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- 0:00The news, opinions, commentary, and interviews. You need to start your
- 0:05day. You're listening to the West Carrol Morning Show, Tuesday morning, nineteenth
- 0:12day of September. I'm Wes. Thanks for joining me. Yes, the
- 0:17Christmas stuffs and stores. I saw some of that yesterday. Actually, I
- 0:22think I noticed some of it over the weekend. I just didn't pay attention
- 0:25to it. But I didn't notice some yesterday. But it's there. It's
- 0:29to be expected. I know some people who kick up a stink. I
- 0:33the Christmas stuffs out and it's not even October yet. It's okay. Stores
- 0:38are just trying to make their money. They're trying to, you know,
- 0:40get in the black That's what they're trying to do. That's what you know
- 0:43Black Friday. That's the whole essence of it, right. They're trying to
- 0:45get to that point where they're trying to get into it sooner rather than later,
- 0:50or at least getting to the best possible starting point for like a Black
- 0:54Friday they can get to. That's what they want to do. That's fair.
- 0:58It's called the free market. Do what they want to do. You
- 1:00can be mad and you can stay home and you can not shop. That's
- 1:03your part in the free market if that's what you want. But let them
- 1:08put up their decorations whenever they're ready. Let him put out the product,
- 1:11let him start trying to sell it sooner rather than later. The sooner we
- 1:15buy our stuff for Christmas, the sooner than you don't have to get in
- 1:18the stores during the Christmas rush if you don't want to. That's just the
- 1:22reality. Okay, So here is what I want to talk about today,
- 1:26because I guess a couple of weekends ago, and I know this past weekend,
- 1:32I guess it was touched on again. I didn't. I think he
- 1:36did a follow up sermon on it. Now. I haven't watched the entirety
- 1:42of the sermon. I'm not going to. I don't want to spend too
- 1:48much time, specifically on what I can perceive from the news coverage of this
- 1:56as complete ignorance on the part of someone. And ignorance is the best word
- 2:01for it, I think, because we have to understand that, especially living
- 2:07in the Deep South. I don't know about the rest of the country.
- 2:08I know in the Deep South, when you call someone ignorant, you're calling
- 2:13them stupid, right, that's just sort of slang. That's very colloquial for
- 2:16us. Someone is ignorant, they're stupid. What in reality, calling someone
- 2:22ignorant is really more just saying they're uninformed. They're uneducated, they don't know
- 2:25better. Okay, and that's probably the best way to describe. This Guy's
- 2:30name is Rick Morrow. He's the pastor of the Beulah Baptist Church in Richland,
- 2:38Missouri, and he was doing a sermon. I don't know what the
- 2:44full message of the sermon was. I don't know exactly. I just know
- 2:47that at some point he decided to go off. Maybe this was the whole
- 2:52sermon, I don't know, but I know at some point he decided he
- 2:55felt it was in his best interest to address his congregation and talk about autism
- 3:04and how it is caused by demonic powers, and that if parents would just
- 3:09cast the demon out of their children, it would cure them of autism.
- 3:15Now, this goes back to September the sixth was when the sermon happened.
- 3:19Now a week later, I guess this past weekend on the thirteenth, he
- 3:23spoke about it again. We'll get to that in just a minute, but
- 3:27what he said was, if it's not demonic. Then we have to say
- 3:30God made them that way. That's the only other explanation. Either the devil
- 3:36has attacked them, He's brought this infirmity upon them, He's got them where
- 3:42he wants them, and or God just doesn't like them very much and he
- 3:46made them that way. Well, my God doesn't make junk. God doesn't
- 3:51make mess ups. And he talked about how lots of kids who are autistic
- 3:57have been cured by a minister that he knows who just praised for them.
- 4:01He said he had to pray and their brain was rewired and they were fixed.
- 4:09So it was posted to the Facebook profile of the Buell Baptist Church,
- 4:16hundreds of thousands of views and comments talking about what happened, asking for his
- 4:20resignation. He was also on the school board in this particular town. He
- 4:27was asked to resign from that as well. It's been taken down from the
- 4:30Facebook page, and there's a obviously a lot of people have concerns about this.
- 4:39So let's start with his ignorance about autism. Okay, he's seeing autism
- 4:48as some sort of infirmity that has been brought upon people by the devil.
- 4:58That's the way he's describing it. Okay, Now, maybe he hasn't been
- 5:05made aware that the overall perception of autism asd as it's now referred and it's
- 5:16now referred to more of a spectrum rather than as you know, you have
- 5:24aspergers, or you have autism or you know whatever. Now it's perceived as
- 5:28this spectrum, and there is a certainly a broad range of conditions of symptoms
- 5:35that people display when they have autism or on the spectrum as it's actually referred
- 5:44to now. So I guess to him, everybody, it's all one giant
- 5:49thing. It's no longer you know that you've heard the term high functioning autism.
- 5:54I don't even know if that term is really used very much anymore,
- 5:58but that is certainly a way to sort of help explain stage one maybe of
- 6:03autism, where people have certain social anxieties, maybe they're very gifted at certain
- 6:12things, they have a very strong focus on certain things. You might be
- 6:15very gifted in one or two subjects at school, maybe even a lot of
- 6:18subjects. There's you know, talk about people like you know, Da Vinci
- 6:26possibly having been autistic, or Einstein or some of the great minds of all
- 6:30time, Elon Musk has said that he is on the spectrum. So that's
- 6:34the first thing to understand is there are various stages and it's a spectrum.
- 6:42Okay, this is not something that if your perception of autism is what you've
- 6:48gathered from one or two people that you have seen that certainly maybe have a
- 6:54more severe case of it, more severe symptoms. It's probably the better way
- 6:58to say it than a severe case of it, but more severe symptoms to
- 7:00go with it. Really struggle with loud noises, really struggle with most noises.
- 7:06You might see people that have to shut out sounds around them. And
- 7:12I don't know what his experience is with people with autism, but I know
- 7:16that this is someone who is speaking about it as if he understands autism,
- 7:20and he clearly does not. He doesn't understand ASD doesn't understand the spectrum.
- 7:27He's trying to just I think, shoot from the hip, from the pulpit.
- 7:30I don't know exactly what his goal was here. Perhaps maybe he could
- 7:36say that, you know, he believes that people that have more severe cases
- 7:42it could be lessened or healed. But I think more people that I know
- 7:46and encounter in a daily life, my daily life that are on the spectrum,
- 7:53they're doing just fine. I know that there are some cases where people
- 7:56are not able to live day to day on their own. They're going to
- 8:00need some assistance in life, but there's a lot of people that have what
- 8:05at one time, maybe it still is, I don't know, but was
- 8:07referred to as high functioning autism. When you talk about an Elon Musk or
- 8:11a Jerry Seinfeld who has said that he believes he is on the spectrum,
- 8:16I think they're doing just fine, and I think maybe it may be part
- 8:20of what drives them towards success. It gives them focus, it helps them
- 8:24in a lot of ways. So I don't know what this guy is talking
- 8:30about specifically here. However, what it does is it caused this major backlash
- 8:37towards the religious community. I saw comments from people saying this is why the
- 8:41church or this is why Christianity is awful, this is why it's terrible because
- 8:48of things like this and what before. I don't want to get away from
- 8:54talking about this guy, because he did eventually go back I guess this past
- 9:01weekend and said he wanted to clarify that he thinks autism is junk and not
- 9:07the children affected by it by saying I have been told that autism is a
- 9:13blessing from God. I've been told I'm the evil one. But you know
- 9:16what, if I was to stand up here and say cancer as junk,
- 9:18people would agree. If I were to stand up here and say addiction as
- 9:20junk, people would agree. But autism isn't cancer, Autism isn't addiction.
- 9:28Okay, That's that's where the ignorance comes in. Is this is someone who
- 9:31just doesn't understand it. Oh, but I want to go back to the
- 9:35comments that were made by someone that I saw a post that they basically said,
- 9:39this is the problem with the church. And I think it's interesting the
- 9:45areas where we decide to sort of pick and choose who we allow to represent
- 9:52certain groups. And I'm gonna pick on the left here because they like to
- 9:58say when someone takes a gun into a crowded area and shoots, that's all
- 10:01gun owners, that's the that's the tragedy of guns. All guns lead to
- 10:07that all guns or the problem. They don't want to pinpoint it on the
- 10:09individual who made the decision to do it. Even when someone drives a car
- 10:15into a crowd of people. They find a way to turn What was his
- 10:18political affiliation? Was he an a right person? Was the what was the
- 10:22situation that made him do that? They look for the big picture on who
- 10:26they can lump them in with, rather than step back and say, here's
- 10:31someone an individual who did something that was very wrong. So here is a
- 10:35minister who did something that's very wrong, largely based on his ignorance of what
- 10:43he's talking about. He just doesn't understand. He could spend some time,
- 10:46I don't know, maybe researching autism before he decides to talk about it,
- 10:50and I don't know, I don't know what his history is. So I
- 10:54really can't come from a place of judgment other than to say he was ignorant
- 10:56and he was wrong. What he said was wrong. He doesn't represent churches
- 11:01across the country. He doesn't represent Christianity, He doesn't represent my faith.
- 11:07He doesn't represent what I believe about people that are on the spectrum any more
- 11:11than a person who breaks out a rifle and shoots at a crowd of people
- 11:16represents what I think about guns or what I think that all guns are bad.
- 11:24Remember when Pat Robertson with seven hundred club, he used to talk about
- 11:28hurricanes. When hurricanes would hit New Orleans, he would say things like,
- 11:31well, this is their punic God is punishing the people of New Orleans for
- 11:37Marty Gras and all the debauchery that happens there. I don't know what his
- 11:39exact words were, but I'm paraphrasing. I just like saying debauchery. I
- 11:43think that's a fun word to say in that particular context. But he was
- 11:46basically saying that New Orleans was being punished with hurricanes, as if hurricanes didn't
- 11:54happen and then all of a sudden they just started happening to punish people,
- 11:58And people would say, oh my god, what complete ignorance this is for
- 12:01someone to say that hurricanes are some sort of punishment towards people for doing something
- 12:09that you know, maybe society maybe thought might be wrong. There's a lot
- 12:15of pretty debaucherous behavior that happens in New Orleans. You know, not everybody
- 12:20there, but there's a lot of it that happens there. Used to be
- 12:22more so I think, I don't know. I've only been once. I
- 12:26saw some things. I saw some things I can't unsee right, So,
- 12:33but that doesn't represent what I feel about the hurricanes. They're hurricanes. They're
- 12:37a natural phenomena that happens and has happened for millions of years. This isn't
- 12:43new. It didn't just suddenly start happening to New Orleans as some sort of
- 12:48a plague on New Orleans because you know, some ladies flashed at people when
- 12:54they threw beads at them, anymore than her. Hurricanes are a punishment on
- 13:03I don't know, Florida. We just heard this recently, right, it's
- 13:07a punishment on Florida. I've heard everything from it's a punishment on Florida for
- 13:11not doing more to protect the environment, because that's a new religion. By
- 13:15the way, hurricanes are punishing people of Florida for not doing more. They're
- 13:20punishing people of Florida for voting for Rhonda Santis for their governor. There's a
- 13:24lot of for being more conservative. There's a lot of punishment that folks on
- 13:28the left seem to think is okay. They couldn't buy it when Pat Robertson
- 13:33said it about New Orleans, but they buy it when it matches whatever it
- 13:37is that they want to say. Does that make any sense? I don't
- 13:41think that that doesn't make any sense at all, does it. It's also
- 13:43coming from a place of ignorance. See, hurricanes have been around for a
- 13:48long time, a long time, longer than we've even recorded them. They've
- 13:52they've existed for a very very long time. At least science tells us that
- 13:56if we're going to follow science, oh, you gotta find all the science
- 14:00we have to. So what is it about taking just one person that we
- 14:07don't like in making them the scapegoat for it? What is it about the
- 14:11one person that says something and then we blame and then we turn around and
- 14:16by we I'm talking about these people on the left that decided that Pat Robertson
- 14:20was wrong, he was downright evil. But the people who are saying it
- 14:26about the state of Florida and hurricanes and climate change, well they know what's
- 14:31up, right, They've got it figured out. When are we going to
- 14:35start realizing that climate extremism is a offshoot of the climate religion. The climate
- 14:46change religion has its extremists that say the world is going to end in ten
- 14:52years, in fifteen years, and twenty years, whatever it is, the
- 14:56world is going to end. We're all going to die. Does that sound
- 15:01like what some religious extremists, especially I know there's still people that do it,
- 15:05but there used to be people that would do it and make headlines.
- 15:07I don't know. Twenty years ago, thirty years ago. I remember when
- 15:11I was in high school, there was talk someone said, oh my gosh,
- 15:13nineteen eighty eight, and that wasn't quite high school for me. That
- 15:16was middle school, I guess. But oh my gosh, nineteen eighty eight,
- 15:22that's forty years after Israel became a country again, and that's when the
- 15:26world is gonna end. There were people who believed that, and then when
- 15:30that didn't happen, they said, well, well we got to get to
- 15:31the year two thousand. Two thousand, for some reason became significant. I
- 15:37don't know what was significant about that, because it, you know, if
- 15:39we're really trying to I mean, I don't know, I don't know what
- 15:43made two thousand a significant number. But they said the world is gonna end
- 15:46in two thousand and people in all these crazy religious wackos are telling us we're
- 15:52all gonna die. It's where there's no way we're gonna be able to survive.
- 15:58That's what these people are thinking. They believe that. Look at these
- 16:00crazies and now here we are. And you know this has been going on
- 16:06for a while too, but it's really really kicked up a notch in the
- 16:08last couple of decades where it's, oh, my gosh, the climate is
- 16:12going to kill us all. That's not wasn't climate. At first. We
- 16:17were gonna have an ice age that would kill us all. And then it
- 16:19became it's gonna get so hot, global warming is gonna kill us all.
- 16:25We're supposed to have been dead many times over many times, and we had
- 16:30you know, just recently, I guess Jane Fonda said, if we've even
- 16:33got twelve years left in us, that's all. We got twelve years.
- 16:37And I know she's not an expert. She's no more an expert on climate
- 16:41change than Neil Degrass Tyson is on gender identity. I understand that doesn't mean
- 16:48that they don't chime in on it, though, do they. They like
- 16:51to jump in and talk about things that maybe they don't really know what they're
- 16:53talking about. But my point is, if climate change religion has extremists that
- 17:00say the world is going to end, we have to start acknowledging them the
- 17:03way that we acknowledge the religious people who say the world is going to end.
- 17:08There's an actual written doctrine for the religious people, though they can sit
- 17:11there and say, well, I've got some reference from the Bible that leads
- 17:15me to believe these things. At least they've got something they're basing it on.
- 17:18What are the climate change people basing on some weather information in some cases
- 17:23temperatures that were written down that were just made up by people. Remember the
- 17:27guy who lost track of writing down the temperatures at one point, so he
- 17:32just went back and just made some stuff up to make it match what he
- 17:34needed it to. Remember that guy, Yeah, that was a guy.
- 17:38That was a guy. So what are we basing it on on the extreme
- 17:44left when they talk about the climate change religion? Why can't we stop and
- 17:48say, wait a minute, maybe we need to stop looking at the extremists
- 17:53and focus on the people. They're actually trying to do some good, the
- 17:59religious people. People who aren't trying to fire and brimstone you into faith.
- 18:03They're trying to tell you, hey, the Christian faith can be a great
- 18:07thing. Here's why it's great. Here's what a relationship with Jesus is about.
- 18:11This is what it's like. This is what the positives are. This
- 18:15is what you gain from it, not trying to fire and brimstone you into
- 18:18scaring you to death, and then suddenly the day comes and the world doesn't
- 18:22end, and you think, what was that about. Maybe the same could
- 18:26be done for the extremists when it comes to climate Maybe we could talk about,
- 18:32hey, let's focus on some positives. Let's focus on trying to win
- 18:37people over. We're not trying to scare them to death. We're all gonna
- 18:40die in fifteen years. And then fifteen years comes and goes and it's really
- 18:44no different. We've gone up by point zero one degrees in that fifteen years,
- 18:48and people go, well, it's still a lot though. Boy,
- 18:51that is pooh. Think about how hot it is outside right now. Man,
- 18:55it is hot. It really isn't connected at all, is it.
- 19:00It's really not connected at all to the global scale that we're all going to
- 19:03die that you screamed about. It's a whole different thing, isn't it.
- 19:08So, whether it's the autism preacher coming at it from ignorance, or that
- 19:14people screaming the world's gonna end because of climate change, ignorance and all of
- 19:18the potential ignorance in between. There's a lot of potential ignorance out there.
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- 26:21and college. What if you're really really thrifty, I mean really really
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- 26:49dress isn't easy and it's uh, you know, often not affordable at all.
- 26:56I'm speaking as you know, a thrifty kind of person. If there's
- 27:00a nursing student at University of Alabama who her name is emili Ostrahote, and
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- 28:07Nice good for her spotting things, just spotting things that are worth something
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