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Speaker 1: from house Stop works dot com? Hey, and welcome to
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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Chuff Bryant.
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Speaker 1: Don't spray me Brom. Yeah, I forgot about that guy.
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Speaker 1: Don't taste me Bro, Florida and now man leave it
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Speaker 1: to a gator. Who was it that was speaking at it?
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Speaker 1: I don't remember. Was it Al Gore? Mmmm? I don't remember.
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Speaker 1: And it was a politician? Was Al Gore? Kids got
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Speaker 1: rowdy and they taste and don't taste me bro. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that was fun. That was a fun meme for a
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Speaker 1: little while. So, speaking of memes, Chuck crazy that you
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Speaker 1: brought that up. Yes, have you seen the casual pepper
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Speaker 1: spray cop meme? Yeah? I have seen it. I think
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Speaker 1: that what this this University of californ Wi Davis cop
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Speaker 1: who famously sprayed these very docile, peaceful students. It was
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Speaker 1: awful to watch. But this meme is hysterical, Yeah, I think. Yeah. Well,
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Speaker 1: they keep taking him and inserting him into like famous pictures,
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Speaker 1: photographs and paintings and things like that my favorite one
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Speaker 1: I've seen so far. As he's spraying Julie Andrews in
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Speaker 1: the field from the sound of music. Yea, that there's
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Speaker 1: a whole tumbler um. I think it's just pepper spray
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Speaker 1: cop is what it's called. It's already by the time
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Speaker 1: this comes out, that will already be old. I think
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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty much there now. I had a
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Speaker 1: pretty short run, but it's a pretty pretty good example
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Speaker 1: of how you know, if you do something in the
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Speaker 1: age of the Internet that the general populist doesn't like,
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Speaker 1: they're gonna get you for it. And they got this guy,
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Speaker 1: Lieutenant John Pike of the Davis Police Department, right yeah,
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Speaker 1: and apparently Anonymous published his like home address. His cell
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Speaker 1: phone number is emails email I address all this stuff.
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Speaker 1: That's not cool. I thought that the home addresses maybe
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Speaker 1: a bit too far um. But anyway, this this guy,
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Speaker 1: this pepper spray cop um, the just everything about it
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Speaker 1: has been extremely controversial. And actually the guy who helped
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Speaker 1: weaponize pepper spray for the FBI, uh Cameron Logman. He
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Speaker 1: basically said, quote, I have never seen such an inappropriate
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Speaker 1: and improper use of chemical agents. Basically, the a c.
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Speaker 1: L U is saying, like, you can't do this, dude,
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Speaker 1: Like you can't just pepper spray people who are sitting
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Speaker 1: quietly and peacefully, non threatening lee. It's supposed to be
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Speaker 1: as a you know, for cops, it's supposed to be
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Speaker 1: if someone is threatening me physically or resisting arrest in
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Speaker 1: some way physically, right, And in that sense, pepper spray
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Speaker 1: is extremely effective. One of the reasons why is it
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Speaker 1: doesn't trigger your it doesn't depend on a sensation of pain.
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Speaker 1: It circumvents your pain center and just elicits a completely physical,
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Speaker 1: non cerebral response. So whether you're on PCP or totally
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Speaker 1: drunk or psychotic, or whatever the case may be, and
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Speaker 1: there's you're in some sort of state where you can't
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Speaker 1: experience pain, this stuff is still going to incapacitate you.
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Speaker 1: If you can't experience pain, it's going to incapacitate you,
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Speaker 1: and it's going to be extremely painful. I think what
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Speaker 1: was so startling about Pike was that how casual it
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Speaker 1: was in the video. It looked like he was spraying, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, we'd be gone on his yard. That's what
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Speaker 1: got everybody. Yeah, that and the fact that everybody was
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Speaker 1: just sitting docile and quietly. You know, it was horrifying.
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Speaker 1: Did you see what Megan Kelly said on Fox News. Yes,
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Speaker 1: she dismissed pepper spray after this incident as quote a
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Speaker 1: food product. Essentially, She's right in some ways. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's definitely derived from food. You can say that pepper
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Speaker 1: spray is a natural. It's made from naturally. I think
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Speaker 1: to see her get sprayed in the face, so and
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Speaker 1: see if she's still at that it's a food product.
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Speaker 1: I would I would take um McDonald's cheeseburger spray to
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Speaker 1: the face any day of the week. Pepper sprayed not
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Speaker 1: so much. You want to talk about this, this is
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Speaker 1: one of our rare topical timely timely topical ones. Well, yeah,
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Speaker 1: because it's being used all over the place. So, I mean,
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Speaker 1: you see, Davis got such a a lot of coverage
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Speaker 1: because it was so casual in heinous. But they're using
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Speaker 1: pepper spray all over the place with this Occupy Wall
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Speaker 1: Street movement, all over the place. And the problem is
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Speaker 1: is you're not supposed to be doing that, even though
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Speaker 1: it is considered a non lethal weapon, even though it
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Speaker 1: supposedly wears off after four to six hours. You're not
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Speaker 1: supposed to spray peaceful demonstrators who are exercising their Second
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Speaker 1: Amendment First Amendment right to assemble. It's all of them.
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Speaker 1: So all right, let's talk about pepper spray. Um we
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Speaker 1: uh we know the active ingredient pepper spray because it's
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Speaker 1: also one of the active ingredients and peppers, chili, peppers,
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Speaker 1: and cayenne. It's uh oleo resin capsicum, or O C
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Speaker 1: as they like to call it. You know, I read
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Speaker 1: I wrote the article on bear spray on the site.
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Speaker 1: The same stuff, same stuff. Basically, it just shoots farther
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Speaker 1: for obvious reasons, because you want to stop a bear
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Speaker 1: thirty feet away and not five feet away. Um. But
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Speaker 1: the O C is a natural oil found in a
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Speaker 1: lot of peppers, a lot of different types of peppers,
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Speaker 1: and O C has a compound called cap sasan, and
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Speaker 1: that is what is responsible for that burning sensation. Even
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Speaker 1: though it's colorless, odorless, flavorless, that's the burn you're gonna
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Speaker 1: feel when that seed, actually the pepper itself, but especially
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Speaker 1: the seed hits your tongue, isn't it. Yeah? Um? And
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Speaker 1: cap sason itself is colorless and odorless and flavorless, but
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Speaker 1: it's extreme only potent, very So one milligram of pure
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Speaker 1: cap sasin can cause blistering on your skin. That's substantial.
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Speaker 1: That's pretty serious stuff. So it's a natural compound. It's
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Speaker 1: also a blistering agent. You know. I think people are
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Speaker 1: like people like Megan Kelly who say, well, it's just
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Speaker 1: a food product, natural. Um, it can still cause blisters
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Speaker 1: on your skin. So with pepper spray, basically pepper spray
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Speaker 1: is is cap sasin mixed with say water oil. Well
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Speaker 1: is oil already okay, but it can also be mixed
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Speaker 1: with an oil based or water based solution. UM. Then
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Speaker 1: you put it in a canister with a propellant that
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Speaker 1: helps shoot it, and you um uh air soolize the
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Speaker 1: whole thing. You pressurize it is that is that a word?
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Speaker 1: It is? Now? I like it. You pressurize it. So
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Speaker 1: then when you press a button and everything's deep pressurized,
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Speaker 1: it goes shooting out and stick to the face of
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Speaker 1: some protester or a man on PCP or in the
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Speaker 1: case of the article I sent you from the New
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Speaker 1: York Times, it had a lovely picture of an eighty
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Speaker 1: four year old woman that occupy Wall Street that was
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Speaker 1: pepper sprayed in the face and it looked pretty awful.
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Speaker 1: I can't remember her name, but she's like a lifelong
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Speaker 1: protester and a lifelong activists and um, yeah she got
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Speaker 1: sprayed in Seattle, right. I bet she's had it more
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Speaker 1: than once. Then she's like, take more than pepper spray
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Speaker 1: to stop me. So there's three basic patterns that you
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Speaker 1: can spray this this liquid pepper out of your little dispenser.
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Speaker 1: It can be the stream, and chances are if you
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Speaker 1: have one of the little tiny caps are not capsule sized,
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Speaker 1: but like the little canister in your purse, then it's
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Speaker 1: probably gonna be the little stream that you see coming
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Speaker 1: out close range. Right in the eyes is where you
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Speaker 1: want to put it. But I mean it packs a
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Speaker 1: punch because it's super concentrated. Yeah, big time. Um, it's
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Speaker 1: just tough to hit your target. Yeah, So that's just
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Speaker 1: alone's like right up on top of you. The mist
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Speaker 1: is uh fine, you know missed. Obviously, liquid is sprayed
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Speaker 1: out and it's gonna cover a larger area make it
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Speaker 1: much easier to hit your target. And then the fog
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Speaker 1: is similar to a miss, but it's even wider and
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Speaker 1: it looks like Pike was using like the hip from
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Speaker 1: the hip canister a big one missed and or fog.
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Speaker 1: And there's also another one that's not mentioned. There's foam,
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Speaker 1: and foam has the able to deal there. Foam has
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Speaker 1: the additive advantage of not blowing back in your face,
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Speaker 1: which is a kind of a problem if you ever
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Speaker 1: are spraying somebody with an assailant. I just know where
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Speaker 1: the wind is and get the hit up wind. Do
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Speaker 1: you watch cops? Uh No, I watched it occasionally for fun.
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Speaker 1: I think I mentioned that before because it makes me
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Speaker 1: feel better about myself. I saw one the other day
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Speaker 1: when that was this guy like he wouldn't come out
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Speaker 1: of this really dense shrub, and uh so the cops
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Speaker 1: went in there after him, and then another one like
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Speaker 1: sprayed the heavy fog one and all these cops came
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Speaker 1: out and they were like, we got them, we got them,
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Speaker 1: but they couldn't see anything. It's like, man, you guys
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Speaker 1: did that in the wrong order, my friend, and it
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Speaker 1: wasn't funny. Of course, I don't want to see cops
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Speaker 1: pepper spray, so I'm not making fun of that, but
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Speaker 1: it was pretty funny at the time. So, uh, you're
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Speaker 1: gonna get about one to sixty bursts in your little
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Speaker 1: thing in your purse. It's about four and a half
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Speaker 1: inches long. If you have the little personal dispenser, yes,
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Speaker 1: which basically is just the canister, the trigger button, and
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Speaker 1: if you're smart, you butt the kind that has a
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Speaker 1: safety mechanism. Yeah, you don't want that going off in
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Speaker 1: your purse. No, you don't. Um And actually a pretty
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Speaker 1: good thing to do is to look to the left
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Speaker 1: or the right of the pepper spray you're buying at
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Speaker 1: the hardware store and get the medicated white specially formulated
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Speaker 1: for treating pepper spray. How did they sell those right
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Speaker 1: next to them? They tend to yees, So if you
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Speaker 1: have some in your person you're carrying that, you probably
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Speaker 1: want to keep these medicated wipes too, just in case
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Speaker 1: of an accident, because that would stink. I saw the
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Speaker 1: history of pepper spray, not the spray, but people have
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Speaker 1: actually been using hot peppers as defense and as torture
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Speaker 1: devices for like thousands and thousands of years. Apparently the
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Speaker 1: Japanese geisha would stick these peppers in there like slice mopen,
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Speaker 1: stick them in their kimonos. So if any guy got
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Speaker 1: a little too rough. Just put it in as fat
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Speaker 1: as pepper in his fat face. Yeah, that would do it.
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Speaker 1: Um and the Maya actually had they were well aware
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Speaker 1: and well versed with hot peppers living in Central America. UM,
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Speaker 1: And so anytime they were in a fight or a battle,
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Speaker 1: they would light a bunch of them on fire and
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Speaker 1: the smoke would carry to the other army and make
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Speaker 1: them die. I never thought about that, make them want
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Speaker 1: to die? Do you cook with peppers sometimes? I actually
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Speaker 1: made a New Year's resolution this year that I'm going
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Speaker 1: to be a bowl to eat hotter stuff in two
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Speaker 1: because I am a total WoT. I'm myself. I've gotten
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Speaker 1: better at it over the years, but like, yeah, a
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Speaker 1: hall Openio can take me out. Yeah, but some of
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Speaker 1: that stuff is so hot, it's like it's it's not
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Speaker 1: like a pleasurable eating experience any longer for me at least. No.
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Speaker 1: There's also a lot of people who feel the exact opposite.
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Speaker 1: For some reason, they really like peppers. Like Um, there's
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Speaker 1: this place in San Antonio called Chunky Burger. I believe
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Speaker 1: already they have a they have a um burger with
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Speaker 1: it's called the Four Horsemen, and you have to like
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Speaker 1: pre order it and it has habanerro. It has three
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Speaker 1: kinds of peppers that you've heard of, and then it
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Speaker 1: has a fourth pepper called the ghost pepper. Yea, the
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Speaker 1: ghost pepper is called boot Jill Lokia. It's from northern India,
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Speaker 1: Bangladesh area, and it is the world's hottest pepper, hottest
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Speaker 1: natural pepper. And um, there's a video. There's plenty of
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Speaker 1: videos actually on YouTube of people eating these things and
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Speaker 1: then like the reaction that lasts an hour. It is
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Speaker 1: agony for an hour. But in this cheeseburger has the
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Speaker 1: ghost pepper. And when they've made it before, people who
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Speaker 1: are not eating the ghostburger but just happened to be
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Speaker 1: in the restaurant when this thing was being prepared have
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Speaker 1: had to be carted off an ambulance as before because
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Speaker 1: they were in the same building as this stuff when
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Speaker 1: it was seared. The ghost Chili made an appearance on
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Speaker 1: Top Chef last week. Actually, yeah, they're they're doing Texas
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Speaker 1: this year, and so they had one of the challenges
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Speaker 1: was they had all these peppers laid out and they
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Speaker 1: had their Schofield heat units, which we'll talk about here
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Speaker 1: in a second as to how hot they were and
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Speaker 1: you got to choose your pepper and each one had
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Speaker 1: a different amount of money attached to it that you
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Speaker 1: would win if you want the challenge. And only one
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Speaker 1: dude attempted to cook with this, with the ghost pepper,
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Speaker 1: and he actually won the challenge. Ye nice, but I
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Speaker 1: got one for you, and I guess it's not natural.
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Speaker 1: But the Guinness record is the scorpion, the Trinidad scorpion,
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Speaker 1: specifically the scorpion Butch t named for Butch Taylor. So
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Speaker 1: I guess this guy, this hot sall Sky, has made
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Speaker 1: his own pepper somehow and it registers one point four
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Speaker 1: million on the scofield He's like a Luther Burbank chart.
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Speaker 1: And to put that in the comparison, if you've ever
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Speaker 1: had a Heavin Eiro, which is generally known as really hot,
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Speaker 1: that's only three three, so that's crazy. A ghost Chili's
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Speaker 1: about a million, and this trendid scorpions one point four
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Speaker 1: and then pepper spray is that is so hot? Man,
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Speaker 1: this is so scary. Yeah. Pepper spray is rated um
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Speaker 1: between five hundred thousand and five million scofield units. So
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Speaker 1: this ghost pepper or the Scorpion pepper gets up to
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Speaker 1: one point five million. There's pepper spray out there, that's
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Speaker 1: at the five million. Scofield heat units and Schofield heat
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Speaker 1: units are named after an American chemist from like the
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Speaker 1: nineteen tens named Wilburg Schofield, and he came up with
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Speaker 1: a very ingenious idea of how to classify the heat
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Speaker 1: associated with a pepper agreed cap sasan um. He diluted
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Speaker 1: it in sugar syrup and then would have would feed
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Speaker 1: it to human test subjects. And the school filled heat
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Speaker 1: units say like nine thousand or five hundred thousand, that's
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Speaker 1: the number of times it has to be diluted before
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Speaker 1: it becomes undetectable by humans. That's right, And that's the
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Speaker 1: old school method, and it worked pretty well, but it is,
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Speaker 1: you know, subjective, because it's going by but a single
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Speaker 1: person's taste buds. And although I did see when he
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Speaker 1: tested them, they could only taste one and that was it.
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Speaker 1: So he didn't say, like, try these eight peppers, right,
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Speaker 1: let's try this pepper two thousand times. It was like
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Speaker 1: one pepper percession. Nowadays, they have something a little more
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Speaker 1: advanced that's a little more accurate within five and it's
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Speaker 1: called high performance liquid chromatography and I'm not exactly sure
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Speaker 1: how that works, but it works well. Well, it's not subjective,
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Speaker 1: I imagine. Yeah, And they, like I said, it's within
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Speaker 1: five percent, so they can tell. And I don't know
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Speaker 1: how they if they still displayed in scofield units, are not?
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Speaker 1: I think they do? Do they um? And they they
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Speaker 1: basically they take like the cap satan or they take
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Speaker 1: a pepper and just lay it on like a protozoa
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Speaker 1: or in amba and see how long it takes to
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Speaker 1: dissolve it. That's not subjective. When I cook with peppers
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Speaker 1: a d ced and I wear gloves and a painting
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Speaker 1: respirator because I inhale that stuff. And these aren't even
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Speaker 1: the super hot ones. Yeah, I just can't take it. Man.
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Speaker 1: Or if I rub my eyes or my nose or
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Speaker 1: any part of your body bad because what peppers do
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Speaker 1: with this peppers, the cap stasan in a pepper infiltrates
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Speaker 1: your mucous membranes is especially effectively, and especially the mucous
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Speaker 1: membranes that are sensitive to heat or cold, say your nose,
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Speaker 1: your throat, your mouth, your eyes, and is after you
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Speaker 1: cut it open or after you weaponize it. Yeah, but
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Speaker 1: if you just take like a jalapeno and rub it
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Speaker 1: on your skin. You're not gonna get much for react. No, no,
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Speaker 1: because like you said, the most is found in the
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Speaker 1: seeds or at the very least inside um. But like
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Speaker 1: we said, the pepper spray weaponized pepper spray UM with
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Speaker 1: a skillful heat unit of between five hundred thousand and
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Speaker 1: five million um is if if sprayed into these mucous
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Speaker 1: membranes of your area, is going to have a predictable
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Speaker 1: effect on you. And it's going to be horrific and
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Speaker 1: terrible for a while for you. Yes, what it's gonna do.
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Speaker 1: You're gonna feel burning sensation in your in your face,
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Speaker 1: your eyes, your nose, in your mouth, maybe even your throat.
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Speaker 1: Uh that's gonna last anywhere from forty five minutes to
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Speaker 1: an hour. Uh. Your eyes are gonna become really irritated.
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Speaker 1: They might swell shut, might temporarily blind you. Which is
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Speaker 1: a great thing if you're being attacked or if a
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Speaker 1: cop is being assaulted, because it's meant to disable the person.
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Speaker 1: Like it took me a second, that was weird. Uh,
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Speaker 1: what you want to do? You're just trying to disable
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Speaker 1: someone long enough to either arrest them, or to get
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Speaker 1: the heck out of there. If you're just being assaulted
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Speaker 1: on the street and I have a canister of pepper
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Speaker 1: spray and it says it's not immediate in this article
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Speaker 1: it says the effects are immediate. It says the effects
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Speaker 1: are not immediate, So spray and run and make an
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Speaker 1: X at the eyes. Yeah, I'd just like, do you
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Speaker 1: carry this canister and run? Is this in your car? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Really interesting? You know, mess with me, dude, if you
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Speaker 1: see me in the Volvo, you don't want to mess
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Speaker 1: with me. I got one of those collapsible batons, do
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Speaker 1: you really? Yeah? Man, those are scary. I don't keep
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Speaker 1: it in my car. I can brain somebody with that.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll keep it by my bed. Though.
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Speaker 1: It's good thinking take out the knee. I like the
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Speaker 1: pepper spray better, though. I should get some of that.
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Speaker 1: You totally should. I mean I buy it for Emily,
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Speaker 1: of course, what are you trying to say? Hey, if
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Speaker 1: I'm not carrying a class of baton and less than
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Speaker 1: a man, do you know I think you should get
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Speaker 1: a baseball bat with the nails driven through the end
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Speaker 1: of it, like in New York. Okay, all right. Uh,
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Speaker 1: you're not less than a man if you use peppers.
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Speaker 1: I know. I'm very comfortable with myself and my masculinity. Good.
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Speaker 1: Your throat, Josh, might even swell shut. Um, it's not
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Speaker 1: gonna like choke you to death. It depends, well I could,
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Speaker 1: I guess huh. And if you're allergic to anything in there,
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Speaker 1: if you've got like heart trouble, that's how I can
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Speaker 1: choke you to It could be fatal. Yeah, there's plenty
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Speaker 1: of Um, there's plenty of instances of people who are
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Speaker 1: allergic to cap Sason being sprayed with pepper spray and
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Speaker 1: going into an anaphylaxis, which is basically a whole body
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Speaker 1: allergic reaction. And one of the key stars of this
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Speaker 1: reaction is that your airwaghs close and you die. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It says here though that they've never proven that that
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Speaker 1: was the sole cause of death in any case, Absolutely untrue.
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Speaker 1: Is that? Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah, they've proven that, right. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: people with asthma are particularly um plagued when they are
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Speaker 1: sprayed with pepper spray. But the A c. L. You
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Speaker 1: did just this one study of California um in I
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Speaker 1: believe it's ninety two, it became legal for cops to
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Speaker 1: use pepper spray, and then in ninety four in California,
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Speaker 1: and then in ninety four it became legal for the
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Speaker 1: general public to carry. So they cel you did this
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Speaker 1: study of UM pepper spray in California from among cops
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Speaker 1: and found that they were cops were using it statewide.
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Speaker 1: Basically they're spraying people twenty four times a day during
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Speaker 1: this period all over the whole state. They found that
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Speaker 1: one out of about six hundred sprays resulted in the
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Speaker 1: death of the person from sprays and UM about twenty
20:04
Speaker 1: six people total during that time died from me and
20:06
Speaker 1: pepper sprayed. YEA, so potentially lethal. Well, yeah, definitely, and
20:12
Speaker 1: it's for the thing is for the average person though. No,
20:16
Speaker 1: your nose is going to um burn, your eyes are
20:19
Speaker 1: going to burn, You're gonna become temporarily blind. Like you said,
20:22
Speaker 1: you throw, it will swell some so it will be
20:25
Speaker 1: kind of difficult to breathe, but that might last five
20:27
Speaker 1: to fifteen minutes. Um. The problem with pepper spray, other
20:33
Speaker 1: than the fact that it's just being used like it's
20:35
Speaker 1: flower lately, is that, um, there are people out there
20:40
Speaker 1: who can die from its use, and you don't know
20:43
Speaker 1: who's allergic to CAP, says, and they might not even know.
20:46
Speaker 1: Woman in Seattle for insance, great example. If she hadn't
20:49
Speaker 1: built up her hardcore immunity to whatever the years of
20:52
Speaker 1: protesting right, she might have died. She would have been
20:54
Speaker 1: in trouble. So let's say you get sprayed and you're, uh,
20:58
Speaker 1: we're not gonna giving advice to criminals here. But let's
21:00
Speaker 1: say you're a good guy and you're peacefully sitting on
21:04
Speaker 1: the sidewalk and a cop comes by and spraying in
21:07
Speaker 1: the face. It's oil, you gotta remember. So while it
21:10
Speaker 1: may feel great to splash your face with water for
21:12
Speaker 1: a minute, it's not gonna do anything in the long run.
21:16
Speaker 1: And why oil and water don't mix? My main why Well,
21:20
Speaker 1: because H one is a polar molecule, was made of
21:24
Speaker 1: polar molecules, and what's made of nonpolar The water's polar,
21:28
Speaker 1: meaning that say, if you're looking at um a water molecule,
21:31
Speaker 1: on one side, there's gonna be some electrons and one
21:33
Speaker 1: side is gonna be protons positive and negative. Oils are nonpolar,
21:39
Speaker 1: meaning they're electrons are distributed evenly all around. So that's
21:42
Speaker 1: why they don't mix, which is like you said, water
21:44
Speaker 1: is gonna feel good for a second, but it's not
21:46
Speaker 1: gonna do anything to get the oil in the oily
21:50
Speaker 1: capsaction off of your face, which is what you want
21:52
Speaker 1: to do. Uh, you don't want to touch the area
21:55
Speaker 1: on your face or even sprayed, because it's gonna get
21:57
Speaker 1: all over your hands except chuck, except to get your
22:01
Speaker 1: if you're wearing contacts, just jam your fingers into your
22:05
Speaker 1: eyes and get those out. As you can't just throw
22:07
Speaker 1: them away. Well, I don't imagine you would want to
22:10
Speaker 1: reuse us. No, but in this this um this one
22:13
Speaker 1: survival guide I saw it basically said like don't don't
22:16
Speaker 1: keep them. I never thought about that. I guess if
22:18
Speaker 1: you wear glasses, you might be h you know, at
22:22
Speaker 1: an advantage. Yeah, if you had on your sunny especially
22:24
Speaker 1: if you were like wrap around Oakley's or something that
22:27
Speaker 1: you wear on the back of your neck indoors and
22:29
Speaker 1: like restaurants. So what you're saying is if you're a
22:31
Speaker 1: tremendous cheeseball, then then you're fine, but you're probably the
22:35
Speaker 1: one spraying the protesters if you wear Oakley's, Like that
22:38
Speaker 1: is the thing. So there's some dudes that they were like,
22:40
Speaker 1: what what right? Uh? It says in here to to
22:46
Speaker 1: blink rapidly. I think you probably have no choice but
22:50
Speaker 1: to do that. But let's say you're not and you're
22:52
Speaker 1: just going with your eyes open, blink rapidly because you
22:56
Speaker 1: want to tear up as fast as possible. Help flush
22:59
Speaker 1: whatever is in there out. Use hand soap or no
23:02
Speaker 1: tear shampoo, dish soap, any kind of soap. I saw
23:06
Speaker 1: a ratio. Dawn water is a good way to get
23:10
Speaker 1: the oil off of your face. I would just squirt
23:12
Speaker 1: dawn all over my face. I wouldn't be like meture anything.
23:16
Speaker 1: And like you said, medical wipes that those are with
23:18
Speaker 1: the E M T s carry when the cops spray
23:20
Speaker 1: the people and they're like, I can't see right. So
23:22
Speaker 1: if you got these wipes, it's a good idea. UM.
23:26
Speaker 1: And if you're gonna go out and buy pepper spray
23:28
Speaker 1: for use as self defense, UM or for fun, you
23:33
Speaker 1: you are going to want to be familiar with the
23:35
Speaker 1: laws of your state and or country. Yeah. It varies
23:38
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah. Well, like if you live in Canada
23:41
Speaker 1: and Belgium, tough luck for you. You can't own pepper
23:44
Speaker 1: spray unless you're a member of law enforcementber of the military.
23:47
Speaker 1: Canadians are so peaceful though, they really are. You know,
23:49
Speaker 1: they don't eat pepper spray, all right, Uh, stay away
23:54
Speaker 1: from the Belgian so I'm telling you, well, it depends
23:56
Speaker 1: are you talking about the Flanders side or the French side.
24:00
Speaker 1: Belgians actually very nice. I've been there really. Yeah. My
24:03
Speaker 1: uncle lives there, so when I travel to Europe, I
24:06
Speaker 1: stayed with him for a couple of days. It's very nice. Um,
24:10
Speaker 1: Hong Kong. You need a permit. Different states have different
24:14
Speaker 1: laws on like how big of a canister you can use,
24:18
Speaker 1: whether or not you can carry it in yourself. You
24:21
Speaker 1: have to be what percentage of what? Yeah, of cap
24:25
Speaker 1: sasan so imagine if they sell it in your state, though,
24:28
Speaker 1: it would comply right, Oh yeah, not necessarily most likely,
24:33
Speaker 1: but check into it, get on get on the web
24:36
Speaker 1: and look at your local government or law enforcement or
24:39
Speaker 1: just ask a cop. Yeah. And then you want to
24:42
Speaker 1: replace it every three years, Yeah, you want to replace it, Emily.
24:48
Speaker 1: If you love your wife, Chuck, you want to go
24:51
Speaker 1: replace that for Emily. Yeah, that would be bad. If
24:53
Speaker 1: she ekes someone's face and they were like what what
24:56
Speaker 1: nothing but aerosol got me wet. I'm really mad. And
25:01
Speaker 1: what kind of prices are we talking? I don't know,
25:03
Speaker 1: seven dollars, twenty dollars if you have to ask, you
25:07
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Or if twenty dollars is too
25:09
Speaker 1: much for you to spend on your personal protection, then
25:12
Speaker 1: good luck. Right, But hey, in this economy, can't afford
25:19
Speaker 1: good uh tear gas in that case, and do like
25:21
Speaker 1: the Geisha did and go just purchase a ghost chili
25:24
Speaker 1: and keep it in your pocket. Yeah. By the way,
25:26
Speaker 1: the difference between tear gas and uh pepper spray, I
25:30
Speaker 1: will explain right here. Let's let's hear. Tear gas is
25:33
Speaker 1: um manmade chemicals. Pepper spray is derived from pepper's boom. Yeah,
25:39
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25:42
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25:45
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25:50
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25:55
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26:10
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28:12
Speaker 1: on the Air Force one podcast, like from insiders, from
28:15
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28:31
Speaker 1: with those two, I will read the third. Oh all right,
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Speaker 1: do you want to read the third in the middle
28:37
Speaker 1: and I'll read the first in the last or one? Yes,
28:40
Speaker 1: so chuck. Here's one from Brandon in Pittsburgh p a
28:44
Speaker 1: um so. Brandon says, I was listening to your podcast
28:47
Speaker 1: on air Force one and heard you guys were a
28:49
Speaker 1: bit stumped on why the seven forty seven couldn't fly
28:51
Speaker 1: above forty ft. I felt like we got that it
28:54
Speaker 1: disintegrates totally once it reads an ensuing right, not true.
28:58
Speaker 1: I'll save you most of the aeronautics engineeringly lingo and
29:01
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29:04
Speaker 1: thin to support the weight of the aircraft. Getting an
29:07
Speaker 1: aircraft to flies all about moving air over the wings.
29:10
Speaker 1: A seven forty seven is not capable of going fast
29:12
Speaker 1: enough through the thin air to create enough lift. So
29:15
Speaker 1: to answer your question, then forty seven will will not
29:19
Speaker 1: fall apart or lose its life support capabilities oxygen. It's
29:23
Speaker 1: simply just can't go any higher than that. Pretty cool.
29:26
Speaker 1: That was Brandon in Pittsburgh. Thanks Brandon. All right, this
29:29
Speaker 1: one is unknown, and I don't know if it was
29:31
Speaker 1: intentionally unknown or not. I can't remember, but if you
29:33
Speaker 1: wrote this email, thank you and I'm sorry that didn't
29:36
Speaker 1: get your name. Guys. I used to work as a
29:38
Speaker 1: ramp agent in airport and oireland where Air Force one
29:42
Speaker 1: would frequently stop to refuel. I held security clearance to
29:45
Speaker 1: service the plane and had the privilege of doing so
29:48
Speaker 1: on four or five occasions. First, a small correction from
29:52
Speaker 1: the podcast. The Marine one helicopter is not a Chinook.
29:56
Speaker 1: It is either a Seeking or a black Hawk, depending
29:58
Speaker 1: on the location. Where'd you get the resign? I thought
30:03
Speaker 1: the ones with two two propellers or two um front
30:07
Speaker 1: and back? I thought, are you sure? Well? We got
30:13
Speaker 1: a lot of corrections on that um. So that's what
30:16
Speaker 1: he says. First, the black Hawk can be disassembled to
30:20
Speaker 1: fit inside the C seventeen cargo plane that a company's
30:24
Speaker 1: Air Force one, which we got that wrong. But I
30:26
Speaker 1: think you're going to take care of that. Now for
30:28
Speaker 1: the fun details. When the aircraft is on the ground,
30:31
Speaker 1: a camera deploys from underneath the plane between the main
30:34
Speaker 1: landing gear and offers a panoramic view of all ground activity.
30:38
Speaker 1: There are also static pinhole cameras located at regular intervals
30:42
Speaker 1: along both sides of the main fuselage and then the
30:44
Speaker 1: nose landing gear. These are only noticeable if you're standing
30:48
Speaker 1: beside one of them. Once I tried to count them
30:50
Speaker 1: all but quickly lost count. That's how many of there are.
30:53
Speaker 1: The same is true for the large number of antenna
30:56
Speaker 1: communication aerials, et cetera, which run the full length at
31:00
Speaker 1: the top of the aircraft. Next some security details. When
31:04
Speaker 1: the president is making a multi country trip, there will
31:07
Speaker 1: be identical cars, limos, and secret service detachments, etcetera. Simultaneously
31:12
Speaker 1: positioned at each location. This ensures everything is in place
31:16
Speaker 1: at every destination. When the airplane is at any foreign airport,
31:20
Speaker 1: hard telephone line is run from the main terminal to
31:23
Speaker 1: the plane in the event of any wireless connectivity issues,
31:27
Speaker 1: and whenever, both air Force one and its twin sister.
31:30
Speaker 1: Both on the ground. They always park opposite each other,
31:33
Speaker 1: tail to tail, so both can taxi and take off
31:36
Speaker 1: immediately without any interference at a moment's notice. Pretty cool,
31:42
Speaker 1: And then you're gonna bring it home here, so check
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Speaker 1: them bringing it home with one from Bill m u
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Speaker 1: a s F retired Charleston, South Carolina, the Air Force.
31:50
Speaker 1: Really here's a mechanic. Did not know that. I'm a
31:52
Speaker 1: retired U. S. Air Force lobmaster who flew as a
31:55
Speaker 1: crew member on C seventeens and C five's during many
31:58
Speaker 1: many presidential support a missions. During the Air Force one podcast,
32:02
Speaker 1: you mentioned the President's limos being carried by C one fort.
32:06
Speaker 1: While that was once a true statement, it hasn't been
32:09
Speaker 1: that way for a number of years. So we need
32:10
Speaker 1: to go update the The C one one fleet has
32:14
Speaker 1: been decommissioned and sent to the bone yard. The C
32:17
Speaker 1: seventeen is the main airlifter used to carry the limos,
32:20
Speaker 1: communication package, marine helicopters, not chinooks though friend and military
32:26
Speaker 1: or and myriad of other stuff and personnel used debt
32:30
Speaker 1: the president's destination. I missed my military days and sam
32:33
Speaker 1: missions were certainly a highlight of my career, as I
32:35
Speaker 1: accrued over eighty five thousand flying hours during twenty one years.
32:40
Speaker 1: So this guy's he knows what he's talking about. What
32:42
Speaker 1: was his Name's Bill M from Charleston, South Carolina. Yeah,
32:45
Speaker 1: And I want to point out Bill also had a
32:47
Speaker 1: number of very nice things to say about the show,
32:49
Speaker 1: but since it was so long with the listener mail
32:52
Speaker 1: that Dad cut a lot of that out. But thank
32:53
Speaker 1: you very much, Bill, He was very kind of you.
32:55
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33:01
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33:05
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33:21
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33:24
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33:28
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