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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to today's reading of the Washington Post. It is Saturday,
- 0:06July the twelfth of twenty twenty five. Hard to believe
- 0:10that July is almost halfway through already, gosh, seven months
- 0:15into the year. Amazing. I am Alistaina with the reminder
- 0:20that Radio I is a service for those blinder with
- 0:23disabilities making it difficult to hold and read printed material.
- 0:29And so for today, here is the front page of
- 0:32the Saturday Washington Post. On the very far left, County
- 0:38didn't use broadest flood alerts. Local officials scrutinized for lack
- 0:45of notification in texas As waters rose. This article is
- 0:53by Joyce Son and Lee Brianna six, Aaron Davis, and
- 1:00three others that I can't see yet until I pull
- 1:03it up high. In the very middle of the very
- 1:07top of the front page are Glorier and Richard Rosales
- 1:12on Friday viewing a memorial in Kerrville, Texas to the
- 1:17victims of the recent Guadalupe River flash flooding. And there
- 1:23are wooden crosses with American flags, Mexican flags, flowers on
- 1:28each cross, and candles at the base of each cross.
- 1:33It is a long waterway of the river sort of
- 1:36like a little dam area and oh, it's very moving
- 1:40with the water and the crosses. And it is above
- 1:44an article entitled in Deluge's Wake, talk of Ending FEMA
- 1:52subsides Whitehouse explores retooling the agency to stressed states post
- 1:58disaster role by Natalie Allison and to the far right
- 2:05of the picture and the FEMA article thirteen hundred workers
- 2:10are fired at state rubio sites bloat for mass layoff.
- 2:17Diplomats say cuts will degrade US soft power by John
- 2:23Hudson and Hannah Nattison. In that particular article, I have
- 2:29a very dear friend who is a diplomat, and I
- 2:32hope he is not affected. David R. Gerkin nineteen forty
- 2:38two to twenty twenty five, a towering insider in Pillars
- 2:45of Politics by Adam Bernstein and David Gerkin. Was very
- 2:52big into Washington when I lived there. And below the
- 2:56David Gerkin article there's a picture of Aaron Zellipani, who
- 3:05of RICO United Unit. Oh. He recounts the twenty twenty
- 3:13four assassination attempt on Donald Trump in Pennsylvania. The article
- 3:19is entitled he had Trump's would be shooting in sight,
- 3:23then he fired after a year out of the spotlight,
- 3:27Officer Aaron Zaliponi tells his story by Sean Boberg. And
- 3:34then on the very far right of that is a
- 3:37picture of the Fight for America interactive game. As the
- 3:43audience moved figurines around a model capital, and you see
- 3:48the figurines with MAGA hats on red hats. You see
- 3:54a replica of the United States Capitol and the background
- 3:57lit up and behind it are US flags and red,
- 4:01white and blue bunting. And it says in London, January
- 4:07six reenactment turns theater goers into rioters and offices by
- 4:14Carla Adam and indeed in London so at first page article,
- 4:21State Department fires more than thirteen hundred employees in downsizing plan.
- 4:28The layoffs have drawn criticism from a current and former
- 4:32diplomats who say cuts will degreat America standing in the
- 4:36world and curb US soft power. And there's a picture
- 4:42of a laid off employee fighting back tears as she
- 4:45leaves the State Department on Friday. She is in a
- 4:49black dress with black plaques and a yellow sweater. Her
- 4:53hand is over her mouth and she's carrying her phone
- 4:56in her hand and looking on and clapping are other employees,
- 5:02some on phones. They are in summary clothes and there's
- 5:10a backdrop of looks like Forever roses in the backdrop,
- 5:14but they're standing as she's walking by. The article is
- 5:19by John Hudson and Hannah Nattinson. The State Department began
- 5:25firing more than thirteen hundred employees via email on Friday
- 5:30as a part of the Trump administration's plans to downsize
- 5:34government and cut back on what it called bloat and inefficiencies.
- 5:40The move has come under criticism from current and former diplomats,
- 5:44who say the cuts will degrade america standing in the
- 5:47world and curb US soft power. The diplomat's hit hardest
- 5:53tailed from the offices that Secretary of State Marco Rubio
- 5:57eliminated in his sweeping real organization of the department, the
- 6:02most far reaching in decades, including the Office of Global
- 6:06Women's Issues and the Department's diversity and Inclusion programs. But
- 6:12cuts also affected employees working on highly valuable volatile issues,
- 6:19including Syria, a brittle Middle Eastern country emerging from decades
- 6:25of authoritarian rule, and senior officials in charge of chemical
- 6:30weapons issues and multilateral nuclear diplomacy. They cut key experts
- 6:38on nuclear testing, nuclear verification, and efforts to add the
- 6:42production of weapons grade fisile material, said Alex Bell, a
- 6:49former State Department official and current president of the Bulletin
- 6:52of the Atomic Scientists. These cuts will only serve to
- 6:59increase the nuclear threats facing this nation. Bell said the
- 7:05Department is laying sending layoff notices to more than eleven
- 7:09hundred civil servants and two hundred and forty foreign service employees.
- 7:15According to an internal notice obtained by the Washington Post,
- 7:19foreign service officers will immediately be placed on paid administrative
- 7:24believe and lose their jobs one hundred and twenty days
- 7:27after they received the notice. This separation period for most
- 7:31civil servants is sixty days. Rubio has defended the overhaul
- 7:38as critical to streamlining the department sometimes sluggish decision making
- 7:42processes and various redundancies. He said, there were forty boxes
- 7:50on this piece of paper, he told longmakers in May,
- 7:55referring to the policy approval process, adding that means forty
- 8:00people had to check off yes before it even got
- 8:03to meet. That's ridiculous. And if any one of those
- 8:06boxes didn't get checked, the memo didn't move. That can't continue.
- 8:13Frequently asked questions hand provided to employees on Friday said
- 8:17the purpose of the reorganization was to focus the department's
- 8:22resources on policy priorities and eliminate redundant functions in order
- 8:28to better deliver for American taxpayers. Michael Rigas, the Deputy
- 8:35Secretary of State for Management and Resources, told staff and
- 8:40an email Thursday that every effort has been made to
- 8:44support our colleagues who are deporting. Departing with weeks of
- 8:49uncertainty over the expected layoffs badly affected morale at the department,
- 8:55with some of the workforce exasperated and embittered about plans
- 8:59to fire peace at a time when many were asked
- 9:02to work additional hours to assist US citizens seeking to
- 9:06flee the Middle East amid Israel's war with Iran. With
- 9:12reberations of the layoffs ricocheted across the department's foggy Bottom
- 9:16headquarters on Friday, Security agents were on every floor as
- 9:21diplomats cried and embraced each other in hallways. Employees were
- 9:26escorted to conference rooms to pack up and turn in
- 9:29work materials. Other staff who had not yet received layoff
- 9:33notices created posters that said thank you for your service
- 9:37and your work left an impact. Ribio informed Congress in
- 9:43May that the Department planned to reduce its US workforce
- 9:46by more than fifteen percent, almost two thousand people, as
- 9:51part of a sweeping reorganization intended to streamline what he
- 9:54has called a bloated barker see that stifles innovation and
- 9:59miss he s allocates scarce resources. Separately, he has accused
- 10:05certain bureaus within the Department of pursuing a radical political ideology.
- 10:12President Donald Trump is a longtime critic of the state departments,
- 10:16dating back to at least his first term in office.
- 10:19Since he was elected to a second term, it has
- 10:22been clear that his second administration would target the Department.
- 10:26The question was not whether cuts would happen, but how
- 10:29big they would be. For years, both political and career
- 10:34officials have acknowledged that the Department could be less protocol
- 10:38bound and more efficient, but officials question the administration's claims
- 10:44a prioritizing merit based tiring while eliminating diversity programs and
- 10:50promoting young, inexperienced right leaning political operatives to senior positions.
- 10:57The idea that they've been hiring the best and the
- 11:00brightest is laughable, said one career diplomat. This has been
- 11:04a windfall for young and often mediocre white men. The
- 11:09American Foreign Service Association, the union that represents diplomats, said
- 11:15the Trump administration has shed at least twenty percent of
- 11:18its diplomatic workforce in the past six months through shuddering
- 11:22offices and forced resignations. There were clear institutional mechanisms available
- 11:29to address access staffing if that had been the goal. Instead,
- 11:34these layoffs are untethered from merit or mission. They target
- 11:40diplomats not for how they've served or the skills they have,
- 11:44but for where they happen to be assigned. That is
- 11:48not reform, the organization said. One nearly twenty year veteran
- 11:54of the State Department on parental leave logged into her
- 11:57work email from home Friday morning to wait for the
- 12:01hammer to drop. She said. Her firing leaves their family
- 12:05with one income and a newborn to support. She said.
- 12:10Another employee learned they were fired a few weeks after
- 12:13their space was diagnosed with breast cancer. Those officials spoke
- 12:18on the condition of anonymity to discuss their personal situation.
- 12:24Jessica Bradley Rushing, who worked for two years in the
- 12:28Office of the Coordinator for Afghan Relocation Efforts, said every
- 12:33single member of her office's leadership team, including one woman
- 12:38who gave birth yesterday, has been or will be fired.
- 12:43She said the gutting of her office imperiled Afghans who
- 12:47assisted and served alongside Americans during the two decade US
- 12:52mission in Afghanistan. The two hundred and fifty thousand Afghans
- 12:57waiting their turn to resettle the United Slime States will
- 13:01now have no access to government assistance, she said. This week,
- 13:08the Supreme Court cleared the way for the Trump administration
- 13:12to launch plans for mass firings and reorganizations at nineteen
- 13:17federal agencies and departments while litigation continues. The Justices lifted
- 13:24a lower court order that temporarily blocks plans to lay
- 13:27off thousands of federal workers, including at the State Department,
- 13:32because the administration did not first consult with Congress. And
- 13:37there is a picture of people holding up signs and
- 13:40support of fired State Department employees. One says thank you
- 13:46America's diplomats, and the thank you is written in blue
- 13:52in script Americas is red, and diplomats in blue and
- 13:57capital letters with stars at the top and stripes at
- 14:03the bottom, State Department and democracy with two hands shaped
- 14:09as an Valentine at the bottom of that we all
- 14:15deserve better solidarity. In all of these State Department members
- 14:21are holding up the signs. While the layoffs are deeply
- 14:25unpopular among Korea officials, some expressed mild relief that the
- 14:30court's decision ended the cloud of uncertainty hanging over the department.
- 14:35The only thing worse than these layoffs was the uncertainty
- 14:38about these layoffs. One State Department official, who spoke on
- 14:43the condition of inanity to discuss internal personnel matters, told
- 14:48the Post. Long time observers of the department, however, express
- 14:52concern that the loss of institutional knowledge would affect the
- 14:56Department's ability to function. The current administration has already ensured
- 15:03that State will not have sufficient talent, experience, and proper
- 15:07organization needed for US foreign policy to prosper in the
- 15:11years ahead, or even for State to be able to
- 15:14provide critical help sometimes needed by Americans abroad, said Robert E. Hunter,
- 15:21a former US ambassador to NATO. Senator Jean Shaheen, Democrat
- 15:29of New Hampshire, a Genie Shahim, Democrat of New Hampshire
- 15:35and other Democrats on the Foreign Relations Committee have also
- 15:38criticized the decision issuing a joint statement, saying, if this
- 15:44administration is serious about putting America first, it must invest
- 15:49in our diplomatic corps and national security experts, not erode
- 15:54the institutions that protect our interests, promote US values, and
- 16:00to keep America safe abroad. REGUS meanwhile, express gratitude to
- 16:06employees who would soon be laid off. First and foremost,
- 16:13we want to thank them for their dedication and service
- 16:16to the United States, he said. Also on the front page,
- 16:21to the left hand side, Trump administration moves away from
- 16:26abolishing female Well. This is one under the picture that
- 16:29crosses as the President visits Texas to see the impact
- 16:34of last week's deadly flash floods. The White House is
- 16:37backed away from plans to abolish the agency, official said.
- 16:42And there's a picture of a bridge with the road
- 16:46washed away, trees lying across the water or underneath the bridge,
- 16:53background buried of sandy looking, and it says construction crews
- 16:58clear flood debris in Ingram, Texas for residents to cross
- 17:03a bridge over the Guadalupe River. On July the fifth,
- 17:06the day after the floods by Natalie Allison. For months,
- 17:12President Donald Trump and his Homeland Security secretary have said
- 17:16the Federal Emergency Management Agency could be eliminated, But as
- 17:21the President visited Texas to view the impact of last
- 17:24week's deadly floods, administration's officials say abolishing the agency outright
- 17:29is not on the agenda. A senior White House official
- 17:34told The Washington Post that no official action is being
- 17:37taken to winddown FEMA, and that exchanges in the agency
- 17:42will probably amount to a rebranding that will emphasize state
- 17:47leader's roles in disaster response. The official and others emphasized
- 17:52that Trump will make the ultimate decision. It's said at
- 17:56this point, FEMA is not set to be abolished without
- 18:00any official action. You are already seeing theory of the
- 18:05administration's new approach taking place in Texas, the official said.
- 18:12The President immediately delivered the dollars. Texas already has that
- 18:17money in their hands, and Governor Greg Abbott is the
- 18:20lead decision maker when it comes to the Texas floods,
- 18:23the official said, adding you should expect this structure that
- 18:28has quietly taken place to continue. Trump on Friday met
- 18:32with the first responders and family members of the victims
- 18:36in Texas, received a briefing from local elected officials and
- 18:40took part in a round tabled discussion. Abbot, a Republican,
- 18:44joined him during the visit. Trump and Homeland Security christ L.
- 18:49Nim in recent months raised prospect that the agency could
- 18:54be abolished altogether. In describing an executive order on FEMA
- 18:59shortly after he took off, as Trump said it would
- 19:03begin the process of fundamentally reforming an overhauling FEMA, or
- 19:08maybe getting rid of FEMA. I think, frankly, FEMA's not good,
- 19:14Trump said in January, explaining that the FEMA thing has
- 19:19not been a very successful experiment. Administration officials are now
- 19:25hedging their comments, emphasizing that FEMA will undergo changes as
- 19:29part of a review process. The FEMA Review Council, which
- 19:34Trump created by his executive or, met for the second
- 19:37time this week and is expected to release a report
- 19:40in November with recommendations to improve federal disaster response. How
- 19:47these recommendations will be implemented that FEMA ultimately comes down
- 19:51to Trump, who is dialed up and down his aversion
- 19:54to the agency depending on the occasion. A second White
- 19:59House official said the Review Council's meetings on May twentieth
- 20:02at the White House were productive, and noted that thousands
- 20:07of interested Americans listened into this week's gathering in New Orleans.
- 20:13Abigail Jackson, a White House spokeswoman, said in a statement
- 20:17that the Review Council will recommend to the President how
- 20:22FEMA may be reformed in ways that best serve the
- 20:25national interest, including how America responds to and recovers from disasters,
- 20:31such as that the federal role remained supplemental and appropriate
- 20:35to the scale of disaster. Federal resources are intended to
- 20:41supplement state actions, not to replace those actions, Jackson said,
- 20:47adding that FEMA's outsize role created a bloated bureaucracy that
- 20:53disincentivized state investment in their own resilience. President Trump is
- 21:00committed to right sizing the federal government while empowering state
- 21:04and local governments by enabling them to better understand, plan for,
- 21:08and ultimately address the needs of their citizens, she said.
- 21:14Asked this week whether Trump was reconsidering phasing out FEMA
- 21:18in light of the Texas flooding, white House Press Secretary
- 21:22at Caroline Levitt said discussions remain under way about structuring
- 21:26the federal disaster response. The President wants to ensure American
- 21:32citizens always have what they need during times of need.
- 21:38Whether that assistant comes from states or federal government, that's
- 21:42a policy discussion that will continue, and the President has
- 21:47always said he wants states to do as much as
- 21:49they can, if not more, Levitt said, not everyone agrees
- 21:56that the process in Texas has unfolded smoothly. Current and
- 22:00former FEMA employees said the agency's ability to fully respond
- 22:05to the flooding has been delayed by restrictions the administration
- 22:09has imposed on government spending and contracts. Deployments of specialized
- 22:14search and rescue teams were significantly delayed in the days
- 22:19immediately after the flood. Those officials said federal spending or
- 22:24disaster relief has risen sharply as the number of major
- 22:28disasters has minted in recent years. In twenty eighteen, the
- 22:33US suffered fourteen disasters that caused more than a billion
- 22:37dollars in damage. By twenty twenty four, that number had
- 22:41risen to twenty seven. According to a report by the
- 22:45Government Accountability Office, the GOAO Congress's agency that audits federal programs.
- 22:53Over the last decade, the government has spent more than
- 22:56five hundred and fifty billion dollars on disaster relief. The
- 23:00GAO found polling in decays that a large majority of
- 23:05Americans support the federal government helping communities recover from natural disasters.
- 23:11Eight in ten Americans said the federal government should have
- 23:15a major role in providing aid to communities in the
- 23:19aftermath of natural disasters, according to an Associated Press dash
- 23:25RC poll last month that included eighty percent of Republicans
- 23:30in eighty seven percent of Democrats. Asked about rebuilding communities
- 23:37affected by disasters, seventy four percent of Americans said the
- 23:41federal government should have a major role. What shape that
- 23:46federal role should take, however, has been the subject of
- 23:50repeated debates. The senior White House official said Trump's vision
- 23:55for FEMA is that the federal government provides the necessary funds,
- 24:00but the state makes the decisions. The official added that
- 24:04it did not make sense for federal workers from other
- 24:07parts of the country who do not understand the geography,
- 24:10who do not understand the communities in a state, to
- 24:13swoop in for miles away and try to control and
- 24:16dictate decision making on the ground. Tricia McLaughlin, Assistant Secretary
- 24:22of Homeland Security, said it's not a secret that underknown
- 24:27and acting FEMA Administrator David Richardson, FEMA as it is
- 24:32today will no longer exist. Federal emergency management will shift
- 24:37from bloated, DC centric dead weight to a lean, deployable
- 24:42disaster force that empowers state actors to provide relief for
- 24:46their citizens. The old processes are being replaced because they
- 24:51failed Americans in real emergencies for decades, McLaughlin said in
- 24:55a statement. The FEMA Review Council is developing a comprehensive
- 25:02plan for necessary change. She continued, State emergency management officials
- 25:08have long suggested that reforms should take place to make
- 25:12the federal government more efficient at responding to disasters, including
- 25:16overdue modernization of operations. Some argue for a sharply scaled
- 25:22back federal road. North Carolina's state representative, Jake Johnson, a
- 25:28Republican who serves as host's majority whip, represents four counties
- 25:32that were battered by Hurricane Aleen in September. He and
- 25:37his colleagues hoped FEMA would be replaced by a much
- 25:40simpler system of block grants that could send federal resources
- 25:45straight to states, cutting out what he sees as wasteful
- 25:48red tape and bureaucracy, he said. Johnson said, what was
- 25:54so frustrating for us was the fact that we needed
- 25:57less clip boards. We needed more people helping run missions
- 26:01and actually doing things. And you know, it's good to
- 26:06have those advisors here, but when we're looking for outside help,
- 26:10we're looking for actual tangible assistance, and that was just
- 26:14not not there at all. I think we could handle,
- 26:19in large part what FEMA's job is, if we had
- 26:23some federal monetary help, Johnson said, we could set up
- 26:28the systems here. At the same time, many state leaders
- 26:33believe a strong federal role is needed to help coordinate
- 26:37disaster response. Some communities and states don't have the resources
- 26:41to lead all aspects of disaster responses. They note. One
- 26:46state emergency management official, speaking on the condition of anonimity
- 26:51to candidly discuss the situation, said they were now far
- 26:56more comfortable with the review process after speaking to members
- 27:00the FEMA Review Council in recent days, and believe the
- 27:03council is taking a measured approach to changes. During the
- 27:07twenty twenty four campaign, Trump sharply criticized FEMA's response to
- 27:13the severe flood seline generated last month, Trump said he
- 27:17wanted to wean off of FEMA and give out less money.
- 27:23Gnome declared during a March cabinet meeting that she was
- 27:27going to eliminate FEMA. Last month, how she seemed to
- 27:32dial down her rhetoric, saying Trump wanted to see FEMA
- 27:36eliminated as it exists today. In a related article, Kerr
- 27:43County did not use its most far reaching alert system
- 27:48in deadly Texas floods. Local officials use this system more
- 27:52than two days after the recorded height of the floods.
- 27:57And there's a picture of a search and rescue team
- 27:59from Bourn, Texas navigating the flooded Guadalupe on July fourth
- 28:04in Comfort, Texas the area in yellow jackets with helmets
- 28:10on and vests in a black fire rescue float boat.
- 28:17Joyce Seanyon Lee, Rihanna Sachs, Aaron C. Davis, Scott's Dance,
- 28:24Andrew Bartran and Immajeen Piper. The Texas county where nearly
- 28:30one hundred people were killed in more than one hundred
- 28:33and sixty remained missing, had the technology to turn every
- 28:37cell phone in the River Valley into a blaring alarm,
- 28:41but local fishers did not do so before or during
- 28:44the early morning hours of July fourth, as river levels
- 28:48rose to record heights, inundating campsites and homes. A Washington
- 28:53Post examination foond Kirk County officials, who have come on
- 28:58the increasing SCREA to me for their actions as the
- 29:01Guadalupe River began to flood, eventually sent text message to
- 29:06alerts that morning to residents who had registered to receive them,
- 29:10according to screenshots of the text. But the Post review
- 29:14of emergency notifications that night found that even as a
- 29:19federal meteorologist warned of deteriorating conditions and catastrophic risk, county
- 29:25officials did not activate a more powerful notification tool they
- 29:29had previously used to warn of potential flooding. The National
- 29:34Weather Service sent its own alerts through this system beginning
- 29:38at one poin fourteen a m. On July fourth. That
- 29:43mass notification system, known as the Integrated Public Alert and
- 29:48Warning System or APPAUSE, is used by the National Weather
- 29:53Service meteorologists to warn of imminent threats. Warnings of life
- 29:59threatening whether of then sent on that system, similar to
- 30:02amber alerts, forced bones to vibrate and emit a unique
- 30:07jarring tone as long as they are on and have
- 30:10a signal. They also allowed qualified local officials to send
- 30:14tailored messages to targeted areas. The lack of alerts sent
- 30:20through ipaus from Kerr County officials as the Guadal Lupy
- 30:25River flooded was a critical misstep in their response, said
- 30:29Abdul Aqim Sadiq, a professor at the University of Central
- 30:34Florida who researches emergency management. Residents are more likely to
- 30:39trust and listen to their local government officials, he said,
- 30:44and the alert could have been made a difference for
- 30:46some people. Despite this body sel phone service along the
- 30:50river and the fact that many people were probably asleep
- 30:53as floodwater surged. If the alert had gone out, there
- 30:58might be one or two people who might still have
- 31:02been able to receive that message, who now through word
- 31:05of mirth alert people around them, Sadiq said. Ipause is
- 31:11just one part of a successful emergency response. Experts say
- 31:16ideally officials would warrant of impending whether events before they escalate,
- 31:21and on July fourth, the flooding search faster and higher
- 31:25than forecasters had predicted. Kerr County officials have for years
- 31:30talked about the need for a more robust flash flood
- 31:34warning system, including sirens that would reach people in places
- 31:38with no cell service. But in the absence of that
- 31:42expensive infrastructure, they adopted I Pause, which cost them nothing,
- 31:48as a way to alert more people by phone. Kerr
- 31:52County officials have activated I Pause twice before, most recently
- 31:57in twenty twenty four, amid concern the possible flash floods.
- 32:02According to a database of alerts sent through ipaus archived
- 32:06by the Federal Emergency Management Agency last summer, on the
- 32:11evening of the July twenty third, record show an alert
- 32:14sent through ipause was issued from an email address used
- 32:18by William bub Thomas, Kerr County's emergency management coordinator. In
- 32:25that instance, the alert warned that the Guadalupe River could
- 32:28rise four feet and that people should avoid low level
- 32:31river crossings and move their belongings away from the water.
- 32:35The flash flood passed with no major injuries. On July fourth,
- 32:40the river rose about thirty feet in Hunt, Texas, close
- 32:44to Camp Mystic. In more than two dozen campus would
- 32:47be killed in the flood. I'm seeing a map of
- 32:51the river Kerrville, Ingram, Hunt and Camp Mystic and Hunt
- 32:57is at a convergence of the two rivers coming together
- 33:03the area. Thomas Kerr County Sheriff Larry Letha and other
- 33:10county officials did not respond to emails, texts, and other
- 33:14requests from the Post for comment. A communications team representing
- 33:18state and local officials said in this statement that county
- 33:22leaders have been focused on rescue and reunification and are
- 33:27committed to a transparent and full review of processes and protocols.
- 33:33As Tuesday, during a news conference, if anyone in the
- 33:36county's Emergency Management division had been awake to push the
- 33:40button to send an emergency alert, Litha's shot back that
- 33:44it wasn't that easy. There's a lot more to that,
- 33:47he said. A reporter asked again, had any alert been sent?
- 33:52I can tell you at this I can't tell you
- 33:54at this time, Letha said, based with similar questions that
- 33:59a news conference a day later, the sheriff said he
- 34:02was not running from responsibility. Those questions need to be
- 34:07answered to the families of mist loved ones, to the public,
- 34:11to the people who put me in this office, Leatha said,
- 34:14promising a full after action review. The National Weather Service
- 34:18issued twenty two alerts through pause I pause on July fourth,
- 34:23sitting increasingly dire warnings to swaths of Kerr County. The
- 34:28Weather Service's typical notifications use wordings such as turn around,
- 34:33don't drown, and move to higher ground now to warn
- 34:38of general risks to broad geographical areas. They come so
- 34:42frequently in an area of the county known as Flash
- 34:45Flat Alley that they are often ignored residents, say. Experts say.
- 34:51The county officials, by contrast, could have issued evacuation orders,
- 34:55described risk to specific neighborhoods, or provided other more location
- 35:01specific guidance to say state. Such targeted information, especially from
- 35:06a known and trusted source, can help persuade people to
- 35:10take action. Experts say when the county did issue cell
- 35:16phone alerts that morning, it used a warning system with
- 35:20more limited reach called code Read that can be used
- 35:24to send voice messages to landlines listed in the white pages,
- 35:28as well as text messages to the cell phones of
- 35:31people who have signed up. Code Read can target messages
- 35:37to specific locations in the county, and the Post could
- 35:41not obtain a comprehensive list of all code read messages
- 35:45and on July fourth to determine when the earliest was sent.
- 35:49But screenshots of text messages showed that some local residents
- 35:53did not receive one until ten fifty five am, hours
- 35:58after the river reached its highest water level earlier in
- 36:02the morning. The code read system automatically rebroadcast versions of
- 36:07National Weather Service warnings. The screenshots showed days before the holiday,
- 36:12weather forecasters could see the potential for slow moving storms
- 36:16across South Tentsral Texas. On the afternoon of July third,
- 36:21the National Weather Service issued a floodwatch across central Texas,
- 36:26warning of a few inches of rain five to seven
- 36:29inches at the most through early Friday. As July third progressed,
- 36:34some weather models predicted the possibility of ten inches of
- 36:38rain and even as much as twenty inches. Meanwhile, camps
- 36:43along the Bottomloope were bustling with hundreds of children from
- 36:46across the county, and RV parks and motels were filling
- 36:50up Acrosskerk County for a patriotic four July concert that
- 36:55was expected to draw thousands of visitors. It was the
- 37:00and of recipe for trouble that Thomas and others in
- 37:04Kirk County had been warning of for nearly a decade.
- 37:07According to minutes from County commissioner meetings. Thomas, a twenty
- 37:11five year veteran of Texas Highway Patrol who had weathered hurricanes, bias,
- 37:17an even a Space Shuttle disaster, began working as Kirk
- 37:20County's emergency manager in twenty fifteen. The following year, at
- 37:26a county commissioners meeting in March twenty sixteen, he said
- 37:30he considered kerrs opt in code red warning system to
- 37:34be inadequate. Thomas said he was concerned that the county's
- 37:37many visitors, including those attending camps along the river, wouldn't
- 37:42receive alerts in case of disaster. Minutes show At the
- 37:47same meeting, Thomas pushed for a comprehensive flood monitoring and
- 37:51warning system. He suggested kerk could adopt a system like
- 37:55that used by neighboring county, with solar power backups and
- 37:59sirens that could be heard from three miles away. Some
- 38:03commissioners balked at pay for the system outright, and the
- 38:07Federal Emergency Management Agency rejected the county's application for a
- 38:11grant to help defray the cost. The Post previously reported
- 38:16in November twenty twenty, Thomas briefed commission members on a
- 38:20new plan, Kirk County could piggyback on the federal I
- 38:24Pause for free to notify folks when they are here
- 38:29in Kirk County about a flood fire. Whatever thomas Cold
- 38:34commission is, he would be the one to train on
- 38:37and activate the county's alerts through I Pause. Beating minute
- 38:40show his email address is listed as having been used
- 38:44to send the county's first I Pause message, a shelter
- 38:48in place alert sent on an icy day in February
- 38:51twenty twenty two. According to archived alerts available online, the
- 38:56message told people not to travel unless they were having
- 38:59an emergency, and advised that anyone who lost power could
- 39:03warm up in the gym at the back of a
- 39:05local Methodist church or at any volunteer fire department. Neither
- 39:11Thomas nor any other Kerr County officials sent another emergency
- 39:15weather alert through aphause until the flash flood morning for
- 39:19the Guadalupe River in July twenty twenty four. The archives
- 39:23showed that was the last time they used the system
- 39:26before the July fourth flood. In the wee hours of
- 39:32July fourth, a National Weather Service meteorologist named Jason Runyon
- 39:37was on duty for the Austin San Antonio region, according
- 39:42to the updates he posted in a channel on Slack,
- 39:45a messaging system the Weather Service uses to keep local
- 39:50officials and reporters informed of at changing conditions. Runyon could
- 39:55not be reached for comment. Thomas is a member of
- 39:59that channel record show, and had last posted a message
- 40:01on May eighth about thunderstorms. It's not clear whether he
- 40:06or any other official from Kerr County was monitoring the
- 40:09channel that night. CNN first reported the contents of Runyan's
- 40:13messages as the flooding unvolted have not been previously reported.
- 40:18In a statement, Whether Service spokesman Erica grow Chi said
- 40:24that there were multiple communications involving local emergency management and
- 40:30the agency's Austin, San Antonio office on the morning of
- 40:34July fourth, in decluding by email, Slack, and phone call.
- 40:39She did not specify which officials were involved, or if
- 40:43any were with Kerr County. Shortly before one am, Runyon
- 40:47wrote that some sell mergers were about to take place
- 40:51over Central Kirk County and to be on the lookout
- 40:54for flash flooding there and in adjacent Vandera County. An
- 40:58emergency manager from another nearby county reacted immediately with the
- 41:02thumbs up emoji emoji. At one fourteen a m. The
- 41:07Weather Service used I Pause to send a flash flood
- 41:10warning to all phones and parts of Kerr and VENDERA
- 41:14radar indicated thunderstorms across the warned area, It said, advising
- 41:20reciproents to turn around don't drown in Kerrville. The alert
- 41:25buzzed on Joe Marianna's phone, like so many he had before.
- 41:30Marina was awake pre prepping food for the expected holiday
- 41:33rush at his restaurants, builds barbecue and didn't pay much attention.
- 41:38He mostly ignored Weather Service alerts, especially when they sound
- 41:42at night. He said, no one is paying much mind.
- 41:46At two three four o'clock in the morning, he said
- 41:50conditions worsened over the next hour. When I posted on
- 41:54Slack that radars showed downpas dropping two to four inches
- 41:57an hour. A local NBC news staff for monitoring the
- 42:01channel asked how far the flash flood mornings might expand
- 42:05Runyon was focused on Kerr and to twenty eight am.
- 42:08Running wrote that Kerr had received two hundred percent of
- 42:12the rainfall needed to trigger flash flooding and that flooding
- 42:15had likely begun an emergency manager from nearby Hayes County
- 42:22and one from Missouri reacted with the mojis. There was
- 42:26no reply or acknowledgement from any Kerr County officials. According
- 42:30to the archives slack messages reviewed by the Post that time,
- 42:35the Guadalupe River was rising. In the hour between one
- 42:38twenty five am and two twenty five am, the water
- 42:41level rows a foot above normal to eight point seven feet.
- 42:45According to records from a river gauge directly east of Hunt,
- 42:50it was just the beginning. Over the next hour, the
- 42:53river rose more than six feet. Gauge data shows the
- 42:58three am run ying was zeroing in on Hunt. A
- 43:02very dangerous flash flood event is unfolding across south central
- 43:06Kerr County, he wrote on Slacket two minutes after the hour,
- 43:09and Hunt was near the Bonseye worst. The rain was
- 43:13showing no sign of letting up, he noted. Runyon wrote
- 43:17that Hunt was in a minor flood stage and might
- 43:19reach moderate later this morning, he wrote. Twenty minutes later,
- 43:24at three fifty six am, flooding at Hunt had moved
- 43:27beyond moderate and into a major flood stage, Runyan wrote.
- 43:31He added that the Weather Service was about to issue
- 43:34another alert through IPAUS to residents' bones and Kerr and
- 43:37Bendera Counties. This one a flash flood emergency, categorized as catastrophic.
- 43:46Several lines into the text message the morning was urgent.
- 43:50Moved to higher ground now, this is an extremely dangerous
- 43:54and life threatening situation. It read it is important to
- 43:59know where you are relative to streams, rivers or creeks,
- 44:02which can become killers in heavy rains. Campers and hikers
- 44:07should avoid streams or creeks. Runyon's message on slack. The
- 44:12Public Weather Service alerts and the surging river gages weren't
- 44:16the only signs that this situation in Kerr County was
- 44:19becoming life threatening. Around that time, John Trollinger, a former
- 44:24Kerr County information technology official, said he was listening with
- 44:28increasing despair to radio communications from firefighters and first responders
- 44:34who described the disaster as it unfolded. Trollingeter recorded many
- 44:40of the transmissions and provided copies to the Post. At
- 44:44three twenty seven am, volunteer firefighters radio dispatchers had reported
- 44:48that the Guadalupe River was starting to come up, and
- 44:52that Schimacher crossing of a loved swimming hole between Ingram
- 44:56and Hunt was no longer passable, according to a recording
- 44:59of the radio call. Shortly after first responders rescued someone
- 45:05from the water, dispatches began fielding calls from flooded houses.
- 45:10Over the next two hours, there were at least seventeen
- 45:13different radio transmissions referring to rescues, according to a post
- 45:17review of Trollinger's recordings. At four twenty two am, a
- 45:22local filefighter told dispatches they should send a code red
- 45:25alert to tell residents and Hunt to find higher ground.
- 45:30A minute later, the dispatcher's voice crackled back, stand by,
- 45:34we need to get that. Get that approved by our supervisor.
- 45:38Texas Public Radio first reported the exchange. Call after call,
- 45:43the radio transmissions of emergency of personnel captured the growing disaster.
- 45:49First Responders described children trapped on roofs, an R and
- 45:52V full of people floating down the river, frantic attempts
- 45:56to evacuate the campground, and a child an adult screw
- 46:00for help. About four thirty five am, the river level
- 46:04had surged above twenty nine feet near Hunt. Shortly after that,
- 46:09the gauge was destroyed as the water continued to rise.
- 46:13The geological survey crews later measured the high water market
- 46:16thirty seven point fifty two feet, surpassing the river's previous
- 46:22record level set in July of nineteen thirty two. Kirk
- 46:27County officials made their first public comment. At five thirty
- 46:31one eight m someone posted on the Kerr County Facebook
- 46:35page that the river gauge had gone offline and that
- 46:39flooding was happening now. Minutes later, at five point thirty
- 46:44two am, the Kirk County Sheriff's Office urged on its
- 46:48Spacebook page that people near the river should move to
- 46:52higher ground immediately. Two and a half days after the flooding,
- 46:57as rains continued, Kirk officials at the first evacuation order
- 47:02through ie pause high confidants of river flooding again. The
- 47:07message sent from Thomas's email address at to fifty eight
- 47:11pm on July six, evacuate the Guadalupe River and lower
- 47:16eyeing areas moved to higher ground. The next front page
- 47:22article entitled Investigations. He may have stopped Trump's would be assassin.
- 47:30Now he's telling his story in his first extensive medior
- 47:34interviews since the assassination attempt. Aaron Zelpony, a forty six
- 47:40year old Army combat veteran recounted firing the ninth shot.
- 47:46There is a picture of him in a blue T shirt.
- 47:51It's probably size of the extra extra large because he's
- 47:53a very muscled man with tattooing on his left arm.
- 47:59He has a ball cap on with sunglasses above the visor,
- 48:03which is shaped into an archway. He has a beard
- 48:09laced with white at the bottom of his chin, and
- 48:12a mustache. He's got sort of eyes like mine. They
- 48:17are not wide and bright, they are narrow and little eyes.
- 48:23He has a watcher on and his hands are crossed
- 48:26in front of him, and it says Alan Zelopony recourned
- 48:30the moments before, during, and after the assassination attempt on
- 48:34Donald Trump last summer by Sean Boberg out of Adams, PA.
- 48:40As gunfire erupted at Donald Trump's campaign rally in Butler
- 48:45last July, Aaron Zelophony glanced up and caught sight of
- 48:49the shooter's head and shoulders jutting above the peak of
- 48:52a roofline about one hundred and fifteen yards away. The
- 48:56Butler County swat team operator, standing in an open field
- 49:00between the gunman and the rally stage, snapped up his
- 49:04rifle alioned the red dot of its scope with the
- 49:07shooter's chin and fired a single shot. Would be assassin
- 49:11Thomas Matthew Crooks immediately jerked to his right and slumped
- 49:16back from the roof's edge. Zalaponi recalled ending his volley
- 49:20of eight gun shots over five seconds that left Trump bloodied,
- 49:25one rally go a dead, and two seriously injured. I
- 49:30just got you, Xalaponi recalled, thinking. Zealoponi, a forty six
- 49:35year old Army combat veteran, is convinced that his round,
- 49:39which public officials have called the ninth shot, struck Crook's
- 49:44rifle and forced him to stop shooting. His belief that
- 49:48he cut short the assassination attempt has been echoed by
- 49:52Butler County's district attorney, the county's swat team commander, and
- 49:57a congressman who investigated the events that day. Yet one
- 50:02year later, the significance of Xalopony's shot is still unresolved.
- 50:06The FBI has said it found no forensic evidence that
- 50:10the ninth shot hit Crooks or his rifle. What is
- 50:13certain is that Crooks, who had additional ammunition and an
- 50:17ar style rifle that was still operational, never fired again.
- 50:22Salapony shot was followed by a ten second Pawson gun
- 50:26fire that ended when a US Secret Service counter sniper
- 50:30killed crooks. In the months after the assassination attempt, the
- 50:35nation's attention and multiple investigations focused on the Secret Service's
- 50:41most glaring security failure in decades, and on vexine questions
- 50:45about the shooter's possible motives. The story of the local
- 50:49officer's quick and decisive action amid chaos was largely overshadowed.
- 50:55Zaloponi's account has been documented in closed door interviews with
- 50:59congressional and mining investigators, and celebrated quietly within his SWAT team.
- 51:04The Washington Post were put it on the ninth shot
- 51:07last July, but did not identify Zalapony, who declined to
- 51:11interview requests through an intermediary at the time. The father
- 51:16of two who grew up about two miles from the
- 51:19Butler Farms Show rally site, he joined the Pennsylvania Army
- 51:23National Guard after high school and was deployed on three
- 51:26combat tours overseas. In twenty eleven, he became a police
- 51:31officer in rural Adams Township, where he is now a
- 51:35sergeant In addition to serving on the county's swat team,
- 51:39a six foot three and two hundred and eighty five pounds,
- 51:43Zalapony is physically imposing. He is also laconic and fiercely private,
- 51:48saying he prefers to keep to himself and avoid the
- 51:51media's spotlight. I'd rather be on five thousand acres in Montana,
- 51:56on a hillside where I can see all approaches, he
- 51:59told the in his first extensive media interviews since the
- 52:03assassination attempt. He reeruptively agreed to talk to The Post,
- 52:08he said, because his swack team commander told him it
- 52:11was important to share his story. Zalapony might not have
- 52:15been in a position to take the ninth shot if
- 52:18not for a coin toss, he and his swat team
- 52:20commander's sergeant, ed Linz, told The Post in an interview
- 52:24this month. Two days before the rally, the Secret Service
- 52:28asked if one member of the Butler County swat team
- 52:31would take on an especially high profile role joining a
- 52:35federal counter assault team tasked with staying close to Trump
- 52:38during his visit. Zalapony and another swack team member of
- 52:42marine veteran were both candidates for the coveted assignment a
- 52:46rare opportunity to meet the then former president. Lynz suggested
- 52:51flipping a coin. Xalaponi's colleague bet on heads and won.
- 52:56Xaloponi's loss left him in command of a local candor
- 53:00salt unit posted in a red barn behind and to
- 53:03the north of the rally stage. That's how I ended
- 53:07up out there, he said. There is a diagram of
- 53:11the stage of where he was standing by the stage
- 53:16and showing about one hundred and fifty yards between him
- 53:19and Crook's location. Hours before Trump's arrival, a local officer
- 53:24sold Zalaponi he was concerned about four suspicious individuals he
- 53:29saw hanging around the warehouses of Agra International, a local
- 53:33business adjacent to the rally site. The four people, each
- 53:37wearing distinctly covered shirts, had remained even as the propertyanna
- 53:41tried to show spectators away. The officer referred to one
- 53:44of the suspicious individuals, whom Zalapony later learned was Crooks,
- 53:49as a gray shirt. Just keep an eye on him,
- 53:52Saloponi said. He told the other officer, let me know
- 53:55what's going on. At five twenty four pm, about twenty
- 53:59minutes fromore before Trump took the stage, another local officer
- 54:02issued in the lard over the radio, the young male
- 54:05was lurking around the Agro building and had been spotted
- 54:09looking through a range founder at the rally stage, the
- 54:11officer warned. According to his timestamped transcript of encrypted radio
- 54:16communications previously attained by the Post, police then lost track
- 54:21of the suspicious young mail and called in additional officers
- 54:24to help shirk searched. The transcript shows Salaponi recalled that
- 54:29he and members of his WHAT team emerged from the
- 54:31barn and looked toward the Agro building. Haines saw no
- 54:35sign of the young male and a gray shirt. Several
- 54:38minutes after Trump took stage, Lyn's relayed an urgent message
- 54:42over the radio mail on roof of the long gun.
- 54:45He said, at six eleven pm, Zalapony immediately ordered members
- 54:49of his counter assault team to get their tactical vehicle
- 54:52and raised to the complex, Go go go. He recalled,
- 54:55telling them that Zalaponi stayed where he was. Technically I
- 55:00should have gone with my team, he said, I don't
- 55:02know what it was, but something told me to stay here.
- 55:05Then came the first three shots fired in less than
- 55:08two seconds, Saloponi scanned the base of the agrobilgio but
- 55:12saw no shoot him. On the fourth shot, he looked
- 55:15up and saw Crooks. There you are, he thought. As
- 55:18he spotted Crooks lying prone with his rifle extended over
- 55:21the peak of the roof and aimed toward the stage,
- 55:24Salaponi raised his rifle, a standard issue m Ford swat
- 55:28raffle with a red dots sign that had no magnification,
- 55:32meaning his target appeared no closer than it would have
- 55:35with the neked eye. He aimed for Crook's chin, figuring
- 55:39it better to risk missing load and hit Krook's body
- 55:43or the roof than miss high. All this went through
- 55:46my head in a mill a second, he said. He
- 55:48pulled the trigger less than six seconds after Crooks opened fire,
- 55:52according to an audio analysis, and then Crooks had fired
- 55:55eight rounds. Salaponian, experienced marksman, said he's one hundred and
- 56:01ten certain that his shot may contact Cooks jerked hard
- 56:06to the right and slumped over his weapon. Salopony recalled,
- 56:09it wasn't like he was ducking or flinching. Something smacked him,
- 56:13whether it was my round hitting the butt stock or
- 56:15the butt stock exploding in his face. I know I
- 56:18hit him. No video has emerged publicly that shows Crook's
- 56:22immediate reaction to the ninth shot. A shaky video taken
- 56:26by a rally attendee captures a moment shortly after the
- 56:29ninth shot when Crooks appears to have turned away from
- 56:32the rally's site. His face is visible to the crowd
- 56:35on the west side of the building, where the person
- 56:38recording the video is standing. The video shows he then
- 56:41appears to reposition himself, turning back toward the rally. Zalaponi
- 56:47said he kept his rifle aimed on the roof's peak.
- 56:50He saw Cook's hair emerge above the roofline just before
- 56:53the Secret Service countershot counter sniper's shot killed him. Bodycam
- 56:59footage leased by the Butler Township Police Department shows Saloponies
- 57:04standing in the field aiming toward the agribuilder in the
- 57:07moments after the sniper's shot. Saloponi ran to the stands
- 57:11to help attendees who had been shot. According to Core,
- 57:14a comparatour who had been killed. Zalopony was then dispatched
- 57:19to a local hospital where Trump was being treated. To
- 57:23secure a helicopter landing zone in case the former president
- 57:27had to be airlifted. It wasn't until around ten pm
- 57:30that night that he told Limps about the shot he fired.
- 57:34Xaloponi said he waited until the next morning to tell
- 57:37his wife. As they sat down for coffee, she said,
- 57:39are you serious? He recalled, and he reluctantly told his
- 57:43father after his dad brought up rumors about additional gunfire.
- 57:47Not from crooks or the Secret Service sniper. That was me,
- 57:51he told his father, but don't tell anyone else. For
- 57:55weeks after the shooting, Zalaponi wrestled with flashbacks of his
- 57:59time and I'm back and with one enduring regret. I
- 58:02wish I would have just looked up to the roof sooner,
- 58:06he said, maybe everyone's still there. There's a little bit
- 58:10more of the article, but I don't have time to
- 58:12read it. So I say thank you for listening to
- 58:15today's Saturday, the twelfth of July's issue of The Washington Post.
- 58:22Please continued listening to radio throughout the weekend. I'll be
- 58:29back next Thursday. Ah