a place where you know that
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  Speaker 2: that conducted. And the thing is it was built. The
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  Speaker 2: foundation was back from the nineteen thirties. Since then, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of things have been down there, you know, remodeling.
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  Speaker 2: You know that the exterior, but the guts of it,
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  Speaker 2: the guts was part of the land, so that never
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  Speaker 2: goes away, right, you know.
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  Speaker 1: They imagine like you knew if it was a speakeasy
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  Speaker 1: and then you had the foundation in there. That means
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  Speaker 1: that all that happened in the foundation of that bar.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, correct, Yeah, so, and I'm still a little bit partial.
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  Speaker 2: I was talking an hour and a half NonStop last
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  Speaker 2: but but so camera to roll. But you know, so
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  Speaker 2: that's that. I mean, that's I don't really like bringing
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  Speaker 2: that up too much. I stuff pain in my heart
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  Speaker 2: over that. But so going back to what we're going
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  Speaker 2: to talk about. You know, I never wanted to do
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  Speaker 2: I thought i'd do a podcast. I was thinking about
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  Speaker 2: doing a sports podcast though I'm a big sports fan
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  Speaker 2: as well. But throughout my lifetime I've had experiences and
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  Speaker 2: it's it's funny because I had my bigfoot counter. I'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about that. But leading up to that, though, dude,
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  Speaker 2: I had a lot of paranoial experiences. Growing up five
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  Speaker 2: or six, I saw my first ghosts. Seven or eight,
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  Speaker 2: I saw a UFO, which actually was legit. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how legit it was, but it made the news
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  Speaker 2: where I lived. Uh that that that that evening, I
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  Speaker 2: saw my mom rushed me and my brother out of
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  Speaker 2: the bedroom like an hour before school. My Mom's running,
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  Speaker 2: come come, boys, Come, Robbie Davey. My brother's Dave. I'm Robb,
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  Speaker 2: you know. And mom, you know us as kids, we
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  Speaker 2: don't want to get up. We know when we get
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  Speaker 2: up for school, we don't want we want to sleep.
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  Speaker 2: You just get your asses out of bed, Mama says,
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  Speaker 2: and we run. We look out and she says, what
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  Speaker 2: do you guys see up there? And we look out
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  Speaker 2: the back of the window, and sure enough, Tom, there's
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  Speaker 2: a I call it back then, a flying saucer hovering
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  Speaker 2: in the yard. Man. And that was like nine perhaps,
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  Speaker 2: and everyone's neighbor. So yeah, so we all saw. Me
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  Speaker 2: and my brother. We run downstairs, we run outside in
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  Speaker 2: the yard and we're looking up at this thing. Now
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  Speaker 2: it was probably I'm so bad with telling people feet,
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  Speaker 2: but it was probably at least. So I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 2: with the yards. I can more equate yards just when
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  Speaker 2: I do distance, because it's easy one hundred yards the
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  Speaker 2: football field. So this thing was probably hovering up maybe
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  Speaker 2: two hundred yards. Yeah, yeah, it was pretty sizable and
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  Speaker 2: then it boom vanished.
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  Speaker 1: So very often the accounts that I've been running into.
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  Speaker 1: I had on a guy, uh from Squatching Holler, Roger Williams,
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  Speaker 1: and he said he had the same thing, or I
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  Speaker 1: had on uh Neil ballast and it's just like it's
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  Speaker 1: just hovering along. You see it. As soon as you
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  Speaker 1: see it, it leaves like a streak in the sky. Sometimes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. In fact, there was just in Chicago O'Hare airport.
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  Speaker 2: This is two or three years ago. You've probably seen
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  Speaker 2: it there where there was the same thing. A UFO
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  Speaker 2: was hovering over at the at the airport. And and
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  Speaker 2: it's so funny how they wax all the records time.
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  Speaker 2: It's just despicable. Uh And an event is so fast
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  Speaker 2: it went up into the clouds and left a permit
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  Speaker 2: a circle in the clouds. Oh wow, when it blasted
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  Speaker 2: through it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I mean they do that with everything though,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like did did JFK files dropped a couple
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  Speaker 1: of days ago. I think there's like eighty thousand pages
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  Speaker 1: or some yeah, annoyment yet I haven't looked into it. No,
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  Speaker 1: I've been working. I literally have worked in the last
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  Speaker 1: three days about twenty seven hours. I'm pushing it over here,
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  Speaker 1: you know, So I haven't had time to actually do it,
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  Speaker 1: but I would definitely want to. I kind of want
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  Speaker 1: to let somebody else kind of go through it and
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  Speaker 1: then kind of parse that out for myself. But I
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  Speaker 1: did have one m K Davis last week and we
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  Speaker 1: talked about it. It was kind of weird, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: we had that, you know, the podcast last Friday, and
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  Speaker 1: then the drop was on Tuesday. So that's that was
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  Speaker 1: pretty weird.
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  Speaker 2: I was up K feeling. I understand he was ill.
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  Speaker 2: Is he feeling better?
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  Speaker 1: He's doing better. He had an operation on a certain
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  Speaker 1: area of his body, and I contacted him personally and
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  Speaker 1: asked him how he was doing, and he said, he's
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  Speaker 1: feeling He's not out of woods yet, but he's doing better.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, our thoughts and you know, prayers go
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  Speaker 1: out to our buddy MK.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I reached. He was on Now with me last
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  Speaker 2: year and we had a cool show. Anybody wants to
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  Speaker 2: check in archives. We've talked about what happened after the
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  Speaker 2: Patty experience. You know, there's these rumors that Patty and
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  Speaker 2: her children were skinned alive.
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  Speaker 1: Whoa that I didn't know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he don't like talking about it, and he
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  Speaker 2: didn't say it per se on the show.
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  Speaker 1: Right right right right through the I had him go
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  Speaker 1: through the whole Pattison Gimlin film and it was I
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  Speaker 1: learned so that dude is meticulous. He loved he loves
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  Speaker 1: what he does, and he's very good at presenting it.
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  Speaker 1: And just the braid in the hair, I never seen
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  Speaker 1: that before, Like the braid. There's a braid here in
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  Speaker 1: the front and he h he showed me that. That
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  Speaker 1: blew my mind. He's he's he's fantastic man, and we
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  Speaker 1: and everyone over here wishes him the best.
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  Speaker 2: He's just he's just great. Yeah, he's he's pretty cool guys.
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  Speaker 2: So so anyway, so yeah, so my entire life, I've
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  Speaker 2: had paranoal encounters, ghosts, ghosts as a kid, the UFO
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  Speaker 2: as a kid, the same ghosts followed me to my
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  Speaker 2: marital home, whoa. Then at my mayoral home with the wife,
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  Speaker 2: we saw shadow people.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna to go through that home one day.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have you back on a weeknd.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: All that and then that was like when I was
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: in my mid to late twenties when I saw the
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: shadow people when I was married, and the ghosts prior
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: to being married, and then of course the ghosts at
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: my bar. Yeah at the bar. Now, I saw the
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: ghosts at my bar back in twenty eighteen. It was
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: funny because in twenty eighteen, that is when I had
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: the big.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Foot counter, okay, you know, which was really.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Kind of like catapulted me and to start studying all
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: this stuff because I figured that of all the weirdnesses
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: I've experienced, I never I never really put a less
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: stock into a time for a reason. Even when I
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: had the shadow, people had a psychic medium over it said,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: we have a Melville entity in the house that we
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: picked up because my wife and I used to shop
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: at antique shops and thrift stores, and so we collected
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: all these weird objects man, and we put them into
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: boxes and we stored them all the way in the garage.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: And so what we did when we it was our
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: first house together, and then in our four year of
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: the house, we turned that into the room to put
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: all this stuff. So we eventually purchased all these curio
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: cabinets and such to put the artifacts in. But that
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: was leave it at that. I'll tell you about the
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: encounter story first. Everybody likes to hear that, and I've
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: never done that on your show, have I I don't
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: think i've.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Bet uh No, you've never been on my show no pleas.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: You advertise this, I'll tell the people. A lot of
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: people probably we might we probably have the same yet
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: different audiences. So but yeah, but it all started for
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: me and when I had my uh really, the Bigfoot
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: experience is why I do what I do today, because
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: what happened to me after all said and done, I
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: was lost. I was alone knowing, you know, I thought
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: that people were trying to make a name off of me,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: and people don't believe me, and I was embarrassed to
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: tell people what I saw and that one day I
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: want to Sasquatch chronicles and told this story because I
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: was told that, you know, Robbie should probably get that
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: out because you'll feel a lot better. Yeah, you know,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: and it's the best advice I was ever given, because
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: there's almost like therapeutic.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Right right. I think that happens with a lot of people,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: you know. I've had a lot of people, you know,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: you know, not maybe exactly first timers, but like people
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: who started started making a rounds, like Harley Owens and
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: what's his name, uh, Darren Darren Franks. And there's another
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: gentleman too this I'll time about Pablo or some he
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: uses a pseudonym, so that's why I can't remember it.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: And when they come on, you know, they they you know,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: they're a little bit you know, skittish to kind of
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: you know, keep their business a little bit, and then
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: they you know, I try to make them feel welcome
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: and they become It becomes very very interesting episodes and
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: a lot of times it helps people to go back
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: out into the into nature and do their fishing or
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: they're hunting whatever is they like to do, because these
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: experiences can be so traumatic.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'll tell my mine wasn't really that traumatic
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: because of what happened. It's just what unfolds in my story.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: And uh I I've told this story like a thousand times.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Whenever i'm my podcast for the first time, I usually
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: tell that because it's really what set me on my path,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: pulled everything together for me, and what happened to me.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Man took place in the Manistee National Forest. Now it
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: was on Lake Cadillac, which is in Wexford, Michigan. And
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: this was June fifteenth of twenty and eighteen. Okay, And
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: I'll never forget. There's two dates I won't forget in
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: my lifetime. June fifteenth, of twenty eighteen and August fifteenth
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: of twenty eighteen. And anyway, so I was dating this girl,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: my girlfriend, and name was Cindy. We've been dating for
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: maybe almost two years. And I'm more of a I'm
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: an outdoorsy type of guy. I like to be out
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: in the woods, do a little camping this that. I
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: like to fish, not so much a hunter, percent say,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: more of a fisherman type of guy. But I just
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: like just to be out hiking and this, that and
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: the other. And I love water in the lakes. I
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: live in the Great Lakes State, of course. So I said, Sidney, hey, listen,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: I plan this trip. We're going to Cadillac, Michigan. We're
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: gonna go out, do a little hiking, and we're gonna
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: do some fishing. She's like, what, Yeah, you know that
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: was the first response because she was not into that
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: at all.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's not many women who really are, but not
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: as much as I.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Listen, my brother beautiful wife. I've known her since high school.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: She don't my brother haunts and fishes. She down, That's okay,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I said, look, you know, at least this is what
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: I'm all about. So at least one time we're going, Okay,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I'll go. Plus, it was cool because Cadillac it's a
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: quint cool time. They've got a lot of things that
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: women like to do. There's a lot of cool antique shops.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of all cool little shops.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: It's something to do for everybody. Once we got that done,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: she can do her thing out in town. So anyway,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: what I did was I rented this little cabin and
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: I went out and I went rented a fishing a
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: small skiff type fishing boat. Nothing inexpensive, nothing really big.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: It was like maybe an eight footer. And when I
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: say a skiff, dude, I mean you can fall out
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: of it. Okay, I mean it was not. It was
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: maybe a set eight inches out of the water. Now
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Lake Cadillac, though it is part of Missioner's Lake Cadillac,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: and the adjoining lake is called Lake Mitchell. They're very
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: big lakes. They're huge so and lake. So anyway, we
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: get we get to we get to the place early
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: in the morning. It's the middle of the week, June
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: June fifteenth, and so we get I get to skip
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: together and we get out and we get on the
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: we get on Lake kille Now Lake Kellac is surrounded
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: by a lot of backs up this entire property, This
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: entire area is inside of the Manistee National Forest and
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: the Manissee National Forest, which I learned later. It's got
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: a lot of history with First nations, okay, curses, tainted lands,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: things like that. I never knew any of this until
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: five years ago.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, actually when I whenever, I actually had heard your
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: story before, and I, you know, you tell you tell
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: it so well, and I, you know, I'm a guy
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: who loves geography. I actually looked it up. Yeah, because
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: you told me a certain thing that you're about to say,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: and I was like, oh wow, okay, this is this
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: is very accurate what he's saying, guys, at least about
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: where he's, where he's going, and about the land itself.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: So it's it's pretty wild, you know, it is a
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: wild story. And so so anyway, Lake Hadillac it's surrounded
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: by a lot of nice, beautiful homes, million dollar homes,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars homes, small businesses. Maybe it's a
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: little bit of industry, big expansive lake. So Cindy and
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: I areun on the lake and we're out fishing, and uh,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: of course we started about ten in the morning, and
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: I said, my plan was to get out there time
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: at like six in the morning to go.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Here.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: We are at ten o'clock launching the boat. So anyway, whatever,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: I was just class. She was with me, and we're out.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: It was a great day, man. And so we're our
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: ants are fishing and man, we didn't even get a bite.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: There's nothing, there's no one on the lake. It's the
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: middle of the week, everyone's working. It's not a holiday,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: you know. It's just cool me here, and I had
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: a whole lake to herself. So an hour goes by
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: and she's getting bored, and frankly, I'm bored too, because
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: we didn't even get a nibble. Says, you know, let's
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: just let's explore around the lake. Let's just take this
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: little boat around the lake. So we're driving boating around
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: the lake and then we come up other side of
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: the lake to where maybe the west there's this canal.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: So I cut through this canal and at least to
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: now Lake Mitchell, Okay, which is another just as big
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: as Cadillac. The nice thing about Mitchell though, Lake Mitchell
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: is there's not as many homes. It's not as busy,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: more secluded, and the backdrop of the manissee National Force.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: It is like there, I mean, because it's not built
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: up as much as there beautiful. So so we're still
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: tooling around the lake and then I get further down
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: the lake and then it turns part of this lake
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: turns into like a big a cove, you know, or
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: a little bay, perhaps more of a bay, I would say.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: And so I kind of start drifting the boat. Were
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: perhaps ninety feet from shoreline, so we're very close to shore.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: And now I decide I'm going to take the fishing
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: gear and redo everything, change the lures over this, that
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: and the other. Okay, So Cindy is kind of looking
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: looking around standing up on a boat, you know. So
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: I'm looking down and you know, blah blah blah this
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: that and the other. And Cindy says to me, hey, Ron,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: I think someone's strolling rocks at the boat, like, okay, really,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: And I look up to the shore line. I said,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: there's nobody on the shoreline. In fact, I'm like, there's
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: not even a beach on the shore line. It's kind
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: of like the forest drop right into the water, you know,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: it just cuts off and it's there right right. There
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: was a section perhaps where you could where it was
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: kind of cleared out, where maybe you could put a
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: picnic table there, and maybe you could have a group
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: of four or five people hang out, you know, drink
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: some beers or whatever. But that was really it. So
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I go back. I say, well, it's probably fish jumping around.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know, so I kind of blow her off.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: I go back, putting the loure around, maybe thirty forty
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: seconds later, and she's like, more emphatically, raph someone's throwing
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: rocks at the boat. I'm like, okay, I look up
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: once again. Nothing there this debt and the other I said, Cindy, honey,
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: you know there's no one there. Hey listen, I say,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: let me finish this. Then I'll look up and look
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: with you. Maybe you're right. I don't know. So I
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: go again, back to configuring the lure, the tackle, whatever
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: the reason. And I always have to tell this to
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: everybody listening. I gotta paint this picture to you. It's
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: a beautiful day. The sky is not a cloud of sky,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: it's a brilliant blue sky. The sun is beating down
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: the backdrop of this forest, is brilliant green, beautiful forest colors,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: and for whatever reason, hapt to peer up, looking to
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: look up, and I see something falling out of the sky. Literally,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what the hell and it's it's about the
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: rock the size of a baseball that weighs about three
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: to four feet right in front of the boat. I'm like,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: holy shit. So I'm like, I go to Cindy. I'm
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: kind of like going to kind of apologize, like, yeah,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: that's a rock. So I looked at Cindy and and
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I see her standing there and she's affixiated at the
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: shoreline and she's staring at something. And I've got to say,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Tom that this is June fifteenth, and she's the sun goddess.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: She already had a ripping tan from head to toe,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: bronze skin right all right. She's also Italian, so it
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: really enhances her skin. Her body's white head to toe.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: She's like drained of all her color. And I'm like,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: what is she seeing? What's she looking at? So I
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: look to the shoreline and there's this creature. And I
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: see creature. It's standing there in the open. It's literally
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: like nine feet tall, man is from standing there with
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: its arms on its side. It's literally, like I said,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: and I almost nine feet tall. I just say nine
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: feet tall, you know, because I get I'm trying to
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: discern reddish coat of this beautiful, brilliant reddish brown hair
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: from head to toe. But again, I'm pretty dang close.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: I'm ninety feet and I kind of look at the
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: front of the chest was like gray, not as much
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: air there. And his face, man, this face was gray,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: but it was beaten up. It was like almost you
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: could see I can see description in the face, like
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: wrinkled and the face and as I'm looking closer, as
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: appearing a little closer, drifting, it's it's just being hanging
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: out there. And it kind of looked odd. It looked
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: like it looked like a human being right in a sense,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: not like your eye, but it resembled a human. And
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: it had these opaque eyes and they're kind of offset.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: One was lower than the other. It was kind of
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: form looking. It kind of looked like it was a
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: human with a stroke, and it looked like an old dude.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Just then for the hell.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: You know, yeah, and I'm like wow, And then before
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: you know it, this thing whatever it is, kind of
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: rolls back its shoulders, and it lifts its arms parallel
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: to the lake.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: And dips his head back and kind of like the
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: shoulders pop up a little bit more pronounced. And now
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: that the face I had just describe human ish got all,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: it got all taughts. It leads back in his face
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: rolls over almost like a deep purple. The eyes roll
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: over black. It drops his jaw literally, it's not like
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: drops it like half a foot six inches exposed, a
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: set of teeth up top and on the bottom. That's
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: all I can see. Opens the mouth and you could
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: feel like two softballs in it. But then now what
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: happens is all of a sudden, this scream, this yell,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: and this guttural sound just explodes from its lungs, man,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: from everything that's got inside it, and it's projected right
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: at me and Cindy. And as it's doing this this vocalization,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: I can literally feel the vibe reverberation hit me. And
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: I'm out at this point, I'm standing up with Cindy
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: at this.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: And this is ninety feet this is ninety feet.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Away, feet away, man, and I mighty's drifted even closer
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: to really getting better. Look right, I'll sell in the beginning,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: but I always say ninety is the reference point, you know,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: And I kind of stumble back just a little bit. Cindy,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: who's all five one, one hundred and nine pounds, falls
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: into the water falls off the boat.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: So, okay.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: The reason why I tell everybody I make the description
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: of how beautiful the blue, the greens, the everything. There's
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: a reason I say that because the moment it opens
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: his mouth and roars, yells, screams whatever, and she falls in.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: I used to take a little stumble now, and the
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: course the creature when it made that contortion of his face,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: it looked now not like that human. It looked like
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: a demon to me, you know, it looked to me
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: at this time in twenty eighteen, I'm thinking demon, something
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: of a Marvel comic book. Right, Oh, it looks totally
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: different than the earlier. But now I can't see properly.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Now My vision is contorted or distorted. I see like
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: it's almost like I'm looking through this filter, and the
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: colors dissipate. They all get all greeny, almost black and white.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: The beautiful blue sky gray, the backdrop of the green
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: forest gray. The colors of this creature gray, and it
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: seemed like time stood still or slowed down immensely.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: And and I'm now and I can't figure out what's
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: going on with my brain, with my vision, but I know,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: and now I have to move to my right to
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: get Cindy. I can't move, dude, I'm paralyzed. I'm trying
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: to move to my right to get her. She knows
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: how to swim. Still, I got to get her in
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: the boat, you know. So, but I can't get to her,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: and I'm frozen. I can't move, and so I'm shaking
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: my head. I started just kind of eventually, I'm trying
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: to shake my head. Then my head kind of breaks
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: free a little bit all of a sudden. Now, you know,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I get my cognizance back. I mean, now the colors
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: are coming back. That slow motion whatever came back to reality.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: I guess.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I get her in the boat. Now I look to
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: the shoreline for this creature, whatever the hell it is.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: And now I'm kind of scared even more because now
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: it's gone. I don't know where it's at. I don't
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: know what this is, Tom, I don't know it's swimming,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: you know, underwater, wants to get us.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Right, I didn't even think of that. I was thinking
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: like too, like you're you're you You're like paralyzed on
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: the boat, and you have to be thinking what is
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: she doing in the water.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: I'm if she's paralyzed, she's drownding right right in that
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: state I was in. If I was in the water
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: and I know how to swim, I drowned right something.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: If she's like me and then she's ft, yeah, you know,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: step out of it, like I said, and it's gone.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: I get in the boat and I'm like where. I
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: don't know where this creature is? Whatever the hell this
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: thing is. So I whipped the boat around and I
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: opened up that throttle as big as I can. It
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: was like a hell. It was like an oversized trolling boator. Yeah,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: it was not even fifty horsepower. I don't know, whatever
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: the hell it wan do. I jettison as fast as
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: I can. I gun it towards on this lake Mitchell,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: and I get back to that canal, get through the canal,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: take the canal. I'm ont of the Cadillac, and I
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: get to a place where I launched the boat earlier.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so I get it. I finally, you know,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: docked the boat, and I immediately get up. I said,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: the hell this boat. I get Cindy about of the boat,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: and she's still freezing cold, freezing cold, and I look
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: for some place to go go inside and sit. Man.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: I mean's eighty degrees but she's cold as hell, and
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: I could feel her body is still traveling cold and
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of cold, a little bit more from chill,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: more from shock, probably right.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's still like you said, this happened the
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: fifteenth of June. You know, if you're in Michigan, Like,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: I'm sure the water isn't that war maybe with sixty
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: degrees sixty five degrees maybe probably, yeah.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: But it's it's probably, but but the warmth of the
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: sun is awesome. But when you fall in that water,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: it's still cold, right, you know. Yeah, so yeah, a
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: good point on that one. I didn't even think how
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: cold the water was. I wasn't in the water, but
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: I just well, you learned some new tidbit all the time,
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: so the water was pretty frozen.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: It's so strange too, like every time you tell your account,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: like you know my accounts, so every time I tell them,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: like why was that standing up? Oh yeah, because you know,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: and then there's things that come to you because it's
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: happened so fast, and then you tell it, so you
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: you know, incidentally might glancing over a thing that you
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: haven't thought of.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, there's a twenty minute story, and the encounter
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: probably was under twenty seconds, right, you know. Really, So
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: so anyway, I get her out and we get up
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: and we start walking and I see immediately pretty about
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: a half a block up, I see on the corner
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: there's this like bar restaurant type set up. I'm like, cool,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: let's go here. So we're both, you know, walking toward it,
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: and we go inside the bar and I looked to
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: the right and there's like two people on the end
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: at the bar, at the end of the bar. Other side,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: there's nobody else on the right side. But I looked
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: at the left and there was like more booths and
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: stuff you know, to sit in and whatever. And in
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: the far left corner, there in the very back, I
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: see an empty booth. Well, the whole place was empty.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: I took the furthest one from everybody, you know, even
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: though there's hardly nobody in there. So we sit down.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: We're at this corner booth and young girl bar maide waitress,
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: walk comes up to us what you have and she,
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: you know, looks at Cindy first. You know, they always
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: you know, and Cindy Tom you know she I never
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: I dated her almost going on two years. I owned
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: a bor. Never seen her drink or drop now once
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: in my bar, not ever out together, never drank. So
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I'm guessing she's not a drinker. She's told me any fact,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: she wasn't a drinker. In fact, her mom, her mom
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: play plays a role in this, and you'll find out
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: later where your audience will you probably remember her mom
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: hated me. I was the devil time because I owned
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: a bar. Her mom could not stand me. I'd call
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: her and Sidney and I did not live together either.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: She lived with her mom and I had my house.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: And you know her mom got mad if she spent
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: the night, for God's sakes. And she's forty years older. Woman,
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: just telling you, and so okay here we anyway just put.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: A little background into a foreshadowing. I got you exactly.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: So So anyway, Cindy of have a bottle of bud
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Light and a shot Jack Daniels. I'm like, damn, I know,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: I know she's messed up. I go, I go. The
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: bar lady goes to me, and she says, what do
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: you have? And I said, that's the same, but I'll
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: have to make mine a double. So the waitress comes back.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: You Cindy her bottle of bud light, shot of Jack,
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: and I get two shots of Jack, two bottles of light, right, Cindy.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: And now during this time, we're not even speaking. We're
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: just still processing it. We don't even see it boot right, Yeah,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: we can't even formulate a sentence. I think we were
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: lucky to order our drinks at this point.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Right, understandable.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: So Cindy takes that shot. Jack daniels back like a champ,
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: like she'd been drinking for twenty years, takes that bottle
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: of butt leg. She guns half of it down, it down.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking of my damn, I do my shot, drink
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: some of my beer. Now we're looking at each other
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: and Cindy says to me, honey, what do you think
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: that was? And I, of course say, I don't know, honey,
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: what do you think that was? I repeat her words.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: She goes, I don't know, though, but I think maybe
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: it's that bigfoot creature. Now in all our time spent
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: together in those two years, we never ever once talked
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: about like Bigfoot and stuff like that, right, I, as
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: a kid knew about Bigfoot, and I thought that maybe
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot did exist. I saw In Search of with Leonard Nimoy,
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: you know, and then I seen the Patterson Gimbn film,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: so I knew about it, and that as a kid
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: growing up was always big in the monsters my dad
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: produced me as a young age to the black and
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: white films An Chaney, The Wolfman, Frankenstein's Monster, Borist, Karloff,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: or Bella Lagosi with Dracula. So I love monsters from
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: a young age. Not I was always a fan. But
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: in Bigfoot too, I knew about Bigfoot. So I go,
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know, honey, maybe it was that Bigfoot creature.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: I said, I don't. I just don't know. I don't,
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know. And then she says to me, hey, Rob,
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: do you think that we should call the sheriff for
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: the police or the DNR reported And at this point
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: in time, I'm like, well, now, I don't know. I
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: don't know if they'll believe us. You know, this is
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: the first thought, and it's always the first thought that
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: comes in anybody since I've learned over the years why
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: people are hate to come forward is you don't be
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: made fun of, You don't be judged. This guy's full
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: of crap, you know, you know what I mean, that's
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: the first thing I'm thinking. I said, no, I we'll
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: just keep it to ourselves. So she goes, yeah, you're
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: probably right. So we tried to get into the day.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: You know, we tried to make the best of the situation,
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: but we just weren't into it. Man, She goes, this
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: is you know, let is go home, right, and so yeah,
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: so we go all the way back home, you know,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: and but you know what we did. We immerse ourselves
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: into you know, little quarterback research. You know, I'm sure
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: research for one. YouTube is something I never used except for.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Sports.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but well, actually I had a cool stereo system
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: piped up, so I watched like concerts on it. Oh okay,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I go back in the day and pull you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. That's what I used for I
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: didn't you know, turn on YouTube how to bake a cake,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: fixed flat tire, how to put a drywall? Didn't you know?
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Let alone that I know, they had channels and chat rooms.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: This is in twenty eighteen, so but I had the computer.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: We all had the computer back then. So we started
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: typing up bigfoot demons because I thought what I saw
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: was maybe a demon. And then I then I then
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: I did type bigfoot on YouTube, and so I saw
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: these different videos and stuff like that, and so we
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: just immersed ourselves in them, but nothing really eh, you know, resolved.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Patterson Gimblin said, this looks like nothing I saw, and
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: you know, nothing really matched up to what we saw.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: It was just kind of frustrating. So we're really heavy
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: ends and you know, not knowing anybody in the field because.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Your description, your description is so much different than any
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: other descriptions I've heard. You know, it's such a it's
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: such an app description, and it's also such a strange one,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: the way you talked about the eyes being offset.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and did ever send you the renditions? Am I? No,
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: you have not to you because Sabilla Irwin. I don't
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: know if you're familiar with her.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: I am, I am, I am. I was really good
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: at it.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: She's great at She's been on my show and done
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: a show showing all her work and told the stories
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: behind her work. She and I did both renditions of mine.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: It took us two weeks and about thirty hours of
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: time logging time to no kidding, because she got a lot.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: She got a ninety three percent accurate and that's rendition.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: I'll send them to you. I know I did. But anyways,
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: so anyway, where was I So? Okay, So we're going
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: through all this and not knowing anybody in the feel
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to that. I found some channels and none
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: of the people I associate with today, and there's this
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: nothing grab me. It was just like, eh, I don't
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: know about these people, you know, so kind of kind
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: of coming up with dead ends, kind of empty. So
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: as I mentioned the two dates, I'll never forget. It
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: was June fifteenth of twenty eighteen, and then August fifteenth
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: of twenty eighteen. That night I take to drop Cindy
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: off at her ma's house. I go home, get to bed,
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: go to bed. Next morning, my phone's ringing eight, nine
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning, whatever it was, And I answered
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: the phone. I don't know who the hell this was,
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: but it was Cindy's mom. Cindy's mom never calls me,
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: hates me. As I said earlier, right Rob Cidey passed
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: away in her sleeve. She had a heart.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Attack two months to today, to the date.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: June fifteenth, twenty eighteen was the Bigfoot counter. August eighteenth,
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: twenty eighteen was to her death.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: What was it? When was the last time you've seen
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: her before that?
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: That night, the seventeenth of August, my house, everything, that time,
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: we're hanging out together and we were looking up for
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot stuff. She goes, well, you better take me home
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: from my most hoars. You know, you know the mom.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: I say, I'll take you home, drop her off on home.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Big deal. So it was, you know that, twelve midnight
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: or whatever it was. And then about six hours, seven
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: hours later, her mom calls me. She's passed on Cindy
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: heart attack allegedly. So here's the thing I said, I
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: don't believe that for one minute. First of all, I
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: can't believe what she's telling me for one right, right,
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: city can't be dead heart attack. She don't drink, she
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: don't smoke, she don't do drugs unless she's a closet
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: somebody somebody that I don't not aware of, which I doubt.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: So Okay, Well, I'm gonna come over. No, you're not
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: coming over. And so, in fact, the day of her funeral,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: I wasn't allowed at her funeral. Oh my god, dude,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: both of her brothers cheering me away. Her mom made
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: sure of that. I could not get access to autopsy
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: reports because we're not married. So I don't even know
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: really what the truth is behind her death. And I
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: almost got in a fighting at my ass kicked by
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: her two older brothers because I said, this is ridiculous
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: of paying respects to my chick, my girlfriend, and here
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: you are so I could go to the funeral. I did.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know how she really her mom says, heart
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: to take, so I don't even know. It's a mystery.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: The mystery a bigfoot in this demon is one thing,
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: but the mystery my girlfriend's death is a founded the
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: problem now right because now I'm you know what I'm
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: thinking of tome this some bitch has something to do
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: with their death when we got hit with that. That
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: but it makes Yeah.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: You have to be Joe Friday from Dragonet. There's a
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: there's a difference, you know where that came from. You
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: two together.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's five foot one, one hundred and nine pounds.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: We got here with their ship. I'm thinking her argance
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: got messed up, sunk, and then you know, it took
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: two months for her to finally you know, go pass on, right,
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know, I'm thinking. So I'm blaming
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: this encounter. So as a result of this, I want
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: to go back there, blow up that whole place, right cough,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: A couple of buddies. We gotta go somewhere and I'll
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: look for something. We gotta bring your guns. What are
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: you talking about? Sell? Yeah? Yeah, I was at nuts right,
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: but we I did not do that. I didn't even
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: tell them why then though, it was like, but then
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: I got in a deep dark place. I started blaming
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: myself for death. I said, you know, I know she
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: don't like the fish. Why did I drag her out there?
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: Went to that guilt trip. If I wanted to talk
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: to her into something she didn't want to do, she'd
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: be alive today. Yes, So I went through that guilt
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: Well I did. I went to I went in a
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: dark place. I went to my work that I owned,
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: that bar, my bar manager. I said, here the keys
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: the shop. I don't I got some shit. I gotta
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: figure out. I can't get into it now. It's just
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: a long story here. The keys. Don't rip me off
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: when I come back to work. I'll come back to work.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: Just put all the money in the bank like always,
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: I'll be back. Don't rip me off. And I knew
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: he wouldn't. I've known the guy as long as I
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: owned the bar. He was a great, great guy, cool rob.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: I have no problem, boss man. You know they know
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: it's come back when you come back. I got it handled.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: So so yeah, so so I went dark six months. Man,
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: I didn't leave my house. I'm just on the computer.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: I'm on YouTube. I'm trying to figure things out. Got
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: a hold of nobody. Couldn't trust nobody. Plus I felt,
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: you know, weird, Yeah, you know, like, who's gonna believe
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: this tale? So I thought it was a tale. It's
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: a tale to me today it's a thousand percent. I
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: could care less when I tell it now, it's like
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: it happened. Whether you believe it or not, it happened.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: It's part of my life today.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: I don't believe in Bigfoot. I know him. I know.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: I even hard a hard time saying it's Bigfoot time
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: because just the way that whole process shakes out. I
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: still question if there was something other than bigfoot. You know,
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's a demon, but man, I still
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: I just say bigfoot is what else am I supposed
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: to call it? Right? I don't know? So that's the
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: whole thing I could come up with. But anyways, so yeah, man,
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: so I went six months dark. And when I say dark,
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: no mom, no dad calling him, no brother, no sister,
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: no best friend. They thought I was what's up with you? Man?
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: You know, they literally had to break into my house.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: They had got a key and let themselves in. And
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: I'm all, you know, not shaved. I mean literally I
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: was a mess. So anyway, so I got a hold
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: of some people. Was Carrie Arnold. I got a hold
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: of from a big foot out of sea. I don't
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: know if you know about him. Great guy man, he's
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: passed away. Now that's some peace. He had killed. He's
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: a he gotta killed his young guy too in his forties. Man,
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: you got him head on a driving home from work.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: But he has big foot out un and I and no,
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: and I found I came across his big foot encounter
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: and he had like, uh, a lot of subscribers too
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: on his channel. At this time, I'm like, Wow, this
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: guy's got like fifty thousand subscribers. Wow. But his but
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: his story kind of I related to his story because
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like mine but different. And he left.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: He always told people at the end of all the shows,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: he gave out his phone number, his personal cell phone number.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was that. He was that caring, so I
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: called him, Yeah, prehensive, I still thought he I talked
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: to this guy for five hours, Rob, You're not going crazy, man,
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: I believe what you saw.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then he directed me to some other people
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: that I found along the way, to other guy Duke Sullivan,
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: friend of mine, a couple other people, and then I
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: became that I found texts, we became friend. So then
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: I found a group of people that trusted me, you know,
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: didn't trust me, believed in me, and knew that I
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: wasn't nuts and making stuff up, and just you know,
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: we're compassionate about the loss, right man. And then so
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: getting back to where I'm at today. The whole reason
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: behind my channel and I wanted to be a sports
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: channel guy. If anything, the reason I started Bigfoot Mission
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: rob Channel. It was because only because I know what
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: it feels like. They have an experience and no one
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: believes you or trusts you, and you have a traumatic experience.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Because I like to have people come on. They were
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: like me, nowhere to go, no one to trust. So
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: I provide that. What I do, I hope I do.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: I provide an outlet for people without judgment or ridicule
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: to come out and share the story web and some
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: people do it anonymously and they'll give me an email,
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: which I will do on my show. A lot of
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: them are in my two books because I asked them, Hey,
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: I'll put it in my book. Yeah. And a lot
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: of people don't want it still to this day come
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: on the show, but they wanted the message the message presented.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: So I'm more of a I'm not a researcher tome.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, do I look for evidence, yeah, but I
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: don't do it like some of these researchers do. What
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: I do is I'm an outlet for people to present
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: what happened to me. And I like telling people's stories,
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: like researching and researching, interviewing researchers like you do you know.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: You consider myself like a medium like a medium.
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: Like yeah, right, like an agent, you know, yeah, I'm
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: going to present this guy's story, yes, or when they
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: come on the show like I'm on your show, or
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: like a research that comes on.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do all that too. But the crazy thing
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: is I feel good that I do this. I think
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: I've given back to what's not given to me.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Man, that's the thing, man.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, sometimes you need to too. You need to
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: tell someone to tell you, you know, because you run
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: down these you know, you run, you run with these people.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: You know, they could contact you, and most of society
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: would like to think that they're like crazy, and you
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: you hear their stories and there's so many I'm sure
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: you're like me. You get you know a lot of emails,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of messages, and some of them are like
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: whoa and uh. And then sometimes it's good to speak
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: actually with another podcast like yourself, to kind of go hey, man, hey,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: thanks Chris, appreciate that, you know, like, how are you doing?
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Is this is this working out for you?
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: You know that that gives you need It's a weird
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: position to be in being a podcaster, being the kind
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: of the collector of sorts of all these wild experiences
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: and and uh yeah, it's really cool. It's really cool
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: at the same time too, it's very cool.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Number One, I enjoyed doing now, you know, I do
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: now a big time in the purrean normal cryptives of course,
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: but it's opened my eyes to all these rabbit holes
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: because now I believe. Now today, I believe the UFO phenomenon,
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: the pur and normal phenomenon, the cryptid phenomena that's today,
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: I believe it's all connected. Man, Yeah, it's there's there's
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: something about all this stuff that's interrelated. Whether it's from
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: the same realm or plane, I don't know, but I.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Get different experiences, but yours really seriously, man, seriously, I've
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: been through quite a few of these, you know the
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: door my short period of time doing this channel, yours
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: is much different. You know. You'll find people way over
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: on the you know the whatever they call it the
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: woo wind, which is yeah, to be a down a
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: word meaning, you know, like a bad word. But I
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: don't see it that way, Like, you know, I could
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: get in some bricas on He's like, yeah, they're just
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: sending me runs and messing up the asphalt, you know,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: and playing with my watch and all this weird. So
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: then you have you know, things that it's just it's just,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: you know, incredible, and it's a sustained thing that's happening
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: to this gentleman. And then you have people's like, nah, man,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: you know, I shot this thing and it bled, So
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: there's like it everywheres in between. But then you for
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: me the most, the thing that gives me the most
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: about your story is the mouth opening and the shoulders
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: drawing up and this. You know, people are having questions.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: I think Pam asked a question earlier about, uh, did
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: you feel the vibration like in your eyeballs or in
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: your chest?
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: I felt it hit my body, so everywhere I hear it,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Like I always try to explain this and none of
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: us has thing fully experienced this, and it's weird how
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: I explained this. We've all seen, I'm sure in our
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: lifetimes on TV or the internet or wherever. When a
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: bomb we've all seen like the Hiroshima bomb, which is
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: totally crazy, where that bomb hits at the eye of
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: where it hits, see that sonic the wavelength goes out,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: it just roars across the content. Well I didn't see that,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: but this kind of reminds me how what happened to me.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: It was just like a continual rolling vibration of unseen
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: energy that boom hit me. Impacted me.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you hear things like tigers and lions and
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: even like crocodiles will do like this row like this
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: little thing, but never to a point in which it
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: actually like affects you physically.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: You think you.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Also, I also run parallels to your story with Martin
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: Groves His I'm sure that's you know, I'm sure you
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: know that one everyone that that's the famous encounter in
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: the LBL where you know, this creature comes out and
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: also roars or does something and he can't move either.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: That's it's It is such a fascinating phenomenon. And it
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: wasn't at a match, Rob. You know, if I speak
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: out of turn, please tell me it's not a fear thing.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: It's not a fear thing. It's more of a physical
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: like I can't.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, well for me, it was not really feared. No,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: it's a good word. It was. It was like I
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: was just like perplexed what ell was going on in
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: my body all of a sudden, right, I mean, I
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: guess I didn't any time to be fear fearful beat
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: you know, it's like you have time for looking back?
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: Is what do you tell the story? I'm sure it
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: sounds like it'd be terrifying, and I'm sure with retrospect,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: I guess it was. But at the time, I'm like
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: just trying to shake it off, right, But I don't
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: even think that what I got hit was was was
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: infra sound because I've talked of like I've done, Dude,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: I've done literally, and I'm not bragging when I say
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: I've had four hundred interviews with people on my show.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: I've been doing it three years. People I never get
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: diff it sounds like what happened to me. It's always
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: been like they got nauseous, they got got groggy, got tired,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: was sick for a couple of days. Yes, they never
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: lost cognizance. They never felt like some people a couple
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: of people maybe had that time sit still for a
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: little bit, but never where they didn't lose their vision
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: or could move, and some a little bit of maybe
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: can't move, but to the extent where I was like paralyzed,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: like where I thought I was like cements standing still right.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Right, that's what's so so striking to me like that,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: because I love how you set it up to It's like,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: you know, it's a beautiful blue sky, green backdrop. You
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: know that's the thing, and then you just it turns
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: into like before technicolor and you can't move. That's it's
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: it's such a and you know this is you know,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: you know the Cindy and her mom and her family.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: You know, you know, you know all all the best
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: and you know.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: I did find out the city's mom was no longer
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: with us, so I have that was my last link.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: She had two brothers. They both live in Florida and
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: they Yeah, they're the ones that will thrive to beat
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: my ass. So no way they're not gonna tell me nothing.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's just one of you know. So it's
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: one of those like, uh, have you I don't know.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: I know your book is about I think other experiences.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: Have you ever written this experience in a book?
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: This experience is in my book, first book, in your
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: first book, I put it in, yeah, the first one
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: I put it in. Yeah, And I had to put
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: it in there.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: But I can see the cinematics behind it. This is
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: an awful thing to say, this is a real true
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: thing to you, but like the way you present it's
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: like you put it very well in my head, and
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: it's shocking, it's terrifying, it's bewildering, it's all those things
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: at the same time. And I think it's very admirable
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: that you're like, you know what, this has motivated me
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: to give people a place to be able to come
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: forth and talk about these things, because you know, you
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: were in there six months. I understand depression. I do
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: very well. Actually, yeah, for other reasons, but yeah, and
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: uh uh, it's it's kind of I'm kind of like
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: I lost for words about that particular experience other than
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: it's so there's things that are similar and there's things
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: that are so different.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: My character is Scott. I will say this. My calendar
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: has some similarities to experiences I've come across, as far
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: as the redis brown here, not so much to metamorphosis,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: though you know, a lot of a lot of bigfoot
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: I do have reddish brown hair. A lot of them
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: are black hair, a lot of them are brown, A
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: lot of them have I've heard white people. Kay Davis
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: a white Bigfoot.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Darren Frank saw one in uh in Alabama.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I mean that's similar, and even the picture,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: even the rendition of the original, not to it's not original.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: The first when it turned again, everyone listening it had
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: two different looks about it. It metamorphosized from a human
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: untol a demon what I say, And again I don't
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: think it's a demon. But yeah, I never even heard
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: that where it changes the look as drastically as mine did.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: No, I've heard it disappearing. I've heard it appearing. I've
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: heard of running away. I've heard of it. Uh you know,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: I've actually heard you know, if you heard listened to
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: Erniedaviel's story.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: On the show. Yeah, I saw him on your show too.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: He's got a fantastic and count count you know.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, go check that out cause he actually had like
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: communication with him. It was It's incredible, but never were
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: it morphs from one to another where like something is
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: really upset. You must have been drifting cloths are in
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: with the rocks, like warning you to stay away. And
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: then it was like, okay, this is that I'm allowed.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: I've got interesting feedback on that as far as that,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: I've some had suggested it was children playing nearby that
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: I didn't see and it was where I was in
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: his hunting area. And then those are two and then
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: suggested to me that it came from a portal and
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: it was just as shocked to see me as I was.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: You know, that's what the psychic medium told me. I
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: talked to four different psychic mediums. Two of them I
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: totally now, but the other two were one in particular
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: was really spot on with with a lot of things.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you really quickly. Sure you just heard the story.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: I told you everyone heard the story. You know, you
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: just heard her from for the last whenever how long
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: we've been doing this. I had this lady on my show.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: I'll tell all her name. She's a friend mine. Her
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: name is Robin McCrae. I've known her for a long
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: time and she she she literally has spoken with sasquatch
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: and dog men. That's what she says. I believe her.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: But I tell you why I believe her. I'll tell
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: you this really quickly. She was on my show, and
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: I've spoken with four other psychics and she's on and
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: it was the first time I ever met her. I
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: wanted to hear her story about I want to do
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: a mind speak show, right so now my story's been
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: out there, and this was two years ago when I
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: had her on, and my story's been out there since
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. I've said it at nauseum. I always tell
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: it the same everyone you know knows it, and so
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: I know she probably had heard it. I never asked her.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: So about an hour into my show with her, it's
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: a live show. You guys can see this if you
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: find it. It's very funny, she says to me. Oh,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: by the way around, Denali says, hi, and I met
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: you no harm. And I have no idea what this
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: woman is talking about. I said, Donali, who's Denali? I'm
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: thinking you got that confused with the GMC truck. Yeah,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: that's what I'm thinking in the mountains of Alaska, you know.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: So she goes, yeah, denialey, I'm talking to your bigfoot
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: right now that you saw I can't like Michigan.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: That's his name.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, tell Rob, my name is Denali, and
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: I've been trying to get a hold of him, but
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: he's shutting me out. She tells me this on my show, dude.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you're like, what do you do with that?
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking, oh my, she's heard my story. She's just
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: pulling my leg right right, So I'm thinking, and I'm like, Okay,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: this is interesting, this could be an interesting Well thank you,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: because I'm gonna have a lot of people watch this
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: show now, right, And sure enough it was pretty popular.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, and I I'm cool. I don't
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: just I don't call out knowing on my show. That's
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: one thing I don't do. When you tell me something, Hey,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: whether I believe you or not, I pretend like I
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: do if I don't. But I but I'm this type
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: of guy that believes most people. I'm not gonna say proof.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: You know, these people say, give me proof, they can
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: stick it up their ass. You know, we all want
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: some sore of proof. Yeah, but what's proof? Right? But
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: that's another topic. So anyway, okay, yeah, well tell me
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: about this. She goes, Yeah. Now, the reason I said
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: you all heard my story. I tell my story the
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: same way each and every single time. I never deviate
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: from what I said today. If you look my story
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: up two years ago, it's the same, the same. I'm
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: more specific now about telling about the detail of the background,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: because I mean it's I get better at it the
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: more I've done it, but it's always the same narrative.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: Never change it. That once she goes Yeah, he he
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: was coming from around the Red Burn and from a
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: portal from upper from northern Michigan, and he got lost
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: in the underground mining shaft and he ventured into a
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: portal and came out at the Red Barn. That's where
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: he presented himself. From the Red Barn is the key
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: thing here, because I never mentioned the Red Barn once
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: in my encounter story. Now once, not ever, never.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: Right, I never heard it.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: There was a red barn ninety feet from where this
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: creature was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I automatically automatically run across.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: Where you're just like they'll say something, you know, you know, yeah.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: She just no way she knows this. He could have
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: known my story. Man. You know, some of these schisters
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: are they just can they think they they're really good
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: at getting words. They ask you keywords. Oh, by the way,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: you had a recent loss. Oh yeah, of course we
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: all know. We all heard this, and for everybody listening, No,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: I think they are a great paranormal psychic mediums. I
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: do believe the good ones exist. I also believe there
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: are Charlatans. That's all I'm saying, because I do believe
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: in the trade and in the field, so I'm not
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: disparaging them. So this woman, though, validated that she knows
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: what she's talking about, because there's no way she should
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: have known that. She could have known about my encounter
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: and studied it before the show. You know, I'm sure
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: she could have, but there's no way she'd known about
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: the Red Barn. So I never once talked about it
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: once in my life. And she said, it's supposedly told her, Yeah,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: it came from the Red Barn. I came from a
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: portal from the Red Barn. Yeah.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in the name of Nali is very interesting, Tim,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: what was the name of the one? Uh, the what
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: was her name? He had a name of one too
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: that where it just kind of popped in his head
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: and it's just like sometimes they So here's my question
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: is what do you do with something like that when
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: they say when you know, when she says, hey, he's
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: trying to reach out to you, but you're shutting him out,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: what does that mean to you?
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: I said, okay, no, And I said, well, what do
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: you mean? And that's a great question because I asked
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: the same Christ back to her, I said, it's been
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: trying to contact me, and now he's trying to come.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: And I said, well, how is that? She goes, well, yeah,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: you've been trying to for a while now, but you
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: shut him out and I and I said to her,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: how can I shut out something that I'm not getting
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: any vibe from. I'm not getting a thought in my mind.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: I'm not getting no telepathy or no mind speaking my mind.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: That something or someone or some entities trying to get
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: a hold of me. How do I know? You know,
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  Speaker 2: how do I know this? How he's trying to and
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: I'm shutting him out? And she went on to tell
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: me something about it's just deep embedded in my subconscious
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  Speaker 2: and my subconscious not releasing it.
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  Speaker 1: But but but to give that a little bit of credence,
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  Speaker 1: Like you know, the six months that you were there,
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  Speaker 1: you were probably doing that, like you you didn't want
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  Speaker 1: it to be true, you know, even though it was true.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a part of you, at least probably on
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  Speaker 1: a subconscious level it makes complete matter sense where you're
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  Speaker 1: just like, you know, I can't deal with this right now,
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  Speaker 1: So maybe that kind of stuck with you and embedded
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  Speaker 1: itself and it kind of took root in yourself.
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  Speaker 2: Rooted, and it's not gonna Yeah. Maybe and even though
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  Speaker 2: I totally, uh, I'm cool with it today, maybe just
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: the well, the the mind is a mystery it maybe
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: still it's not releasing it for whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Especially in the head to size of mind.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I'm gunsing that it's still part of
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  Speaker 2: my core. Maybe it's part of my core belief system
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: that is a part of you don't want to believe it.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know. I mean, I mean, I totally
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  Speaker 2: believe in free with it today. I freely talk about
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: it on a daily basis. I talk with anybody about it.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't find that today. I found it for
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: six for a long time, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Think I didn't tell the story until maybe twenty nineteen,
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  Speaker 2: a full year you know, before I kind of you know,
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  Speaker 2: I went on that with the chronicles, you know, Sasquatch,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, man, thank you dude. It's a compelling story.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: It's a tragic story, but on the bright side, you're
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: kind of doing something for her as well, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean, Like.
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  Speaker 2: The first person that said that, and I thank you
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: for that. Because I think I am. I think she's
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: out there, Saint Robins, tell the story. You know it's
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: it's you know, then just let it be known. You
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  Speaker 2: know that my loss was in in vain. Maybe you
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: can help people. I get that. I feel that sometimes
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: late at night.
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  Speaker 1: Or right man. Damn dude, rob thank you, buddy. I
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  Speaker 1: really appreciate you coming on the show.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll have to come back and tell about the
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: ghost the Borro.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: I don't get too tired of us talking with one another. Yeah.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I gotta tell you what. I always say this,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: and it's not just you or anybody else. Whenever I
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: tell my story to somebody else or another group of
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: people like listening today, I always feel great when I'm done. Yeah,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: even though even though you know, I've said it a
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: thousand times, if not a million, when I do it
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: live or to an audience. Right now, man, you did you?
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: Did you help me today just by let me share
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: it today?
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: I was, I gonna be honest with you too, man.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: I was, I'm extremely tired. Man, I'm extremely tired, and
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: I knew that you know you're gonna I was like
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: in my mind, I was like, you know, I know
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: my buddy, Rob's gonna be doing you know, like if
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: we're looking at it in a show sense, you're gonna
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: be doing the heavy lifting because you know, I know
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: that you know what you're doing right right, So okay,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: my buddy will help me alone. But honestly, like I
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: feel more connected with you as a dude, you know
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: what I mean. So that, yeah, helps immensely. And it
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: made me feel good too, man, so the feeling is mutual.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, thanks, appreciate that's awesome. Thank you.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, one more time. Tell everybody where they can
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: find you, and tell me about your books and all that.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: Forget about it.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for those that don't know me or for subscribe,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: my channel's big Foot Miss on YouTube. Just type it
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: on YouTube and I think Tom asked me in the
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: show description. My books are Bigfoot Miss Rapers and Struecrypted
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: the Counters Book one and two. I have two out
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: a year apart from each other. All you do is
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: type big Foot in your Amazon browser and my Brunch
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: of Bigfoot mister Rab Facebook page. That's the name my
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: Facebook group. I'm on Twitter, Rob Underscore Bigfoot you know
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: big footman Scrub on Instagram. All right, but yeah, so yeah,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: you know, that's where I'm act. And I'm on seven
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: days a week it seems. I mean, I'm on three
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: nights a week, Tuesday night, Wednesday, Thursday afternoon Fridays usually
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: around five or six doing country stories. I'm on Saturday
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: Night now. I've been now for a year. I'd spent
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: a year ready with the Blonds and the Moves and
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: Mountic carrawlins. We do a into the Bizarre show at
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: eleven on Sarity. So I'm on four days a week
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: and I fell in for the girls. I'm a time
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: the only day off I have a Sunday. When it
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: comes to podcasting, I.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: Make it a point to try to do it. But
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, if you're you know, I hope
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: it comes to a point where I can kind of
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: be that way where I can say, hey, you know what,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: there's three days a week and I could do that.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: But I was running when I did the switch from
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: Wednesday Lives to Friday Lives, I kept them whatever double
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: and then kept telling people to switch back. So for
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: you know, like two months there, I think it was
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: I was just running them through and you know, I
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: got you know, good numbers because I was constantly on.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: It's uh, it's quite the grind, dude, you know, but
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think it ever becomes too much, especially if
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: you're in passion in doing what you do.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, well I tell you this. I love
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: doing my bar for like the first I did it.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: I owned the bar for thirteen years. I worked at
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: four for twenty years. I love the first five, Hay
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: the last fifteen. Yeah, if because I was I had
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: a job where I had to cut lot. That's long story, man.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: My job was Forred. Towards the end, I had to
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: find out a way how to fire people. Literally, wait, Rob,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: we have seventy five people in the apartment A. We
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: got to cut it to forty eight. Figure it out.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: I'm like what, And then I had to give them
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: the peak slip on Christmas Eve all the time. And
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not lying.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: I Oh, I believe you on Christmas Eve. Oh, I
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: believe you, dude. It's it's the most dude, the horribleness
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: of big like big corporations. I've worked with one. I
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: quick to do that, but the numbers, Tom, Look, we
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: have our chart here and just like, dude, you afraid
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: like you know, uh you know, like uh you know,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: if we if we don't do the quality job like
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: I was in Germany, we don't do the quality job,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: then they're going to take the shop and send it
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: to Portugal or you know, Eastern Europe. I was like, dude,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: stop threatening us and either fire me so I can
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: move on with my life, or just you know, shut
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: the hell up and just let me do my job.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's it's insane, dude. So so
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: I guess compared to that, you know, the podcasting must
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: be immensely like.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: You know that great, Well, the podcast is great. Now.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: Owning the bar was great too. I own it for
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: thirteen years. I loved every time I stepped place here
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: because that was my baby that I mind, that was
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: my total business from head to toe. But being that,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: but I got burnt out because if you don't own
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: a business, you got to be there. And I was
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: there seven days a week, dude, ten in the morning,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: so like two I mean literally some days ten of
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: the morningel three am. Seven days a week.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah you do.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: I had and listen, I had a staff that I
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: could trust. Well that's good, but still you got to
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: be there. Yeah, you just got to be there. You
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: just got to be there. And literally when I took
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: off the six months, it wasn't as you know, it
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: wasn't vacation time.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: No, no, like sometimes you need that. I mean, I'm
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: running a situation with my boss right now, like he's
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: you know, he's having a he's having a rough go
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: of it, and I'm just like, dude, just go ahead,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: sit back, relax, and I'll take care of the ship. Man.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: I got you right now, you know what I mean,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: I understand what you're going through. And uh, dude, thanks
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: for thanks for everything, dude, you've people don't notice. Man,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: Like when when I first started my podcast back and
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: the other rendition of it, you know, Rob came on
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: and he gave you know, gave me as well as
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: my co host, you know, great words. He was very
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: kind to me. And I told you on your show,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: like the format in which you do it, you're you're
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: much smoother than I am. I enjoy your smoothness with
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: It's like it's like there's a lot of things moving
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: in the background that people don't know. You're looking at
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: the chat, you're listening to the story, you think, you
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: question makes.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: It look that's that that takes time of practice, but it.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: Makes you make it look seamless, dude, And I'm like, oh,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: this this.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate I wondered about that. Yeah, it's tough,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: but thank you. I appreciate it. I really respect that
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: compliment and dig it because that's my that's my end
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: goal to do it all flawless. I don't think I am,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: but coming from you, as an outsider looking in, I
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: feel a little bit better. So thanks.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: Welcome dude, and thank you so much for being on
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: the show. Remember, guys, we are the eye. We are aware.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: Love you all, have a good weekend.
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  Speaker 3: There was no name
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  Speaker 2: Name plas