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Episode 97 Wrestlepalooza 2025 review · Podcast Championship Wrestling

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  Speaker 1: And listen to America Radar, ESPN and w w E.
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  Speaker 2: They weren't exactly the titans of American broadcasting. God, they
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  Speaker 2: were upstarts, were.
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  Speaker 1: Of from every one of the ESPN Sports Center and
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  Speaker 1: this very desk.
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  Speaker 3: In the coming weeks and months, we'll be filling you
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  Speaker 3: in on the pulse of sporting activity.
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  Speaker 4: In just the moment, we're gonna take you to the match.
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  Speaker 4: A very controversial imagine.
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  Speaker 3: There is no doubt everyone outsiders.
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  Speaker 5: Now, I'm still not to adjust exactly how it works.
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  Speaker 4: the way live.
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  Speaker 3: Up to the satellite and onto your screen, ending on
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  Speaker 3: a bang, but landing.
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  Speaker 4: With a wink.
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  Speaker 5: If it's up to me, we're running these highlights every
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  Speaker 3: Lauras Taylor will wrestle in wrestle Mania.
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  Speaker 2: Those time worn lines between what's.
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  Speaker 4: Rodman on Monday, he didn't show up for work. Dennis,
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  Speaker 6: Take them rogers and amusement.
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  Speaker 4: Can I get one more of those?
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  Speaker 2: Sure don't apply anymore.
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  Speaker 5: Shack welcomed into the world.
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  Speaker 2: Of the w w E. The biggest names he does
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  Speaker 3: All are just absolute experts in the world of entertainment.
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  Speaker 2: This is the pediful of entertainment, as are all games
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  Speaker 2: we play.
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  Speaker 7: Beyond defeated parents, here we go.
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  Speaker 2: Sports is entertainment, always has been, always will be.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, This is w W E and E c W
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  Speaker 5: alumni the Blue Meaning and you're listening to pc W.
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  Speaker 7: The question is, oh you.
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  Speaker 4: Let me talk to.
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  Speaker 6: I will give you a show like you have never
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  Speaker 4: What do you guys want to talk about? Meg act.
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  Speaker 1: From the colored Red in.
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  Speaker 4: A world with a black and white?
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  Speaker 5: Had either of world?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's luck if you don't achieve the child? What's that?
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  Speaker 4: Biga mad? You got a bigga man? What I said?
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  Speaker 5: Whoa right here? Oh?
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  Speaker 4: You know that black?
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  Speaker 1: You're red?
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  Speaker 4: What's back? The one?
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  Speaker 5: I'm back?
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  Speaker 1: Got a.
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  Speaker 5: Oh oh, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, chidle and fellow.
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  Speaker 5: Just welcome back to another episode of PCW podcast Championship Wrestling.
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  Speaker 5: I am your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dry Chicken,
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  Speaker 5: and I believe maybe this is episode ninety seven ninety eight,
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  Speaker 5: don't know, really close, getting close to one hundred, real close.
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  Speaker 5: We're gonna talk about the review for Wressell Palooza. Was
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  Speaker 5: it good?
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  Speaker 4: Was it bad?
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  Speaker 3: Was it.
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  Speaker 5: Profitable for ESPN? Were they happy with what they got? Well,
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  Speaker 5: you know what, they had somebody to do a review
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  Speaker 5: and hmmm, pretty close to how I feel about it.
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  Speaker 5: But we're going to discuss that and more. And we
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  Speaker 5: also got some numbers of how much tickets are going
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  Speaker 5: for for WrestleMania forty three I believe. Yeah, we'll talk
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  Speaker 5: about that more. But let me bring in my co host.
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  Speaker 7: It's just me, okay, Dang's just dang bi okay, dang,
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  Speaker 7: this damn lot of not for lock of damn black
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  Speaker 7: d did.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, it's on me now. I wanna get them all.
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  Speaker 7: I'm gonna get him all.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, get up? Oh you.
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  Speaker 5: Welcome back dre.
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  Speaker 4: Yo Yo? What do pc W crew? Main event? Dre
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  Speaker 4: Uso is back on Yoka Podcast.
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  Speaker 5: All right, man, yeah, welcome back just the two man
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  Speaker 5: group today. I mean that's fine. We did We did
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  Speaker 5: pretty good and we have a new segment you know
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  Speaker 5: where Doyle is on the road. It seems like and
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  Speaker 5: uh he chimes in, so I uh whatever he's reviewing.
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  Speaker 5: It's good for reviews. I think it's like a couple
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  Speaker 5: of minutes. I didn't get a chance to listen to it.
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna listen to it though before I post it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah totally. But yeah, man, we got a lot to
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  Speaker 5: talk about here. For only like a couple of matches.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like it's gonna be more complaining then, at
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  Speaker 5: least I believe is it's gonna be more complaining than complimenting.
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  Speaker 5: But uh, before we get to that, what happened. Oh
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  Speaker 5: I was getting Uh, I got a print out of
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  Speaker 5: we'll not print out, but I saw somebody post prices
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  Speaker 5: for WrestleMania that just went on sale for next year.
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  Speaker 5: Was at what are we on forty two coming up?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I dude, I'm just gonna just ballpark run down
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  Speaker 5: here the list. If people are looking to go next year,
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  Speaker 5: this is back to Vegas. We're gonna have it. They
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  Speaker 5: thought it was so good that they just go back again.
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  Speaker 5: I think they were originally planned to go to somewhere
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  Speaker 5: in Florida. Is it New Orleans?
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  Speaker 4: Originally it was New Orleans. Yeah, New Orleans, and considering
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  Speaker 4: going what we're gonna do with New Orleans? Even if
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't gonna attend WrestleMania because of the absurd ticket prices,
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  Speaker 4: I was at least gonna make a trip out of it.
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  Speaker 4: Go check out New Orleans and check out somebody's you know,
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  Speaker 4: watch party something down there. Yeah yeah, Nope. Then they
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  Speaker 4: had to go all in on Vegas double or nothing
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  Speaker 4: if you will.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and let's let's talk about how it's
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  Speaker 5: basically pricing us out. And this is dre this is
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  Speaker 5: in our own country, and I say that because we
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  Speaker 5: ain't gonna have it the year after that. It's gonna
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  Speaker 5: be in Saudi. And I'll tell you what a hell
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  Speaker 5: of a lot more expensive to go then. So the
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  Speaker 5: four hundred section, if you were to get tickets in
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  Speaker 5: the four hundred section, you're looking at eight hundred fifty
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  Speaker 5: five bucks right now.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know how say eight hundred and fifty five right, Yeah, eight.
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  Speaker 5: Hundred and fifty five bucks. Now, I don't know if
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  Speaker 5: that is a pretty good view. I don't know what
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  Speaker 5: the four hundred section is like, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, Well, for context, Yeah, when we attended WrestleMania forty
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  Speaker 4: at the Link and Philly, we were in the one
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  Speaker 4: hundred section of that stadium, and our two night combo
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  Speaker 4: tickets came up to seven hundred and sixty something dollars.
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  Speaker 4: Just for context, Okay, if you want.
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  Speaker 5: To sit a little bit closer, you want to get
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  Speaker 5: to three hundred section, you're looking at one thousand, one
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  Speaker 5: hundred and seventy five dollars roughly, so you're a little
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  Speaker 5: bit closer, right, a little bit closer, Okay, now, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: but I have extra money in your pocket. Actually, now
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  Speaker 5: I'm pulling up pictures of the arena. This is even nicer.
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  Speaker 5: This is this just makes it feels so much better.
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  Speaker 5: All right, So we're we're now at the two hundred section.
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  Speaker 5: If I'm to look here, worthy boy, oh boy, boy,
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  Speaker 5: two hundred sections, you would be on camera. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 5: might be on camera. If you're in the two hundred section,
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  Speaker 5: you're looking at thirteen hundred bucks to yeah, yeah, around
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  Speaker 5: thirteen hundred bucks. Now, this is where we start to
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  Speaker 5: get in like a lot better. Seats one hundred, the
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  Speaker 5: one hundred level. The hundred level is down. This is
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  Speaker 5: right before you get down to the seats, right, so
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  Speaker 5: if you still want to sit up elevated a little bit,
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  Speaker 5: you're looking at close to fifteen hundred dollars. Boy, oh boy,
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  Speaker 5: oh boy, oh.
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  Speaker 4: Boy, fifteen hundred dollars to not be on the floorah.
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  Speaker 5: Now, if you're on the floor sitting kind of where
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  Speaker 5: we sat, like behind the Titan tron. If you're looking
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  Speaker 5: straight at the ring, straight at the ramp up the
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  Speaker 5: ramp you're sitting on the floor. You're looking at two thousand,
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  Speaker 5: two hundred bucks for those seats. Okay, I got two
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  Speaker 5: more prices here, and then I want to look at it.
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you right now. Currently, uh, section B
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  Speaker 5: on the floor. If you were to get section B,
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  Speaker 5: where is section B at this? Oh? This is nice
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  Speaker 5: because this actually requires me to zoom. Ah section B.
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  Speaker 5: We're looking at thirty eight hundred bucks. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 5: where is B B? I see those are numbers, they're
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  Speaker 5: not even letters. That's pretty fucking scary, is uh. I
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  Speaker 5: can't even tell you where be even is?
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  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 5: And then they have section eight one on the floor
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  Speaker 5: is close to nine thousand dollars. Right now, what I'm
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  Speaker 5: seeing the most expensive seats that are for sale is
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  Speaker 5: going to be behind commentary. Not Oh wow, I lie,
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  Speaker 5: that's not the most expensive. Yeah, it's underneath HeartCam. If
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  Speaker 5: you're looking underneath.
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  Speaker 4: Heard came always the most expensive seats. There's two seats
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  Speaker 4: left underneath hardcam or opposite HEARTCAMPH my.
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  Speaker 5: God, there's two tickets for sale together left. Dude, No way,
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  Speaker 5: no fucking way, dude, there's there's not Nope, I can't
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  Speaker 5: think of one person I'd be willing to spend that
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  Speaker 5: much money on, let alone my fucking self. Twenty eight thousand,
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  Speaker 5: eight hundred and three dollars just for two tickets. What
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  Speaker 5: the hell that's for a two day pass for two
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  Speaker 5: day pass, still still dre.
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  Speaker 4: But people will do it.
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  Speaker 5: People will do it.
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  Speaker 4: They are pricing. They've definitely priced out the average person.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, like if we could be yeah, Sava person wild,
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  Speaker 4: the average wrestling fan will sit at this point, never
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  Speaker 4: be able to have a great eat at a WWE
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  Speaker 4: pl The average ww fan who wants to attend PLS
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  Speaker 4: is either going to have to blow out a credit
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  Speaker 4: card or the average fans are up in the bleachers,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, and the people with money might get further
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  Speaker 4: down road at least for PLS. Maybe somebody might splurge
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: for a raw or a SmackDown, depending on your location,
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  Speaker 4: depending on what's going on on that episode. Sure your
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: week to week raw and SmackDown. Yeah, somebody might be like,
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: you know what, it's been a while. They don't come
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  Speaker 4: here often, like like for example, like my locale, I
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  Speaker 4: didn't do it, but I could see somebody if they
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  Speaker 4: wanted to splurge one thousand dollars for those seats. I
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  Speaker 4: could understand it. You know, they don't come here often.
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  Speaker 4: They were just here a few weeks ago, first time
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  Speaker 4: in three years. So if you know, if you get
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  Speaker 4: WWE in your town once every three years, and you
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  Speaker 4: decide to drop a grand on some front row seats
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  Speaker 4: for an experience that you know you don't get too often,
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  Speaker 4: I can understand that. You know, the average person, I
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  Speaker 4: can understand for the average person doing that. But for WrestleMania,
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  Speaker 4: and you're talking basically thirty thousand dollars for front row seats,
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  Speaker 4: only rich people can do that. Only rich people. The
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  Speaker 4: average fan will maybe splurge for your nosebleeds, although splurge
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: for the faux hunting section maybe maybe if they if
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  Speaker 4: they've planned it out, you know, Okay, I'll drop two grand,
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  Speaker 4: only stick it heel like a diehard super fan first
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  Speaker 4: up of WrestleMania, I'm going all out, YadA YadA. But
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  Speaker 4: that's still just so prohibitively expensive that again, the majority
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  Speaker 4: of fans are becoming priced out of these experiences.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like the cheapest if you we went,
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  Speaker 5: if we want we went last time, we're looking at
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  Speaker 5: like almost fourteen hundred bucks, right, but like even the
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  Speaker 5: cheapest ones I can see available is maybe like seven
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  Speaker 5: hundred and fifty five dollars. Still, like, did we this
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  Speaker 5: includes like last year? Like last year was expensive too,
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  Speaker 5: from what I heard from fans, Like that's why a
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  Speaker 5: lot of people weren't happy with it. But like, honestly,
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  Speaker 5: dre like, did we go to the last affordable WrestleMania?
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  Speaker 5: Like was it really the last the last greatest WrestleMania?
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  Speaker 5: Like before ads starting, it was more of an ad.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, like we didn't we had the Prime station,
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  Speaker 5: but it wasn't Yeah, dude, it wasn't as bad it
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  Speaker 5: is now with the advertisements and and we didn't have
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  Speaker 5: to worry about ESPN And I don't know, man, it
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  Speaker 5: was there was a silver lining between Triple H and
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  Speaker 5: fucking Vincent. Right.
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  Speaker 4: It is very real that, yeah, it is. It is
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  Speaker 4: very real that we may have attended the last affordable
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  Speaker 4: quote unquote WrestleMania, and even with that, we still had
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  Speaker 4: a hookup and got ours in a bit of a
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  Speaker 4: bundle deal. M h. That's still worked in our favor.
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  Speaker 4: I still don't know what the average person who was
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  Speaker 4: just going out there, you know, solo dolo day of
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  Speaker 4: or when tickets went on sale trying to you know,
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  Speaker 4: get that or what they would have paid that I
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  Speaker 4: don't know because I don't recall. I know that I
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  Speaker 4: didn't ask other people around, like, you know, hey, how
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  Speaker 4: much you pay for your tickets and how much YadA YadA,
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  Speaker 4: So I don't know. You know, even our price might
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  Speaker 4: have been lower than what other people paid, but even then,
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it was so absurdly expensive or they
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  Speaker 4: paid substantially more than what we did at our you know,
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  Speaker 4: group price. So yeah, it's very possible that forty was
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  Speaker 4: the last and quote unquote affordable WrestleMania man where you
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  Speaker 4: could get two night tickets for at a fairly decent
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  Speaker 4: seating for less than one thousand dollars or fifteen.
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  Speaker 5: Hundred Yeply yeah, did I mean in retrospect when I
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: think about how much money we spent in that those
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  Speaker 5: amount of days, and does everything we got out of it?
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  Speaker 5: And like, I'll tell you what, I was more satisfied
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  Speaker 5: with what I got out of what I paid than
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  Speaker 5: I guess ESPN did, huh, because they didn't seem too
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  Speaker 5: happy about about this Russell palooza and you know what, honestly, man,
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  Speaker 5: like I wasn't happy either, Like we're gonna get into it,
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  Speaker 5: but oh man, I really hope we're on the same page.
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  Speaker 5: But then again maybe not. Uh oh hey, guess what
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  Speaker 5: we had somebody acknowledge? Yes we did. Josh zetel Mooyer
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  Speaker 5: at jay Z eighty five at cam At Edu said
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  Speaker 5: he gave us five star review on this is our website.
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  Speaker 5: You guys are very funny and entertaining. Thank you, sir,
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  Speaker 4: I know, John, thank you, Josh, Josh right, Josh or
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  Speaker 4: Josh Josh, thank you Josh.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I know, Josh. I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna publish that on our page. Yeah.
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• 21:14
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  Speaker 5: is I'll leave a five star review. And I'm not
• 21:53
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  Speaker 4: Nice.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, right, all right? You know what I don't. I
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  Speaker 5: don't think I have anything else? Man, Like you want
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  Speaker 5: to get into this, pl E. Is there anything else
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  Speaker 5: you want to talk about before we get into it?
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  Speaker 4: Not really, I mean we can dive in. I will
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  Speaker 4: talk about you know, ESPN's review of ww Russell Palooza.
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  Speaker 4: Who yeah, go for it? So Hey, well, Wrestle Paloser
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  Speaker 4: kicked off from the Gainbridge field House in Indianapolis, Indiana.
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  Speaker 4: The crowd of just over fifteen thousand fans and attendance,
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  Speaker 4: So kicking off the show match that previously we thought
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  Speaker 4: was going to be the main event, that they had
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  Speaker 4: kind of told at one point was going to be
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  Speaker 4: the main event, but apparently, I guess, smarter, cooler or
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: whatever has prevailed. I guess as they were finally formalizing
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  Speaker 4: the card, so we got kicked off with John Cena
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  Speaker 4: facing brock Lester and what turned out to be a
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  Speaker 4: glorified squash match. Rock Lesler started the match dominating, beat
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: the shit out of John Cena. John Cena attempted to
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: come back hit like three aas rock Lesler kicked out.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: Rock Lesler said, I'll see your three aas and raise
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: you five f fives and one two three. My personal opinion,
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: that was a giant waste of fucking time for this
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: to be Sena's final run and all this hype, you know,
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: Senor versus Lester. Yeah, Hey, big names, Gottayata Mike, main event,
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: and we basically just get a rehash of what was
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: it their Summer Slam match or whatever from years ago
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: when brod Lesler came back and brought took Johnson to
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: the supplex city, except maybe not as many soup plexes,
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: but still basically just whooped his ass, dominated him, pinned
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: him like that was nobody wanted to see that, Nobody
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: was rooting for that, nobody was going for that. I
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: know we speculated that rock Lesler might win if there
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: was going to be a rematch, and you know, we
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: see Johnson eventually overcome or what have you. But if
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: that's how the first match is gonna go, not just
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: from it being in squashed and dominating but still the
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: same boring, spam our finisher bullshit, who the fuck wants
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: to see any of that again? Again? I did, I
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: never wanted to see it in the first damn place,
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: but that damn sure, I ain't gonna have nobody clamoring
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: for a rematch. That's not going to have anybody clamoring
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: for JOHNSONA to overcome rock Lesnar. In detail end, that's
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: just a waste and for john and for at this
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: point where he has so few matches, so few appearances
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: left period, and we wasted one of them on this
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: squatch match, whish. By the way, I said before the record,
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: I said beforehand, I didn't want to see this match
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: because I felt like it was a waste beforehand. But
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: this just doubly reinforced that notion for me. And yeah,
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: just why other than the fact that it's ESPN, it's
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: their first show with ESPN, we need to make it
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: quote unquote big, So we gotta have big names. So
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: but bigger name is there than brock lesnar I Guess
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: and John Cena and biggest names we got throw them
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: in a match, whatever, fucking waste the time. What are
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: your thoughts on this one?
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: Wayne, I tell you what, Man, right at the gate,
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: let's go. I'm pretty pissed myself.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: You know, I should have known when the match got
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: moved last minute. That's kind of I think when the
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: decision with backstage was kind of changed because I think
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: the original plans was for Sena to go over. I
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: don't know exactly why they changed. What their bigger picture
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: is here, because I'm a little confused. Man, Like I'm
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: reading here on Sports Illustrated that the never seen seventeen
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: WWE World Champion is not expected to be back on
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: ww programming until Saturday, October eleventh, when he is scheduled
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: to appear at Crown Jewel in Perth, Australia. Scene has
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: also been booked for two episodes of Monday Night Raw
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: in November in Boston and New York respectfully as well respectively,
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: as well as Survivor Series, and finally, his retirement match
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: will take place at Saturday Night Main Event in December.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: The other one I couldn't remember. Yeah, so like earlier
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: about yeah no, I was talking with a coworker earlier
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: about seeing his final appearances, and I knew it was crowd.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: I know we had five Crowdjewel, Survivor Series, Saturday Night
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: Main Event RAW at MSG, and I could not, for
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: the life me remember what the last one was. But
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: I forgot that. There there's another Raw scheduled for Boston. Yeah, Boston,
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: get but did we already do that? Was it raw?
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Just was that Raw or SmackDown? It was just at Boston,
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: wasn't that? And we already had that?
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: But well SmackDown. I know Brock showed up the SmackDown
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: looking for Sina and and and I was like, well, dude,
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: like he's not here, like because Johnston is on Raw
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: dumb ass.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: But yeah, well they did the thing with I've seen
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: his last ever smacked Down apparent.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was another thing. It's like, Brock, did you
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: not watch SmackDown like last week? Seeing it was here
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: last week and he was like, I'm never coming back.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: He's to come on, man, Like, Brock, you need to
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: watch your own fucking product. Man, keep up. He showed
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: all the way up. There was like where is John?
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Give him to me?
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: He's gone, man. I was like last week he don't
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: go here no more.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: H don't give enough to follow the product.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: Dude, Like I don't know what the big plan is
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: because you know now then I'm reading on a couple sources.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: Body slam Net sources indicate as of uh Saturday that
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: there will be no oh no Saturday morning Johnsena schedules
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: to defeat Brock Lesner at Wressel Plusa's sources. I'll indicate
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: that both Cody Roads and True McIntyre pitch Rainy.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: Or and get to that.
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it made it's like there's no rematch schedule and
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: like that kind of makes me like scratch my head,
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: like okay, so like we're not doing a rematch because
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: he's not going to Australia.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: But we also got.
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: The fans were kind of chanting, you know, like AJ Styles,
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: like we know we want an AJ Styles match, and
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: I guess John Cena tweeted out something to Triple Each
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: about it, and and AJ Styles is you know, down
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: for it, whether it's like it was something that naturally
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: happened or like it's all a work either way, like
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: if we got four dates left, like just man, just
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: come on out, cut your promo, you know whatever, let's
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: ring the bell man, like let's see a classic, Like
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: I'll stay up late on a Monday night to see
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: John Cena versus AJ Styles in the Madison Square Garden
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: or or in Boston. You know, mm hmm. I don't
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: want to burn it. I don't want to burn it
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: all on a Broccolisnter feud because if they don't plan
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: for a rematch, then okay, let's burn these last five
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: appearances on something fantastic. And said him just coming out
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: and saying, oh, I'm gonna miss this place, like this
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: is my last time in Boston, this is my last time,
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: all right, man, Like we got five dates. I'm fucking sweating, man,
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: because I don't know what they're gonna do, because this
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: match I did not understand it. The amount of AA's
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: and then the kickout, and then the amount of f fives,
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: and then the kickout, and then you know, I just
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: didn't understand it like this. This should have been the
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: opposite of what we got in Summer Slam of twenty
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: fourteen with the sixteen sup plexes. This should have been
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: Super Sena one last run beaten the adversary that he's
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: had problems with his almost his entire career. At some point,
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: at some point in his career, in different stages, he
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: has come across brock Lesner. You know, it doesn't matter
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: if he escapes the feud, he gets his ass whooped.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, brock walks away
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: and leaves for a while, and you know, John Cena
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: is still still standing even though he got his ass whooped.
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: And then a couple months later, a couple of years later,
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: brock Lester comes back whoops his ass again. It just
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: seems like I get it.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: But at the same time, with the as far as
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: like the whole the rematch thing one with as bad
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: as this match has been, why would anybody want a rematch?
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: And two, when have they ever had a good match together? Right? Yep?
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: I believe they had one match together during Lesler's first run,
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: But at that point John Cena was still an up
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: and comer. I think maybe at yes, he was a
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: US champion, but and you do have to probably search
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: to find that match, so I couldn't tell you whether
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: that was a decent match or not. But everything that
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: they've had in in Lessler's second run and Sena as
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: the face of the company or you know, the man
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: has been every match has sucked. Every match has been trash.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: Virtually every damn near every Brock Lesner match in his
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: second run has sucked. I still, for the life we
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: don't understand why people pop so huge for Lesler now,
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: why people are why he's such this big deal other
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: than size and name. And yes, the man is a
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: mammoth of a human fucking being. Yes he has a
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: presence about him, especially in w w E and in
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: the realm of giants, he is a giant among them.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: But his matches are just not good. They had the
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: same shit Germans F five's clothes lines. Like if I
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: could see the one Lesler match that he had that
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: I thought was entertaining. It would be the last man
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: standing match he had with Roman Reigns at Summer Slam,
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: and it took a fucking forklift for them to jack
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: up the ring with Roman falling out of it and
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: the dumping half to freaking set on top of Lesler
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: at the end to make that match entertaining. Other than that,
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: second Run, Lesner has been so fucking mediocre, just big
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: guy doing big bully shit sucks like I'm it is
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: night and day. My feelings for First Run Lessner versus
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: Second run, Yeah, First run Lessler was a goddamn lew
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: That man was putting on classics with Kurt Angle, That
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: man had iron Man matches with Kurt Angle wrestle Mania moments.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: He made me believe that Big Show had finally found
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: his muse to be a permanent big name main eventor
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: because he and Big Show had chemistry in the ring together.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: Big Show the guy who was just big, slow and
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: show that was it show, But him and Lesner in
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: the ring together worked. It was so perfect together. Him
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: at Big Show and Lesler could have been like Rock
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: and Triple H in the ring together. That's how good
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: first Run Lesner was. That he made a he made
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: a main eventor a legitimate bona fide main eventor and
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: rival and compelling feud with the Big Show. This motherfucker
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: this post UFC. Dude, it's just no fucking boring to me.
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: I I dude, I understand the frustration.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: I think too.
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: What's what's frustrating most of us is it feels like
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: a waste, like an absolute waste for us. Uhh whether
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: I just I just feel like at this point in
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: time that in this point in his career, this is
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: where he should have putting Lesner away and walked and
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: you know, into the sunset, uh and send Lesner off
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: and Lesner as well, like that man as well does
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: not have much time left. I mean, I know he
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: is in the best shape of his fucking life. And
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: don't get me wrong, and that man came out and
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: this is from one man, no homo, to another man.
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: It's like, God damn, that man is like built perfectly.
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: He's a fucking jack Bee east Man. The fucking entrance
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: with that light just hits him just right. It's like,
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: fucking he's the moster man, just like the juice dude
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: whatever bro likes. You know what, Sometimes I wish we
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: just had like you could be the biggest freak you
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: want to be. Whatever, this is sports entertainment anyway, I'd
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: rather see Brock feed with other people. He hasn't wrestled yet.
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: I really like to see Brock and Gunter. I like
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: to see Brock and Braun breaker, you know, like I
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: want to see some other matches before Brock is ready
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: to hang it up, because, let me tell you, a
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: couple of months ago, we all thought Brock was done.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: We thought he was cooked. Is what the younger generation
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: of kids like to say that he was cooked until
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: you know, prizally he came back.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: But uh.
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I give me an AJ Styles master for John Cena,
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: give me ah. I don't know who else we got
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: left I want to see.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: But it's.
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: Are we saving the best for last? What's the what's
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: the best? What's the best for last?
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: What is that?
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: It's not the rock, it's not the best for last?
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: What is the best for last? For John Cena?
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: You know, you have no idea at this point. We're
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: just gonna wait for We're just gonna wait to see
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: what's announced because there's no hype there. They just announced
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: him versus AJ Styles just out of the blue, like,
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: all right, next time we're gonna see him and he's
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: facing AJ Styles. Yeah yeah, Okay, where's the build up there? So,
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, what are we gonna have, Like, John ain't
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: gonna be on No Raw or SmackDown or nothing between
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: now and Crown Jewel. So are we just about to
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: have a couple of weeks of AJ Styles coming out
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: here cutting promos? Like no build up? There's literally none.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: There's no build up, there's no hype, like, all right,
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: here's the next one, wait for it, Okay, And then
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: after that, maybe we might get some hype build up
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: for a summer for a Survivor series because he might
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: have an appearance or two. I don't know when the
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: the Boston or MSG raws are scheduled in between Crown
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: Jewel and Survivor series, So maybe we get a match,
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: or I mean, maybe we get an appearance for some
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: side of a build up for whatever the fuck he's
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: gonna do at this point. At this point, we just
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: bring it on the end.
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: I have an idea, man, I have an idea. Who
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: it is, mister McMahon, fucking Vince, Oh god, maybe the
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: biggest shock in all of the world, all of the world. No,
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: thank god, it won't be Vince. Yeah, I have no idea,
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: but anyway, that match we were referred to some older
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: John Cena broccolas or matches if you really, you really
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: want to go back and dig. A lot of these
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: are ere SmackDown first time. They cross paths with SmackDown
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: September at the time, yep, September nineteenth, two thousand and two.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: A squash match November thirteenth, two thousand and three, that's
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: a SmackDown that was a fatal four way or no,
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: I think it was a tax team. Yeah, tax Team
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: with Ben Wat and there's the big show involved. Then
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: back Life two thousand and three, this is when you
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: first I get there.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: That might be.
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: He defended his WW championship against John Sena in the
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: first ever pay per view match. I think that was
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: a pretty decent one. And then there's SmackDown February twelfth,
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: two thousand and four. That one had Eddie Guerrero as
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: his partner. Oh my god, somebodys are just goofy. It's
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: just like I'm trying to look for like Elies involves
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: like other people like Shenantikins.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: They didn't have any matches with them at their peak.
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: During exactly exactly.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: That's the thing is like John Cena wasn't at his
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: peak during Leslon's first Roe Lesner. John Cena didn't come
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: up until Lesnard left. Yeah, you know what, four Lesson left,
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: Johnsena was in the mid guard, you know who.
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: We did that with that with a couple of guys
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: where it's like these guys