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#689 FireSide Chat w/ the Crew; 28 Jun 2026 · The Lost Art Project: Veterans’ Voices

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Hello, hello, my friends,
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and welcome back to the Lost Art Project
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Veterans Voices.
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I'm your host, Andrew Cox,
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and today we are having a fireside chat
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with the crew.
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But before we get into the episode,
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are you enjoying these podcasts?
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Make sure you hit up the website.
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That's the Lost Art Project Veterans
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Voices website.
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We have a raffle going on.
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Oh my goodness gracious.
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Great balls of fire.
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You guys got to check this out.
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Saddleback Leather Company out of Texas
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donated this bag.
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And this is the flight bag.
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And if you don't know anything about
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Saddleback Leather,
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you need to go check them out because
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it is amazing, amazing organization.
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I have probably about ten too many bags
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from them.
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But anyways,
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they're auctioning that or we're raffling
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that off.
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So you can get your raffle ticket and
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everything.
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Go to the website.
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You'll see it.
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Let's see.
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Other than that,
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big shout out to the Tilval Hollow Project
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out there doing amazing things.
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go check them out.
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oh my goodness gracious look who we got
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here i'm telling you we got a an
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outstanding cast today um i guess we'll go
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around see how everybody's doing mike how
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are you man doing good everything's good
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can't complain nice nice i like i like
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it short brief to the point all right
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that's good that's good nothing wrong with
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that nothing wrong with that at all
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Mark, how are things going out there?
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Outstanding, Andrew.
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Outstanding.
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Weather's just unbelievably gorgeous.
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Very nice.
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Very nice.
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Loving it.
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And Jess, what about you?
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Way up north, man.
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That's for Mark.
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I'm just going to say that out loud.
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We have entered.
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The south has invaded the north.
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It's swamp ass season right now.
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Oh, nice.
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Okay.
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It's like ninety and ninety right now.
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It's super great.
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it was perfect and then it's not anymore
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it's like all the worse weather so if
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you can't handle me am i worse you
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can't handle me my other worst that's the
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two seasons we were about six months apart
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so nice not it's uh it's hot it's
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muggy and uh yeah it's uh it's july
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in south dakota so
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You usually like that up there in the
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summer?
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Oh, yeah.
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Is it?
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Okay.
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Yeah,
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we got like an inch and a half
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of rain last night,
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and it's trying to cook off in one
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day.
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Yeah, that's fine.
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That makes for some awesome swamp ass
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right there.
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A couple tornadoes came through last night
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up north of us.
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Oh, wow.
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Yeah, it's just that season.
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You guys are having a ball up there.
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I'm telling you.
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Yeah, it's Kansas.
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Kansas weather up north.
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Yeah.
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But yeah,
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Mark talks like it's eighty degrees and
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like perfect out.
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And we sailed right past that.
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You passed eighty like it was cool.
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Blew right by it.
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Naughty.
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No,
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we got Georgia weather in South Dakota.
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So I'm like, yay.
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and then we'll get snow and then we'll
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try it again so nice it's gonna be
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snow in a couple months it feels like
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now that's funny yeah summer's almost over
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uh it was every town around us is
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going through like their uh their days
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right now it's like we got teapot days
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harrisburg days
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so we were coming back from iowa at
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a funeral yesterday and we got pulling
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back in like ten last night and it
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was like fireworks everywhere just the
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whole sky just ripping out fireworks i'm
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like we have officially started
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celebration season so that's that's good
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we are in it did you you realize
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it's this week right oh yeah yeah it's
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wild it's crazy i mean i was i
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was like trying to
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And it's also construction season.
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So I'm driving through a town with
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roundabouts and like Casey's and all these
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other like brick stars.
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And there's a detour.
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Like, where am I going on this detour?
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I'm like going through neighborhoods.
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I'm like, this is wild.
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And that's just like fireworks going off
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everywhere.
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Some of the best.
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Well, taco pizza.
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Yeah.
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They do.
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I mean, they, I,
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if you haven't initiated in Casey's pizza,
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you just, it's a thing up here.
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It's good.
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So it's a gas station with pizza that
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is rivals just most places.
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And Tori Weber says, hey, what's up?
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Do you know who that is, Mark?
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Who?
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Tori Weber.
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Tori Weber.
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K-one-B.
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She's asking where you were.
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Let Mike talk.
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Mike, Tori says you need to talk,
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so you need to jump on there, man.
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I'm just listening about Casey's pizza.
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That's all.
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You got to try it.
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It's good stuff.
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They'll do like jalapeno brisket pizza.
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It's on another level.
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And then, but they have a taco pizza.
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It's like just, it's the weirdest thing,
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but it's good.
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Oh, it's always great.
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Casey's pizza is on another level.
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It's a dough.
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It's a dough.
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It's just great.
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Nice.
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That's a Midwestern thing.
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You're just like,
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I'm going to fill up my tank,
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get a slice of Casey's pizza,
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and I'm on my way.
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Well, shoot,
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we got a big episode coming up on
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the second, July second in the evening.
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It's actually going to start at six
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central.
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Not you guys.
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Your portion will start at the normal
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time, but six central because.
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Marine or I'm sorry,
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Quantico Marine Band is actually going to
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be performing.
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They're doing their concert that night.
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I'm going to live stream their rock band
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portion starting at six central.
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So it should be a cool thing.
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So you could jump on here.
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You can watch a marine band perform the
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rock band.
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They're going to do their thing.
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It should be a good time.
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And then, of course,
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we're going to have the regular scheduled
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fireside chat here.
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But we're going to have a couple of
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special guests along with us.
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We are going to have the gentleman,
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one hundred and one years old.
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He's going to be on here.
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I'm excited about it.
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He's a cool dude.
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Hopefully he has fun with us.
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And then we're also going to have a
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guest from Saddleback Leather,
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the guy that actually started the company
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and everything down there.
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He's going to be on.
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He's going to talk to us about the
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leather company and, you know,
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that type of thing a little bit.
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So it should be a pretty cool thing.
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And then we're just going to talk about
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two hundred and fifty man,
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two hundred and fifty years.
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That's amazing.
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And Mike has been here for all of
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them.
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So I don't know how he did it,
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but Mark's been here for all of them,
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I thought.
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I figured I'd switch it up and pick
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on Mike tonight instead of Mark.
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So, you know,
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Mike still got nothing to say.
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I was trying to think of something that,
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you know, Mark was,
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when Washington crossed to Delaware or
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whatever it was, Mark's been yelling, Roe!
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Roe!
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What are you saying?
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He was a coxswain on that thing.
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That's nice.
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So there's like a company who does like,
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they take classic portraits and then they
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modernize them a little bit.
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And there's one of Washington across the
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Delaware.
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And then on the side of it,
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it's like rapid assault or rapid raid
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attachment.
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So it's got like Kiowas and little birds
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flying across as well.
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And like guys with like saws and guys
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with nods on and all that.
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And I'm like, so I had,
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I got one of those because my stepdad
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was descendant of the family,
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the Washington family.
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so he hung that up in his wall
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in his office next to his official
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washington portrait yeah so but i was like
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yeah stuff like that yeah so what was
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it like are you in the actual portrait
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or the delaware portrait i've just i gotta
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know yeah mark yeah mark doesn't like to
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be in photos i think i was taking
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i took the photo it wasn't a photo
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that's why you can't see me
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Oh man.
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Yeah.
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So we got a good episode coming up.
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I'm looking forward to it.
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So pass a word for anybody out there
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that watches this tonight.
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Pass a word.
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Tuesday's fireside chat is going to be
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freaking awesome.
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So make sure you get everybody on here
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to listen to it.
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It'd be a good time.
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Uh,
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Yeah.
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So, uh, free up your schedule on, on,
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uh, Thursday.
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That's what I say.
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But, uh, yeah.
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So, uh, what,
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what else has been going on?
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You know, uh,
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what do you guys want to chat about?
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I I'd say a world cup,
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but I mean, it's, uh,
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it's not for everybody.
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World cup's going off.
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I mean,
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America's showcasing itself and it's
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pretty awesome.
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You know what I mean?
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They, uh,
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they're actually doing pretty good this
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year.
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Way better than they have been.
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i i'm saying america as a country is
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doing amazing it's oh yeah yeah yeah yeah
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i think our hosts the ability to host
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something of this size and not even blink
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is just amazing other countries shut down
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they've been able to build stadiums all
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these other problems they run into i mean
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they were watching some kid uh some
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english dude was in like the georgia dome
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in atlanta and he just his jaw just
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hit the floor as soon as he walked
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in like they play football here american
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football here yeah and then he was just
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amazed you could open the ceiling up to
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open the roof up and he was just
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like this is it just the european mind
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can't
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they talk about their stadiums in like
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barcelona and all these other cities and
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just walking into georgia domes like uh
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yeah we just call that the georgia dome
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man and how many we didn't go we
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didn't go up to pontiac or uh detroit
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minnesota didn't get brought into this
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either because we just got the new stadium
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in minneapolis um all these stadiums
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didn't even touch up north so i think
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kansas city is pretty much kansas city new
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york are kind of the top two
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far north as they go i don't think
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anyone higher than that can you imagine if
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they open up the shoe in uh ohio
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or the big house in michigan they could
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play games in there too that would be
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cool so but i mean yeah did they
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say where the championship game is going
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to be
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don't know but there's a chance England
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and America play on July fourth and I'm
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just praying for that so much I think
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I think that uh went out the window
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uh oh it did on this last game
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that they played because they lost uh
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Turkey yeah yeah Turkey well we're gonna
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get it back to Thanksgiving that joke is
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still funny to me yeah that joke ever
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that would have been pretty cool though
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Nah, but I mean.
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They should, you know, we should,
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they should do that anyways.
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Like that should be a staple game that
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just happens every year, no matter what,
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right?
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Spain has to break away all their,
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has to play all their colonies too.
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Like Uruguay, Paraguay, Mexico.
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Anybody who's a part of them.
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Everybody just chewed up the motherland.
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Oh, that's funny.
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England's just going to be bruised and
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bloody at the end of this.
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But.
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And now you follow soccer, don't you?
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Who?
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You.
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I've watched a few games, but I haven't.
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I don't follow it like my daughter does,
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but yeah.
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Yeah, I've watched a couple games.
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I think we watched what?
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Spain and.
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Is it Spain and Iran?
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I think it was Spain.
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I may be wrong.
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What's the really small country that's
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doing extremely well?
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Cape Verde.
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The knockouts.
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That's nuts, too.
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That's pretty cool.
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They're the one that's got the
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forty-year-old goalie, don't they?
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Forty or forty-some years old.
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He's forty.
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They brought him with and he's played out
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of his mind.
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I forget how many followers they said he
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had.
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And by the time that game was over,
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he had like one point eight million
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followers or something.
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I mean, it's now like double million,
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double digits in the millions of followers
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this guy has.
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Wow.
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I read like fifty thousand,
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like a few million.
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It's like we want to know more about
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this guy.
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But I mean, as a host country,
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I think we're knocking out of the park.
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Yeah, I would agree with that.
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A lot of people worried about it.
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A lot of people are like, oh,
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they're going to mess this up.
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Like Bucky's alone.
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I mean, that's right.
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It's just wild brisket, Texas.
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I just think it's absolutely hilarious
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that everybody came over here and they're
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like, whoa, like we've been lied to.
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America's not like the stuff we heard
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about at all.
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This is air conditioning.
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Yeah.
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Destroys their minds.
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Like what is this?
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it's cool i'm loving this but what amazes
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me is they come over here to go
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to costco you know so they go to
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costco to see costco and they're i forget
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what the one guy said it was like
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it was a religious experience or something
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okay he said he thought it was like
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a religious experience or he was in a
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museum that was just he was surrounded by
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precious treasures and stuff but they love
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their socialism over there in europe yeah
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true.
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Wow.
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It's a it's pretty cool that we're doing
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it.
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Got everybody here all over the world
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checking things out.
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Seeing what's so great, right?
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America is a great place.
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It's crazy seeing the Dutch take over an
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entire neighborhood a time lapse that the
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other day and they have the big orange
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bus just rolling right down the middle of
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the highway and like, that's crazy.
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So I mean, it's fun watching it.
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It's
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it's baseball season it's baseball it
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doesn't matter season that's the best way
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to describe it so i i've only watched
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a couple of baseball games i've watched
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zero though huh it's baseball it doesn't
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matter until the all-star break it's no
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one cares
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i think until about end of august it's
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just like oh you guys played my
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mother-in-law cares she watches every
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dodgers game i'm just like oh really nope
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no she gets pissed when they black it
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out oh yes wow they just won't stop
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winning the world series too so it's even
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worse for me shut up about them
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The Dodgers are America's team.
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Like, oh, God, there you go.
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It's like the Cowboys.
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Stop it.
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Anytime you brand yourself America's team,
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you just made yourself the un-American
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team.
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Oh, man.
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Yeah, you know what?
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Football team is America's team.
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They haven't won a championship in a hot
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minute.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, we can watch that VCR tape.
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Remind me.
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Yeah, that's a good point.
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As much as I would love them to
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win and win a championship.
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Oh, you're a Cowboys fan?
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Yeah.
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I mean, I would love them to win,
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but it ain't been happening, so, you know.
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Well,
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cocaine's got to make a hell of a
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comeback for the Cowboys to get good
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again.
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Yeah.
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Oh, no.
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Take it easy on Michael Irving.
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Take it easy.
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He wasn't alone.
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He didn't have a loan.
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Oh, God.
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Nice.
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Get rid of concussion protocols here
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because most of those guys were like,
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didn't even know where they were most of
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the time.
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It was different.
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It was different back then, man.
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They played different ball back then.
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Yeah.
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They played cocaine ball.
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That's what it was.
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Peruvian marching dust as it went ripping
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across the stadium at nine hundred miles
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an hour.
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Speaking of sports and drugs, sorry,
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I did this to myself here,
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but do you guys ever hear,
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you remember Tim Raines?
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He used to play for the Expos.
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What was the name again?
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Tim Raines.
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Oh, yeah.
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Did you guys ever hear about why he
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kept on headfirst sliding?
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He would slide different than anybody
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else.
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Because he kept his Coke in the back
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pocket or front pocket,
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and he was always worried about breaking
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it.
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No.
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No.
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Oh, yeah.
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That's funny.
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Oh, yeah.
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The eighties were wild, bro.
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Wow.
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Interesting.
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Yeah.
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One of the pitchers,
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I think it was a Pirate.
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You might correct me if I'm wrong.
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I'm not sure if you're into Pirates
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baseball,
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but he pitched a no-hitter just blazed out
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of his mind.
19:22
I think he was like stripping balls.
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I think he was on LSD completely.
19:28
He didn't even know where he was just
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throwing the ball.
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Didn't even know what plan he was on.
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I can't remember.
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I only can't think of who that would
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be.
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It was a lot.
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It was the seventies, eighties, but yeah,
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that was, I mean,
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I hear my wife talking in the background
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here,
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but I can remember like Kent to Coley
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and stuff like that,
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but I don't think it was him.
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Oh, hey,
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the Kobe was the one that had that
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funky like through sideways,
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like the sidearm down.
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Yeah, like it's knuckles drugged around,
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but yeah.
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The rest, you know, was the Sabre Hagen.
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It was like a Royals pitcher.
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He was doing the same thing.
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Yeah,
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Doc Ellis threw a legendary no hitter
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against the San Diego Padres in nineteen
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seventy.
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Just high on acid.
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Just completely gone.
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Doc Ellis.
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Yep.
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I mean,
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I suppose it was like sports for sports
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back then.
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Oh, that's crap.
20:29
Oh, get the hell out of here.
20:33
What is the, there's a movie.
20:35
It's not about drugs,
20:36
but a movie from back in the day
20:40
when they were playing football.
20:42
All right.
20:42
And the football just came about and they
20:43
were starting the teams.
20:44
You know what I'm talking about?
20:46
Man,
20:46
I wish I could remember the name of
20:47
the movie.
20:49
What was it?
20:50
Leatherheads?
20:52
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
20:53
That's a great movie.
20:55
Well,
20:55
if you want to talk about what you're
20:57
talking about, all the drugs and all that,
20:59
North Dallas Forty.
21:00
Oh, God.
21:02
Yeah.
21:06
The what?
21:09
North Dallas Forty.
21:13
You'll have to explain that one.
21:14
Yeah.
21:16
You know,
21:16
just like you were talking about all the
21:17
players on drugs and all that crap going
21:22
on.
21:22
And, you know, it's a good movie.
21:28
Like I said, North Dallas, Florida.
21:29
You want to look and see a good
21:30
movie?
21:31
Okay.
21:32
Oh, it's a movie.
21:33
I thought you were talking specifically
21:35
about.
21:36
No, no, no.
21:36
It's a movie.
21:37
I was trying to think.
21:38
I was like, God, when was this?
21:41
There's also a show that I like.
21:43
It's a TV show series.
21:46
It's called Brockmire on HBO.
21:50
That show cracks me up, man.
21:54
If you're offended easily or you have
21:56
children,
21:57
don't watch it in front of the kids.
22:01
Hilarious.
22:01
There's some shows in the first ten
22:03
minutes you know you're going to love it
22:04
or hate it.
22:05
Brockmire is one of them.
22:06
if you can handle the first ten fifteen
22:08
minutes of that show it's for you if
22:10
you can't just walk away because it only
22:14
uh it only continues i set that tone
22:18
hard now tim raines he had two vials
22:24
of coke in his back pocket that's why
22:25
i always slide it slid head first that's
22:27
why i just looked it up those are
22:30
the baseball stories
22:32
Why didn't you just leave it on the
22:33
bench, man?
22:35
Because you never know how long you're
22:36
going to be out there for a pitcher
22:37
change, OK?
22:38
You don't know when you need a ball.
22:39
That's true.
22:39
You never know when you need a need
22:41
a bump.
22:42
You know you gotta get it close to
22:44
a thousand per week.
22:47
And then before during the games you take
22:50
bumps.
22:50
Oh my God,
22:53
I mean it's it's pretty impressive to be
22:56
able to play like that and still be
22:59
that high.
23:01
And Barry Bonds can't get into the Hall
23:02
of Fame.
23:03
I mean, are you kidding me?
23:04
I know, right?
23:05
Performance-enhancing drugs.
23:10
Would you consider Coke
23:13
performance-enhancing?
23:15
Well,
23:15
do you remember when Michael Phelps smoked
23:17
a joint and tested for THC?
23:19
Yeah.
23:21
They were trying to get him for a
23:22
PEV.
23:24
And I'm like,
23:25
that's a performance degrading drug.
23:29
It evens up the field a little bit
23:30
because he was winning like way too much.
23:34
Give everybody a chance, man.
23:42
Sports season.
23:47
The Olympics are coming up what,
23:48
this year?
23:50
Or next year?
23:52
Oh, LA.
23:53
I think they're
23:57
remember the olympics that'll be pretty
23:58
cool though mike you went to the olympics
24:02
uh when they were um hosted last uh
24:06
last time in was it la or no
24:09
it was nineteen eighty four in los angeles
24:12
yeah no there was something else uh that
24:16
they hosted what was it was the winter
24:18
olympics mike
24:21
You're you're on mute.
24:22
I don't know.
24:23
I can't hear you.
24:24
I said the one in two thousand two
24:26
and Salt Lake.
24:27
Yeah, that's what it was.
24:28
Yeah.
24:28
Yeah.
24:29
Yeah.
24:32
They wanted me to go.
24:33
And I said, no,
24:33
I'm the first major division.
24:37
I was like, I'm good.
24:41
Well, Mark,
24:43
you go to the ones in eighty four.
24:45
No.
24:49
Now,
24:51
were you part of the units that got
24:53
sent to L.A.
24:53
during the L.A.
24:54
riots?
24:55
Oh, yeah.
24:56
Ninety two.
24:57
Definitely.
24:58
Tell us about that.
25:00
First Marine Regiment.
25:03
L.A.R.
25:04
was there.
25:06
Yeah.
25:06
So we were supposed to go on a
25:10
ninety six that day.
25:13
And we had a regimental formation.
25:16
Mm hmm.
25:18
We're in Charlie's,
25:21
and the regimental commander said, one,
25:24
one, two, one, have a nice weekend, three,
25:26
one, go back, pack your trash,
25:29
you're going to LA.
25:33
So, ten days later,
25:37
after spending almost ten days in the
25:39
Compton Kmart, because back then,
25:44
Kmart sold weapons.
25:48
Oh, yeah.
25:49
Then we had one platoon was protecting Dow
25:51
Stereo.
25:53
I don't know if anyone ever remembers that
25:54
name.
25:59
Wow.
25:59
And then one platoon from our company,
26:01
they were in Koreatown.
26:03
So they were with the Koreans up on
26:04
top of the roofs, blasting people.
26:06
So they were having fun.
26:10
The Koreans, they didn't take no crap.
26:12
No one was coming through them,
26:13
and they were up on the roofs with
26:15
shotguns.
26:16
black they had taiwan rifles man they were
26:19
rolling like rolling ar styles oh they
26:26
still call them the roof brains i got
26:27
a patch around here somewhere with it and
26:28
that's uh that's also where the roof
26:31
greens that's uh some of the there was
26:33
some three one i think it was state
26:34
platoon was uh with the police officers
26:39
when they were serving a warrant
26:41
And the police officer put them in place,
26:43
you know, had him say, okay.
26:46
He says, when I dash across the street,
26:49
you cover me.
26:52
I said, okay.
26:53
Started running across the street.
26:59
Just firing.
27:00
Is that real?
27:01
Yeah, that's totally real.
27:02
I always thought that was like a story,
27:07
man.
27:07
No, no, no.
27:08
It was real.
27:10
We still used it when I was coming
27:11
up.
27:16
What was the reasoning that they said?
27:17
Because if I'm not mistaken,
27:19
you said the cops come back and they
27:21
were like, no, what are you shooting for?
27:24
So he started running, right?
27:25
And then they started firing.
27:27
So he just like, stop, stop, stop.
27:28
And he goes, cover me.
27:32
That means, he goes,
27:34
that means watch in case something
27:37
happens.
27:41
And then the Marines go ahead.
27:42
That's not cover me means to us.
27:46
We still use that story, man.
27:48
We always thought that was just a joke.
27:50
No, no, no.
27:50
It's a true story.
27:51
True story.
27:52
That was a, that was,
27:53
that was a state platoon three one.
27:55
Cause I heard it was LAR.
27:56
Cause I was just like, Oh, okay.
27:57
I think everybody just adopted it.
28:00
But no, if it was three one,
28:02
you were there.
28:03
Cause they use that all the time.
28:04
We were talking like, no,
28:06
when you're working with somebody else,
28:07
you got to know what their words mean.
28:08
That's right.
28:10
Cover me means different things.
28:11
English is not a common language.
28:17
Yeah.
28:17
Yeah, that's true.
28:17
But yeah,
28:18
the kid with the saw just hosing down
28:19
windows, right?
28:20
Yeah.
28:20
Yep.
28:24
I think they continued on down that line
28:26
too, because over the years,
28:27
it's like any great story.
28:28
It just keeps getting elements.
28:30
No, that really did happen.
28:32
It's not, you know, they,
28:33
so they didn't get that many rounds off,
28:36
you know,
28:36
but it was enough for that when they
28:38
did stop firing that guy that was, uh,
28:40
they were serving the warrant on,
28:41
he gave up right away.
28:43
The story was that he got told to
28:45
us is he called nine one one, man.
28:48
Oh, he might've, he might've.
28:49
Oh man.
28:54
he called like he called the emergency
28:55
lines like help me i'm being being shot
28:58
at like we know that's us don't worry
29:01
about it he was a driver we always
29:07
thought that was an urban myth they're
29:08
just telling us it really happened yeah
29:09
because we talked about that in the
29:12
barracks all the time you spent your time
29:14
at kmart is that what you said yeah
29:16
my platoon was in the copton kmart and
29:20
then what it like did you guys have
29:21
any run-ins with anybody
29:24
No, we didn't,
29:25
not when we were outside of Kmart,
29:28
but when we first got in there,
29:30
like the first night,
29:31
we took over all these posts from the
29:34
National Guard.
29:35
And there was all kinds of, you know,
29:41
gangbangers driving around, you know.
29:43
So it wasn't, it was really just,
29:48
they were having a free-for-all since they
29:49
knew they had overwhelmed the cops and the
29:52
cops were all...
29:54
Uh, so the, these, the gang,
29:56
the gangs were just roving around in their
29:58
vehicles, you know, like,
29:59
like cruising really.
30:00
Yeah.
30:00
Um, but, uh, um, but no one yet,
30:04
no one came, you know,
30:05
got out and started coming near us or
30:07
anything like that.
30:08
Oh, wow.
30:10
But we were standing there with a band
30:11
that's attached though, too.
30:14
Oh, that was a funny, that was funny.
30:15
So, uh, I get a call, I'm the,
30:18
you know, I'm a platoon sergeant and, uh,
30:21
So I get a call from one of
30:23
my Marines or the corporals,
30:24
the corporal of the guard.
30:26
And there's this National Guard Lieutenant
30:31
ordering my Marine to take the bayonet
30:34
off.
30:34
They were like,
30:36
we don't listen to anybody outside the
30:38
chain of command, you know?
30:39
And he told them that.
30:41
And then the corporal of the guard told
30:42
him that.
30:44
And then,
30:44
so I get there and I explained to
30:46
him,
30:46
you do know what the general orders are,
30:48
right?
30:49
You know, officers,
30:51
noncommissioned officers of the Guard
30:53
only.
30:54
We cannot take any order about, you know,
30:59
Guard or security from anybody except our
31:02
chain of command.
31:04
You know,
31:04
your National Guard general could come in
31:06
here and tell him,
31:07
and it ain't going to happen.
31:08
You know,
31:09
because the lieutenant just couldn't
31:12
understand him.
31:14
Well, don't make your calls.
31:16
It's not going to happen.
31:16
The Marine's not taking that bayonet off
31:19
until my platoon commander or company
31:21
commander tells me to take it off.
31:23
Right.
31:24
Yeah.
31:26
Now that's obeying your orders right
31:27
there.
31:28
Oh yeah.
31:29
Yeah.
31:30
That's good.
31:31
It's good stuff.
31:33
No way.
31:36
The first LAR was committed by JF Kelly
31:39
at the time too.
31:41
By who?
31:42
John Kelly.
31:43
Oh, really?
31:45
Yeah.
31:45
Oh, I didn't know that.
31:46
Yep.
31:46
Wow.
31:48
And wasn't it the reason the Marines went
31:54
in was because the governor at the time,
31:56
wasn't he an old Marine?
31:58
They called Reagan directly?
31:59
No, pushed directly.
32:02
Pete Wilson,
32:03
if that was the governor at the time,
32:05
was a Marine.
32:06
That's why he called him in.
32:08
Federalized him.
32:09
He went from San Diego's mayor to the
32:10
governor.
32:11
Yep.
32:11
Huh.
32:14
He said, send them.
32:17
Fifteen hundred Marines with one mouth.
32:20
Wild.
32:21
Yep.
32:25
Now, Mark,
32:26
you were telling us a little bit ago
32:27
that a Marine was lost at sea.
32:29
Yeah, I get these.
32:32
I get this notice on the Facebook that
32:34
submarine got lost out off of the USS
32:37
Anchorage when they're doing workups off
32:39
the coast here.
32:43
Geez.
32:43
And no other info about it.
32:45
You know,
32:45
if they think he jumped or if they
32:49
don't know what happened.
32:54
Yeah.
32:55
I don't think a lot of people realize
32:57
how often that happens either.
33:01
It does.
33:02
I mean, well,
33:04
I guess in comparison to how many people
33:06
are on a ship and how often ships
33:08
are out, I guess it's very small.
33:11
Related, right?
33:12
But it does happen quite a bit.
33:13
Percentage-wise, it would be very,
33:15
very small.
33:16
Yeah.
33:18
But frequency, it's quite often.
33:22
How often would you say that comes about?
33:30
Two-thirds of my Mews had somebody go over
33:31
the side.
33:33
No kidding.
33:35
Three Mews, thirty-first and two-elevens.
33:38
and uh second eleven we lost a kid
33:41
in between guam and hawaii i think it
33:42
was oh and i was lost at sea
33:50
then we also i mean i know it's
33:52
happened more than once because you hear
33:54
about about once every couple years
33:56
something's lost at sea wasn't it that kid
33:59
who got jet washed over the side of
34:00
one of the carriers drifted and did all
34:02
like the records the mcquists
34:06
tricks and they pick them up and all
34:07
that oh yeah whole thing so that was
34:13
they use that all the time pay attention
34:15
to this it might save your life i'm
34:16
like okay he had to undo his boots
34:24
then he had to take his trousers off
34:26
that's not a easy thing to do in
34:27
the water uh and then yeah he's probably
34:31
coveralls too which is even wilder
34:34
I wonder, would coveralls do that?
34:35
Would it hold a hair like that?
34:39
Well, you'd have to go,
34:41
if you got out of coveralls,
34:42
you're basically buck naked when you're
34:47
freaking doing this.
34:48
True.
34:51
No matter what month of the deployment
34:54
you're on, yeah,
34:54
you might be running commando for a while.
35:02
yeah yeah it's also one thing if you're
35:04
in a pool doing that and if you're
35:07
in the ocean i mean it's that's completely
35:10
different circumstances right there well
35:13
with the ocean it's more buoyant however
35:15
you got the waves slapping you in the
35:16
face taking your you know sucking in water
35:19
all the time when you're trying to breathe
35:21
yeah there's always that uh you've been in
35:25
one emotion you've been in one ocean
35:27
that's the way i always thought about it
35:28
because the indian was a lot different
35:30
than the pacific
35:32
there are days those look like glass and
35:34
other days right it looked like i was
35:36
staring up at a skyscraper and that was
35:37
that and it's warm in the indian ocean
35:39
yep what's the worst sea conditions that
35:43
you had while you were out dude i
35:47
was up near alaska that was the worst
35:50
i was on the lst ooh baby that
35:56
was brutal
35:59
But off the coast of Australia was really
36:01
bad in, uh, uh, we actually, uh, uh,
36:08
the, uh, the boat company lost him,
36:10
lost a Marine show water Bay.
36:13
I'm sure you probably been heard about
36:15
that in training,
36:16
just the little raid package,
36:18
the shore water Bay incident.
36:21
in australia i didn't hear about that
36:22
incident but we had a kid uh lima
36:24
three seven walked off the side of the
36:27
new orleans they brought it back for that
36:29
or ninety six ninety seven rip leaping
36:33
lima three seven had enough it just walked
36:35
off the flight deck fought the star
36:37
swimmer fought the star swimmer he's like
36:41
i'm done he just wanted he wanted to
36:43
end it and uh so the star swimmer
36:46
goes out and they uh
36:48
he takes a swing at the star swimmer
36:50
and the stars were like i've had enough
36:51
of this so he dolphins down comes up
36:53
like a porpoise knocks him out and drags
36:55
him back like yeah but i mean yeah
37:03
three seven i mean they were not having
37:06
a great time we're going down for tandem
37:08
thrust in but yeah but we were hitting
37:11
a tropical storm justin they brought the
37:14
very first video so god bless your simple
37:16
souls but
37:18
the workups on a thirty first were just
37:21
ragged and they brought back the bellow
37:24
wood was in dock so they bring the
37:26
new orleans over and it's tiger straight
37:27
from the rust because that thing should
37:29
have been yarded a long time ago they
37:32
retired it but they brought it out balls
37:33
to bring it back to us and
37:36
They kept a Lima three,
37:38
seven in the holds the entire time.
37:40
Cause they're continuous flight ops to get
37:42
them sorted before we hit the exercise.
37:45
And now those guys were miserable,
37:47
almost two, three weeks,
37:49
just
37:50
in prison except it was not great so
37:55
this kid had enough he's just like i'm
37:56
done you know especially take a battalion
37:59
that's not done a lot of mu ops
38:02
you know uh and then they put them
38:04
over the first and want to do like
38:06
you said they're running them through that
38:08
uh mu soccer uh qualification
38:11
it is while they're on it yeah yeah
38:16
it's uh it's still don't do the
38:18
qualification in you know actually right
38:19
after end of uh right after the la
38:23
riots we three one we flew over to
38:26
uh okinawa and we're the first blt for
38:28
the third first music sorry but we but
38:32
we were but we were music
38:36
So it made a difference, you know,
38:37
when you're taking a,
38:38
because that's when the first Marines were
38:40
the only ones on the West Coast doing
38:41
the MEU.
38:42
And so they're already trained.
38:46
They're already trained,
38:46
so they just got to go work with
38:49
the thirty-first MEU headquarters to,
38:53
you know, get set up.
38:54
But that's why you have to fight on
38:55
a MEU, though,
38:55
because you got to integrate with the ship
38:58
and the Fibron staff, too.
38:59
That's always the biggest problem.
39:02
right it was the biggest biggest
39:04
opportunity i'm saying it wrong i'm
39:06
working on your book right now okay so
39:12
i know each each fibron does its thing
39:14
its own way each ship has its own
39:17
personality that's true it is like when
39:20
you're leaving from uh san diego on a
39:22
mew you know you get and you're doing
39:25
those workups you get a good navy marine
39:26
team usually built up
39:29
before you take off but thirty first meal
39:31
like i said you get what you get
39:33
and there's no that's weird through it so
39:38
every six months there is no stand down
39:41
there is no like six month rip where
39:42
you just get a break and that's why
39:43
the bella wood just got broken because it
39:45
was at sea so much right but the
39:48
fort mchenry there was a bows and riley
39:50
and he was over there forever
39:53
he was a warrant officer boson maker and
39:58
the guy was amazing he just spent all
40:00
his time in japan just continuously at sea
40:02
at sea at sea at sea i forget
40:04
how many years he said he'd been underway
40:07
but it was in the decades crazy but
40:10
i mean the guy he ran that he
40:13
was like the unofficial
40:15
he just ran it oh yeah they ran
40:18
like they got those chiefs and those you
40:20
know those certain people that just they
40:22
ran it they they know the ship so
40:24
well lsds but you take a big boat
40:31
or a big ship out of rotation like
40:32
the bella wood and you bring in lph
40:35
guys right ready for an lph like this
40:37
is not they were not having it but
40:40
the workups were always like on schwab or
40:43
hansen or up north too
40:45
So we were doing a Neo right in
40:47
front of my barracks at Schwab.
40:49
I was like,
40:49
I'm just going to stop my rumor across
40:51
and grab a soda because I'm kind of
40:55
thirsty.
40:55
We were guarding the front gate of Camp
40:57
Schwab.
40:58
It was like
41:01
One of the fraction units from Twin Iron
41:03
Palms was up there throwing grapefruits at
41:05
us and just beating the shit out of
41:06
each other.
41:08
I was in the turret just staring through
41:10
the sights, spotting these troublemakers.
41:13
Then behind me and my fiancee,
41:15
now my wife,
41:16
was one of the evacuees because she was
41:18
out of Fatima and she was part of
41:19
the exercise.
41:20
The guys behind me, the whole platoon,
41:22
we all knew shit.
41:24
Like, dude, your,
41:26
your fiance is back there.
41:28
And like, what?
41:29
No, I'm busy, man.
41:30
I gotta be,
41:31
gotta find the grapefruit doors.
41:33
But she jumped out of fifty three and
41:36
they evacuated her.
41:37
She was part of the exercise.
41:39
So it's wild.
41:42
But now, I mean,
41:43
workups in Okinawa are just a mess.
41:49
And then you had to do the right
41:49
conditions to like White Beach.
41:52
White Beach is just a mess to you.
41:57
But there was one day we took off
41:59
and the states didn't hit it right.
42:01
And so we took off in the morning
42:03
from the Fort McHenry and we couldn't get
42:07
the beach because the surf state was
42:09
wrong.
42:09
So they didn't want to bring us back
42:11
to the Fort McHenry.
42:12
So we just bobbed out there.
42:14
And then one of the radar was pretty
42:15
bad.
42:16
No way.
42:18
we left at like eight zero eight in
42:20
the morning and we landed on the german
42:23
town at twenty hundred that night so we're
42:26
on inside an lav on an lcac for
42:29
twelve hours just bobbing like just
42:33
hanging out should we just go like no
42:37
but we sank the second duck w trying
42:40
to get in so it capsized turned or
42:43
it
42:44
that turn went under it just never came
42:47
back yeah the crew got off but that
42:50
was you rats yeah you got a ship
42:59
you put the us marinas you put the
43:00
marines back in that title that was wild
43:09
how many breeds did you know couldn't swim
43:11
got put on the view too that was
43:12
always enlightening to me
43:17
Well, you know, with the Mew,
43:19
that's when we're doing the helo dunker
43:21
and the, you know, you go out five,
43:26
six hundred meters and dump them all off
43:28
and you got to link back up,
43:29
you know,
43:30
with K-Pox on and then kick back in.
43:35
Just to get everybody, like I said,
43:38
if you can swim or not,
43:39
you got to get used to the water.
43:40
That's true.
43:41
You got to be able to trust your
43:42
flotation device.
43:45
There's only one way to get better at
43:46
it.
43:47
has to do it well you're a swim
43:49
guy you know how many how many marines
43:51
couldn't swim was like it's in the title
43:52
oh my god they're not hiding this yeah
43:53
oh yeah in every i would say in
43:59
every company that came through i would
44:01
say there's probably about ten to twenty
44:04
uh that couldn't pass and we had to
44:07
work like sit there and work with like
44:09
literally work with them to get them to
44:10
pass most people you can just tell them
44:12
what to do and they'll do it um
44:13
yeah but
44:18
There's a lot of you.
44:20
There's a couple of myself.
44:21
I was like,
44:21
what do you mean you can't swim?
44:23
You're on a view, bro.
44:24
It's like saying you're allergic to sand
44:27
and being stationed in the desert.
44:28
This isn't going to work out.
44:33
What's going on here?
44:34
I don't like trees.
44:35
Send that kid to Lejeune.
44:37
What?
44:37
No.
44:38
Stop it.
44:41
What was that?
44:42
Alien Nation where the guy was like,
44:43
was it cops?
44:46
It was a detective show.
44:49
Salt water was like acid for these aliens.
44:53
That's the way this kid reacted to
44:55
swimming.
44:56
It looked like he was about to just
44:58
drop into a vat of acid.
45:01
The cat, it's all messed up.
45:02
His hair is all screwed up.
45:03
He's just shaking.
45:05
This kid is not going to make it,
45:06
bro.
45:07
Wow.
45:12
That's wildness.
45:16
That's how it worked.
45:22
Let's see.
45:26
Well, we got this raffle going on.
45:29
It's pretty cool.
45:31
Have you guys taken a look at the
45:35
actual bag itself, like looked it up?
45:37
Mm-hmm.
45:38
It's a pretty sweet bag, man.
45:40
It's a flight bag.
45:43
Man, it's bad.
45:44
Bad to the bone.
45:45
Pretty detailed.
45:47
Yeah.
45:47
Yeah.
45:48
They, they, uh,
45:49
I'm excited that Dave's going to come on
45:51
here.
45:51
The, the guy that's founded it, um,
45:54
still running it, but, uh, yeah,
45:57
I'm excited for him to come on here
45:58
to talk about all the bags and stuff.
46:00
And yeah, it's a pretty cool deal.
46:03
Now I'll show it,
46:04
throw it up there again.
46:06
look at that look at that thing right
46:07
there man that's a good looking bag right
46:09
y'all there's no zippers nothing like that
46:13
so you're not going to get a zipper
46:14
to break uh these do also do have
46:18
if i'm not mistaken a lifetime warranty so
46:20
anything happens to it gets damaged
46:22
somehow you can send it back they'll
46:24
either repair it or either get you a
46:25
new one so that's pretty cool you don't
46:30
see that very often anymore
46:34
The only other place that I've seen
46:38
lifetime warranty like that where they'll
46:40
just replace it is fly fishing rods.
46:46
Just about every outfitter that has them
46:50
will actually replace them for free if
46:52
they get messed up.
46:58
That's a confidence right there that your
47:00
shit is not going to break.
47:02
Nobody's going to hook that massive trout.
47:05
It's not that.
47:06
You're going to snap it because you buried
47:08
it into the ground and snapped the tip
47:10
off or you closed it in your door
47:13
on accident and slammed it in your trunk.
47:19
Nothing ever happens.
47:22
It's very rare that they're going to break
47:24
on trying to catch a fish,
47:26
like actually get a fish.
47:30
I mean, I guess it will, but
47:33
I've never done it.
47:36
I have broken many a rod,
47:38
many different ways.
47:39
Yeah,
47:43
probably a majority of those were in your
47:44
truck tailgate.
47:47
Well, I want to say majority, but yeah,
47:48
a good portion of them were.
47:50
Absolutely.
47:51
Yeah, my cut worker, Al,
47:56
he keeps three or four fishing poles in
47:58
the back bed of the truck.
48:01
And they're back there, rain shine,
48:02
they're getting poured on,
48:03
everything else.
48:04
And he's like, oh yeah,
48:05
I bought a new rod.
48:07
And I was like, oh yeah,
48:08
and he showed it to me.
48:10
He goes, yeah, it's a nice one there.
48:11
I paid a hundred and eighty bucks for
48:12
it.
48:12
I was like, okay.
48:14
You just leave it laying in the bed
48:15
of the truck.
48:16
Okay.
48:17
So he's sitting there,
48:18
he puts the tailgate down.
48:19
And Al's a large guy.
48:20
So sometimes it's hard for him to,
48:23
he just picks the tailgate up and slams
48:25
it.
48:25
And as soon as he, I said, Al,
48:27
stop.
48:29
Then he just slams the tailgate.
48:31
He goes, what?
48:32
I said, look,
48:34
all four rods are sticking out the corner
48:35
of the tailgate.
48:36
That brand new Roddy bar.
48:37
I thought he was mad.
48:39
I was like,
48:42
I don't know why you spent that kind
48:44
of money.
48:44
You could get a Walmart,
48:45
buy yourself a forty dollar rod at that
48:47
point.
48:47
You're going to bust it.
48:48
You're going to bust it.
48:49
The twenty dollar rods,
48:50
you're not getting them fixed or repaired
48:54
or sent to you.
48:55
There was no fix or repair in this
48:56
one.
48:59
even if it was repairable it actually got
49:01
it out of there it didn't it wasn't
49:03
repairable after he was done with it so
49:05
yeah it's like ron didn't do anything to
49:09
you you're the one that did it why
49:10
are you getting mad at it oh who's
49:14
the oh man there's a old fisherman uh
49:18
that has bloopers all the time bill dance
49:22
or what's his name no not oh yeah
49:24
yeah yeah
49:28
He went to put the battery in it,
49:30
swung it, and took it with him,
49:32
and he flies off the side of the
49:34
dock.
49:39
He's got some funny clips.
49:41
If you haven't seen some of those,
49:42
you need to just type in Bill Dance
49:44
bloopers, and you're going to get a laugh,
49:47
that's for sure.
49:49
I'll sit there, crack up laughing.
49:50
I'll watch it all day long.
49:53
What was one of them that was funny?
49:54
I think he was
49:56
He was one, they're in some river,
49:59
but they hit a real low spot, shallow,
50:02
and there was a tree.
50:05
They're like, oh, we can get enough,
50:06
we can jump and get enough speed.
50:09
And he goes,
50:10
guy was sitting in the front, man,
50:11
he nailed that, and that dude went flying.
50:15
Like he was doing endos over the hill.
50:18
He's like, he skips over,
50:20
didn't even realize he flew out.
50:23
He looks over and he's waving his arms
50:25
and he's like,
50:25
what the hell are you doing out there?
50:31
Oh, man.
50:32
I like the one where he's fishing,
50:35
but a snake falls on him.
50:38
He flips out.
50:39
Oh, my God.
50:42
I would flip out too, though.
50:44
Snake fell on me.
50:46
I'm not a fan.
50:48
Not a fan.
50:49
I hate snakes.
50:53
that's just nope that's uh not my party
51:02
well um i live in a part of
51:04
the country where snakes don't exist
51:06
except for like garter snakes i'm good
51:07
with this they don't ever make something
51:11
well i guess it gets really cold maybe
51:12
some bowls all right the wild part about
51:15
this day is you cross the river and
51:17
the soil changes so much that snakes will
51:20
thrive out there but on our side of
51:22
the state
51:23
They don't.
51:24
Really?
51:24
They can't get in the dens.
51:25
They freeze.
51:25
It's too cold for them.
51:27
But thank you.
51:29
I'll take my winners.
51:30
That's interesting.
51:33
How many snakes are in Iowa?
51:36
You guys don't have snakes either.
51:38
Yeah.
51:38
Like I said, garter snakes, bull snakes,
51:40
shit like that.
51:41
Rattlesnakes with their dens?
51:44
Over by the Mississippi River,
51:45
there'll be timber rattlers.
51:47
Well, that's gross.
51:47
You should give that back to Lake
51:49
Mississippi then.
51:51
Give it back to them.
51:54
Tell them to swim down.
51:57
Nope.
51:57
We don't have those snakes.
51:58
I'm happy about that.
52:02
Nope.
52:03
Pigs?
52:04
Too cold for pigs.
52:05
Except for those... Mike,
52:08
how many pigs you got out there?
52:11
Wild hogs?
52:12
Yes.
52:13
Yeah, they're
52:15
everywhere they're bad enough here that
52:17
there's literally there's one kind there's
52:18
several of them in this area they got
52:21
four-wheel drive jacked up uh vans and
52:24
it's called uh hog patrol and hog swap
52:29
and they go out with night vision and
52:35
perfect i am down with that now and
52:38
they don't have to you got them out
52:39
there too right oh yeah and here when
52:41
they go out and they shoot them they
52:43
don't have to do it they just leave
52:44
them there
52:45
They don't have to take them anywhere.
52:47
Just bang, shoot them.
52:48
They're dead.
52:49
You'll see them here.
52:50
You'll be driving down the road and
52:51
they'll be like a pile of hogs just
52:52
laying on the side of the road that
52:53
somebody just wasted and just piled them
52:56
up.
52:57
And it's like, all right.
52:59
Oh yeah, they do.
53:02
Well, a lot of them here though,
53:04
what they will do is, yeah.
53:07
What's that, Jess?
53:08
You don't eat them.
53:09
They taste like shit.
53:11
A lot of these guys down here do.
53:12
They have those big round pans.
53:14
Those drop pans.
53:16
Yeah.
53:16
And they can sit there and watch them
53:18
on camera at night and they'll come in
53:20
and they'll be, you know,
53:22
sows and piglets and all that stuff.
53:24
And they'll wait until they can get as
53:25
many as possible.
53:26
They've got a corn feeder there.
53:27
So they're all just picking down.
53:29
Yeah.
53:29
And they'll drop, they'll drop it,
53:31
drop it.
53:31
And they'll leave those hogs in there for
53:33
a month and a half, two months.
53:35
Yeah.
53:35
Well that too,
53:38
but to feed them and they're,
53:39
they put them on corn and it does
53:41
help the taste a little bit.
53:43
so that corn feed them.
53:44
But any of, even we had,
53:46
it was one of our,
53:47
just several years ago,
53:48
one of Kelly's patients, her husband,
53:53
he's one of these groups that goes out
53:55
and shoot hogs.
53:55
And he literally, when he went home,
53:58
he came back with like two coolers full
54:00
of hog meat, like hog.
54:02
And he goes, here, here's some hog,
54:04
take it.
54:05
He said,
54:05
but make sure you soak it in pineapple
54:06
juice and oranges for at least a week.
54:10
Yeah, to make it break all down.
54:12
Yeah.
54:12
Yeah, get that.
54:14
Because it's real.
54:15
I mean, it's so strong and gamey.
54:18
When you hear something like wild turkey
54:21
compared to a turkey you buy has a
54:24
gamey taste or like goose or something,
54:26
you taste a hog like that, man,
54:28
it's like you're eating frickin'
54:31
It literally tastes like manure if you
54:34
could taste it.
54:35
It's so strong and it stinks.
54:38
Really?
54:39
It's like boiled asshole.
54:41
They'll just soak them in pineapple juice
54:43
and orange juice.
54:45
Wow.
54:46
There's no reason whatsoever to eat those
54:48
things.
54:48
No greed.
54:51
Well,
54:51
if you didn't have anything else to eat,
54:53
I could see it.
54:53
But the big thing down here is once
54:56
you get hogs in an area,
54:58
they'll destroy that whole entire area.
55:00
Oh, yeah.
55:01
All kinds of stuff.
55:04
So some jack wagon up in Canada started
55:07
crossbreeding like the Polish boars and
55:10
they're coming south now.
55:12
So we're in the middle.
55:16
so they're coming across north dakota and
55:17
they think these things will be able to
55:18
withstand the cold now because that used
55:20
to somebody did that on purpose i think
55:23
they tried to do something every once we
55:28
see an elk farm out here too you
55:30
see like a bunch of elk you see
55:31
like the eight nine foot fences you're
55:33
like okay they have something crazy in
55:35
there then you see like this giant bull
55:36
elk come like wandering out like they're
55:39
raising them for like specialty things
55:41
here
55:42
Somebody's trying to do that with those
55:43
boars that they got out and they crossbred
55:46
over and now we've got the white walkers
55:49
of the great white north coming down.
55:54
What happened in West Virginia?
55:55
There was a guy probably forty, fifty,
55:59
forty years ago did that.
56:00
He brought like Russian boars and stuff.
56:02
That bullshit right there.
56:04
Yeah, and he, because my dad actually,
56:06
I was in the Marine Corps,
56:07
but my dad went down there.
56:08
One of the guys, good friend of his,
56:10
they would go down there,
56:11
but
56:11
They, you know,
56:12
you paid to go hunt them basically.
56:13
And they're like, but I mean,
56:16
my dad shot one with a thirty hair
56:18
contender handgun,
56:19
hit it dead center in the head and
56:23
just stood there and shook its head like
56:26
that and kept running.
56:28
And it was coming down one side of
56:30
the hill into a valley coming up the
56:32
other side.
56:32
He hit it, you know,
56:34
from where he was standing,
56:34
where he hit it wasn't but fifty yards.
56:37
But it had to go down to come
56:38
right back up.
56:39
And he said that thing was in four-wheel
56:40
drive trying to get up the other side
56:41
to them.
56:43
You know, it was a single shot,
56:44
so he popped open it,
56:45
stuck another one in,
56:46
hit it again in the head.
56:48
Still didn't do anything.
56:50
The other guy was actually the guy that
56:53
owned the place.
56:54
He had a .三百枚 and popped it.
56:57
And he said it just plowed in the
57:00
ground like a bulldozer.
57:01
But, I mean, it had tusks on it.
57:04
You know, they were like that long.
57:05
It's like, good Lord.
57:10
But he did that.
57:10
I know they had an issue with that.
57:12
A bunch of them got out.
57:13
They got loose.
57:14
Yeah, I'm not down with any of that.
57:22
I think we'll call this one a night
57:24
here,
57:25
and we'll just jump into our closing
57:28
sequence here.
57:29
We'll call this Words of Wisdom.
57:39
All right,
57:40
we're going to start out with a book
57:41
report.
57:42
Jess, what do you got for us, man?
57:44
I'm reading two books right now.
57:45
One's called The Mailman and the other
57:47
one's called Validated Leadership.
57:50
So it's giving me a heads up.
57:54
Is it this one?
57:55
This book?
57:56
Exactly that one.
57:58
It must be a bestseller.
57:59
It is a bestseller.
58:01
On this podcast it is.
58:06
And only on this podcast.
58:09
I think you're selling yourself short
58:11
there.
58:13
So I was with my daughter,
58:18
Barnes & Noble, walking in the door.
58:20
And I was like, this book,
58:21
it's just kind of like you said,
58:22
Barnes & Noble pig.
58:24
Mostly walk by those things all the time.
58:26
But this one caught my eye.
58:27
It's called The Mailman.
58:29
And it is.
58:30
There it goes.
58:34
All right.
58:37
so he's one of the writers from iowa
58:40
and if you ever heard of like the
58:41
iowa's writer college you know mark
58:43
probably has iowa's uh university of iowa
58:47
has one of the best writing schools in
58:48
america you will go there and they will
58:51
some of the best writers come out of
58:53
that college interesting university but so
58:56
the author was
58:59
he was a consumer strategist for twenty
59:01
years and during covid he held that go
59:05
got sick and uh he was fifty had
59:08
had cancer but he had health insurance
59:10
fast so he got a job at the
59:11
post office and he was working in
59:13
Appalachia as a postman and he's telling
59:16
the stories in this are just fanatically
59:18
funny so
59:21
it's just a guy delivering mail he kind
59:22
of find a job he kind of enjoyed
59:24
he's going up and down the hollers and
59:27
yeah it's during coven so wow it's just
59:30
uh interesting read it's march the twenty
59:32
and twenty he'll let go but corporate job
59:35
to delivering mail but yeah i mean the
59:38
stories in here are just like that is
59:40
funny so that's awesome he's got a
59:43
left-hand drive hanging out the side so
59:45
he's like long-arming across the entire
59:47
thing trying to deliver packages out in
59:49
the middle of nowhere
59:50
full speed through like and you know mail
59:53
delivery vehicles are some of the best
59:54
maintained best things you've ever seen
59:57
especially out in the sticks so i'm just
1:00:00
hoping that the whole thing the whole
1:00:02
suspension didn't drop out on my middle of
1:00:04
nowhere with no cell phone reception but i
1:00:06
mean it's it's it's interesting bug so
1:00:09
it's one of those i give it a
1:00:10
whirl it's fun
1:00:12
Every once in a while,
1:00:13
you kind of need like a little reminder
1:00:14
like, yeah,
1:00:15
there's something besides corporate life.
1:00:17
You can get away from the desk and
1:00:18
go reset, touch grass, do your thing.
1:00:22
That's right.
1:00:24
I like it.
1:00:27
Well,
1:00:28
we're going to have to do a book
1:00:29
review on a certain book that I know.
1:00:32
It's called Validated Leadership,
1:00:33
in case anybody is wondering.
1:00:36
I think you can get it on Amazon.
1:00:38
On the Amazon website.
1:00:41
Validated leadership trusted,
1:00:43
no tested proven and trusted.
1:00:45
I said it backwards, but, uh,
1:00:48
all right with that, Mike,
1:00:50
what do you got for us?
1:00:53
Hey,
1:00:54
somebody was supposed to say that's
1:00:55
validated leadership.
1:00:56
You missed it.
1:01:00
Uh, wisdom,
1:01:02
wisdom consists of the anticipation of
1:01:04
consequences.
1:01:06
Hmm.
1:01:08
Okay.
1:01:09
Yeah, I can see that.
1:01:13
All right, all right.
1:01:14
I like the way it is.
1:01:15
The one I had, I lost,
1:01:16
so I couldn't find it.
1:01:17
Yeah, well, that one was good.
1:01:21
I liked it.
1:01:23
I liked it a lot.
1:01:25
Sergeant Major's getting serious looking
1:01:26
now.
1:01:27
I know.
1:01:28
He's getting that look in his eye.
1:01:30
We all know what that look means.
1:01:32
We all know.
1:01:32
We all know.
1:01:42
Bringing up the rear with Sergeant Major
1:01:44
Mark O'Loughlin.
1:01:46
That's right.
1:01:48
He's going to bring it with a humdinger.
1:01:51
So just remember everyone,
1:01:53
it is okay to try and then fail,
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but it's never okay to fail to try.
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Interesting.
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I like it.
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I like it.
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That's good.
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That's good, man.
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Always bringing it.
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Always bringing it.
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I love it.
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Well, shoot, fellas.
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Thanks.
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That'll be in the next book.
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That'll be in the next book.
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But you have to know that there's a
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book out now.
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Validated leadership.
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I don't know if you can see that.
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Validated leadership.
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It's my guy.
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I know that he has a lot of
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humdingers.
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So just in case anybody's wondering out
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there, Amazon, look it up.
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Seems to be popular.
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Look at there.
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Look at there.
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Mike, say it, man.
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Say it.
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Validated leadership.
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I heard you can find it on Amazon.
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The next book is going to be
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Humdingers.
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Humdingers.
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I think invalidated leadership should be
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funny.
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It should be the comical relief to this
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one.
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Oh, that could be pretty good.
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I've been getting a bunch of emails from
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Marines that I used to serve with.
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And they're like, hey,
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did you put in there about this or
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put in there about that?
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I go, no, but send me a clip.
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Send me an email with all the story
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that you're talking about so I can put
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it all together.
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Yeah.
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that'd be good i i won't name the
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company weapons two four but we got lost
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on the way to the land of course
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in fuji like this is just the most
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amazing thing i just it will never leave
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my mind january of nineteen ninety seven
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getting lost on the way to the land
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of course on the way to the way
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to the land of course yes well it's
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a good thing they were going there to
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get squared away you know
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Yeah, except he didn't take the course.
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Naval Academy grad.
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This will not be named.
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That's good stuff.
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All right.
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Well, with that, guys, thanks.
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Truly appreciate it.
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To everybody out there,
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if you're struggling, need help,
1:04:11
anything like that,
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don't forget the VA does have some good
1:04:13
resources.
1:04:14
You can always dial nine eight eight.
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Press option one.
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You always text.
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That's the wrong one.
1:04:20
You can always text.
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I'm not on it today.
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Eight, three, eight, two, five, five,
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or go to veteranscrisisline.net.
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Click on that chat icon.
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Any of those options will put you in
1:04:30
contact with somebody that can help you
1:04:31
out.
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And remember,
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one veteran life loss is one too many.
1:04:33
I care about you.
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The crew cares about you.
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The whole veteran community cares about
1:04:36
you.
1:04:36
So please reach out for help.
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And if you're out there,
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you're not struggling,
1:04:38
reach out to the buddies you served with.
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Ask them how they're doing.
1:04:40
And if they need that helping hand,
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please, please give it to them.
1:04:45
All right, fellas, one last time.
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You guys rock.
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I don't care what anybody says about you.
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To everybody out there, stay motivated.
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Change your thoughts.