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Senator Lindsey Graham's Legacy · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 1: Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning
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  Speaker 1: host on six sixty Am The Answer in Dallas. Here's
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  Speaker 1: today Zeminem experience.
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  Speaker 2: Mark. I'm convinced this is why President Trump and Senator
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  Speaker 2: Graham became such good friends. They both have a wicked,
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  Speaker 2: wicked sense of humor. I mean, to go one on
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  Speaker 2: one with Trump, it's one of the funniest experiences I've
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  Speaker 2: ever had. I've told you that before. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 2: just a just fall down, laugh out loud, funny guy. Well,
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  Speaker 2: so was Lindsey. Lindsey could crack you up and at
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  Speaker 2: the drop of a hat. So you know, it's all
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  Speaker 2: the good, the bad, and the ugly. We're seeing in
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  Speaker 2: social media. We're seeing horrible things said about him because
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  Speaker 2: people just can't be decent. And incidentally, we ought to
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  Speaker 2: pay the same attention to remembering what you're showing yourself,
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  Speaker 2: how you're revealing yourself. If you attack a man who
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  Speaker 2: just died to one of my kids last night, and
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  Speaker 2: he said, Dad, why do they want to beat up
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  Speaker 2: on him after he died. He's dead. He can't hurt
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  Speaker 2: them anymore, you know, but they are. They're awful.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's true. It is okay. Now, it is interesting.
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  Speaker 3: This may this may be a podcast subtopic for today's
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  Speaker 3: M and M extra. It's been a minute or two
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  Speaker 3: on it right now. Is there such a thing as
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  Speaker 3: too soon anymore? I would assert that there's really not.
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  Speaker 3: There's never a good time to be cruel or vicious,
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  Speaker 3: which a lot of people are doing. But the minute
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  Speaker 3: somebody dies, their legacy is under an instant spotlight, and
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  Speaker 3: properly so. So it's more than an appropriate time to
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  Speaker 3: talk about things that people like, things that people didn't.
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  Speaker 3: I have no quarrel. I have a great fondness for him,
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  Speaker 3: and I want to remember his defense of Brett Kavanaugh
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  Speaker 3: and that sense of humor, and his alliance with Trump.
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  Speaker 3: All the good things. Some of the bad things annoyed
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  Speaker 3: me then and annoyed me now as I look back
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  Speaker 3: on them. But it doesn't make me savage his memory,
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  Speaker 3: it makes it, et cetera, et cetera. So I think,
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  Speaker 3: generally speaking, it is perfectly okay if one is civil
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  Speaker 3: about it, constructive about it to I mean, pretty well,
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  Speaker 3: instantly hop in and say, okay, here are the pluses,
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  Speaker 3: here are the minuses. I don't think they're the whole
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  Speaker 3: notion of oh, don't even talk about any of this
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  Speaker 3: for like two three days now.
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  Speaker 2: Not in the modern no, but there's a world of
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  Speaker 2: difference between a thoughtful analysis of his record and saying
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  Speaker 2: good riddence. You know, rest in hell he.
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  Speaker 3: Was one of the most evil and that by which
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  Speaker 3: I think was an Iranian newscaster or a Democrat social influencer. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you know this sank Hugur guy that does the Young
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  Speaker 3: Turks podcasts every once in a while, one of those
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  Speaker 3: kind of reasonable Democrats who gives if he even gave
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  Speaker 3: Trump grudging credit for something over the years. I think
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  Speaker 3: his thing if your thing is no foreign entanglements, no
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  Speaker 3: extended foreign wars, which, by the way, hello me and
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  Speaker 3: a whole lot of people who voted for Trump. But
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  Speaker 3: if that's your thing to such an extent, I mean
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  Speaker 3: this kind called Lindsey Graham, like one of the most
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  Speaker 3: evil people ever.
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  Speaker 2: Like what well it was one of his cast mates.
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  Speaker 2: I think Anna whatever her last name, Casparon or something.
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  Speaker 2: She was the one who almost immediately posted good riddance,
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  Speaker 2: and then she doubled down when people were saying, can
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  Speaker 2: you not, can you just wait? You just can you
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  Speaker 2: just be quiet for a little bit, Charlie, don't do
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  Speaker 2: or don't do that at all, or just don't say
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  Speaker 2: it all if you feel that way in your heart,
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  Speaker 2: if you're that wicked, and just keep it to yourself.
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  Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk posted on November twenty seventh, twenty sixteen, and this.
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  Speaker 2: I reposted this tweet yesterday the twenty sixteen election. You
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  Speaker 2: can tell a lot about a person by how they
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  Speaker 2: react when someone dies. It reveals so much about the
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  Speaker 2: person who's so tacky. Look, it's why you and I
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  Speaker 2: both criticized President Trump for what he said about Robert
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  Speaker 2: Muller and Rob Reiner.
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  Speaker 3: And I caught some of it. I cut some of
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  Speaker 3: that back online from people who said, hey, Mark, you
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  Speaker 3: are talking about a call for civility, what people are
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  Speaker 3: saying about Lindsay Graham. And it seems like we're always saying, well,
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  Speaker 3: there's an asterisk on the Trump stuff. It's kind of different.
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  Speaker 3: It is kind of different. No, that's not okay, it
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  Speaker 3: is not exactly. It doesn't mean I'm making excuses for it.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't need Trump bagging on Rob Reiner or Robert Muller.
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  Speaker 3: Robert Muller and Rob Reiner Robert Muller tried to destroy
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  Speaker 3: his life with false charges. Reiner savaged him daily at
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  Speaker 3: all times. Literally, Graham, You're never Lindsey Graham never did
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  Speaker 3: those things to anyone.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they makes it okay, they think they are mistake
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  Speaker 2: Well they thinks well, but they'll tell you you are.
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  Speaker 2: You don't rationalize it. Markets I'm not. I'm saying, oh,
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  Speaker 2: it's a little bit different. It's a little bit triven
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  Speaker 2: or different when it's our guy. It's a little bit. No,
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  Speaker 2: it's not.
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  Speaker 3: It's a little a little bit different when it's a
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  Speaker 3: little bit different.
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  Speaker 2: And leave dead people alone.
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  Speaker 3: Leave dead that's a good philosophy.
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  Speaker 2: That's how about let's just leave people who die. They
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  Speaker 2: have families. I think about Lindsay's sister right now and
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  Speaker 2: what she and his staff mark. His staff is good
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  Speaker 2: because he loved them. He was so good to them.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, if you saw the reporting, and I hate
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  Speaker 2: to get morbid here, but it's worth noting that he
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  Speaker 2: apparently knew he was in trouble. He'd called President Trump
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  Speaker 2: Saturday night and was talking about his visit to Ukraine,
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  Speaker 2: and Trump has reported that Senator Graham said, I'm tired,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm fine now. It's being reported by Axios that
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  Speaker 2: somebody in his circle was aware that he wasn't feeling well,
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  Speaker 2: and they said, you got to get to the doctor,
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  Speaker 2: and he said, I'll go after my meet the press
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  Speaker 2: appearance on Sunday, and he said, I can't die now
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  Speaker 2: because we got too much unfinished business with Russia and
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  Speaker 2: Ukraine and the Save America Act. I can't die now.
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  Speaker 2: But but tragically, apparently he was alone in his townhouse,
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  Speaker 2: which by the way, is worth about eight or nine
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  Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars, which is not DC please in DC
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  Speaker 2: on Capitol Hill, three hundred grand in Frisco exactly, no kidding, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So the guy lived pretty modestly, but he was apparently alone.
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  Speaker 2: Called what I believe was a staffer based on some
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  Speaker 2: of my resources. She and she was in Baltimore. She
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  Speaker 2: called nine to one one and she called to get
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  Speaker 2: the paramedics there and told them that his door should
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  Speaker 2: be open, go in please, he's having chest pains. And
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't. It was dead bolded and they couldn't get in. Well,
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  Speaker 2: then they had to call to get I get up.
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  Speaker 2: There's a process and a procedure to break down the door,
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  Speaker 2: and they did all that. It was market was like
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  Speaker 2: twenty eight minutes from the sill. That's there's a podcast
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  Speaker 2: topic or whatever. We'll do some research in the next
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  Speaker 2: couple of hours.
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  Speaker 3: I guess the first thing that occurs to me, why
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  Speaker 3: don't they just get the did they? I guess they
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  Speaker 3: don't carry battering rams and ambulances, But why not take
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  Speaker 3: that door down right now? You got a guy having
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  Speaker 3: a heart attack on me the side of it. I
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  Speaker 3: guess it's in the age of swatting. You just can't
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  Speaker 3: burst into side his house unless you absolutely know what's
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  Speaker 3: going on on the other side. I don't know well.
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  Speaker 2: And he was a US senator. I noticed that I
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  Speaker 2: saw shots yesterday of flowers being laid at the at
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  Speaker 2: the gate and everything in front of his townhouse. But
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  Speaker 2: I noticed there were some pretty sophisticated surveillance cameras. Look,
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  Speaker 2: this guy was, he was a He had a target
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  Speaker 2: on his back from Iran.
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  Speaker 3: The Iranians hated him, The Russians hated him, which is
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  Speaker 3: why everybody thinks that somebody got him with a poison
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  Speaker 3: tipped umbrella and or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: That is that a conspiracy theory, or is that reasonable
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  Speaker 2: to ask.
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  Speaker 3: It's it is an enormous leap that absolutely has to
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  Speaker 3: be investigated. Does that make sense any reason to believe
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  Speaker 3: that not?
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 3: Is an autopsy a good idea, right?
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  Speaker 2: And the autopsy apparently revealed an aortic tear he had,
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  Speaker 2: like a hardening of the arteries as a result of
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  Speaker 2: heart problems and circulation problems that he was probably unaware of.
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  Speaker 2: I'm told that he did know he had some high
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  Speaker 2: blood pressure issues. And this was not a guy, sadly
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  Speaker 2: who spent a lot of time at the gym. By
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  Speaker 2: his own admission, he liked to play golf, but he
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  Speaker 2: didn't really exercise. He didn't apparently take supplements, he didn't
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  Speaker 2: take care of himself. And incidentally, it's a good reminder
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  Speaker 2: if you're over forty, make sure you get everything checked out.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you always talk about the body scans and.
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  Speaker 3: Care comes today's bia skins. Mind just a few minutes
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  Speaker 3: that can I wait? Get better? You're your work, You're
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  Speaker 3: you're a gym round. You're turned into loop FORIGNO In
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  Speaker 3: the last.
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  Speaker 2: Time, why a week, well twice a week now with
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  Speaker 2: the trainer and after Lindsey Graham I called him and said, look,
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  Speaker 2: can I just can we just can you just move in?
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  Speaker 2: Can we just go fast track this?
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