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Trekcast Supplemental: Red One, SNW ends? Noah Hawley's Cancelled Trek Movie · Star Trek Podcast: Trekcast

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  Speaker 1: The Galaxy's most Unpredictable Star Trek podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Yo, what's up? Nervescast the galaxy Unpredictable Star tech podcast,
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  Speaker 2: And I'm one of your hosts, Dan Lombardo with me
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  Speaker 2: as always Daniel Reyes lurking around somewhere. Might be Scott Powders.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Did we get a definitive answer from him?
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  Speaker 3: I think that was the definitive last night. Yeah, that
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  Speaker 3: was not feeling so good. You know, maybe Chad got
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  Speaker 3: loose in the basement. So he's got to, you know,
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  Speaker 3: tamp that down.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he's going to have to start considering how
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  Speaker 2: dedicated he actually is to his role.
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  Speaker 3: That's true, Yes, because he's been he's been slacking. Indeed,
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  Speaker 3: indeed it is. It is not good. We will have
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  Speaker 3: to talk talk about that with corporate. See what's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Yes we will. Oh a waiting games is good morning, gents.
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  Speaker 3: Glad to join the stream today. Yes, we have a
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  Speaker 3: mighty stream, so might.
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  Speaker 2: My urologist does not agree?
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  Speaker 3: No, no, okay, well work on that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man. Yeah, so it's been it's been a couple
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  Speaker 2: of weeks for me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it has been.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't been on it a little while. I had
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  Speaker 2: a I had a cold that turned into COVID. So awesome.
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  Speaker 2: My COVID punch card I think is at like six
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  Speaker 2: or seven. Now you get now, what's that?
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  Speaker 3: Do you get a free sandwich now?
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  Speaker 2: Or I do want one more? One more? I get
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  Speaker 2: a free a free sandwich. Yep, it's uh, it's sandwich
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  Speaker 2: t shirt. And then I get a hat. Oh nice,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's here. It's a tear system.
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  Speaker 3: Right right right right, chasing for the next thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, yep. So yeah, last week was so weird.
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  Speaker 2: I I took Monday off for an appointment at my
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  Speaker 2: son's school, went to work Tuesday and just felt like
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  Speaker 2: garbage the second half of the day, and then just
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  Speaker 2: took the rest of the week off. You know. And
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  Speaker 2: when I say take the rest of the week off,
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  Speaker 2: I know, it sounds like I'm sitting by the pool drinking. No. No, no,
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  Speaker 2: you were just drinks out of a coconut. No. I
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  Speaker 2: mean like I'm on the couch wishing I was dead. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, yeah, so my voice is mostly back. It'll
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  Speaker 2: probably get worse over the next forty minutes.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, we'll bear through this and see what
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  Speaker 3: we can do. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: When I get sick, I use it as an opportunity
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  Speaker 3: to watch like shows I haven't been able to catch
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  Speaker 3: up on, or movies or whatever. You did you watch
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  Speaker 3: anything good at least or.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see, yes, my son. So, my son is thirteen
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  Speaker 2: now thirteen, all right, so he's getting to the age
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  Speaker 2: that he can watch a different tier of movies. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm slowly introducing him to, you know, some films.
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  Speaker 2: So we watched, we watched The Fly, the nineteen eighty
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  Speaker 2: six Jeff Goldblue Yep, yep. So he liked He liked
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  Speaker 2: it enough that I when I told him, you know,
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  Speaker 2: if you turn the disc over, the Fly Too is
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  Speaker 2: on there. That's how old my DVD copy of right,
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you know it's a double sided disc. Yeah, excuse
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  Speaker 2: So the next day we watched we watched The Fly Too,
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  Speaker 2: which did not hold up.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's not as good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not as good, but it's funny you rewatch
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  Speaker 2: you rewatch these old movies and you're like, I know,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know that guy was in this, Like that
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  Speaker 2: was what's his name? The guy? He was the first
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  Speaker 2: Marty McFly before they fired him.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Eric Schultz Eric Staltz. Yeah, I had forgotten that was
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  Speaker 2: Eric Staltz in The Fly Too and his love interests
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  Speaker 2: in that movie. I don't know her name, but she
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  Speaker 2: was in Spaceballs. She was Princess Vespa. Yeah, so we
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  Speaker 2: watched The Fly We watched The Fly Too a couple
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  Speaker 2: of days ago. Well, he was sick too, so the
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  Speaker 2: whole there was a point where the whole family was sick. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It was awful. It was awful, and I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 2: the meeting at my kid's school, I probably got about
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  Speaker 2: sick administrators sick too.
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  Speaker 3: So well, there you go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, awesome. So we watched it. Yeah, yeah, we also
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  Speaker 2: I had him watch the greatest Christmas movie of all time.
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  Speaker 3: This might be different takes for you and me. My
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  Speaker 3: mine would be uh, Grimlins nod die Hard.
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  Speaker 2: We watched. We watched die Hard the other day.
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  Speaker 3: I kind of thought that's the answer. But I love
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  Speaker 3: my I love my Grimlins.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so, and it's funny because I haven't watched
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  Speaker 2: die Hard in I probably haven't watched it in twenty years.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, you pick up.
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  Speaker 2: On things it does. It does hold up, it does
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  Speaker 2: hold up, But you also pick up on things that
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  Speaker 2: I didn't pick up on twenty years ago. So you
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  Speaker 2: know the scene where where McClean meets Gruber, and Gruber
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  Speaker 2: is pretending he's pretending to be Bill Clay from marketing
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  Speaker 2: or whatever, okay, and McClain hands him a gun which
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  Speaker 2: we later find out is empty when right, you know,
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  Speaker 2: when Groober double crosses him. But in rewatching it now,
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  Speaker 2: I noticed that McClain inserts the magazine, which we know
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  Speaker 2: is empty, and then when he puts the slide forward
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  Speaker 2: to load around, he manually pulls down the magazine release.
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  Speaker 2: And he does this because the mechanics of an empty weapon,
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  Speaker 2: if there was a round in that magazine, he could
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  Speaker 2: just pull the slide back and it would chamber the round.
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  Speaker 2: But because the magazine is empty, the mechanics of the
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  Speaker 2: way the gun works, it won't do that. It'll lock.
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  Speaker 2: It'll keep the slide lock to the rear. So he
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  Speaker 2: manually did that with his thumb. So if you're looking cloy,
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  Speaker 2: if you're watching this for the first time and you're
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  Speaker 2: a gun person and you look closely, you will know
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  Speaker 2: that he's handing him an empty weapon. Oh interesting, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And I found it even more interesting because they used
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  Speaker 2: like real world knowledge of how firearms work to drive
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  Speaker 2: the scene here and in the next movie he talks
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  Speaker 2: about the Glock seven being made of ceramic and therefore
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  Speaker 2: undetectable by an X ray machine, and a couple things
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  Speaker 2: is Glock seven doesn't exist. That's a fictitious thing they
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  Speaker 2: made up. They made up for the movie. The idea
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  Speaker 2: of a gun being made of ceramic and therefore not
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  Speaker 2: being able to show up on an X ray machine
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  Speaker 2: is just preposterous. Goes against the laws of physics. You
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  Speaker 2: cannot have a weapon, you cannot have a firearm that
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  Speaker 2: does not have metal parts. Physics will will not allow it.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, in the first film they used real
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  Speaker 2: life knowledge of how firearm functions to drive the plot,
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  Speaker 2: and in the second film need to the exact opposite
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  Speaker 2: to drive.
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  Speaker 3: That's funny. Yeah, huh, well that's cool. Yeah yeah, well,
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  Speaker 3: I'm glad you guys got to watch that. That's that's
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  Speaker 3: a fun movie. We did also watch a Christmas movie
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  Speaker 3: that neither one of us picked out, because Scott's the
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  Speaker 3: one who picked it out, and we're gonna have to.
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  Speaker 2: Talk Scott's who I owe the beatdown too?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, the smackdowns that's pretty bad. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I have things to say about Red One. We will
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  Speaker 3: talk about that, but uh yeah, let's let's get into
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  Speaker 3: star some Star Trek news first though.
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  Speaker 2: Star Trek News.
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  Speaker 3: All right, so our first bit of Star Trek news
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  Speaker 3: comes to us from Parade Magazine. And you may have
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  Speaker 3: seen some of the some of the postings going around
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  Speaker 3: social media, but Strange New Worlds has wrapped up its
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  Speaker 3: fifth season. They just finished shooting, and there's a big
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  Speaker 3: postings by by most of the cast members saying that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's been an emotional journey, but it's done. Man,
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  Speaker 3: They're done shooting Strange world season.
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  Speaker 2: This is relevant. You know. This basically means if season
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  Speaker 2: four sucks, there's no post correction, right, there's not going
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  Speaker 2: to be fixed.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you can also argue season four had the same issue,
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  Speaker 3: will have the same issue because they were in the
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  Speaker 3: middle of shooting it as season three was dropping. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so yeah, it will be interesting to see what happens.
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  Speaker 3: Is that there are rumors that the whole reason that
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  Speaker 3: they hurried up and got it all done is that
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  Speaker 3: they have to get everything shot before the end of
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  Speaker 3: January because a secret hide. Art Kurtzman's company will not
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  Speaker 3: be getting renewed for their structure license, so don't know
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  Speaker 3: for sure that that's the case, but the contract does
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  Speaker 3: come to an end at I think middle of next year,
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  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six. So it is interesting that a
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  Speaker 3: renewal has not been announced or any or any negotiations yet.
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  Speaker 2: But what aren't they doing the new one? Isn't that
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  Speaker 2: the same people doing it?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it is the same people doing it, but yes,
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  Speaker 3: But that also that's why they're shooting those two seasons
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  Speaker 3: back to back. Is everything has to be done by
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  Speaker 3: the end of January allegedly, so the shooting is done,
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  Speaker 3: but the least can be after the contract.
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  Speaker 2: So oh you mean you mean Starfleet Academy. They're shooting
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  Speaker 2: two seasons back to back.
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  Speaker 3: Also awesome, right, so neat uh oh waiting, Gabe, please
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  Speaker 3: let that be tree, Please God, let that be true.
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  Speaker 3: I imagine he means about Kurtsman not being renewed. So
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  Speaker 3: we'll see, maybe we'll get a We would find out
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  Speaker 3: probably right around Independence days, so it would be our
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  Speaker 3: true independence day.
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  Speaker 2: When do we find out if trek Cast gets renewed?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, We're got to figure that one out
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  Speaker 3: for sure. But yeah. So anyways, Stranger Worlds, it's coming
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  Speaker 3: to an end and they've they're done shooting, So there
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  Speaker 3: you go. Next story comes to us from trekmovie dot
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  Speaker 3: com and this is interesting, especially for the holidays season.
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  Speaker 3: But another licensee is dropping Star Trek due to increased
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  Speaker 3: paramount fees. So typically when you license a product, you
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  Speaker 3: pay a fee in order to do that. So recently
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  Speaker 3: apparel maker hero Within dropped Star Trek citing the higher fees.
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  Speaker 3: Hero Within makes like a ton of jackets and clothing,
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  Speaker 3: pretty cool stuff. Actually I can show you some of
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  Speaker 3: the stuff they make. But also recently a retrospective Retrospect Studios,
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  Speaker 3: who makes these banners that I have on screen right now,
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  Speaker 3: to make all these kind of like art kind of
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  Speaker 3: like watercolor looking pictures of characters. They are also dropping
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  Speaker 3: Star Trek because of the cost. It's just not economically
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  Speaker 3: viable anymore. So that's interesting, you know, because Skydance just
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  Speaker 3: bought Paramount and immediate increase the fees because they got
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  Speaker 3: to make that money back somehow.
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  Speaker 2: So it's fine. This is this is the free market
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  Speaker 2: at work. They increase the licensing fees and because of that,
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  Speaker 2: they're losing licensees. Which means they're not going to sell products,
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  Speaker 2: which means they're going to lower the licensing fees to
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  Speaker 2: draw it licensees. So you know, the uh, what do
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  Speaker 2: they call it the invisible hand? I know, yeah, humans
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  Speaker 2: call it Humans call it the invisible hand. Think the
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  Speaker 2: Ferengis call it the Great Material Continuum.
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  Speaker 3: That's the same thing, that's right. I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: rule of acquisition increasing your fees after the merger is,
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  Speaker 3: but but there it is. So yeah, so less Star
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  Speaker 3: Trek products in the upcoming New year. But I'm sure
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  Speaker 3: it'll shake out in the end.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it will shake out in the end. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then our last news story comes to us from
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  Speaker 3: Den of Geek and we are finding out a little
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  Speaker 3: bit more about Noah Hall's canceled Star Trek film. So
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of interesting. So what we're learning is it
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  Speaker 3: was for sure going. So the rumors was it was
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  Speaker 3: going to be about a virus. That he is, Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he he is the creator behind He did Legion, the
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  Speaker 3: X Men show on FX, he worked on Fargo. Most
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  Speaker 3: recently he worked on Alien Earth. So pretty yeah, he's
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  Speaker 3: a really good writer, producer. Yeah, yeah, make some interesting stories.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you go, if you saw any
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: of those shows. But yeah, Alien Earth was pretty good
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  Speaker 3: and Legion is pretty good too. But yeah, so we're
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: learning a little bit more about his what he was
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: going to do with Star Trek. He was going to
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  Speaker 3: do a brand new movie, brand new crew. We're learning
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  Speaker 3: that it was for sure going to be centered around
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  Speaker 3: a virus that was going from planet to planet, just
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  Speaker 3: just decimating populations, So that for sure was going to happen.
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  Speaker 3: The other thing too, was Data was going to be
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  Speaker 3: part of it, and what did he say? Yes, the
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: quote is an inboxing of Data and the idea of
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  Speaker 3: the android that would become an element in the films.
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  Speaker 3: So he had a film series thought up. So it's
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  Speaker 3: not for sure that it would be the TNNG crew.
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  Speaker 3: It would have nothing to do with the Crispine crew,
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  Speaker 3: but it would be a new crew and Data would
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  Speaker 3: somehow be involved. So I imagine they would recast Data. Who
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  Speaker 3: that would be who knows, but yeah, a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: a little bit different a virus. I do know that
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  Speaker 3: that they also mentioned like what happened to it? So
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  Speaker 3: there was talk of doing like a transitional film between
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  Speaker 3: the Kelvin crew and this new crew for the No
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  Speaker 3: Holly movie. So they were going to think about making
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  Speaker 3: some sort of like movie with the two of them
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  Speaker 3: tied together, and then that way you could have the
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  Speaker 3: No Holly crew for their independent film, but that never
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  Speaker 3: happens to like their own kind of version of Generations.
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  Speaker 3: And then also doing a storyline about a virus just
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  Speaker 3: after COVID probably not something people want to watch. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so that's kind of what tanked it. But I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: would would you want to watch a story about a
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  Speaker 3: virus now it's a few years away removed?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I just want to watch something good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at, Like, I don't
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  Speaker 3: care that it's a virus or not at this point,
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  Speaker 3: like virus has happened. Yeah, give me as long as
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  Speaker 3: it's good. Sure, you know. But yeah, so that is
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  Speaker 3: all the Star Trek news today. Well, should we get
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  Speaker 3: into the the main topic or supplemental spotlight? I should say.
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  Speaker 2: We have to, I know, I know, sure, I.
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  Speaker 3: Have so many things to say about this movie. All right,
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  Speaker 3: you're so we're gonna blame Scott because it was totally
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  Speaker 3: his idea to watch this film.
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  Speaker 2: This is the son of a Bitch Bowders picked this
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  Speaker 2: movie for.
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  Speaker 3: This the way this is like egging our house and
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  Speaker 3: running off. So but uh, yes, So this is the
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty four film Red One. It's a Christmas kind
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  Speaker 3: of sci fi, kind of mythology movie, just all sorts
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  Speaker 3: of problems. This was originally released in theaters and then
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  Speaker 3: like like it was released in theaters and within two
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  Speaker 3: weeks it was also on Amazon Prime. Yeah, because it's
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  Speaker 3: an Amazon movie. Yeah. It stars Dwayne the Rock Johnson
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  Speaker 3: and Captain America Chris Evans. This is also the movie
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  Speaker 3: that had the very troubled production where the reports came
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  Speaker 3: out that The Rock was peen and jars and would
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: always come to the set like super late because he
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: had to get his work out in. So yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, So the film is basically what's his name? JK. Simmons?
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  Speaker 2: Is that his name?
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  Speaker 3: Yep? J Simmons? Yeah, yeah, who's.
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  Speaker 2: Who's kind of jacked? Yeah a little bit. He must
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  Speaker 2: have been working out with with Dwayne during this.
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  Speaker 3: Uh he got jacked for Justice League and then they
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  Speaker 3: never did anything with that.
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  Speaker 2: He got jacked for Justice League.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because he was Commissioner Gordon.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I never thought of Commissioner Gordon as like someone
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  Speaker 2: that need to be jacked.
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  Speaker 3: But I know, but that's what he did. He was like, Oh,
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go get Jack. I'm gonna play Comissioner Gordon.
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  Speaker 2: So well. I mean originally, the first time I saw
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  Speaker 2: him was in a show called OZ. I don't remember OZ.
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  Speaker 2: That was on the prison show HBO. Yeah, okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he was the white supremacist in that. So he wasn't
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: he wasn't. I mean, he was never like Dwayne Johnson jacked,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, he was a formidable guy that That
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  Speaker 2: was thirty thirty years ago. But anyway, so he plays
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  Speaker 2: he plays Santa Claus or Big Red or Red one
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  Speaker 2: or whatever what is this called Red Red One? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Red one Eye. Dwayne Johnson plays his head of security.
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  Speaker 2: The unit is called E l F ha ha ha ha.
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember what what ELF is an acronym for.
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  Speaker 2: But long story short, Santa Claus gets gets kidnapped. Chris
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  Speaker 2: Evans is the the hacker that locates him for the
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  Speaker 2: bad guys and the movie It's a Buddy, It's a
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  Speaker 2: Buddy not cop movie of Dwayne Johnson, uh security director
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: for Santa Claus and scumbag Captain America teaming up to
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  Speaker 2: travel the world and find him. In hilarity ensues. That's
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  Speaker 2: basically the gist.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of Christmas lore in there. You
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  Speaker 3: got Crampus, who they in this movie is the brother
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: of Santa. Apparently the North Pole and Santa's Workshop works
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  Speaker 3: in conjunction with the military to achieve Christmas. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's every toy store in the world has a
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  Speaker 2: portal in the back closet that can instantly transport you
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  Speaker 2: to any other toy store in the world. So basically
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  Speaker 2: like there's there's transwarp conduits in the back room of
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  Speaker 2: every every toy store. Yeah, which opens up some questions.
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  Speaker 2: I mean when Toys r Us went under, I mean
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  Speaker 2: that must have decimated the the transwarp network. Yeah, well
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  Speaker 2: that was that was my other question. So, like, does
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  Speaker 2: does the back room in the corner of Macy's where
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  Speaker 2: they sell toys, does that have a portal?
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  Speaker 3: That's a great question.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Does the that that aisle and Walgreens that one side
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: of it is like school supplies on the other side
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: his matchbox cars, and does that have a portal? I don't,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, I know yeah, what about what
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: about other kinds of toys?
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, adult, Yeah, that's a whole different portal. It is
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: also in the back.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean what if if I have to go
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: through beads to get to that room anyway? Anyway, Yeah,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: So Dwayne Johnson is uh, he's you know, the Secrets
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Santa's Secret Service, He's the Triple S. He's not human
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: apparently because he's a couple of years old. He's in
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: l he's got he's got a device on his on
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: his wrist. He can turn toys into real life things.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: So he spends half the movie.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: What do you say, just the reality? Yeah, which, yeah,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: that that whole thing is the weirdest plot device that
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: should have fixed so many problems, but the yea, Yeah.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what this movie was
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: supposed to be. It's not a kid's movie.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: It's not.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Because I'm watching it and uh, you know some of
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: the language in it, it's not a it's not a
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: kid's movie. Yeah, but I'm watching it and I'm thinking,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: properly edited, this could be a kid's movie. Right. They
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: made the decision to edit it this way and make
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: it this way, So who were they targeting with this
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: y because I didn't enjoy it. I'm gonna be honest.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: I didn't finish it. Oh I tried. I tried real hard.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I watched about seventy five percent of it. Okay, clock
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: clock was ticked, the show was, you know, the show
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: was coming up, and I said, I gotta eat something
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: before this this. Uh. So I don't know if they
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: saved Christmas. I guess I'll never know unless you tell me, Daniel.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah they did, they did. Congratulations?
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: All right, good? Yeah, good tonight?
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah I can Uh.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Did they also save Captain America's relationship with his son?
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: So you know they did? You know they did? Yeah?
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: I had so many problems with this movie on just
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: a structural level too, Like it didn't make any sense
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: to me. That So in the film, the Rocks character
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: and spoilers because who cares. Uh, the Rocks character is
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: kind of like bitter and angry and he's done with
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Christmas because he sees that people are are negative and
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: so he doesn't want to take part in anything like
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: that anymore, whereas Santa is like, hey, you know, there's
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: good in people, and we can you know, we got
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: to show them a better way. Yeah, I think this
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: film would have been a slightly more interesting, especially since
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: you added the component that the rock was was kind
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: of negative if he somehow took part in the capture
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: but not not realizing that's what he was doing, right,
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: like like he's.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: Somehow or that or or he thought the uh, the
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: bad people told him we're gonna do something to Santa
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: to to make him understand that the world doesn't deserve
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: his goodness, right, and so he's somehow lowered the security
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: and and so it's his fault and now he's trying.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: To uh make a make amends for what he did
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: and by saving Santa, right, you could have done that
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: and that way both guys, both leads have a part
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: to play in the failure, and now they both have
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: different reasons for wanting to save Santa. That would have helped.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: I think it also didn't make any sense that he's
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: like constantly quoting how Santa is so good and Santa's
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: he's the best in people.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, well then why are you abandoning him?
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Then? Yeah? Yeah. My other question the entire time is like,
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: all right, so you're quitting your job, what are you
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: going to do your mythical creature. Where are you gonna go?
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like do you do you have money? Are you
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: gonna go? Like? Move to Ohio? What are you doing?
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: So when I watch, when I watch a movie, a
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: couple of different things happen or can happen if I'm
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: invested in the story.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: I will start running scenarios in my head of how
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: this will play out if I'm not invested in the story.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: At some point, I stop doing that, right and I
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: and I start I start kind of picking it apart
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: as I as I watch it, and once that ball
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: starts rolling, it just it just snowballs. So you can't
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: come back from that. But another thing that I start
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: doing is I start considering not considering the characters, but
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I start considering the actors, and I start thinking what
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: brought them to this project and how does this project
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: impact their career going forward? And I started, and it's
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: gonna sound weird, feeling sorry for a multimillionaire, but I
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: started feeling sorry for Chris Evans. Yes, I'm watching because
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at him and he's, you know, he's given
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: it his all and he's trying. Sure, he's definitely trying
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed. I enjoyed some of his interactions with other
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: characters in the film. He's funny, he's high. But yeah,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: but this movie is a turd. And and I and
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I started thinking, like you know you have when you're famous,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: when you're famous for one particular character, which he is.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: If you point, if you grab anybody off the street
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: and ask them who Christians is, if they know who
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: he is, they're going to say he's Captain Murry. When
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: you're famous for one role like that, you have a
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: finite number of stinkers that you can be a part
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: of before before no one's going to take a chance
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: on you again. Right, And I don't know what other
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: stuff he's done, but we're about to see him as
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Captain America again. Yes, And it kind of looks like,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: you know, branching out didn't work, going back to what
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: I'm famous for, And I think that can negatively impact
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: his career going forward. I think he's going to be
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: own Captain America unless he can unless he can attach
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: himself to something good soon, he's going to be tast
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: and and that's gonna be it for him. And that
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: makes it.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's quite as dire as that
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: for him, because he has had other roles since then,
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Like he was he was in that show The Gray
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Man on Netflix. Okay, yeah, he was in. There was
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: a movie that came out or earlier this year called
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: The Materialists. He was in that. I'm looking up his
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: IMDb right now. He did already kind of return in
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Deadpool and Wolverine, So I don't think it's that bad
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: for him. But I do think that they pulled up
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: the dump trunk of money and got him into this movie.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: I don't think this is something he would have just done.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: I'm still waiting on my dump truck.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure, right, I look out.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: The windows every morning. Yeah stop pulling up.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, same, same. But from what I've read about
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: the making of this movie, it was such a nightmare
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: to do. It was. Yeah, the budget of this film
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: ballooned astronomically. Like it was supposed to be like one
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty million. It ended up costing like two
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty million for something that was originally going
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: to go straight onto Amazon. So insane. They did release
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: it in theaters for like two weeks. They mostly broke
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: even give or take, so whatever. I'm not crying if
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Amazon loses one hundred and fifty million because they're billions
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: and billions of dollars, so sure they're fine. Yeah, yeah,
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: I don't think it matters to them. Jeff Bezos will
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: will be okay.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: But it's I don't so ridiculous now that the tile
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: and all in my house is Amazon brand. Yeatteries in
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: my house are Amazon brand?
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: Right? Yes, it's insane. Yeah, yeah, I don't.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: I was walking down the street, million dollars on the sidewalk.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't be worth his time to bend over and
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: pick it up, right right, It will be more cost
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: effective for him to keep walking.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I don't think will be Seen or Red two,
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: so you know, but this is the movie to also
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: that made the Rock go like, oh I need to
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: do other stuff, and he made that was it Smashing Machine?
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: The the USC Fighter movie that he did recently where
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: he's trying to be a real actor and he's trying
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: to get nominated for for an Academy Award with it,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: like he's he's out there campaigning for that right now. Yeah,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: so I didn't, Yeah, nobody did. It flopped pretty hard?
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah ah wait he game. Now we're getting questions Black Adam.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Black Adams sealed the deal. Black Adams sealed the deal.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: For me, Yeah for sure. Yeah yeah. Now we're getting
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: questions about Captain America returning to the MCU. So nobody
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: cares about Red One. Yeah that's fine. So yeah, look,
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: if you got I don't know kids like between I
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: don't know, seven and eleven, maybe this might be a
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: fun movie for them. But even then, like the language
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: is kind of like I don't know if you it's
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: not all the time, but it is there, so yeah, yeah,
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: which is surprising because Captain America language.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: But yeah, uh.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: The The other kind of funny thing for me is
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: if you know, you know that that dained the Rox
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Johnson's former or his ex wife is a woman named
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Danny Garcia, and so the number okay, so she's his
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: is his producing partner. So even though there access, they
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: still work together all the time, so they have a
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: decent relationship. So fine, But the giant polar bear creature
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: who's like the number two at the at the North
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Pole is named Garcia. So that's kind of funny if
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: you know that, right. Yeah, So that cracked me up.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: The entire time. But whatever I mean, is this movie
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: horrifically offensively bad?
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: No?
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: But is it dumb? And just got it? Just it happens,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: you'll forget about it. You know, three years from now
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: we'll be like, did we watch that one? Like it's
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: completely forgettable. So yeah, yeah, that's what it is. But yeah, so, uh,
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: let's get to listener feedback, because who cares about this movie.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Listener feedback?
• 34:36
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• 34:38
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• 34:41
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• 34:45
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• 34:50
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• 35:24
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• 35:26
  Speaker 3: the phone though, you're just leaving a voicemail, and yeah,
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: we did post in the group that we were going
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: to be reviewing this movie, and we ended up just
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: getting a lot of laugh reactions like oh my god,
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: I can't believe you guys are gonna talk about this movie.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so sorry, sorry everyone, sorry.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well this is what the last track cast
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: of the year. It sounds like that's probably what we're
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: doing here. So yeah, so I guess going out with
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: the bang. Yeah yeah, yeah. I kind of look at
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: the schedule to to kind of see what we could
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: do upcoming, because we got after after New Year's there's
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: two weeks and then and then uh everyone's favorite Starfleet
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Academy releases. So my thought is on the fourth, which
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: is the would be the next show back, we do
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: the awards, who won which we need you guys to
• 36:25
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• 36:28
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• 36:34
  Speaker 3: There is a lot of Shenanigan's going on right now
• 36:36
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• 36:39
  Speaker 3: your shows to win or your cast members to win,
• 36:43
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• 36:48
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• 36:52
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• 36:53
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: But the so so the fourth, we can do the
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: award winners the eleventh, which would be the next show.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: After that, we can do predictions for Stirfleet Academy, which
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: I imagine the predictions is pain. But there you go.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: So and we got track and we got jazz Biz,
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: so let's bring him on the line. There you go, Hey,
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: jazz Bis. Did did you watch Red One?
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: I watched it last year in the theater? Oh wow,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: for the two weeks is in there?
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: Yes? Wow, yes, sucker, Yeah.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Poor guys, I want to watch it again.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Not really no, Yeah.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Did you did you get the Red One popcorn bucket
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: last year?
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: You know, I think that was before the popcorn buckets, so,
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: oh wow, before they really took off.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: And I remember saying it and about the only good
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: thing that came out was.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Or you know the only thing I liked about this
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: movie is Crampus. Actually that part because we see cramp
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you got up to that part, Dan,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: did you?
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I did? That's about That's about where I checked out.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: So what's that is?
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Sleigh was awesome?
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Oh? I didn't see a sleigh.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it reminded me of Lobo's like motorcycle kind of.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: It's pretty pretty wicked, but the movie itself is dumpster fire.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: So yeah, where where you You know?
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: I agree with you about Chris Evans. I don't think
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: you know, it's sad that he has to come back
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: as Captain America.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: You know, it's don't really wrong. I absolutely, I absolutely
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: want to see him.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Well, I want to see Downing Bag, you know.
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, about the only person that's not coming back is
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: Scarlett Johansson so.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well because her character is dead.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: Well, her character is dead, but I think she's really
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: mad at Disney.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I was gonna say her relationship with Disney
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: is better than her character.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, well you know, a dumb truck full of
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: money changes things, so.
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, And you know, did you guys anybody see
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: Avatar this weekend and see the preview.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: For I'm supposed to go see it today, okay, which
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: I have no interest in these movies. I'm going with
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: my friend. She really wants to go.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Just to warn you, they get captured, so.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Oh great, yeah yeah, yeah, no.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, is there a preview for event
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: just with avatar? Is that why you're yeah, yes, Do
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: you want to spoil it for us? Or or does
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Daniel not want it to be spoiled?
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: No, I've seen I've seen the trailer he hit online.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: Nothing, there's nothing that's going to spoil it for you. Yeah,
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: it's just you hear the music and he's walking into
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: a house and he picks.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Up it's Chris Evans walking into a house.
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, slowly walking into a house, and you hear the
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: interesting playing really slowly, and then he picks up a baby,
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: and it says Steve Rogers will return.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Pretty much.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah. The thor one is also leaked. Oh, thor one
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: is like praying to Odin something along the lines, so
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: like father, help your your son, I want to reconnect
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: to the woman I love and something along those lines.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: And then it says what's interesting is so it says
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Steve Rogers not captain America. And then for for the
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: thor one it says the god of Thunder will return
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: not for So that's oh, a couple of things.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: First, I think I saw the thor one and I
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: wasn't sure. I wasn't sure it was real.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's real.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Secondly, if they say Steve Rogers, if we know that
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Chris Evans is returning, and they say Steve Rogers will return,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: they don't see Captain America will return if he had
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: a son with her and he's Steve Rogers Junior. I mean,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: we don't know that he's playing the same character when
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: he comes back. He may be playing his own son.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, the son would be what seventy.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, something like that, mid seventies.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but he's got super soldiers, superhuman. You know,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: he gave uh, he gave Peggotty the old super Soldier injection,
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: and nine months later there was a little old super Soldier.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: She got a read. Yeah, yeah, maybe man maybe Yeah,
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Who knows, Yeah, who knows. We'll see
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: how it turns out. But apparently there's like.
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: A whole diagram behind you, like how all these movies
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: are interconnected in all the characters.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Steve, the reports are every week it will
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: be a different Avengers trailer for four weeks. So the
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: reports are first week is Captain America or Steve Rogers,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: second weekes Thore, third week is the Doom trailer, and
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: then the fourth week is the actual movie trailer?
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: Oh cool, so then we'll get you know, anybody's gonna
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: is it gonna be playing Black Panther?
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: We don't know, We don't know, they said when they
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: did the chair revealed, remember that big like it was
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: all day long and they did the chairs. Yeah, they
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: said that was like half the cast that the other
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: half has not been revealed.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: So how long is this movie gotta be?
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: Because you have so many people in here that everybody
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: wants the time?
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: Well in a yeah, yeah, if they do the uh
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: the the structure that they used in Endgame where it
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: was Thanos but he was just interacting with everybody. I
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: imagine a lot of these characters are like one two
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: scenes and they're done. I think it'll be doom dealing
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: with everybody. So yeah, we'll see, but a waiting game.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Did ask a relevant start your question?
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Though? Uh?
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: Did you guys see the academy poster, the one that
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: looks like one treeo? But who do they think is
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: going to watch the show? They're not going to watch it? Hello, Yeah,
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: that's that's a pretty rough poster.
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: He got.
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: Huh, ask you guys, what did you guys think of
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: the clip last week of the show.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the little four minute clip with Paul Jimoni
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: and and and there he's attacking the academy.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: I want to hear dance feedback on this.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't, you don't want to. You know this,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: this sounds terrible coming from the host of a Star
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Trek podcast, but I really have zero interest in watching
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: this show after seven years of discovery and it was
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: only five seasons, but it was seven years. You know,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: it's just it's gonna be more of the same. It's
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be super woke, like overboard woke. You know.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: People say, oh, Star Trek was always woke. It was,
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: and this is that much further than that. That's the thing,
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: you know. And this is gonna sound totally shallow. Starfleet
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: officer should not be overweight, full stop.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: And I you know, I'm not the epitome of you know,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: human perfection. But also I'm also not a starfleet officer,
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: not a military officer. Yeah, but if you if you
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: walk the hallways of the Pentagon and you saw colonels
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: looking the way the chief Medical officer or or the
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: science officer whoever love in that clip, you would look
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: down on that person.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: And yeah, it's not realistic, it's.
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: Not yeah what just it's the Jim Hadar Like they've
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: kind of deep bald everybody.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: I hate to say, they kind of neutered all. You're like, yep, yeah,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: I they're supposed to be like badass. It made him
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: kind of soy voys so.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: Well, I I I hope they explain it and have
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: a good explanation, but I really doubt they're going to
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: or the explanation we get is going to be bad.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: I really think they're just not going to explain it
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: and just whatever, it's move on.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think you have great actors in here.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul Gimony is great. Yeah, great, Yeah.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: So great actors.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: You know, the dog is coming back and he's always good.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: You know, I love the doctor. Yeah. So I mean,
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: I I I want it to be good, but I'm
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: from what I see it does not look good.
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: And that poster right there that they're right there, it's
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: really hurt that.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like this almost got universally panned. This poster, yes,
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: because it confirmed people's fears, right yep. Yeah, like yeah,
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: it so wants to be something else other than Star Trek.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Like if this was if this was like Space Academy
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: and just like a sci fi show about recruits in
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: space and whatever like, it wouldn't be as offensive.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, it's fine. Then I then I could ignore
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: it and not be angry.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: About it, right right, right, exactly, yes, exactly.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: And it's not bringing in the new generation of viewers.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the other thing, man, like the whole when
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: they brought on Kurtzman, it was going to be Star
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: Trek every week, and we're gonna increase the popularity of
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: the franchise. You know, we should we should check that
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: the the stats like on Google trends. How Star Trek
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: doing that would be interesting to see? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: we may do a show.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: Here's here's the thing to circle back to to something
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: we talked about earlier. And I know I've said this before,
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: but I'm gonna say, ah, if you keep consuming the
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: crap that they put in front of you, they will
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: continue to make that crap. Right. So in the same
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: way that the uh great material continuum ebbs and flows,
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of the same thing we were
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: talking about earlier. With the licensing licensing fees, they raise
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: the licensing fees, they lose licensees because they have less licensees,
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: they'll have to lower the licensing fees and then draw
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: in more licensees. The same thing's going to happen eventually
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: when people say I'm not gonna watch this, this is ship,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna watch it to not get my money right,
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: And then they're going to see that it's not profitable,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: and they're going to look at the data and say,
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: when was it profitable. Oh, it was profitable these years.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: In those years we were doing these things. Let's do
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: more of those things, right, So I don't know if
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch it.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: You're honest. I'm glad you're not like sugarcoating anything. Being
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: on honest.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: You know that's your opinion here.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: So I got the Google trends from.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: The problem is part of the part of the problem
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: is checkies themselves. Okay, because I am being honest, and
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: if I'm honest like this in some of these groups online,
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: I get called a bigot because the opposite of woke
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: apparently is bigot or whatever. Yes, yes, yes, me wanting
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: a click on to act like a klingones makes me
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: a bigot. Then I'm a bigot. If mere watching a
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: military officer to look like a military officer and act
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: like a military officer, if that makes me a bigot,
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: then I guess some of the thick. So I don't know.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know where to go from.
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: And where's our good science, Like there's like we missed
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: our strange New worlds and we missed her.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're the strange new worlds and strange new worlds. Yeah, yeah,
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: So I got the trends up here to see because
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: like we were talking about, like they were supposed to
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: make Star Trek more popular, right, and the interest over time.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: You can see these three big spikes, they all correlate
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: when the movies came out. So yeah, yeah, two thousand
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: and nine, giant spike, you know, into darkness there you
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: go in twenty thirteen, and then beyond in twenty sixteen.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: But it flatlined.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: It is it went from like the Google trend numbers
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: are like compared to other numbers, so when it says
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: like thirteen or fourteen twenty five, it's all comparative to
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: other search terms. But look at man, it is just
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: it went from double digits to now it's in singles.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: You can see where Discovery came out right there that.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: Little yeah, you can kind of see we're yeah, little
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: blips maybe like a pre card and right around here.
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: But it is just it's dropping interest. It's not getting
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: any better. Now. You can argue, well, nothing is as
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: popular as it used to be because people have so
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: many alternatives for entertainment, right Star Trek isn't just competing
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: against other sci fi shows. They're competing against like twitch
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: streamers and TikTok and and you know, video games and like,
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: so yeah, that's an argument for sure, but it's just
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: it's gone downhill really bad, and like that's the numbers,
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: Like that's.
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: Not you know, I think not having it syndicated on
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: other platforms hurts. Like they should have syndicated like Discovery
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: and put it on Netflix let other people watch it.
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: I mean it was they wanted to grow. Yeah, shows
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: that you could do that right now.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: Well, their argument, their argument at the time was that
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: Star Trek was so popular. It's one of the things
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: that made Netflix Netflix.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: People watched the old Star Trek. It was extremely popular
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: still was up until they had it and then but
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: but when that happened, you know, Paramount was like, oh
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: we could do our own streaming service. We can make
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: Starfreik one of the co Star Trek one of the Cornerstones,
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: and people will come to us instead, which kind of worked,
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: but not really. You know, the big thing that Paramount
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: Plus is now known for is all the Yellowstone shows
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: and the Taylor Sheridan shows, basically land Man, and they
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: lost him to Universe. Yeah, they just lost him to Universal.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: So but we get the Duffer brothers on Paramount.
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: So we will be soon. But you know, yeah, do
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: they have more magic other than stranger things?
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: We don't know exactly.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so but yeah, start for the Academy. Man, it's
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: gonna be rough. But you know.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: How many episodes ten, eight, twelve?
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: Too many? I have no idea. We'll find out.
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: Well, do you kind of wish they'd just dump them
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: all at once like they do on Netflix? Just just
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: finish it, just binge watch it all. On this show,
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: we wanted to go every week.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: Well, if we're somehow.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: They dumped ten at once. If they dump ten at
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: once and the first two are horrid, I'm not watching
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: the other eight, yeah, so putting them out, putting them
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: out once a week, It's kind of like it gives
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: me false hope, like, well, yeah, that was terrible, but
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: next week we'll be better. Yeah, next week will be better,
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: and I'll tune in next week. And that was pretty bad,
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: but you know they're not going to do three stinkers
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: in a row, so I mean they'll lie to me.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Over ten weeks will probably be better.
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, if it's good, it's I would want it
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: to be weak. I know, I'm just saying. If it's good,
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: I would want it to be week to week.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: And I want a pictures of what you guys look
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: like of the series. Yeah, they look happy, they like.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: I desperately want it to be good. I want I
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: want to be so wrong. I want to be I
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: want to come on the show. I want to come
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: on the show and be like, hey guys, I'm here
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: to eat this big giant bowl of crow because this
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: show is amazing. I don't know what I was talking about.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: I desperately want that to be the case. I don't
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: think that's gonna be the case.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: I don't think so either, but I want to be wrong.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: So there you go.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: This could be the red one of Star trek.
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: Oh. I don't know. I don't know right now, we
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: do have the awards, like I said, going, and I
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: won't spoil anything, but people need to vote because you
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: would be surprised what's in the lead right now.
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: So yeah, are you saying that Bowder's family may be
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: voted several times? I don't know, but yeah, because I
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: know last year, I have a feel in that.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, people need to vote or else we are
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: gonna get a crazy new year. When the awards are.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: They are they citizens? Those Bowders people, I don't even
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: think they're allowed.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: To vote, Federation citizens. I don't know.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna call Cashtel have him look.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: At it toy in Michigan.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: That that's uh that click on picture of him.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yah yeah
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: pretty good. Uh yeah, So go vote people. And then
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: the other thing we got going is our trek Cast
• 56:17
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• 56:21
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• 56:26
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• 56:34
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• 56:37
  Speaker 3: we wrap it up.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: I think that's it.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, thanks everybody for listening. We'll catch you guys
• 56:45
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• 57:02
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