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The Hottest of Topics | RHOA Trailer, RHOBH, & RHOP Reunion · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey
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  Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
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  Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. In
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well, we have.
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  Speaker 2: To get into Real Housewives of Belly Hills. It is
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  Speaker 2: the first time we're talking about this show, but I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to bring this clip to you guys. So rain Drops,
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  Speaker 2: if you're watching Billy Hills Housewives, you know there's a
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  Speaker 2: new cast member named Bows and Bows is going through
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  Speaker 2: her fertility journey. She sat down with her fiance and
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  Speaker 2: her daughter, who's like sixteen years old. She talks to
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  Speaker 2: him about the fact that listen similar to Quad's journey,
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  Speaker 2: the eggs unfortunately didn't take and she's contemplating starting go
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  Speaker 2: over again. But one thing she said was her fear
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  Speaker 2: of not giving her fiance a child because he does
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  Speaker 2: want one, he doesn't have any, and she was worried
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  Speaker 2: that will that would that lead resentment that you have
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  Speaker 2: for me, the fact that I was unable to produce
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  Speaker 2: a child.
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  Speaker 3: And then after that he.
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  Speaker 2: Mentioned, well how would you feel if I no longer
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  Speaker 2: had any income?
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  Speaker 3: So I want to start with Claudia with this one.
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  Speaker 2: You know, listen, do you think a lot of women
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  Speaker 2: are going through IVF because their man wants a child?
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  Speaker 2: And do you think it's fair that she's putting her
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  Speaker 2: body through all of this. She already has a kid,
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  Speaker 2: but she's doing it in fear of losing her man.
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  Speaker 4: I think Bose as successful and independent as she is.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think she's like a weak ass, pussy ass
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  Speaker 4: woman that would just do it just because of him.
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  Speaker 4: I think she has it in her. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: she would be talked into doing it. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: she'd be guilty into doing it. She strikes me as
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  Speaker 4: someone that's like, maybe it wasn't top of mind, but
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  Speaker 4: best believe I wouldn't do this if I didn't want
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  Speaker 4: to do it as well as well, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I mean?
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't feel that she's like, you know, woe
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  Speaker 4: is me, or it's like she's like just doing it for.
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  Speaker 5: Him, but I think that's actually a noble thing.
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  Speaker 4: To do something that maybe wasn't you know, you've already
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  Speaker 4: done and you want to do it for your partner
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  Speaker 4: so he can experience that same thing too.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's a beautiful thing. Shout out to her
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  Speaker 5: for doing that.
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  Speaker 4: But I also think that she may be underestimating herself
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  Speaker 4: and her worth.
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  Speaker 5: Like I think he'll be fine to be with her.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, he knew he was getting with an
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  Speaker 4: older woman, right and that's a possibility, and chose to
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  Speaker 4: love her anyways. I think he I think he loves
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  Speaker 4: her dirty draws and vice versa. And I think ideally
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  Speaker 4: they love to have a child. But I think that
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  Speaker 4: they are a couple that if they didn't, I think
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  Speaker 4: they will stand. I've seen them recently and the way her,
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  Speaker 4: the way she looks at him, Yeah, at the luncheon
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  Speaker 4: for the NAACP Awards, I mean for the the luncheon,
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  Speaker 4: and they just their vibe is just like you know,
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  Speaker 4: you meet a couple like I like them.
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  Speaker 5: I feel that I love that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think she's like trying to she's desperate to
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  Speaker 4: like hang on to him or I have to do this.
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna love him.
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  Speaker 4: I don'teel like she's doing it out of like like nervous,
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  Speaker 4: like a scarcity, like I'm gonna lose this man if
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  Speaker 4: I don't do it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't Dustin Ross.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know me.
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  Speaker 7: I'm all about a great scene, you know, black love
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  Speaker 7: being shown on the screen and what that represents. I
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  Speaker 7: love the way that they were openly communicating about some
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  Speaker 7: tough shit to talk about. She expressed one of her
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  Speaker 7: worst fears, which was him resenting her or blaming her
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  Speaker 7: for them not having success with their fertility journey. He
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  Speaker 7: revealed one of his worst fears, what if I fall off?
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  Speaker 7: Would you still love me? You know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 7: Like fifty said, So, I think that that was great communication.
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  Speaker 7: I love the fact that he led with clarity, right
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  Speaker 7: he said, Well, first of all, I still.
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  Speaker 6: Want to marry you. I love you.
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  Speaker 7: I want to be with you, kid or not, I
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  Speaker 7: still want He looked at her beautiful daughter, Layelle, and
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  Speaker 7: he said, I still want to call you step daughter
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  Speaker 7: or daughter at some point. It was just a very
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  Speaker 7: genuine conversation where each participant's intentions were made clear up front,
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  Speaker 7: and that's the kind of shit that works for me,
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  Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. We could talk about anything,
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  Speaker 7: and we lay the groundwork and then we know where
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  Speaker 7: we're coming from.
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  Speaker 6: Let's talk through it.
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  Speaker 7: I think that they definitely are in love, and her
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  Speaker 7: and her man look good together. He holds her down
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  Speaker 7: and allows her to shine as bright as she can
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  Speaker 7: because she's such a magnetic, powerful woman with a beautiful
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  Speaker 7: life that she's built through her work. It's a lot
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  Speaker 7: of layers here what I'm saying, so miss me, because
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  Speaker 7: I've seen a lot of the conversation about what he
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  Speaker 7: said are offering up that scenario, that worst case scenario
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  Speaker 7: about his income faltering.
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  Speaker 6: That was him being vulnerable and honest.
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  Speaker 7: There was not no red fucking flag or none of
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  Speaker 7: that other bullshit I saw people saying when they can't
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  Speaker 7: just appreciate a motherfucker having an adult conversation about important
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  Speaker 7: things that they need to talk about right with his
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  Speaker 7: beautiful black woman on television. And look right here, I
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  Speaker 7: don't trust him probably single. You know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 7: I don't say missus m aj spe Wow.
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  Speaker 3: So I just.
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  Speaker 7: Feel like, you know what I'm saying, Like I thought
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  Speaker 7: it was a great scene. I think him and Bo's
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  Speaker 7: gonna be all right. I love the way that they
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  Speaker 7: were communicating with each other.
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  Speaker 5: And look it worked out for Tammy Rowman and her Man,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like that's another example, Like
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  Speaker 5: she felt that pressure and when she let it go,
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  Speaker 5: they seem they seem very fine. I loved properly. I
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  Speaker 5: love that.
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  Speaker 3: How do I follow that? Watching you? Well, No, I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna do her proud.
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  Speaker 6: First of all, Damn, I love you.
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  Speaker 3: I was trying to keep my face straight. I'm very
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  Speaker 3: bad at it.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, I figured with everything I've heard thus far, and
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  Speaker 8: I think there's two things. Number One, the thing that
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  Speaker 8: people are misidentifying as a red flag I think is
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  Speaker 8: them missing context.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 8: Let's say doesn't want to do a comedy show and
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  Speaker 8: he was dating somebody amazing, and he was like, hey,
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  Speaker 8: this is something i'm trying out. If it works out, great,
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  Speaker 8: If it doesn't, I still have a million other things going.
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  Speaker 3: And then he's having a moment with.
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  Speaker 8: His partner and his partner's being like her, and then
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  Speaker 8: he says, well, if my comedy show didn't work out,
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  Speaker 8: would you still love me?
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  Speaker 3: And she's like, of course I would it.
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  Speaker 8: He's like exactly, I'm doing something that I care about,
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  Speaker 8: but even if it doesn't work out, I know that
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  Speaker 8: we're bigger than this thing, right, So I think they
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  Speaker 8: missed the context that he was probably referencing that I
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  Speaker 8: already know that you care about me regardless of money,
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  Speaker 8: the same way I need you to remember I care
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  Speaker 8: about your regardless of fertility. So I think people are
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  Speaker 8: like missing the context of the comment because it felt
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  Speaker 8: like an ongoing conversation between a couple where he already
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  Speaker 8: knew her answer was no, and was using as an
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  Speaker 8: analogy to make her realize, this means as little to
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  Speaker 8: me as as money means to you, because we love
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  Speaker 8: each other that much.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 8: Secondly, I think there's also some healing in the baby
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  Speaker 8: journey because she lost a child and then had a
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  Speaker 8: child with a man who passed away, so she does
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  Speaker 8: not know what it's like to have a father in
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  Speaker 8: her child's life who's even available, and so I think
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  Speaker 8: it's one of those things. And I think being Claudia
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  Speaker 8: touched about this when it comes to anything fertility related,
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  Speaker 8: you don't want false hope and you're open for beautiful surprises,
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  Speaker 8: and so she probably thought, Okay, this season of my
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  Speaker 8: life is over, and then meeting him reintroduced the possibility
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  Speaker 8: and gave her a chance to hope logically again. And
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  Speaker 8: so now she's like, Oh, I just just had a
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  Speaker 8: reason to hope, and now I'm having to grieve that.
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  Speaker 8: I'm gonna have to go back to resigning myself to
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  Speaker 8: maybe this season really is over. And so if you
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  Speaker 8: lost a child and have the opportunity to have another
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  Speaker 8: child with a man that you love in your second
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  Speaker 8: chapter of life, of course you're going to be excited
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  Speaker 8: about that in a way that you probably didn't know
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  Speaker 8: that you could ever be excited. And then to realize, oh,
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  Speaker 8: the eggs are not going to work out. There's a
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  Speaker 8: mourning in that, you know what I mean. So I
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  Speaker 8: don't think it's just about her being weak or not.
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  Speaker 8: I think she's mourning again something that she had already
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  Speaker 8: probably told her stuff to never having, And as a woman,
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  Speaker 8: there's a complicated vulnerability in that that her being able
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  Speaker 8: to say to him and him holding her to Dustin's
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  Speaker 8: point with so much care and intentionality.
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  Speaker 3: I actually think it was the opposite of a red flag.
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  Speaker 3: It was a green flag. To me, I agree with
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  Speaker 3: all three of you. I thought it was a green flag.
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  Speaker 2: Because of this, I think you're looking at two people
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  Speaker 2: over forty, right, and when you're dating over forty you
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  Speaker 2: have to have tough conversations. Everybody knows my journey of dating. Hey, Dustin,
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  Speaker 2: where you have because me, it doesn't talk where. I'm
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  Speaker 2: really big on having the tough conversations date one because
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  Speaker 2: I just I don't have time to waste. I think,
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  Speaker 2: and I think when you're when you're over a particular age,
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  Speaker 2: is an opportunity to make sure that you you're you're.
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  Speaker 3: Not just wasting time.
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  Speaker 2: And I tell everybody like, look, this ain't no shade,
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  Speaker 2: This ain't no no no be. If we're not aligned
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  Speaker 2: on the same path where we're going, then let's not
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  Speaker 2: waste each other's time.
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  Speaker 3: So I thought it was two people saying, look, are
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  Speaker 3: you gonna resent me?
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about it now so that I can move
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  Speaker 2: on from this and so the pain won't hurt as much.
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  Speaker 2: And I feel like he understands too. In this business
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  Speaker 2: of entertainment, me and Claudia talked about this too.
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  Speaker 3: This industry is broke, okay. The money that was here
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  Speaker 3: ten years ago has been and.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's a lot of people are getting laid off.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not just this industry, it's it is just
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  Speaker 2: the world we live in. The it's just the reality
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  Speaker 2: of where we are. So I thought, as a man,
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  Speaker 2: He's like, if I do lose my job, where does that?
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  Speaker 3: What does that mean for us?
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  Speaker 2: Because when it comes to a man, a man's identity
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  Speaker 2: oftentime lies in his profession.
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  Speaker 5: Sure does.
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  Speaker 4: I had a relationship go left because of a job
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  Speaker 4: change on his side, and I loved him, but I
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  Speaker 4: wanted to marry him, and we talk about getting married.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, it wasn't me wanting to leave him
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  Speaker 4: when it happened. It was him not feeling good about himself.
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  Speaker 3: There was no there was no.
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  Speaker 5: Nothing I could do. I couldn't love him do it.
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  Speaker 5: I couldn't.
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  Speaker 4: It's how he felt about himself next to me. He
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  Speaker 4: didn't want to walk down a red carpet. We didn't
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  Speaker 4: have his job, He didn't want any attention on him.
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  Speaker 5: He want none of that.
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  Speaker 4: And then anytime I got a booking, you know, his
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  Speaker 4: reaction definitely changed from when he had a job to
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  Speaker 4: did and it made me want to play small.
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  Speaker 5: And it just it's both people and it being miserable.
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  Speaker 8: You know, yeah, we sale men by not teaching them
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  Speaker 8: that they have more value out out of provision. I
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  Speaker 8: think as a society we fail men when it comes
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  Speaker 8: to their emotional intelligence about where their value lies. Because
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  Speaker 8: you can be in between blessings and you still have value,
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  Speaker 8: you know what I mean. And I think a lot
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  Speaker 8: of people don't know how to be in that gap
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  Speaker 8: between blessings. And I always say this, My issue was
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  Speaker 8: never with broke men. It's men who feel broken because
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  Speaker 8: they're broke. Because I can help you through a season,
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  Speaker 8: but if you hate yourself, to Claudia's point, there's nothing
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  Speaker 8: I can do to help you if you don't already
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  Speaker 8: like yourself.
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  Speaker 4: It was horrible to watch it because I knew it
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  Speaker 4: was temper and I'm like, you, I believe Them'm like,
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  Speaker 4: you're gonna be fine, Like it's gonna be a year
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  Speaker 4: max probably, and he you know.
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  Speaker 5: Got out of it. But it was after I couldn't
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  Speaker 5: take it anymore.
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  Speaker 4: Which is too it was too exact feet yeah now yep,
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  Speaker 4: mm hm, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But it was that period to where yeah, and that's
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  Speaker 3: that's real, Claudia.
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  Speaker 4: Vibrate because it was so serious. When I break up though,
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  Speaker 4: like usually and it's like painful like that. I go
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  Speaker 4: full no contact, full no contact because like I was,
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  Speaker 4: you know when it's heartbreaking like that, because if not,
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  Speaker 4: you'll stop finding yourself compromising with being with like a
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  Speaker 4: shell of the persson you had.
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  Speaker 5: So I just got all the way out of the way,
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  Speaker 5: all the way out of the way. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 5: wish you well.
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  Speaker 6: I did.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm Augury. I think I think bows and.
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  Speaker 6: Is a Keenan KILLI Killy Hilly, Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I think I think both and Kelly will be fine.
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  Speaker 2: So up next, the Real Housewives of Atlanta Season seventeen
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  Speaker 2: trailer came out, and a lot of people had a
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  Speaker 2: lot to say, including are very on.
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  Speaker 3: Claudia Jordan, who trended on Twitter over the weekend. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: and before I get the opinions.
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  Speaker 2: Of Dustin and Blue and even myself, rain drops, let
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  Speaker 2: us on the comments. What you thought of the Reyal
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  Speaker 2: Housewives of Atlanta Season subventeen trailer. Claudia, you were at
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  Speaker 2: the na A c P Image of War. You look
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  Speaker 2: absolutely Yes.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you, good friend, thank you all of you.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 4: Gorgeous black designer, black designer, Sir Algernon, black designer, that
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  Speaker 4: made it from scratch.
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  Speaker 5: I had one fitting and fit perfectly.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, Erica is beautiful too.
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  Speaker 5: That blue on her skin just Wallace just gorgeous. But
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  Speaker 5: okayd So, Claudia.
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  Speaker 2: You made a comment about the Real Housewives of Atlanta trailer.
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  Speaker 2: You said it was giving love and hip hop, and
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  Speaker 2: you are looking to see more reality shows where it's
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  Speaker 2: it's less drama.
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  Speaker 3: Still some drama, but less attack.
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  Speaker 2: So want to make sure I got you, you know,
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  Speaker 2: yeah yeah, And a lot of people had it was
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  Speaker 2: a mixed mixed reviews. So I would like for you
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  Speaker 2: to explain your opinion based on why do you think
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  Speaker 2: that the Royal House Spots Atlanta trailer gave love and
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  Speaker 2: hip hop?
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  Speaker 4: Everyone's saying it, but I'm bold enough to say this
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  Speaker 4: shit on a red carpet in my designer gown for
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  Speaker 4: Image Award that I'm nominated for. Okay, so be mad
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  Speaker 4: and every time, can we just put this one narrative
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  Speaker 4: to bed. I am being asked my opinion of a show.
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  Speaker 4: It is not me asking the interviewer.
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  Speaker 5: Can I can I talk about it a lot of housewives?
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  Speaker 5: Because I want to be on there so badly? Please stop?
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  Speaker 4: I'm asked the question, as well as a lot of
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  Speaker 4: other things I asked me. So now that we got
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  Speaker 4: that out the way, I get sick and tired of
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  Speaker 4: having to say this and explain it like I'm talking
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  Speaker 4: to five year olds like as opined as people on
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  Speaker 4: the comments who have zero experience on television shows, in.
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  Speaker 5: The business or even around these people.
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  Speaker 4: At least I have a year in there, right, so
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  Speaker 4: I am more than qualified to speak on this, even
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  Speaker 4: if I never had a day on a set of
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  Speaker 4: a reality show. Much like you guys are all in
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  Speaker 4: the comments, neighborhood talk, this shade room, boss up, ball
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  Speaker 4: of Alert, Hollywood Unlocked, y'all'll be doing the thing.
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  Speaker 5: So can we just get that out the way.
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  Speaker 4: We're all equal, we can all speak on the things
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  Speaker 4: that we see now, and we have that out the way. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: it looked a little bit different this year, but I wasn't.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not necessarily mad at it. I actually think the
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  Speaker 4: trailer to me seems a little interesting and exciting. I'm
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  Speaker 4: I'm interested in seeing Pinky Pinky storyline.
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  Speaker 5: I really am now and I didn't know much about her.
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  Speaker 4: Like, yes, it gave love and hip hop, and then
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  Speaker 4: the attack was, well you're on Love and Hip Hop.
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  Speaker 5: Yes the fuck I am. You know why because we're
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  Speaker 5: in a recession and they saved me.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so until I get my Dallas show in New York,
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  Speaker 4: I will take a four or five figure check to
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  Speaker 4: make an appearance on a show.
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  Speaker 5: I will be on Zeus, I will be on v
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  Speaker 5: H one. All that ship. There is an instagram, y'all
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  Speaker 5: can call me.
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  Speaker 4: I will do low end t B movies, medium and
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: t B movies, movie that in the theaters.
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: And did I'll do all that Sam high.
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: I pay all my bills. My mortgage is ridiculous. My
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: car insurance is seven hundred dollars. My home insurance is
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: more than that. Like my bills are high.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: So yes, y'all.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: My house is beautiful and it's being remodeled. I still
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: have like about three more things I want to do
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: that are going to be like a lot of money.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: So guess what I will be not too many, not
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: too many renovations.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I will be with the Love and Hip Hop.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: And Drew called me and said, I want you to
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: come do some stuff with Atlanta.
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: I will be there.
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: I will be the Tie of the I'll be the
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: straight version of Tie I'll be on all the reality shows.
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: Okay, but I have a contract. Oh you said it, Okay,
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: I said, listen, when have I not? Okay?
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: So I need Jesus, Okay, Okay. So what I said was, yes,
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: it was given more love and hip hop, but I
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: wasn't dragging it. I actually thought the news the trailer
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: looks interesting. I think it looks interesting, but it definitely
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: y'all could be a delusion on y'all in the watching.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: Y'all can be delusion if you want and fool yourself
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: to act like what we see now is anything like
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: what Housewives was five years ago, six years ago.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: It's not.
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: It looks different.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: The tone is different. It's more aggressive. It's more like,
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: you know, and I don't mean that as a dig
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: at black women. Don't get me wrong, Okay, It's just
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: it's more like fiery. Before it was more like verbal jars.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: But now you see people getting ready to buck up
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: and all that.
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: I'm not. I'm not actually mad at it looks like
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: it's interesting.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: But then I also said on that same interview, which
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: no one picked this part up, everybody says they they
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: talk shit about the shows that are that are ghetto
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: or fighting, or the love and hip hops or the zeuses.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: But then when people try to do positive reality shows
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: with less drama, what do y'all do? You don't support
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: it with the ratings like you do the shows that
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: have all the drama. So which one do you want?
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: Six or seven? Which one do you want?
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Lord?
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: What do y'all want?
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, I like the bougie style of housewives show,
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: and I'm also kind of here for this next season.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: I think it looks like it's gonna be interesting. So,
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: in the words of d MX, what your niggas want
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: from me?
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: I don't really know.
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: What do y'all want from me? I'm always wrong to
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: some of y'all. I'm always wrong.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: I'm always wrong when I say the same things y'all
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: saying on your group chat. But it's because me and
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: I did one season. I can't speak on it.
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: Fuck y'all. How about that.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Tonight?
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: Yes, my iron is coming back.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: I think I see your friend it is it is
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: you have a lot of iron, Mike Ty said. So
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: the thing is this like that, this is reality with
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back in
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: to the show. I will say this.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I respectfully disagree with you, right, and that that's the
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: beauty of this channel.
• 19:09
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: I did not get love and hip Hop when I
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: watched it. I understood what you were trying to say
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: in terms of.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: In terms of the tone you felt. I felt like
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: you were talking about the tone and that's what so
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I didn't get that. I watched it. I enjoyed it.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: I thought, listen, trailers nowadays are just a snapshot, but
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: the season is. I do agree that trailers no longer
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: are a coming attraction or sneak peek of the full movie.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: It really isn't trailers. Back in my day, trailers were
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: you put your best foot forward. And I think nowadays
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: for social media, a lot of networks don't want to
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: give too much away, and I also think they try
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: to scale things back, and unfortunately it just leads people
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: coming up with different scenarios, whether it's it's too much
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: or it's too less.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Because I did think people say they were underwhelmed by it, right.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: The thing that I saw was listen, this is a
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: whole new world in terms of what they're entering. Came
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Michelle's on It, Pinkies on It, and I thought, for me,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: it was a trailer that gave me enough to where
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to the season.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: And that's what you said to Claudia, I didn't.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Get Love and hip Hop though, before I move on
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: to Blue and Dustin, I do want you to address
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: this because I agree with you. I know people like
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: to put words in your mouth, and I want to
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: have the opportunity for you to address it. There were
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: people saying, Claudia that they felt that you sak and
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: gave Love and hip Hop was because k Michelle is
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: in it, and I wanted you to be able to
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: clear the air about that.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: And if I did so, what she was a standout
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: from Loving It hip Hop?
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: Why are we playing dumb here and trying to find
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: some coded insult in there that I am. I'm it's like,
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: it's more than it is, Like, please stop with that nonsense.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: She was a standout on Love and Hip Hop. She
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: was hilarious.
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: She and I'm talking.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: Speaking of someone who was very good friends to meet
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: me who they got into it. I can still be objective.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: She was hilarious on that show and she gave good
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: TV shaking the table. We love that. What is wrong
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: with that? And then you know, I mean I'm not.
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: It's not a dig to me. I mean, why can't
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: people see it?
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Like I'm actually on Love and hip Hop and I
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: went from house I went the other way, right from
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: housewives to Love and hip Hop. There's a lot of
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: cross promotions a lot of these shows. We talked about,
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: some of these other shows with the controversy that was
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: around Married to Medicine and some of these other shows
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: people talking about like the crossing of shows and all that,
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: and casts going from one show to the next. It's
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: just kind of a different time now where it's like
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: not as looked down upon it, and I'm not even
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: mad at it.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: I'm not.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: It's and it's established a person in reality that we
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: know that they're gonna bring it. It's not like trying
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: an unknown where we don't know how it's gonna go.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: I'm not mad at it, and it's not like I'm
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: I don't think ky Michelle is bringing the franchise down
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: at all. I think she's actually gonna be hilarious. And
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: now that I see how it all works, at first,
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: I go live like, how's it gonna be? When I
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: saw the trailer, it look very entertaining. I mean some
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: people can say overwhelming, but like again, we all have
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: different opinions. I'm not trashing the lady for being on
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: the show. I'm not even saying she's bringing it down.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: But they want me to say that. They want it
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: to be a negative. And people have been trying to
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: use Kma.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: Schelle for that thing.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: Like you say anything about it, it's like you're It's like,
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: I'm not doing that to a black woman.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: I'm not doing that to her.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: So y'all can come up with whatever narratives y'all want
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: in the comments. As a NAACP nominee, for now, I'm
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: not addressing it anymore.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Blue, Well, thank you, Claude. I want to make sure
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: you're addressed that. Thank you, Thank you, Blue. What are
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: your thoughts?
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: First question, Claudia, which one is six and which one
• 23:05
  Speaker 8: is seven?
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: It's been bothering me since.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: We think is the old one Because I was dating
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: a guy that was trying to be a rapper, a
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: struggle rapper, and he called himself the six million dollar man.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: He want to have a baby with me.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: I said, we just start with the cat first, and
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: the first ego. I was like, I'm named the cat
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: after you.
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: That's your son the orange blue.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm mex to color.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, so which color is?
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Little?
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: One is seven?
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Because seven is my favorite number because I play craps
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: and the okay, the Lord seven days to make you
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: know the world and you know I'm a Christians.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Seven is the gray one and six is the orange one.
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: I love Dustin sit up here.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Translating for me.
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: I speak Claudia fluently, So I wanted.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: To know thank you high seven. It's so funny.
• 23:50
  Speaker 8: I think I don't know if the trailer gives Love
• 23:53
  Speaker 8: and Hip Hop. I do feel like the exchange between
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: King Michelle.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: And Rusl Door definitely does.
• 23:59
  Speaker 8: So it's almost like Drew I always thought would be
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: great on a show like Love and Hip Hop because
• 24:04
  Speaker 8: she comes ready to play.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: And then the women sometimes get a little bit you know,
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: holier than.
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: Now with her, and so it feels like she wants
• 24:10
  Speaker 8: somebody to have a fun little key key with and
• 24:12
  Speaker 8: she can take it, you know what I mean.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: She's actually really good at taking it.
• 24:14
  Speaker 8: They're constantly swiping at her, and unlike the Ashley Darby's
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: of the world, I don't think she's.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: A one trick poner. She got a new trick every season.
• 24:20
  Speaker 8: I love it, right, So I think the Drew and
• 24:23
  Speaker 8: Ky Michelle of it all might be reminiscent of love
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: and hip hop. But what I saw was something that
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: Claudia mentioned is it does feel like they're leaning towards
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: a younger demographic, like they're refreshing it because the original
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: og Atlanta Housewife fans are like in their fifties now right,
• 24:38
  Speaker 8: like the fandom has actually aged, but they feel it
• 24:42
  Speaker 8: feels like they're reaching back to get more of the
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: younger demographic, and that might be what people are responding to.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Even the colors, I was like, this feels very brats dall.
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: Everything was very white and it looks different.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like in Nickelodeon. Later I was like,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: what's happened? It's very alive blues.
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: Clues, Gracie's corner, so Clinton them colors don't say perimenopause.
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: I know perimenopausal colors. It's not pink, so.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Tell me about it. I'm gonna stop stipping, sorry y'all. Anyways,
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: though it looks like a good time.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: My.
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: Friends are crazy. They are yes.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: And blue.
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: All right, So you know, unpopular opinion here. But I
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: still ain't nobody told me what the fuck it giving
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: love and hip hop even means?
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, What does that even mean?
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: It?
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: What?
• 25:45
  Speaker 7: Nothing about that trailer felt like I was watching the
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: episode of Love and hip Hop, and I don't think
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: nothing is wrong with love and hip hop, So I'm
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: offended by the even the idea of it. Right, people
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: saying the show change is so different. Now, let's break
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: it down. In the trailer, you have Portia accusing Kelly
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: of sleeping with a mary man.
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: Hello.
• 26:06
  Speaker 7: Season one, they accused Kim Zosiak of sleeping with a
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: married man, and it became one of the biggest storylines
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: that carried all the way over.
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: Into the season fucking teen reunion.
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: Okay, oh, it's loving hip hop because they holding Kate
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: Michelle back from fighting Drew season one. On the reunion couch,
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: Lisa was holding Nini back from lundon at Kim, it's true,
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: what are y'all talking about? Like we're talking about financial
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: Pinky has financial issues. Schirey was going through financial hell
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: season one. Didn't know she was gonna have a pot
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: to piss in or a window to throw it out of.
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: It's not a departure from the original formula of the show.
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: And I don't understand what people even mean when they
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: say it's giving love and hip hop.
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: No the fuck is not.
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: And if you homophobic, don't say it's giving nothing, because
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: that's black gay slang that y'all have reappro propriated and
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: taken and ran with.
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: So that's another thing.
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: Are you Bible thumpers who have a problem with homosexuals
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: and the LGBTQ plus and don't even take the time
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: and have the patience to remember the order of the letters.
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: Don't say shay T is giving. Don't say none of
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: that shit. All that is blackgay slang. But that's another
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: lesson for another time. I don't think this is quote
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: unquote giving love and hip hop. I think it looked
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: like a very interesting trailer. Pinky Cole is a personal
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: friend of mine. I've been doing Pinky for years. When
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: I hosted two seasons of a show called bet on
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: Black on Revolt, Pinky was, Pinky and I were the
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: only people that came back. The judges panel changed and
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: Pinky remained. Pinky is a serial entrepreneur that's been very
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: honest about the ups and downs of business. And entrepreneurship.
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: That's gonna read well with the audience. She just made
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: headlines today for filing bankruptcy without shame.
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: Pinky has a beautiful family. There's five children in her family, like,
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: there's a lot of story there and Pinky is very vocal.
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: She speaks up her and Ky Michelle. I believe our
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: sorority sisters. We have the insults flying between Pinky and Angela.
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: In the trailer, Angela called her Papa Smurphin and mister clean.
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: They talked about how each other looked the entirety of
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: season one. Remember Lisa wo just called Nini a moose
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: about two three weeks ago. In the media, they've been
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: talking about a body shaman, talking about how people look
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: so miss me, particularly with the It's giving love and
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: hip hop shit because I hate that whole conversation.
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: Enjoyed the show, that's all it is. Huh Lisa, who
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: is still trending on the baby she got friends.
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: She got drunk at the damn Remember when they did
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: the Ultimate Girls road Trips stop in Atlanta, Nini's return
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: to Bravo.
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: She was there because she's a season one cast member.
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: Apparently she got drunk and was.
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: Being drunk and starting ship Nini, saying Nini overlooked her
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: when she was mentioning the people there, and she created
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: a scene. Nini tweeted or posted in the comments like
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: girl by aa, you know what I'm saying, like telling
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: her to go to alcohol and now alcoholics anonymous.
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: So I say all that to say, all the things that.
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: People are attributing to giving love and hip hop have
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: been present since the day this fucking show came on
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: the air. Missed me with the conversation it just enjoyed
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: the show April fifth, right, April fifth.
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, I.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: Feel like you're speaking to me because I said the comment.
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: I'm not but everything you just said, it's a ton
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: of people saying it. I'm the only one that said
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: it on the carpet, So I'm not going to you
• 29:39
  Speaker 7: talking to the people that's saying that I'm not.
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: I'm not appropriating anything. I just want to say.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: I think that, Yes, you're right, a lot of those
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: things happened before, but we can't things got more. I mean,
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: I've seen there's a lot of stuff that didn't make
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: the cut. Carlos knows that, but things started to get
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: a little more ratchet in some season, okay, where before
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: it would be more verbal and things there was a
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: lot more frequency of things getting physical. I do think
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: the trailer looks I think the tone of the season
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: looks different than prior trailers.
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: Like the overall trailer looked like that.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: Now that doesn't mean the season's gonna be like that,
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: but it different looks like younger, faster, quicker, quicker, like
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: a lot more of that and less like hoity tody
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: a nasty read with a glass of wine. It's more
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: like and I think that's what I took from it
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: from as far as like to me, I felt like
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: that it looked more, a little bit more towards that other,
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: that vibe of what.
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: You're saying, hold on blue.
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: So so the qualifiers we have at this point, right
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: for real, they're looking like love and hook hip hop
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: was it, and not having hoity toity people and having
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: a little bit more mm mm hmmm.
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: Well it's more than that. It's the trailer looked a
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: lot different than the past. It just looks it.
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: Looks like we gotta I just feel like we gotta
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: be clear because to me, now, you let me be clear,
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: right because it's ain't.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: I'm not talking about this is This is a good
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: discussion because.
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: Continue to hear you say what.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: What it is? Me though, because we're talking about I'm.
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: Not talking about your opinion. I'm speaking to the issue.
• 31:15
  Speaker 7: So I just want to be clear on it. I'm
• 31:17
  Speaker 7: not like challenging what you how you felt about it.
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: I'm not challenging that. I'm just saying I think a
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: lot of times when people continue to repeat things that
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: they've heard, this person ain't got no storyline. The ratings
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: is love, it's giving love and hip hop. Like you
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: hear one person say that, You hear people say it
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: all the way through, and nobody ever clearly defines like
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: what it means. I don't think my in my opinion
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: right as far as like what love and hip hop
• 31:46
  Speaker 7: is or whatever. I didn't feel like the trailer mirrored.
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: That felt like a house to me.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: And I'll get your second blow.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: As somebody who worked on a lot of housewives and
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Love and Hip Hop, right, I will say this, in
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: the earlier days, it was extremely apparent the distinction of
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: the show right based on these sort of broad strokes
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: that was like pain brush on it.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Right, So yeah, Atlanta.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Housewives was always seen as the sort of upper echemom
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: black female ensemble show. Love and Hip Hop was seen
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: as the more greedy show. As somebody who worked on both,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: what I will say is this, I've always believed that
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: both shows deserve the same amount of respect in terms
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: of as black people, we're all trying to figure things out.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: And yes, there were tons of theory moments. I mean,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: my girl Cherae pulled kimswig season two, episode four, right,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: it was always his intersection that was very clear.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: The only difference was, and this is.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Again I'm speaking as a producer only not a viewer,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: was the sort of tonality of how it was presented, right,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Charay pulling Kim's wig was no different to me than.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Jos Lene getting into her Carly Ray.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: The only difference was Charay had on Chanelle and at
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: that time jos Len had on you know what she
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: had on? So what I do think is happening as
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: we fast forward, right, and this is this is what
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: I want to get to Claudia's comment about just shows
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: being dramatic, because there are people who do feel like,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: what can there be a show about black women who
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: get along as somebody who creates shows. I'll even say this,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, when people are at home,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: they want entertainment, and you do have the sort of high.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: It's what Tyler Perry he said this. I'm not calling y'all,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: this is what he said. Tyler Perry said that is
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: these uppitty negroes right who feel like, why are you
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: showing this? And why are you showing that? And listen,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: I get shame for my own shows too, But for me,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: I never go into eat of my shows thinking more
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: or less of this.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: I go into can we show the reality of what
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: all are going through?
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: And in the midst of that, when you get people together,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: it's something dramatic is going to happen. If we hung
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: out for three months, we're going to get to argument, right,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: because we're the four of us are very type A personalities.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: So I say all of that to say I do
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: think there's room for both. And last, but not least,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: there's a shows washed up the weekend called The CEO
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Club that was just about on Amazon Prime is EP
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: by Serena Williams. It's Serena Williams, Winnie Harlow, Lauren Reneger.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: And Yes, yes, So that's my point.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: It's a show that I binge over the weekend, call
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: the the CEO Club on Amazon Prime's not getting any press,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: it's not getting traction.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: And let's have a conversation because of y'all, not the
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: three of y'all meaning the audience.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: So those same people who want it, there's a show
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: out there that Dustin the Historian has even heard of.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Because y'all aren't watching it. Y'all claim y'all wanted. Y'all
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: was dissing summer House, Martha's Vineyard, Oh my god, it's
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: so boring, nothing's happening. And the show got canceled up
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: the two seasons, which I do think this I no
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: longer subscribe to.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Can the show be A or B?
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: I'm at the point in my career where it can
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: it show be good?
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Can I can I? Can I get a.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Cast who needs to work? Can I get a cast
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: who clocks in? Can I get a cast who's not
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: going to go on social media and blame production for
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: how they acted? And because social media read them, they
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: want to Recarlos King. I want a cast to where
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: you knocked on my door signed to do the show,
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: and then when you got there. I ain't talking about that.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: That's too personal. We need to talk more about that
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: versus whether something seems to be dramatic, and at the
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: end of the day, is what you guys want.
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: I agree they do want that.
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: That's why the bar keeps moving.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: And again, it's not meant to be a disc it's
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: meant to say I, in my opinion, this square thinks.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: It's just different. It just looks different than what it
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: used to be.
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: I just add some language though, because Justin asked a
• 36:57
  Speaker 8: really great question. I do want us to answer because
• 36:59
  Speaker 8: it's not rhetorical. That actually is an answer for it.
• 37:02
  Speaker 8: Justin said, we say things, and he's right that we
• 37:04
  Speaker 8: don't define. And I actually do think that Claudia is
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: she's targeting something or picking up on something that we
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: do need to define.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: The clarify for the audience.
• 37:14
  Speaker 8: If you are looking at reality to be like a dial,
• 37:17
  Speaker 8: can we all be honest if there's a dial from
• 37:19
  Speaker 8: mainstream to high class.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Black to nigga shit, can we all be honest?
• 37:24
  Speaker 8: Right?
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: Yes?
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: And so shows like CEO.
• 37:27
  Speaker 8: Club, which I was actually gonna mention, so I'm happy
• 37:29
  Speaker 8: you mentioned it, which I also binged because I was like,
• 37:31
  Speaker 8: this is so wholesome.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: I feel like my credit score were not just watching
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: this and having a play in the background, but of.
• 37:36
  Speaker 8: Williams and good Whites just being really lovely to each
• 37:39
  Speaker 8: other and signing checks for Venture capuls fun.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: It's like, oh my god, this is amazing. Right, I
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: love Hannah Broffman, you are my girl.
• 37:45
  Speaker 8: So from the Serena CEO Super and they call that
• 37:48
  Speaker 8: a docuseries right when it's really mainstream and white adjacent.
• 37:52
  Speaker 8: It's called a docuseries when it's super super, super Ratchet,
• 37:55
  Speaker 8: it's considered the love and hip hop turn of the
• 37:57
  Speaker 8: dial all the way up, and the middle of the
• 38:00
  Speaker 8: unfortunately is the bougie Blacks. I think what Claudia's responding
• 38:04
  Speaker 8: to is there were moments where I don't even know
• 38:07
  Speaker 8: if m Zosie I can fight, because she doesn't have
• 38:09
  Speaker 8: to know how to fight to be on that show, right,
• 38:10
  Speaker 8: So there were moments where Atlanta hovered in.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: The middle as bougie Black. Then it would.
• 38:16
  Speaker 8: Sometimes dial up towards Ratchet, and then the last couple
• 38:19
  Speaker 8: of years it died right back down to almost boring. Right,
• 38:22
  Speaker 8: the dial for Atlanta keeps moving, So to Dustin's point,
• 38:26
  Speaker 8: He's right, there were times where.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Atlanta was kissing nigga shit.
• 38:29
  Speaker 8: But then to Claudia's points, for there are several years
• 38:32
  Speaker 8: when it died back down to the bougie blacks, and
• 38:35
  Speaker 8: I think, because it's been so boring or safe for
• 38:38
  Speaker 8: the last couple of years, I think she's accurately picking
• 38:42
  Speaker 8: up on an uptick towards ratchet nigga shit. But to
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: Dustin's point, they've done that to niggashit before, So I
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: think you're both actually right. The dowt just moving with
• 38:50
  Speaker 8: that show that was just foah yeah, And and the
• 38:55
  Speaker 8: thing is is something that evolve.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: So what I want to do is when the trailer dropped,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Caym and Shell and Drew got into a war of words, okay,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: and I want to read you guys exactly what happened.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: So the trailer dropped juice door, Claudia's cousin.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Said, it's your.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: Real cousin, her everything a and Michael Jordan. I told
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: y'all a million times we have I will see them all.
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: Together, and I'll always leave Barbara.
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: Keep me acting funny. Sometimes we don't be around her
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: like that.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: When the trailer dropped Juice, a door said, welcome to
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: the jungle. Cami Shell and Pinky Cole keeping getting peachy.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: There's got a whole lot wilder the Real houseplos on
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: the latter returns April fifth, Cam and Schev responded, Yes,
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Drew spelled, check and awe. You're almost their little lady.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: But why would I get attention from you when you
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: barely made the cut? I have to say to you right,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: tell the people why you are just narrating, no worries.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: I got you every time, beauty. I never get any
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: thanks that deserve Juice. Dourra responded, barely made the cut.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: I'm five seasons in. You thought I wasn't easy target,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: but you got the right one.
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: See you.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: April fifth, at ahm On Bravo, Hakuna matata kiy Michelle girl,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: thank you. You are the lying king. Roar juse Dourra said,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: if I'm the lining king, you just a yodling hoot,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: making noise for attention, no power, no truth. Dustin Ross,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: who has a sold out show Mars Summit teens with
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: a second one, Adam the same night in New York City?
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on these war of words?
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: Did anybody win the war to.
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: You this bat No know.
• 41:00
  Speaker 7: It was a draw to me because both of them
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: was corny in my opinion, but entertaining nonetheless right entertainment,
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: lighthearted jabs back and forth. This is what you want
• 41:11
  Speaker 7: the Housewives to do, A lighthearted, witty verbal exchange. You
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. Over in social media, they've been again.
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: They've been doing this shit since the beginning. Let's take
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: it back to the rite of blog days when they
• 41:23
  Speaker 7: wrote a blog on Bravo dot com and talk shit
• 41:26
  Speaker 7: the entire time. So this is nothing new for the
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: crowd that says, you know the phrase that must not
• 41:32
  Speaker 7: be said. But yeah, shit, you know what I'm saying.
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: I thought it was great. Give me more, give me more,
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: give me more. I can't wait for the season. This
• 41:41
  Speaker 7: is exactly what I want them to be doing.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Blue.
• 41:47
  Speaker 8: I honestly think it's I think it's wonderful. I think
• 41:49
  Speaker 8: this is I think if Angel had come in with
• 41:51
  Speaker 8: this kind of energy, I'd like more.
• 41:55
  Speaker 9: So.
• 41:56
  Speaker 8: I just feel like, after watching you know, Sadness and
• 41:58
  Speaker 8: whatnot for the past, have iver seend many episodes of
• 42:01
  Speaker 8: that other franchise. It's nice to see housewives back to
• 42:04
  Speaker 8: being housewives and not having to go to therapy sessions
• 42:07
  Speaker 8: for like different scenes. So this is the levity tea
• 42:10
  Speaker 8: that makes the show fun. They're both in on the joke.
• 42:13
  Speaker 8: To Dustin's point, it's fun when everybody's in on the joke.
• 42:16
  Speaker 8: Everybody's acting like they're doing a reenactment of Paris is burning.
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: We all hear the key, right, Kiki, The shade shade
• 42:22
  Speaker 8: means you know you ugly.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: I didn't gotta say it, right.
• 42:25
  Speaker 8: I love that quote, but no, I love this iteration
• 42:29
  Speaker 8: of it because I think this is what's gonna pull
• 42:32
  Speaker 8: the viewers back, because last season got.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: A little bit dark.
• 42:36
  Speaker 8: There was a cloud over the last season or two
• 42:39
  Speaker 8: that made me feel like it's this franchise over. It
• 42:41
  Speaker 8: feels rejuvenated to me. So I actually am very much
• 42:44
  Speaker 8: looking forward to ky Michelle and Drew the door just
• 42:46
  Speaker 8: tugging on each other's wigs all season long.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Yes, Claudia, I also thought it was a little corny.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I guess I don't know what the backstory
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: is enough about why they're already so much beef between
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: Drew and ky Michelle, like out the gate, damn, and
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: we haven't seen it yet, so we don't know. I heard,
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: of course, little things, but yeah again, uh, it's an
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: injection and a shot in the arm to give some
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: energy back on the show.
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: We love certain things about last season.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: Angela Oakley mainly, but now there's other reasons that doesn't
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: have to just be all on Angela's back to carry
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: the season, Like we see this other potential, uh not
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: just overly done storylines, like some fresh stuff like what really?
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: Who knew there was beef between Ky Michelle and and
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: and Drew and now we know? So I'm looking forward
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: to it. It seems it's gonna be exciting.
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: So I just hope no one. I don't want to
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: see any fights. I want verbal verbal because I.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: See that on the other showing about Claudia respect.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: You don't back down? Are you serious?
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: That's because they both just listen. They both aren't the
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: equivalent of I said.
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: I said, like, it's okay, it's not even like a
• 44:13
  Speaker 7: it's not personal for me, you know what I'm saying,
• 44:15
  Speaker 7: Like it's okay.
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I love it.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: I love it, And that's how you have a healthy debate.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: So listen. In case you guys haven't heard.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: With Drew's numerous posts, The Real Hospitals of Atlanta returns.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: June, promoting Baby.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: It returns Sunday, April fifth, And when I say to you,
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: I'll say this much.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: There is something about Atlanta that just drives me up
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: the wall in the best way possible.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: I literally cannot wait to recap this show with y'all's.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: There is I think about this show that when we
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: talk about it, there's people who text me that's on
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: the show that'd be like, I heard what y'all saying.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: But nonetheless, nonetheless, let's get into another show that people
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: are watching and texting me last week. So we need
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: to get into the Real Housewives of Potomac Part three reunion.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: I want to start off by addressing me getting dragged
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: on Twitter all day today.
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: Hey what you do now? Friend?
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about it. So rain drops, come in,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: come in, come in. And the beauty of this panel
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: is as you as all saw earlier. We all keep
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: it real with each other. It's like with you, we
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: can disagree, get a little boomboo. Once we log off,
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: we don't think about no more. So Claudia, Dusted and
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Blue feel free to say what you gotta say before
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: we get to the rest of the reunion. I would
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: like to addressed me getting dragged on Twitter, because.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: That just doesn't a big serious.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: I'm getting dragged because Giselle Kobe Bryant, a name I
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: gave her, did not have a package this reunion, and
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: they are dragging me because they said I am the
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: one that you know, said.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: She's a force multiplier. How you know Gazelle Kobe Bryant
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: is not riding the bench, you know what?
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: How dreadful that you know gizl who you call the
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: star of the show, had no package. She lost her
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: seat to Wendy and all these things. So listen, I
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: understand the optics, right, and I'm here to say this obviously,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: it's not great.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: It's not great. Mm hmm, it ain't great. It ain't great.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: As a gazelle apologists, don't be Jesus.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: I'm actually a poor chapologist. But hey, Claudia, oh my.
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: God, that's breaking news. Wow, somebody clip this and give.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: It to the shape room. This show is so fasty
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: that we're all dragging each other tonight.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Anyways, Claudia, like I was saying, no hauts aside, it's
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: not great. It's not great, And the reason why it's
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: not great is because, and I'm gonna say it, it's
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: not great because they actually kept it in the episode.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: It's not great because they kept that moment in the episode. Yeah,
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: and it was Listen.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: It's what I always tell the girls who reach out
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: to me or who I'm mentor or who I work with.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: You should never get comfortable. I'm not saying Gazelle's comfortable.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: What I'm saying is if I was Giselle Kobe Bryant,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: I would be worried because they kept that in And that,
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: to me is sending a message, and it's sending a
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: message for us to talk about You're only as good
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: as your last episode, You're only as good as your
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: last season. There's plenty of girls who had better seasons
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: that are on the show. And not having a package means, yes,
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: you don't have a storyline.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: That's exactly what it means. I'm not here to mince words.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: When you don't have a package, that absolutely means you unfortunately,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: did not have a storyline that was worthy of a
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: three part reunion, not one part, not two, but three
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: And it is concerning and for me, it goes to
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: show you that you could be the face of the show,
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: the fourth wall, supplying all these things. But you have
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: to be more than just I throw Shae, I move
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: story forward, I do all these things. In my opinion,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: I think Gizelle is still one of the greatest, but
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: yet having no package, I would be concerned.
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: Also, like when she gave her own she said, fuck it,
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: I'm giving my own package, my own recap when she
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: said she's dating a set she was dating a congressman,
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: this that and the other, and all the drama around
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: the you know, the fathers with the money and all.
• 49:29
  Speaker 8: That, Like.
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: The fans were definitely.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: Jimped you know what I mean, Like that could have
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: been maybe you can allude to your dating. Maybe you
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: don't show the congressman. So I understand that that's very
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: hard for them to go on a.
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: Show like that.
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: They can't, but like do it, Like how Kim Zozie
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: I had missed a big and just or whatever his name,
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: Big Papa, Big Papa, show that you've got something going
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: on and that it's a big secret, and then let
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: that be the storyline.
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: Let everybody try to figure out who it is.
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: But she I think she missed an opportunity to have
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: she could have had a really popping storyline actually, because
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: that's interesting.
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: That family drama. Will she will she not win the
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: court case?
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: You know, who the hell is she dating that's in politics,
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: living in DC, in the DC area, Like, I think
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: that would have been highly entertaining and good for her,
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: you know, and good for her because yeah, now I
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: having a package that's damn there in front of the show.
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: And as much as Ashley gets dragged, she had a package, right.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she had one.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Claudia, you, being a reality star, would you be concerned
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: if you were Gazelle?
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: Hell yeah.
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: When I was at the Housewives and y'all never show
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: my stand up comedy, I said, oh, I know, I
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: ain't come back next season. Oh shit, y'all did y'all
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: did the whole photo shoot out everybody there that I
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: fucking killed it at the show, y'all didn't show it.
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: I said, oh, I already know. And then someone suggested
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: I pretend I was dating an R and B singer,
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: but I didn't do it. But anyways, wow, yeah, of course,
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: of course.
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: But I think Gizelle, she's because of her status with
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: that show, she doesn't she'll be back next season. But
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: if it's like two seasons like that. Hell yeah, but yeah, absolutely,
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: of course I mean something. And like you said, they
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: kept that in the show.
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: I don't have a package because it pointed it out
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: even more. Mm hmm yeah, that show show it.
• 51:18
  Speaker 8: Why did it feel like you were preemptively reading her
• 51:20
  Speaker 8: reality eulogy at the beginning?
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: I was like, dude, do you like her because you
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: convinced me she shouldn't come back to Hell.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: I love her, but I got listen, I worked these reunions.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: When listen, I know what happens in these meetings. That's
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: why I said to the Raindrops Blue, I said, let's
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: be clear, there is a there's a meeting that lasts
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: up good god, there's a meeting that lasts up to
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: an hour where you talk about the seating assignment. It's
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: not happenstances. These are everything you're seeing on these shows.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: There's thought, there's process, is very methodical. Right when you
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: don't have a package, that means that.
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: That's not great. And I'm not I'm not gonna sit
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: there and say, well, you know, no, I'm gonna be real.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: I still love her. I think she's great for the
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: show still, but yes, I do think everybody should look
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: at their career.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: And say, am I too comfortable? Do I need to
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: accept up?
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: It's the reason why I worked six jobs because I'm
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: just like, uh, I don't you know you you never
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: want to.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: Wrestle your laurels. And I thought it was it was
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: a strong message. And again, if I was just Zell,
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: I would definitely be a little worried. I think about it.
• 52:47
  Speaker 8: Though, her strongest moments were part of other people's packages,
• 52:51
  Speaker 8: So even though she sill didn't get a package, we
• 52:53
  Speaker 8: still saw her strongest moments. That is her fault, right
• 52:57
  Speaker 8: If all your strongest moments are tethered to other old
• 53:00
  Speaker 8: flushed even angel. If all your big moments are parts
• 53:04
  Speaker 8: of somebody else's package, you've kind of given it away,
• 53:07
  Speaker 8: but you don't have your own thing that's howsed with you.
• 53:10
  Speaker 8: And I think that kind of speaks to how she
• 53:12
  Speaker 8: showed up this season. I do think it's an accurate
• 53:14
  Speaker 8: display of how she showed up. I'm shocked that actually
• 53:17
  Speaker 8: got a package, right, she might have negotiated that to
• 53:19
  Speaker 8: stay back. I will say this though, Gazelle being in
• 53:22
  Speaker 8: the middle of the couch, I think had she not
• 53:25
  Speaker 8: been so seasoned and been a veteran, she probably would
• 53:27
  Speaker 8: have been at the edge of the couch with a
• 53:29
  Speaker 8: jazzy in them, right, Like she really did not have
• 53:31
  Speaker 8: much of her own thing going on. And the thing
• 53:34
  Speaker 8: about her mother and stuff, I mean her stepmom and
• 53:37
  Speaker 8: the thing they did that last season Claudia, and it
• 53:39
  Speaker 8: didn't do anything with the audience. So I think the
• 53:41
  Speaker 8: things that she's mentioning tested and nobody cared.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: I don't think we were robbed. I think nobody cared.
• 53:47
  Speaker 8: And for Gazelle and Ashley, I know that Ashley works
• 53:51
  Speaker 8: overtime when the cameras are off, so that we care
• 53:53
  Speaker 8: when the cameras are on. Gezelle goes home to her kids,
• 53:56
  Speaker 8: which is great, right. I think the show is getting
• 53:59
  Speaker 8: away from her. I think the Wendy of it all,
• 54:01
  Speaker 8: and the Karen of it all, even the Angel of
• 54:04
  Speaker 8: it all, got so much bigger that she kept on
• 54:08
  Speaker 8: feeling like a very prominent supporting character in other people's stories.
• 54:13
  Speaker 8: And she's she's been doing this for a while and
• 54:15
  Speaker 8: gotten away with it. She's gonna actually have to find
• 54:17
  Speaker 8: her own story time And how do we find obout
• 54:18
  Speaker 8: the Congressman Claudia, Because they were asking Ashley about dating
• 54:22
  Speaker 8: a politician, and she was like, oh, I.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: Thought you were talking about my politicians.
• 54:25
  Speaker 8: There's a deradition in that even the way we find
• 54:27
  Speaker 8: out about her information feels desperate her. Her grip is
• 54:30
  Speaker 8: loosening more than she realizes. And I think Andy sees
• 54:33
  Speaker 8: it because when they said, well, she said, doesn't have
• 54:34
  Speaker 8: a package, and he was like, WHOA.
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: And she should be worried because you guys are familiar
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: with Drake how he bets on major sporting events, and
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: whenever he bets on that team or that game, that
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: team always loses.
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: Carlos King, I think you're.
• 54:51
  Speaker 9: The Drake of reality because you are really going hard
• 54:57
  Speaker 9: for Mia and then she was gone, and then now
• 55:01
  Speaker 9: and she got no package, and I'm a little bit scared.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: Don't do it.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: Don't do it, don't do it.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: I at the end of the day, okay, MEI leaks,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: Teresa Judies, don't play with me.
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: Okay, playing all your picks. But I'm just saying, I'm
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: just saying. I'm just saying.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: But my thing is this, let the record show you're
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: talking about Potomac.
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's about me.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: It's more about these girls understanding how the show works
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: that I helped build where they're able to.
• 55:37
  Speaker 6: Have the job.
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: Okay, Drake for Potomac.
• 55:41
  Speaker 8: All it's a seasonal Drake. You're a seasonal Drake. It
• 55:45
  Speaker 8: depends on location, everything else.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: You're hitting you Madden's you know a thousand just I made,
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: I made safety Rush my reality.
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: Don't play her name and about to be going.
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: Your well go ahead.
• 56:04
  Speaker 7: As a person with a package, my package is very
• 56:08
  Speaker 7: important to me, Okay, I coveted and me having a
• 56:12
  Speaker 7: package that is represented and presented in the best light
• 56:17
  Speaker 7: is important to me and to my core. So I
• 56:20
  Speaker 7: can only imagine that as a reality star, having a
• 56:23
  Speaker 7: package would be just equally as important to me. Gizelle
• 56:27
  Speaker 7: got to step it up. Stop lying and living your
• 56:29
  Speaker 7: life behind the curtain. You know what I'm saying. Put
• 56:32
  Speaker 7: your man on the front. Get a nigga that's willing
• 56:34
  Speaker 7: to film with you. You know what I'm saying.
• 56:36
  Speaker 6: Put your I can only remember maybe one scene this entire.
• 56:41
  Speaker 7: Season, season ten, in Jazelle's crib, and you know when
• 56:45
  Speaker 7: you in her house because you never forget how her
• 56:47
  Speaker 7: house looks, so you know where you're at and I
• 56:50
  Speaker 7: didn't see, But not one scene I only remember maybe
• 56:52
  Speaker 7: one scene in her house. So that's Jazelle's deficiency, you
• 56:57
  Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. She needs to figure out a
• 56:59
  Speaker 7: way to add add more to the story when it
• 57:02
  Speaker 7: comes to her, and hopefully she will. I don't think
• 57:04
  Speaker 7: she's in danger of removal from the cast by any means.
• 57:09
  Speaker 7: I think that she just needs to step it up.
• 57:12
  Speaker 7: And I think she's staying on them stove pipe legs
• 57:15
  Speaker 7: like Karen said.
• 57:17
  Speaker 6: And she'll stand up. She'll step it up, So I'm
• 57:19
  Speaker 6: with it.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Okay. So I'm going to be very transparent
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: in this one, so Dustin, I may have to have
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: you do this one for me, okay, because I do
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: not want to get emotional.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, So we need to get into Wendy's package. Okay,
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: So let's let's get to that.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: I want to give it out the way, and then
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: we'll go back and talk about Monique and and and Stacey,
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: because that's the update that we have all right. In
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: an effort not to cry on camera because I don't
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: like doing that, what I will say is I can't
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: I can't talk about the Wendy and Eddie situation without
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: me getting choked up because It's a very serious situation,
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: and just like all of us have friends in the business,
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: my bias will show in terms of the love. I
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: have a Wendy who in real life is a friend who.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: Texts on birthdays.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: You know when she talked about October ninth, is when
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: the police came to her door. She texts me, case,
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: my birthday's October second, and she texted me, I want
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: to say the day before or something, just saying.
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'm going to birthday and we and
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: her have a great report. It was very hard to
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: watch her go through the line of questioning and I
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: can't talk about it. It was hard for me. It
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: was hard for me to watch it so dustin her
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: and just explain the Wendy and Eddie.
• 59:15
  Speaker 6: Moment.
• 59:16
  Speaker 7: For sure, I think that number one. The other ladies,
• 59:19
  Speaker 7: her fellow cast members gave her a lot of grace.
• 59:22
  Speaker 7: There was not a grilling of sources that took place.
• 59:26
  Speaker 7: I think Andy asked some pretty direct questions that Wendy
• 59:29
  Speaker 7: answered as honestly as she could or as as detailed
• 59:32
  Speaker 7: it with as much detail as she could. She talked
• 59:36
  Speaker 7: about the timeline of her home being burglarized and the
• 59:41
  Speaker 7: accusations or allegations that the state of Maryland is Maryland. Yeah,
• 59:46
  Speaker 7: Maryland is bringing to her. And so she she said
• 59:50
  Speaker 7: as much as she could. She was so detailed and
• 59:53
  Speaker 7: opening her her speech and dialogue on the stage that
• 59:57
  Speaker 7: Karen told her to shut the fuck up, you know
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 7: what I'm saying.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: And so that was like a real thing. People feel
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 6: like Wendy overshared.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 7: Some people feel like she may have put her case
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 7: in a jeopardy in some way by speaking so freely
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 7: on the stage.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 6: I don't know. I'm not no lawyer.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 7: I'm not here to make those determinations. But that's kind
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 7: of where it went. And every time Wendy talked about
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 7: details related to the case, she made it personal. When
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 7: she had an opportunity to respond to negative comments that
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 7: were made about her, she declined to respond to them,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 7: saying that she was going through so much that she
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 7: couldn't worry about the opinions of other people. She talked
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 7: about her children and the discovery of the robbery and
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 7: things like that. So she made it really personal, which
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 7: kind of I'm assuming created that response that you're having
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 7: right now, Carlos, verys emotional for you, right.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 6: She personalized the headlines.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 7: In a way that made us have some of us
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 7: have empathy for her on that stage, but she also,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 7: to some people's determined was talking too much and was
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 7: too cocky and arrogant and not present enough in the
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 7: trauma and turmoil that she's currently going through. So whatever
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 7: your take is, it was a very raw look into
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 7: her situation. And I personally was surprised at the Ashleys
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 7: and Giselle's and hell Angel and Kei Earnus because both
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 7: of them weren't in the best place with Wendy at
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 7: the time. I was surprised that they did not go
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 7: deeper or further into Wendy's situation. I was actually pleasantly
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 7: surprised that they didn't, because it showed a little humanity.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: Agreed, and I thought from the time we got the
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: news about Wendy that this reunion was going to be help.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: I think I haven't said she to be surprised that
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: she showed up because a lawyer probably telling not you,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: And it's kind of like what Karen was saying, you
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: saying too much, like to.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: Get her more in trouble.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: So yeah, to me though, it made me feel a
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: little bit more nervous for her because when you know what,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: it's like nothing right surfish, You're like, we're gonna get
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: all little jabs in. But if you really feel like
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: this is some real shit right here with her, and
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: she seems like a woman that's nervous, not saying that
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: she's guilty at all.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: I do not know the facts of the case.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying that at all, but it is you
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: don't have to be guilty to be nervous about the case.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: Right There's plenty of people that go to the person
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: that are just didn't have the best legal defense, or
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: if they want to get you, they're gonna get you,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: or technicality or whatever.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: It just looked like a woman that is scared.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: Even if her husband did it and she didn't. Because
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: she didn't, it did come out that she had nothing
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: to do with the paying the bills, a mortgage.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: And all that she like, let trust our husband totally.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: Imagine being that this is just hypothetical.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: Imagine being in that position where you love your man,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: your down form and you know you've got to put
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: out a united front to the world because you're on
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: reality TV. Plus that's your husband, and then something like
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: this happens, even if you like you have nothing to
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: do with it.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: You can't throw him under the bus.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: You have to just keep your mouth shut and take
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: the arrows that are comment at you, all while saying
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: I'm just worried about that. I do not envy her position,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: but I will say I agree with you, Dustin, like
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: I love that the women didn't take that opportunity to
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: kick her when she was down. But it also made
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: me feel like, damn, maybe maybe it is more dire
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: for her than, you.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: Know, than we may think. And I hope it's not.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: You know, I hope it's not.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 7: But that's why she looked the fun good. I say
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 7: that while she was talking about it, she looked great.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 7: And I love the fact that she was dabbing her
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 7: makeup and you could see that full finger linked ring
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 7: she had on, and she was going, she.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: Looked bomb in this whole season, all out with the
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: hair of the everything she can't with it.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 6: Shout out to Paris set.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she looked, she looked great. I'm blue.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 8: I felt the probably the most empathy that I've ever
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 8: felt with Wendy watching three, because here's the thing that
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 8: a lot of people in the audience do not understand
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 8: when we watch someone who is very prideful. Because I
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 8: have a lot of Nigerian friends in the LA area.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 8: Because I think some Nigerianian friends I'm not I am,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 8: I kind of look like it, I know. And one
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 8: thing I can tell you about Nigerian people is they
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 8: are very prideful people.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 6: Yes, And for.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 8: Someone as prideful and well educated as Wendy to show
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 8: up simultaneously with vulnerability and dignity, you could tell she's
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 8: been humbled by this and she still maintained her dignity.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: It does something to people, particularly in black women.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 8: We like to see bougie hoity people when they're down
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 8: and out fall to pieces. We almost get a sick
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 8: satisfaction from watching them fall.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: Apart.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 8: The fact that she was able to be so vulnerable
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 8: while still maintaining her dignity, I know it messed with
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 8: people a little bit. People who wanted to see her
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 8: crumble are annoyed that she still has dignity even during
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 8: a dark time, rather than being inspired by And that's
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 8: a nastness in the audience that y'all need to examining yourselves, right.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 8: And I think people like Wendy you are unsympathetic victims
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 8: when things happen to them. We forget to humanize them
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 8: because we're thinking, oh, you think you're big and bad,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 8: not thinking there's a person and children and a family
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 8: and a whole ecosystem that is being adversely affected. Even
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 8: when Angel tried to say, well, the whole time you
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 8: were messing with me is because you knew you had
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 8: this thing happening, and when he said no, that's not
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 8: the timeline, she didn't get the defence, and she said no,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 8: if this happened in twenty twenty four, I did not
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 8: think of it again until twenty twenty five, and then
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 8: show up to my door.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: That is false.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 8: And so to see someone like Wendy be so humble.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 8: I think that's why the way Karen showed up bothered
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 8: me so much, because it felt like you were taking
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 8: someone who was as prideful as you while they were down.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: When they didn't do it when it was your turn first.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 8: And there was a nastiness in that because Karen is
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 8: mad at Wendy for Wendy calling her out right darvo.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 8: Right when you attack, when you tell somebody, hey, you
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 8: hurt my feelings, they flip it now they're hurt that
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 8: you're hurt mm hmm, that they hurt your feelings, which
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 8: is very toxic. And to be so toxic to Wendy
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 8: and say things and bring up her mother in a
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 8: really abusive and toxic and painful scene and weaponize that
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 8: and say, well, the one thing I like when your
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 8: mother told you to shut the fuck up was so
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 8: nasty for someone who's supposed to be on a redemption arc.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: Karen has completely lost me. I'm gonna be very Karen
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: Huger has lost me. And I was a big, big
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: fan of Karen Hugar and then today at the end, say, see,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: I was trying to be like a mother to you.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: That's why I told you to shut the fuck up.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: That's a toxic matriarch.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 8: You don't get to be verbally abusive to somebody while
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 8: they're down and then try to house it and nurturing energy.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: Well, I was looking out for you. No, No, it's
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: given precious.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 8: I'm not a fan of that. And I think the
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 8: fact that no matter when people were trying to I'm
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 8: not a fan, Okay, I'm not. It was very very monique.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: And that's that Karen.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 8: You could have kept that fam okay, And so Wendy
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 8: didn't get up and run away with with a bucket
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 8: and fried chicken.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: She took it. She took it, and so I'm gonna
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: say Wendy.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 6: Sorry, precious, which is.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: Toxic matriarch.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 8: So for Wendy to still take it like that and
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 8: then continue to thank the rest of them and then
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 8: say to Andy, Andy, you give the best hugs and
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 8: I needed that. My heart goes out to her. I
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 8: know we've made jokes before. My heart goes out to
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 8: her now in a way that didn't previously, because now
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 8: I'm seeing how will this is, how painful it is,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 8: how much it's changed her forever. And if you have
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 8: a heart and don't just see these women as caricatures,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 8: I would find it hard to believe that none of
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 8: you don't see how big of a deal this is.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm strong enough to speak on this part.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: I personally.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: I hear you guys say you feet of the girls sorry,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: the other women were nicer than y'all thought.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: I disagree.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: I thought what we saw in the package, I didn't
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: was how they really felt. To hear gizl KK and
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: Ashley and they're talking about it and you know, to
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: hear Gazelle say I thought she was smarter than this,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: it's a dumb primise, you know, like, and then for
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: Angel to make that comment and look, shade of shade.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: I just think when it comes to this, and this
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: is my opinion, y'all could drag me forward.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 6: I don't care.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: At the end of the day, if Wendy did it
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: and Eddie did it, then.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: They have to obviously deal with the ramifications of their choice.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: With that being said, they didn't kill anybody, They didn't
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: put anybody in position to die. Karen Hey, they did
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: not do anything that was heinous that involved someone's livelihood. Yes,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: the worst thing that happened that people are saying is
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: the premiums of insurance goes up.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: Got it understood. There's a bad comedy relivement.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: I if I was if I was a housewife on
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: that show, I would have been like, I don't even
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: want to like make fun of this because if this
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: is what she did, let her speak on it. But
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: I didn't like the smugness in the scenes and the
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: moment they had the opportunity to face her head on.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I'm praying about the children to
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: me was a cop out.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: That was that was a defenth mechanism to be like,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: I don't want go start im one be nine. And
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: for me, the only one that low key stood on
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: business was Angel. She's like, look, I said what I
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: said pretty much. So that was hard to watch for
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: me because at the end of the day, if they
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: did this, nobody physically got her.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: And that's and and and that's how I feel about.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 8: Carls with the six seven though the not to bring
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 8: I'm not talking about the cast Claudia. The one thing
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 8: I liked about No, there was a six seven woman
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 8: and the thing it should be a drinking game six
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 8: seven No. But there was a moment where Wendy said
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 8: for the aliases, it was for packages. And I have
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 8: a friend who was on Love and Hip Hop who
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 8: whenever she orders Uber Eats, she has an alias that
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 8: Juanita that she used to use until they flagged it.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 8: So she has aliases to order food, but she doesn't
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 8: have aliensis for her taxes. And I thought that was
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 8: interesting that Wendy was so it was so easy for
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 8: her to give it a very plausible, innocent response to
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 8: something that we thought like had her dead to rights.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 8: And so it made me wonder what else is being
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 8: twisted that she could easily explore, you know what I mean?
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 8: So now I actually believe let's I think, actually believe
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 8: her a little bit more that it could be a
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 8: prosecutor trying to make a case, to make a name
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 8: for themselves, twisting things, even them saying that she was broke.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 8: She was like, we're broken subject. I don't think I'm broke,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 8: but the prosecutor could say that I have a million
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 8: dollar home but only five hundred k in the bank,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 8: so I'm broke, right, And so it makes me think
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 8: how much of this is consequential or circumstantial evidence that
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 8: people are running with to build a narrative that if
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 8: she actually had her day in court, she might not
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 8: look as guilty as we think.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 7: I agree one hundred percent. And that was my takeaway
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 7: after the reunion too. Overall, I felt the entire union,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 7: the entire reunion was a little tepid, you know what
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 7: I'm saying.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 6: The whole thing kind of.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 7: Fell a little flat for me all the way around.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 7: I know a lot of people were looking for angels redemption.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 7: Arc I did not see that exhibited from her into
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 7: the Couch. I think that she responded to the questions
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 7: that she was asked, But as far as a showing
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 7: that represented a renewed angel or a different angel than.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 6: We got during the season, I didn't see that on
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 6: the reunion stage.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 7: Overall, I think that all of the ladies could have
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 7: contributed a little bit more, And it felt like because
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 7: of Karen being not on the on the show this season,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 7: there were two brand new cast members, the season was
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 7: just a little disjointed in a way that I think
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 7: none of the ladies felt completely invested or completely committed
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 7: to developing a rich, robust through line for the season.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 6: I just didn't see that happen. I saw a casual approach.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 7: I saw jokes and lighthearted nature, two things that could
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 7: have been explored deeper. And so I think that they
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 7: just kind of got through the season where Karen was
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 7: in jail. And I think that once Karen is reinstated
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 7: as a full time cast member now that we can
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 7: continue with the residual feelings that they have from season
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 7: ten as we go into season ten, right as we
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 7: go into season eleven, I think that the returning cast
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 7: members will have something to work with to give us
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 7: a much more substantive season eleven than we got this year.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 6: At least that's my hope.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: So maybe this was like a transitional year because I struggled.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 5: I decided to watch that thing like three times, the
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 5: Party Reunion.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: Yes, like the other two fish Claudia.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm glad my commentary is so important to you.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: No, I'm not shut Claudia, I really have to use that.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I was like, oh my god, I'm like,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: I have to watch this before tonight's show. But I
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: had to struggle and stop it started and I had
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: to rewind it, like, okay, am I missing something here?
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: It was it was boring, and I felt like, I
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: think that Karen came in hot with Wendy because she's
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: you know, you make like you make it up.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 5: For lost time, like you ain't been there, like let
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 5: me coming high.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: Like that's the wrong person to do that with. That's
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: nasty work.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 5: I agree.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: And then you know, the girls were kind of like
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: taking like for a show, like I think in the
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: beginning of us reviewing this shows, I was saying, Dan,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: the Potoma girls, they work hard for they check every
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: single scene. It's like yeah, yeah, yeah, verbally right for
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: the show to be there during the season.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 5: The reunion was like here, I was like, yawn.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: Who is Stacy.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 8: I think Stacey being the unexpected hero completely knocked them
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 8: off of balance. They thought that they had it figured out,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 8: and seeing Stacy be loved so much threw everybody off.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 7: I agree, one hundred and fifty thousand percent. I think
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 7: that Stacy was the threat that they did not see coming.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 7: And she don't even have to be threat me a
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 7: threat me personally. If we got a star on this cast,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 7: that's bringing all the mega waite attention to the show
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 7: to the point where she is featured in a Vanity
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 7: Fair list. That's good for us. So I don't understand
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 7: the competitive dynamic, right, but I know some people do.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 7: It's just not really my thing. I think that it
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 7: aided the show, and so instead of being intimidated by
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 7: Stacy's catapulted rise to start them lean into that shit,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, And like, let the show
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 7: about Carlos.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 8: Loving Stacy is why the reunion was tepid, because they're like,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 8: but we had a whole plan.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: I don't ruin it because you're clapping for her. Yes, Carlos,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: that the reunion was stepping you know.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: Again, we had were always looking forward to Oh Angel,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: were gonna bring it up the reunion since she got
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: five thousand episodes at the end of the season about Colorado,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: I thought for sure, like after she had done seen
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: a few I thought for sure she would like that
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: would be her time to finally wake it up. She
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: gave nothing, and then when she did try to jump
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: into King's conversation, she was Kate.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 5: Was like, I could speak for myself anyways, and she
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 5: got sunned and it was like.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: She could have She got chin chuck twice during the reunion.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: We rest our case. It wasn't a misunderstandab watched you
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: get chin check on TV? Like nobody's lying on you,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: that's really you.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: What did I do?
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: Want to ask all this though, I'll stummer, Claudia. What
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: did y'all think though of Karen's return to the reunion?
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: There were a lot of chatter online. I would love
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: to get your thoughts on it. Do you think it
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: was anti climatic? Did she come into strong were your
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: what were your.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: Feelings of karen return, Claudia.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: I think because she missed the season and she came
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: at the very end I think she was kind of
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: making up for lost time and with just you know,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: like it's like a relay team and you got the
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: sick and your team is behind, so you like you
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 4: try to go all out when you finally get that stick.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: And I feel like she just went a little came
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: in a little hot for the reunion, like with Wendy,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: where yet y'all haven't been around each other for a while,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: so it's like, why was it so contentious between the two.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: And I just felt like the timing it just kind
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: of rub people the wrong way because we're all being
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 4: empathetic and sympathetic to Wendy and here you come where
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: we're just were sympathetic to you on that last conversation
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: with Andy, and here you come and kind of being
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: mean to Wendy, like and y'all have something in common,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: maybe you know what I mean. Like I felt it
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 4: was a little bit, but I do it did make
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: me realize Karen is needed for the show. But I
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: just felt like she handled the reunion wrong, like coming
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: in so hot at Wendy.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 5: It wasn't the right time.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 6: I think, Dustin, Yeah, I think that.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 7: I mean again, you got to go back to the
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 7: I don't never like starting the story in the middle right.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 7: When Wendy came on to the Real Househi I of
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 7: Potomac in season five, her and Karen did not get along,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 7: and they had previously interacted with each other on the
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 7: social scene in DC, and that was the source of
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 7: their original rift because Karen was acting like she ain't
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 7: no Wendy and had been talking shit about Wendy joining
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 7: the show to some of the other ladies, and that
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 7: created their beef.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 6: They never really got cool cool like that.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 7: They just were both on the same side of the
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 7: Giselle story as the seasons progressed, so they never was
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 7: homies like that in the first damn place. So I
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 7: personally wasn't surprised by the tension in their relationship. In
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 7: addition to the fact that we left off of last
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 7: year's reunion with a blatant omission from Karen's thank you
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 7: video as she entered treatment and subsequently her prison sentence
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 7: for her DUI shit, she left Wendy out of that,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 7: so we were already anticipating them having a conversation about
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 7: that and there being some sort of exchange. I wasn't
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 7: surprised as far as her return on the reunion feeling
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 7: anti climactic.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 6: We can blame Bravocan for that.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 7: When Karen was brought back into the forefront post release
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 7: at Bravo Khan, there's the moment, right, so all of
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 7: the fans of the show who are motivated to talk
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 7: about it and tweet about it, the people that give
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 7: a dam we were plugged into the fact that Karen
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 7: actually appeared at Bravo Khan, and so that kind of
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 7: took the wind out of the sales of her return
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 7: to the show for us that knew that had already
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 7: seen her since she been out.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 6: Basically, I think that if they wanted to.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 7: Make the reunion the moment, then they should have either
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 7: not televised. They should have made no pictures or anything
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 7: available for Karen being at Bravo Khan and save that
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 7: fanfare and the moment. The impact of the moment should
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 7: the reunion stage and then we would have had it.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Blue, with your thoughts on well, you pretty much
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: intimated Can's return you felt disappointed by overall?
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 6: What do you think?
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: There's one?
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 8: I agree with everything that was set except for one thing.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 8: Karen and Wendy had beef before because Karen was dismissive
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 8: to Wendy and Wendy was like, you know, I'm not
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 8: going okay, She's like mss EFI. However, though intimacy is
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 8: forced through adversity, and the season before Karen had the
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 8: DUI finally blow up in her face, her and Wendy
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 8: had become cool because Wendy was the one who was
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 8: showing her the most grace during her heavy season, and
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 8: it felt like they had called a truce. I don't
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 8: know if you ever had beef with somebody and you
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 8: call the truth. I think remember when Claudia talked about
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 8: her and Tamar, you're actually more intentional. It isn't that true, Claudia,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 8: When you have beef with somebody and you'll call the truth?
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 8: Are you not more intentional about being kind and being
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 8: thoughtful and beautiful? Because you know that we started off funky,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 8: So I'm gonna be extra gracious.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: To you to show you that I sincerely want to
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: fix it.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 8: Seeing Wendy extend so much grace to Karen the entire season,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 8: and then at the finale for Wendy to find out
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 8: the person that she's been mindful of that we've seen
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 8: on camera this is not subjective like we saw it
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 8: on camera, has been still secretly talking shit while she
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 8: thought they had a truce. Wendy sincerely was blind Siah
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 8: that I thought we were Gucci. That's why I've been
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 8: working so hard to support you during this funky season.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 8: I'm hurt cam turd, Wendy being hurt into Wendy betraying
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 8: her darvo you know, Deny attack, reverse victim and offender.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 8: And now she's like, well, bitch, I don't owe you anything, right.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 8: I think it's nasty work. When you know that someone
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 8: thinks that you have a truce, you're still talking shit.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 8: You get caught talking shit, and then you come back
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 8: as if you're the victim, and you come back and
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 8: if you're the victim hot when they're down and they're
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 8: in the exact same position where they showed you grace.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 8: There's something nasty about that that, whether it surprises me
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 8: or not, leaves a very bad taste in my mouth
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 8: because the hypocrisy in that, and then to say something
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 8: nasty and then couch it with I'm trying to be
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 8: like a mom to you.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 6: No, we don't need mothers like that, right, You ain't
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 6: my damn mama.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a nasty mother. I don't like it.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 7: Second, also thought that Wendy was reaching. We know Karen
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 7: was reaching. Karen's reached for the reasons that she takes
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 7: umbrage with different people in the cast for years. She
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 7: said Giselle was death on her husband. She never did.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 7: The statement did not even equate to that. This was
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 7: again the same thing. But I think Wendy kind of reached,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 7: like you called my mom a witch.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 6: No, she didn't.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 7: She referenced like a situation and a rumor that was
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 7: going on. So they both was reaching. To me again,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 7: it all goes back to the fact that Karen never
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 7: really fucked with Wendy like that anyway.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 6: And if you don't believe me, as Vivian.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 7: Okay, you know that friend Vivian who was the source
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 7: of all of that ship that all sat on that
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 7: board to get.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 6: We remember the season five.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: So Rebuild that after reunion.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 7: Wendy got into it with Giselle and them. It lasted
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 7: multiple seasons. Karen and Gazelle are frenemies. Her and Wendy
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 7: found camaraderie in there. Disdain towards Gazelle.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 8: Against Wendy saying, Justelle had my back more than anybody.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 8: Thank you for that letter you left the doctor's menu
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 8: and my mailbox.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 7: Girl, hush exactly blue that you caught that right, like
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 7: it's all the games. So that's why I wasn't surprised
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 7: by the back and forth between the two it.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: One of the biggest moments that happened in this reunion
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: was obviously Monique Samuel's play the recording that was bleeped out.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: I suspected, like we all did, that it could have
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: been one of her children. Ashley Darby revealed to I
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: believe it's Reality Rundown. You know my sources Reality Rundown
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: did a I believe it's a day brunch, day party
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: something like that. Yeah, Aby Ashley was the celebrity guest,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: and Ashley Darby revealed that Monique allegedly, I'll just say
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: like that. She said that the recording on here was
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: Monique son talking and that was what we weren't able
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: to hear. Monique Samuels Well, before I get to that,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: Stacey denied it.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: Stacey looked shocked.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 6: Why are you saying that.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 5: She did?
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 10: Stacey looked like what she looks shocked? Like, what what
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 10: are we doing here? And I wasn't even sort of like,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 10: what is what is happening?
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: What does this mean? Blah blah blah blah blah.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: So KK said that Dustin's favorite housewife, Cookie Cook.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: You can make it through a whole show without Cookie. Cookie.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: It is like the MVP of this season. She's our master.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 6: What she tells? Remember what she told?
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: So y'all said that Cookie called her and said, Chris
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: Samuels is mad he heard that his name was brought
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: up in the scene and that he's going to send
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: a seat and assist. Cookie said that Cookie has since
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: revealed that she did not call KK because we saw
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: our sources. But the biggest revelation that came out of
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: that is the fact that Monique Samuel's today released a
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: message that said a lot of time has passed since
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: the reunion was filmed, and after gaining more information since then,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: I don't believe Stacey had anything to do with any
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: of that bullshit.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: I'll probably go on live.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: On Instagram at some point this week and give y'all
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: the entire story. I haven't watched the reunion at so yet,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: so let me catch up and get back to you,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: but I at least wanted to clear her name on
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: all of it.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: Blue, what are your thoughts?
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 8: I'm happy you asked me because I've been chomping at
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 8: the bit about this. Oh I'm happy I went first
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 8: for this one child. Let me express something to you.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 8: I have a lot of lawyer friends, right, and my
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 8: lawyer friends are always teaching me manipulation tactics about how
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 8: you railroad somebody who's innocent, And this had so many earmarkers.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: I was like, is this the boy that cried wolf?
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: The one time Stacy tell them the truth?
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 8: They're about to have a smoking bomb on her because
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 8: the audio was a child saying who is Stacy?
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: Who is Stacy?
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 8: All it takes is Chris Samuels walking around the house
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 8: cussing about Stacy for them to say that it doesn't
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 8: improve shit, It doesn't prove anything. A child asking who
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 8: is Stacy? Why does she keep coming up? Does not
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 8: mean that Stacy sleeping with your ex husband. It was
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 8: so watery and circumstantial. But you know who revealed themselves,
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 8: Cause whenever people have flimsy evidence, you can always want
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 8: to see who was quick to believe it and who's
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 8: quick to jump on it because that's how they felt already,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 8: and they were just looking for a reason.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: Tia was so thirsty about this.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 8: Tia was like, and that's why I was trying to
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 8: sell a house to Angel and I had water and
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 8: you didn't. Because Stacy's the devil. She's gonna eat all
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 8: our husbands. Because the baby said, who's Stacy? Girls, sit
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 8: the hell down, they showed they looked stupid. Ashley, Yes,
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 8: it was the baby, everybody, honest, the child said Stacy's name. Yes,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 8: the baby said the word Stacy. Now what like, y'all
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 8: are so desperate and thirsty to take this lady down?
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 8: Your envy were so loud on something so flimsy. All
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 8: it revealed was Stacey's exactly the star that Carlo said
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 8: she did and ruined the arm again. It was all circumstantial, bs,
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 8: and y'all jumped on it because y'all were waiting for
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 8: a reason to not look stupid because the season got
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 8: away from you.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 6: Uh, Dustin, I'm with Blue on this.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying Like this, it was a
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 7: reach to me and vindication is what it's all about.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 7: That that message that Monique released today saying that saying
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 7: that literally verbatim, Stacey didn't have nothing to do with
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 7: that bullshit. That's what Monique type the message literally verbatim said,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 7: I now know that Stacey didn't have nothing to do
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 7: with that bullshit. So that's why you never really jump
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 7: on the bandwagon like that. Obviously they had some sort
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 7: of dealings whatever, But that's whether or not her and
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 7: Chris know each other and have engaged in whatever way.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 7: Is a different conversation from her having conversations having conversations
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 7: with Chris that are negative about Monique and her participation
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 7: in the show.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 6: Two different things. And either she did it or she didn't.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 6: So I don't know. But like you said, Stacey was shot,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 6: she wasn't moving, there was no pivoty of her neck.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 6: It was very much all of that, you know what
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 6: I'm saying. So, yeah, Claudia, I think that.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 4: I love First of all, I love Monique for this
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 4: reason like I love people that do this, because she
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 4: could have easily rolled that for next season then had
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 4: a reason to just have a little beef with Stacy.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: She didn't.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 5: She chose to be like, you know what, I care
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 5: about what's right and what's wrong. I love that.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 4: I love that I just feel like Stacy don't help
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: her case when she relying so much. So yeah, so
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: that's what, like, it makes it easy to be like, Okay, Stacy,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 4: Like I'm so confused about why she told her producers
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 4: she kind of went out with them. Then there was
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 4: a picture that she did and that she did whatever.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 4: It doesn't help a show like this. You gotta know
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 4: they got to jump on that and make a mountain
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 4: a moo a mohill into a mountain because the.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: Mountain again, you've been climbing all episodes.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 4: Yes, so you know, I think you know you ain't
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 4: help you, You help them, You help them have like
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 4: villain demonize you. But I think I think the MVP
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 4: nut situation is Monique for clearing her name when she'd
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 4: have to.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: To.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: But yeah, so we we now wrapped up this season,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: and I want to ask the three of you this
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: question and listen. I will also join into okay, predictions
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: and or wants, starting with Claudia. We know that the
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: reunion is the final moment for a housewife to make
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: it to the next season. Claudia, this was a cast
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: full of was it seven people? Seven housewives? I think, yeah, Claudia,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: who's your prediction that will was the common banks that
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: would make it to the next cycle of Top Model?
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 4: Should I say make it or not make it? Because
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 4: it'd be less time to say not make it?
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, let's go Claudia Jordan, who do you
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: think will get the cut and not return to the
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: next seas the Housewives of.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to say Angel because we were waiting
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 4: for this reunion to be the thing to bring her back,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 4: and she had three, four or five episodes of her
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 4: being the lead, and then I thought the reunion was
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 4: gonna be like Herbie shut everybody down, bam bam bam,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 4: coming with.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 5: The nothing it was. It fell flat. I wanted. I
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 5: wanted to see fireworks. I wanted to see her wake
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 5: it up.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 4: I wanted I wanted to see her say I heard
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: what all you bitches said about me all season long
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: after that, I'm seen the confessionals and the green screens,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: or got back to me and let me shut you
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 4: all down.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 5: She did nothing. And then when she tried to even jump.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 4: On her best ees story, her friend, like y'all said,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 4: Chin checked her. It just she just gave ineffective.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 5: It gave like womp womp, and I wanted it to.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 5: I know, Angel, you think we hate you. We don't
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 5: hate you, but we're waiting.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: No on the thing's dust and does I'm teasing, I'm teasing.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 5: She was, Yes, she was supposed to unload the clip
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 5: and nope.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 4: The not only did the clip not get unloaded, she
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 4: didn't even show up to the shooting range and didn't
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 4: even get a license for the gun, and didn't even
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 4: purcha and didn't even bring a vest. There was nothing she.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 8: Couldn't find that They put a pin on her phone
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 8: and she went to the wrong location.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 5: Claudia, Yeah, yeah, or was a water gun? I was like, damn.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 5: I was waiting, like when we're gonna get to when
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 5: we're gonna get to Angel's part. Did she have a package?
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 5: I can't remember she had she.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: Had a package if those who don't know, cause somebody
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: act was a package. A package is with they're a montage.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: Of the scenes that you filmed for the season and
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: they play it. It's sort of like your highlight reel.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 4: Claudia and Giselle, you gotta come with her next season,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 4: like your a legacy. You're in the legacy. See you
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 4: have position because of experience. But we want to see girl.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 4: I want to see you Dayton, I want to see
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 4: the congressman. I want to see whoever else dating. She
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 4: said she had a full dating life, but we see
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 4: all that she's some saying. She said it in the reunion,
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 4: but we saw not one piece of it the whole season,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 4: and it was like one hundred episodes. It felt like you,
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 4: you gotta come with it next season and be be big,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 4: be big dog on there. And Karen, don't just come
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: back being mean. Karen, you have a lot that I
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 4: would love to know about your story, Like your story
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 4: is so interesting, like your redemption story and all.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: That you know.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 5: You know, it was good. You came back feisty, but
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 5: I want to see more so. But I'm not worried
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 5: about Karen not having a storyline.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 3: She's gonna have it.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 5: She's gonna have it. But yeah, no, I'm good.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: I hope Cloudy is right.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 8: You ever meet somebody who you think is a bitchy
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 8: or mean and then you talk to them you realize
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 8: it's just a little stupid, like if you were giving
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 8: them too much credit.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 8: That's how I feel about Angel. We didn't misunderstand her.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 8: That wasn't much there to begin with, and which is
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 8: actually unfortunate because I thought she was misunderstood and I realized,
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 8: oh no, you really are just flat the entire time.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 8: You're just like, you're just flat the entire time. I
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 8: will say this, I think she's the only one who
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 8: I don't want to come back, but I fear might
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 8: come back because she because they want to see if
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 8: she can't have a redemption arc. I will say Andy,
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 8: Andy has never had a reunion. I feel like dustin
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 8: the history right now. He's never had a reunion where
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 8: he intentionally said I don't feel like talking about the finale,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 8: and the finale was all about Angel. That felt loud
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 8: to me that he did not want to sit too
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 8: much on a finale of his own franchise because he's
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 8: bored of it.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: I think he's tired of Angel. So if she comes back,
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: it will not be because of Andy Cohen.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 8: Four episodes of like what, I don't know what interesting?
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 8: He can't had his expressions. He's exhausted with her.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: But this is what I this is why I find fascinating.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: Yet we've all had our opinions about Angel, and I'm
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: not changing one that I've had, right, she had good moments,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: bad moments, whatever.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 5: What I do find so.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: Fascinating is.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: It's some interesting way she was like the sort of
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: like engine this season, and I find that to be
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: fascinating that if you remove Angel from the equation, would
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: we have eighteen episodes without the reunion. But that's why
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: I find fascinating about it. If I'm making sense, nothing, an.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 8: STD that you can't get rid of you have to
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 8: keep going back to the doctor to get antibiotics doesn't
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 8: mean you enjoyed it.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: Or want to do that again.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 6: No, you're not making no sense. No, you ain't making
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 6: no damn sense. Carlos season. There's another way. There's another way.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 6: There's another way.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 7: People have committed themselves to this idea that chaos and
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 7: behavior that is obtuse of what is normal and expected
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 7: is the only way to get attention on reality shows.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 6: And it's simply not true.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 7: If Harness properly, if produced correctly, If yes, she was
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 7: a key part of this season, she was so boring,
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 7: so like, yes she is a housewife, all things like.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 6: Concurrently all true at the same time.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 7: You know, what I'm saying, but her lackluster performance was
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 7: not the key to us being interested in watching the show.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 7: It just did not equate to that, and I don't
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 7: want to see her fail. I've long said there was
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 7: opportunities for her to highlight her business, and as soon
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 7: as we keep talking about the word package, there's a
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 7: way to package her business in a way that is
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 7: appealing to viewers that is not depending upon her personality
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 7: shining through for its success, as is the case when
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 7: you're a housewife.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 7: So I just don't think that that was the right
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 7: fit for her. Hopefully there's another world where that exists
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 7: in the meantime, much like that film Angels in the Outfield. Now, Tia,
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. I was not impressed, was not.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 7: Tia is very much a b character to me. She
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 7: responds to situations. She really didn't drive. There was no
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 7: driving force, there was no memorable moment, there was nothing.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 7: And I personally lost interest in Tia when she attempted
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 7: to have that screaming match with Stacy at the reasonably Shady.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 6: However many episodes party they had. That's where I lost interest.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 7: Then she was messy going up to meet with Timo
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 7: and Stacey and Arabella and getting in the car running back,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 7: looking up behind his elle very it felt it just
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 7: wasn't authentic to me. So personally, I think there's space
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 7: there in the cast for Karen's return and maybe a
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 7: new housewife. Maybe we actually bring Cheris back, since she's
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 7: deeply entrenched in the storylines. You know, never my favorite housewife.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 7: But this conversation isn't about my favorites. It's about what
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 7: makes sense for the show. So that's what I think.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 7: I think that Angel don't really, based on what I've
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 7: seen and her responses online, I don't really I feel
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 7: one hundred percent confident that she has a desire to
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 7: be on the show anymore, right, So if it's her
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 7: wish to exit, then I wish her will, and there
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 7: creates room for somebody else.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 6: I was ahead.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 7: No, I'm just saying everybody else can stay. I feel
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 7: like Angeline, seea Angeline. Fia did their part by feeling
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 7: holding space this season in their own ways, but they
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 7: were always temporary to me.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'll say this and we're gonna move on with
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: the super chats.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 3: Look, the three of y'all says something that.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: Resonates to what I'm about to say, which is when
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: you saw the girls have their opinions about Wendy, when
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: you saw the girls try to you know, all gang
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: up on Stacy.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 3: What what the three of you guys are saying is
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: y'all won't real friends?
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 8: You know?
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: I remember when you know, back in the day, when
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: you saw you know, Housewives and Clauda. You saw this
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: on Atlanta where those when the girls were friends, they
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: had each other's back even the friend was lying, they'd
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: be like, I'll go, fuck, that's my friend, Like that's
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: my friend. What we're seeing a potomac is there isn't
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: genuine friendships. Dustin called it out earlier to where it's
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  Speaker 2: sort of like no one wants to get to know
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: each other on a deep level. The reason why I
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: had an eventual reaction to the commentary about Wendy is
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  Speaker 2: because y'all sent.
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  Speaker 3: I listened.
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  Speaker 2: I've never hung out with Wendy on a one on
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  Speaker 2: one level in terms of like dinner, but the relationship
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  Speaker 2: I have with her as Mini skul as it may seem.
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  Speaker 9: I.
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  Speaker 3: Can't bring it to myself to to to to say
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  Speaker 3: something negative about her.
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  Speaker 2: You girl, spent almost seven years with her, and off
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: the bat, it's Shaye for Shay. Claudia called it where
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: all these girls clocking for work, And I think what's
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: missing is real friendships, like I really care about you,
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: I really want to see you do well.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 3: Yes, I could disagree with what you did, but I
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 3: really care about you. I do think the show needs
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 3: that coming coming into the next.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: Season, which is why I agree with Dustin. I'm not
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: saying bring Cherise back as a full time housewife. I'm
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: not saying that, and I only think she wants that.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 3: The best part.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: About this season is what happened with Charisse and Ashley
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: after the show wrapped, the conversation of this woman kissing
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: her friend's son.
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  Speaker 3: We never talked about that reality television. So the fact
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 3: that we're not going we're not getting it. The fact
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 3: that Sharis was at the reunion was a huge mistake.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 6: Huge you.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: She can be on Sherry, Reality with the King and
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: all these other programs, but the one show to where
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: it may actually interesting, we don't get. Shari's pob miss opportunity.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: The other missopportunity we don't get is if you're gonna
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: bring gonna meek back, bring back Canvas. I need to
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: get I want to see. Yes, I don't want to
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: see people meet each other because I'm gonna tell you what.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 3: It is and this is me. This is me low
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 3: key just sending some of the girls.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: I think some of the girls feel like, if you
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: could last more than two seasons, maybe all invest in
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: a friendship.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 6: I know how it works.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 3: The reason why you.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: See these girls, Hayes, is because they feel like, if
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: you can survive more than one season or two, maybe
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: I could be your friends.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna waste time.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: They they saw Neka last one season unfortunately.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 3: And really they really they really like her and they
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 3: hang out with her. But we got to get back
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: to some real stories.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: Bring back series, bring back Candice, bring back Robin. I
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: want to I want to get back to these girls.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 3: I getting it.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 6: I was just about cars.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 7: I'm sorry, how did Robert I want to interrupt, But
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 7: god damn lot you know Carlos are to come.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 5: I actually I agree with you on that.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 4: Yes, I listened to the real relationship playing people that
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 4: don't have any connection like that's the.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 5: Friends I know.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you I I listened to rhythmby Shady
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: on the Black Offect Network and.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 3: Robin Robin got some.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: Strong opinions about Ashley and some of these girls, and
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: I feel like Ashley and I feel like there's something
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 2: with Ashley.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 3: Robin my opinion it is actually replaced her as the
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 3: Green Eyed bandage. And don't you want to see a comedy?
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: When Nini Lee came back season eight and they went
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: to Jamaica and Charae and Faedr Porsche told Meini, where
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: you know Cynthia and Kenya are BFFs, And Nini said, BFFs,
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: they're b f f N best friend for now, I'm back,
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: and and and it raised the stakes of the friendship
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: because Kenya felt, you're dissing because Nini's back. That's and
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: and Nini Kenya has think the friendship ain't the same today.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: So my point is, I don't want to see a
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: groga Hayes. I don't want to see you know, the
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: girls talking about I want to see real steaks and friendships.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 6: Yes, I'm with it.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 7: Let's have the all star season of Potomac. That's what
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 7: I think Season eleven needs to be. We don't need
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 7: no new blood. We don't to get to know nobody.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 7: We need to dive back into the texture of the
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 7: fabric of Potomac. I agree, let's bring back the old guard.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 7: Let's reintroduce some old names and faces, like Robin, like Charise,
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 7: like hopefully to God, Candice, even though congratulations to her
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 7: for signing with Cia right and dribbling that Traders basketball
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 7: through her legs and break through the hoop nothing but
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 7: net like she was supposed to. That's how you're handling
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 7: opportunity like that. Kudos to her. I love seeing that shit.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 7: But so hopefully she has the time, because I feel
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 7: like she's gonna be bombarded with opportunity and God bless
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 7: her for that. If she has the time, I hope
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 7: she comes back to the show. I would love an
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 7: all Star season next season. Bring back Charise, Candace, and Robin.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 5: I like her.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 8: The question we forgot something my brain is tingling right now. Well,
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 8: how do we feel about the fact that actually said
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 8: that Charise was broke? So she that's why she talked
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 8: about hunting, I mean kissing her son and.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 3: Exactly the moment.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 8: If Charisa had actually grabbed that moment maybe on camera
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 8: more maybe Bravo would have brought her on, but it
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 8: fell out.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 3: She said that doing that live brush yesterday.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but I'm saying, if Charisa had a big reaction
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 8: on camera, I think maybe the scene would have garnered
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 8: the attention that deserved in the Bravo universe, because it
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 8: feels like all the fun stuff happened off.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 3: Camera and they kept exact.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah, they tend to not really give a damn if
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 8: they can't, you know, capitalize and have it on camera.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 8: I do think that the idea that Ashley was like,
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 8: I'm trying to throw you a bone, bitch, or you
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 8: could come back on the show and Seris let it
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 8: fall to her feet, but throwing the with Carlos and Sherry.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 3: I'm saying, so it worked out.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 8: A part of me is intrigued by that that somebody
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 8: who's a stunt queen was trying to give out stunts
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 8: like trick or treat Candy.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 3: I would love somebody to have bring that back up
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 3: next season, Scharise.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 6: I can't.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 3: If I'm saying this, I would love you back.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 4: I think it has has to happen, Like I feel
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 4: like that a little a bit of a redemption for Ashley.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 4: How everyone's coming after her like she was a child molester.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 6: But really, yeah, actually, you know, I love it.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 5: I don't love her. I'm just fair.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 4: And I've also been in a position where a lot
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 4: of people hated me for things that were out of
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 4: my control or a misrepresentation, So I guess I relate
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 4: in that regard to what that would feel like, right, Like,
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 4: we really was looking at her like she was a
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 4: goddamn child molester because she kissed her her friend's son
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 4: that's ten years.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 5: Younger than her.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 4: But in reality, now hearing the Mama was like kind
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 4: of pushing it on some Chris Jenner shit. Okay, Like
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 4: that's to me is a huge difference. Like you can
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 4: hate her for whatever other reasons or not like her,
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 4: but like, in that situation, I think that is a
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 4: big deal that needs to be on camera.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 5: They are definitely missing out that.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 3: It's crazy to.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: Me that cherise Is wasn't at the reunion, which I'll
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: find if y'all don't bring Cheris back.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 3: I don't know what ch'all want the show to be,
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 3: because can we at least get hurt Ashley.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine her actually one on one and the
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: fact that actually said, Sharie fell on hard financial times
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: and I tried to throw her a bone, get a
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: bit and really have a real conversation.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 3: Actually, I'm actually on actually side for ones. Yes, So
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 3: that's our five sense.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 6: Make it makes sense, Make it makes sense, produce.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 3: One of my favorite concentrators. All right, Range good. Thank
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 3: you to the seventy two hundred people that to in tonight.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 3: We love you guys, do We love you guys, and
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 3: we will see you guys next Monday. Have a great week.
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