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Changes Coming To The Eagles Offense And Defense? (PST Episode 676) · The Philadelphia Sports Table | Philly Sports News & Views

• 0:43
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show, the longest
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  Speaker 1: running weekly Philly sports podcast show in the world, over
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  Speaker 1: thirteen years strong. Got a great show coming to you
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  Speaker 1: this week, as we do every single week. Joining us
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  Speaker 1: again this week my co host edgecomb Stan. If you're
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  Speaker 1: watching on YouTube, his name's Eric Leonard. My name is
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: Jeff Warren. How you doing, Buddy, I'm good man. Hey
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  Speaker 1: guys doing I think everybody should be doing all right
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  Speaker 1: after what we saw this past week in Philly with
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  Speaker 1: the All Star Game, the home run Derby. Holy shit, Eric,
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  Speaker 1: what a time. And to start us off here, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be putting up here on the screen our buddy
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  Speaker 1: Len at the Home Run Derby, Len getting on TV
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  Speaker 1: on Netflix with his brothers next to him here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very cool and he It was like
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  Speaker 2: a pivotal point too. It was during during Jordan Walker's
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  Speaker 2: like run to Beach Warber, Yeah, which I lost forty
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  Speaker 2: bucks on that bet, but I was that close. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I was looking for him all night. I kept kept
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  Speaker 2: thinking like I knew exactly what section he was in.
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  Speaker 2: It was trying to figure out yea I saw him.
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  Speaker 1: I shot us off that video and Michelle and I
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  Speaker 1: were looking at trying to look for him all night.
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  Speaker 1: They just weren't putting the camera on him. And then
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  Speaker 1: right at the end we got the old Hunts stickers there.
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  Speaker 2: And you knew it was him immediately, like just the glasses.
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  Speaker 2: It's just the badiyes, not by the lens stance.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. And his brother is very noticeable too,
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  Speaker 1: right next to him. It's just it was very intense.
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  Speaker 1: It was It was intense moment, Yes, it absolutely was.
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  Speaker 1: So that was it was fun seeing Len on our
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  Speaker 1: screens on Netflix. So but look, dude, the the All
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  Speaker 1: Star Game, the Home run Derby, which we're going to
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  Speaker 1: be getting into, and let me let folks know what
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  Speaker 1: we're going to be diving into. Of course we're going
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  Speaker 1: to be getting to that off the bat, but we're
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  Speaker 1: also going to be getting into what is likely going
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  Speaker 1: to be happening. With regard to the Major League Baseball Draft,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people don't watch it, but it's consequential
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  Speaker 1: because it inevitably, it inevitably puts baseball in a certain
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  Speaker 1: position with young talent and specific teams for the future,
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  Speaker 1: and how teams are building within their farm system and
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  Speaker 1: Major League Baseball is going to be changing the way
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  Speaker 1: the draft is going to be occurring in the future,
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  Speaker 1: and what's gonna happen with that. So we're gonna dive
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  Speaker 1: into that. I'm gonna get into some Phillies talk quick, quick,
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  Speaker 1: quick recap of the Phillies draft, because we're certainly not
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  Speaker 1: baseball draft experts, but we wanted to get into who
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  Speaker 1: the Phillies a drafted.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want to dig into their seventeenth round pick, No,
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  Speaker 2: I don't. It might be an next door neighbor's kid.
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: I know it could be. Yes, I'll say this. I
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  Speaker 1: get Look, I wasn't gonna mention this on the podcast,
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  Speaker 1: but my daughter met a boy on vacation when we
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  Speaker 1: were in Ocean City, Maryland. Right, this kid fifteen years old,
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  Speaker 1: six foot one, so he's an inch taller than me.
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  Speaker 1: He was down in Ocean City, Maryland for a baseball tournament.
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  Speaker 1: And the kid is a phenomenal right handed pitcher, and
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  Speaker 1: I suppose there was He's like, that's a one point
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  Speaker 1: nine to five, sir. He kept serring me, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: and he kept mamming Michelle, which was great. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: not kidding. The kid was like, yeah, I'm a he's
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  Speaker 1: a one point ninety five throw a shutout over here here.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, this kid's gonna get
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  Speaker 1: drafted at some point. I'm not kidding him. Like to
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  Speaker 1: my daughter, I'm like, we do we want to keep
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  Speaker 1: in touch with him. Huh, the kid's gonna get drafted.
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  Speaker 1: I just know he is. And I'm gonna be able
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  Speaker 1: to say I know that kid is he Is he
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  Speaker 1: from your area or is he nice from it? He's
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  Speaker 1: from like southern He's like from the southern Ish Virginia area.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, disappointed. What a nice kid too. He really was.
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  Speaker 1: He was a real nice kid. But uh, anyway, we're
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  Speaker 1: all gonna maybe gets drafted by the Phillies because we're
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  Speaker 1: also going to talk about this Phillies team what we
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  Speaker 1: want need to see from them during the second half
• 4:51
  Speaker 1: of the season. They're gonna get into some Sixers talk
• 4:54
  Speaker 1: because apparently Joelle embiid Tyres Maxi, Jalen Brown, we're trying
• 4:58
  Speaker 1: to get Lebron James to Philadelphia. It's been reported what
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: we're throwing down on the table this week. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of Eagles talk. Training camp is right around the corner.
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  Speaker 1: What's in store for this Eagles team this upcoming season.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what we're gonna be getting into with our
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  Speaker 1: good friend Lou Debiassi from the Lockdown Eagles podcast. He's
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  Speaker 1: going to be jumping on with us in a bit. So, Eric,
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  Speaker 1: we talked about Len being at the game, but we also,
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  Speaker 1: I know you wanted to mention that July fifteenth when
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  Speaker 1: we're recording this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is long considered the worst day
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  Speaker 2: in US sports, Yes, of the year. It's like it's
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  Speaker 2: kind of renowned for that. Like not a single baseball game,
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  Speaker 2: it's the day after the All Star Game. There's no
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  Speaker 2: there's no NFL camp yet. It's summer league basketball. But
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  Speaker 2: that's you know, that's summer league. You have to be
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  Speaker 2: a real NBA dork to be into that, which I
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  Speaker 2: am and you've been watching. Yeah, hockey's dead in the water.
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  Speaker 2: It is the worst day in sports. But we're here
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  Speaker 2: for you.
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  Speaker 1: People, Yes we are. We're here for you as we
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  Speaker 1: always are. And look, the Philadelphia Phillies organization. Major League
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  Speaker 1: Baseball put on an amazing show in Philadelphia this week,
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  Speaker 1: not only with the All Star Game but the home
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  Speaker 1: run Derby. So let's get into this home the new
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  Speaker 1: home run Derby. I guess you would say these new rules,
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  Speaker 1: my gosh, fantastic. Look if you have I haven't been
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  Speaker 1: watching the home run Derby for the past ten years.
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  Speaker 1: Take you through some stuff the past decade. Basically, a
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  Speaker 1: system that was put into place where you'd have quote outs.
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  Speaker 1: These players would have outs, and then they would also
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  Speaker 1: have different time they'd be on a clock in different
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  Speaker 1: timing aspects of the home run Derby, thirty seconds of
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  Speaker 1: bonus time if you hit two homers more than four
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  Speaker 1: hundred and forty feet so and because of this, players
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  Speaker 1: were just gassed by the final round and the broadcast
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  Speaker 1: would just it was just they couldn't keep up with
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  Speaker 1: the home runs, just frequently having to track fly balls
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  Speaker 1: midway through the air on consecutive homers. It was sloppy.
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  Speaker 1: So basically what they did is they went to this
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  Speaker 1: new format. Each player got twenty swings in the first round,
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  Speaker 1: no matter how many of them were homers, and fifteen
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  Speaker 1: in the subsequent rounds. Every swing mattered, especially at the end,
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  Speaker 1: where players could keep homering as long as they didn't
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  Speaker 1: make an out on their final swing. This new home
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  Speaker 1: run Derby, I thought was fantastic. It was great, not
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  Speaker 1: just from a timing perspective, but from I thought, an
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  Speaker 1: intensity perspective, and we were actually able to see Kyle Schwarber,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Philly's own against Jordan Walker, who ended up winning,
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  Speaker 1: and it was an intense sports moment and that's what
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  Speaker 1: we want to see in sports. This home run derby
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  Speaker 1: did it for me. Man, Yeah, you're right. It wasn't
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  Speaker 1: just fun. It was also competitive.
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  Speaker 2: Like, yes, I think Schwarber and Junior Camonaro is that
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  Speaker 2: how you say his name?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jordan Walker.
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  Speaker 2: The four guys left in the semifinals like they kind.
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  Speaker 1: Of looked tired afterwards.
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  Speaker 2: They did, like it was a lot of pressure, and
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  Speaker 2: I think, like I'm just gonna say it, the Philly
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  Speaker 2: crowd brought it to that thing. They booed the shit
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  Speaker 2: out of all the non Phillies. It was fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, And by the way, people online who don't get
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  Speaker 1: it and don't understand Philly, I mean, it's actually hilarious
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  Speaker 1: to actually read that stuff. Boy man, Really Philly really
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  Speaker 1: stinks when you're booing to players like shut up, would
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  Speaker 1: you understand the city and the culture?
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  Speaker 2: Come on, I think for the most part, people did.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, did you see Ben Rice's interview after afterwards?
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  Speaker 2: He was like, He's like, they don't boot nobody's so yeah,
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  Speaker 2: kind of happy, like it was the perfect The rules
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  Speaker 2: are great, The new rules are fantastic. I did see
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  Speaker 2: some people complain about that, but I'm like, it was
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  Speaker 2: it was kind of boring. Before this, I thought I
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  Speaker 2: thought Netflix did a good job. I thought, uh, the
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  Speaker 2: pre game or the announcement part where they had the
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  Speaker 2: guys from the new show Hawk the Hawk or something, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was horrible. I just that show's gonna suck. Will
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  Speaker 2: Ferrell can be funny, but the other two dorks. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I love Luke Wilson some of his movies, but like
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  Speaker 2: he was not funny. They should just wipe that out
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  Speaker 2: extra don't don't do that again. They have to promote something,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's Netflix. I had to
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  Speaker 2: promote something. It's like, we have we have that many
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  Speaker 2: people who are going to be watching. We got to
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  Speaker 2: promo something.
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  Speaker 1: I get it.
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  Speaker 2: But Will Ferrell's doing every podcast under the sun right now.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that enough? Not our But but the the whole
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  Speaker 1: thing was fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: And we talked about this before the show, and I'll
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  Speaker 2: bring it up now, MLB, you can't keep having Barry
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  Speaker 2: Bonds an a ride on your broadcasts, giving actually really
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  Speaker 2: good insight to these to these events, giving.
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  Speaker 1: A great baseball analysis. Yeah, Barry Bond.
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  Speaker 2: Barry Bonds was explaining Jordan Walker's swing, and he did
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  Speaker 2: it in such a way where I was like, oh
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  Speaker 2: my god, he's right.
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  Speaker 1: But this kid's swing is.
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  Speaker 2: Not like the the post mid twenty tens where every
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  Speaker 2: every kid now is like cock back, like Bryce Harper
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  Speaker 2: in like a spring, you know, and the hands are
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  Speaker 2: cock like like a corkscrew kind of thing. He just
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  Speaker 2: has a nice, big, smooth swing, one that he's not
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  Speaker 2: going to get hurt on probably throughout his career. And
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: Barry Bonds was explaining how his hands are coming there,
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  Speaker 2: and I was just like, wow, this this guy. He
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  Speaker 2: knows baseball obviously, but you can't keep blackballing these people
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  Speaker 2: and then have them on all of your broadcasts. It's
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  Speaker 2: absurd at this point. But I thought it was fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: I thought the actual game the intro was great. Having
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  Speaker 2: the kids ride the bikes onto the field like like
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  Speaker 2: the sandlot was amazing. Having having every player sign the
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  Speaker 2: declaration or having the starter sign it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what a great idea. And then having having
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  Speaker 1: the red carpet.
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  Speaker 2: In the city before the game where all the families
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  Speaker 2: came out and just and again the Philly crowd would
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  Speaker 2: just came through again and may gave HIMLB just like
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  Speaker 2: on a platter, gave him a great product for the
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  Speaker 2: last two days and gave MLB like like a shining
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  Speaker 2: star the last two days, even though we're.
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  Speaker 1: Going to get in some stuff where they probably should
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  Speaker 1: get dinged here. Yeah they had. MLB had had two
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  Speaker 1: good days here. They absolutely did. And look, you know
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: it bothers me when we look at a certain team
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: in sports and it's the Seattle Seahawks and they have
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  Speaker 1: what's known as the twelfth Man, they don't deserve it.
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  Speaker 1: Philly does. We should be like the twelfth Man, not
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  Speaker 1: just in football, but with every single sport. We should.
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  Speaker 1: Philly should really be known as the fans are that
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  Speaker 1: extra quote player or players on the field, or the
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  Speaker 1: alice of the court or whatever. I mean. It is
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  Speaker 1: just such a special city and you see what a
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  Speaker 1: large market like Philly is able to do. And with
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  Speaker 1: the fan base here in the city, the passion what
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  Speaker 1: the fans can do to enhance an event like this.
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  Speaker 1: It's just it. You don't see it hardly anywhere else
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  Speaker 1: in the United States. You really don't.
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  Speaker 2: No, and I don't want to see it. I don't
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: want to see an All Star Game in Tampa, I
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: don't want to see one in Arizona, Miami, Miami. I
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: don't want to see one wherever the hell the A's
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  Speaker 2: play now, Sacramento or some shit like. Just put it
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: in like four or five fan frenzied locations. Yeah, and
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: just leave it at that at this point, because the
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: Philadelphia gets this once every twenty years or something. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I know the last time was ninety six. Yeah that
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  Speaker 2: they I hope they recognize, Like, Okay, that worked, but
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  Speaker 2: we have to be fair to all the other teams.
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  Speaker 1: But no, you don't. You don't have to write right,
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  Speaker 1: Just put it where. Put it where the fans give
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  Speaker 1: a shit. Yep, absolutely, absolutely all right. We'd love to
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  Speaker 1: know what you thought of the home run derby. Really,
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: let us know, leave us a comment. We'd love to
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: hear from you. Shoot us off an email as well.
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  Speaker 1: Philadelphia Sports Table at gmail dot com. And moving along
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  Speaker 1: with some Major League Baseball changes. Just talked about home
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  Speaker 1: run Derby, But the question is did we see the
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  Speaker 1: last Major League Baseball draft of its kind this past week? Now? Look,
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not one that sits around and watches the Major
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: League Baseball Draft. I'm not. I've never been that way.
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  Speaker 1: But we've understood over all these years how important this
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  Speaker 1: draft is to the development of players, to the development
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  Speaker 1: of teams, and what it means to the league overall.
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  Speaker 1: Where are we going with this here on the show?
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  Speaker 1: The fact of the matter is, if Commissioner Rob Manfred
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  Speaker 1: gets his way the MLB draft and what it has been,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be the last of its draft type
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  Speaker 1: before some new rules begin to change. So some background here.
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  Speaker 1: I may be going on for a little bit, but
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  Speaker 1: I want to give some context here. Major League Baseball,
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  Speaker 1: in its players union, they continue to swap proposals ahead
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  Speaker 1: of a near certain lockout this winter. The early proposals
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  Speaker 1: that have been dished around here largely performative and may
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  Speaker 1: not resemble the actual collective bargaining agreement that they inevitably
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  Speaker 1: reach whenever that is. But one of the league's proposals
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  Speaker 1: is just a stark departure from history that it is
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  Speaker 1: going to end up in some way, shape or form
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  Speaker 1: changing the game. And that is the way that the
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  Speaker 1: teams acquire amateur talent versus the draft. So there's going
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  Speaker 1: to be three changes that the league wants. They want
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  Speaker 1: to institute an international draft. They want to shorten the
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  Speaker 1: domestic draft from twenty rounds to twelve and institute hard
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  Speaker 1: bonus slots in both this and the international draft. And
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: then three close the draft to high school prospects, would
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  Speaker 1: require entrance into the draft be two years out from
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  Speaker 1: graduation of college and twenty years old by September in
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  Speaker 1: their draft year. This is going to change the game. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this is going to change the game. The draft, as
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  Speaker 1: we know, used to be forty to fifty rounds. It
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  Speaker 1: was pretty ridiculous, but the league in the Union agreed
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  Speaker 1: to cut it to twenty back in twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 1: so much smaller influx of players made it easier for
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  Speaker 1: the league to cut affiliations with about forty minor league franchises.
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  Speaker 1: That saved money, saved a lot of headaches right before
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  Speaker 1: the minor leaguers ended up unionizing. So what they're doing
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  Speaker 1: here is going to absolutely affect the game of baseball.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to affect the talent. It's going to affect
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  Speaker 1: so much of what the game of baseball is going
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  Speaker 1: to become in the future. And look, maybe maybe folks
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  Speaker 1: don't really care about millionaire ball players losing contract leverage,
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  Speaker 1: but that's probably what's going to inevitably happen with this
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  Speaker 1: new MLB draft. And I don't know, let's get into
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  Speaker 1: it here, Eric, because again, like I said, this is
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  Speaker 1: going to absolutely change the game of baseball in terms
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  Speaker 1: of the talent, talent acquisition, when players begin developing, how
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  Speaker 1: they're even developing through the minor league system, injuries, I
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  Speaker 1: think we're going to end up seeing more and more
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  Speaker 1: of Probably a lot of this I think has to
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  Speaker 1: do with the NIL, even though you know, when you
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: read ESPN's piece on this, Jeff Pissan put up a
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  Speaker 1: very detailed piece about this. I mean he even said
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  Speaker 1: in terms of the NIL that might not be the
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: main reason why, but it's certainly a big part of why.
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  Speaker 1: You see what has happened with college football players and
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  Speaker 1: the use of the NIL, maybe Major League Baseball is
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  Speaker 1: seeing that as a way to alter and change how
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  Speaker 1: they're going about drafting talent. So I don't know, what
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  Speaker 1: are your thoughts here we may in terms of what
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: we may see in the future with regard to the
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  Speaker 1: MLB Draft and how it affects talent.
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  Speaker 2: Well as far as the international draft goes, it's I
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  Speaker 2: kind of I kind of agree with that aspect of
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  Speaker 2: it because I've seen way too many Major League teams
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  Speaker 2: sign like fourteen year old kids from Venezuela. Yeah, which
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  Speaker 2: is kind of insane like that. I've always thought that
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: role was kind of weird. I have no issues with
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  Speaker 2: them kind of changing up the international draft that way,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: although those kids probably could use that money for their
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: families and I the crazy thing is like putting age
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: restrictions on this stuff always causes issues. Like look at
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: look at the NBA. They kids were getting drafted. Kids
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  Speaker 2: were getting drafted at of high school and they made
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  Speaker 2: this role where they made this absurd role honestly because
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: of the outcome is that you know, you have to
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: go to college for one year then we can draft you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that but that one year is a joke.
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  Speaker 1: What is time exactly?
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  Speaker 2: Like Zion Williamson probably went to four classes at Duke
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  Speaker 2: and then they got drafted. Like it's just and that's
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  Speaker 2: kind of that's kind of the entire first round now
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  Speaker 2: of the NBA draft. Now Major League Baseball was kind
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  Speaker 2: of going even further with this.
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  Speaker 1: I I I.
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  Speaker 2: To me, this all reeks of some kind of revenue
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  Speaker 2: issue and in bargaining bargaining chips for the MLB because
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: of the you know, the new contract coming up with
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: the with the Players Association. I'm it almost feels like
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: they're trying to build up I don't even necessarily trying
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: to build up college baseball, whereas I think they're trying to.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: I think they're trying to get those players not through
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: their own system, but through college for two years so
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: they can build their own build up, kind of build
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: up their own brand through NIL money and sponsorships and stuff.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: And then once they get drafted, they're going to be
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: kind of kind of bringing in known quantities already, right,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: like as opposed to a sixteen year old kid who
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: finally sees the field four years later and only like heart,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: you know, hard knows baseball fans know who they are.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think their dream.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Ultimately is to like bring up like the next Bryce
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Harper that we've already been watching in the world, the
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: college world. Series of the past two years, and we
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: can go like, hey, this kid won two straight college
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: World Series, He's already worth three million dollars, already sponsorship
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: by Nike, and we're bringing him right into the major
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: League ball club.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: It.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: I think it's really unfair to the really good seventeen
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: eighteen year olds that could just come right into the league.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Connor Griffin right now, Kevin McGonagall.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Cole Emerson is mentioned in this article like bright, I
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: keep bringing up price Harper, but he was like one
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: of the most electric like fifteen year olds. He was
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: on the cover of Sports Illustrated, and for him for
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: us to have to wait two years at LSU or
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: whatever wherever he goes to see him in the major
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: leagues is just stupid. You're actually hurting your brand keeping
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: those kids down in college.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Right, you're go ahead. I was going to say, I
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: think what made League Baseball's idea is here from a
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: scouting and developmental perspective, it's probably going to save scouting
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: and development costs. You know, it's much easier to cover
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: a few hundred Division one Baseball schools than thousands of
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: high schools. You know, And again, I'll those your jobs yeah, exactly,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: the scouts exactly. It's like moneyball, and he wipes out
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: all the old guys right right, and that as a result,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: like it would this is also going to prevent players
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: like Bryce Harper and and and Connor Griffin from just
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: skyrocketing through the miners and playing in the majors at
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: the age of nineteen. You know. That's but I'm not
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: saying I like this at all. I don't know.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: And it for anyone thinking it's going to build up
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: college baseball, it's not going to. You'll have a better
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: product on the field. But like I'm a pretty big
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: baseball fan. I watched the College World Series and that's it.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I don't watch college baseball for the most part during
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: the year, don't really care, to be honest with you. Yeah,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: I follow prospects, and where are the prospects right now?
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: They're in Single A and Double A. I don't in
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: the golf leagues or whatever.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Like I don't.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: It's not going to make me watch more college baseball.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: I'll just be more aware of some players, probably because
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: it's going to be on its Single A baseball is
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: not on TV, but college baseball is. But I think
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: one thing the Players Association has to push back on
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: big time if this is the route they're going and
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: they're setting hard caps like the NFL did in the draft,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: and and so did the NBA. I understand the hard
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: capping for slotting.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: That makes sense. Most leagues do it. Now.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: If I was a major league team, I'd be pissed
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: because I do like to like move my money around.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Like Kevin McGonagall, they were able to push him more money,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: and it's that makes sense, But it's just that's just
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: kind of what all sports are doing. They have to
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: renegotiate the arbitration rules if they're going to go this
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: route with the draft, right, because if you can only draft,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: if you can only draft twenty two year olds, if
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: they had go through two years of college, it'd be
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty one years old by the time they get
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: up to the majors. This is this is already adding
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: two years to their career, right right.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: And I know they're good. I know they're like, well
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: they'll make nil money. Well what if they don't? You
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: don't know that, right? That's true? That is it? That
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: is a that is like a what's it like? That's
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: like a fantasy.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I don't even know how NL works, right, I understand
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: like Caleb Williams being like ten million dollars in college.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was the first time.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, that doesn't seem right, right, right, Whereas
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: if you draft the kid when he's eighteen year out
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: of high school, you can give him a million bucks
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: and he's comfortable and he can just get the best,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: the best baseball training in the world at the league level.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to get that in college.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: And now you're pushing off the ability for him to
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: make money. Maybe not your your top ten picks, but
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: like you're like your next ten picks, You're you're you're
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: kind of hurting them financially. And then also you're adding
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: they're only going to make the major leagues at like
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: say twenty three to twenty four years old, and if
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: they keep the same arbitration rules, like they're going to
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: have them under control until like thirty years old.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, probably these aren't facts. I'm just kind
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: of throwing on them.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: But like that two year thing added with the current
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: arbitration rules sounds like a disaster for the players, and
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: I really hope they push back when they finally go
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: to the table. I'm sure they'll fold because they always do.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they do.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Everyone out there, go out and watch. Cody Bellinger was
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: interviewed during All Star weekend and he was asked about
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: the new new contract coming up in Major League Baseball
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Player Association and he was just like, the owners are billionaires.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: They're going to do what the hell they want. Yeah,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: like they have all the money, yes, And I was like, finally,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: some's he has years in the league, so he probably
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: feels like he can just talk openly.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But like he.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Really was, like, they are the scumbags with the money.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: What are we going to do? Like that's kind of how.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: He I was like, right on socialist, yes, but I.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Think that aspect of it, they really have to figure
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: out some kind of compromise because that's gonna put such
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: a free agency is going to be a disaster.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: It's gonna mess free agency up. Like I said, it's
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: just going to change the game. It's going to change
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: the game of baseball.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: And look, and so there's a lot of assumptions based
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: on college baseball baseball, which is like an unknown it
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: really is. I know, I know it's big in this country,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: but it's not that big. It's nowhere near college football
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: and basketball. It just sounds like a bad idea and
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: it's going to go against the player's best interest.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, leave us a comment below. If you're watching on YouTube,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: what do you think about this new Major League Baseball
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: proposal to change the draft. We'd love to hear from you.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: And with that being said, we're going to take a
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: break and when we get back some Phillies talk, Sixers talk,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Eagles talk. Stick with us. We'll be right back. All right,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: we are back, and now we got to get into
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: some Phillies talk. Quick recap of the Phillies draft. It's
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: gonna be a real quick I think. Dear God. Look
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: they with they didn't have a first round pick, so
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: they were picking round two, pick number sixty four, outfielder
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Cayden Boggin Pole I believe is his name. He's got
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: a guy look reading up on him. He's got some
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: raw power from Missouri State. He actually broke former Phillies
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: legend Ryan Howard's home run record of twenty back in
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. He's got he's got incredible size at
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: the plate. He's just as big as Ryan Howard. Yeah, yeah, massive,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: six foot six, two hundred and forty five pounds, but
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: needs to work on his consistency at the plate. From
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: everything that I have read, Round three pick number one
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: hundred and the Phillies they were going. They were going
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: big time at the top of the well, I say,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: at the top of the draft. Round three, round four
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: they were picking up pictures, especially right handed pitchers. Ruger
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Rioas I think, I don't even know if I'm saying
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: that right Texha. Yeah, he's from Texas, right handed, right
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: handed pitcher, relies on a fastball that can touch about
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: ninety eight miles per hour. Older player at the age
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: of twenty three. And then in the fourth round pick
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: one eight, the Phillies took another righty in Devon Shearon.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: He can actually hit about one hundred miles per hour.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: He's from LSU. He lacks a lot of control though.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Round four again picked one thirty five, just a few
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: after the Devon Shearon pick Jackson Hunt Jackson Jackson Jelkin. Third,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: he's he's a right hander as well from Kentucky. Six
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: foot seven guy six foot seven, dances around ninety eight
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: miles per hour. Apparently he dropped in the draft. Due
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: to character concerns. I don't know what that is, but
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: my god, I know only six to seven. These bullying
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: people around character turns at age like eighteen? Scary? Yeah,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: is it gonna get better? Look, teenagers can be jerks sometimes.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, Bubby, you didn't mention the round round eleven
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: pick pick three thirty nine of the draft.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Oh I must have missed it. Yeah, Drew Titsworth.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Oh that's.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Yes. Come on, God, I hope he gets to the majors. Please,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I'm getting his jersey, Drew Tittsworth. Yes, how can I
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: forget him? Look, we're almost fifty folks. Yeah, exactly, Jesus,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I don't even know where to go with this bit
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: here at this point.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Well, did you talk about the their first pick, Tyler Spangler?
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I didn't talk about the Tyler Spangler. Yes, I went
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: right into round two. You know you were riding around,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: You were right in round three?
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're actually first pick with Tyler Spangler thirty sixth
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: overall pick. That's right. Yeah, and probably got really good value,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: which you know you and I love good value in
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: good When we walked when we watched the draft together, folks,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: we always say good value after every pick. That's great value,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: folks for hours, because that's what all the idiots on
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: TV say.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, but they did appear to get some good value
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: here because he was going to be a top ten
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: twelve pick in this draft if he hadn't missed his
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: entire senior year with a bad back.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Does it make me nervous that they drafted an athletic
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: shortstop with a bad back because we already have one, right, Yes, but.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Values value.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: The second round was a great spot for him, and
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: he looked really healthy at his tryout at whatever the
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: tryout is for the draft. I watched a couple of
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: YouTube videos. I really I like his swing. It's again,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: it's not like Jordan Walker. It's it's not your typical swing.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: It's not he doesn't He only takes like a little
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: dippy step back with his right foot. He's left handed
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: and he throws right. But yeah, he only takes like
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: a little tippy toe step with his front foot and
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: then then barrels into the ball. He doesn't take that
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: huge drop, but it's a really smooth swing.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: He's six', three he's really.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Athletic Major League baseball needs to chill. Out with the,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: comparisons by.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: The, way they really do the NBA's maybe he's pretty
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: good at, This like i've i've i've never seen them
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: like a guy get drafted and Like Michael, jordan like,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: no let's take it down a, notch like Maybe durant
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: that kind of, thing, Right but BUT I i SAW
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: i saw comparisons to Cal Ripken. Jr for this, Guy like,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: stop let's come, on, man NOW i Saw Corey. Seeger
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: that makes more. Sense Cal Rippan.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Jr all Time hall Of, famer he was at The
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: All Star game if he saw, Him, yeah he looks.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Great but, uh, like let's let's chill, out, Folks like it's,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: SERIOUSLY i love it all, Right let's move on to
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: some more like Actual phillies. Talk not necessarily the draft,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: here but what do we expect to see from The
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: phillies and what do we want to see from them
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: during the second half of the. SEASON i think at
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: this point in the, Season eric the bullpen is pretty.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Disappointing we thought they were going to be such a
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: strength coming into this, season and at first they were
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the. Season now things are just a.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Mess Jose alvarado is a. Mess, Thankfully doron is just
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: that solid closer that you, want but really the bullpen
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: has just been a mess and we just need to
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: see more. Consistency of course There i'm, look there are
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: people who are saying heading into The All star, break
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: The phillies were kind of getting. Lucky they were putting
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: themselves in positions and simply by the luck of the
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: draw coming out on, top mainly because Of doran and
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: him being able to make the saves that he's been
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: able to make so. FAR i just think consistency from
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: the bullpen and being able TO i keep going back to,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: it But i'm. Serious being able to play small ball
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: every now and, AGAIN i think can do this team.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: WELL a team that is consistently just on the lookout
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: for home runs all the, time playing some small ball
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: is not a bad way during the second half of
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: the season to play. Baseball it's not because you just
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: want to get runners on base and get the get
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: those runners in scoring. Position and, yes they do have
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: trouble and they do have issues with ri, sps but
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: IT'S i think playing small ball is part of what's
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: going to need to happen for this team during the
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: second half of the season if they're going to be
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: successful and really start or maybe trying to Overtake atlanta.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Too SO i don't know what are your thoughts here
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: on what we need to see from.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Them that's not going to. Happen it's not not with this, team.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: MAN i know we've seen it the past couple of.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Years they get to the playoffs and they did the
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: well run the home run well runs dry and they
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: falter that this team just doesn't play small ball and
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: they have some components they could do it this, year
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: like they Have Justin Crawford stott could do, it like
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: they do have some players that could do it as
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: opposed to where they just had mashers Like cassianos was
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: not a small ball.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Guy Justin crawford is.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah and he's he's been rock solid and he's
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: been actually heating up going into the second. Half So
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: i'm really looking forward to watching. Him the bullpens a.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: DISASTER i, MEAN I i almost Think duran should Have
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: dern should have handed in His All star acceptance and been,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: LIKE i CAN'T i can't represent this. Ship but he's
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: been he's been. Dynamite, yeah they're they're gonna they're gonna
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: have to find a fifth starter at some. Point they
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: can't keep trotting wrangle out.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: There that's a.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Mess but thank God lozardo's stepping up like they THEY
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: i think the starting pitching, rotation they just need to
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: get some depth for the second half and then they
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: should be good for the playoffs with just a four
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: for four starters. Going and they got to find another outfield.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Bat you, KNOW i think it's it's probably time to
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: admit that your your farm system ain't the. Strongest oh,
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: yeah and it's second worst In Major League, baseball second
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: worst In Major League. Baseball and and they have they've
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: besides Justin, crawford no one has really has done anything
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: for the.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Team so, like just just just.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Just drain, it drain it for whatever players you can
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: get at this, point because you have an older team like,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: that what's the point of holding, On like we're building
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: for the, future, Dude your team average age is like thirty.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Two for past, sakes Like Trey, Turner Tree, turner my,
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: god he better pick it. Up he's he's going to
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: start hitting my top least ten Favorite phillies of all.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Time i'm getting sick of that.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Guy, yeah but they got to get like like most
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: like almost every team that's, Contending like they got to
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: get another bat in the, outfield bullpen, help and they
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: got to find a fifth, starter hoping they can find that.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Somehow the trade deadlines come up in like what three. Weeks,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Yep dombrowski is not afraid to make, moves SO i
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: hope he depletes the system like as much as he
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: can until IT'S i, mean If, painter you got to Move,
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: painter go ahead and Move. Painter i'm okay with. That
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: it's not a big deal as long as you get
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: you got but to your window, Here maybe.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: That one hurts, man because we've been it's like we've
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: been waiting so many. Years it feels like we've been
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: waiting a decade for this freaking. Guy, okay and when
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: he finally, Arrives toro is forty one years. Old, Yeah
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: harper's thirty, Nine like what so what the hell is the?
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Point, LIKE i, know.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Like The Red sox ARE i, MEAN i think they're
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: playing well, recently but there's teams that are just right
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: for the, picking like like The tigers are completely done this,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Year like they have players you could go after like
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: this there's plenty of teams that are gonna be. Sellers and
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: The phillies got to make a move because they've made
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: such a run With mattingly and they're only three games.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Out, yeah R islands are right in their.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Asses so, yeah you got to make moves before those teams,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: do and make make the right. Moves and The braves
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: and The marlins have like minor league help coming up
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: probably for the second half of.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: This, Yeah, phillies don't they got shit down?
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: There, Right there's no one gonna come up and be a, surprise,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: yeah for a starting, pitcher bullten or.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Outfield so you gotta make you gotta do, something, absolutely all,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Right we're gonna take a, break. Folks when we get.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Back sixers, Talk eagles. Talk stick with, us all, right
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: let's get into some seventy Six ers offseason. Talk, honestly
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: after after the, draft excuse, me after The Jalen brown,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: ACQUISITION i, thought all, right, well things are probably gonna
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: settle down with This sixers. Team, no not, necessarily because
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: it's been reported That Joel, Embiid Tyres, maxi And Jalen
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: brown are apparently all trying to Recruit Lebron james To. Philly,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Eric i'll say, this when the Whole lebron To philly
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: thing was, starting that discourse online and it's it's just it's, like, okay,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: people you're being. Stupid there is a real shot That
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: lebron could come To philadelphia to end to finish out
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: his career amazingly. Enough and, look of course he's not
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: the Same lebron that he, Was but what could this
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: actually do and Would lebron actually listen To Tyres, maasy
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: listen To joe El, embiid listen To Jalen brown to,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: say you know, what this is the best place for.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: You don't go To Golden state because of, this this and,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: this come here because the story is going to be
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: a better story for you in your. CAREER i think
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: that's more. Compelling And i'm probably probably biased because of
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: A sixers fan, here BUT I i don't. KNOW i
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: think it'd BE i think it'd be fantastic AND i
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: think it'd make the season so incredibly.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Interesting, yeah when the rumor, STARTED i really did think
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: when they, STARTED i think he's actually gonna come To.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Philly like it just it almost makes sense because number,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: ONE i don't know if you saw the big board
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: ON espn When Rich paul was talking to them and
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: he was, like this is these are the teams that
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: are actually in play, here And maxi had a start
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: next to his. Name he was the only player had
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: to start because he's a clutch. Client So Rich paul
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: And lebron are always going for clutch AND i Think
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: maxi has a huge saying. This he's, young he's. Fun
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: he Calls lebron his big brother and beads everyone gets
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: along with. Him B Jalen brown's a buddy Of lebron's as.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Well and as far as narratives, go because at this
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: point For lebron's career he has the most points in,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: history he has four. Titles i'm not sure if he
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: really cares about a fifth. Title so basically for, him
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: it's all narrative or finishing out his career being the.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Story of the.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: League right, yeah, Really so like The cavaliers, thing there's
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: only really three teams in my, opinion The, cavaliers he returns,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: home finishes out as his last. Season he's The he's
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: he's the god Of, ohio which he already, is by the,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: way is when he won that title in twenty. Sixteen
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: it was like it was it was, done it was. Cemented,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: YES i think going back there and playing with a
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Fat James harden and like not a very good. Team like,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: YEAH i mean they're they're a good, team BUT i
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: just don't understand that, One like you already have the,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Crown Ohio, Crown like what's the point the other? One Golden.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: State the narratives are kind of already, written like it
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: would be The Senior, tour one last, season one go
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: around with with With steph and one more one more time,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: around like to try and win a title For Golden
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: state because this is kind of like there probably last. Year,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah and financially it'd probably be a good move for
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: him as. Well he LEFT la he made a ton
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: of money, there a lot of business. Maneuvers Golden state
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: would be interesting for him personally financially because such a
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: he's it's he'd be right in the heart of the tech,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: center AND i mean he could really plan his flag
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: there and invest in not that he already probably, hasn't
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: but like to actually be there all the time in
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: that in that market would probably help him financially and
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: it would be a good story Nationally NOW i am
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: biased about The philly, story BUT.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I think him coming to.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: A title starved city Like, philly The sixers haven't won
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: since eighty, three and to be paired up With Jalen,
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: brown which was the biggest surprise trade since The luca.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Trade for him to come in on top of that
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: story and beads always a, STORY maxi AND vj are
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: so goddamn, Exciting and just to slot him into the
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: four spot and he'd be an instant starter and and
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: he would play really well with.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Those two guards and With Jalen.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: BROWN i just think would be basketball wise and JUST
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: nba story, wise would just be more interesting for an
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: everyday fan like, me as opposed to The Golden state
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: thing where it's Like Stephan lebron are coming to, town
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: but it's like.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: But they're forty years, old like right.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Right if he comes To, philly it's like he could
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: he could be a hero In. Philadelia like he actually could.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: BE i know some People pelly hate him because He's.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Lebron WHATEVER I i never, Have i'm pretty sure those
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: people would turn really. Quick, yes the first thirty point
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: ten rebound game he has and he looks Like lebron In.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: NOVEMBER i honestly think it's it's it's either got to
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Be Golden state Or.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Philly AND i just Think philly would actually.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Be more of an interesting story for THE nba and
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: for the everyday type OF nba.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: FANS i think because Of edgecom And, maxie because they're,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: young you know WHAT i, mean that story is so
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: much more, compelling like you, said than two older guys
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: And steph And. Lebron it's, like, okay, yeah all, right
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: we get it type of. Thing but with the two
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: younger guys who are still developing their game And maxie getting,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: ready LIKE i, mean essentially in his prime as, well,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: man it'd be it'd be fucking.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Phenomenal and it'd be five titles in four different. Cities yeah,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: yeah across the. Country that'd be.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Amazing like that would put him like that would get
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: him up to The Jordan kobe like he alreadys. Up
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: he's already up, there but that fifth title in another,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: city star for a championship because it's been so, long
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: would absolutely like cement the narrative.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Like he is one of the, best maybe the. Best
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: if you're younger than, me you might think he's the
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: best player of all. Time, yeah but, LIKE i just
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: think that is the best pathway to ending of his.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Career and you already have enough. Money you're gonna go
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: To Golden state and build AN ai, company, right, like
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: we already have a bunch of SHITTY ai companies that
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: aren't going. Anywhere come To philly win a. Title believe,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: me we. Will we will love, You, yes, Absolutely there's
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: nothing you could do to hurt. Us we've already been. Hurt, Yes,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: like just come. Play if we don't, win THAT'S i
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: don't think anyone will blame, him, right they'll go out on.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Top LIKE i JUST i feel like, it, honestly would
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: be the best. DECISION i am biased as, shit BUT i.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: DO i do like the idea of. HIM i love.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: IT i love it, TOO i really. Do, man great
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: way to end this first part of the show before
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: we head to the interview on what we're thrown down
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: on the. Table, buddy you got any final thoughts? Here?
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah none for. Me i'm. Tired, Yes i'm tired. Too
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: we're Gonna i'll Be i'll be fifteen a. Month, Jeff
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: oh my, god that's. Right he start doing this show
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: at like six. O'clock afternoons at dinner at five point,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: thirty show at, six bed at. Seven, yes all, right,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Buddy i'm gonna let you, go, folks were gonna take
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: a break when we get. Back eagles talk with our
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Friend Lou diviossi From Locked On eagles stick with us
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: and now on the table, right let's dive into. This
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia eagles off season training camp is right around the
• 42:55
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• 43:06
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• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Eagles Lou, debassi my. Friend always great to talk to.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: You you've been jumping on the show for so many, years,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Man thanks so much for taking the. TIME i appreciate.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: It, yeah, Always.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: Jeff i've said it to you off, air but WHEN
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: i first got on social media when it was Still,
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: twitter back in LIKE i don't, know twenty, ten twenty,
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: eleven you guys one of the first Like philadelphia PODCASTS
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: i ever subscribed to. You SO i always love coming.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: On it's a great time having, you AND i love
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: how we're always able to get into real depth and
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: substantive depth when it comes to This Philadelphia eagles. Team,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: yes we're still in the off season right. Now training
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: camp is right around the, corner BUT i wanted to
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: before we start diving into the team a little bit
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: what we're going to be seeing this coming regular season
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: from The Philadelphia. Eagles we're gonna talk About Locked on
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: for a, Minute locked On eagles. Specifically LIKE i, Said
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: i've been a subscriber for a, while but you have
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: a new, addition, essentially this new series that you're putting
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: out AND i really wanted to talk about it BECAUSE
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: i freaking enjoyed the hell out of it this past.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Week it's Called Bleeding. Green The Deep. Cuts you drop
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: your first episode again this past week here took us
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: back to The Carson wentz days during his time as,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: quarterback his challenges and the team's challenges with that twenty nineteen,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: season them needing to win out the remainder of that
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: regular season to get to the, playoffs all the injuries
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: that occurred with that. TEAM i feel like it's right
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: in the back of my, Mind it'll always be. There
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: and specifically how the receiver Position Greg ward you had
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: mentioned and he was a main topic within that particular
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: episode that you kicked Off Bleeding green The Deep. Cuts
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: so can you tell us about this new series that
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: you're doing and really what you hope to do with
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: it in the.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: Future, yeah first, OFF i appreciate you listening to.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: It you, know it's hard when you do a podcast
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: every single, Day, yeah to get those side projects up and.
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: Running AND i come from a radio Back SO i
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: went to school for. JOURNALISM i worked AT am news
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: radio stations and you, know kind of had those LIKE
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: mpr kind of, background AND i liked audio narrative kind
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: of formats.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: And it's tough to do that.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: Nowadays SO i just while we're in the dead zone
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: of the offseason and there's not Much eagles content to
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: get into about the current, TEAM i thought now it
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: would be a good time to launch this IDEA i
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: had a couple of years ago where you, know we
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: always like to go back into history and you, know
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: relive the most famous moments In eagles, history Right Super
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: bowl fifty, two fifty, seven fifty, nine you look at
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: the early two thousands runs and you know there's all
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: these like very famous moments we always like to go back.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: To But i've always been somebody that kind of loves
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: the obscure, seasons the really underrated stories in franchise. History
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: SO i THOUGHT i would do a series of, like
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: at the, time really, intriguing fascinating stories that maybe because
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: it didn't end in a championship that year or because you,
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: know that certain, position we got the next star right
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: after this, Guy, yeah we kind of just like forget about.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: It SO i kind of wanted to bring that back
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: up to the. Surface and everybody knows, ME i was
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: A Carson wentz guy same early on in the.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Podcast still defend him to this.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: Day and that twenty nineteen, season to, me when you
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: remove The Super bowl, years was one of the most,
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: enjoyable fascinating seasons That i've ever recovered and watched as
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: an analyst and a. Fan so you, know that was
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: just the first, one AND i just it's Something i've
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: been passionate about for a couple of. Years So i'm
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: excited to get that.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Going something that you were able to do with this
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: new series, Again Folks Bleeding, green the deep cuts over
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: it locked On, eagles is the emotional aspects of what
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: that season was like you said didn't lead to a
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: championship didn't lead to a long playoff run by any,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: stretch but the emotions that we as a fan base
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: felt we were able TO i was able to relive that,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: honestly wow while listening to. It and we do forget
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: those moments because almost every, year in any, way shape or,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: form there are emotional moments Within Eagles, nation within this fan.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Base you captured it, well and it's it's that's one
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: emotional moment in time In eagles history That i'll always.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: Remember it's one of the most important seasons in franchise.
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: History where to think about, it, right BECAUSE i Think
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: Howie roseman learned that, YEAR i have to support my
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: quarterback better LIKE i cannot just you, know and he did.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: Try he brought back To Sean, jackson he Drafted Miles
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: sanders j J. R thiega Whiteside re signed Al Sean Jeffrey,
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: like it wasn't an effort, thing but he's, LIKE i
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: gotta do better execution wise of supporting my. Quarterback so
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: that was a big reason you Got DeVante smith AND
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: Aj brown in the. Future, yeah but also If Carson
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: wentz doesn't get cheap shotted in that playoff game By Jadavion. Clowney,
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: yeah you never Draft Jalen hurts and you never get
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: this golden era you've had After SO i just, think,
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: again like you, said during the year of such an emotional,
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: rollercoaster and it was fun to watch that team battle
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: adversity again and. Again but at the end of the day,
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: too you look back at those events had to happen
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: to get where we're at. Now so that's WHY i
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: wanted to start with that. One and, yeah, again appreciate
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: everybody for checking it.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Out, YEAH i can't wait to hear more of The
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Bleeding green The Deep cuts episodes in the coming weeks
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: and months for. Sure, Here so let's now get into
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: This bird season training camp right around the. CORNER i should,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: say the season's not here, yet but training camp certainly
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: is almost. Here let's talk about what we're gonna need
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: to see from the relationship between New eagles offensive Coordinator
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: Sean manyon and the franchise Quarterback Jalen. Hurts really been
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: given a lot of thought to, this lou over these
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: past few, weeks And i've been thinking to, myself you,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: know what kind of change should we really expect with
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: This eagles offense this, year and how is that inevitably
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: going to translate over to How Jalen hurts will have
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: to develop with this new offensive, leadership because, yes he's
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: a veteran in this, league but there are certain developmental
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: aspects of his game that's gonna need to. Happen With
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Sean mannon, here what are your?
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: Thoughts, YEAH i don't think this is going to be
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: like in twenty twenty four when they tried to make
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: this offense different schematically in that, first you, Know september
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: stretch of the season With Kellen moore as the offensive
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: coordinator and play. Caller it wasn't working and they kind
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: of threw it out the, window went back to this
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: run first, approach and obviously for that season it worked
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: he won a. Championship but this YEAR i don't, Know
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: like if they have kind of a up and down
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: stretch of the first month and a half of the
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: season with the passing, GAME i don't think it's gonna
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: be the last time where they say let's get rid
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: of Everything manny and was. Doing we're going back to
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: The Sirianni Hurtz rpo run, game centric deep ball or
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: nothing kind of. OFFENSE i really think they're gonna make
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: him grow and really force him to stay in those
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: uncomfortable areas like throwing over the middle of the, field
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: growing with, anticipation you. KNOW i think being quicker as a.
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: Passer they're not going to just go back after six
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: weeks and, say all, right he's not, comfortable we're getting
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: rid of. This SO i think thing's gonna have to
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: be a lot, quicker and you're gonna have to use
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: areas of the field that you really haven't over these
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: last six to seven. Years and that middle of the
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: field especially is the, big you know portion that we're talking. About,
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: yeah they went out. There their first two draft picks
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: were all about committing to this. Change when you look
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: at the style of player Like Mackay lemon And Eli
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: stowers are as. Rookies this was in the name of
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: Helping jalen. Grow so was bringing in man and SO
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: i think they're really committed to. This and that doesn't
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: mean the run games still won't be the identity of this,
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: team but they really want to get the passing game
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: better than it's been the last two regular.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Seasons Lo i've been dreaming of mesh concepts.
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: Is dreaming of a screen pass that, Works, JEFF i
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: mean quick. PASSING i think this is the Biggest we
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: can talk all about the middle of the field and
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: the kind of routes that this offense should. Run are
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: you gonna be in, shotgun under, center prestat. Motion all
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: of this is very important to the. Conversation but the
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: thing that drove me the most nuts last year was
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: they just didn't know how to get easy. Yards, like,
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: hey a corner is lining up ten fifteen yards off the. Ball,
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: YES i just remember Watching Tom bradbeck in the. Day
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: just point to his, Receiver just throw a quick five yard,
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: curl even if it wasn't the, play and now you're
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: above the. STICKS i just think last, year if they
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: weren't running the, football they had no idea how to
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: get easy. Yards that's just so important in the passing,
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: game and we just haven't had.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: It.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, look you talk about the rushing, attack and it
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: appears that the offensive line is going to be coming
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: into camp rather, Healthy thank. Goodness it's going to be
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: interesting to see How Saquon barkley in this running back
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: room really tries to elevate the rushing game this. Season,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: again a healthy offensive line means that this team is
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: going to be nasty running the. Ball you mentioned that
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: is their. Identity we believe it's going to continue to
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: be the identity of This eagles. Offense But i'm just,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: wondering how about we see the rushing attack change or
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: alter this year Under Shawn, manyon will it at?
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: ALL i do think that it's going to look. Different
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: Lane johnson has kind of talked about. THIS i think
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: Even Jordan, maya A lota And Saquon barkley have discussed
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: how this run game will be. Different it's going to
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: be a lot more outside zone than inside, run a
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: lot of one cut. Running it's going to be a
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: lot from under. Center AND i think it actually Benefits
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: it doesn't Benefit Jalen hurts his mobility of kind of
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: keeping these defenders in conflict with is he going.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: To pull the football or.
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: Not but For Saquon barkley And Tank, bigsby when you
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: look at twenty twenty five when they ran the, best
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: it was those reps when they were under. Center AND
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: i think it's also going to take less pressure or
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: it's gonna take more pressure off the shoulders of your.
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: Tackles Lane johnson and May alatta a lot of the.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: Time those guys are on. Islands lane talked about that
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: this offseason where he's gonna get a lot more help this.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: Year you're gonna have tight ends having to commit to
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: block a lot. More and SO i think the run game,
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: again LIKE i, said they're committing to change in the passing,
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: Game BUT i don't think suddenly they're gonna be a
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: team that throws forty plus times a game and that's
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: how you're winning like in twenty. Seventeen, yeah If Saquon
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: barkley in this offensive line looked like they did in
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty, four that's still gonna be the featured part
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: of this. Unit And i'm, projecting if everybody's, healthy that
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: that they're closer to the twenty twenty four team running
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: wise than twenty twenty.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: Five.
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: YEAH i don't know if they're gonna be historically great
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: like that, again BUT i think there's a middle ground
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: between the last two seasons we've seen and it will
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: be good enough where that's still an identity of your football.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Team, Yeah, igat like you, said an identity of what
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: this team. Is that's how they have been. Successful AND
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: i would imagine we're gonna be seeing a lot more
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: of that given the injury. Bug hopefully the injury bug
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: stays away from this team for. Sure so, look we
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: are going to take a, break. Folks when we get,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: back we've got More eagles. Talk we're specifically gonna be
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: diving into the. Defense stick, Around we'll be right. Back all,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Right we're back with our, Buddy Lou debiassi from The
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: Locked On eagles. PODCAST i subscribe On Apple. Podcasts check
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: out what they're doing over on YouTube as, well The
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Locked On, network great great. Network we love what they're.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Doing and now i'd love to get into This eagles
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: defense with you as we're looking towards training camp, Here, Lou,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: LOOK i do have some concerns about the pass, rush
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: AND i guess this overall lack of consistency that we've
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: seen over the past, year and Specifically Nolan Smith Jylex.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Hunt they are good pass, rushers don't get me wrong out, there.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: FOLKS i love both of these. GUYS i think they are,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: productive but there's a consistency factor here that is kind
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: of raised my. EYEBROW i, mean they're, look they're not
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: bums at. All there are no bums on this team at.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: All but, again there's a certain level of consistency THAT
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: i think the pass rush needs to get to to
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: help this defense. Out and Then Jonathan, grenard we, know
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: how does heat actually fit into this picture as? Well
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: there seems to be some unanswered questions really heading into camp,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: Here lou And i'm just, wondering how are you feeling
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: about the pass rush and how consistent it may or
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: may not be this coming.
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: Season i'm actually really excited about. IT i THINK i
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: feel a lot better heading into this year on paper
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: what this edge group looks like then last, year because
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: they didn't Have Jalen. Phillips at the start of last,
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: season they were projecting after an incredible playoff run From
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: Nolan smith when he broke the single season you, know
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: playoff season franchise record for sacks in a single, run
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: and Jaloks hunt really came on at the end of the.
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: Year they were expecting those guys to be the top
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: two players in your. Rotation it didn't work out that,
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: way so you had to bring In Jalen. PHILLIPS i
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: Think grenard is as good As, phillips if not, better
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: and you got them for. Cheaper SO i think The
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: eagles are like, you where they Like Hunting's, smith they
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: believe they can eventually become a number one guy in this,
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: rotation but they're neither one is there. Yet they have
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: flashed that, potential, yeah twenty twenty, four And jayoks hunted
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: as well in twenty twenty, five but neither put it
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: together for a full year year after year Like grenard.
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: HAS i Mean, GRENARD i think it has been one
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: of the more underrated edge rushers of the last like
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: five to six. Years SO i think when you look
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: at those, three that's a really strong. Rotation And i'm
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: higher Than arnold A bikiti than a lot of. PEOPLE
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: i think he's only scratching the surface of what he could.
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: Become he was top ten in a lot of pass
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: rush metrics last, year including pass rush win rate in
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: the second half of the. Season him is your fourth,
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: guy like and if maybe you bring Back Brandon graham
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: still had some juice last year as an interior. Rusher
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: he had three sacks in just a couple. GAMES i
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: like it a lot better than last year where they
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: Needed uce And Oja lare And Zadarius smith to help
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: out all these, veterans they're kind of just figuring out
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: on the. Fly, yeah this year feels like they have
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: a much better.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Plan all, Right, well, look there's one PLAYER i want
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: to get into on this defense THAT i think is
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: going to be one of the biggest cogs in terms
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: of how offenses are going to need to scheme around,
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: him and that Is Cooper. Dejene as he continues to
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: develop in this league and on This eagles team as
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: part of this, defense he really is that chess piece
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: for the. Defense as he's heading into his third, year
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: seems they're going to be asking him to play basically
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: wherever he is needed with regard to an end game
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: decision making. Basis we know from the reports that defensive
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: coaching staff had him cross training at safety during the.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: Offseason i'm just not sure what to think of this
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: given his absolute dominance as a slot corner of the
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: past two. Seasons, LOU i don't know what are your
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: thoughts here On Cooper dejene's just evolving role on this.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: TEAM i think he can do whatever you ask him to.
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: Do if you ask him going to be the emergency,
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: QUARTERBACK i think he could probably win you a game or.
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: Two he's just The Swiss Army knight of this, team,
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: Right so DO i THINK i Think Cooper degen could
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: be a star, safety kind of like A Kyle hamilton
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: or you, know you look At brian Branch over IN
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: uh In. Detroit like this player you can ask to
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: do everything what you used to ask Of Malcolm. Jenkins,
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: yeah kind of just be the just match up nightmare on. Defense,
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: absolutely AND i think The eagles want to explore that
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: at a part time level now that they have that
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: flexibility because they Signed Wrek. Wollan they don't Need Cooper
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: degen to play outside corner and base and then kick
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: into the slot in. Nickel now they can ask him
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: to do more When wollan is out. There but at
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: the same, time with that being, SAID i don't know
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: IF i want him to ever move full time to
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: safety BECAUSE i think in the modern DAY nfl that's the. Way,
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: yeah slot corner is almost as important as outside. CORNER
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: a lot of offenses their best player plays. INSIDE i
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: mean they The cowboys MOVE Cd lamb inside all the.
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: TIME jsn And, SEATTLE i Mean Puka nakua with The,
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: Rams like so many, teams their best player plays in the.
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: Slot SO i think you want to have that elite
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: slot corner more so than like a second ELITE.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: Si that's just my.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: Opinion, yeah AND i take it you, agree, RIGHT i
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: mean absolutely not what it used to. Be and the
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: slot normally used to have a very limited corner in
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: there with a certain skill. Set but, nowadays like you
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: kind of, have you kind of have to have a
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: complete player there because on, offense it's becoming that. Too
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: both slot roles on off the defense were part time
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: positions led by. Guys it only had a couple of,
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: strengths but clear weaknesses that the slot hid from, you, right,
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: absolutely not to get off on a tangent about, this
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: BUT i JUST i think it's very valuable in THE nfl,
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: now very complete players play in the.
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: Slot.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: ABSOLUTELY i don't think The eagles win their Last Super
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: bowl Without Cooper. DEGENE i, MEAN i simplistic and elementary.
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: Thing what happened when they Benched, no you're, Right look
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: what happened when they Benched Avonte. Maddox you know after
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: the bye week That cleveland, game did you kick things
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: off and the defense was completely?
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Different it was absolutely completely. Different so it's gonna be
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: really interesting to see Where Cooper degene like where where
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: he's lining. Up, MOSTLY i part of me hopes that
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: he kind of just stays in the, slot that he's
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: not necessarily looking to be transformed into a.
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: Safety we play a least adequately for, That, remaine BECAUSE
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: i don't know who else the slot corner would.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: Be then that's nothing.
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: RIGHT i think the combination Of dejeene the slot and
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: apposite safety is a better combo than Like degene at
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: safety and Then Michael carter in the.
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: SLOT i DON'T i. THINK i think the first is the.
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: ALTERNATIVE i.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: AGREE i agree, Completely So, lou BEFORE i let you,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: GO i love talking special teams on the. Podcast always
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: have such an important part of the game of. Football
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: it always gets shoved to the. Side people don't want
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: to talk about, kickers, punters the return. Game but, LOOK
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: i want to ask you about the kicker position on this.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Team Jake elliott left a lot of points on the
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: field over the past couple, seasons and, again kickers are
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: just such an important and critical part of the game of.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Football but he has. Struggled jake has absolutely, struggled AND
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: i think The eagles may need to keep their options.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Open in my, opinion will some competition potentially Help Jake
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: elliet during CAMP i don't know where do you see
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: his leg and this kicking game going this.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: Season it's tough Because elliott's legend, here, Right he's been
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: your kicker since twenty. Seventeen he's made some of the
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: biggest kicks in franchise. History he's won two. Rings but
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: And i'll give him credit in twenty twenty, four he
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: really bounced back in the playoffs during The Super bowl.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: Runs but at the same, time with that being, said
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: it's two regular seasons in a row now WHERE i
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: am nervous every time he goes out. There and it
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: used to BE i feel like in his, Prime Jake
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: elliot would always randomly miss a kick that's under fifty, yards,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: right but you always knew if it was fifty plus,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: yards he's nailing. It he was one of the best
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: long kick field goal kickers in THE. Nfl and now
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: like those aren't consistent. Either it really hasn't been since
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty three from a consistency. Standpoint so the problem is,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: contractually like you're kind of on the books with this.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: Guy you're gonna bring him back this. YEAR i was
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: at The combine press conference With Howie. Roseman he said
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: he believes In Jake elliott's still they are big fans
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: of him inside the.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: Build But i'm with.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: You, Look i'm not scouring the free agent market for.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: KICKERS i don't know who's out there that should be the, competition,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: Right BUT i do believe you got to add somebody.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: ELSE i just if you're If Jake elliott's your only
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: plan again this, year, YEAH i don't. Know LIKE i,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: think like you, know we saw last year how automatic
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: like big kicks are in the league, now and, yeah
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: The eagles didn't really have. That SO i think you're
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: at a huge disadvantage if he continues to miss, those
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: because THE nfl just feels like everybody can boot a
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: sixty plus yarder. Nowadays, Right that's what twenty twenty five felt,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: like AND i felt like The eagles were the only
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: team in the league that couldn't do.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: That. Absolutely oh, man what a great. CONVERSATION i can't.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: WAIT i want to talk to you again at some.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Point maybe we can get together during training camp or
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: something like that to really dive into some. Stuff so, again,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: folks he's LOU dbiasi from The Locked On eagles. Podcast
• 1:01:49
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• 1:01:52
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• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: Lou, yeah so we're At Lockdown birds and at dbasse
• 1:01:57
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• 1:02:00
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• 1:02:02
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• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: yeah during training camp it's almost. HERE i can't wait
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: for some football, talk So i'll definitely be back.
• 1:02:09
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• 1:02:12
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