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Mac & Bone Show - Matt Schick Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Matt Schick, ESPN. And I love listening to him and,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Roddy Jones. They do a good job, too, Boney,
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  Speaker 1: on the College Sports Radio as well. And he joins
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  Speaker 1: us here on the Mac and Bone Show. Matt Schick,
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  Speaker 1: proud Charlotte resident as well. Matt, do your young ones
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  Speaker 1: like the Hornets at all? Have y'all got into Hornets
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  Speaker 1: basketball in Charlotte?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, we're all in. And it might've been because, you know,
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  Speaker 2: their daddy put their Christmas budget on them making the
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  Speaker 2: playoffs on a bet last year.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we were, yeah, we were, we were, we
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  Speaker 2: didn't hedge. So they, you know, it wasn't a Merry Christmas,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, I was talking to my oldest last night.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, it was a good win. He's like,
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  Speaker 2: They're just not as exciting. I said, you know what?
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  Speaker 3: Without LaMelo, you're not going to be as exciting, but
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  Speaker 3: you'd be a little more dependable, a.
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  Speaker 2: Little more disciplined, maybe a little more balanced and predictable.
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  Speaker 2: There you go. That's a good thing.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe you lose some entertainment play, but gain some stability.
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  Speaker 3: It's fun to watch.
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  Speaker 1: Why do I think? And you got to also point
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  Speaker 1: out Kobe and Khan not there yet. You know, that's
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  Speaker 1: going to obviously change that offense. But that's good, Dad.
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  Speaker 1: That's good parenting right there. How many dads in Charlotte
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  Speaker 1: do y'all think are telling their kids that are so
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  Speaker 1: upset that the fun lamello's not there? I'm telling you
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  Speaker 1: right now, though, they're going to protect the basketball. They're
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  Speaker 1: going to take better shots, son.
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  Speaker 3: Like boring.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. Exactly.
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  Speaker 4: Matt, the way it's playing out right now in the
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  Speaker 4: college football world with the SEC beating the heck out
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  Speaker 4: of each other, the Big Ten is now we're trying
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  Speaker 4: to figure out how many national title contenders they have
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  Speaker 4: with the Julian Sane injury. How much right now does
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  Speaker 4: Miami have a chance to to win the national title
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  Speaker 4: out of the ACC?
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  Speaker 2: Well, they're going to be the lone representative unless there's
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  Speaker 2: an upset in the ACC championship game. So that's what
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  Speaker 2: that feels like right now. But I think they've got
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  Speaker 2: enough offensively. I think the Florida State game, you kind
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  Speaker 2: of throw some of that out the window because of
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  Speaker 2: the rivalry. You know, this is a team that will
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  Speaker 2: finish at least 11-1 and have a great shot at
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  Speaker 2: being the number one overall seed when they win the
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  Speaker 2: ACC championship. So, you know, we start the season going,
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  Speaker 2: how many teams can win?
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  Speaker 3: And, ah, maybe six, seven, eight, nine.
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  Speaker 2: You could probably go like 13 or 14 deep right
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  Speaker 2: now with how much parity there is in college football,
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  Speaker 2: which might be one of the benefits once we get
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  Speaker 2: to that 2014 playoff.
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  Speaker 1: Matt, let me follow up with what you said there first, though.
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  Speaker 1: You said pretty confidently, hey, Miami's going to be the
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  Speaker 1: only ACC team in the playoff. And listen, speaking of betting, wagering,
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't bet against you, but I am curious. We
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of Deacons fans that are loving this
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  Speaker 1: football team, and they seem to get better every week.
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  Speaker 1: Like that Cal spot, we thought that was a scary
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  Speaker 1: spot for them. Late night at Cal, they went up
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  Speaker 1: there and jumped up 34-0.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like, could you see them getting in the mix? I
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  Speaker 1: guess the problem is if they lose to Miami, even
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  Speaker 1: if it's a field goal game and they have beat everybody,
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  Speaker 1: but Miami, I guess there's not enough meat on the
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  Speaker 1: bone in terms of who they beat though.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Is that the problem?
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  Speaker 2: There's not enough. There's not enough meat on the bone,
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  Speaker 2: but it's also about the equity that they have not
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  Speaker 2: built up over the last few years. They're not a brand.
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  Speaker 2: You look at the wake forest helmet. There's nothing sexy
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  Speaker 2: about the, about the program. And there, yeah, they won
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  Speaker 2: nine games last year, but they, you think about what
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  Speaker 2: it takes to move up in this world. Like Vanderbilt
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  Speaker 2: went 10-2 last year. They weren't getting in at 10-2
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  Speaker 2: because they don't have a Longhorn sticker on the helmet.
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  Speaker 2: So when you look at Wake Forest, I called their
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  Speaker 2: opener against Akron. I thought they had a ton of talent.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think they'd be where they are right now.
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  Speaker 2: But there's a ton to like about this. They'll go
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  Speaker 2: to SMU next month, and that game will likely be
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  Speaker 2: a playoff elimination game. The question is, in order to
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  Speaker 2: get into the playoff, you're going to have to get
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  Speaker 2: the AQ, which means you're going to have to likely
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  Speaker 2: beat Miami. And they hung with Miami. The good news
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  Speaker 2: is they're not going to be scared of them if
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  Speaker 2: they play them. I think Jake Dickard is probably the best,
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  Speaker 2: probably outside the top big names, the best coach in
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  Speaker 2: the country in terms of what he does, getting less
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  Speaker 2: with more. And I hate to say it for Wake fans,
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  Speaker 2: but I can't wait to see if he gets an
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  Speaker 2: opportunity to do more with more.
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  Speaker 4: Matt, the never-ending rollercoaster ride for the Gamecocks enters an
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  Speaker 4: upswing week against Tennessee at home this week. Tennessee off
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  Speaker 4: the big win at home against Bama. When you look
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  Speaker 4: at this Gamecocks team, and this might be the hardest
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  Speaker 4: question ever, what are you expecting here the rest.
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  Speaker 2: Of the way?
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  Speaker 4: Is it more of what we saw early, or are
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  Speaker 4: they starting to turn the corner where they can have
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  Speaker 4: a pretty good season here?
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  Speaker 2: Well, the good news is outside of their game with Georgia,
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  Speaker 2: their toughest part of their schedule is behind them, and
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  Speaker 2: thankfully they get Tennessee at home. But if you look
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  Speaker 2: at what's happened in the SEC, for some reason they
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  Speaker 2: can't handle tough games and then winning another game after that.
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  Speaker 2: Kentucky's the only one that's done that. They won three
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  Speaker 2: consecutive challenging games, including last week at Oklahoma, if you
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  Speaker 2: want to call that challenging. But I look at this
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  Speaker 2: one with South Carolina– off of the bye, taking on Tennessee.
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  Speaker 3: With an emotional win. Now they have to go to Columbia.
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  Speaker 2: The SEC wheel of death tells me that South Carolina
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  Speaker 2: is going to win this game. They certainly have enough talent.
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  Speaker 2: We saw that at Gainesville. And then you'll go to Oklahoma,
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  Speaker 2: which is dead man walking. You'll host Texas A & M,
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  Speaker 2: which doesn't know how to play football anymore. You'll go
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  Speaker 2: to Arkansas, which will punt on fourth down at midfield.
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  Speaker 2: And then you host Georgia. So by the time you
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  Speaker 2: get to the last couple of games, you're going to
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  Speaker 2: have an opportunity to make some noise. No, they're not
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  Speaker 2: going to make the playoff, but they have a good
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  Speaker 2: opportunity to get to eight wins, which after their start
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  Speaker 2: would be admirable.
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  Speaker 4: A Fox show that only lasts like one episode because
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  Speaker 4: they realize that it's not a good thing.
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  Speaker 3: The pilot didn't get picked up.
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  Speaker 1: Matt Schick.
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  Speaker 4: Ken Jeong is one of the guest judges.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, definitely.
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  Speaker 2: Clearly.
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  Speaker 1: Matt Schick with us, ESPN, College Sports Radio, hanging out
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  Speaker 1: with us, talking college football. You mentioned the wheel of death, right?
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  Speaker 1: And we said the same thing yesterday. We have people
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  Speaker 1: texting in about it right now. It just kind of
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  Speaker 1: feels like, okay, Tennessee had the big win. South Carolina's
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  Speaker 1: winning this game and they were made favorites in Vegas
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  Speaker 1: as well. One game where I think one team I
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  Speaker 1: think could buck the trend is Ole Miss against Texas.
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  Speaker 1: This is a wheel of death would say, oh, Texas
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  Speaker 1: is going to bounce back. And Ole Miss has had
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  Speaker 1: too much prosperity with the two blowout wins. But I
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  Speaker 1: think Ole Miss is legit and they can fight the
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  Speaker 1: wheel of death. What do you think about that?
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  Speaker 2: I think they're the second best team in the SEC.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're kind of waving their hands going, remember
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  Speaker 2: us guys? Remember we're the team that took down LSU?
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  Speaker 3: And then, yeah, I got blasted the next week against Florida.
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  Speaker 2: But that's what's happening to everybody after they get big wins. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they outscored Vanderbilt and Missouri 83-20 in their
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  Speaker 2: next two games. They've beaten LSU. That win over Missouri
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  Speaker 2: is going to carry a lot of weight. They're averaging
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  Speaker 2: 38 points a game. Defensively, stopping the run, those are
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  Speaker 2: going to be potential questions. But I think you're getting
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  Speaker 2: Texas at the perfect time. I mean, they're splitting the
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  Speaker 2: first-team reps between Arch Manning and K.J.
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  Speaker 3: Lacy.
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  Speaker 2: They don't know what they're doing offensively. They can't run
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  Speaker 2: the football. They haven't been able to run the football
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  Speaker 2: since they joined the SEC. And so if you're an
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  Speaker 2: Ole Miss fan, I think you're liking the way this
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  Speaker 2: shapes up.
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  Speaker 3: You've got Auburn after that.
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  Speaker 2: Um, you've got Georgia, which would have title game implications.
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  Speaker 2: You could probably afford to lose that one, but then
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  Speaker 2: you're at Oklahoma home against Mississippi state. I mean, this
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  Speaker 2: is shaping up to be a 10 and two playoff team,
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  Speaker 2: which I did not anticipate going in.
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  Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on the 2014 playoff in the
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  Speaker 4: future and the, the impact that'll have on the regular season,
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  Speaker 4: which has been the, the big debate in the sport
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  Speaker 4: this week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no question that when you expand to 24,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to have some games that maybe don't have
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  Speaker 2: the do-or-die mentality. Oh, if we lose this second game,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to be out. But I think what we
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  Speaker 2: saw with five of the top seven teams losing is
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  Speaker 2: that you're going to just cast a wider net for
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  Speaker 2: significant games for more programs.
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  Speaker 3: I think we.
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  Speaker 2: we get into this thing about there's haves and have-nots,
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  Speaker 2: and then we have an opportunity here for more teams
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  Speaker 2: to gain access to the championship, and we complain that
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  Speaker 2: too many teams have a chance. I just think we're
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  Speaker 2: going to have to expand our horizons a little bit
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  Speaker 2: about what's acceptable as a successful season. And when we
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  Speaker 2: get to this point of going 8-4, that's not acceptable,
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  Speaker 2: and making the playoffs not acceptable, that's a problem that
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  Speaker 2: a lot of programs, probably 85% of college football programs,
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  Speaker 2: would love to have in terms of playing for the
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  Speaker 2: national title. And I think the thing that I say
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  Speaker 2: to all of those that are skeptics, and I, again,
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  Speaker 2: would I rather stay at 12? Yes, but I'm starting
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  Speaker 2: to buy into 24. One of the reasons guys is
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  Speaker 2: we only play 12 games. You know, we could talk
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  Speaker 2: about all the stakes that might get lost, but we
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  Speaker 2: only play a three month long regular season. This isn't
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  Speaker 2: five months of 30 plus games in college basketball. We're
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  Speaker 2: only playing 12. People still show up to the games.
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  Speaker 2: And frankly, a team like South Carolina would still have hope,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a bunch of teams would at this point.
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  Speaker 2: And I think the illusion of hope in a sport
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  Speaker 2: where it takes a ton of investment to be relevant,
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  Speaker 2: I think is important, especially with bowl games going away.
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  Speaker 1: All right, real quick. We got like a minute and
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you're about done talking with us, Matt, at
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  Speaker 1: this point too.
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  Speaker 4: Hanging the fight, Matt.
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  Speaker 1: The heels. Like I got, we're bouncing all around. I
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  Speaker 1: gotta talk about the heels bill belichick's got him at
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  Speaker 1: four and two there's seven point favorites or so against
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  Speaker 1: syracuse saturday night they could get to five and two
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  Speaker 1: like we were all over him for a lot of
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  Speaker 1: good reasons there's some coaching up going on there's some
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  Speaker 1: progress right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nothing flashy about them, but they're becoming increasingly respectable,
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  Speaker 2: which is, I think, more than you could say from
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  Speaker 2: last season. It's not just they're winning, it's how they're winning.
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  Speaker 2: They're finding ways to close out tight games, something that
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  Speaker 2: was missing a year ago. I mean, you surrender a
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  Speaker 2: big lead against Duke, but you hold on to win that.
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  Speaker 2: So you do wonder if it's just... modest improvement from
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  Speaker 2: a low starting point from last year. But if you're
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  Speaker 2: a North Carolina fan, I think you're kind of in
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  Speaker 2: a glass case of emotion here because I thought you
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  Speaker 2: were going to be done with this whole thing after
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  Speaker 2: this year. But maybe Bill Belichick is going to be
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  Speaker 2: an answer enough to keep you relevant for the next
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  Speaker 2: couple of years. I don't know the answer to that,
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  Speaker 2: but you can't argue with the fact they've gotten better.
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  Speaker 2: And perhaps he's one you know, half dozen Superbowls for
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  Speaker 2: a reason.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Matt, you are the man. Somebody texted in,
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  Speaker 1: I think it was her guy, bagel guy and said,
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  Speaker 1: Matt strikes me as a guy that has a pair
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  Speaker 1: of moose antlers that he wears to Hornets games.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, but I was thinking of this idea, guys.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe I'll bounce this off you.
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  Speaker 2: I think that Charlotte Orange should sell moose antler antennas
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  Speaker 2: for Channel 64. I don't know if you guys have
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  Speaker 2: thought about that, but I think that would be a
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  Speaker 2: really good idea.
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  Speaker 4: That is insane that you and I had the same idea.
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  Speaker 1: For a second, I was going to be so excited
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  Speaker 1: about it that you and him had the same idea,
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  Speaker 1: and then I realized what just happened there.
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  Speaker 4: Am I being mocked?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I'll figure it out later.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Matt, be good, brother.
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  Speaker 2: Take it easy, man.