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Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone 09-17-25 Hour 2 · Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Warning!
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  Speaker 2: The Root! The Root! The Root's on fire!
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  Speaker 3: Allen Root, direct from the entertainment capital of the world,
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  Speaker 3: Las Vegas.
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  Speaker 2: What time is it? It's time for War!
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  Speaker 3: Here's your host, 100% raw truth, 100% American made, the warrior,
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  Speaker 3: Wayne Allen Root.
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  Speaker 2: Alright, Wayne Allen Root, the root, the root, the root,
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  Speaker 2: the root is on fire.
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  Speaker 4: If you were just with us for the interview with
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  Speaker 4: Naomi Wolfe, I mentioned this article, Smoking Gun Study Exposes
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  Speaker 4: Direct Evidence Linking the COVID Vaccines to Turbo Cancer. An
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  Speaker 4: Explosive New Study Has Uncovered What Experts Are Hailing. The
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  Speaker 4: First Direct Evidence That Provides, Excuse Me, That Proves COVID
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  Speaker 4: mRNA Vaccines Was Deadly Turbo Cancers.
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  Speaker 2: For Years, Big Pharma.
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  Speaker 4: Assisted, And So Did FDA Officials, That It Was Impossible
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  Speaker 4: For mRNA COVID Injections To To alter human DNA, any
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  Speaker 4: suggestion otherwise was smeared as misinformation, and people.
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  Speaker 2: Who talked about it were called conspiracy theorists.
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  Speaker 4: I always say every single conspiracy theory I ever talk
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  Speaker 4: about on this show, every single one of them has
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  Speaker 4: come true.
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  Speaker 2: Because I'm careful. I don't talk about every conspiracy theory
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  Speaker 2: in the world.
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  Speaker 4: There's new ones out there now, and I actually hear
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  Speaker 4: right-wingers believe them, and it's the stupidest thing I've.
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  Speaker 2: Ever heard in my life.
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  Speaker 4: Israel killed Charlie Kirk. Israel ordered the hit on Charlie Kirk.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you're all going to look like fools on
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  Speaker 4: that one. Israel doesn't kill American MAGA stars. Israel gets
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  Speaker 4: all their money from America, all their military from America,
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  Speaker 4: all the guarantee of backup military from America. If that
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  Speaker 4: ever came out and anybody proved it even somewhat true,
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  Speaker 4: Israel would risk every single bit of support. They would
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  Speaker 4: lose all the money they get from Christian, evangelical Christians
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  Speaker 4: who go to church in America, who are the biggest
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  Speaker 4: supporters of Israel.
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  Speaker 2: Israel did not.
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  Speaker 4: Kill Charlie Kirk. Israel gained nothing by killing Charlie Kirk.
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  Speaker 4: That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. See, that's
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  Speaker 4: a dumb conspiracy theory put out by.
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  Speaker 2: Candace Owens. And she already looks like a fool because....
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  Speaker 4: The billionaire that was supposedly meeting with him in the
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  Speaker 4: Hamptons today just released all of his texts between him
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  Speaker 4: and Charlie. Everyone said there was a meeting and he
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  Speaker 4: threatened his life and Charlie knew he was going to
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  Speaker 4: be killed by Israel. And the billionaire released the text
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  Speaker 4: after the meeting. After the meeting, him and Charlie were like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: great seeing you. When are we getting together with our
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  Speaker 4: wives for dinner? I mean, this is the most.
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  Speaker 2: Ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my life.
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  Speaker 4: The COVID vaccine killing people? That's not a conspiracy theory.
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  Speaker 2: That's a fact. Okay?
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  Speaker 4: Israel killing Charlie Kirk? If you believe in that, you
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  Speaker 4: are the dumbest person.
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  Speaker 2: In the world.
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  Speaker 4: Anyone who believes in that, anyone who propagates that, who
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  Speaker 4: spreads that, is a complete moron. Israel gains nothing by
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  Speaker 4: killing Charlie Kirk.
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  Speaker 2: Israel risks nothing.
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  Speaker 4: Their entire existence by killing an American MAGA star.
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  Speaker 2: Who Donald Trump thought of as almost a son.
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  Speaker 4: That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. So see, there's
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  Speaker 4: the difference between having judgment and understanding which conspiracies to
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  Speaker 4: talk about on TV and which ones to not talk
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  Speaker 4: about on TV. Did Ukraine maybe kill Charlie Kirk because
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  Speaker 4: he talked against the war in Ukraine?
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  Speaker 2: Impossible.
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  Speaker 4: Did Russia kill Charlie Kirk? Because, I don't know, Putin
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  Speaker 4: doesn't like him.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Did China kill him? I'm sure he said lots of
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  Speaker 4: bad things about China. All those are possible because they're
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  Speaker 4: enemies of America. North Korea is an enemy of America.
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  Speaker 2: They kill him, maybe.
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  Speaker 4: I think most likely Charlie Kirk was unknown by all
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  Speaker 4: these countries. He's only known by American liberals who know
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  Speaker 4: that he goes to colleges and debates college students. So
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  Speaker 4: it's very likely that transgender, queer, armed, revolutionary Marxist nutjobs
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  Speaker 4: who trained in Cuba under a communist administration came back
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  Speaker 4: to America and plotted the death of Charlie Kirk with
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  Speaker 4: a little help from Antifa and maybe the Democrat Socialists
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  Speaker 4: of America. I just saw an article that money was
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  Speaker 4: transferred from the Democrat Socialists of America to the assassins'
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  Speaker 4: bank accounts.
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  Speaker 2: This is a communist.
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  Speaker 4: The only person Charlie Kirk hurt was American liberals and Democrats.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. He had nothing to do with Israel. Israel
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  Speaker 2: didn't kill Charlie Kirk.
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  Speaker 4: It was only in the interest of Democrats to get
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  Speaker 4: rid of Charlie Kirk, because he was converting college students
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  Speaker 4: to Donald Trump and MAGA and the Republican Party.
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  Speaker 2: They had every reason to do it, and Israel has
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  Speaker 2: no reason to do it.
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  Speaker 4: So stop with the Israel talk, okay? I just had
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  Speaker 4: to get that off my chest. Dumbest thing I've ever heard.
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  Speaker 4: Israel doesn't kill American Republican MAGA stars. If Israel wanted
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  Speaker 4: to kill someone, they would kill three-quarters of the people
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  Speaker 4: on the left who hate Israel.
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  Speaker 2: And they've never attempted.
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  Speaker 4: The assassination of a single left-wing anti-Israel person in America.
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  Speaker 2: How come no one from.
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  Speaker 4: Israel has ever tried to kill Ilhan Omar or Rashida
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  Speaker 4: Tlaib or AOC or Bernie Sanders, a Jew who hates
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  Speaker 4: Israel and wants to stop all funding of Israel?
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  Speaker 2: How come they're all alive? Why would they want to
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  Speaker 2: hit Charlie Kirk? Come on. How stupid can you be?
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  Speaker 2: Stop talk like that.
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  Speaker 4: All this is is part of blood libel Jew hatred.
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  Speaker 4: You want to blame the Jews for everything in the
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  Speaker 4: entire world. Everything that goes wrong on earth has to
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  Speaker 4: be blamed on Jews. And it's just getting ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 4: So there's a dumb conspiracy. There is no motive for
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  Speaker 4: Israel to kill Charlie Kirk. He was not Israel's biggest critic.
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  Speaker 4: No one in Israel knew Charlie Kirk was.
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  Speaker 2: There are probably five people walking the streets of Tel
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  Speaker 2: Aviv who have ever even heard of Charlie Kirk. But
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  Speaker 2: every liberal at every college knew Charlie Kirk.
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  Speaker 4: Every transgender and queer knew Charlie Kirk and didn't like him.
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  Speaker 2: Okay? So there's your suspects.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, there is some weird stuff on the internet that
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  Speaker 4: is really bad, evil, because you just want to blame
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  Speaker 4: Jews for everything bad in the world, which is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 4: And you want to blame Israel for everything bad in
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  Speaker 4: the world. Maybe you should blame, instead of a nation
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  Speaker 4: of 6 million Jews, it's a nation surrounded by over
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  Speaker 4: a billion Muslims. 6 million Jews versus, what is it,
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  Speaker 4: like 1.5 billion Muslims in the world. Almost all surrounding Israel.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe you should blame them, not the Jews. How does
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  Speaker 4: a nation of 6 million Jews get PR out versus
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  Speaker 4: nations with oil... and the oil wealth like Saudi Arabia
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  Speaker 4: and countries that have 1.5 billion Muslims. But in any case,
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  Speaker 4: a new case report authored by world-renowned experts documents the
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  Speaker 4: first direct molecular evidence that mRNA vaccine material integrated into
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  Speaker 4: the genome of a young woman who developed aggressive stage
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  Speaker 4: 4 bladder cancer within a year of completing a Moderna
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  Speaker 4: three-dose regimen. The study was co-authored by Dr. Peter McCullough,
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  Speaker 4: a great friend of mine, Dr. John Cantazzaro, and Nicholas Holcher.
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  Speaker 4: These findings published exposed what public health authorities long denied,
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  Speaker 4: synthetic mRNA can embed itself in human DNA. The patient,
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  Speaker 4: a 31-year-old woman, developed fast-moving deadly bladder cancer months after vaccination.
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  Speaker 2: The fast-developing aggressive.
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  Speaker 4: Cancers have been dubbed turbo cancers by leading oncologists.
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  Speaker 2: Comprehensive sequencing revealed.
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  Speaker 4: A 20-base pair spike gene segment integrated into chromosome 19,
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  Speaker 4: aligning with a Pfizer plasmid reference sequence. The study links
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  Speaker 4: vaccine mRNA material directly to tumor development, offering a biological
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  Speaker 4: mechanism behind the explosion of turbo cancers reported worldwide. And
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  Speaker 4: by the way, a great friend of mine who I
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  Speaker 4: love dearly in California, believe it or not, just told
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  Speaker 4: me that he's got tumors all over his lungs and
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  Speaker 4: they're now trying to figure out if they're cancerous or not.
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  Speaker 2: And of course, I said, did you get the vaccine?
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  Speaker 3: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got the vaccine.
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  Speaker 3: Why, Wayne?
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  Speaker 4: It just never ends. My friends are dropping dead left
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  Speaker 4: and right, and all of them are vaccinated.
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  Speaker 2: Terrible.
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  Speaker 4: Rand Paul dismantles ex-CDC chief in a brutal Senate showdown.
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  Speaker 4: The ex-CDC director, Dr. Susan Monterrez, attempted to smear RFK Jr.
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  Speaker 4: and build pressure for him to resign. But things did
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  Speaker 4: not go according to plan after a bunch of softball
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  Speaker 4: questions from Bernie Sanders and other Democrats. Rand Paul asked
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  Speaker 4: if the COVID vaccines actually stop transmission. Does the COVID
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  Speaker 4: vaccine prevent transmission? And this Monterrey's lady, former CDC, right?
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  Speaker 2: CDC or FDA? CDC chief.
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  Speaker 4: She said the COVID vaccine can reduce viral load in
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  Speaker 4: individuals who are, and Paul's does it prevent transmission?
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  Speaker 2: And she said, when you.
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  Speaker 4: Have reduced viral load, you will have reduced transmission. And
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  Speaker 4: Paul said, in other words, it doesn't prevent transmission. You
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  Speaker 4: could still transmit the virus if you've had the vaccine.
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  Speaker 4: Paul then turned to children. He asked Monterez if the
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  Speaker 4: COVID vaccine was.
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  Speaker 2: Indicated for children. Should children have gotten it? She repeated
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  Speaker 2: the same line. It can reduce hospitalization and death.
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  Speaker 4: Paul said, does the COVID vaccine reduce hospitalization for children?
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  Speaker 4: And Monterrez said, it can. And Paul fired back, it doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: The statistics are inconclusive. And the reason you.
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  Speaker 4: Can't prove that it does is there's so few people
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  Speaker 4: under 18 that go to the hospital.
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  Speaker 2: The numbers are extraordinarily small.
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  Speaker 4: When he pressed further about whether the vaccine reduces death
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  Speaker 4: in children, Monterrez.
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  Speaker 2: Again answered, it can. That's when Paul shut it down.
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  Speaker 4: Paul said, Rand Paul, you find there is a myocarditis
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  Speaker 4: in young men and boys.
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  Speaker 2: That's a significant event. Heart problems.
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  Speaker 4: It's somewhere between 6,000 and 8,000 and 10,000. But that's
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  Speaker 4: much greater than the risk of hospitalization or death, which
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  Speaker 4: are not even measurable because they're so small.
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  Speaker 2: In other words.
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  Speaker 4: You had zero chance of your kid going to a
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  Speaker 4: hospital or getting really sick or dying, but you had
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  Speaker 4: a real chance that your child would get massive heart
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  Speaker 4: problems from a vaccine.
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  Speaker 2: That was meant to solve the problem of whether your
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  Speaker 2: child would get.
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  Speaker 4: Sick or go to a hospital when they had no
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  Speaker 4: chance of getting that sick or going to a hospital.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Dr. Rand Paul. We'll be right back. I'm
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  Speaker 2: Wade Elruth. This is the War Zone official podcast of
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  Speaker 2: The Gateway Pundit.
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  Speaker 4: Now we're joining Patriot TV, Patriot.TV.
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  Speaker 2: All right, a special treat for you.
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  Speaker 4: I want to introduce you to a real hero of
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  Speaker 4: the American energy industry, a legend, Mark Bruner, founder and
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  Speaker 4: CEO of Lost Soldier Oil and Gas in the United States.
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  Speaker 4: Lost Soldier is the last major BCGA, Basin Centered Nuclear.
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  Speaker 2: Gas accumulation.
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  Speaker 4: This is code for a monster field where gas or
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  Speaker 4: oil is in a basin, which makes the drilling and
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  Speaker 4: production much easier. Mark, you're a legend in the oil
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  Speaker 4: industry and the gas industry.
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  Speaker 2: Tell us about your track record.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I'm a second-generation oil and gas guy. My father,
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  Speaker 5: in the early 1950s, started a company called Techstar. It
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  Speaker 5: later became Texas Oil and Gas. When it sold out
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  Speaker 5: to U.S. Steel, it was the largest independent in the world.
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  Speaker 5: Delhi Pipelines was the largest gas distribution system in the
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  Speaker 5: United States. When it sold out to U.S. Steel, I
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  Speaker 5: worked with him for four years. I've been in the
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  Speaker 5: oil and gas business ever since. You would probably know
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  Speaker 5: me better as the chairman of Ultra Petroleum. And Ultra
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  Speaker 5: had a pretty good track record, which you're very familiar with,
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  Speaker 5: I think.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think a $ 10, 000 investor in Ultra turned it
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  Speaker 4: into $ 13 million.
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  Speaker 2: Is that correct? In the nine-year run of your publicly
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  Speaker 2: traded company.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, at the.
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  Speaker 2: High, that's true.
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  Speaker 4: $ 10, 000 turned into $ 13 million. That means $ 100, 000 turned into
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  Speaker 4: $ 130 million.
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  Speaker 2: That's an incredible track record.
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  Speaker 4: Now tell me why this deal, Lost Soldier, this project
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  Speaker 4: is so important. I hear about projects and deals all
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  Speaker 4: the time. What makes this one special, Mark?
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  Speaker 5: What's special about this is all the other basins in
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  Speaker 5: the United States have been drilled. We've known for 50
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  Speaker 5: years what they are. This one could not be drilled
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  Speaker 5: because there was a uranium mine out here. Until it
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  Speaker 5: was reclamated three years ago, no one could drill it.
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  Speaker 5: This is surrounded by large oil and gas fields with
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  Speaker 5: billions of dollars of infrastructure that at this point.
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  Speaker 4: Is 85% empty.
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  Speaker 5: So we made this discovery. We are the only operator
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  Speaker 5: in this field. And right now we can see that
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  Speaker 5: we've got enough room for 500 horizontal wells out here
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  Speaker 5: with what we've drilled so far. Very exciting. It's the
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  Speaker 5: new basin in the United States. And as far as
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  Speaker 5: I'm concerned, this is an order of magnitude bigger than
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  Speaker 5: Ultra Petroleum, the one that I did.
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  Speaker 2: All right. The website is lostsoldier.com.
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  Speaker 4: Pretty simple stuff, lostsoldier.com. The project, 40,000 acres, took 40
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  Speaker 4: years to piece together.
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  Speaker 2: It's called Lost Soldier Oil and Gas, LLC.
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  Speaker 4: That's the company, that's the project, but the website. LostSoldier.com.
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  Speaker 4: If you're an accredited investor, Mark wants to hear from you.
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  Speaker 4: If you want to hear more information, check it out.
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  Speaker 4: Fill out the form when you get to Lost Soldier.
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  Speaker 4: Mark and his people will get back to you as
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  Speaker 4: CFO and let you know all the details you need
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  Speaker 4: to know.
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  Speaker 2: LostSoldier.com. Thanks, Mark, for being with us today. Thank you, Wayne.
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  Speaker 2: Good to see you again.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 4: I'm back.
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  Speaker 2: We live in such a strange world. Look at this
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  Speaker 2: news that's out right now. Breaking news.
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  Speaker 4: Elon Musk has dropped a bombshell publicly calling for the
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  Speaker 4: arrest of politicians involved in a massive money laundering scheme
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  Speaker 4: of taxpayer money through non-government, non-governmental organizations, NGOs. He calls
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  Speaker 4: for Attorney General Pam Bondi to put the hammer down
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  Speaker 4: on the culprits immediately. I guarantee it was all Democrat
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  Speaker 4: politicians involved. Here's another crazy one. State Department severs ties
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  Speaker 4: with armed queers affiliated NGO. Marxist group nukes socials. Here's
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  Speaker 4: some of the highlights. Armed queer Salt Lake City is
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  Speaker 4: under investigation for possible knowledge in advance of Charlie Kirk's assassination.
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  Speaker 4: Their leader, Ermiya Fanein, I know she's an Iranian, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if she's a transgender or just a queer,
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  Speaker 4: was recognized by a State Department-affiliated NGO called Utah Global
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  Speaker 4: Diplomacy as recipient of the 7 for 17 award for
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  Speaker 4: advancing the United Nations 17 goals. Utah Global Diplomacy has
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  Speaker 4: since scrubbed her presence from their website.
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  Speaker 2: Here are more details from The Blaze. See if I
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  Speaker 2: can find a few details here.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, this could prove consequential for the NGO as the
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  Speaker 4: bulk of its funding takes the form of government grants.
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  Speaker 4: We are taking aggressive action to ensure that any implement
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  Speaker 4: or that has any relationship whatsoever with this radical organization
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  Speaker 4: is completely cut off from any state department engagement. Said
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  Speaker 4: the source Marco Rubio revealed this week, secretary of state
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  Speaker 4: that the department has also been revoking visas of individuals
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  Speaker 4: who celebrated the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
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  Speaker 2: Um, This is the New York Post headline. Armed queer groups.
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  Speaker 4: Founder investigated in Charlie Kirk shooting is a radical trans
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  Speaker 4: leftist who advocated violence. And my understanding, she's not just
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  Speaker 4: a radical trans leftist who advocated violence, but a radical
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  Speaker 4: trans Iranian. I mean, we're just dealing with such sick stuff,
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  Speaker 4: what's going on in our country.
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  Speaker 2: We have been invaded. We have been... Subjugated. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's just absolutely sickening.
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  Speaker 4: Over 100 radical leftist teachers in Texas will have their
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  Speaker 4: certificates for teaching suspended and face permanent ban from public
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  Speaker 4: schools after celebrating Charlie Kirk's assassination and calling for more.
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  Speaker 2: Some of them call for more violence.
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  Speaker 4: And this is what led to Charlie's death. The left
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  Speaker 4: calling him names, Nazi and this and that. And the
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  Speaker 4: left with lies. Charlie said that we should stone gaze.
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  Speaker 4: Charlie never said any such thing. Liars, liars, pants on fire.
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  Speaker 3: Liars.
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  Speaker 2: Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 4: Hate crime charge. A young woman is facing hate crime
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  Speaker 4: charges after assaulting a fellow passenger in a violent, unprovoked
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  Speaker 4: attack on a Manhattan subway train.
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  Speaker 2: This is a report in the New York Post today.
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  Speaker 4: She called him a white boy and then brutally attacked him,
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  Speaker 4: which means.
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  Speaker 2: It's a hate crime. It's a hate crime.
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  Speaker 4: She began striking the writer in the face multiple times
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  Speaker 4: while hurling slurs, shouting white boy and cracker. The repeated
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  Speaker 4: punches left the victim with a bloody nose, and she's
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  Speaker 4: been charged with a hate crime.
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  Speaker 2: Hate crime.
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  Speaker 4: Her name is Genesis Gittens, had just celebrated her 20th birthday,
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  Speaker 4: and was yelling when a 28-year-old man sitting nearby glanced
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  Speaker 4: in her direction. And that's when she began shouting, white boy,
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  Speaker 4: and cracker, and attacked him, violently attacked him. I'm telling you,
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  Speaker 4: we need to change the definition, by the way, of
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  Speaker 4: hate crime.
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  Speaker 2: It can't be just white or black as in race.
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  Speaker 4: Because of what happened with Charlie Kirk, it should be changed.
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  Speaker 4: to politics as well. So in other words, if you
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  Speaker 2: I mean, just a great, great lady, Margaret Thatcher. He
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  Speaker 2: was the speechwriter. Jeffrey Gilson, welcome to The Wayne L.
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  Speaker 1: Root Show.
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  Speaker 2: How are you?
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  Speaker 1: Well, Brian, I'm great, and thank you very much for
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  Speaker 1: having me on the show.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 2: So are you still in England, by the way?
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  Speaker 4: You're a UK guy right now as we speak to you?
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  Speaker 1: No, no. I am now native to upstate South Carolina.
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  Speaker 6: My parents were, in fact, American, but I was born
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  Speaker 6: on an Air Force base in London, and I spent
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  Speaker 6: the first half of my life there, and then I
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  Speaker 6: moved back here.
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  Speaker 1: Never lost the English accent or the flag. That's good.
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  Speaker 1: But I now live in upstate South Carolina, and I
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  Speaker 1: love it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, welcome to the United States. We were honored to
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: have you.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of Margaret Thatcher, just as I
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: was a big fan of Ronald Reagan, her contemporary.
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  Speaker 2: And I always thought Maggie was great. Charlie Kirk's assassination.
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  Speaker 4: Your reaction, and I just want to let you know,
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: my reaction is... The assassination was horrible enough, and shocking enough.
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  Speaker 4: And he's on my TV network, right? My TV show
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: is on Real America's Voice TV, so is Charlie's, so
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  Speaker 4: shocking to me. But even that paled in comparison So
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: the reaction from people celebrating his death, I never thought
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: I'd see something like that in my entire life, let
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: alone in America, let alone with decent people.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: It's so confusing to me. Well, it's not confusing anymore.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: The left hates us and they want us dead.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I think. There could be no unity in
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: this country anymore. We're headed for either civil war.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: Or a national divorce because these people hate us. with
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: a red-hot passion. The left hates us. That's my reaction
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: to what just happened.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Let's hear yours.
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: My reaction is similar, but not quite the same. And
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: I don't mind having to take a different stance to you,
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: and I'm sure you don't mind. Because in taking that
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: different stance, Wayne, we are doing the very thing Charlie
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: Kirk stood for, having different points of view and listening
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: to them. I wrote speeches for Margaret Thatcher. I would
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: say now I would describe myself as a practical liberal.
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: I'm no longer a Democrat. I was Democrat for a while.
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: I have stopped being a Democrat because they lost their
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: way over the last 30 years.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: I think at the moment the primary word that we
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: should be listening to everywhere, and with a lot of things,
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: including the awful stabbing a few weeks ago of that
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: young Ukrainian girl.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: His reaction. It's not so much what's happening, but with,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: for instance.
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: With that Ukrainian girl, it was the reaction of the
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: people around her who did nothing. And as with Charlie Kirk,
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: Charlie Kirk was forthright. He was very forthright with his views,
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: as are you, as am I, on occasion. But words
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: are not violence. Words actually do not inspire violence. Violent
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: people are violence. But Dwayne, words can hurt. And I'll
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: tell you something, if Charlie Kirk was alive right now,
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: he would be looking at all of the various reactions
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: to his death with horror. And he would be saying
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: to both sides, left and right, people, what was I about?
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: I was about going onto campus and inviting other points
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: of view and listening to them with respect. There is
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: passion at the moment and there is concern, but no
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: one should be cancelling anyone. We should all of us
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: express what we feel calmly. But that said, some of
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: the stuff that has been coming from those people I
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: regarded as my former liberal friends, And I want to
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: ask a different view on this. And I'd be interested
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: to hear what you have to say about this. I'm
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: not entirely sure that Tyler Robinson was acting on his own.
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: But we only have 15 minutes. We don't have an
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: hour to go into that. But let's say up to
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: and through the trial, where we end if he actually
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: makes it to the trial. If we end up learning
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: that this 22-year-old and some friends organized what was a
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: very proficient assassination, I'm not trying to be unsympathetic here,
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: we're in trouble. Because you talk about the possibility of
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: civil war. When I was 22, I don't know about you, Wayne,
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: if somebody said something political that upset me, it was
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: all I could do to organize a march. We are
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: told these people were upset over a very short period
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: of time.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: If you watch.
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: Everything that goes on on this campus, I think you
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: know I wrote a book called Maggie's Hammer, which I
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: wrote after spending 30 years investigating the death of a
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: friend in England. And you have to have starting points.
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: My starting point with the death of Charlie Kirk, and
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: I've investigated a lot of assassinations now, is whether you
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: want to use the word professional or not, it's proficient.
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: I've just spent the last seven years of my life
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: on a campus, going back to school late in life.
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: It's not easy to get onto campus carrying bags, dressed
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: in black, wearing sunglasses. It's definitely not easy to get
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: onto a roof. It is not easy to take a shot.
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: One shot, kill shot, 150 yards, get off the roof,
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: get off the campus. Everything that I see and read
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: about this says to me, this is extraordinarily proficient. So
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: if he was a lone gunman operating with a few
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: friends in their 20s, we are looking at a reaction.
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: that is considerably more proficient than it used to be,
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: and that's worrying.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I agree.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: I think the whole thing smells, to be honest with you, rancid.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: I don't think he was the only, he may have
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: been the only shooter, but he certainly had a lot
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: of help. It was not him alone. I think his
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: friends helped. They were on a Discord group. They seem
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: to be.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Radical, violent, Marxist. They call themselves queers. I'm always careful.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: I hate Jeffrey to even use that word queer, because
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: to me, that sounds like the N-word for black people.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: But gays like to be called queer now, and their
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: organization is called queer. So it seems like radical, queer, armed, queer,
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Marxist people transgender killers who trained in Cuba, who bragged
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: that they just got back in May from training to
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: shoot to kill and start a revolution.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: They trained in Cuba.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: So I think this is the group, my gut says,
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: that had an agenda against Charlie on college campuses yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: try to convince people to be conservative and to be
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: MAGA and to love Trump and maybe to not be so,
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: you know, to be very Christian. And they were offended
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: by all that. And they put forth one guy to
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: do it who knew how to shoot. But they all
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  Speaker 4: helped all along the way and they all knew it
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  Speaker 4: was going to happen. That's my gut how this all happened.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know whether it's true or not.
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  Speaker 2: We'll find out. I know he didn't do this. He
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: didn't act completely alone. There's no way. There's no way.
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  Speaker 2: But the story smells. Here's the problem. Let me say
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: one last thing, Jeffrey. One last thing.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: It doesn't make sense that he took his gun apart,
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: which is not easy to do. And then while it
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: was apart, he climbed down the parking structure, ran to
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: the park across the street, and then put it back
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: together again to leave it in the middle of the park.
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  Speaker 2: The story doesn't make sense. There's something wrong. Anyway, the
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: floor is yours.
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: I'll just say, we don't have enough time in this show,
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: but I would add one rejoinder to what you say.
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  Speaker 1: If the man that we see in the video is
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Tyler Robinson.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Or if he's the guy who even did it. Don't forget,
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: there's two other guys who said, I did it, and
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: they didn't do it.
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: No, there is a photograph making the rounds. I've been
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: trying to find out if it's AI or not. It
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: was released at the same time the FBI released their
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: first photographs of a man wearing very similar clothing. And
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: it was mixed up. with the tyler robinson pictures but
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: it's not tyler robinson.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: Interesting i you know i don't know listen the big
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: conspiracy overnight everyone's been sending it to me is that
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: he was charlie kirk was assassinated by israel and to
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  Speaker 4: me that's the stupidest thing i've ever heard of there's
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  Speaker 4: one country in the world that has no interest in
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  Speaker 4: ever ever taking the slightest chance in upsetting america It
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  Speaker 4: would be Israel. They would lose all support, all military funding,
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  Speaker 4: all monies from the, you know, born-again Christian community.
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  Speaker 2: All the churches in America support Israel.
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  Speaker 4: They would never kill an American Republican conservative MAGA star
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  Speaker 2: Stupidest thing I've ever heard. But, you know, you got
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  Speaker 4: former speechwriter for Maggie Thatcher, the former prime minister of
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  Speaker 2: Jeffrey, let me ask you about this.
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  Speaker 4: You mentioned quickly in the first part of the interview
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  Speaker 4: the shocking murder of the 23-year-old white.
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  Speaker 2: Gal from Ukraine in Charlotte, North Carolina.
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  Speaker 4: She was a refugee from Ukraine, Irina Zarutska, on a
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  Speaker 4: train in Charlotte, and she was surrounded by an all-black
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  Speaker 4: passenger group, and nobody went to help her. A black
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  Speaker 4: guy killed her, And I think it should be charged
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  Speaker 4: as a hate crime.
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  Speaker 2: He said, you know, I killed a white girl. He
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  Speaker 2: said those words.
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  Speaker 4: And so I don't know why it hasn't been charged
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  Speaker 4: as a hate crime. He's a 14-time offender to Carlos Brown.
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  Speaker 4: But they only charge him with murder, not with a
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  Speaker 4: hate crime. But we know if it's the other way around,
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  Speaker 4: if a white policeman kills a black guy, it's always
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  Speaker 4: called a hate crime. I just think we should start
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  Speaker 4: being fair in this country. I have no problem with
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  Speaker 4: using the term hate crime. But it's just as bad
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  Speaker 4: when a black kills a white as when a white
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  Speaker 4: kills a black. That's what I see in that story
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  Speaker 4: is that it should have been designated as a hate crime.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I'll tell you what, Wayne, and I don't mind
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  Speaker 6: being controversial on this one. We spoke about at the
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  Speaker 6: beginning how, at the moment, the way Americans, all of
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  Speaker 6: us liberal conservative Americans, are reacting to events isn't casting
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  Speaker 6: a very good light on any of us.
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  Speaker 1: And the gentleman who's stabbing, I use that term.
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  Speaker 6: Loudly, the white Ukrainian girl is bad enough But what
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  Speaker 6: really struck me, what really bothered me, and I say
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  Speaker 6: this as a liberal American, is that the people around
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  Speaker 6: her did nothing. And it's time for some hard conversations
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  Speaker 6: and some hard truths in this country. And if you're
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  Speaker 6: going to go there, you have to say every single
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  Speaker 6: one of the people around her was black. Now, let
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  Speaker 6: me just say this to be absolutely even-handed, Wayne. If
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  Speaker 6: it is the case that we have a hard conversation
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  Speaker 6: and we agree at the end of that hard conversation
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  Speaker 6: that we have so harmed the African-American community through slavery,
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  Speaker 6: plantation horrors, segregation, whatever, that we need massive restorative action
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  Speaker 6: to make them feel a part of the community so
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  Speaker 6: that they don't stand aside and watch a white girl
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  Speaker 6: die because of the color of her skin, let's go there.
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  Speaker 6: But equally, If it is the case that there is
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  Speaker 6: a community where there are members who believe in violence
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  Speaker 6: and nihilism, that's where we have to go. Equally, if
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: there's a community, that's where we have to go. And
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  Speaker 6: it is time to hold those hard conversations without somebody
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  Speaker 6: screaming racist the whole time. There are, between the Charlie
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  Speaker 6: Kirk murder, assassination rather, and these people standing by and
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  Speaker 6: doing nothing, all of whom are black, There are difficult
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  Speaker 6: subjects that we need to address.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're talking about the fact they stood by,
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  Speaker 4: but I think the big issue is still the fact
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  Speaker 4: that he's a 14-time offender, and he's black, and he said,
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  Speaker 4: I killed a white girl. So to me, that's, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I understand they didn't help. That's a big issue. But
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  Speaker 4: to me, the biggest issue is, was it a hate crime?
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  Speaker 4: I think it clearly was. When you say, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I did the white girl, I think at that point...
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  Speaker 4: It clearly becomes a racial issue and it should be
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  Speaker 4: charged that way, just like the very high profile killing
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  Speaker 4: in Texas of that kid named Austin Metcalf, who was
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: a white football player. And he was sitting, you know,
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  Speaker 4: he's standing in the tent that was sponsored by his
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  Speaker 4: high school. And the black kid sat down and it
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  Speaker 4: wasn't his school and he had no right to sit there.
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  Speaker 4: And the white kid said, hey, you shouldn't be here.
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  Speaker 4: This is our tent. And the black kid said, yeah, well,
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: I'm here. And the white kid said, well, you got
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: to leave. And the black kid plunged him in the
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  Speaker 4: chest with a knife and right into his heart.
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  Speaker 2: And killed him on the spot. Why aren't these hate crimes?
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  Speaker 4: If a white guy does it to a black guy,
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  Speaker 4: I also agree it's a hate crime. Why isn't it
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  Speaker 4: a hate crime when a black guy does it to
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  Speaker 4: a white guy?
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  Speaker 2: It's racism. You call it reverse racism. It's racism.
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  Speaker 4: It is.
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  Speaker 6: Well, yeah. I'm not sure if we have time before
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  Speaker 6: the next break. If we don't, I'll wait until after
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  Speaker 6: the break.
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  Speaker 2: No, we've got one minute. One minute less. We're counting.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: The small d democratic system in America works. What doesn't
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  Speaker 6: work is we're electing the wrong people to run it.
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  Speaker 6: It is up to individuals to vote the right way.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 4: Jeffrey Gilson, attorney, former speechwriter for British Prime Minister Maggie Thatcher.
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  Speaker 2: Great to have you on.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: Appreciate your opinions and always love to have a good
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  Speaker 4: debate and a good discussion.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Jeffrey. Great to have you on.
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  Speaker 3: Bye bye.
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  Speaker 2: We're done for the day. That's it. That was the
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  Speaker 2: end of our number two. The war zone's over for today.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be back tomorrow with another edition. I'm Wayne Allen Root,
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  Speaker 2: your secretary of war. See you tomorrow. RootForAmerica.com.
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