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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, May 6 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, May six. This is Jackuars Happy Hour,
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Always presented Hi Duval Motor Company and now
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Speaker 1: future TV game show host. Who is j P. Shad
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Speaker 1: Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour. My name is j P. Shadrick.
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Speaker 1: Welcome in. We've got a big show today. We've got
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Speaker 1: a lot on the plate today. In fact, we'll go
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Speaker 1: through the draft, the review of the Jaguars draft picks
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Speaker 1: coming up. Jeff Logerman has been digging into the tape.
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Speaker 1: We'll get his thoughts of the Laurence et N picks
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Speaker 1: of course in the first round, and a few others
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Speaker 1: for the Jags. Will dissect those and what now it
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Speaker 1: tied in. We'll touch on what's going to happen at
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Speaker 1: that position, if anything moving ahead. That's one hole that
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Speaker 1: Meyer said they still have to do a little work
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Speaker 1: on after the draft. And we'll go around the National
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Speaker 1: Football League, including some quarterback controversy in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
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Speaker 1: Jeff Lockman with us. Good afternoon, Jeff, Good afternoon, Jp.
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Speaker 1: I every time you say we've got a really big show,
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Speaker 1: really big, really about a size twelve and so I
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Speaker 1: might be a little old school like Joe when you
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Speaker 1: hear that phrase, what do you think of Ed Sullivan? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: got a really big shows, really big show, really big,
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Speaker 1: really big. We don't have the Beatles today, but you
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Speaker 1: know it's whatever. It's big. We got Trevor Lawrence, though,
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Speaker 1: I love to get to and you've been watching the tape.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to some of the deeper guys. Well
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Speaker 1: let me say this, JP, But first off, I've watched
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Speaker 1: the tape plenty on Trevor Lawrence prior to the draft,
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Speaker 1: and then and then watched a bunch of it after
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Speaker 1: the draft as well. And then a lot of the
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Speaker 1: draft picks was able. You know, once you start giving
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Speaker 1: you got three hundred prospects, you're not gonna watch the
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Speaker 1: film on all of them. You just there's only so
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Speaker 1: many hours in the day on But once the draft happens,
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Speaker 1: you know, then you jump onto the tape on these
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Speaker 1: picks that the Jaguars got. And so, yeah, well we'll
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Speaker 1: take a look at all of them, any of them
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Speaker 1: that you want. I got all the way as far
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Speaker 1: down as the UH draft pick in the fourth round,
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Speaker 1: Jordan's Smith. So I got some round four so far
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Speaker 1: on the film, two guys left, I've only got a
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Speaker 1: few left. Yeah, it's beautiful, and then maybe a couple
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Speaker 1: of undrafted guy. I will take a look at some
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Speaker 1: of the undrafted guys because I can tell you that
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Speaker 1: in years past that's some of the most interesting tape
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Speaker 1: that you'll actually look at and that you'll see a
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Speaker 1: guy and you go, hey, you know, when we get
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Speaker 1: the training camp, take a look at this guy, or
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Speaker 1: keep an eye on this guy. So we'll do all
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Speaker 1: that coming up. Let's start though with Trevor Lawrence. Of course, uh,
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Speaker 1: he seemed to be as advertised. I don't think that
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Speaker 1: was a shock to anybody when he showed up in
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Speaker 1: the building on Friday for his press conference and the
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Speaker 1: tour around here to meet the coaching He already knew
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Speaker 1: the coaching staff, but meet everybody in the building and
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Speaker 1: get his jersey and everything going on the press conference
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Speaker 1: is um but he was obviously impressive. Lugs to me,
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Speaker 1: I mean, polished, smooth, everything that we really we had
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Speaker 1: really heard about the guy came through. Who's through that
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Speaker 1: press conference in folks, I think I think the maturity
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Speaker 1: really shows. And if you talk about having a guy
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Speaker 1: that's that's ready made to handle the spotlight, to handle
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Speaker 1: the pressures of being the first overall pick. I don't
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Speaker 1: even know if if Andrew luck or Peyton Manning was
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Speaker 1: as polished and as prepared as Trevor Lawrence seems to be.
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Speaker 1: Peyton was pretty sharp, Yeah, Payte's pretty sharp. Payton was
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Speaker 1: sharp because he was in that high Peyton didn't win
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Speaker 1: as many games as Trevor Lawrence. Um so, but uh,
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Speaker 1: I couldn't beat Florida either. Here's the great love exactly.
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Speaker 1: But here's the great thing. There's nothing that we've seen,
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Speaker 1: and certainly nothing that I've seen of Trevor Lawrence that
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Speaker 1: I haven't liked yet. I mean, it's just everything he
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Speaker 1: seems to impress me more and and and look, I
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Speaker 1: understand where he's coming from. I understand that he's still
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Speaker 1: a young guy, how he's handled himself up to this point,
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Speaker 1: how he continues to handle some of the things that
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Speaker 1: he's faced up, you know, leading up to the draft,
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Speaker 1: During the draft, after the draft, he's just he's just polished.
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Speaker 1: And I think that makes me more excited than just
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Speaker 1: the raw physical talent, which continues to amaze me. And
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Speaker 1: you go back and you watch more tape after the draft,
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Speaker 1: and and this week I was able to watch every
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Speaker 1: career touchdown pass that he threw. And we're actually it's
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Speaker 1: a lot. It's time. We're actually gonna be doing a
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Speaker 1: couple of film segments coming up on Jaguars dot Com,
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Speaker 1: so a little cheap plug there where we're gonna be
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Speaker 1: looking at his arm and we're gonna be looking at
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Speaker 1: his legs and his arm and what the things do
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Speaker 1: to complement each other. But but it's just it's just
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Speaker 1: fun to watch him because the more you watch him,
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Speaker 1: the more you like And that's it's not very often
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Speaker 1: that that happens with most prospects. Typically, when you get
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Speaker 1: to a certain point on some guys, the over analysis
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Speaker 1: tends to kind of you start to nitpick a little
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Speaker 1: bit and you start to find flaws that you make
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Speaker 1: bigger than they actually are. And with Trevor Lawrence, it's
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Speaker 1: actually kind of the opposite effect. I think the more
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Speaker 1: that I've watched him, the more that I appreciate the
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Speaker 1: talent that he has. We caught up last week on Friday,
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Speaker 1: in fact, right after the first round of the draft
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Speaker 1: with Eric McLane. He's now full disclosure, he's a former
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Speaker 1: Clemson offensive lineman. Okay, let's put that out there. But
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Speaker 1: he is now an a c C Network analyst and
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Speaker 1: covered a lot of Clemson cames over the last few
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Speaker 1: years that involved Trevor Lawrence and Travis et end. But
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Speaker 1: his thoughts on Trevor Lawrence on the field and some
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Speaker 1: of the traits that really should translate to the NFL
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Speaker 1: for him. When you talk about, you know, these can't
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Speaker 1: miss prospects and we say, well, there's no such thing.
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Speaker 1: This is about as close as again some mean, you've
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Speaker 1: got a guy who's six ft six pounds, has no
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Speaker 1: character flaws as a model citizen, and oh, by the way,
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Speaker 1: like you said, can make every throw on the field.
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Speaker 1: And I think what's really interesting that, you know, we've
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Speaker 1: seen these pro days and it's been really cool to see,
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Speaker 1: you know, guys running around and running sideways and throwing
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Speaker 1: the ball against their body on the opposite side of
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Speaker 1: the field. Well, they're not doing it with shoulder pads,
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Speaker 1: don't They're not doing it against the defense running for
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Speaker 1: their lives. They're not doing it with any defender. Trevor's
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Speaker 1: done it, and Trevor's done it in games and we've
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Speaker 1: seen that. So when I say he can make every throw.
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Speaker 1: You know, we've we've seen that very evidently at Clemson,
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Speaker 1: and I think you're exactly right. The running piece of
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Speaker 1: his game is gonna be so dangerous. I'm so excited
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Speaker 1: to see how urban Meyer and the staff use that
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Speaker 1: aspect of his game. Because it's an ever evolving league
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Speaker 1: and if you can have a guy that is that
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Speaker 1: dangerous at both, you've got to think they're gonna take
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Speaker 1: full advantage of it. And you know, can't wait to
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Speaker 1: see Trevor Lawrence and telling Black one of the most
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Speaker 1: impressive things to me watching all these videos and things
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Speaker 1: you go on YouTube and looking up some of these
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Speaker 1: highlights of people put out, but there was one that
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Speaker 1: was basically only him rolling left and throwing down the
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Speaker 1: field on target and hitting things on a dime forty
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Speaker 1: yards down the field. You don't see that too often.
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Speaker 1: That is some special talent. There's no question that's exactly
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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. I mean, it's it's great to
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Speaker 1: be able to do that basically in your underwear, but
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Speaker 1: when you're doing it with pads and a helmet on
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Speaker 1: and going against the defense, it just means so much more.
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Speaker 1: And and that's exactly what he's done. I mean there's
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Speaker 1: countless touchdowns of him rolling left and then throwing strikes.
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Speaker 1: I mean not just throwing ducks in the air, you know,
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Speaker 1: delivering it. I remember Hunter Remfro at Georgia Tech, you know,
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Speaker 1: three years ago now, where he's rolling left and delivers
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Speaker 1: a sideline perfect ball in the end zone. And so
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Speaker 1: that's what you can really expect. And what that does
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Speaker 1: is it just open up opens the playbook up so
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Speaker 1: much more. You're not limited to Okay, we can only
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Speaker 1: run this play this way. You can do it all
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Speaker 1: and you can do it wherever and whenever you want.
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Speaker 1: And you know, I think that's really what is just
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Speaker 1: so impressive about him is the arm, talent, the legs,
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Speaker 1: and then where he's gonna get better. You know, we
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Speaker 1: were talking with a couple of h Jacksonville based radio
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Speaker 1: stations today. Where you're going to see him get better
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Speaker 1: is mentally and how this is going to become a
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Speaker 1: chess piece for him for the next ten fifteen years
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Speaker 1: where he's toying with defenses and they don't even know
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Speaker 1: what's about to happen. That's Eric McLane of the A
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Speaker 1: C C Networker. Thanks to those folks for the assistance
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Speaker 1: getting him on with his last week, and the folks
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Speaker 1: of ESPN as well. You know, that's the thing you
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Speaker 1: you mentioned the legs of Lawrence, you know, and he
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Speaker 1: used that a lot in the spread option game and
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Speaker 1: pull it out and run and you can run. He's
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Speaker 1: an he's an athlete six six to fifteen right now.
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Speaker 1: I don't think you want to do that every down
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Speaker 1: with him, No, butt, If you mix it in a
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Speaker 1: few times a game, it's one extra thing you have
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Speaker 1: to worry about. Well, look, nobody's gonna confuse Trevor Lawrence
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Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson. I mean, that's not where he is.
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Speaker 1: And uh I was having a conversation with with Chris Ryer,
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Speaker 1: who works within the Jaguars video department, and I thought
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Speaker 1: he described it perfectly, and he said that that Trevor
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Speaker 1: Lawrence has a great awareness of when to actually maybe
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Speaker 1: put his body on the line a little bit and
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Speaker 1: when not to and which means that, Look, if it's
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Speaker 1: a critical juncture of a ball game and it's third
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Speaker 1: and one, he needed to move the sticks to play
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Speaker 1: another down, he's gonna put the shoulder down. If it's
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Speaker 1: second and one and you're up by thirty and you've
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Speaker 1: got a big guy, he's gonna slide and not get
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Speaker 1: the first down. I mean, he just he has this
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Speaker 1: this instinctive way of playing the game. That's just it
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Speaker 1: shows a level of maturity and understanding of where he's
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Speaker 1: at that's so far advanced for most quarterbacks at this
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Speaker 1: particular point in his career that it's amazing. And now
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Speaker 1: I understand why when when you kind of watch some
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Speaker 1: of the things that Trevor Lawrence does with his legs
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Speaker 1: and some of the things that they were able to
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Speaker 1: do it Clemson, you understand why they drafted e. T n.
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Speaker 1: You understand why they've put an emphasis on trying to
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Speaker 1: find a tight end. And you can hear the disappointment
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Speaker 1: in urban Meyer's voice when they weren't able to address
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Speaker 1: the tight end position higher in the draft. It's because
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Speaker 1: a lot of the threat of a running quarterback, the
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Speaker 1: natural complimentary plays are plays that go to the back
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Speaker 1: and the tight end. And uh so it's gonna be
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Speaker 1: fun and and it's gonna be a lot of fun
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Speaker 1: watching how this offense evolves with Trevor Lawrence, because he
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Speaker 1: can do so many different things, and in early on,
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Speaker 1: I think some of those things where he does some running,
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Speaker 1: and then the threat of him running creates opportunities certainly
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Speaker 1: can be taken advantage of early in his career once
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Speaker 1: the other things start to show a little bit more
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Speaker 1: capable ability, the deep passes, the reading the defenses. And
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's gonna take a long time for
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Speaker 1: him to figure that out, because he's he's got a
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Speaker 1: pretty good grasp of it already. But I think there's
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Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit of a learning curve in
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Speaker 1: the NFL, just because the defensive playbook is maybe about
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Speaker 1: four times as thick as the college playbook. You mentioned
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Speaker 1: Travis E. T n the number twenty five overall pick,
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Speaker 1: and urban Meyer after the draft was asked about his
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Speaker 1: role in this Jaguars offense. And the way we've always
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Speaker 1: looked at offensive football is that, you know, just over
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Speaker 1: the years, anytime you can find that dual threat guy
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Speaker 1: that can carry the ball and catch the ball, you know,
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Speaker 1: obviously the name that comes up as Percy so often.
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's a Percy will find out, but
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Speaker 1: he's a guy that he's he's a piece of the
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Speaker 1: puzzle that's kind of hard to cover. So over the
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Speaker 1: last year or two a climpse at E. T. N.
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Speaker 1: Really worked on catching the football more consistently after practice
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Speaker 1: jugs machine with Trevor Lawrence, and it showed up the
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Speaker 1: last couple of years. Is combined, he has over a
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Speaker 1: thousand receiving yards and he can barely catch a cold
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Speaker 1: the first year, and he showed up on campus at Clemson.
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Speaker 1: So he worked on this. Now the idea that he's
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Speaker 1: Percy Harvard. He's not Percy Harvard. That was a different
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Speaker 1: kind of player at Florida. But the idea of that
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Speaker 1: position where you can line him up outside, throw a
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Speaker 1: bubble screen to him and then he can take it
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Speaker 1: forty yards after a three yard pass, that's the idea
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Speaker 1: I think they have in mind for E. T. N. Well,
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Speaker 1: I watched, Uh. I went back and I watched every
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Speaker 1: target that he had. In a target is is where
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Speaker 1: the pass is intended form. It doesn't matter whether he
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Speaker 1: catches it or not. It's just the ball is headed
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Speaker 1: in his direction. And I thought maybe there was one
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Speaker 1: drop out of all the Yeah, I mean it was.
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Speaker 1: It was amazing. I'm when I say drop, I mean
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Speaker 1: just a flat out drop. I mean there was some
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Speaker 1: balls that were very difficult to catch or got tipped
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Speaker 1: or whatever that weren't necessarily on him. But I mean
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Speaker 1: he's got a it's got really nice soft hand. But
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Speaker 1: the thing that impresses me consistently about each end, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: he's a he's a dual threat running back. Yes he
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Speaker 1: runs the ball very well. Yes he is a legitimate receiver.
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Speaker 1: And yes they're gonna be able to get favorable matchups
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Speaker 1: when they have him on the field with maybe Jay
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Speaker 1: rob and then they've got a match up with a
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Speaker 1: linebacker and a detached alignement. Detached alignment is not in
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Speaker 1: the backfield. Okay, well, now all of a sudden you
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Speaker 1: put a linebacker route on an island man coverage. It's
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Speaker 1: very similar to maybe some of the concepts that you
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Speaker 1: can take advantage of with the tight end. That is
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Speaker 1: truly a great place for e. T N two be in,
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Speaker 1: and I agree with urban Meyer, great spot for him
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Speaker 1: to be in. But what makes the tense special his speed.
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Speaker 1: I mean he the angles that defenders take don't work
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Speaker 1: because he's so fast. He catches the ball and he turns. Uh.
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Speaker 1: There's one particular play that I watched. It was uh.
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Speaker 1: In fact, I got it written down on my place
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Speaker 1: sheet because I got my game pad right here. It's
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Speaker 1: like a three a minus three yard catch on a screen.
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Speaker 1: He turns it into like a fifty three yard touchdown run.
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Speaker 1: So explosive. He can catch him, nobody can catch him.
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Speaker 1: And he's got great balance, he's got great vision, he's
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Speaker 1: he's got ball awareness. He does a great job of
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Speaker 1: switching the ball making sure that it's protected at all times.
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Speaker 1: I thought it was a very good pick. And look, uh,
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Speaker 1: never been a big fan of drafting running backs high
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Speaker 1: in the first round or in the first round, and uh,
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Speaker 1: it's hard to argue with this one just because of
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Speaker 1: the explosives explosiveness of e t n And it's not
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Speaker 1: like he's just gonna have his hands on both of
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Speaker 1: his knees in the backfield every down, like he's gonna
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Speaker 1: be out and about moving around, and it feels like
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Speaker 1: it's kind of it's kind of surprising JP that I mean,
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Speaker 1: when you think of teams in the National Football League
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Speaker 1: that the Saints, I mean obviously come to mind because
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Speaker 1: of what they do with Kamar Yes routes down the field.
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Speaker 1: Well that's what they're I think that's what they're envisioning
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Speaker 1: for E t N. So if we're wondering what can
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Speaker 1: they do where with E t N? Think of Alvin Kamara.
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Speaker 1: But he But here's the thing. Did Drew Brees threaten
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Speaker 1: anybody with his legs about a chance? No, we'll see
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Speaker 1: that now. See that's the added X factor of what
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Speaker 1: eat N with Trevor Lawrence at quarterback gives you. Because
15:21
Speaker 1: when the quarterback has a legitimate threat to run, now
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Speaker 1: all sudden, these detached running backs or if they're even
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Speaker 1: attached in the box so to speak, of the offense,
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Speaker 1: now the linebacker's eyes are not just on the back
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Speaker 1: and coverage, they're on the quarterback that could run. So
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Speaker 1: that gives an advantage even more so to a back
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Speaker 1: like E. T N that can be detached or attached
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Speaker 1: and be a legitimate receiving threat. So I'm excited to
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Speaker 1: be able to see the opportunities that are going to
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Speaker 1: be created schematically for for the young man find the
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Speaker 1: right match up and go to town and take the
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Speaker 1: snap and go go about forty yards. Yeah, he's like
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Speaker 1: and and you know, the one knock on the pick
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Speaker 1: is that it's a running back. And and I said
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Speaker 1: in our draft radio program that night that I was
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Speaker 1: a much bigger fan of E t N than the
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Speaker 1: Alabama running back to Pittsburgh and because of the t
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Speaker 1: N speed, and I just don't I mean, I thought
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh made a mistake just because you just you never
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Speaker 1: bypass speed when it comes to that position, and and
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Speaker 1: they did. But uh and then the one knock obviously
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Speaker 1: is that he's got a lot of miles and that
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Speaker 1: he is what the a C C Clemson record holder
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Speaker 1: for yards rushing in a season, Yes, absolutely, but two
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Speaker 1: time player of the Year in the conference to a
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Speaker 1: lot of mileage. Emmett Smith had a lot of miles
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Speaker 1: when he came out of Florida, right, Okay, And I
16:55
Speaker 1: guess what, he ended up with a lot of miles
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Speaker 1: in the NFL, the most of anybody in fact in
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Speaker 1: the NFL. Let's come back in a moment. We'll hear
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Speaker 1: from Tyson Campbell, the Jaguars number thirty three overall, pick
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Speaker 1: out of the University of Georgia, the Cornerback and Welcome
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Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Jeff Logaman, Brent Reverer on the video side,
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Speaker 1: picks and they go cornerback in the second round. Logs
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Speaker 1: a guy who's what six one? Uh, he's long, he's fast,
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Speaker 1: and I guess Urban Meyer probably would get along with
22:13
Speaker 1: most guys that are six one corners that can run
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Speaker 1: and play the ball and do everything. What have you
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Speaker 1: seen on tape from Tyson camp Got great movement and
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Speaker 1: great size for for a bigger corner. And when I
22:26
Speaker 1: say great movement, he's like glue. He is always right
22:29
Speaker 1: in the hip pocket of the wide receiver. I honestly
22:32
Speaker 1: think that he's going to compete for our starting spot
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Speaker 1: with C. J. Henderson. I think that I really did.
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Speaker 1: It felt like after the pick and the press conference
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Speaker 1: at the end of the draft that Urban said, hey,
22:43
Speaker 1: he can be an interior guy at least to start
22:45
Speaker 1: your nickel. Maybe an extra guy you think he could go.
22:48
Speaker 1: I think he can come in and compete. Wow, I
22:50
Speaker 1: do I think he could come in and compete. I
22:52
Speaker 1: think he's got the size. I think he's got the discipline.
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Speaker 1: He I think he does a real good job with
22:57
Speaker 1: consistency as far as at the line of scrimmage with
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Speaker 1: wide receivers. He's very good with his hands. He doesn't
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Speaker 1: get faked out, he doesn't get double moved. I mean,
23:07
Speaker 1: he's a guy that I think that's got. Uh. The
23:10
Speaker 1: only thing that he's missing is what people talk about,
23:14
Speaker 1: and that's legitimate. It's the ball skills. Does he make
23:17
Speaker 1: plays on the ball? And it's always about the ball,
23:20
Speaker 1: And that's the most important thing. Is your conversation with
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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah was talked about earlier and that you know
23:28
Speaker 1: with the corner that you've gotta be able to put
23:30
Speaker 1: your hands on the ball and make interceptions. That's the
23:32
Speaker 1: one area that he has been lacking in his career
23:34
Speaker 1: so far. So it's an area that needs to be
23:37
Speaker 1: improved upon. It it can be improved upon. I'm a
23:39
Speaker 1: big believer and that everything can be improved upon, even
23:42
Speaker 1: ball skills. You're not just be born with it or not.
23:45
Speaker 1: I mean some guys are born with a higher level
23:47
Speaker 1: of it, but I think it can be worked on
23:49
Speaker 1: and improved upon him. That's the one category that he's
23:52
Speaker 1: got to be able to do is is to track
23:54
Speaker 1: the ball better, to do a better job with his hands,
23:57
Speaker 1: and also making better decisions win to knock the ball
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Speaker 1: down with one arm versus getting your body turned and
24:05
Speaker 1: become a receiver. And I think that's the one area
24:07
Speaker 1: that he needed to improve on. That that you mentioned
24:09
Speaker 1: that interview with Daniel Jeremiah that will run on Monday
24:12
Speaker 1: on the Jaguars social channels and on It's okay, we're
24:17
Speaker 1: actually gonna hear from we're teasing the tease that's ahead.
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Speaker 1: That's okay, we're gonna We're gonna get to that. Come
24:23
Speaker 1: it up. So that but that just continues the build
24:27
Speaker 1: and the rebuild that the Jaguars have done um in
24:30
Speaker 1: the secondary this offseason. It's been a full defensive rebuild,
24:33
Speaker 1: it feels like, except for the linebacker position for the
24:35
Speaker 1: most part, the defensive line and free agency and let's
24:39
Speaker 1: stay in the back and the back end just a
24:41
Speaker 1: little bit, and we're kind of jumping a little bit
24:43
Speaker 1: deeper into the draft because I think Cisco, the safety
24:46
Speaker 1: for Syracuse, is a baller now. He he is, He
24:50
Speaker 1: doesn't need any ball Skilling's gonna say, he's about it.
24:53
Speaker 1: He was the best of college football when he left
24:56
Speaker 1: this cat can and at the balls in the air,
24:58
Speaker 1: he's gonna get it and uh. And the one knock
25:03
Speaker 1: on him, obviously is that he suffered a knee injury
25:06
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be rehabbing and coming back from it
25:08
Speaker 1: this year. But if he didn't have a knee, I
25:11
Speaker 1: mean there's there might be he might be the top
25:14
Speaker 1: safety picked overall. And I can tell you from watching
25:17
Speaker 1: the film the top rated safety that win in Round one?
25:22
Speaker 1: What was his name from? Was it TCU? Mary? Okay,
25:30
Speaker 1: I'll take Cisco over Mary all day long, all day long.
25:34
Speaker 1: Watching the film run them too, I'm taking Cisco. Was
25:37
Speaker 1: that it's about the ball, taking the ball away, It's
25:40
Speaker 1: about the ball picks in twenty four games, It's about
25:44
Speaker 1: the ball a lot. First of all his ball skills,
25:47
Speaker 1: he's a He's more than capable defender. He can play
25:53
Speaker 1: in the slot and has played in the slot and coverage.
25:56
Speaker 1: I like him. Is he physical, Like, what's this? Can
25:59
Speaker 1: he come hit guy? He's not what he I wouldn't
26:02
Speaker 1: say that he was quite as physical as more Rig
26:04
Speaker 1: as far as tackling, but he's plenty physical enough. And
26:09
Speaker 1: then here's the reality. Would you rather have Ed Reid
26:15
Speaker 1: or Ronnie lott in today's NFL? Well, Ronnie, let will
26:18
Speaker 1: get you penalized a lot, He'll lose a lot of
26:20
Speaker 1: five money. Love. I love Ronnie lott Man. He was
26:23
Speaker 1: a Teammatene, one of the greatest teammates I ever had,
26:27
Speaker 1: and he used to he used to hit guys and
26:29
Speaker 1: we used to call him he puts snot bubber hits
26:31
Speaker 1: on you, but that you can't do that in today's game.
26:36
Speaker 1: But but Cisco has got great ball skills. He's got
26:39
Speaker 1: nice coverage, he's uh, he's good against the run. He's
26:42
Speaker 1: just gotta just he's gotta keep on working on that rehab.
26:45
Speaker 1: And and if he didn't get hurt, I mean, who
26:47
Speaker 1: knows where he would have been drafted. But I think
26:49
Speaker 1: that's a real nice compliment to a to a Tyson
26:53
Speaker 1: Campbell is the Cisco young man from Syracuse. Let's move
26:56
Speaker 1: to the trenches now, and the Jaguars get a tackle
27:00
Speaker 1: out of Stanford. Walker Little a guy who hasn't played
27:04
Speaker 1: in darn near two seasons. He was injured early in
27:09
Speaker 1: nineteen first game of the season, had a knee issue
27:12
Speaker 1: and knee injury a c L and then came back
27:14
Speaker 1: out of that, but then opted out last year because
27:17
Speaker 1: the Pac twelve decided to not play football. So he's like,
27:21
Speaker 1: you know, we'll go on to the draft. By the
27:23
Speaker 1: time the Pac twelve decided to play, he's like, well,
27:26
Speaker 1: we're already half way to the draft and we're opted out.
27:29
Speaker 1: It's done. And uh so, hey, he's been out of
27:33
Speaker 1: football for a while, but he has every physical trait
27:36
Speaker 1: you want. I mean, he's six seven, three twenty. He
27:39
Speaker 1: can move. He was one of the highest rated recruits
27:41
Speaker 1: coming out of high school. He had a track record
27:43
Speaker 1: his first two years on the field at Stanford, including
27:46
Speaker 1: a first team All Conference selection as a sophomore. The
27:49
Speaker 1: guy can play, he just hasn't played in a while.
27:52
Speaker 1: Can he play? You know? Here here's what I think.
27:56
Speaker 1: First off, I wish people would stop saying that somebody
27:59
Speaker 1: opted out out when the conference in the schools decided
28:02
Speaker 1: not to play football. Okay, the terminology is not proper
28:07
Speaker 1: to say that so and so opted out. He didn't
28:09
Speaker 1: have the opportunity. Uh. Little is certainly not little. He
28:14
Speaker 1: he reminds me of kind of a John Oggden Tony Boselli.
28:19
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about level of skill. I'm just
28:21
Speaker 1: saying the body tight, the size. When you say he's
28:25
Speaker 1: a big man, it's not like you put the air
28:28
Speaker 1: hose into him and you start pumping him up. Okay,
28:31
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of guys that play tackle and
28:33
Speaker 1: have played tackle in the National Football League for many
28:35
Speaker 1: years that if they are walking around every day, some
28:39
Speaker 1: of them might weigh two d and twenty pounds. Luke
28:43
Speaker 1: Jokel is the guy that probably was to this day.
28:45
Speaker 1: He's probably too thirty, okay, but then he gains way
28:49
Speaker 1: to be an offensive tackle league. I think he would
28:52
Speaker 1: end up being around three I think was when he
28:55
Speaker 1: was at But this is like like BOSSELLI guy here,
28:58
Speaker 1: this guy. This guy walks around. He says a big man,
29:01
Speaker 1: big man, and so when he's carrying three and twenty pounds,
29:06
Speaker 1: he looks like he's carrying two hundred and seventy five pounds.
29:11
Speaker 1: Went and he played one game in nineteen and then
29:14
Speaker 1: had the knee injury, and so and then last year
29:17
Speaker 1: the conference didn't play football until it was already way late.
29:22
Speaker 1: So you go back and you watch the Film's what
29:25
Speaker 1: I did. Uh. The guy has First of all, he
29:28
Speaker 1: has great flexibility for a big man. He can bend,
29:31
Speaker 1: he can contort, he can do a lot of things
29:34
Speaker 1: that you would expect out of smaller people. The way
29:36
Speaker 1: that he gets in his stance, the way that he
29:39
Speaker 1: drive blocks people, and he's a guy that gets movement.
29:45
Speaker 1: He's got excellent footwork. And this is going back to
29:48
Speaker 1: eighteen when he was a young pup. So you know,
29:53
Speaker 1: and and and scouting a lot of times is forecasting,
29:57
Speaker 1: so you have to project. Well, here's a difficult projection
30:02
Speaker 1: because you're trying to project a guy that hasn't played
30:05
Speaker 1: in a couple of years, and it's gonna be three years,
30:10
Speaker 1: right or almost three years a little almost three years
30:14
Speaker 1: since he's played once he starts playing again. And so
30:18
Speaker 1: but if you project, if you looked at how he
30:20
Speaker 1: played in eighteen and then you had that very short
30:24
Speaker 1: snippet he got hurt in the first game of twenty nineteen,
30:26
Speaker 1: you look at that, and then you just kind of
30:29
Speaker 1: continue to follow the trend of where he was going.
30:33
Speaker 1: Many people expected him to be the first overall tackle
30:38
Speaker 1: taken in the draft this year when he would be
30:41
Speaker 1: coming out. Uh, he can run, he can run block,
30:45
Speaker 1: He's got excellent feet. I would guess that he could
30:48
Speaker 1: play left tackle, right tackle. I think it doesn't matter.
30:51
Speaker 1: I think you can play him wherever you want to.
30:53
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be the immediate swing tackle, and
30:57
Speaker 1: I think that he will push for a starting job
31:00
Speaker 1: if not, if not during this year because of the
31:04
Speaker 1: lack of activity the last couple of years, then certainly
31:08
Speaker 1: when you go into two, he will be competing for
31:12
Speaker 1: a starting job or he will be your starter alright,
31:16
Speaker 1: because Cam Robinson is on that one year tender and
31:19
Speaker 1: the franchise tag. So hey, maybe it's a natural transition
31:24
Speaker 1: or or earlier. I like that pick because, look, if
31:28
Speaker 1: you if you want to get a franchise left tackle,
31:31
Speaker 1: typically it costs you a franchise draft pick, which is
31:34
Speaker 1: the first round pick. Well, you're getting him in round two,
31:40
Speaker 1: two for a potential franchise and what day wasn't even
31:44
Speaker 1: top around two. Now, okay, it was your second pick
31:47
Speaker 1: in round two and you're potentially getting a franchise tackle.
31:51
Speaker 1: And obviously that's forecasting now, and and and that's you know,
31:57
Speaker 1: are we stretching to that a little bit? Maybe, but
32:00
Speaker 1: that's where many people felt that he would end up
32:04
Speaker 1: this year. So can he end up there? If he does?
32:07
Speaker 1: I mean, what a draft pick. If you got a
32:08
Speaker 1: franchise left tackle with the second round pick, that's huge,
32:12
Speaker 1: Then a starting corner and a running back who you
32:14
Speaker 1: think could be a playmaker. Oh and the because quarterback
32:18
Speaker 1: JP right now, you don't have a franchise left tackle
32:22
Speaker 1: or a franchise right tackle. Neither one of your tackles
32:26
Speaker 1: have shown their franchise guys yet, So you need to
32:30
Speaker 1: have somebody step up and say I'm your franchise guy now.
32:35
Speaker 1: I hope, look any of the three do that. Somebody
32:39
Speaker 1: somebody's got to step up and say I'll be your
32:42
Speaker 1: franchise right tackle or I'll be your franchise left tackle,
32:45
Speaker 1: and and and what. One of the greatest things to
32:48
Speaker 1: get people to do that competition. Competition. If you've got competition,
32:57
Speaker 1: it ought to be ought to bring the best out
32:59
Speaker 1: in everybody. If it doesn't got a problem, pressure bus
33:02
Speaker 1: pipes or it creates diamonds, logs, think about that for
33:06
Speaker 1: a while. Well, yeah, we were talking about coal under pressure,
33:08
Speaker 1: immense pressure for thousands and thousands of years to make diamonds.
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Speaker 1: But we don't have years to wait a few months
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Speaker 1: to find a franchise Left Tackle JP, Thank you very much.
33:18
Speaker 1: Of the comparison is probably not very good. Appreciate that logs.
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Speaker 1: He does a great job. Obviously it's a lot of
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Speaker 1: work too. He hasn't he he does a good job.
38:28
Speaker 1: He does a really good job, and he has He's
38:30
Speaker 1: not Mike Mayock, but he does a good job. I'm look,
38:34
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a huge Mike Mayock fan always have been.
38:37
Speaker 1: I think he when when he was doing his work
38:42
Speaker 1: with with the NFL Network and NFL dot Com, his
38:46
Speaker 1: stuff was I thought was impeccable. He uh, he had
38:49
Speaker 1: an opinion, he formed his own opinion, but he also
38:52
Speaker 1: talked to people, was able to gather opinions and and
38:56
Speaker 1: he was his very accurate. His information was on like
38:59
Speaker 1: I would. I would The way I've always kind of
39:02
Speaker 1: done it is that I would look at people's rankings
39:05
Speaker 1: of players, and I would watch the film on a
39:07
Speaker 1: guy and after seeing where they are ranked, and then
39:10
Speaker 1: I would go back and read the review or the
39:12
Speaker 1: opinion on the person to see if it matched what
39:15
Speaker 1: I what I watched. And Mayock, even though I thought
39:20
Speaker 1: he had a little bit of a reach over the
39:22
Speaker 1: last couple of years and drafting, me and him have
39:25
Speaker 1: always had pretty close opinions. Like he drafted the defensive
39:29
Speaker 1: end from from what schools that instead of draft that
39:34
Speaker 1: was Cleveland Farrell from Clemson instead of drafting Josh's right
39:38
Speaker 1: and then j P Look, I love the Alabama program, okay,
39:42
Speaker 1: but Leatherwood. I'll take Walter Little all day long over
39:48
Speaker 1: Leatherwood all day long. Okay, now, even even though he
39:54
Speaker 1: hasn't played anything in four years, let's come back and
39:59
Speaker 1: he was in my opinion, and I like Leatherwood now,
40:02
Speaker 1: I mean play strong hands, um defeat, but a little.
40:09
Speaker 1: I think he might be a better player long run.
40:11
Speaker 1: But like I said, we'll have this conversation and take
40:15
Speaker 1: a note, will mark this point. We'll go back four
40:18
Speaker 1: years from now, we will review this part of the
40:22
Speaker 1: show and we'll regrade the Jacks drafts. Let's do it.
40:25
Speaker 1: That's well, that's the only way you really Actually, here's
40:28
Speaker 1: the reality. As much as you get excited about the draft,
40:33
Speaker 1: and look, Trevor Lawrence gives you reason to have great excitement,
40:36
Speaker 1: and make no mistake about it. I mean, this is
40:38
Speaker 1: a this is a generational pick. There's there's no arguing
40:42
Speaker 1: that it's It's an opportunity that comes along very few times.
40:48
Speaker 1: I mean, think about Andrew Luck, Trevor Lawrence, uh, John Elway.
40:52
Speaker 1: I mean, or were there any other draft where you
40:54
Speaker 1: had consensus number one picks before they even finished the
40:58
Speaker 1: college football season? Many? Not many. There was always debates
41:02
Speaker 1: like I mean Peyton Manny Ryan Leaf who should be
41:04
Speaker 1: number one? But there was no clear cut, no argument,
41:08
Speaker 1: no debate number one overalls. There's been very few of
41:11
Speaker 1: them in NFL history. This is one. So but the
41:15
Speaker 1: reality is there's been many Jaguar drafts in the past
41:19
Speaker 1: that we sit there and we go, man, this is
41:20
Speaker 1: a really good draft. This is really good job, you know,
41:23
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it looks good. And then
41:26
Speaker 1: we get four years down the road and we go,
41:29
Speaker 1: nobody's left, like the guys two of the top four
41:35
Speaker 1: four picks or out of the league altogether, and then
41:38
Speaker 1: the other guys are our marginal starters and aren't even
41:42
Speaker 1: with your team anymore. So was it a good draft? No?
41:45
Speaker 1: You know. So time is always the true test of
41:47
Speaker 1: where the draft is good. But the Trevor Lawrence opportunity here,
41:53
Speaker 1: it's just everything else pales in comparison, because this is
41:57
Speaker 1: what this draft is all about, and if he ends
42:00
Speaker 1: up being who we think he can become, it makes
42:05
Speaker 1: the entire draft doesn't matter. Now, we don't have to
42:10
Speaker 1: go through every guy. Just to your point of past
42:13
Speaker 1: drafts like that seen draft class, right, the only two
42:16
Speaker 1: guys left there were what seven players taken? Cam Robinson
42:20
Speaker 1: and the one smooth four nets gone Westbrook's gone, Blair
42:23
Speaker 1: Brown Jalen Myrick, Marquez, Williams, a lot of those guys.
42:27
Speaker 1: All right, now you're playing, Okay, go back to even
42:30
Speaker 1: like for example the thirteenth throughout the Luke Drow Yeah,
42:33
Speaker 1: they're all I mean, Cyprian played some after here and
42:36
Speaker 1: then grots is gone. A Sanders didn't make it to
42:38
Speaker 1: nards in the scouting department now such a good guy. Yeah,
42:42
Speaker 1: and Josh Japans, Jeremy Harris to meet Cray played a
42:45
Speaker 1: little bit. But that's it those That's the way it was.
42:48
Speaker 1: And when when when that draft happened, we thought that
42:52
Speaker 1: was a great draft. But again, time will always be
42:57
Speaker 1: the test of how good your draft class, because for
43:01
Speaker 1: it to be considered successful, you need to win with
43:05
Speaker 1: those players and that they need to have. The players
43:08
Speaker 1: themselves need to have staying power. They have to stay
43:11
Speaker 1: in the league and not not just be in the
43:13
Speaker 1: league as guys that are you know, total a Gatorade Cup,
43:16
Speaker 1: but I mean guys that play, guys that are good,
43:19
Speaker 1: you know, especially when you have to first two seconds
43:24
Speaker 1: and two fours. I mean, this is this is a
43:27
Speaker 1: draft that that it represents and it was is one
43:31
Speaker 1: of the biggest, greatest opportunities to change the franchise is
43:35
Speaker 1: direction and you hope that it works out for the best,
43:38
Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence gives you a great chance at changing
43:41
Speaker 1: where this franchise has been to get it to where
43:44
Speaker 1: it wants to go. Let's touch it. A couple more
43:46
Speaker 1: draft picks will get on the final two of the
43:48
Speaker 1: final segment coming up. But let's go to Day three
43:51
Speaker 1: on Saturday, the Jaguars go out to the pack twelve
43:54
Speaker 1: and get J two Felly, the defensive tackle from Southern
43:57
Speaker 1: cal who opted out last year. There was some COVID
43:59
Speaker 1: nineteen ishi in his family, really bad, yes, so he
44:05
Speaker 1: sat out. Was always gonna stop with him a real
44:07
Speaker 1: quick because he's a big, strong cat. He did uh
44:10
Speaker 1: for USC's pro day, did like thirty reps. I mean,
44:16
Speaker 1: he's a he's a big dude, you know, one of
44:18
Speaker 1: the I don't know if he's a Samoan or Hawaiian
44:22
Speaker 1: or what's his background. He's from Salt Lake City originally.
44:25
Speaker 1: Just something he has that built, you know, that big
44:28
Speaker 1: big body, big frame. He's strong, he plays with strong hands.
44:35
Speaker 1: His um wind I think is a little bit of
44:38
Speaker 1: a concern for me. How good of a pass rusher
44:41
Speaker 1: is he I don't know that. I think he's still
44:44
Speaker 1: got a lot of work to do as a pass rusher.
44:46
Speaker 1: But the one thing I think that that stands out
44:48
Speaker 1: he's very strong at the point. And so if you're
44:51
Speaker 1: looking at because he was a three technique for the
44:54
Speaker 1: most part at SC, I don't envision him being a
44:57
Speaker 1: three technique. I think he is a guy it is
45:00
Speaker 1: more suited to playing the nose tackle or the one
45:03
Speaker 1: technique position, just because he's one of those high energy, uh,
45:08
Speaker 1: strong hands, point of attack type of guys. Okay, that's
45:13
Speaker 1: good to know. Now you stay on the defensive line
45:15
Speaker 1: and trader Trent Baalkey did us all a favor and
45:19
Speaker 1: got rid of the seventh round pick to move up
45:21
Speaker 1: nine spots in that in that round to get Jordan
45:24
Speaker 1: Smith out of the University of Alabama Birmingham. He started
45:27
Speaker 1: at Florida, had some off the field issues there, transferred
45:31
Speaker 1: to a junior college in Kansas, and then ended up
45:33
Speaker 1: in Birmingham and was a really good player for the
45:37
Speaker 1: Blazers last year. Yeah he um obviously the checkered pass
45:42
Speaker 1: with Florida credit card scam or something like that, and
45:46
Speaker 1: then goes to U. A B. Give him credit, he
45:49
Speaker 1: continued to fight and kept himself clean ever since the
45:53
Speaker 1: incident at UF. He is more comfortable playing in a
45:58
Speaker 1: two point stance as an a side linebacker, which the
46:01
Speaker 1: Jaguars are gonna institute some three four and then also
46:05
Speaker 1: have some four three. But I think he's a would
46:08
Speaker 1: be a really good strong side. In other words, if
46:12
Speaker 1: you're the Pittsburgh Steelers, he would be the left outside
46:15
Speaker 1: linebacker and then Josh would be your right outside linebacker.
46:19
Speaker 1: So I think he's more natural with that. When he
46:21
Speaker 1: gets his hand on the ground, he he gets lost
46:25
Speaker 1: sometimes as a as a true defensive four or three
46:28
Speaker 1: defensive end where he gets reached, his footworks not real clean.
46:33
Speaker 1: He just plays better when he's standing up in a
46:36
Speaker 1: two point and he can see things. So I think
46:39
Speaker 1: he's a good addition. And obviously the checkered pass and
46:42
Speaker 1: going to U. A B. Dropped his stock somewhat. And
46:45
Speaker 1: he's got the measurables. He's got some numbers, so I
46:49
Speaker 1: think he's a he's a good addition. Six six, Yeah,
46:53
Speaker 1: that's the measurables. Man. He's he's a big dude. Now,
46:57
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46:59
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47:03
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47:06
Speaker 1: At you a B. And so that's I think the
47:08
Speaker 1: jury is still out on that. But anytime you can
47:11
Speaker 1: find an edge rusher in the fourth round, I mean, look,
47:14
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47:16
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47:19
Speaker 1: mean it's they're hard to find. So uh, And I
47:22
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47:24
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47:26
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47:29
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47:31
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47:34
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Speaker 1: at the draft picks for the Jags and go in
52:21
Speaker 1: the fifth round. Luke Farrell tight end Ohio State personal
52:25
Speaker 1: pick for Urban Meyritt felt like because as we said
52:28
Speaker 1: in an earlier show and we saw in the draft
52:31
Speaker 1: room phone call to Farrell, he said, hey, look you're
52:33
Speaker 1: gonna be a member of the Jaguars. Oh great, let
52:37
Speaker 1: me talk to your parents, like they go straight to
52:39
Speaker 1: the fair because they're all tight because he played for
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Speaker 1: Urban Ohio State like their family, friends of everybody. And
52:46
Speaker 1: the reaction was was pretty cool. Check it out on
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Speaker 1: Jaguars dot com. But blocking tight end here, Yeah, he's
52:51
Speaker 1: an inline tight end. That The only thing I would say,
52:54
Speaker 1: because I haven't watched Luke Farrell yet on film, is
52:57
Speaker 1: that boy. And when the head coach finishes up the
53:00
Speaker 1: draft and talks about his disappointment of not being able
53:03
Speaker 1: to get a you know, significant tight end early in
53:06
Speaker 1: the draft, it's like, wait a minute, didn't you just
53:09
Speaker 1: put the tight end right? His name is Luke Farrell,
53:13
Speaker 1: So but I means, you know, he's I think the
53:16
Speaker 1: point is that, you know, you're trying to look for
53:18
Speaker 1: a dynamic receiving tight tight end that that can threaten defenses,
53:23
Speaker 1: and as Luke Farrell that no, but look, we're gonna
53:25
Speaker 1: run the ball though, if you can if you can
53:28
Speaker 1: get really good blockers, and if you add another good
53:31
Speaker 1: blocker to the one that you signed in free agency,
53:35
Speaker 1: look you might be in a real good place. So
53:38
Speaker 1: so we'll see, and I look forward to watching the
53:40
Speaker 1: film on him between now and next Thursday show. And
53:45
Speaker 1: then finally in the sixth round, the Jaguars go up
53:48
Speaker 1: to Atlanta and get Jalen Camp, the wide receiver from
53:52
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech. And as we said last year when Tyler
53:54
Speaker 1: Davis was to pick out of Georgia, Georgia Tech the
53:57
Speaker 1: tight end. You know, that's an offense still in trans position.
54:00
Speaker 1: They played triple option there for what fifteen years, Paul Johnson,
54:03
Speaker 1: this is this was only their second season out of that,
54:06
Speaker 1: so playing a different type of offense. Well, Jalen Camp
54:10
Speaker 1: has been there his whole career, so he played in
54:12
Speaker 1: both offenses. As a receiver outside, you gotta get a
54:15
Speaker 1: little dirty, get some get physical and block and do
54:17
Speaker 1: all that stuff. So his receiving stats aren't huge, but
54:21
Speaker 1: his pro day stats are through the rooflogs. This guy
54:25
Speaker 1: is dynamic. Yeah what what what what's his measurables? Uh?
54:29
Speaker 1: He's two to twenty, big, big, big body, you know,
54:32
Speaker 1: he's got. He's built kind of like a like a
54:35
Speaker 1: small h back, which is much bigger than a wide receiver.
54:39
Speaker 1: His speed is off the chart, he's athletic, and I
54:43
Speaker 1: think when you start to get in the later rounds,
54:45
Speaker 1: you're looking at guys that just can make a roster
54:48
Speaker 1: and make a contribution first and foremost on special teams,
54:51
Speaker 1: because look, the reality is that when you go in
54:53
Speaker 1: a game day, your top three receivers, four receivers all
54:57
Speaker 1: are gonna be guys that are gonna be able to
55:00
Speaker 1: contribute on offense. And then after that, if you're gonna
55:02
Speaker 1: be active on game day, you've got to be a
55:04
Speaker 1: significant contributor on special teams. And when you have the
55:08
Speaker 1: measurables that Jalen Camp has as far as the height, weight, speed,
55:12
Speaker 1: you got a chance. You gotta be a chance. You
55:15
Speaker 1: got a chance of being active on game day. I mean, look,
55:18
Speaker 1: thirty bench press reps at I mean, look, I was
55:24
Speaker 1: a linebacker coming out and I didn't even come close
55:27
Speaker 1: to that number. I was like twenty eighteen or twenty
55:31
Speaker 1: somewhere in that range. And then this guy runs a
55:34
Speaker 1: four or four three thirty nine and a half inch vertical.
55:37
Speaker 1: I mean that's it's hard to ignore. And I'm not
55:41
Speaker 1: a big fan of drafting numbers not but when you
55:45
Speaker 1: get into the late rounds and six and seven, you
55:50
Speaker 1: gotta start drafting guys that that aren't about sometimes being
55:54
Speaker 1: on film. You need to start drafting guys that have
55:58
Speaker 1: some some type of freak at reviews. Okay, those numbers
56:03
Speaker 1: are freak attributes, and that's a guy that has an
56:06
Speaker 1: opportunity to make your team just because of those numbers,
56:08
Speaker 1: because of what he can give you on special teams.
56:11
Speaker 1: Let's take a look. There's there's our review of the
56:13
Speaker 1: draft picks. Well done, law almost. We will come back
56:16
Speaker 1: on the tight end. We'll come back on Ferrell next week.
56:19
Speaker 1: Poor guy. Let's go around. The National Football League, though,
56:26
Speaker 1: and Broncos tackle Juwan James suffered an achilles injury away
56:31
Speaker 1: from the team facility. Talked about this. His ten million
56:35
Speaker 1: dollar salary is not guaranteed. Because of that, it is
56:38
Speaker 1: considered a non football injury. The league clarified in a
56:41
Speaker 1: memo this week that an injury sustained while a player
56:44
Speaker 1: is working out outside of team supervision in a location
56:47
Speaker 1: that isn't an NFL facility is not covered by the
56:51
Speaker 1: standard contractual injury guarantee. That guarantee is for skill injury
56:55
Speaker 1: and cat purposes. So let let me summarize this. He
57:01
Speaker 1: tore his achilles working out away from the team, which
57:05
Speaker 1: means his salary is now not guaranteed. The team could
57:08
Speaker 1: not could not could say, you know, we're not gonna
57:10
Speaker 1: pay you because you're hurt and you didn't get hurt
57:12
Speaker 1: while you were with us. Correct If he did the
57:14
Speaker 1: exact same thing, the exact same motion toward the exact
57:18
Speaker 1: same achilles tendon while he was at the facility, contracts guaranteed. Okay.
57:25
Speaker 1: So the whole thing that we talked about a few
57:28
Speaker 1: weeks ago about the union encouraging players are trying to
57:32
Speaker 1: get them to stay away in the off season was
57:36
Speaker 1: a bunch of bs. And this is one of the
57:39
Speaker 1: reasons why we we talked about creating camaraderie, being competitive
57:44
Speaker 1: in the all season training better with others, having the
57:48
Speaker 1: best facilities, having the safest facilities with COVID. And here's
57:53
Speaker 1: the another reason that we talked about. If you get
57:55
Speaker 1: hurt and you're on their time, then you're on their dime.
58:00
Speaker 1: If you're on your time, you're on your dime. You're
58:04
Speaker 1: on their time, you're on their dime. So you could
58:07
Speaker 1: choose to work out with the team and then if
58:09
Speaker 1: you get to sustained an injury, then your contracts guaranteed.
58:13
Speaker 1: And Patrick Mahomes I think tweeted something out I read
58:17
Speaker 1: somewhere that he was kind of like, what, he's not
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Speaker 1: gonna get paid? I mean, Patrick, Patrick read the collective
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Speaker 1: parking in agreement. Man, it's pretty obvious. That's how it's written,
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Speaker 1: and it's pretty easy to understand. Green Bay Packers Quarterback
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Speaker 1: Drama reports that Aaron Rodgers is upset and quote conflicted
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Speaker 1: about his future with the Packers. We'll see how that
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Speaker 1: goes down. And the lots of schedule is gonna come
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Speaker 1: out next Wednesday. Curious to see if the Jaguars have
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Speaker 1: any prime time games. They haven't had a Monday night
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Speaker 1: game since eleven. They haven't had a Sunday night game
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Speaker 1: since oh eight. Well, first overall pick in the draft
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Speaker 1: will get you a little bit more exposure into the
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers things that I say, Aaron, put your big
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Speaker 1: boy pants on. Come on, man, way really, I'm sure
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Speaker 1: he's watching right now, and like you know what, logs
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Speaker 1: you're on the list. Look, you've got a lot of
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Speaker 1: teammates that are counting on you playing, Okay, and if
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Speaker 1: you want, if you're trying to get something better contractually, fine,
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Speaker 1: then then do that. Okay, but all this, I'm not
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Speaker 1: gonna play unless the general managers fired and not coming
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Speaker 1: out and commenting on and just kind of letting those
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Speaker 1: assumptions run rampant um. Yeah. Look, if you want to
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Speaker 1: go be the host of Jeopardy, fine, then then go
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Speaker 1: do that. I don't have anything against that, but I mean,
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Speaker 1: don't don't complain oh because oh the general manager I
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Speaker 1: don't like him and he didn't draft a guy from
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Speaker 1: me last year. And I come on, man, that's Jeff Blackman.
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Speaker 1: I'm J. P. Shattricker. Thanks to Joe Fortunato and Brent
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Speaker 1: Reebert TRIMPI d our entire crew. We'll catch you next time.
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