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Ep. 361 - We Are Still Here (2015) · Frightmares

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  Speaker 1: The following podcast will contain spoilers, tangents, hot takes, and
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  Speaker 1: excessive foul language. Viewer discretion is advised enjoy the show.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Frightmar's podcast. I'm your host Austin Proctor
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  Speaker 2: and joining me today for episode three sixty one is
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  Speaker 2: my good friend Derek Ferrera. How are we doing?
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  Speaker 1: Doing great? Great? Thank you woo.
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  Speaker 2: Today, on another installment of Hantuary Manner, we're discussing our
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  Speaker 2: wild card pick. We are still here from twenty fifteen,
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  Speaker 2: a movie that shows us just what happens when a
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  Speaker 2: haunted house gets incredibly angry. And yeah, it's it's very bizarre,
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  Speaker 2: very fun. So the wild card, as I mentioned on
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  Speaker 2: the last episode, is I'm gonna try to keep the
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  Speaker 2: rating is gonna be between a two point four and
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  Speaker 2: a two point nine because typically those are wild card movies.
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  Speaker 2: You never know what you're gonna get with a rating
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  Speaker 2: like that on letterbox. So this one had a two
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  Speaker 2: point nine. Barely snuck this one in. But here we are,
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  Speaker 2: and let's see where this one lands on the nightmare index.
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  Speaker 2: Fuck is full screen? There's full screen? Okay, cold open.
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  Speaker 2: What have we been watching, Derek? Anything good? Anything, bad
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  Speaker 2: hit me with some of the you know, if you've
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  Speaker 2: had time recently, I know we're both very busy, but
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  Speaker 2: have you what have you been watching?
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  Speaker 1: We've actually managed to sneak in a few movies. We
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  Speaker 1: watched both the Influencer movies.
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  Speaker 2: Oh had you had you never seen the first one?
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  Speaker 1: We had not seen the first one?
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  Speaker 2: No, what do you think?
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  Speaker 1: Honestly I like the sequel better, but they were both
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  Speaker 1: solid okay. And then we we snuck in A Working
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  Speaker 1: Man with Jason Stathumb, which you know, it's action and
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  Speaker 1: there's still lots of blood and guts. And then last
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  Speaker 1: night we watched Ted Bunny. Got a screener for that.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just say, review is coming and it's not going
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  Speaker 1: to be wonderful.
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  Speaker 2: It's always awkward when you know it hasn't happened a
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  Speaker 2: lot yet. A lot of the trailer, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the screeners I get are decent movies, but they you know.
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  Speaker 2: I just got one recently for a found footage E
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  Speaker 2: Valentine's Day horror movie that's coming out, and I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I have to say good things about this. I will
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  Speaker 2: take I will, you know, mention my problems. But it's
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  Speaker 2: hard to get a movie that's not necessarily a great
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  Speaker 2: movie and not you know, I don't want to trash
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  Speaker 2: the film. That's not what I'm here to do. So
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  Speaker 2: I will pick out all of the good things that
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  Speaker 2: I liked.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's the thing that we're good things. And being
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  Speaker 1: a filmmaker myself, I can sit here and be like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you know you worked with what you had. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean all your budget went to getting Son of a
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  Speaker 1: Bitch is a veteran horror actor in it, and now
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  Speaker 1: I'm forgetting who it was, but yeah, that's where the
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  Speaker 1: budget went.
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  Speaker 2: Ted. Bunny, Let's see who the the oh? D Wallace?
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  Speaker 2: D Wallace, God, what won't that lady?
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  Speaker 1: Do?
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  Speaker 2: I love her? Two pieces? Uh so? I funny enough,
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  Speaker 2: had interviewed the direct of Influencer Curtis David Harder or
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  Speaker 2: David Curtis Harder. He's a three namer, but we talked
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  Speaker 2: about influencers. I believe it wasn't not last year, but
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  Speaker 2: the year before, and I am so excited. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: get to check out influencers yet, but the general consensus
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  Speaker 2: from what I've seen online is that it's better than
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  Speaker 2: the first one, and I fucking loved the first one.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't even expecting a sequel, so that's on my
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  Speaker 2: list to check out because Gabby and I very much
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  Speaker 2: enjoyed the first one, so I'm glad to know that
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  Speaker 2: you enjoyed it and enjoyed the sequel, So that makes
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  Speaker 2: me very excited to check it out.
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  Speaker 1: Go back. I don't remember you doing an episode with him.
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  Speaker 2: So it's technically so it's I snuck it in there, right.
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  Speaker 2: So it was when we were doing Pride Month, I
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  Speaker 2: think it was two years ago. He was on there
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  Speaker 2: and we were talking about Spiral, which is the movie
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  Speaker 2: he did before Influencer, which features a gay couple. So
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  Speaker 2: we did that for Pride Month because it was, you
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  Speaker 2: know that we were trying to do inclusive horror, and
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  Speaker 2: then we kind of snu snuck Influencers in there, so
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  Speaker 2: that one, Yeah, it's it's it's in there, but it's
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  Speaker 2: not titled Influencer.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, okay.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, So I have been saving this review for you,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm very excited to talk about Primate because it's
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  Speaker 2: a movie that I I mean, I heard about it
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  Speaker 2: late last year and all I knew is that it
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  Speaker 2: was a horror movie involving a monkey. I'm in, like,
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  Speaker 2: that's all the information I need. Sometimes simplicity is the best,
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  Speaker 2: and in this case it was. It is eighty nine
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  Speaker 2: minutes of pure insanity. I will quote Corey by saying
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  Speaker 2: that chimp is an absolute fucking demon. And I had
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  Speaker 2: so much more fun with this than I thought I was.
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  Speaker 2: I also mentioned to Corey that it kind of taps
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  Speaker 2: into a real fear that like, if chimps wanted to
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  Speaker 2: just do that one day, they could. There's there fucking
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  Speaker 2: strong a chimp could literally rip you limb from limb
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  Speaker 2: if they so decided to do so. So that's already
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  Speaker 2: kind of like a real like a realistic premise. So
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  Speaker 2: you know, he's got rabies and he's just gooshen teenagers
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  Speaker 2: for ninety minutes. It's fucking great. I loved it so much.
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  Speaker 1: It was so much fun. It was such a such
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  Speaker 1: a throwback slasher like they even have like a very
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  Speaker 1: eighties title card when that pops up, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: I see a lot of the complaints that I saw
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  Speaker 1: against it were people being like, oh, the acting was
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  Speaker 1: bat Who is this a killer chimp movie? And to
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  Speaker 1: be fair, I went into this having no idea that
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  Speaker 1: it was going to be this over the top violent movie.
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  Speaker 1: I was just it's gonna be like, you know, you'll
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  Speaker 1: see like this here, this there, But like I was
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  Speaker 1: genuinely scared, Like I don't want to get into spoilers,
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  Speaker 1: but he comes down lights.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there were. There was some pretty good jump scares.
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  Speaker 2: There was some really good gore. One scene in particular
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  Speaker 2: involving something being ripped off. I won't say what, but
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  Speaker 2: god damn that movie was so fun and the fact
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  Speaker 2: that it was literally a guy in a suit, no
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  Speaker 2: cg involved. It was a guy in a fucking chimpsuit.
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  Speaker 2: I think there may have been some digital alteration for
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  Speaker 2: face movements. I'm sure, yeah, but like, nonetheless, it was
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  Speaker 2: a dude and you could you could kind of tell.
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  Speaker 2: And that's okay with me because it kind of led
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  Speaker 2: into that eighties vibe I was already getting here, like
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  Speaker 2: this is a dude in a suit. I'm okay with that.
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  Speaker 2: I ended up giving it a four point five out
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  Speaker 2: of five four stars out of the gate just because
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  Speaker 2: I liked it, but I gave it an extra half
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  Speaker 2: star because it just exceeded my expectations much. Funny enough
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  Speaker 2: much like The Monkey from last year that I also
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  Speaker 2: gave four and a half stars primates. While it was
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  Speaker 2: I do think it was genuinely good. This is solely
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  Speaker 2: like a how much fun I had with the movie rating,
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  Speaker 2: So it gets a four point five out of five
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  Speaker 2: something I will instant. There's a steel book coming out
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  Speaker 2: for it, I believe sometime this year, which I've already
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  Speaker 2: pre ordered. It might just be a four K. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, but it's dude, it was so good. Plus
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  Speaker 2: that eighties kind of John Carpenter esque Cynthy score going on.
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  Speaker 2: Did you notice that.
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  Speaker 1: So fucking good? That score was just and to think
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  Speaker 1: like I looked after the fact and went, oh, it's
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  Speaker 1: the same guy who directed everybody's most hated Residentnebel movie,
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  Speaker 1: which I actually prefer over all the other Residentel movies.
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  Speaker 1: What I digress.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, the man's had a wild career. He also
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  Speaker 2: did forty seven Meters Down as well, and a couple
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  Speaker 2: other hit or miss movies. But this one coming out
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  Speaker 2: of the gate for my first well, I guess, did
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  Speaker 2: I see Bone Temple? No? No, no, I saw Primate first
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  Speaker 2: for the first like theatrical experience of the year. Off
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  Speaker 2: to a killer start, and then Bone Temple was two
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  Speaker 2: days later, another killer movie, and it's January. January is
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  Speaker 2: not the greatest time for movies in general, but the
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  Speaker 2: years off to such a great start. I'm a little worried,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm also very excited because some of the trailers
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  Speaker 2: I've seen for things like Lee Cronin's The Mummy, The
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  Speaker 2: Mortuary Assistant, Diabolic, all these movies coming out. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a banger year for That's
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  Speaker 2: just me, though I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I totally agree, because then you got the trailer for Whistle,
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  Speaker 1: which apparently is severe everything. Yes, first rating, and it's
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  Speaker 1: got Nick Frost.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, there's actually they're doing a kind of like
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  Speaker 2: not like a sneak peak, but it's a special event
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  Speaker 2: screening on Wednesday at my theater. I'm going. I told
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  Speaker 2: my wife. I was like, do you you want to
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  Speaker 2: see this one? She was like, I can wait, And Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going because usually I get one night out a
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  Speaker 2: week to to go watch a movie. So I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: go see that Wednesday. Very excited because I only know
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  Speaker 2: it's about a n Aztec deathway and that's again all
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  Speaker 2: the information I need. Uh, that's it. So it's been
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  Speaker 2: uh oh, go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: I was just gonna say I am excited because our
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  Speaker 1: local theater, which only usually gets big releases, is getting
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  Speaker 1: Iron Lung. So we are going to see that Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh, what's iron Lung.
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  Speaker 1: It's the Marketplier movie, the YouTuber Marketplier. Oh that's right.
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  Speaker 1: I forgot all self produced and all that shit, and
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  Speaker 1: then it had such a big calling for it that
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  Speaker 1: it ended up expanding into okay, many a theaters.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. I did also see a new movie on Shutter
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  Speaker 2: that was technically released in twenty twenty five, but it
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  Speaker 2: is a new release for us here in the States,
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  Speaker 2: and I just wanted to put it out there. It's
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  Speaker 2: called Mother of Flies and it's got a pretty solid rating.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds really good. I think it's about wedges and shit.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna check that out as soon as I can,
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  Speaker 2: but I just wanted to let anybody else know out there.
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  Speaker 2: Nically it says twenty twenty five, but the internet release
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  Speaker 2: for the US is this year, so it counts the
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  Speaker 2: only other thing I watched for what's for the Cult
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  Speaker 2: Movie Challenge? This was week three. Let me look at
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  Speaker 2: my review here Week four David Lynch week. I have
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  Speaker 2: been going through his movies chronologically except for one diversion
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  Speaker 2: when I saw Mulholland Drive for a podcast. This movie,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's David Lynch. I don't know. I haven't
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  Speaker 2: seen a bad movie by him, but this was one
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  Speaker 2: of his wilder movies in terms of how the story progresses,
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  Speaker 2: because it's a very linear story until you get to
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  Speaker 2: about the third act and then it gets all you know,
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  Speaker 2: David Lynchy and mind fucky. But it is one of
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  Speaker 2: the smoothest transitions into madness I think I may have
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  Speaker 2: ever seen, and by the end of it like it
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  Speaker 2: had just an ending that blew my brain to pieces.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to check out my review for them.
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  Speaker 2: I am reviewing all of the Cult Movie Challenge titles
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  Speaker 2: in like full length, very long reviews, just like I
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  Speaker 2: did for Ooptober, So go check that out if you
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  Speaker 2: want to get my full thoughts. But gave that one
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  Speaker 2: a four and a half. And we'll continue with my
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  Speaker 2: David Lynch filmography here soon. Oh and no spoilers on
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  Speaker 2: this one, but I did did get a screener for Dracula,
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  Speaker 2: the new one for this year and despite my problems
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  Speaker 2: with Luke Bissan and his weirdness. You can go google
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  Speaker 2: what all that's about? This was And for people listening,
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  Speaker 2: you know how I am with vampire movies. I really
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  Speaker 2: like this one, so that tells me that most people
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  Speaker 2: probably won't. This movie was so visually fucking stunning, and
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  Speaker 2: Caleb Landry Jones as Dracula was one of the performances
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  Speaker 2: of the year already, and Christoph Waltz as well. That
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  Speaker 2: one's coming out February sixth. I believe two hours and
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  Speaker 2: ten minutes a little long, but no time wasted. I
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  Speaker 2: think that's all. I have watched a lot of shit
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  Speaker 2: this week. I think that's all I have for recently.
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  Speaker 2: Watch anything else you wanted to mention before we move
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  Speaker 2: on here. Okay, we'll say.
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  Speaker 1: That I'm hearing great things about Dracula. I've had a
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  Speaker 1: friend who already saw it three times.
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  Speaker 2: Jesus, Well, they do give you like five times, at
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  Speaker 2: least the screeners I get you can view it five times.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I fucking watch it three times. It was
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  Speaker 2: just it was so good. So I can't wait to
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  Speaker 2: see that one. See how that one does in theaters.
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  Speaker 2: Let's roll on to the body count, fucking screaming in
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  Speaker 2: your ears. This is We Are Still Here from twenty fifteen,
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  Speaker 2: released on June fifth as a limited theatrical run of
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  Speaker 2: that year in the US. We have not rated, as
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  Speaker 2: is typical with indie movies. No sex and nudity, severe
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  Speaker 2: violence and gore, moderate profanity, mild alcohol, drugs and smoking,
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  Speaker 2: and moderate frightening and intense scenes. I beg to differ.
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  Speaker 2: I would say it's severe, but that's just me. Runtime
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  Speaker 2: of an hour and twenty four minutes eighty eighty four minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Movie Waste Zero Time listed as a horror mystery directed
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  Speaker 2: by a man named Ted ge Ogehan, who also directed
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  Speaker 2: Brooklyn four five, which is a Shutter original I do believe,
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  Speaker 2: and that movie is also brilliant. Fucking love that movie.
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  Speaker 2: It's also written by the same man he wrote Satanic
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  Speaker 2: Panic from twenty nineteen I Believe and also Brooklyn four
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  Speaker 2: to five. Please excuse me while I butcher This name
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  Speaker 2: entirely composed by Woescheck Goldsweski, who also composed Night of
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  Speaker 2: the Wolf also known as Late Phases and Beyond the Gates,
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  Speaker 2: also starring a Barbara Crampton. Cinematography by Karim Hussein, who
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  Speaker 2: also did the cinematography for Hobo with a Shotgun and
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  Speaker 2: then moved on to Possessor Wild Difference in movies. There
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  Speaker 2: also did Orphan, First Kill, and Infinity Pool. We have
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  Speaker 2: edited by Aaron Crozier. He edited Frankenstein's Army, Knight of
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  Speaker 2: the Wolf or Late Phases and Jacob's Wife, another movie
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  Speaker 2: starring Barbara Crampton, and then it was also edited by
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  Speaker 2: someone else named Josh Ethier who edited Leatherface, Christmas, Bloody
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  Speaker 2: Christmas and Companion. So a lot of talented people behind
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  Speaker 2: the scenes of this movie starring Andrew Sinsinig as Paul Sachetti.
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  Speaker 2: He has one hundred and six credits, but it's all
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  Speaker 2: like you know, a doctor or guy in background, So,
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  Speaker 2: I mean he does a lot of work, but this
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  Speaker 2: was his most known for. And then of course we
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  Speaker 2: have Barbara Crampton as Anne Sacchetti, who everybody should know.
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  Speaker 2: She was on an episode that we did Chopping Mall
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  Speaker 2: and she played Susie Lynn in that, but she's been
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  Speaker 2: in from beyond Reanimator fucking she does everything much much
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  Speaker 2: like Dee Wallace. Then we have Larry Fessenden as Jacob Lewis.
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  Speaker 2: He's also pretty prolific director. But he was in Your
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  Speaker 2: Next as Eric Harson. He's the guy that gets killed
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  Speaker 2: in the beginning of that movie. So spoilers, but not really.
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  Speaker 2: Then we have Lisa Marieve as may Lewis. She was
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  Speaker 2: in Sleepy Hollow as Lady Crane and this is probably
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  Speaker 2: my favorite credit of the entire cast.
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  Speaker 1: Right here.
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  Speaker 2: We have Monty Markham as Dave McCabe, who was also
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  Speaker 2: in forty four episodes of Baywatch as Captain Don Thorpe
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  Speaker 2: fucking Wild. And then we have Suzanne Gibney is Maddie,
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  Speaker 2: who's also done a lot of work for Star Trek
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  Speaker 2: various iterations of that show. Estimated budget of NA, worldwide
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  Speaker 2: box office growth of NA. This was shot in Palmirie, Palmira,
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  Speaker 2: New York. And funny enough, the restaurant that they went
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  Speaker 2: to Buffalo Bills. That is the real name of that
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  Speaker 2: restaurant that they shot at and that's hilarious, which is
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  Speaker 2: in Shortsville, New York. Love that you can watch us
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  Speaker 2: on AMC plus, Fandango at home, Hoopla Plex and tub
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  Speaker 2: All for streaming. And then we have movies that came
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  Speaker 2: out around the same time of this is the Crazy List, Avengers,
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  Speaker 2: Age of Ultron, mad Max, Fury Road, Pitch Perfect two,
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  Speaker 2: The Terrible Poltergeist remake in Citi Is, Chapter three, Jurassic World,
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  Speaker 2: Inside Out, Ted two, Magic Mike XXL, Terminator, Genesis, and
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  Speaker 2: The Gallows. IMDb summary. Here we have, in the cold,
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  Speaker 2: wintery fields of New England, a lonely old house wakes
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  Speaker 2: up every thirty years and demands a sacrifice. Let's hit
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  Speaker 2: it with the autopsy, all right, eh, Eric? All right, Derek,
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  Speaker 2: give me some overall thoughts on we are still here.
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  Speaker 1: For a movie that I didn't expect much from. I
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  Speaker 1: was blown the fuck away.
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  Speaker 2: Plain and simple.
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  Speaker 1: Right, I mean it doesn't Yeah, that's my overall thought
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  Speaker 1: on this. It was just it was great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I had definitely seen or seen the movie. I
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  Speaker 2: had seen the poster or known the title. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: had seen it around, but I never actually got to it.
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  Speaker 2: But my overall thoughts are much like you for a
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  Speaker 2: movie that I don't really ever hear mentioned, I think
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  Speaker 2: this is a fucking slept on and totally underrated, especially
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  Speaker 2: with a two point nine out of five on Letterbox Movie.
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  Speaker 2: Because this did so many things I never expected it
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  Speaker 2: to do, completely haunting imagery, impressive score, a very again
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  Speaker 2: much like you know Blue Velvet that I was talking
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  Speaker 2: about earlier, a very good slip just into insanity. I
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  Speaker 2: just totally blown away by this movie. And that's why
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  Speaker 2: I'm picking these movies that are rated specifically between two
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  Speaker 2: point four and two point nine for wild Cards, because
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  Speaker 2: some are gonna hit, some are gonna not. This movie
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  Speaker 2: fucking hit at least for me. Oh yeah, okay, all right,
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  Speaker 2: so we're on the same page with that. Perfect I
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  Speaker 2: really love the set up an execution for this because
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  Speaker 2: it's just these very cold and dark snow you know,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: shots of like this snowy landscape. It just made me
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: feel like it was gonna be a cold movie, not
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: in terms of just temperature but tone. I felt like
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: they were trying to convey a tone with those opening scenes,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: like this is just gonna be a dark, kind of
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: sad movie. I don't know what were the vibes that
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: you got right off the bat with just kind of
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: the how they not even before even anybody shows up,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: just a cold, wintry scenes. Did it give you a vibe?
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it gave that total dull you know, there's not
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: gonna be like much like comedic pieces to this whatever.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: And of course it doesn't help that we're sitting here
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: watching it while we get hit by a huge fucking snowstorm.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Like this is perfect, what great timing.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: So it's like it's dreary outside the there's no sun
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: coming into my living room while we're watching it. Perfect
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: time atmosphere, perfect atmosphere for it.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, yeah, it seems like the the
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: ideal atmosphere to watch a movie like this. So you're
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: introduced to Paul and Anne and see and this is
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: what I wasn't sure of at first, because they're driving
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: to this I thought it was a vacation home or
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I didn't know what it was at first, but I
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: guess they moved from New York to bump fuck Egypt
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: in the middle of nowhere. And Anne is just visibly upset,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: which I read that. I was like, Okay, something happened.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure what happened. She's clearly upset by something.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's the move. I don't know
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: if it was because of the move. So she is
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: very kind of stoic as to where her husband is.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say upbeat, but he's a little more peppy,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: if if that's the right word. So the just the
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: opening tone of this movie, I was like, this is
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: gonna be this is not gonna be good. It's not
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: gonna be a good time in the sense of like
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: the feeling that this movie's gonna elicit from me. I
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: was like, this is gonna be a rough watch, but
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: I'm excited to see where exactly it goes. And the
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: stagnant shots too, of the empty rooms in the home,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: they just kind of go from room to room and
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: it's like a stagnant shot. It's like this this house
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: is just ripped right out of the seventies. I swear,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they were trying to go I don't.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I don't think they really set a time that was
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: set because all of the cars are also older. The
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: home seems older, but they didn't establish a time at
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: least I don't see.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: No, there was no time establishment, So I assumed it
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: was supposed to be around the seventies, late seventies, early eighties,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: just from the aesthetic.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, I guess it had to have been,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: because they left a note on their door for the
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: kids when they were showing up, and then you know,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: when they get back, the note is still there because
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: we'll get to it. So I don't think, yeah, I don't.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I don't think there was any cell phones because they
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: would have just texted them. You know that you don't
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: just leave a note on a door when we have
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: cell phones. So yeah, now that I'm thinking about it,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: and of course I wasn't looking for cell phones, but
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I do believe it's supposed to be set kind of
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: in the seventies or eighties kind of vibe, because that's that's,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: you know, the vibe. I god. And then the title
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: card comes up pretty quick, but it's it's a moment
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: when a picture falls on the table and it's that
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: picture that Anne said her son never liked Bobby because
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: something about he looked weird in that photo. So you
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: get the title card, you know, we are still here.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: And I thought that was a really good setup. It
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: set the movie up tonally very well. And I knew
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: what to expect in one aspect, but not what I got.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: I was not.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Expecting, no, no, not at all.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: The way this movie unfolds was just so chaotic, and
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: not in a bad way, but just in my Oh. Okay,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Like there's a lot of shocking, shocking moments in this movie.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: A couple times where I uh said what the fuck
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: and sat up in my seat because I was just
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: I was just not prepared at all. So, like I
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: told you, I got a feeling that, you know, something
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: was going on with and I figured someone had died
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: or something. And it turns out even because it wasn't
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: part of the summary, so I knew this story would
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: reveal itself over time. I was assuming maybe their kid died,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: because you know, she goes that down into the basement,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: finds the baseball glove and then the baseball rolls over, which,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: by the way, I don't know. I don't know how
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: you felt about that basement stuff of nightmares. There's no
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: no floor, it's all bear uh u. Zero out of
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: ten would not recommend No.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't recommend it either. But I'm gonna let you
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: in a little secret here, Austin. I am from New England.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: And guess what a lot of basements look like. That
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: my mom's old house. That was her basement. You went
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: down dirt foundation, furnace in the corner. That's there's a
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: lot of houses around here like that.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Wow. See And and every time my experiences with basements
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: were up in Michigan at my aunt's house and she had,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: you know, the basement was fully dry walled carpet, and
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: I was like, why are people afraid of bass I
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: slept down there, It's like, this is great, there's a
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: TV down here. It's cozy. And then I see basements
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: like this and it's like, Nope, no, I don't. I
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: would have to do something with that down there. I
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: could never go down there. But that's funny that you
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: first hand experience with basements like that horrifying. Though. I
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: don't think she even reacted to the ball, because didn't
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: the ball like fall down the stairs or something like
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: that or rolled up behind her and she was just like, eh, yeah, sure,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: that's fine.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. There wasn't much reaction to like the oh, that's
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: weird that the baseball came out of no.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Out of nowhere and I found a baseball glove down here,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: so yeah. Once once that, once I saw that scene,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I was like, all right, I'm assuming a kid died,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: and I thought it was going to be a child
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: based on the glove, but it turns out he was.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: He was at least a college student because Harry and
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: his girlfriend. Harry was Bobby's roommate, and they come out
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: there don't last long at all. Jesus Christy. I didn't
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: even put them in the credits because I was there
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: in the movie for five minutes before they get completely
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: just ripped the pieces so of something. That was also
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: great because I do love a good just lower dump
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: when you get all the information that you need. And
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: it's like fifteen minutes into the movie when their neighbors
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: come over, which I believe were Kat and Dave, who
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: get I don't did you did you get a vibe
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: from them right off the bat before he even started talking.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: They knocked at the door and I was like, hmmm,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: I don't like these people. They say they're their neighbors,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: but I didn't see a house like on either side.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's another fact for you, dude. In New England,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: sometimes a neighbor is like a mile down the fucking road.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, we're neighbors. Oh, come in and have
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: a drink. And then this man just goes into this
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: the darkest shit imaginable. The house that they're living is
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: built in eighteen fifty nine serving as a funeral parlor,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: and it was owned by a family called the Dagmars.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: And then, and this is the bit that really hooked
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: me into the movie too, is when, you know, a
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: few months after they were in business, word got out
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: that they were selling bodies and burying empty coffins. People
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: were saying that they were selling corpses to this university
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: and even well he called them, you know, he said
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: the Orientals. I was like, that's not really politically correct,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: but I'm assuming. I'm assuming it's the seventies or eighties.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: And then they were turning them in to chop suey.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: But the you know, so the town ran him out,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: his wife and his little girl, and then his family
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: couldn't stand the look of him after that, so he
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: drank himself to death and killed himself a year later.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but that Lord dump, I
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: was like, okay, I was like, that's some pretty solid
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: storytelling right there. I was in at that moment. How
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: did you feel about that? Getting that exposition right there?
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, it was perfect. I you know, sometimes it flows
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: with the movie and I get it, But there is
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: nothing better than a this is what's going on, and
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: this is everything you're gonna need to know to follow
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: this movie right off the.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Rip, right exactly, which it did feel a little convenient,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: but at the same time it was absolutely necessary because
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: they were just having a chit chat and then he
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: just goes down the rabbit hole and even after he
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: was done talking, he said, oh boy, I kind of
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: dampened the mood there. Yeah, buddy, yeah, I thought we
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: were just having whiskey.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: And I mean, I suppose in a way he's trying
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: to portray himself as a nice neighbor, correct, But when
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: more of the lore comes out, it's like, wait, why
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: would you have told them that if you want them
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: to stay there? Like Na, these people are gonna be
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: non believers, I can Lord, dump all this shit. They're
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: not leaving this fucking house.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Well, And I think it's funny because Anne's or Ant's wife,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Anne's husband, Paul he is. So this is where the
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: movie kind of leans into some of the maybe not
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: necessarily haunted house tropes, but just horror movie tropes where
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: the husband is very dismissive about the other worldly things.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: He is not a believer in the afterlife or ghosts
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: or any of that shit. So it was perfect for
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: him to hear because Paul's just like, Okay, crazy man,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: I mean whatever. But Anne, of course she's not psychic
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: in any way, but she mentioned later on in the
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: movie you know she just felt Bobby's presence there, so
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: she's definitely the believer. Paul is not a very common
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: trope in movies, but it felt it was necessary for
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: this because it wouldn't make sense to feel Bobby's spirit
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: and a place that he had never been, not saying
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: it's outside the realm of possibility, but when you're moving
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: from New York to a small town. I was like,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: I don't think you're feeling Bobby's spirit. I think someone
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: is if I think these spirits are fucking with you
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: or trying to warn you or something. And I'm very
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: excited to talk about that ending. But one of the
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: things that did not sit right with me, especially because
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: it was the tagline of the movie, is when Dave
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: looks at them before leaving and he's like, this family
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: or this house needs a family, and this line specifically,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: we haven't had fresh souls in over thirty years. Come again,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, fresh fresh souls. You're just gonna drop that
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: and then leave thanks a lot, and no one batted
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: an eye at it, because when you're in that moment,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: it's like, I don't think I would take that as weird,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: but in retrospect I would have been, hm, fresh souls.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: That sounds strange to say to someone who just moved
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: into a house with this tragic background. But of course
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Paul is just like YEO, whatever, dude, and I think
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: that's why Anne is so interested in what's going on
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: in the house. But then you get that note which
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Kat slipped to Ann, I believe, and it said like this,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: you know this house needs a family get out. And
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: at that moment, for me personally, after hearing the horrific
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: shit that went down, I would have left. But that's
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: just me. You know, I'm not in a movie. I'm
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: not here to progress a plot, but I would have
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: That's enough information for me. Because Kat, if you watched him,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: watched her watching Dave tell story, she's very uncomfortable about
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: the whole situation. I don't know if you picked up
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: on that.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the total trope of the husband gives
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: all the lord dump while she sits there going, no,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: you're gonna kill these poor people, and I'm not gonna
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: I'm I can't speak up.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she can't speak up because later on in the movie,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: she gets she gets stabbed and is bleeding out and
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: still calls Barbara Crampton's character on the phone. Oh they
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: were using landlines. This definitely had to be like seventies
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: or eighties now that I'm thinking about that, because she
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: was on the floor with a handheld that was corded
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: to the wall. So yeah, she doesn't make it because
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure at this point she's probably been resisting
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: this is just speculation on my part, but resisting what
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Paul's been doing, because you know, Paul and the ghost
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: of Dagmar have this agreement that they will feed them
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: so they can stay content. Because the later Lord dump,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: which was even crazier, is that if the house does
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: not get a family once every thirty years, it'll just
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: start fucking going out into the town and kill all
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: the people in the town. It is a very vengeful house.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Very welcome to Derry actually, now that you say that, right,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: it really is. I thought that was so interesting though,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: because when we're kind of bouncing around just a little bit,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: but I feel like it's relevant when Harry and his
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: girlfriend showed up and Harry, you know, he gets completely
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: annihilated in the basement. So his girlfriend goes to leave,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: and she's in the car driving down the road, and
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: then a ghost pops up behind her and still gets her.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I thought, okay, well, all right, typically ghosts are limited
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: to the area of which they died. But then the
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: explanation later on that the ghosts will go further out
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: if they're not getting what they need. I was like,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: all right, well then that that kind of stays within
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: the lore there. So I really liked the storytelling, and
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: to me, it felt pretty fresh for a haunted house movie.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: It's not like the house is haunted, uky spooky get out. Nah,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: this house wants to eat you and consume you, very
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: much like House su that we did last week, you know,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: except that the house isn't literally eating them. It's the
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: spirits in there kind of consuming them. I don't know.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: I felt like that was kind of a fresh take
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: for a haunted house movie. How did you feel about
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: the like the overall overall story of what we were given.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I absolutely agree, because I went in this
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: expecting a total like conjuring or you know, anything like
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: that vein where you get the the spirits and the
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: whatever in the background and then we get all on
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: fucking carnage and like, you like the whole like the
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: ghost being able to be like, nah, fuck you, I'm
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: in the backseat of the car. I followed you. That
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: was that was great.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. It's so it kind of let like
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: leaned into some tropes but then subverted other tropes, especially
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: with the ghosts being able to make actual contact with
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: them and rip them apart. That was usually that doesn't
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: happen and goes usually like the ghosts can you know,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: touch people and possess people, but they're straight up ripping
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: people apart, like fucking Harry's girlfriend gets a hand through
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: her stomach while she's driving.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: And they were able to manipulate the house because like
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: at one point, that dude's walking up the stairs and
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: then he just starts sinking into them like we're just
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: taking you through the fucking stairs. Now you don't.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were able to do so much, and I thought, man,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: this is a very fresh, fresh take on the kind
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: of haunted house thing that we've that we've you know,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: seen and done many times before. So I I really
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: enjoyed that aspect of it because it did feel so fresh. Also,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: the look of the ghosts themselves were incredible. They you know,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: they'd be in the background, and this is where I
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: say they lean into the tropes, because there were plenty
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: of shots where ghosts, you know, the demons or ghosts whatever,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: we're in the background, but they were they were like
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: fully black and you could kind of see their eyes
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: glowing just a little bit. And it's because we learned
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: later on that I guess there was a fire and
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: I can't remember, but they were all they all had
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: this charred, burned look to them. Again, very original for
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: ghost movies. Like usually ghosts are kind of just you know,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: they've got they're just kind of gross looking. But these
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: people look like they had been lit on fire recently,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: and there's even kind of like ashes coming off of
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: them at some point and they're crackling. I was like, man,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: this is so much better than I expected it to be.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: And I also love the fact that Barbara Crampton was
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: a star in this because there's a lot of times
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: where she's just kind of in a movie, much like
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: d Wallace, they're just in a movie. For a second
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: and then they leave. So seeing Barbara Crampton star in
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: a more recent movie, you know, eleven years ago, I
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: thought was great.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, you know, you usually with them. And
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: I just learned this term off Reddit not too long ago.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Somebody called it a geezer teaser, where you pay an
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: older icon just so you can use their name. They're
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: in it for five minutes and then they disappear, and
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I was like, geezer teaser. I love it. I am
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: going to hold on to that saying, and.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: It's accurate because God, I mean, Dee Wallace shows up
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: at the beginning of Jeepers Creepers Reborn. She's just in
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: the beginning of that movie and then she's gone, like,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: it's just it's funny. I love that. I mean, if
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: I were these people who were established in acting and
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: had been acting since the eighties and someone was like, hey,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: I want you to be in this movie for five sure,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: fuck it, it's just give me whatever, you know, just
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: get pay me.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Some probably didn't need like a few grand to appear
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: for one day's worth of filming. I do that in
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: a heartbeat.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't care the quality of the movie. If
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: you just want me there because you're a fan and
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: you want me to show up and do a scene,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: I'll do a scene.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: So fucking d Wallace is probably like Ted Bunny, what
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I did that, I like already forgot because that was
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: just a patriot.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean she's done so many things too, much
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: like Barbara Crampton that they you know, they have like
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: hundreds of credits.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: So yeah, man, absolutely phenomenal in this movie.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she was great. I mean she always brings it
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: to every movie. I mean even in Chopping Mall, which
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: is just such a goofy movie. I love her. And
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: but of course the classics like re Animator and From Beyond,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: she's just so goddamn charming. She's so and she's still
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: to this day. I'm like, you are still such a battie. Uh,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: She's just so pretty. Barbara Crampton, I love you. So
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: let's see here. But we kind of talked about Harry
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: and oh May was his girlfriend or Maddie or something
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: like that. But they come out there to visit because
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: and I was confused by this premise for for a
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: little bit because you had Anne and Paul there and
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: then Jacob and did do you oh no, Jacob and
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: May show up, Like, who who are this? Can't be
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Harry and his girl. I'm like, these people are the
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: same age, but yeah, Jacob and May are the you know,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: parents of Harry. Harry was Bobby's college roommate. So they're
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: all just coming out there to see the house. And
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: May is some sort of medium, like, yeah, I guess
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: we'll just say that she's in touch with the supernatural.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: So she comes out there to kind of scope out
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: the house, and immediately she's like, yeah, the vibe here
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: is uh, I don't know about this vibe. Not sure
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: about this house, and uh something else that was really funny,
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: you know, Like I said, ann Ann feels Bobby's presence
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: and and May is very convinced that it's probably not
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Bobby's presence at all. But one of this is this
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: see and this This is why I love how this
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: movie kind of progresses, because when they go out to
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: eat at Buffalo Bills, which is hilarious is a hilarious name,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: and the fact that it's real is even better. But
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: it's the two sets of parents because Harry and Harry
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: and Maddie or whatever the fuck is girlfriend's name is,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: they're on the way and they're like, so they leave
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: a note on the door, we're going out to dinner,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: and the second they walk in, fucking It's like when
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: you watch a movie and the record stops and everyone
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: turns to look at these people. I was like, Okay,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: I get they might not be from the area, but
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: this is a weird greeting that they're getting. And I
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: got the vibe right away that something must be going
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: on in the town that I don't know if everyone
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: is in on, but I think everyone knows about Oh yeah, yeah,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: like everyone treating them that way just felt so bizarre.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: So then they sit down and they're having dinner, and
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: I think at one point when they're talking, I think
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: someone mentions the name Bobby or they mentioned something and
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: and the bar keep like drops a glass almost out
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: of like shock. So I was sitting there thinking, Okay,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: someone's in on this. Maybe it's the barkeep. Maybe people
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: are just so thrown off by seeing new faces that
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: that's how they treat people. It's kind of weird. Usually
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: small towns, you can tell me, are small New England
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: towns like that? Are you are you friendly or are
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: you very standoffish?
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Uh? No, everybody around here is pretty friendly. I mean
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: that town was perceived to be extremely small, which not
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: that I haven't been in those before, but like, you
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: walk into like a small shop in one of the
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: small towns, you're not going to get a what especially
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: because like I mean, everywhere, like it doesn't matter where
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: you go in the Sticks, people come up here to
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: be tourists.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so it just felt odd. I mean, I
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: know it, like I said, I know, it's a very
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: small town. But at the same time, I was like,
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: that's a very weird greeting, not like a hey, hello, welcome,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: just hmmm, I don't like you, very very judgy vibes
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: I got from that.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: That's the vibe of like, these thirty people are the
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: only people who live in this town.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, It's like this is it, this is the
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: whole town. This is the night the whole town comes
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: out to Buffalo Bill. Oh god, is it Buffalo Bob
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: or Buffalo Bill from Silent because Joe Dirt is one
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: and then Silence of the Lambs is another one. Yeah,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: it's Buffalo It's Buffalo Bill. Okay, Buffalo Bob must be
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: from Joe Dirt then, so that's an even weirder name
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: to call your fucking establishment.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: That's a more random reference to remember, sir. Right, Yeah,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Oh Joe, I'm getting Joe Dirt mixed up with silence
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: of the laughs.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: I know every time because he talks about Buffalo Bob
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: touching your bung hole and just I always get him
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: mixed up. So we've already touched on the fact that
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: the ghosts can physically harm people in absolutely heinous ways.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: But I'm wondering maybe you can enlighten me here as
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: to why Harry Daniella, Hey, there's her name. I wrote
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: down Harry and Daniella died so quickly because Paul and
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Anne were there for so long, completely unscathed. So I
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: don't I don't know why they weren't injured. Do you
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: have any sort of speculation as to why they were
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: kept alive?
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: The only thing I can think is because it is
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: insinuated at the end of the movie that the spirit
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: of their son is there, right, was that he kind
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: of was like, don't hurt these people, and but then
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: the other people came in and gooshed. I guess why
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: wouldn't the spirit of the roommate that was supposed to
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: be best friends be like, well whoa, Well, don't touch
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: these people either, right, But the old man made a
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: crack about them dying because they were like getting busy
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: right off the rip or something like that.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh that's right, right, Because when Jacob becomes possessed
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: after the seance, he you know, there's obviously some spirit
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: talking through him. It's like, oh, your son and that
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: horror horror girlfriend. Yeah, that's so maybe that's what it was.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: They they came in and kind of just disgraced the
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: house immediately.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: You're fucking.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: It's like you're about to in my house. Yeah, that's
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: where I draw the line get fucked, but not in
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: the way you want. Okay, So maybe maybe maybe that's why.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: And we don't get a lot of backstory on Harry
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: and Bobby's relationship other than that they were college roommates.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: So that's it's weird because the father or the mother
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: can't remember which one of them mentioned that they were inseparable.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: But then when it shows him driving and him and
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: his girlfriend are talking, he's like he made it more casual,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: like oh yeah, you know, we look, we were roommates.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: So it makes you wonder like if it's if that
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: was just a kind of a goof, right, or if
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: that's supposed to be the parents thinking that like they
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: were best friends and maybe they weren't because the parents
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: are out of touch. I don't know.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: That's a good point though, honestly, because you know, perception
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: is everything, and one person might look at it one
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: way while it's a completely different scenario to the people
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: actually involved. So that's actually a really good point to
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: bring up. So a little touch that I love, specifically
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: regarding Harry and Daniella is the fact that when they
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: went inside the house, they didn't pull the note off
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: the door. They left it on there, which told them, hey,
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: we went out for the night. You know, you can
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: either come meet us at Buffalo Bills or you can
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: just stay here and eat food there. They never took
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: the note off, so when everyone returns and they see
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: the note still on the door, they just think they
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: haven't made it yet. So yes, this is clearly in
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: a time where cell phones are not existing, because they
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: would have just called at that point. I love that though,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: because they're like, oh, they probably got tired and they
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: stopped somewhere. Oh they'll be here soon. Oh that was
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: a fun just a little touch that I love because
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: I also rewound it because I was like, I'm pretty
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: sure he took it off, and then when he walks out, Oh,
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: sure enough, he left it on the door. And I
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: because I was thinking maybe that the the you know,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: the spirits, put the note back or something like that,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: but no, he just never took it off. So they think, oh,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: all right, well they're they're just not here yet. Let's
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: let's continue our night as usual. And we get another
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Lord Dump at forty seven minutes, and Dave's character kind
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: of felt he was obviously pivotal to the plot because
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: of the explanations we were getting. But I did find
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: his character slightly convenient because every time he pops up,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: it's like Lord Dump, Lor Dump. But in the in,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: you know, in regarding moving the story along, I get
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: why his character was there. Plus it opens the scope
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: up when he actually talks to Dagmar, like, hey, these
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: people have been here for a while, why aren't you
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: killing them? And that was another thing that this movie
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: did differently, like they this ghost and Dave have a
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: somewhat sort of relationship where we feed you, you don't
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: fuck with us. That is another thing I really liked that.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, does it exist in other movies. Maybe I
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: haven't seen that movie where there's this like symbiotic relationship
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: between afterlife and living where they're like, all right, we
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: have this agreement. Just stay there and we'll bring you
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: a family. Uh so I really like that. But the
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: thing I was getting to is that, oh, yeah, the
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: lord dump happens after he just shoots that fucking girl.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Fuck, go check the door. You I don't know, you
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: blowed your head off.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: Well, because the bar heave that I assumed was kind
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: of in on everything, here's someone knocking at the door, like, hey,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: we're closed, you know, what the fuck? And so she
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: sends the girl to the door. Why he just blatantly
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: shoots her. Don't this man's on a war path.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: But well, if it was you, I wouldn't have sent
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: the new girl. And I'm like, but.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Why, yeah, wouldn't. Wouldn't you have died? I don't know.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Uh so, yeah, so that that was funny. But he
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: goes into the town's history. You know, it's it's very
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: much like Dairy like you said, or or Jeeper's Creepers,
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: where this thing wakes up every certain amount of years
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: and is like, fucking I'm hungry, let's do this. Uh,
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: completely different entities, you know. One is a house that
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: involves a family of ghosts, One is an interdimensional being,
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: and one is just, I don't know, a creature. What
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: the fuck is the creep? What is the creeper? He's
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: just like, I don't know what you are, crazy bastard.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: So the house demands a sacrifice, you know, and if
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: it doesn't get a family, it will find one. And
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: the last time I didn't get a family, it's spread
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: throughout the town like wildfire, killing many of the residents there.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: So of course the energy it feels. It's funny because
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: like the energy and his feeling is not her son,
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: but it is in the same sense because I guess
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: his presence was there protecting them from the Dagmars killing them,
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: which which again another plot point I find interesting. I
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: don't really think I need an explanation on how his
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: spirit got there. We don't know anything about the afterworld
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: or if there is one, spirits can maybe able to
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: just roam freely, who knows. But that was kind of
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: cool that Bobby was there essentially protecting his parents, because
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: you know, he died in a car crash and they're
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: grieving parents, and I think my speculation is, maybe my
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: theory is is that Dagmar felt sympathy for Anne and
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Paul because you know, they much like he lost his family,
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: they lost a part of their family. Because there's that
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: scene at the end and when Dagmar just crushes the
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: ever living fuck out of Dave's head, like very good
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: practical effects, and they have this moment where the Dagmar
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: family kind of huddles up and puts their arms on
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: one another and just stares at Anne and Paul, and
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what are we doing here? And then they
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: look away for a second, come back and they're gone,
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, okay. And then that's when Ann
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: goes down to the basement. Paul follows and he's like,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: oh hey, Bobby. And then and then the movie's over.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: So it's almost like they had this kind of somber
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: moment of like, we won't hurt you, we know you've
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: dealt with tragedy. We're gonna just let you go, which
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: I thought, again was just so goddamn refreshing. This movie
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: was just oh oh oh.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: The way it ended gave me the feeling of like,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: so are they gonna live there now? Do they need
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: to now feed them every thirty years?
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: I had the same feeling because Kad is now now
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: dead Dave. Dave is now dead, so it's like, do
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: we spare you, you know, for what happened to your son,
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: but now you're in charge of feeding us. I had
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: that same kind of thought, and it's an open ended,
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: ambiguous ending, which can not work for me a lot
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: of the times, but in this instance, with how they
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: ended it, especially with the last line of dialogue being
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: hey Bobby, I was like, all right, I'm okay with
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: an ending very ambiguously like what happens next? I don't know.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: I'm totally okay with that.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: The gas fuck it, they're gonna leave us alone. Yeah,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: we we own the restaurant now because everybody's dead, and
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: we're just gonna go take it over.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: We owned Buffalo Bills, we own this house. We're just
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: gonna fucking take over. So uh yeah, good, absolutely good shit.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: I fucking love this movie. I did want to talk
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: about before we moved on to like, well, I guess
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: we just did just talk about the ending. I wanted
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: to talk about that say scene, because oh my God,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: that shit was so good. Uh, Anne and May leave
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: to go out grocery shopping, and Jacob's like, oh, don't worry,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: We're not gonna have a seance, and then immediately starts
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: lighting candles.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Like he wouldn't even been out of the driveway when
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: he started lighting them.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: And it was so fucking good because the seance starts happening,
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: you know, they start doing the seance, and Jacob's reaching
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: out to these other you know, to the other realm
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: of existence, and he says this one line of dialogue
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: I can't remember, but Paul looks at him confused and says,
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: what what did you just say? He said, Oh, I'm
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: just trying to do like a you know, like an
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: invitation to kind of welcome the ghosts. And then it
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: just goes downhill from there, with him being full unpossessed,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: saying the most horrific shit about Harry and his horror
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: you know girlfriend, and then eventually Jacob just takes a
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: fire poker straight to the eye of his own doing
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: my god, damn, I'm a fire poker to the eye
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: all right, I'm here for that shit Larry Feesten did
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: is great. I love him as an actor, not so
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: much as a director. But when Larry Feestenden pops up
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: in movies, I'm always there for his performances. Have you
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: ever seen him in anything else that you can remember?
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: So yeah, So my wife was pointing out that he
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: was just in a movie she watched. I caught bits
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: and pieces of it called Habit, and then that one
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: that was like very artsy, not my style, not her
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: style either. But then I Sell the Dead is the
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: other movie that I knew him from.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: The Dead Decks the Dead Don't Die.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: No, no, it's just called I Sell the Dead.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, I Sell the Dead. Oh okay, gotcha. Yeah, he's uh.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: The two things because I'm like, we're watching the movie
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I feel like I recognize him, but
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: like I don't at the same time. And then she
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: brought it up later on, She's like, oh, no, you
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: know him from these and I was like, oh, no, shit, yeah,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: we just watch those.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's his IMDb photo if you whenever you
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: have a second to check it out sometime today or whenever.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: It's such a great photo. He's a very recognizable, uh,
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: very recognizable face. So uh, I added a new little
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: section here because this is the first time I think
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: this year where movie, at least in this month, where
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: we've had a really really good scares in this movie.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: And I mentioned them kind of leaning into the tropes,
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: but god damn they were effective. Harry's death was wild
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: because he gets his eyes pushed in by a ghost too.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: You know, typically ghosts don't kill people in such brutal ways.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: But I loved because in the beginning of the movie
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: you see them kind of behind things. They they'll they'll
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: give you like a like a thematic kind of like
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: when you see them. But there's not too many jump scares.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: There's a few, but I think they're I think they're
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: well crafted enough that they don't come off cheap. They
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: come off very effective to me. I don't know how
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: you felt about any of the jump scares, but for
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: me personally, I really enjoyed how they crafted them.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: I don't, dude, jump stares don't fucking necessarily pop out
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: in my mind just because I'm like, I'm so used
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: to a jump air that I'm like, I'm like sitting here, like, wait,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: was there jump scares? I mean he noticed them, so
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: there must have been.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: There was a couple uh, there wasn't many, but mainly
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: they were lingering in the shadows for a lot of
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: those shots. And I just I.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Live the dream sequence when the dad that part fucking
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: freaked me out. When he goes just move the wife
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: and she's just dead corps.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh shit, Oh that was yeah, that was good.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: That whole dream sequence, a nightmare sequence was great. And then,
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: of course I'd like to assume at the end, by
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: the end of the movie, Paul is a believer. He
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: saw what happened to Jacob. He clearly, you know, can
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: see his son. So I'd like to think he has
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: been swayed into the into believing in the other worldly
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: ghostly Spookie.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: When he gets when the two women get back from
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: the from town and he was like, quick help, I
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: believe you whatever, Like he really passively. It's just like
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: I believe you. Come on, your fucking husband's possessed.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: So one of the core fears of this movie to me,
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: beyond ghosts and spooky shit, is the pain of not
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: letting go of someone and moving on if you if
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: you know, your past can haunt you if you let it,
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: whether it was something that you did or something that
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: happened to you, or it was just a loss that
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: that's the core fear. Sometimes it's really hard to move on,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: and I'd like to think that by the end of
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: this movie they were able to come to some sort
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: of moving on state when you know, but we don't know.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: But nonetheless, some other things I think we already touched on,
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: the seventies eighties vibes, the atmosphere there. We talked about
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: the look of the ghost. I did enjoy the camera work.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: There was a lot of good, stagnant, smooth shots in
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: the beginning, and then it kind of transitioned into a
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: much more frantic style once things kicked off. Loved the score.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: A lot of the did effects were practical, with I'm
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: sure some digital alteration in some instances. We've talked about
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: the tropes. The only really issue I had, which wasn't
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: really an issue, I just they didn't really explain why
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: they were moving or what I guess it was because
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: of the death of Bobby. I don't really think an
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: explanation was needed, but I think it could have helped
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: just to get some context for what was happening, because
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: I didn't know where they were going, what they were doing.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: I thought they were just going to a vacation house
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: or maybe to a friend's house. So I think it
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: just just a quick little something in the beginning would
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: have helped me. Is there any issues that you had
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: with the movie overall?
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Not really? The only thing nice not that the CGI
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: looked bad, but I never really liked seeing it in movies.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: So like the demons all being all like ashy and stuff,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: it looked cool, but at the same time, like, hey,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: you could have done like makeup or something.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: Well, a lot of so that's why I say there's
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: digital alteration for sure. But in a bit of trivia,
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: it does say that the the makeup that they used
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: for the ghosts took about two hours to apply, so
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: there was definitely a lot. Okay, yeah, there was definitely
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: a lot of practical effects. But obviously this the eyes
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: were altered digitally because they had that kind of like
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: great overlook, and again they were kind of ashy and crackling,
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: so the effects there were effects there, but I know
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: they had a base layer of actual practical stuff going on,
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: which which is great.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Uh, fair enough, the rest of the practical effects were amazing.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: And since you're mentioning the practical effects you get, you
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: get another fucking gun shot in this movie, Goddamn Wild
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: when May opens the door trying to get out of
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: the house, just fucking blasted by this shot gun. And
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: you see, like it was such a good practical effect.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: I thought someone legit got shot. Only shit, oh man,
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: the last twenty minute is just fucking bonkers. They turn
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: it up to eleven the seance, Dave kills his wife
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: off camera, but we see her calling, and then the
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: fucking like town starts storming the house and running upstairs.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: The ghosts are like, uh uh, we're protecting these people.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Ain't no fucking way. And then yeah, that head crush
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: of Dagmar just, oh my god. It was such a
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: good looking head crush, and I was like, yeah, yeah,
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: that's that's good.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: So I'm really happy that a lot of the blood
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: and guts were all done practically. To my knowledge, I
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: don't think there was any cg alteration except there was one.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: I think it was with the head crush where I
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: did see a camera a drip of blood go down
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: the camera. I don't know if that was unintentional and
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: they actually captured that for real, or if they added that,
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: but either way, it added just a little bit extra
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: umph to that kill. But all in all, I think
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: this is something that if you're a fan of spooky movies,
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: a good ghost story that leans into some tropes, subverts
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: other tropes, and has a just a fucking dope story,
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: this is the movie for you. Yeah, I mean that,
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: That's all I have on this one. I think, did
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: is there anything else you wanted to hit that maybe
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: we didn't get to before we went home?
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: I did going back to the possession part, I will
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: say you were saying how well crafted it was, and
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: I have to agree, just because the demon keeps like
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: throwing little things like you don't realize that he's possessed
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: because it is. It's like one sentence and then he's
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: like acting normal again, and then it's another sentence. And
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: it was just that fucking great build up to like,
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: oh no, he's fucking possessed.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It was such a great say on scene, because yeah,
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: that's another thing they'll do when haunted house movies or
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: movies with the supernatural, they'll they'll do wija boards. But
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: they didn't bust out of weegia. All they did was like, yeah.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: I appreciated the basic of it, like, no, I can
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: just light these and we're good to go, Like we
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: don't need a Ouiji board and dim lights.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: And yeah they did it. And that's the other thing too.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: The sales was in broad fucking daylight, and I was
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: not expecting things to go haywire. Daytime is safe time.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: Like, oh, by the way, this is where this movie
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: is just gonna go.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like fucking right to the gut. So yeah,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: this was honestly a huge surprise for me. I anticipated
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: I would enjoy it. I figured i'd probably give it
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: like a maybe, like a three five. But I gave
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: this movie a very high rating, and I will stand
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: by it because I especially in eighty four minutes, no
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: time wasted in and you're out, great ending, great setup.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: So that is all I have. If if that is
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: all you have, we can do the wrap up here.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: That is what I got, all right, So that is
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: we are still here from twenty fifteen. Let's move on
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: to the final cut. So we've got one tagline, This
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: house needs a family trivia. During his speech about the
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: Dagmar family, Dave notes that the homes first owner sold
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: corpses to the University in Essex County, a reference to
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: author HP Lovecraft's fictional Miskatonic University, which was located there.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: Numerous characters in the film are named after characters or
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: people associated with Luciofolchi's film The House by the Cemetery,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: which this film was inspired by. Paul Burris, who plays
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Billy Dee, is actually the pastor of a local church
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: in the town where this movie was shot on location,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: and his daughter Zora Burris, plays the ghost girl Fiona
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Dagmar and then yes, the burn makeup and the Dagmar
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: family ghost took about two hours to apply in one
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: hour to remove. Oh a petty goof, I love a
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: petty goof. Shot of the rear of the house lingers
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: on three gas meters which are there. This indicates that
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: the housing unit is a triplex rather than a single
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: family home, and has three separate living entrances or living spaces.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: This is also evident, though less so from the front
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: of the house, which has three separate front entrances. Fucking
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: cares God, I love petty goose. Someone who has too
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: much time on their hands, fucking nerds funny.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: As I did when they were doing that shot. I
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: was like, wait, would that have matched up with the timeframe?
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: Because I had that same thought about the the meters.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: I guess not. I didn't have the same thought, but
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: I was just like, wait a second time placement, would
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: that have made sense? And I'm like, yeah, I guess
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: what of meters have been around since the fucking seventies?
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: Oh God, that's fucking hilarious. I love it all right.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: So rated five point seven out of ten on IMDb.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: For the purposes of the fear Index, that will be
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: a two point eighty five out of five. That is
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: a two point nine out of five on Letterbox, which
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: is right on par with IMDb, ninety five percent on
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: the Tomatoes meter, and a shockingly low forty seven percent
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: audience score, which is that's a wild skew. So, Derek,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: what did you give this movie?
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: I gave this movie boo four and a half?
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: Whoa four and a half. That's what I gave it. Okay,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: So that is a frightmare certified slap.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: We are on a roll with slaps this month. I
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: cannot believe it. That gives us a nightmare index of
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: three point six y nine, which beats out the nesting
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: beats out The Haunting and beats out dead Stream. This
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: is now number two under House suh with a three
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: point six nine out of five. Holy shit, that's wildly incredible.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: Very happy with that. Similar movies according to IMDb, Every
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: single fucking one of these movies is an absolute banger,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: and if you've never seen any of them, highly recommend.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: They all have four and a half stars for me,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: Anything for Jackson, A Dark Song, The Black Coat's Daughter,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: The Innkeepers That one has a four sorry, and The
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Devil's Candy. Those movies are so fucking good. And then
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: similar movies according to Letterbox, the most basic bitch Answers, Insidious,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: The Woman in Black, The Conjuring, Insidious Chapter two, and Hereditary.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: I feel like Hereditary is almost on every single similar
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: horror movie.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: And none of those movies are really all that similar
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: when you get down to it.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: No, yeah, Hereditary is not even a haunted house. It's
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: just cults and ghosts and shiit. Uh. So did we
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: have any funny reviews from Derek?
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: No, that's fine.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: I I I never remember to remind anybody, so I
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: can only blame myself. Let's see here, So I've got
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: three and a half stars from number one Gizmo fan
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: in all caps, Why don't y'all just dot dot dot
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: leave the house? Exclamation point, exclamation exclamation point. I mean
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: fair enough, I would have left a while ago. We've
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: got uh two stars from Tasso ew why did he
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: call his wife? Kiddo?
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: Wait? What? I don't remember that?
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: It was a very very quick moment in the movie.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: Let's I love this review. There's I don't think I've
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: ever seen a one word review. One star Emily Housel,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: why just why? All right? And last, but certainly not least,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: I had it here somewhere. Oh my god. Everyone was
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: leaving very long reviews, and it's I don't mind leaving
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: a long review. But uh, I don't know. I'm just
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: saying some some movies don't need a whole whole bunch
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: of paragraphs. So four stars from Letitia Fernandez, the best
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: roommates ever. Ps. Larry Fessenden is a good man and
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: did not deserve that to the eyeball. Oh goodness, gracious,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: that was a good kill.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: Though.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, I I don't, I don't. I don't know
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: of many fire poker deaths. I know they exist, but
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: I like seeing a non traditional kill with a household
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: item that was really awesome. So, Derek, where can everybody
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: find you on social media? Tell them? Tell them?
• 1:06:57
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• 1:07:01
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• 1:07:05
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• 1:07:09
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• 1:07:13
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• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm about done with I'm about done with, about
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: done with TikTok at this point, I've tried posting my
• 1:07:22
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• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: saying it's under review. Okay, what's going on. I don't
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: understand what's happened. It's been I left this. This one's
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: been there for about two days now, under review. Fucking what.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: It's a trailer reaction, man, I don't understand. So I'm
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: gonna try and repost it again, and if it does
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: not let me post, that might be the end of
• 1:07:45
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• 1:07:47
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• 1:07:49
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• 1:07:52
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• 1:07:54
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• 1:07:56
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• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: place with TikTok. It's being very strange, and I'm also
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: getting way more views on Instagram than I am on TikTok.
• 1:08:06
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• 1:08:10
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  Speaker 2: We're doing zombies. It's Zombrewery Attack because everything has to yeah,
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• 1:10:20
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• 1:10:24
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• 1:10:28
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• 1:10:48
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• 1:10:53
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