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#0 - Matt Blanco - Where Ayahuasca meets Bitcoin · Walking with Jaguars

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Okay, welcome everyone to the first episode of
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the Walking with Jaguars podcast. I'm your host,
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Matt Blanco. And this is the podcast where we
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explore everything mysticism, magic, Bitcoin,
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human experience, freedom, and all that good
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stuff. And in the first episode, I kind of want
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to just like lay down this seed. of who I am
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right now. And also like, uh, my story and, uh,
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my experiences up until this point, just as,
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uh, I can anchor, um, for the podcast moving
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forward. And, you know, I plan to have guests
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on and this episode zero really just feels like
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it's going to act as, as my story so that when
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people, you know, are 50 podcasts, a hundred
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podcasts, hopefully a thousand podcasts deep.
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We can all come back in and see the beginning
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and understand basically the seed of this mission.
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So the reason I'm starting this podcast is I've
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lived quite an interesting life, particularly
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over the last seven years. And I've found myself
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in places that I never thought possible. And
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I know in the beginning of my healing, awakening
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kind of journey that finding the signal through
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all the noise is so difficult. It's so hard to
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find the way forward. And one of my mentors,
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he did a podcast with a man named Aisin on Instagram,
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and they called it The Narrow Path. And that
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just really resonated with me because it is such
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a narrow path, especially once you begin to understand
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how the world works and how we're meant to navigate
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and all this good stuff. So I guess to start
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it off, there's this quote, and I don't know
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who said it, but it is no measure of health to
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be well adapted to a sick society. And that's
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something that resonates with me at such a deep
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level. And hopefully a lot of the listeners too,
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that you get to a certain level of consciousness
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and you begin to see how the external world and
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how culture has started to grow is so against
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our human nature. And it's so easy to get wrapped
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up in all the bullshit. So I am a completely
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ordinary man who has just been blessed with extraordinary
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teachers. And this is my story. So I grew up
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in Sydney in a very atheist family. And there
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was no mention of spirit or anything, you know,
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magical or anything anti -government, may we
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say. Something never sat well with me where I
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would look around at all the possibilities for
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my life and all the careers I could have and
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even the people I was interacting with and nothing
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just seemed to quite click. Nothing seemed to
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fit. I felt like a black sheep to some degree.
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And I was having all of these downloads, you
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know, and like through my teens, I had like crazy
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insomnia and like all this stuff was coming through.
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And finding a way to navigate in the world that
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I was given and in the culture that I was given
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didn't align with who I was and who I wanted
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to be. So at first I was starting to get these
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downloads of like, maybe there's something more
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than what meets the eye. And although I may not
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agree with this view anymore, the idea of like,
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you know, we're monkeys on a earth that's flicking
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through space with a sun and all of this. It's
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extraordinary. Life itself is extraordinary.
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And the opportunity to experience life is extraordinary,
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but it just became normal. It was like, no one
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talks about this. It just is, you know, we all
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just like get along with it. And what I was starting
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to like pick up of what this reality was, was
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so different. And from the atheistic point of
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view, I went to university to study quantum mechanics
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because I was like, surely. There's something
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in academia that aligns with this intuition that's
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inside of me. And there was pieces, there was
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breadcrumbs, but it was something that academically
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didn't make sense. Like mathematically, to some
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degree, it didn't make sense. But an example
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of this would be in classical physics, we say
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reality is real and we observe it. Whereas in
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quantum mechanics, we say the observation, the
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participation of the observer is required to
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create reality in some form. And you can see
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this in the double slit experiment. Feel free
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to look it up on YouTube if this is something
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that you've never heard of. And very quickly,
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I was like, okay, there's definitely something
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more going on here. And when I was like 18, I
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was really... wrestling with this idea of meaning
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and purpose like there is something i'm meant
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to do in this life but i can't quite work out
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what it is and i had this conversation with my
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father one day i was like i feel like i have
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a purpose and very quickly it was just like response
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was like you know you just gotta live just like
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get a job just do the thing you know and it kind
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of like took took it took a hold on me you know
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this like program of this conditioning uh even
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though it didn't feel right and when i was 18
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i did lsd for the first time and it was finally
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like oh okay this like layer of conditioning
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of just like living in the mind finally lifted
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and for the first time in my life i feel like
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i could see and i remember thinking back then
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like I don't know what this is, but I want to
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do this. And there was no context for it. We're
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talking, this is 2015. So although psychedelics
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are kind of like becoming mainstream now, they
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were still very taboo back then. Like the consensus
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was, you know, these plant medicines fry your
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brain. But when this conditioning lifted, it
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gave me choice. That I'd never experienced before
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where it was like, oh, I can just, you know,
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change friend groups, change friends, change
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my relationship, change my career, change the
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music I listen to, change the books that I read,
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change the way I navigate life in a whole. And
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I'd never experienced that before because there
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was always so many shoulds, the shoulds of society,
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the shoulds of my parents, the shoulds of the
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culture, the shoulds of my friends. And to some
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degree, like. Everyone experiences this and they're
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like the invisible leashes that pull us through
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life. And everyone gets to the point where they're
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like enough is enough, I think. I mean, not everyone,
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but like a lot of people. And sometimes that
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happens when you're 18, I guess in my case, or
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maybe 25, 30, 40, 50, 60. But that opportunity
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is always there. To make that pivot from running
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on autopilot and running on what everyone else
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says versus running on who you are at your deepest
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core and the choices that you want to make and
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the future possibilities you want to open for
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yourself. So after that first LSD experience,
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things changed in my life very quickly, you know,
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and I started to realize that what I had experienced
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in that ceremony of sorts. had nothing to do
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with what I'd been told, but me just experiencing.
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And then from that point onwards, I was like,
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okay, I want to change the way I show up. I want
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to be a more joyous person. You know, I want
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to tell my family I love them all. I want to
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appreciate nature more. I want to change the
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music I listen to. And then also like finding
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Eastern philosophy. And looking into things like
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meditation and yoga and expanding the horizons
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of what was laid out for me. And at that time,
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funny enough, now it seems almost crazy because
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Joe Rogan's just like so big. But it was really
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finding him talking about psilocybin in a way
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that was drastically different than everyone
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else that I was like, okay, he gets it. He understands
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that he's had these experiences and this thing
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can change the world. So not long after that,
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there was a podcast with Joe Rogan and Graham
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Hancock. And Graham Hancock was talking about
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ancient civilizations and that humanity may have
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the story wrong. And when we look at history,
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we're looking at his story. Just this victor,
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this like the story of culture versus the truth.
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And he had a TED talk about ayahuasca. And when
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I listened to that, it was immediate. Like as
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soon as he said the word ayahuasca, boom, like
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all the hair on my body stood up. And I just
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felt this like great realignment of my life where.
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very quickly all these ideas of like oh this
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career all this relationship that all just dissolved
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and it was like the north star is ayahuasca now
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and i didn't know why i didn't have the the rational
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understanding of why but i just knew it so deeply
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in my soul that this was something that was going
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to lead me in the right direction and then pursuing
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this idea of like what is ayahuasca what are
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they talking about what are these like you know
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are these segments of indigenous wisdom throughout
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the world and every time i introduced myself
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to indigenous ways of thinking there was even
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more coherence in a world view and of the human
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experience and when we when i was looking into
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ayahuasca it's a combination of the ayahuasca
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vine and the chacruna plant but it has to be
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created in a certain way and harvested and brewed
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to create this this medicine and when they asked
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the natives how did you find the combination
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they would say the plants told us from the world
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view that i had at that point in time plants
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and nature to some degree were just a backdrop
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to what life was. And now this is drastically
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inversed where like nature is reality and everything
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else is some kind of constructed matrix of sorts.
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But when I heard that the plants told them, I
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immediately was like, okay, there's something
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happening in this world, in this reality that
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I have not tapped into that I'm really starting
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to believe. There is truth there. And this was
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also like, you know, you always need data to
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create frameworks. And like working with psilocybin,
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it's like this thing just comes out of the ground.
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And it just happens to have all the right chemical
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structures that create this experience in the
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human brain. And you can be like, okay, coincidence,
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coincidence, coincidence. But there comes a point
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where the data begins to build up so drastically
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that it's like, okay, no, this is like actually
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coherence, not coincidence. So North Star was
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just going to the jungle to experience ayahuasca.
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So I finished university and I graduated with
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my physics degree, which is now. fantastic piece
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of paper somewhere in my parents cupboard um
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and that's kind of when like my life actually
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started and that's like the life that i chose
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entirely versus like having pieces of choices
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so i flew to south america and within three days
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of landing there i met my now fiance who will
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soon be my wife Who is just the greatest gift
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and just had this cascade of blessings and learnings.
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The growth that I experienced was so rapid. And
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there was like lots of initiations to some degree
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along my path. And so like I was in South America
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and I didn't have any connections of like where
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to go. drink ayahuasca and then also like i had
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hesitancy to find something online because there's
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so much like westernization of of culture in
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general especially when we're talking about the
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indigenous where like these are not savvy business
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people but people want to experience this so
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the westerners like orchestrate these experiences
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in this kind of twisted way um so i just set
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out for a year -long trip across south america
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And I basically went from the Caribbean coast
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of Colombia all the way down to Chile by the
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end over the span of nine months. And I summited,
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you know, 5 ,000 -meter mountains. I, like, connected
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with a lot of interesting people, different cultures
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too. One of the peak ones was I... was basically
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just uh in hostels and every time i'd meet someone
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who was relatively interesting i'd just be like
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what's the coolest thing you've done and i was
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really seeking these like peak experiences at
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that point in my life and this woman was like
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i worked in a sanctuary in bolivia walking jaguars
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on leashes and instantly i was like this is something
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that i have to go and do so i was in bolivia
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In the middle of the jungle, no power, no running
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water, sleeping on a straw bed. And on the first
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day, they hand this contract to me about like
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my volunteering work there. And the contract
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basically said like, you know, you are completely
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responsible for everything that happens. Even
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if something goes wrong, we're not responsible
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for like medical attention and all of this stuff.
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And I was like, okay, I'm here now. I just like
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have to do it, sign the paper, hand it over.
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And they basically take me straight out to see
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the Jaguar that I'd be working with for the next
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three months. And we're walking out there and
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I'm actually starting to get nervous. You know,
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this like egotistical young man being like, I
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could fucking do anything, really started to
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set in being like, oh, can I actually do this?
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And I asked the guide who was training me initially,
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like, what do I do if the Jaguar turns on me?
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And he said, you stick your left hand in her
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mouth. And I was like, okay, why would that be
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the thing to do? He goes, well, it's better she
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takes your hand than she bites your organs. And
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I was like, okay, we're in for it now. You know,
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we get out there and she hears us coming and
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she's right up against the fence. Her eyes are
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like super wide, you know, new person trying
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to work out what's going on. And she's in a pen
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that's the size of a football field out in the
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middle of the jungle. She's a 45 minute hike
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through like virgin Amazon rainforest to get
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to her. And it's all fully overgrown inside the
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pen. That was like the beginning of this like
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amazing era of like really living in the jungle
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and like connecting with these animals. And I
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guess just for some context, like what this sanctuary
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was, it was all animals that were either taken
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off the black market or they were found injured
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and they were there for rehabilitation reasons.
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So. Yeah, we'd go out into the jungle. I'd spend
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five hours a day with the jaguars. I would put
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them on leashes and I would hike through the
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jungle. And it was just unbelievable. And that
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is where the name of this podcast comes from,
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Walking with Jaguars. And although that is like
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the seed of the idea was having this experience
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with the jaguars. The name, what it really represents
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to me is all these brilliant teachers that I've
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had along the way. And these teachers, they're
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always powerful individuals, you know, like different
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in stature, different in age, different in all
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these things. But the way that they like pull
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you through life, you know, it's like the spirit
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of the Jaguar. And I had one mentor in particular.
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And one day he said to me, like, I'm at the front
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and I have the machete and I'm swinging through
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the jungle. And like you as the apprentice, your
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role, this is all figuratively, your role is
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like to tell me if there's a snake coming or
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there's a jaguar or there's like, you know, something
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out there that's going to get me or like a snake
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if it bites me. And when the day comes that like
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I fall, it's your job to pick up this machete
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and keep swinging and guide the people behind
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you. um and like that's the spirit of the jaguar
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and you know that's the name walking with jaguars
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it's like these people who navigate life in an
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exceptional way like these are my teachers um
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so i'm down in the jungle i'm trying i'm still
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trying to find ayahuasca and i'm meeting all
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these interesting people and these connections
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and i'm i'm i'm searching but i'm not like i'm
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not i'm seeking but i'm not gonna like take this
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experience somehow i knew that i've been called
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and she will find me and then one day i'm just
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in a hostel and this person's like hey this is
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where you should go they do like they serve really
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good medicine there this is where i do my diet
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and at that point i was like i have no idea what
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you're talking about but i trust you so i trust
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that this is the right place to go so i connect
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with the maestro out in the jungle and he's Shipibo
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and speaks relatively broken Spanish because
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he speaks Shipibo and I speak virtually no Spanish
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at this point. So I organize Google Translate
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to go out and see him. So I fly to Iquitos, which
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is the largest city. in the world not accessible
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by road it's literally in the middle of the jungle
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if you look at it on a map and the whole city
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is like half a million people out there basically
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like living in the jungle turning into sprawling
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somewhat decrepit city uh it seems to have improved
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a lot over the last six years with all the ayahuasca
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tourism But I go out there, so I'm 22 at this
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point. I go out to the jungle. I take a tuk -tuk
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to the edge of town. I get on a boat. We go three
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hours upriver, and then I get out of the boat,
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and then I hike based on instructions that were
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sent to me on Facebook Messenger how to get to
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the sanctuary. So I hike in an hour, and I land
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there. And I'm like, okay, this is the moment.
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I've been preparing for this for... we're coming
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on four years now and i get out there and i have
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no idea what's going on i have no context or
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understanding of like how the ceremonies take
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place uh what i'm meant to be doing where i'm
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meant to be going and i basically get there and
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they're just like gringo go here gringo go there
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you know no electricity no water no wi -fi like
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you know bathroom is just a hole and uh that
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was the the first time i like interacted with
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that medicine and now ayahuasca like she interacts
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with everyone differently and i'd made this journey
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out there and i did my first four ceremonies
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and although like some visions were opening and
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some things were happening and there was like
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some purging happening It didn't like, it wasn't
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this like ultra profound experience. And I was
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like, man, I just like, I don't know what's going
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on here. You know, I really thought this was
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the thing. And after the four day ceremony, I
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left still with basically no understanding of
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like the culture or what any of it means. I was
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just fasting in a hut during the days and they'd
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come and grab me and take me into the Moloka
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in the evenings. Um, and I left being like, I
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have no idea if I'll be back. Like this was such
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an arduous journey, like to get from Sydney to
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the middle of the jungle out four hours outside
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of Iquitos is like, it's literally the other
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side of the planet. And so I left there, I continued
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my journey and it just, although there was like
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things connecting and like spirit was happening
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and these learnings were happening, I was so
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sure it was the thing and it just did not come
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together. So, yeah, back to traveling. And then
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I was so in love with Emily at this point. And
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she'd gone back to Canada months ago. And I was
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pretty much done in South America. Like after
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living in the jungle for three months, I just
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had like, you know, I'd lost like a bunch of
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weight. I had like mold growing all over me because
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it was the middle of the wet season. So we were
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like waist deep in the Amazon basin. basically
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all day and uh i was ready to leave south america
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so i told emily ham flying to canada uh let's
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like live a ski bump kind of life and she was
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like don't come like moving to bc in the middle
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of winter to live in a car is a terrible idea
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and i did not want to go home to australia like
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it felt like there was nothing left for me there
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so Just full send went to Canada. We bought a
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car for like four grand. And then, you know,
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it was decked out with like a bed in the back
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and like a kitchenette. And we ended up living
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in this like ashram in, in Nelson. And that's
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where I went, met like one of my first, like
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really fantastic teachers. His name was John
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Scott. And just. absolutely epic dude he he was
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probably 60 when i met him and he'd lived in
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an ashram for five years and he was just the
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most disciplined person i'd ever met where his
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way of mastering consciousness was like it was
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just discipline and just like ways to describe
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it i guess one day he like uh he took the group
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of us that were living there and we went and
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did like a shamanic breath work so you're just
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breathing like hardcore for an hour you know
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and your body starts to actually seize up you
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get this thing called tetany Where you'd have
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like claw hands and it's so painful, but to some
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degree it's also visionary and it's like quite
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profound. And when the experience was over, like
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we were talking to him and like decompressing
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and everything. And he kind of just subtly goes,
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yeah, like my teacher showed me this. And then
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I just did it every day for a year. Didn't miss
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a day. It was such an intense experience. Like
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how often do we in life say we're going to do
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something and then do it for a couple of days
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or a week, or maybe even a month when we're like
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super disciplined, but to do something that's
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like kind of that extreme, that discipline for
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that amount of time, it's just like, okay, wow.
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Like it's really that discipline is there. And
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like another example is, is he'd do this breath
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work out in the, uh, like on the side of the
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mountain, welcoming the sunrise every day. And
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same thing again, it was like an hour long routine.
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And he hadn't missed a day in 35 years. He was
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such a fantastic teacher for me. But while I
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was there, I just knew like, you know, this is
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not my path. like i understand and i respect
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it and i can see the level of consciousness like
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he's able to to hold on a day -to -day basis
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but this is just not mine and the place was also
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vegan not that john was vegan but the place was
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vegan because there was a bunch of kind of hippie
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people around and i just couldn't do it my body
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was breaking down so i would go and on sundays
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I'd like go into town and then just eat a whole
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rotisserie chicken in the car park just to kind
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of recharge and like get all my protein. But
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through that period, I was really like trying
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to work out why I am the way I am and why I do
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the things the way I do. And me and I was living
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there with Emily and we decided that if we're
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going to eat meat, we got to learn how to like,
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you know, raise cattle and slaughter cattle and
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be part of the process and see that. So we went
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on to this app Workaway and we typed in like
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cattle ranch husbandry meditation or something.
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And this place popped up and it was the only
28:01
one. And instantly I was like, this is the place.
28:06
I didn't know why. Like this glow inside of me
28:10
was just like, this is the place. So we reach
28:12
out to this person. We get in contact with her
28:15
and we have this like maybe like, you know, half
28:19
hour, 45 minute long conversation like, oh, you
28:22
know, what's your experience working on farms
28:25
and ranches? I know you're a good fit. And this
28:27
is like the contract that we're kind of going
28:29
to, you know, work forward on. And then right
28:32
at the very end of the conversation, she said
28:35
like, hey, I looked in your profile and I saw
28:36
that you've both been to South America. We were
28:40
like, yeah. And she was like, have you heard
28:42
of ayahuasca? we were like yeah she was like
28:46
have you done ayahuasca we were like yeah and
28:49
she was like okay great um we also run ayahuasca
28:55
ceremonies here and it was like divine like the
29:02
divine alignment of how this thing happened you
29:05
know so we left the ashram we moved up with her
29:08
and we lived there for just over a year and that
29:12
was That was my next teacher. You know, she was
29:15
just absolutely incredible. She's still like,
29:17
you know, my spiritual mama to this day. And
29:21
this was the first time where it was like the
29:24
shamans that we're working with were really well
29:28
trained and with the natives, you know, and they
29:32
would come up and they would run the ceremonies
29:34
on the land and the ceremonies were super tight,
29:38
like how they were run. the expansion of consciousness
29:43
really begun to happen at this point and like
29:46
the profound visions and then also like being
29:48
able to speak English and decompress and understand
29:52
like how all of this stuff works. And I guess
29:57
it's like somewhat of a tangent just to describe
29:59
like the experience of ayahuasca if it's not
30:02
something that people have experienced themselves.
30:06
We look at something like a mushroom experience.
30:12
right it's a profound experience in its own right
30:15
and the thing is is that in the west right now
30:20
we have all the medicines or access to all the
30:24
medicines basically but we don't have any of
30:27
the teachers whereas like when you look in indigenous
30:30
settings there was always the medicine man there
30:32
was always the shaman who like came from a lineage
30:35
or who apprenticed for like many years of like
30:37
how to use these things and when you're at home
30:41
trying to create these profound ceremonies you
30:45
only know so much you know whereas like when
30:48
we look at say the family that i work with in
30:51
in the world of ayahuasca they're an unbroken
30:55
native lineage that goes back to the incas so
31:02
we're talking thousands of years And over the
31:06
span of thousands of years, they've fine -tuned,
31:09
they've trialed and tested everything you could
31:14
possibly imagine to make the most, the single
31:18
most profound experience of your life. And...
31:25
through these like ceremonies that I was partaking
31:28
in, it was like, I was just, it was like the
31:29
great remembering, remembering who I am, like
31:32
my purpose, my soul, what I was placed on this
31:35
world to do, where I should be putting my attention,
31:37
where I need to change certain things, the things
31:40
I need to clear, the things that I'm holding
31:42
onto that I no longer want to, they no longer
31:44
serve me, you know, cutting these like invisible
31:47
leashes off to be free in my spirit, you know,
31:51
and in the way that I show up in the world. And
31:55
then through this process, like a lot of people
31:59
drink ayahuasca, right? It's like, it's not something
32:03
that is super small anymore. You know, there's
32:09
like big celebrities on big podcasts talking
32:11
about ayahuasca, this, that. But ayahuasca itself
32:14
is like, it's just the centerpiece of this entire
32:17
medical system that the Shipibo people or like
32:22
the... the real wisdom keepers of this medicine
32:25
have and attached to that is these things called
32:28
dietas the master plant dietas and this is where
32:32
we're working with non -psychoactive plants and
32:35
we're interfacing with them on these like spiritual
32:37
and physical levels over many months and it's
32:41
like to some degree it's kind of like the beginning
32:43
of apprenticeship but that is the real ayahuasca
32:46
You know, like people go and have their experiences.
32:50
But like the dieta is like where the real healing
32:52
happens. And like my teacher, he even says to
32:54
people like, you know, they'll come and drink
32:57
50 times. And they're like, I don't feel like
33:00
I'm like making any more improvements. And it's
33:03
like, yeah, I mean, like I also can only take
33:05
you so far. Like you need to do the dietas. And
33:09
then on that land, that ranch, that's why I did
33:12
my first three -month dieta. And that's when
33:15
like a lot of stuff really started to click into
33:17
place where my understanding of nature vastly
33:22
expanded. Now when I look out at the world, like
33:26
I said, you know, nature is not the backdrop
33:29
anymore. They're like the living, breathing,
33:31
true ancestors and guides of this land. And like
33:37
the Lakota people say, they say like we the humans,
33:41
like we're the youngest. You know, like we come
33:44
here with our, with our like memories gone and
33:47
like, we need to learn. We're like babies, you
33:50
know, and like these, these plants and these
33:53
spirits, like they're the, the teachers who,
33:55
the level of consciousness that they're at and
33:58
the things that they can convey to us and help
34:01
us with is so far beyond what any therapist,
34:05
you know, any counselor or any podcast could
34:09
possibly convey. So that was like my first big
34:15
initiation. And I guess this was like a little
34:19
fun tidbit as well. When the first ceremony I
34:22
drank on that land and my visions just like fully
34:26
opened up, Ayahuasca showed me that she knew
34:30
that I would end up there. It was like written.
34:35
So when I was down in the jungle, she felt like
34:38
I wasn't ready yet. and didn't want to like start
34:41
showing me like all the magic so in that first
34:48
ceremony she was actually showing me the things
34:51
that she was working on on me in those ceremonies
34:55
too which is which is pretty amazing and then
34:59
so that was the first big big big breadcrumb
35:03
first big realignment in my life and then i went
35:07
and found a new teacher through the ceremonies
35:09
and uh he i apprenticed onto him for five years
35:15
and absolutely changed my life hard lessons you
35:21
know i was just like a young 22 year old he was
35:24
like a you know very intelligent A lot of experience,
35:30
40 -year -old man who took me under his wing
35:33
and, you know, taught me the ways of not only
35:35
medicine but entrepreneurship and how to be in
35:39
relation with your partner and with other people
35:43
and how to show up in a certain energy in this
35:46
world. You know, like really, to be honest, like
35:49
how to be a man, you know, versus be a boy. And
35:53
I moved in with him. And that's when the next
35:58
really big initiation begun, which was finding
36:04
the signal of Bitcoin. And there is so much noise
36:10
when it comes to Bitcoin. There's also so much
36:12
noise when it comes to plant medicines. And the
36:17
people who drink medicine and have all these
36:22
spiritual consciousness awakenings to the world,
36:27
They find it very difficult to align their life
36:33
with the things that they now know and they understand,
36:38
you know, where like they come to medicine, they
36:42
have these beautiful experiences, they create
36:44
these beautiful relationships with the other
36:45
people there, they do this cleaning, they do
36:47
this healing, and then they still go to their
36:50
nine to five that they hate every day. uh and
36:54
bitcoin is like the cure to that it's the thing
36:59
that creates harmony between the spirit and the
37:02
material world so i moved into this house there
37:06
was five of us in this house and the the bitcoin
37:13
started to kind of trickle in of what this thing
37:16
is and then very quickly it just completely got
37:21
away from us where the five of us would basically
37:24
listen to 12 hours of podcasts about Bitcoin
37:29
and audio books about Bitcoin and reading articles
37:33
about Bitcoin and finding all the Bitcoin Yodas
37:37
that have been in the space for like, you know,
37:40
at that point, like 10 years almost. And then
37:45
we'd like all gather at the dining table for
37:47
dinner. And it would just be like spitting all
37:50
the codes of how Bitcoin is this like great realignment
37:54
force in the world. It's this black hole that
37:56
will just swallow everything and basically be
38:01
the thing that sparks like the next level of
38:05
human consciousness to some degree. And I would
38:09
like to have lots of Bitcoin people come on and
38:12
speak on this podcast because like we can definitely
38:15
get into like the nitty gritty technical aspects
38:18
of it because there's so many ways that this
38:22
technology interacts with reality. It was really
38:31
the thing that allowed me to understand that
38:34
I could really live the life that I wanted. Exactly.
38:38
There was no longer an incoherence between what
38:43
I was experiencing in ceremony and how I would
38:45
live my life. And through COVID, I was just doubling
38:54
down, doubling down, doubling down on Bitcoin.
38:57
And then as soon as everything opened up again,
38:59
I moved to Costa Rica to basically live on a
39:02
Bitcoin standard. because it's just freedom at
39:08
the end of the day and if you know i know there's
39:11
a lot of people out there who have like a lot
39:13
of programming around bitcoin and cryptocurrency
39:15
and all this i'm not talking about cryptocurrency
39:17
anything that's not bitcoin is just trash it's
39:22
all just sad gambling that will go to zero um
39:28
and it's just it's proof of work that is that
39:32
is the magic So now I live in Costa Rica. I have
39:38
two cats that are named after the sanctuary of
39:41
the jaguars that I lived at. I have a fiance
39:43
who is a beautiful medicine woman and teacher
39:48
and healer. And I never could have experienced
39:54
or never thought that my life would end up the
39:58
way it did seven years ago. And I feel like it's
40:02
really just the beginning. for me so what has
40:07
all of this led to these initiations these these
40:12
changes uh in my being you know there was the
40:18
in the in the philosophy of the incas there is
40:25
four bodies there is the physical body there
40:29
is the emotional body there is the spiritual
40:32
body and there is the mind and one thing they
40:36
talk about is that the mind to some degree is
40:42
it shows the balance of the other three where
40:46
if the other three are out of whack in some kind
40:49
the mind will be out of whack and if the other
40:52
three are in balance the mind will just become
40:54
glass you know so we look at this journey and
41:00
like on my physical body You know, like growing
41:03
up, I had like all the childhood vaccines. I
41:07
ate all the shitty food. We were, we had a bottle
41:10
of Coca -Cola on the table at dinnertime, you
41:13
know, and that led to a lot of problems inside
41:18
of myself where, you know, my guts were all messed
41:23
up. I would have like eczema all over my legs,
41:27
just like generally getting sick. quite a lot
41:31
um i mean especially throughout like my university
41:35
years but that was also to do with the very heavy
41:38
drinking and partying and frat boy behavior of
41:41
that time which is now very gratefully behind
41:44
me and since walking this path and like reconnecting
41:50
with my spirit and reconnecting with the things
41:53
i want to achieve and reconnecting with the plant
41:56
medicines and the indigenous wisdom keepers so
42:00
much of it is healed you know like after my first
42:03
dieta i never had eczema again like it's deep
42:07
deep healing at a cellular level and it has nothing
42:11
to do with the understanding of how pharmaceuticals
42:17
work to some degree where it's like oh you take
42:19
this thing and this dose and this is the thing
42:22
that happens we're talking about like clearing
42:25
not only physical toxicity But now getting into
42:29
the emotional body, we're clearing trauma out
42:32
of the body. We're clearing the things that lock
42:34
us up and do not allow the energy to flow. So
42:39
an example of this is if you ever see a lion
42:44
take a gazelle on the Sahara, the gazelle only
42:49
has three options. It can either fight, it can
42:54
flight, or it can freeze. now if the lion has
42:59
already grabbed the gazelle it's freezing it's
43:01
not getting away so there's really no point to
43:03
struggle and it's not fighting but if the lion
43:07
loses its like focus for a second and the gazelle
43:11
does get away when it gets back to the herd it
43:17
will literally fall to the ground and have a
43:19
seizure and it's like the process of like energetically
43:24
releasing the tension that was created in that
43:30
experience but us as humans something happens
43:35
to us and then we just think about it you know
43:39
we don't know how to like physically process
43:42
and release the things that happen to us and
43:45
that's one of the beautiful things about ayahuasca
43:47
is you drink the medicine and you'll feel the
43:51
medicine like grab onto something you know it'll
43:55
start like twisting and scraping and clearing
43:59
this like energy and then you may even have start
44:02
having visions of like what this density is in
44:05
the body and then you will literally throw it
44:07
up you know and it's like you're releasing that
44:10
energy so we're getting the physical body cleaner
44:14
we're getting the emotional body cleaner and
44:17
the spiritual body it's like my my teacher he
44:20
says you know like the humans like we're a funny
44:25
We're a funny species. We celebrate by killing
44:28
ourselves. You know, it's like, oh, it's our
44:32
birthday. Like, let's let's go get fucked up.
44:35
Oh, someone's having a wedding because they're
44:38
getting married. Let's go get fucked up. You
44:42
know, it's like every time like the energy is
44:44
good and the consciousness and the vibes are
44:46
high. It's like we intentionally like spearhead
44:50
them into the ground because subconsciously.
44:55
we actually don't want to feel good for whatever
44:58
reason so when we're looking at the spiritual
45:03
body my teacher he says we're all just looking
45:07
for something sacred you know and like in this
45:12
life we're able to do a lot of things but like
45:17
the power of prayer which seems like from my
45:22
my upbringing is like an atheist to like actually
45:25
now my understanding of what the power of prayer
45:27
is is so different and it's like we're here to
45:30
pray and life is actually just like a refinement
45:36
of our prayer you know and that was a big piece
45:39
of me starting this podcast of i love having
45:43
conversations with people i love talking about
45:46
you know the medicine and bitcoin and freedom
45:48
and following my curiosity and this is a way
45:53
for me to share my prayer and to refine my prayer
45:57
you know and everyone's out here with like these
46:02
this framework is so different than what we're
46:04
taught like when we look at the way society and
46:09
the way the pharmaceutical injury uh industry
46:16
describes the mind and like depression and anxiety
46:20
and all of these like mental disorders it's like
46:24
it's this completely separate thing oh you just
46:27
like something's out of balance you know where
46:30
in reality it's like everything in your life
46:33
is out of balance and the mind is basically just
46:38
sending that feedback to you to let you know
46:41
that things are out of whack and that's the same
46:43
with like all symptoms you know like any time
46:46
a symptom arises in the body it's just something
46:48
is out of balance and it's actually there is
46:50
like the check engine light being like something
46:52
needs to change it's like the last thing you
46:54
want to do is like knock the check engine light
46:57
out and put some band -aid fix on top of it so
47:02
yeah living in costa rica walking the plant medicine
47:07
path living on a Bitcoin standard, being a digital
47:12
nomad, maximizing freedom in all aspects of my
47:16
life, and just here to have really good quality
47:20
conversations with people I find interesting
47:23
as somewhat of a beacon or a signal through the
47:28
noise. Because I know finding all these things
47:33
was so difficult for me. And it took such a long
47:38
time to piece everything together. But now I'm
47:41
really at a point where like the meaning in my
47:44
life and the purpose I feel in my life are like
47:47
sky high across the board. And if I can share
47:52
that with honestly anyone of just helping them
47:57
realign their life to what they wish they could
48:01
live, you know, or like even understand like
48:04
what they actually want. So many people are walking
48:07
around with no idea of what they even want as
48:10
an individual, you know, because everything has
48:13
always been what someone else has told them to
48:16
want. So yeah, lots of conversations with interesting
48:20
people and just finding a way to navigate into
48:25
this crazy future of, you know, insane government
48:31
overreach and AI. And the pharmaceutical industries
48:39
and the fiat system, just like everything that
48:45
makes it so hard just to be. So, yeah, this is
48:51
about future -proofing the bloodline. So I know
48:56
I would have loved this when I was 18, and I
48:59
hope I can, you know, change some lives along
49:03
the way. So this is it. Welcome to the Walking
49:07
with Jaguars podcast. I'm Matt Blanco. And let
49:11
the games begin. Till the next one. All my relations.